The “Broader Conspiracy”: What We Already Know About the White House Iraq Group
The “Broader Conspiracy”: What We Already Know About the White House Iraq Group
The WSJ reports that Patrick Fitzgerald’s investigation has zeroed in on the White House Iraq Group (WHIG):
Mr. Fitzgerald’s pursuit now suggests he might be investigating not a narrow case on the leaking of the agent’s name, but perhaps a broader conspiracy…Lawyers familiar with the investigation believe that at least part of the outcome likely hangs on the inner workings of what has been dubbed the White House Iraq Group. Formed in August 2002, the group, which included Messrs. Rove and Libby, worked on setting strategy for selling the war in Iraq to the public in the months leading up to the March 2003 invasion. The group likely would have played a significant role in responding to Mr. Wilson’s claims.
It sounds plausible, especially considering how much we already know about the involvements of members of WHIG:
Chief of Staff to Vice President Cheney Scooter Libby: Visited the CIA to press them for information about uranium sales to Iraq. Helped prepare CIA director George Tenet’s response to criticism about faulty intelligence included in the President’s State of the Union address. Spoke with Time reporter Matt Cooper and New York Times reporter Judith Miller about Valerie Wilson’s role at the CIA. Testified before the grand jury. [Link]
National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley: Received an email from Rove about his conversation with Matt Cooper. Was warned by the CIA not the cite uranium evidence. Helped prepare CIA director George Tenet’s response to criticism about faulty intelligence included in the President’s State of the Union address. Believed to have been questioned by special prosecutor. [Link]
Chief of Staff Andrew Card: Received 12-hour head start on Justice Department investigation. Was on Air Force one with State Department memo describing Valerie Wilson’s role at CIA. Initiated conversation between Tenet and Bush about investigation. Believed to have been questioned by special prosecutor. [Link]
Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove: Spoke with Time reporter Matt Cooper and columnist Robert Novak about Valerie Wilson’s role at the CIA. Helped prepare CIA director George Tenet’s response to criticism about faulty intelligence included in the President’s State of the Union address. Testified before the grand jury. [Link]
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice: In July 2003 received a briefing book that may have contained a State Department memo discussing Valerie Wilson’s role at the CIA. Appeared on Sunday shows to “protect Cheney by explaining that he had had nothing to do with sending Wilson to Niger, and dismiss the yellowcake issue.” Questioned by special prosecutor. [Link]
Senior Advisor Mary Matalin: Worked closely with Vice-President Cheney. Testified before grand jury. [Link]
Communications Director Dan Bartlett: Was on Air Force one with State Department memo describing Valerie Wilson’s role at CIA. Longstanding ties to Rove. Offered contradictory explanation of infamous “16 words.” [Link]
White House Aide Karen Hughes: Denied Rove’s involvement in leak. Helped draft State of the Union Addess with false uranium claim. Interviewed with Fitzgerald. [Link]
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Looks like more people might be in trouble than any of us previously thought.
October 12th, 2005 at 10:43 amHats off to Fitzgerld!!!! I hope he can indicted all of them. We need to get rit of all the cronies. They will try to spin this.
October 12th, 2005 at 10:47 amIf this is true and Fitzgerald has the nerve to drill down into this to seek truth and justice for all the crimes that he finds connected to the roots of the WHIG, and he fearlessly follows through and prosecutes, he is instantly catapulted into the ranks of Great American Heroes. No question. This dude must have bodyguards at this point.
October 12th, 2005 at 10:59 amThe Bush Crime Family will stage another “terrorist” attack before they let themselves get caught.
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October 12th, 2005 at 11:06 amNeD? NeD? Come down off that bridge railing brotha! It’s not to late to convert, just look at what Arianna’s done! These people deceived YOU too, man!
October 12th, 2005 at 11:06 am“why do you build me up,
baby just to bring me down…”
I don’t know about you guys but I’m keeping my hopes from soaring too high…
October 12th, 2005 at 11:08 amWe are deep into a Culture of Corruption, Lies and Cronyism, they all should be tried by ICC. We have these people running/ruining this country. Sickening.
