O’Reilly: “If Rove gets indicted, that could bring down the Bush administration.”
By on Oct 12th, 2005 at 11:43 am
O’Reilly: “If Rove gets indicted, that could bring down the Bush administration.”
You know things are getting bad when Bill O’Reilly is predicting the downfall of the Bush administration:
Transcript below:
O’REILLY: And then you have Libby, vice president’s chief of staff.
SAMMON: Right.
O’REILLY: And you have Rove, all right, both linked into these two reporters.
Now the two reporters are saying one thing to the grand jury. And Rove and Libby are saying another thing.
And now what looks like is Fitzgerald trying to figure out who’s telling the truth and who isn’t. And if Rove gets indicted, that could bring down the Bush administration, I think.
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Just because this idiot is saying something you want to hear doesn’t make it true.
October 12th, 2005 at 11:48 amJust like rats deserting a sinking ship…
October 12th, 2005 at 11:50 amthats because it’s not really Bush’s admin anyways. It’s the Cheney/Rove ticket, and has been for 5 years. You lose Rove, you smear an ailing Cheney, and POOF! The “Bush” Admin is GONE.
Does anyone else just smile at the thought of GW attempting to act in a presidential fashion without Rove to tell what to do/say? How comical this will be!
October 12th, 2005 at 11:50 amYeah, I am with you on the factual side bill d,
October 12th, 2005 at 11:51 ambut the change in tone and basic pessimism from the
winger talking heads shows a trend.
They seem to no longer follow “the master’s voice”.
Agree with #1; we’ve spent years trashing this moron, and now we’re actually going to give credit to something he says??? Puh-LEEEEZE….
O’Wrongly isn’t saying anything more than what the koolaid drinkers want to hear at this point — they’ve all lost patience with Georgie too, since he didn’t appoint one of their fellow fascistas to the SCOTUS. File this one away with the rest of the rantings of Faux News, Rush Drughead, Herr Dobson, and their ilk.
October 12th, 2005 at 11:52 amthere goes your job…o’wrongly…opps. Maybe you could get a job as rust limpdicks ’side kick?’
October 12th, 2005 at 11:52 amwhatever brings them down will be a blessing to the world
October 12th, 2005 at 11:52 amThe end is nigh for the Banana Republicans.
October 12th, 2005 at 11:54 amIt is quite fitting to see Karl Rove’s face on a Most Wanted poster.
October 12th, 2005 at 11:55 amThis is what’s frustrating about O’Shrill - he says the truth about 25% of the time, but the other 75% is utter nonsense - like is jihad against the ACLU.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:01 pmThese things always happened to closeted homsexuals who fight for family values crap. And by the way, what makes you think if Rove quits, or goes to jail, he’ll stop running things? He’s a power addict, just like Hiter.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:01 pmOctober 12th, 2005 at 12:02 pm
There’s a reason O’Riley has slipped way back in the ratings….he’s an idiot. The chances of anyone getting Rove indicted on the word of a “journalist” is about the same as Blow Job Bill getting indicted for rape on the word of one of his floozy’s.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:03 pmThe problem with your take on things #13 is that it’s not just their “word”. They have emails going back and forth, written notes from all sides and best of all… Karl Rove himself! He’s left things out and plain old lied to the Grand Jury and he’s gonna get caught!
October 12th, 2005 at 12:06 pm13: The Right, during the 90’s, said it wasn’t about the Blow Job (yeah right), it was about the lying. And now it is about Rove lying to the Grand Jury.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:08 pmI just keep envisioning a new “Bush led astray” strategy…The White House Rasputin (Rove) had the confidence of the president and was leading him to danger; Rove was the one with the contacts w/Norquist, Abramoff, Delay, Et al. all the while bush and the other not-guilty members of his WH say, “We’ve been trying for so long to get the gov’t out of Rove’s hands. We’re saved. Halleluyah!!”
October 12th, 2005 at 12:08 pmFinally, I wingnut comment that I can agree with:
“There’s a reason O’Riley has slipped way back in the ratings…”
Holy crap……I didn’t even have to budge to find that common ground. Things really are looking up.
So, I-R-I. Rove’s not going to get indicted huh? Hey, maybe you’re right, maybe it’ll be Cheney, which would make the impeachment that much less perilous.
All the wingers are using the “Clinton sucked” argument in light of the GOP’s downfall. You are so done!
October 12th, 2005 at 12:10 pmI have been kicked in the crotch by the fascists running this country so long I still have a hard time believing ANYONE in the Bush Crime Family will ever get caught. I don’t care if it’s on MSM, O’ Lielly , or a trusted Liberal sight like Raw Story or the Brad Blog.
SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!
October 12th, 2005 at 12:11 pmAs the olde yarde saith:
October 12th, 2005 at 12:12 pmEven a stoped clock is correct once every 12 hours.
Rove and Delay, in the same jail cell? Who do you think will be picking up the soap?
October 12th, 2005 at 12:15 pm“power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely”
…..says it all!!!!!!!
October 12th, 2005 at 12:17 pmThe White House Rasputin (Rove) had the confidence of the president and was leading him to danger; Rove was the one with the contacts w/Norquist, Abramoff, Delay, Et al. all the while bush and the other not-guilty members of his WH say, “We’ve been trying for so long to get the gov’t out of Rove’s hands.
That’s a losing strategy since it entails admitting Dubya was incapable of running things (something we know) and those in the adminstration who knew did nothing to protect the country. It’s a no confidence vote and, possibly, grounds for an unprecedented impeachment/recall election.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:18 pmThis is an attempt to wake up the bushco supporters. He’s not and has never been a “news” reporter, but simply a water carrier. This simply is another tactic by cheney/rove to alert the mud slingers to warm up their arms. It’s going to get nasty and Fitzgerald will be the target. There will be termemdous pressure applied to congress to get behind cheney/rove and to discredit Fitzgerald. Just wait, the fun has only begun. If your ethics include lying, cheating, stealing and your ego is the size of your bank account, one can expect that there will be a tremendous show of anger at the unwarranted attack upon such wonderful leaders who posses so much political capital that the world is bowing at their feet.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:20 pmDON”T FORGET GANNON CANNON!
October 12th, 2005 at 12:23 pmThey tried small timey politics on the national level and it was too much for them. Woe to them!
You can indict a sandwich?
A sandwich could also govern Texas!
October 12th, 2005 at 12:24 pmThere is a quote about Nixon Whitehouse insider John Erlichman, and this was when there were Democrats in the House and Senate.
“In a commentary published Sunday in the Sacramento Bee, former Republican congressman Pete McCloskey recalled a visit he paid years ago to John Ehrlichman, the late former domestic policy adviser to President Richard Nixon. Ehrlichman was in federal prison at the time, having been convicted of obstruction of justice, perjury and conspiracy for helping orchestrate the crimes of Watergate.
McCloskey said he asked Ehrlichman, an honorable World War II veteran and attorney, why he had lied for Nixon. Ehrlichman replied, “It took us three-and-a-half years to be corrupted by the power…”
-GSD
October 12th, 2005 at 12:26 pmIt’s a rough day in the viper pit when the only tail left to bite i the one next to you.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:33 pmJust watched Bush talk with the president of Poland now, Oh! My! God! Can’t he at least TRY and put an intelligent look on for the American people and the rest of the world?
October 12th, 2005 at 12:36 pmHe is totally embarrassing.
Is it just me or is there a real negative ’swing’ of public support showing on his face lately?
I’m not gonna support O’Liely even if what he says is something I agree with.
Really, like I’m going to pay any attention to what Rupert Murdoch thinks.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:37 pmJohn, you are so right, it’s the same look he was wearing on the morning of 9/11/01.
Deer…..in….the….headlights. Uh, don’t think pops and the James the Bakeman will be able to bail me outta this one.
I’d like to start a nervous breakdown pool. I’m going with November 15th. Anybody in?
October 12th, 2005 at 12:39 pmI agree with (23). This is just a way that O’Reilly is trying to scare everybody — “impending doom!!!” In other words, you better get scared, the ENTIRE republican administration is UNDER ATTACK! They everybody starts to demonize the independent prosecutor. Blah blah blah. It’s getting so boring and predictable.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:41 pmThis adminstration should all be fired, if for nothing else, for not acommplishing anything. What are they being paid for? If Bushies want to run us like a corporation, they would of succeeded only by bankrupting us. And the price? It will only begin to come about half way through the next admistration. So they can all blame it on them.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:45 pmIf we can get them out early, it will be that much sooner we can get back on track.
So, I-R-I. Rove’s not going to get indicted huh? Hey, maybe you’re right, maybe it’ll be Cheney, which would make the impeachment that much less perilous.
All the wingers are using the “Clinton sucked†argument in light of the GOP’s downfall. You are so done!
Comment by Jay
You don’t get it B-jay. The Establishment isn’t going to let one of their own fall unless it’s them that do the pushing. Bill and Hillary got off Scot free on everything from stealing the White House silver to conspiracy to murder to out and out treason as regards the Red Chinese, WTF? Sandy Berger got caught red handed stealing top secret documents and the list on both sides goes on and on. This is all drama to make you left wing kooks think somebody is on your side and on the job. Buy it if you want it, I’ll pass because I’ve learned what you see isn’t what is really happening.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:46 pmpaul,
Have you noticed that ove rthe last week or so all of the major mainstream media outlets (CNN, ABCNews, CBS) have been doing stories on the terror threats again. ABC last night teased a story on something like: How close is Al Qaeda to obtaining nuclear weapons?
It’s so transparent. They are all in this together, in the wake of Bush’s massive loss of support, to keep the citizenry scared. I guess it worked before the election…but no longer. ABCNews……right there with Faux News. Liberal media….bahahahaha
October 12th, 2005 at 12:47 pmSo they can all blame it on them.
If we can get them out early, it will be that much sooner we can get back on track.
Comment by Yo Mamma
You have a better memory than me. I can’t remember when we’ve been “on track”.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:47 pmYou have to give O’Reilly credit for making an honest assessment. I think the key issue is the fact that Fitzgerald is no Ronnie Earle. He has unimpeachable credentials and is going to be virtually impossible for the GOP to smear.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:48 pm#34,
And I too have learned that what YOU see isn’t really what’s happening. Best of luck buddy!
October 12th, 2005 at 12:50 pmHold on to your hats, the next 9/11 distraction will be served up very soon, just a few U.S. citys hit with large bombs with just enough DU to make the meters go off. Headline “AL Quida nukes U.S.Citys, martial law declared throughout the nation.”
October 12th, 2005 at 12:50 pmWelcome to room 101.
Bill has been buying too many bottles of Irish whiskey.
That rye has ergot in it here and there, and that makes you hallucinate.
There won’t be much left of the Republicans after all is said and then done.
there they were, gone.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:50 pmSurpluses, 2% unemployment during Clinton years to start.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:52 pmWe can only hope!
October 12th, 2005 at 12:53 pmThe mental image I get, when I imagine Chimpy trying to be the President on his own, is a comedic crippler.
Then I realized, “Hey, that’s MY COUNTRY he’s trying to run !”
My laughter quickly faded away.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:56 pmThe key to Bush hitting the skids is when Rove loses his security clearance, and that’s when he gets indicted. Without a security clearance, Rove is cut off from Bush. What we’d also expect to see are some pretty tenacious watchdogs just waiting for Bush or anyone else to leak classified information to a person, such as Rove, who hasn’t the clearance to hear it, and another indictment will be in the works.
We can’t say, just yet, whether Rove will get what he deserves. But it’s getting close to that time.
October 12th, 2005 at 12:57 pmI would like to know when you are unemployed do they just count the people that are getting unemployment benefits?
October 12th, 2005 at 12:59 pmHey NeD! Get a new IP? That I-R-I handle is really catchy…are you all stocked up on koolaid?? You’re gonna need it pal…
October 12th, 2005 at 1:01 pmAnd as Rove is led away, you can tell us all “what you see isn’t what is really happening”.
October 12th, 2005 at 1:01 pmFunny that a troll is even trying to do pathetic damage control. It’s over razor lips, we smell your rot!