October 12th, 2005 at 11:08 amDarth, I hear you buddy. How politically geeky are we that we’re this fired up about pending indictments of the Presidents chief political advisor and the Veep’s right-hand man. It may amount to nothing, but the anticipation has put butterflies in my stomach. Fitz, just DO IT already!
October 12th, 2005 at 11:11 am“The Iraq has WMD’s” ploy has been transparent from the the beginning. The prez’s lack of character has always been highly visible and thus, it was only a matter of time until his house of lying cards fell down. With Nixon, we have an example of what happens when ego overcomes character and honesty. It’s obvious that greed has overwhelmed this administration. Not just greed for money, but greed for unlimited and unquestioned power and authority. We’re lucky to have Fitzgerald who is flushing out the dishonesty even in the highest office of the country.
October 12th, 2005 at 11:18 amPortly – FYI, Arianna was NEVER one of us – she mouthed conservative platitudes to try to get her closeted gay husband elected – what a waste of $$$.
October 12th, 2005 at 11:19 am#4 Lets hope this does not happen. What a thought another TERRORIST ATTACK. That is very scary.
October 12th, 2005 at 11:21 am#3 – FYI
October 12th, 2005 at 11:23 amFitz is already in near-witness protection status after having brought down some mob figures and the Gov. of Illinois. He’s got the balls, lets hope he has the evidence.
Hopefully, Treason will never be a “pardonable offense” I am sick of these crooks being thrown out in disgrace, pardoned and cycled back in, only to become involved in another more grevious, more outrageous scheme
October 12th, 2005 at 11:26 amNice list of characters but you left out Ehrlichman, Haldeman, Mitche…oh, wait a sec…wrong scandal!
October 12th, 2005 at 11:27 amI share your reluctance to get too excited about the return of justice and truth to this country.
I remember the Iran-Contra Affair. Neither Reagan or Bush Sr. got any real dirt on themselves and Bush pardoned the ones that did.
October 12th, 2005 at 11:28 amFor your reading pleasure below are 200 reasons why Clinton should have been removed from office….
Ken Starr had 11 reasons why President Clinton should go, the Judiciary Committee added another 4, and now-so as to hold up our end-we suggest another 185, for a clean 200 total.
“I don’t recall” * Reappearing billing records * Federal toilet mandates * “Safe, legal, and rare” * Lip-biting * Joycelyn Elders * Jim Carville * “Mend it, don’t end it” * Dishonest defiance of Supreme Court on preferences * HRC: “There is no such thing as other people’s children” * Taking credit for repealing preferences * Paying nuclear blackmail to North Korea * HRC on health care and small business: “I can’t save every undercapitalized business in America” * Siccing the FBI on Billy Dale * Siccing the IRS on conservatives * Defending partial-birth abortion * Keeping D.C. kids trapped in rotten schools * Suing California for repealing preferences * The DNA speech * Screwing around with the Census * Screwing around with the interns * More rather than less, sooner rather than later * The Fleetwood Mac revival * Filegate * Tax hikes * “It might surprise you to know that I think I raised them [taxes] too much too” * Jaw-jutting * Phony privilege claims * Underhanded privilege claims * Soldiers and Sailors Act * Making lying to one’s diary safe, legal, and common * “The most ethical Administration in history” * Firing all the U.S. attorneys * Draft-dodging * Eliminating Beck enforcement upon taking office * ABM treaty * HRC’s explanation of $ 100,000 profit from Wall Street Journal reading (would that she read the editorial page as closely) * Hoarding children’s vaccines * Clinton’s explanation for the Lincoln bedroom: “Both of us had lost a parent and we just hadn’t kept in touch with people like we should have” * Making us long for Jimmy Carter * Making us long for George Bush * Making us long for Warren Harding * Scripting aides’ reaction to his confession speech * Exploiting church burnings * Attacking conservatives for Oklahoma City * Sidney Blumenthal * Joe Conason (sorry, same thing) * Boxers or briefs * Apologizing to whole continents * The tobacco jihad * The tobacco abuse * Ira Magaziner * Peanut-free zones on airplanes * Trying to take