“Bill and Hillary got off Scot free on everything from stealing the White House silver to conspiracy to murder to out and out treason as regards the Red Chinese”
You must have a butt plug inserted allowing you to throw up such crap! Troll, it’s about your GOP ROT, not Bill and Hillary. Your shrill girl crying makes us laugh, go home and ponder your future.
October 12th, 2005 at 1:05 pm#44 - (partial answer: someone with more details will hopefully post): they track unemployment in a couple of ways. When figuring the “unemployment rate” they do not count those who are unemployed but not receiving benefits (I suppose under the assumption that you “must be choosing to be unemployed”: an opinion I have encountered in EVERY (EVERY) republican I have ever spoken to face to face), though there may be a small number of unemployed but receiving no benefits people who fall into some odd category who are counted. Sorry. Best I can do.
October 12th, 2005 at 1:11 pmThe biggest threat to this Administration is if Bush and Cheney are labelled by the Special Prosecutor as unindicted co-conspirators, with indictments of conspiracy levelled against a slew of others, including Libby and Rove.
How can the White House defend its high moral ground if this happens?
October 12th, 2005 at 1:17 pmBill O’Reily is a moroon and no one should listen to what he has to say. The Bush Administration will be just fine even if Rove is indicted. The only danger is if they find that there was a attempt to cover up what happened and it goes to the President’s office. Remember Scott McClellan came out and said, ‘I talked to Scooter Libby and Rover and they denied having anthing to do with this’ or words to that effect.
This is where I see the danger for the administration having more than just political trouble. If Fitzgerald finds that they tried to cover this whole thing up there could be another watergate. I don’t know if we have to worry about it going that far. But I know I’d be worried if my brain were being indicted. http://www.plainnews.blogspot.com
October 12th, 2005 at 1:19 pm#48 I did not choose to be unemployed. My company outsouce our work to another company in the city. I went with this other company but I had to drive 60 miles a day. Needless to say I am no longer there. IN the first place this company did not know what they were doing. There was no buses that I could take either.
October 12th, 2005 at 1:20 pmI just hope all of bush’s deck fall down, and get indicted.
October 12th, 2005 at 1:25 pmYou guys give ROVE too much credit. Bush didn’t win in 2000, and he squeaked by questionably in 2004. The Texas governor races were the dirtiest in American history. The only credit he deserves is for creating the best, well oiled, and finey tuned smear machine ever created. And only a closeted gay man is capable of that. Angry his Dad, or who he thought was his Dad, left home when he was 12, right after mother announced he wasn’t the father of little Karl. Then mom kills herself.
October 12th, 2005 at 1:31 pmWouldn’t that make you so mad? So mad you wanted to rip up little buttholes for the rest of your life? Taking out all that anger toward your mom. HA…Ha,Ha,Ha…I can feel now, even…now, yes…,yes…yes…
Karl will do fine in prison.
I feel sorry for conservatrolls. Their fragile egos force them to be here and post the most ridicuous shit. It’s like they know the absence of their presencence and ridiculous ravings here will be construed as surrender and defeat. They will never. They won’t be taken prisoner. They won’t defect or convert. They will die fighting for a lost cause on the wrong side. Good. Natural selection at work. Stupid people are a drag on us all.
October 12th, 2005 at 1:34 pm25 years ago, i worked as a dispatch office manager for an oilfield servicing company. each employee was listed on a status board…everyone was on “call” 24/7, and their phone # was listed next to their name. when we fired someone, i would change their phone # to GMF-GONE (gone mother fu@ker, gone).
it looks like rove and libby are about to get new phone numbers…
October 12th, 2005 at 1:37 pmBill is not just a water-carrier for the Rs, but also (and more importantly) a water-carrier for Rupert Murdoch. And what Murdoch wants is ratings. Bill’s ratings have slipped, and Murdoch will lose money if that happens. So he wants Bill to get attention, and this is a really good way to do it. -OR- This is a way to get the freepers used to the idea that the Bush administration really is going down, so when the indictments are handed out (for espionage, conspiracy, perjury, oh frabjus day!)they can begin preparing the ground for the Guliani administration. Or martial law.
October 12th, 2005 at 1:38 pmthe right wingerscame to power on the PHONY premise of bringing decency back to government,however the present administration makes ALL previous administration indescretions as small potatoes/ They are the most immoral dishonest people ever to set foot in the halls of government. The morality folks have NO MORALS/ liars cheaters and thieves oh my goerge laura the whole bunch
October 12th, 2005 at 1:42 pmFile that under “W” for “We can only hope.”
October 12th, 2005 at 1:43 pmYou guys got it all wrong! It was my boss’s fault, everything. And he said, “Don’t worry I don’t have to swallow.”
October 12th, 2005 at 1:44 pmIt’s obvious even to O’Reilly that a puppet cannot exist without the puppeteer.
October 12th, 2005 at 1:54 pmIt may not be worth much, since he’s a thug and a moron, but it’s a lovely sign of despair among the right wingers.
October 12th, 2005 at 1:54 pmFow News is already looking at 2006 and 2008. They are trying to distance the Republican party and candidates from the Bush administration so they can start with a clean slate. McCain will run as the anti-Bush in 2008. Fox News will continue to tar Dems as “extremists” and define Republicans as responsible moderates who can’t be blamed for the excesses of Bush and Company.
October 12th, 2005 at 2:04 pmDo you realize how bad it’s gotten in the House of GOP?
Dr. Phil to Intervene in Troubled Republican Family
Program to air Sunday night on Fox
EWM- (October 12, 2005) Pop psychology guru Dr. Phil McGraw will conduct a live intervention Sunday night on the Fox Network in an attempt to pacify the feuding Republican Party. The program was hastily announced this morning as party leaders conceded that the internecine warfare over Supreme Court nominees, Iraq policy, corruption, out of control spending and general incompetence was about to go nuclear.
“These guys need more than a check-up from the neck-up. I’m going to have to do a full cranial colonic. I mean they got more troubles than a trailer park,†said Dr. Phil.
Sensing a complete meltdown in Republican ranks, First Lady Laura Bush secretly brought Dr. Phil to the White House Monday night to meet with select Republicans and evaluate the situation. It went badly.
“Dick Cheney called Ann Coulter a ’skank’ and she responded by kicking him in the testicles,†said Dr. Phil. “Then Bill Bennett jumped out of his chair and started goose-stepping around the room. Before I could get that settled down, an altercation broke out between Karl Rove and Scooter Libby over ‘who leaked first.’ Actually, that was kind of amusing because they both fight like girls,†added Dr. Phil….
read article
October 12th, 2005 at 2:06 pmSpeaking of “failure”, go to google and enter that word. The response will bring a smile.
October 12th, 2005 at 2:06 pmAre these guys jumping ship? They need to cling on and drown with the rest of them!
October 12th, 2005 at 2:07 pmIt is interesting that some up top (#1 and #5) argue that Think Progress normally discredits Bill O’Reilly and other talkshow conservatives, but now they take credit to his words since they speak negatively about Bush.
Actually, all they said was “You know things are getting bad when Bill O’Reilly is predicting the downfall of the Bush administration.”
They’re just reporting on what he said. No one is putting undue attention to his words. Are they not valid to report on?
October 12th, 2005 at 2:29 pmBill cares for no one but himself and nothing but his ratings, so I take what he says on any topic with a grain of salt. He has made a living by appearing as righteous as possible in his views. At this point the administration’s actions as they relate to a number of topics (including this one) are indefensible. Why go down with the ship? He simply sides with public opinion at this point and by giving his “opinion” a sensationalist edge like this he gives viewers a reason to tune in. He will realign himself with them once they regain their stranglehold on American popular opinion.
October 12th, 2005 at 2:37 pm#66: All I am saying is why give anything the man says any credence? Bringing attention to him in whatever way for whatever reason is, in my opinion, counterproductive.
October 12th, 2005 at 2:39 pmO’Reilly’s words are a window into the rightwing propaganda machines strategy. I would be shocked if other wingnut pundits didn’t start taking a similar stance (except Limbaugh and Hannity, those clowns will go down with the ship). I agree with those that speculate that the Murdocheviks are preparing for the ineviatble by distancing themselves from the defunct Bush administration now. I also agree that Loofah Bill is getting desperate for ratings and he’s reading the polls. 37% means a whole lot of uber-patriots have gone off the reservation….may be time to hedge your bets.
October 12th, 2005 at 2:41 pmThis is just old blow-hard Bill yapping his big bazoo again. He wants to be able to say “I knew it” “I predicted it” and maintain his macho-delusional self that he is smarter and a better “journalist” than anyone else.
October 12th, 2005 at 2:42 pmHe is far more concerned with his own ass than he is with the Bushies, the administration, the government or the country. When he says he is looking out for you — that is him, looking into the mirror.
He is a revolting, perverted, egotistical, lying, obnoxious jerk.
When democrats lie, it’s about an open fly.
When republicans lie, innocent people die.
That’s the hard code reality of the country we live in!
October 12th, 2005 at 2:43 pmPlan and simple: f*** whatever this clown says,period.
October 12th, 2005 at 2:45 pmo’wrongly, let’s call him what he really is: RIGHT WING EXSTREAMIST. If o’wrongly said it…it’s B.S. The ship is sinking and he is trying save his job.
October 12th, 2005 at 2:54 pmRove will not be indicted. Frist will be cleared. Tom DeLay is already in the process of handing Ronnie Earle his head for lunch. Golly, what will all the left wing fever swamp critters do for fun after that?
October 12th, 2005 at 2:55 pmBSR,
We’ll smile at the fact Neocons will live like registered sex offenders.
October 12th, 2005 at 3:00 pmI hope you have the balls to pay a visit next month, BSR.
October 12th, 2005 at 3:01 pm“Rove will not be indicted. Frist will be cleared. Tom DeLay is already in the process of handing Ronnie Earle his head for lunch. Golly, what will all the left wing fever swamp critters do for fun after that?”
Your party commits so many crimes and so much corruption you forget we have years worth of crap to swarm you with. See the difference between republicans and democrats is that republicans commit REAL crimes. All it takes is one prosecutor and one judge who are both honest and you crumble like a miserable house of cards… And from where I’m sitting the house is shaking! Keep dreaming stupid boy - your time will come!
As for the Earle issue - it’s a stunt. Grand Jury process is ’secret’, he has no rights to even request the information he did under state law. His attorney is just making hay for the press and giving fake red meat to the morons like you who don’t know right from wrong or legal from illegal. It worked didn’t it? You sure are a stupid bag of crap…
October 12th, 2005 at 3:04 pmYeah BSR, and the American people will shower you with candy and flowers as you get carted away in a straightjacket, screaming “Bill Clinton is responsible….it’s aaaaallllllll Clinton’s fault!”.
:)
October 12th, 2005 at 3:11 pmBSR does not believe that. He is just lonely and pathetic. You would have to have an IQ of well under 100 to actually believe these liars. I suppose it would just TOO MUCH to admit that you voted for and are aligned with CRIMINALS.
Nice picks trolls. Why do you hate America?
October 12th, 2005 at 3:12 pmI used to watch (and yell at) O’Reilly every day during lunch when I had the time. He is not as loyal to the GOP as he is to conservatism, and has been known from time to time to take shots at this administration.
Bush’s problem is he and his administration have been revealed to the conservatives that they have used as neo-cons, only interested in power, not the conservative ideals (be what they may). And I for one am going to laugh all the way to the blue tide that will be 2006. We now have the enforcer and the brain behind this administration under investigation with just the right timing. Side note - notice how as soon as DeLay was distracted, the GOP message fell apart? Not in 5 years has there been so much dissent among the ranks.
Secondly, Fitzgerald will not be attacked. You can tell because the smear-machine makes its choice of targets very early so as to assure nothing but mud all over it’s enemies, and so far not one mudball that I have seen has been slung in his direction.
October 12th, 2005 at 3:14 pm#78 The Earle issue: You know, they actually probably believed that their illegal demand could be met. Remember that these lunatics (and they are a discredit to lunatics the world over, they are so foul)have been lying and cheating to cover their illegal activities for so long that they actually believe their own crap now. Who was it (actual question) who fairly recently said something to the effect of “We MAKE reality.” ?