over health care * Violence Against Women Act * “Unspeakably vulgar pleasure” he takes in the office (Mark Helprin) * A Cabinet that looks like America * A Cabinet that looks like the bar scene in Star Wars (Don Imus) * Letting China dictate his travel schedule * Letting China fund his campaign * The small-breast defense * Telling Monica his phones are tapped by foreign governments and then proceeding * Jogging shorts * Pasty white thighs in jogging shorts * Scorched-earth policy * Cheating at golf * Mediscare * Screwing up traffic every time he visits NYC * John Travolta as foreign-policy advisor * John Travolta as President * Trailer-park trash * Making state troopers pimps * Making Betty Currie a pimp * Half-hearted salutes * The 60 Minutes interview * Kyoto treaty * Refusing to lift arms embargo on Bosnia * Sending troops instead * While receiving oral sex * Threatening Secret Service agents during Eleanor Mondale incident * Calling George Bush dishonest * The Hamptons * George Stephanopoulos * Haircut on the LAX runway * Renaissance Weekends * “For the children” * Hush money for Hubbell * Loathing the military * Giving Geraldo Rivera an exclusive interview in China * Using anti-mob laws against peaceful abortion protestors * “If everybody in the country had the character that my wife has, we’d be a better place to live” * Registering illegal immigrants as voters * Tax deductions for depreciated underwear * How they got depreciated * Sara Lister * Gutting the military * Timber “summits” * Strobe Talbott * Footnote 210 * Barbra Streisand * “Kiss it” * “Not appropriate” * “Misleading” * “It depends on how you define alone” * “That depends what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is” * Town meetings * Mike McCurry explaining Catholic theology to Cardinal O’Connor * McCurry * All-nighters * Toe-sucking advisors * Waco * Dancing on the beach with Hillary * Jane Doe #5 * Seances with Eleanor Roosevelt * Wanting to talk to Eleanor Roosevelt * Years of “I feel your pain” jokes * It Takes a Village * 24 hours a day of Greta Van Susteren * Walt Whitman revival * Suggesting a vote against David Dinkins would be racist * Coddling Saddam Hussein * Smearing Scott Ritter * Being a Rhodes scholar * The dress * “Legally accurate” * Smearing Paul McHale * Taking credit for balanced budget * Taking credit for economy * Wishing he had a challenge like WWII * Complaining about own leaks * Gore telling soldiers’ families their sons died “in the service of the United Nations” * Making every other sentence a double entendre * Monica loves him * Did we mention Fleetwood Mac? * “I haven’t been to a McDonald’s since I’ve been President.” * Al Gore * Susan Carpenter-McMillan * Friends of Bill * Paying people to volunteer * Multiple Ron Brown funerals * Easter Sunday 1996 * The politics of meaning * Astroturf * Telling MTV that this time he’d inhale * Having own VH1 special * Lani Guinier * Supposedly breaking the news to HRC re Monica: “You’re not going to believe this but . . .” * “Every day can’t be sunshine” * “Four years and $ 40 million” * Lanny Davis * Not drinking beer * Ostentatiously carrying Bible * Bringing Chelsea cross-country for photo ops * Asking Kathleen Willey to bring him chicken soup * Standing ovations at the UN * “Vast right-wing conspiracy” * Picking spiritual advisor with CNN contract * Mexican bailout * Government shutdowns * Banning ugly guns * Roger Clinton * Wanting to be President when he was 10 * “In the present tense, that is an accurate statement” * Naming dog “Buddy” * Claiming ignorance about Rwanda genocide * Salon * That picture of him shaking hands with JFK * Hugging everyone * Hillary * Having a First Cat * Psychobabble * Pizza delivery * The oh-so-morally-serious Paul Begala * He believes Anita Hill * He’s even made ministering a double entendre * “Don’t ask, don’t tell” * Smoked pot, lied about it, and supports the drug laws * Making French intellectuals relevant * Permanent “interim appointments” * “I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewinsky.” * There are no tanks in Mogadishu * Getting back to the business of the people * He thinks he’s black * “It’s the right thing to do”
October 12th, 2005 at 11:51 amFor more on the role of the Bush White House Iraq Study Group, see:
- “All the President’s Men – and Women.”