October 12th, 2005 at 3:19 pmSmearing is the only tactic these jerks know. It is painfully obvious though. Whenever we find out about some new crime the smear machine goes into overtime.
A thief always thinks others are stealing from them. This is classic among criminals - no honor among theives. Paranoid criminals the lot of them.
October 12th, 2005 at 3:20 pmmary poppin #51 - I did not say you did.
October 12th, 2005 at 3:23 pm#78 The Earle issue:
Attacking Earle is just an effort to win in the courtroom of public opion
October 12th, 2005 at 3:23 pmThese are all last ditch efforts. At this point, they have nothing to loose. HA!
October 12th, 2005 at 3:24 pmDon’t look for an easy exit by anyone in the Whitehouse. As you can see by Tom Delay’s continued role in controlling the republicans in congress, you cannot pry power from the hands of corruption. Unless there is a national outcry such as during the Vietnam War, these power-consuming brokers will hang on for a very long time, especially with the complicit corporate media. So, don’t think this is going to be easy, no matter how many indictments are handed down. So let’s just calm down and FOCUS on what needs to be done to finish the job that Fitzgerald will have started.
TrueBleu
October 12th, 2005 at 3:32 pmSan Diego, CA
Mark the house Bush “worked” on, it’ll fall down, just like his administration and the /Republican party. As far as all their crooked dealings; Karma.
October 12th, 2005 at 3:33 pmThe ones we REALLY need to bring down are O’Reilly and his ilk.
It’s because of O’Rielly, Hannity, Limbaugh, Murdoch, and the rest of that the cons that we got stuck with criminals like Bush in the first place.
October 12th, 2005 at 3:38 pmAll of a sudden Mr. OReilly wants to sound like an unbiased commentator who calls it like he sees it and plays no favorites. I don’t buy it Mr. O’Reilly and I think you are as slimy as Rove and Company. You ranted and raved against Bill Clinton’s every move and lied shamelessly in an attempt to bring him down. Your boss, Rupert Murdoch, is like the Joseph Goebbels of this current Reich. You and your colleagues at Fox championed the cause of the Bush presidency and all its sordid works. You have as much of our soldiers blood on your hands as the rest of the Republican party. I hope Divine Justice brings as much heartache and grief on you as your President has brought down upon the families of our fallen soldiers.
October 12th, 2005 at 3:55 pmBravo Edward, excellent!
October 12th, 2005 at 4:00 pmIt is true that we need to bring down OReilly,Hannity, and Limbaugh etc. They are why we have these scumbags in power.
October 12th, 2005 at 4:02 pmWild And Wooly Wednesday
Seems like there’s a bit of “piling on” going on these days. The administration is getting pretty soundly blasted over the Harriet Miers deal. But, as always, that’s just the tip of the proverbial iceberg.
October 12th, 2005 at 4:02 pmOf course removing O’Reilly, Hannity, and Limbaugh would be sweet….but they are only the most prominent front men for a massive empire of rightwing think tanks, PR firms, conservative and religious institutions and even universities. There will be no shortage of similarly slimy replacements. They wait in the wings for their own shot at perfecting the dissemination of rightwing propaganda.
October 12th, 2005 at 4:11 pm#44 All you need to know about how the unemployment rate is calculated, right here: http://www.bls.gov/cps/cps_htgm.htm
October 12th, 2005 at 4:24 pmDon’t count your chickens before they’ve hatched.
The fat lady ain’t sung yet.
Don’t start partying until the indictments are in.
Then, by all means…
October 12th, 2005 at 4:28 pmMaybe O’Reilly thinks there is some chance of himself being appointed President by the new Supreme Court of Umurka.
Do we need long expensive campaigns anymore and hanging chads anymore? Not really. Justice Princess Harriet The Hottie Mierweinereater can just pick someone next time. But, she’d probably pick Jerry “God Save Me From The Buffet!” Falwell way before O’Reilly.
October 12th, 2005 at 4:37 pmO’Reilly sees the writing on the wall…they all do at this point.
He is looking out for himself and his future career, which he has been at its most based on shilling for the Bush administration.
He is just afraid when they are done, so is he-his credibility is ZERO…..
October 12th, 2005 at 4:45 pmThe first comment, “Just because this idiot is saying something you want to hear doesn’t make it true,” has the ring of spin to it (or is it the other way around?). We often wonder just how many Repug trolls are on the dole, when he hear such conventional wisdom. (We heard such controlled troll desperation every day during Watergate, poseurs clutching at any straw.) And the spin control of that comment cagily glosses over the more significant aspect of what O’Reilly has said. Trust me, I don’t turn to O’Reilly for my prognostication, even in reverse. I give Punxtahawney Phil more credit for getting things right. Intellectually, I mean. But, like dogs whining, or acting in a spirit of true canine bizarrerie before an earthquake, we merely note that O’Reilly’s ears have pricked up oddly, in like prick.
October 12th, 2005 at 5:19 pmEven as a false alarm, such natural wonders have to make us, well, wonder.
“Do not boast until the armor is off.”
October 12th, 2005 at 5:21 pm8 months when the fromarching starts we can take the armor off, not now.
Liberals calling for spending restraint, while “conservatives” vomit money right and left to anyone who asks, utterly emptying the treasury. Liberals also calling for less government, while cons have expanded it 30% since 2001.
And conservatives screaming kool-aid-soaked conspiracy theories about the Clintons and a vast plot to smear the holy name of Their Lords Bush, Cheney and Rove.
Times have changed, haven’t they.
October 12th, 2005 at 5:22 pmIt’s all so fantastically theatrical. The Rupublicans use every means neccessary, legal and less so, to defeat and strangle the Democrat party in the last five years, succeed, and then continue governing with the same tactics, which become the seeds of destruction that will eventually destroy their own administration. I’ve been a Burned Out Paranoid Democrat for a while now, how ironic to feel vindicated with all the indictments and investigations. More thoughts at: http://www.burnedoutparanoiddemocrat.blogspot.com
October 12th, 2005 at 5:22 pmThe response to Katrina was an example of Bush on his own. Rove was in the hospital with kidney stones, the VP was on vacation, and most of the PR staff was in Greece for a wedding. Bush doesn’t watch the news or read newspapers so he had no idea what was going on until he watched a DVD a brighter member of his staff prepared.