To access the WSJ piece on the probe and all the latest PlameGate news, briefings, timelines, statutes and other key documents, visit:
- The Rove/PlameGate Scandal Center.
October 12th, 2005 at 11:53 amWhat’s your point, Randy? Can you name 200 things Georgie has done to benefit this country — the WHOLE country?
October 12th, 2005 at 11:54 amClinton IS NOT THE PRESIDENT you nimrod! This country was paradise under Clinton, today’s disaster is was built and is wholly owned by the GOP….so suck it!
October 12th, 2005 at 12:03 pmWhere does our favorite SCOTUS nominee, Harriet Meirs fit in? Shouldn’t she be somewhere on the list of players of WHIG?
See was after all very involved with all aspects of the GWOT.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:04 pmNotice how the formation of the White House Iraq Group in August 2002 coincides nicely with Dick Cheney confidently declaring in late August 2002:
“Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.”
October 12th, 2005 at 12:08 pmYah! Randy, I asked for that, what good has Bush done for you and the american public, that didn’t take lives, last week. We would like your answer’s on that. How about it.?….Blessings
October 12th, 2005 at 12:10 pmRandy, I have to question your sanity, “Not drinking beer” is a viable reason to remove someone from office? What kind of moron are you? Oh yeah, you are a repukelican, that explains it all. I can only pray that one day you WAKE UP to reality!
October 12th, 2005 at 12:11 pmI’m constantly amazed by the rabid obsession the koolaid drinkin’ ditto heads have with the Clintons…of which Randy’s a prime example. Nonetheless, it’s sad (and telling) that in the midst of all this Plamegate stench, the Randy’s of the world have nothing better to add to the conversation than another pitiful, purely subjective Clinton list.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:27 pmThe WHIG’s maybe just maybe in trouble.Yesterday bush was shaking like a leaf either he was very scared or very angry but any Ms Valium came to his aid….
I want MY Country Back Damnit! Now! Hey Randy,guess what I would rather have a President in Office banging a chick than a Treasonous ba****rd like bush any day….You may want to ask the W.H. about a male working boy name Jeff Gannnon (not his real name).Who’s backside was he keeping warm…
October 12th, 2005 at 12:34 pmI agree Shanon, guess he went off to work (Randy). Be sure you check in with your right wing nut job’s to get us a list Randy. We are waiting with baited breath and delighted to be enlightened by you and your views….Blessings
October 12th, 2005 at 12:35 pmHay! Thot’s, what’s that about.? Sounds interesting. Can you post please……Blessings
October 12th, 2005 at 12:39 pmWow, Randy and the other freepers have so many petty and irrelevant reasons for hating Clinton – when by contrast we have so many REAL reasons to want bush gone. You know dimwitted freeper that quantity doesn’t trump quality don’t you? I think treason, torture, economic collapse, cronyism, corruption, failure of agencies that MURDER by their ineptitude alone trump any and ALL things you’ve written – and I’m just getting started. See the difference is that I could fill several pages with REAL crimes – what you wrote reads more like a kindergarten list of toddler fits…
October 12th, 2005 at 12:40 pmRandy, don’t forget there was and still is a huge Republican elephant constantly on Clinton’s back. That is partly the reason the country is the shape it is in. You got your “Contract on America” and we all are paying for it now. Yet, we are expected to roll over for your president and we did for a time, because 9/11 scared us. President Bush had an huge opportunity to do great things when we and the world was united after that horrible day. Look what he chose to do.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:54 pmWhat’s interesting is that they are all bringing up Clinton, particularly in reference to having wanted to see him thrown out of office. I have not heard any official news that impeachment of Bush is probable (I’m not saying it isn’t – though I’d prefer treason charges). They know how high up the stench goes, and they are fearful that their tin god is about to be tossed in the furnace: apply Rove tactic A; sling mud… sling lots of mud, even if its bad mud (….. ummm, the metaphor is falling apart here. Mud is mud).
October 12th, 2005 at 12:57 pmIt seems funny when the Repubs are in trouble they always bring Clinton up. Clinton has not been in office for 5 years. The Repubs tried to get him for eight years. This was totally disgusting. Now it will be their turn to go down.
October 12th, 2005 at 1:08 pm#25, #27, Sharon, how did you miss this? Jeff Gannon received WH Press pass for over a year, in order to softball the questions that the administration wanted asked. Too bad they didn’t run a background check, turns out JG is a “male escort” (whore), military drag preferred, with nasty photos on websites and all! America Blog has a nice page about it, and you can Google “Jeff Gannon” for more. We all know he’s doing someone there, my personal bet is Karl… It is so amusing!
October 12th, 2005 at 1:12 pmI hear Randy’s pretty cool. He can cut AND paste.
October 12th, 2005 at 1:15 pmTypo…we and the world were united…
We can have a good laugh at President Clinton and his indescretions, too. Don’t you miss all that news about blue dresses and cigars. At least nobody was killed or maimed. It turns out that all the money wasted on Whitewater is nothing compared to the debt being racked up now. Republicans got their impeachment trial and distracted the country from it’s real concerns. Let’s put President Bush and Vice President Cheney under oath and see if they lie.
October 12th, 2005 at 1:20 pmI can name over 100,000 examples of why Randy’s are trivial.
They just happen to be every Iraqi that has been killed in the name of their freedom.
So let me get this straight getting your schlong sucked is worse than killing over a 100,000 civiians plus almost 2000 soldiers for a fabricated lie.
PLZZZZZ – Randy get you head out your a**
October 12th, 2005 at 1:28 pmAhhhhh, Thank’s Sara, now I remember. Sorry about the short term memory loss. I need a score card. LOL….Blessings..P,S. Where’s Randy with our list…..LOL again
October 12th, 2005 at 1:29 pmForensic blogging by Judd Dread, well laid out, with fetching pics of the dramatis personae. Fitzgerald’s relentless pursuit of the truth is top shelf political drama. Junior has always displayed a cruel delight in verbally branding his factota. How prescient he was in selecting Karl’s sobriquet because presently, the stench around neocon central is overpowering. As the curtain is about to go up on ActII–The Indictments, one awaits the destiny of whomsoever of the WHIGs is a mendacious warmonger. Please stand-by for lots of Friendly Fire and Collateral Damage. Only his time, they won’t be able to hide the Body Count.
October 12th, 2005 at 1:40 pmCan’t we sent emails to Fitzgerald to show how many Americans want to see him going forward with his investigation and does not get intimitated by the right wing press attacks?
October 12th, 2005 at 1:47 pmTo get back to the topic, is anything Clinton may have done worse that outing a CIA official? It is my hope that Mr. Fitzgerald deals with this honestly and honorably. The country doesn’t need more of this political battling, but the arrogance and true intentions of this administation has got to be exposed to and understood by everyone. Even Randy. The spin has to be removed and the facts laid out for all of us. That is Mr. Fitzgerald’s duty and he should do it without fear.
October 12th, 2005 at 1:52 pmSince when has the left been so concerned about anything the CIA has done? Only when it fits their interests. When was the last time Plame was actually working as an operative? It doesn’t matter because the charges are more important than any crime that may or may not have been committed.
October 12th, 2005 at 2:25 pmLet’s see, it’s about thirteen years now that the Rethuglicans have been blaming Clinton for everything bad that has happened. Yes, he did lie about Monica –we all agree with that — but Randy’s silly list, and too-numerous-to-count (false)claims by the other trolls around here are just getting redundantly stupid.
October 12th, 2005 at 2:35 pmJust remember that we had 8 relatively peaceful and prosperous years sandwiched between two fiscally irresponsible administrations, and add to that the current administration is going down as the worst in American history.