Really like the rumours that Cheney might be indicted or Bush and Cheney named as unindicted co-conspirators.
October 12th, 2005 at 5:26 pmLooks who’s serving koolaid tonight! She will be screaming ‘FOUL’ and pouring it in little paper cups for all. O’Billy may try and distance himself from this GAWD awful mess but it would take heavu equipment to remove this lady from this administation’s privates.
October 12th, 2005 at 5:37 pmOctober 12, 2005, 4:17 PM
COULTER ON HANNITY AND COLMES TONIGHT — FOX NEWS 9PM -
October 12, 2005, 4:17 PM
COULTER ON THE BIG SHOW WITH JOHN GIBSON - WED, OCT 12, FOX NEWS 5PM -
October 12, 2005, 12:52 PM
notice how the flu prediction is taking up the front page news!? how conveinent! rove will never see jail time, as sad as that is! but the shrub running the country without his brain, that could be even more frightening!
October 12th, 2005 at 5:42 pmdear burned out, seems the blog if too! i can’t get it to stop scrolling long enough to read the page! yikes, they are on to you!
October 12th, 2005 at 5:45 pm>>He’s a power addict, just like Hiter.
October 12th, 2005 at 5:51 pmwho’s Hitter? Did I miss something? I think I missed something.
Booble
October 12th, 2005 at 5:52 pm“Power Corrupts! Power to the people!”
If Karl (Chubby Butt) Rove, I. (indicted) Lewis Libby and Dick(head) Cheney or any combination of the above are convicted and subsequently have to leave office you can bet that the next state of the union address by George Bush will be the most comical undertaking of any president in American history! It will also probably garner the highest Nielson ratings ever of a presidential address of any kind since Nixon’s resignation. He will be so befuddled he (to quote Dolly Parton) won’t know whether to scratch his watch or wind his butt!
October 12th, 2005 at 5:58 pmO’Scumbag knows he’ll need another bunch of criminals to work for when the administration crumbles. I suggest he send a resume to Dobson or someone like that. There will always be freaks and criminals that need his service.
October 12th, 2005 at 6:24 pmO’Reilly: “If Rove gets indicted, that could bring down the Bush administration.â€
“Could bring down the Bush administration?” What a cluelless idiot that man is. This administration was down on it’s knees giving head in the ova office a month ago. We a know where that leads, don’t we?
October 12th, 2005 at 6:29 pm[…] Former President Bill Clinton has dropped by to bring this matter to our attention… and say a few words about it. President Clinton woud like to thank Grouchy for this opportunity to vent. O’Reilly: “If Rove gets indicted, that could bring down the Bush administration.†[…]
October 12th, 2005 at 6:38 pmWhen this administration goes down like the greasy, dog-eared, marked House of Cards that it is, it’ll be real interesting to see to what lengths assclowns like O’Reilly will distance themselves from the administration that they’ve been championing for five years now.
This will make Monicagate look like a sleazy blowjob in comparison.
October 12th, 2005 at 6:59 pmBill D-
Just because I something you don’t agree with
doesn’t make it untrue.
You are as clever as retarded child.
Bill O’
October 12th, 2005 at 7:26 pmWhen thieves fall out
October 12th, 2005 at 7:31 pmThey attack each other
Stand back and watch
As they get that mother f”ker
Don’t get too excited because you’re getting played. They all know there’s no way to save Bush but that doesn’t mean they aren’t quite intent on saving their own asses. All this nonsense about Miers and here problems with the right wing are just that - nonsense. They want to push her aside so they can install a real wingnut. Just watch. Clearly, with Bush on the ropes, it’s also bye bye Karl.
October 12th, 2005 at 7:46 pmpurvis
the secret behind the miers nomination is simple -
Bush is positioning her so when he’s impeached she will be there, along with Roberts, to watch his back
That’s it in a nutshell.
The grand conspiracy now is that every man for himself - Bush is covering his ass -simple
October 12th, 2005 at 7:51 pmWhy isn’t ThinkProgress talking about BUsh’s move to overturn the Posse Comitatus act. I was startled when last week Bush talked briefly during his bird flu speech that it might be necessary to quarantine whole sections of the United States. It sounded to me like a step towards military control of the country. If you want to really be worried, worry about this –
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/1012-29.htm
“Bush laid the groundwork for his assault on Posse Comitatus on September 26, when he explained his decision to unleash the 82nd Airborne upon Hurricane Katrina-devastated New Orleans: “I want there to be a robust discussion about the best way for the federal government, in certain extreme circumstances, to be able to rally assets for the good of the people.†The Louisiana National Guard, meanwhile, was stuck in Iraq.
“The translation of this is martial law in the United States,†said Dr. Irwin Redlener, associate dean of Columbia University’s School of Public Health and director of its National Center for Disaster Preparedness.
October 12th, 2005 at 8:19 pmRove pulled as keynote speaker for Federalist Society Convention. See more at http://www.advanceindiana.blogspot.com.
October 12th, 2005 at 9:06 pmHas Rove fled the country? Any sitings pf him in the past few days? There have been lots of missed appearances. Could he be on a flight to ? Saudi Arabia? Paraguay? China?
October 12th, 2005 at 9:39 pmThis is all a shell game,
The centuries-old “power elite” - Rothschilds, Royal lineages, banking cartel etc are running this whole game towards one world, fascist, police-state government. Shrub is retarded and could not think his way out of a wet paper bag. Do you think the financial plutocracy would ever allow the serfs to truly influence anything? Would they EVER confer ANY real power to “peasants”? Not on your nellie. This is simply distracting, low-level political intrigue for mass consumption - good-cop, bad-cop routine. The elite are eugenecists who want total, jack-boot power (and get rid of most horrible dark-skinned people). THESE are the people who need lynching.
October 12th, 2005 at 10:05 pm[…] I can’t really call this entry a NeoConjob, because it’s the truth. Bill O’Reilly states on FOX that a Rove indictment could end Bush’s Administration. You know, that’s the first thing I’ve heard fsckface say unworthy of THIS… […]
October 12th, 2005 at 10:07 pmSo what we do we do folks?
Bush won’t go down without a fight
And that fight may involve him declaring martial law
and doing a reichstag maneuver
So what will you do? We all need to start asking ourselves that question? We need to get prepared
The GOP stands for US RIght to torture
October 12th, 2005 at 10:13 pmhttp://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/101205D.shtml
Bush is untouchable. All he has to say is “I didn’t know what was going on.” Rove is a slime ball and everyone knows it. The same is true of Cheney and the other neo cons. But the truth of the matter is that Bush really doesn’t know what is going on. He is such a dumb shit that people will feel sorry for him and he will skate in the end.
October 12th, 2005 at 10:20 pmBush is untouchable. All he has to say is “I didn’t know what was going on.†Rove is a slime ball and everyone knows it. The same is true of Cheney and the other neo cons. But the truth of the matter is that Bush really doesn’t know what is going on. He is such a dumb shit that people will feel sorry for him and he will skate in the end.
Comment by Roger
No one is untouchable. These guys just aren’t that smart or competent to skate. The downside is the embarassment and damage they have caused us. The upside is that conservatism and the GOP are finished.
October 12th, 2005 at 11:55 pm[…] Think Progress » O’Reilly: “If Rove gets indicted, that could bring down the Bush administration.†[…]
October 13th, 2005 at 3:31 am1/2 the viewers thinks o’reilly tells no lies. 1/2 think thats all he does. when he tells the truth it sounds like a lie.
October 13th, 2005 at 8:02 ambush has a huge deniability factor built right in. no on thinks he has a clue about anything. he listens to no one. he reads nothing. he hears nothing. he is the sgt. schultz of washington.
October 13th, 2005 at 8:04 amThe next time you have a problem with your plumbing do not call a gardner. We have a serious problem with our Constitution and Bill of Rights, both sides are systematically destroying them, so call a Constitutionalist, not a gardner. No more Bush’s, no more Clintons, left/right left/right left/right. Aint you tired of having your friggin’ chain yanked? I am.
October 13th, 2005 at 8:27 amLet’s take back our country from the Bush/Clinton crime families. Infowars.com and prisonplanet.tv
#129
October 13th, 2005 at 9:17 amWe need to take our country back from the two factions. The concept of our democracy was NOT that all of the prominent elected officials come from one of two ideological parties. No politician on either side is allowed to step too far out of the ‘party line’ of thinking (though the Democrats are much more open to differing thoughts). This is not a true democracy, not when your choice is one of two ideologies (and those two are NOT the ONLY political ideologies possible). The structure of our government was supposed to be along democratic lines: that being a pooling of various ideas from various people (not just two sides bickering and jockeying for control). We can clearly see now the problem with the two party system (and if anyone wants to maintain that that is not the case, I would like to know how many people in the House of Reps, Senate, WH, etc. do not belong to one of the two parties. And why is it possible on your voting ballot to simply check “all Republican” or “all Democrat”? Why is each state designated “red” or “blue”? The list goes on.) The two parties have established themselves as one’s sole choice, if you want to see your vote count that is (others are allowed to maintain the farce that we are still a democracy). Political parties should not be allowed to dictate or direct ideology: they should exist merely as forums for those who are like minded to gather (like … a blog), but not to actually direct national policy. But, since the two parties, collectively, hold ALL the power they will not give any of it up (and it would have to be mutual and simultaneous). But it won’t matter, because China or Israel will step in and take over at some point. What would everyone like, fanatical Judaism or a nice steaming plate of Communism?
looks like this jackass is finally saying something we WANT to hear…
October 13th, 2005 at 10:47 ambut he’s still a jackass.
October 13th, 2005 at 11:34 amGood point’s one and all. XPILOT and Mysticagent, just incase you missed the big issue, we are already under the control, in a large part to China and Israel. China hold’s the biggest part of our debt and Israel has people in high places, such as Chertoff running things here, I’m sure he isn’t the only one. Regarding your coment’s on 2 party (rule) to some degree I agree. Now however I believe it is closer to a dictatorship. We are being surrounded by corruption on both sides. Our representatives on the left are aften joining the right, for their own personal interests, not for the people and our country. Untill the corruption is stoped and actual voting security is accomplished we have a hard road to hoe…..Blessings
October 13th, 2005 at 11:57 am“Just because this idiot is saying something you want to hear doesn’t make it true.” said Bill D.
October 13th, 2005 at 12:02 pmThat’s so very true. In fact, given his history of outrageous lies, it’s safer to assume that NOTHING O’Reilly says is true.
I mean, the man lies about his own childhood, pretending to be from a poor blue-collar family because the image plays better with the fools who listen to him.
Most of this stuff in this discussion is just peanuts in the overall picture of our world.
Never forget that Bush has been the most destructive president in history for the effect he has had on our country and it’s people.
The illegal, immoral acts committed in the name of the war on terrorism will be noted in history as the most egregious acts ever by a US president.
I voted for NO democrats from 1960 thru 2003.
October 13th, 2005 at 12:30 pmWishful thinking.
October 13th, 2005 at 12:54 pmAny number of crimes committed by the Bush administration would have brought down a less corrupt government. But, because the rot goes so deep in the Beltway, this administration has gotten away with it.
Remenber that they so obviously stole two elections, at the very least were guilty of weapons grade incompetence in allowing the attacks on 9/11, spent less money investigating 9/11 than the right wing spent trying to bring down Clinton over the so called Whitewater scandel, then hijacked the catastrophe to impliment the long standing right wing, fascist agenda, Project for a New American Century, the patriot act,etc., has ruled in the preemptive use of nuclear weapons, has promised us a lifetime of illegal borderless war against anyone who either has resources we want or simply doesn’t like us, has looted the Treasury for the benefit of the uber rich and the corporate elite, lied repeatedly to Congress and the American people, especially to invade and occupy Iraq and wage this obsurd phony, so called war on terror when history shows that the US is the formost purveyor of state sponsored terror the world has ever known, has gutted 50 years of environmental, workers’, and civil rights protection legislation, promotes torture in it’s gulags, has filled numerous governmental posts with political hacks and cronies where actual competence is necessary,as in FEMA, has used tax payor money to propogandize us and push their corporate sponsors’ anti-democratic and pro-corporate agenda, the list is endless.