There is nothing, I repeat, nothing, you can honestly claim that has improved since GW has been in office. Everything has gotten worse. Don’t say 9/11 changed everything — because he ignored its warnings, and he squandered the worldwide good will that followed and he made us hated, feared, and distrusted around the world with his ego-driven, self-centered illegal war. If I begin a list of his domestic policies that have been disastrous, my list would rival Randy’s.
So, freepers, KNOCK IT OFF! We know you can’t defend
GW so you are lashing out, but it’s tiresome now and too predictable.
“Since when has the left been so concerned about anything the CIA has done?”
Since they started overthrowing democracy in central america and selling drugs in LA to fund illegal wars in central america, and training, founding and funding AlQueda! That’s when I became interested in it.
” Only when it fits their interests. ”
That would best fit republicans. Unless it fits your personal ‘interests’, you have no compassion, empathy or concern for others. This is fashioned projection from the queens of projection – the reichwing chickenhawk closet cases like you!
“When was the last time Plame was actually working as an operative? ”
First of all you DOPE, every person and every network she was involved in was compromised – not just her ACTIVE duty. Just because you’re too stupid to inform yourself of your party’s treason, and your defense of it – don’t claim ignorance – it’s an overused reichwing defense!
“It doesn’t matter because the charges are more important than any crime that may or may not have been committed.”
Blah Blah Blah – and yet we see claims of ‘committed’ crimes your side makes daily that are nonsense against progressives. You guys are such loser hypocrits – you must be truly insane to be able to sleep at night.
“Comment by Randy ”
RudeDumby is more like it.
October 12th, 2005 at 2:38 pmSo, Randy, what do you think about your criminals now? Do you think they are all being smeared? Is this a vast conspiracy?
October 12th, 2005 at 3:22 pmI think Randy not only drinks the KoolAid, but he doesnt even mix it up first, he just dumps the powder right on his tongue for maximum saturation.
October 12th, 2005 at 3:25 pm#42 – I just want to re-emphasize one of your points because I think from the start the spinmeisters have distorted this important point of the issue: It is not just Plame who got outed. Anyone she had contact with, and their entire front operation were compromised. And you can be sure that every online terrorist in the world was checking up on anyone and anything that she might have been involved with to try to identify the spooks as soon as the story broke. Plus, she was still on the roster – she still had connections and was still a viable agent to go back into the field, regardless of her current or recent status. Now all of the taxpayers money that went to train her and to field her and the front and unnameable contacts and other operatives has gone to waste. This is treason.
October 12th, 2005 at 3:45 pmThese guys are all doped up on free republic mental suppressants. Their brain doesn’t function at the level necessary to engage ration and reason – they’re stuck exclusively in the flight or fight mentality of fear…
October 12th, 2005 at 3:46 pmWild And Wooly Wednesday
Seems like there’s a bit of “piling on” going on these days. The administration is getting pretty soundly blasted over the Harriet Miers deal. But, as always, that’s just the tip of the proverbial iceberg.
October 12th, 2005 at 4:04 pmWill Mary Matalin cut a flip deal to save her ass and marriage to The Ragin’ Cajun?
Stay tuned…
October 12th, 2005 at 4:12 pmLooks like the old Tom Flocco Bush/Cheney Indicted news story from a few months ago may actually turn out to be true.
Anyone remember that one?
October 12th, 2005 at 4:25 pmIS IT SAFE?
50% of Americans support impeachment of “Baby Doc” Bush for lying to Congress. He violated his oath of office by furthering the WHIG scheme to obtain Congressional consent for war based on false pretenses. For all we know now, he might have had personal knowledge of the fraudulent Niger yellowcake claims. Wilson told the State Department, and presumably “Kinda Sleezy” Rice knew about the forgery.
October 12th, 2005 at 6:06 pmBig D,
October 12th, 2005 at 6:06 pmI looked it up to refresh my memory — he may have been way ahead of everyone else. . . I hope he’s right.
BobbyG
Don’t kid yourself. Mary Matalin AND her husband are in the sh’t up to their hip boots – the Clinton’s are in it too now that they’ve been inducted into Skull & Bones with daddy Bush.
FOrget the Clintons – they are hasbeens who have sold out for the 100th time for power and money -
October 12th, 2005 at 7:40 pmTonight on MSNBC, Olberman interviewed Vanderhei from the WashPost. Speculation is that Fitzgerald is going after charges involving the Espionage Act which is apparently broader based than the hard-to-prove outing of a CIA operative. Lawyers for those interviewed by Fitz are leaking that this is where they think this is headed and that there WILL be indictments on espionage charges.
October 12th, 2005 at 8:12 pmIt’s possible that before Bush will be taken to court for impeachment proceedings, he will call for martial law and start quaranting the country for protection from bird flu. What will you do?
October 12th, 2005 at 9:36 pmMary Matalin, Karen Hughes, Dan Bartlett, and others were in this group as well. Can anyone get their hands on the other names?
October 12th, 2005 at 10:04 pmCheck right here at Think Progress or the Center for American Progress — they have a list of 22.
October 12th, 2005 at 10:08 pmcmw
“the Clinton’s are in it too now that they’ve been inducted into Skull & Bones with daddy Bush.
FOrget the Clintons – they are hasbeens who have sold out for the 100th time for power and money”
Not that I doubt the Clintons are corporate shills, but isn’t Skull and Bones a college group? Isn’t it only for men? Do you mean the Carlyle Group?
October 13th, 2005 at 11:47 amDoes anyone know of a site where before and after Bush statistics are listed. Things like GDP, GNP, deficit, poverty stats, etc.?
October 13th, 2005 at 2:43 pmTry this one.
http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/datazone_index
October 13th, 2005 at 4:30 pmHas anyone lese wondered if Judith Miller’s book on anthrax was also a propaganda piece for the White House? Sept 4th, 2001, the NY Times features a story about anthrax penned by her… on the night of September 11th, 2001, the White House starts taking Cipro, and 20 some days later US military grade anthrax starts appearing at media outlets. Is this a coincidence, or another plot yet to be discovered?
October 14th, 2005 at 12:20 amHas anyone thought that perhaps the long term goals of Skull & Bones and other Anglo-American secret societies has always been the destruction of the “full faith and credit” of the Unites States of America and it’s federal constitution.
Remember that Bush 43’s S&B nickname is “temporary”…
Whatever the outcome, the coming collapse of the global corporate economic system represents a fait accompli – making way for world government by way of economic, social and political chaos.
Either that, or a veritable popular political revolution occurs in America, restoring constitutional government and national banking under a new monetary system of co-operation among sovereign nation states committed to peaceful development.
Crisis brings opportunity, always. Now is the time to fight to the death to end the power of the aristocracy. The alternative is slavery.
October 14th, 2005 at 9:08 amWhile Rove and Libby are distracted, maybe we can get someone to find out where the Anthrax came from. The big hands aren’t holding the rocks down anymore, so someone needs to start looking under them and find the truth!
October 14th, 2005 at 9:10 amComment #62
Yes, yes people have and do think that could be a purpose of S&B and/or the other “scarcely known” groups tied to this Admin. It freaks me out to think along those lines mostly becuase it looks like they’re doing a GREAT job of it.
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October 18th, 2005 at 12:26 amAs a first-timer to the blogosphere, I am sure someone has already posted this thought somewhere, but as stakes in the whole Plamegate affair rise higher and higher, my question/comment is this: since Ashcroft was forced to recuse himself in this matter, isn’t there also a huge conflict of interest if not danger in having Fitzy report to Gonzales, who, though not so tied to Rove, is undoubtedly as pathologically loyal to Bush as is Harriet Miers?
I am hardly comfortable that one of Bush’s biatches is probably privy to to most of the facts in the case and therefore in the best possible position to mitigate negative outcomes or otherwise find a way out for his boss?
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