It will take a sustained committed effort to bring down this overtly criminal enterprise. For it to happen, most of Congress with blood on their hands will have to sacrifice themselves for the common good. There’s no one naive enough to think that can happen.
What the hell is a Kool-Aid drinker, anyway? I always thought that meant someone who used LSD, but I am seeing it more frequently now, and I think the people using it mean something different than it’s original connotation. (like coment #5)
Anyway, even a broken clock is right twice a day. The whole GOP is going to come down, unless martial law is declared first. The GOP has been dying & factioning for 3 decades now. It’s on its last legs.
October 13th, 2005 at 12:56 pmMark, I was just trying to keep it short and readable but I totally agree with your expanded exposition on the bush administration.
(I voted for the idiot in 2000.)
October 13th, 2005 at 1:27 pmShould Joe Plame be indicted for leaking his wife’s “super secret” identity? You say she hadn’t been “undercover” for years?? She suggested Joe for the Niger assignment? Scoop jornalists were trying to confirm who assigned Wilson-Plame?? Go to a workshop given by Ronnie Earle on “Grand Jury Shopping”. Grow up desperate, ones!
October 13th, 2005 at 1:28 pm#137 Google “Jonestown” and or “Jim Jones” to learn what a “kool-aid drinker” refers to.
October 13th, 2005 at 2:26 pm#133
October 13th, 2005 at 2:44 pmI think I’d go as far as to say we are under a dictatorship. The last two elections were complete shams, and the ‘other side’ (Democrats) did not insist (as they should have) on an honest and open investigation so as to determine who the voters really voted for. But all the politicians really feed at the same trough, and it is the farmer (Big Corporate Buisness) who tells them what to do. Israel and or China haven’t stepped into our politics in a visible manner yet - they have influence, but they are keeping under the radar for now. And in truth, a two party system can work to some degree, but it requires honesty, integrity, and someone to watch (and punish, when need be) the people in charge. Bush’s proponents (including trolls) believe that Bush should not be accountable for anything because he is the president. And there you have a dictator: a dictator has to answer to no one. Who does Bush answer to for wrongdoings (or even mistakes: hey, everyone can make mistakes, but I can’t think of one job (apart from weather forecaster) where you can make huge mistakes and still keep your job. Some mistakes require termination of employment. Without benefits.). I aggree with you: the coruption must be stopped, and the only way to stop it is for it to be rooted out and the guilty punished. I am not optimistic, however, considering …(well, #136 said it very well).
“Should Joe Plame be indicted for leaking his wife’s “super secret†identity? You say she hadn’t been “undercover†for years?? She suggested Joe for the Niger assignment? Scoop jornalists were trying to confirm who assigned Wilson-Plame?? Go to a workshop given by Ronnie Earle on “Grand Jury Shoppingâ€. Grow up desperate, ones!
Comment by mighty aphrodite”
That accusation was descredited years ago. Talk about Desperate - you and your fellow freeper creeps are as desperate as the swiftboat cowards. You can’t even come up with an HONEST defense - so you make things up… Then again, the truth is always the enemy of reichwingers - that’s what Goebels said during hitler’s reign and it’s particularly true with this crew of fascists..
So just remember mighty windbag - just because you repeat a lie often - it doesn’t make it true - but it DOES make you delusional!
October 13th, 2005 at 3:05 pmI laugh at the thought of GW attempting to act in a presidential fashion with or without Rove. I don’t think he’s managed to do so yet.
October 13th, 2005 at 3:25 pmRyan–It is amazing how facts and truth are no longer in the lexicon of the Right (Reich). I agree with you 100%; Republican mantra:
October 13th, 2005 at 3:26 pm1)Keep repeating lies and inaccuracies and they’ll become true.
2)Ignore reason and rational thought.
3)Shout out the opposition and smear their character.
4)Pray
put the bong down the sixties are long gone and so are your brains
October 13th, 2005 at 7:07 pmJeff,
That’s because they are all schooled by Leo Strauss who was a Nazi Philosopher at the university of chicago. The whole PNAC NeoCon lexicon and strategy was devised based off of the tactics and methods that Goebels and other german propagandists created. Truth is ALWAYS the enemy of fascism - and that’s why they so desperately repeat it.
What’s REALLY sad is how many of these people are so desperate to believe a lie - that they won’t even fact check. And if they find the factcheck disagrees with them, they just move on and forget the event happened. It’s definitely a psychosis…
October 13th, 2005 at 7:15 pm#144 Jeff: Speaking of pray. Ever notice a Praying Mantis in attack mode? It assumes a “praying-like stance”…. just before it kills and devours it’s prey!
October 13th, 2005 at 9:39 pmHmmm….so much pressure on Rove and the band of thieves….if Rove IS indicted- and the pressure relieved- do you think that Barbara will say that things are (finally) working out pretty well for him too?
October 13th, 2005 at 11:54 pm“Kool-Aid drinker” is a reference to the horrible mass suicide by followers of “preacher” Jim Jones in Jonestown, Guyana, in November 1978. It is seared into the memory of the SF Bay Area, because that’s where Jones started his People’s Temple, and the mass suicide (and murder of Congressman Leo Ryan and others who were investigating if contituents were being held there against their will) was followed only days lager by the murder of SF Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk (the first openly gay supervisor. Several hundred people at Jonestown committed suicide by drinking a cyanide-laced packaged drink. Not “Kool-Aid” brand, I think, & so the makers of K-A must be mad that their brand has been tied to this horrible act, which has now made drinking their brand a synonym for the unthinking true believer.
October 14th, 2005 at 3:00 pmYou pussy liberal losers won’t have the last laugh as long as the American voters are concerned with security.
October 18th, 2005 at 12:40 pmYou pussy loser liberals can’t win elections so you root for the other party to sink. Aas long as the American vters are concerned with security, you will never win an election.
October 18th, 2005 at 12:42 pmThe Bush Administration (and Republicans nationwide) are going through what was bound to happen. Loss of Power. What until the 2006 Elections.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:39 am