Comments on: O’Reilly: “If Rove gets indicted, that could bring down the Bush administration.”

By: Jeff

Jeff — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 14:39:36 +0000

The Bush Administration (and Republicans nationwide) are going through what was bound to happen. Loss of Power. What until the 2006 Elections.

By: Ed Camp

Ed Camp — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:42:10 +0000

You pussy loser liberals can’t win elections so you root for the other party to sink. Aas long as the American vters are concerned with security, you will never win an election.

By: Ed Campf

Ed Campf — Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:40:35 +0000

You pussy liberal losers won’t have the last laugh as long as the American voters are concerned with security.

By: Cal Gal

Cal Gal — Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:00:22 +0000

“Kool-Aid drinker” is a reference to the horrible mass suicide by followers of “preacher” Jim Jones in Jonestown, Guyana, in November 1978. It is seared into the memory of the SF Bay Area, because that’s where Jones started his People’s Temple, and the mass suicide (and murder of Congressman Leo Ryan and others who were investigating if contituents were being held there against their will) was followed only days lager by the murder of SF Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk (the first openly gay supervisor. Several hundred people at Jonestown committed suicide by drinking a cyanide-laced packaged drink. Not “Kool-Aid” brand, I think, & so the makers of K-A must be mad that their brand has been tied to this horrible act, which has now made drinking their brand a synonym for the unthinking true believer.

By: mgc

mgc — Fri, 14 Oct 2005 03:54:19 +0000

Hmmm….so much pressure on Rove and the band of thieves….if Rove IS indicted- and the pressure relieved- do you think that Barbara will say that things are (finally) working out pretty well for him too?

By: Mr. Evil

Mr. Evil — Fri, 14 Oct 2005 01:39:35 +0000

#144 Jeff: Speaking of pray. Ever notice a Praying Mantis in attack mode? It assumes a “praying-like stance”…. just before it kills and devours it’s prey!

By: Ryan Neat

Ryan Neat — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:15:58 +0000

Jeff,

That’s because they are all schooled by Leo Strauss who was a Nazi Philosopher at the university of chicago. The whole PNAC NeoCon lexicon and strategy was devised based off of the tactics and methods that Goebels and other german propagandists created. Truth is ALWAYS the enemy of fascism – and that’s why they so desperately repeat it.

What’s REALLY sad is how many of these people are so desperate to believe a lie – that they won’t even fact check. And if they find the factcheck disagrees with them, they just move on and forget the event happened. It’s definitely a psychosis…

By: gru

gru — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:07:53 +0000

put the bong down the sixties are long gone and so are your brains

By: Jeff

Jeff — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:26:26 +0000

Ryan–It is amazing how facts and truth are no longer in the lexicon of the Right (Reich). I agree with you 100%; Republican mantra:
1)Keep repeating lies and inaccuracies and they’ll become true.
2)Ignore reason and rational thought.
3)Shout out the opposition and smear their character.
4)Pray

By: Ken

Ken — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:25:25 +0000

I laugh at the thought of GW attempting to act in a presidential fashion with or without Rove. I don’t think he’s managed to do so yet.

By: Ryan Neat

Ryan Neat — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:05:54 +0000

“Should Joe Plame be indicted for leaking his wifeâ€™s â€œsuper secretâ€ identity? You say she hadnâ€™t been â€œundercoverâ€ for years?? She suggested Joe for the Niger assignment? Scoop jornalists were trying to confirm who assigned Wilson-Plame?? Go to a workshop given by Ronnie Earle on â€œGrand Jury Shoppingâ€. Grow up desperate, ones!
Comment by mighty aphrodite”

That accusation was descredited years ago. Talk about Desperate – you and your fellow freeper creeps are as desperate as the swiftboat cowards. You can’t even come up with an HONEST defense – so you make things up… Then again, the truth is always the enemy of reichwingers – that’s what Goebels said during hitler’s reign and it’s particularly true with this crew of fascists..

So just remember mighty windbag – just because you repeat a lie often – it doesn’t make it true – but it DOES make you delusional!

By: mysticagent

mysticagent — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:44:39 +0000

#133
I think I’d go as far as to say we are under a dictatorship. The last two elections were complete shams, and the ‘other side’ (Democrats) did not insist (as they should have) on an honest and open investigation so as to determine who the voters really voted for. But all the politicians really feed at the same trough, and it is the farmer (Big Corporate Buisness) who tells them what to do. Israel and or China haven’t stepped into our politics in a visible manner yet – they have influence, but they are keeping under the radar for now. And in truth, a two party system can work to some degree, but it requires honesty, integrity, and someone to watch (and punish, when need be) the people in charge. Bush’s proponents (including trolls) believe that Bush should not be accountable for anything because he is the president. And there you have a dictator: a dictator has to answer to no one. Who does Bush answer to for wrongdoings (or even mistakes: hey, everyone can make mistakes, but I can’t think of one job (apart from weather forecaster) where you can make huge mistakes and still keep your job. Some mistakes require termination of employment. Without benefits.). I aggree with you: the coruption must be stopped, and the only way to stop it is for it to be rooted out and the guilty punished. I am not optimistic, however, considering …(well, #136 said it very well).

By: mysticagent

mysticagent — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:26:03 +0000

#137 Google “Jonestown” and or “Jim Jones” to learn what a “kool-aid drinker” refers to.

By: mighty aphrodite

mighty aphrodite — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:28:49 +0000

Should Joe Plame be indicted for leaking his wife’s “super secret” identity? You say she hadn’t been “undercover” for years?? She suggested Joe for the Niger assignment? Scoop jornalists were trying to confirm who assigned Wilson-Plame?? Go to a workshop given by Ronnie Earle on “Grand Jury Shopping”. Grow up desperate, ones!

By: John

John — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:27:05 +0000

Mark, I was just trying to keep it short and readable but I totally agree with your expanded exposition on the bush administration.

(I voted for the idiot in 2000.)

By: Wendy

Wendy — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:56:36 +0000

What the hell is a Kool-Aid drinker, anyway? I always thought that meant someone who used LSD, but I am seeing it more frequently now, and I think the people using it mean something different than it’s original connotation. (like coment #5)

Anyway, even a broken clock is right twice a day. The whole GOP is going to come down, unless martial law is declared first. The GOP has been dying & factioning for 3 decades now. It’s on its last legs.

By: mark pandapas

mark pandapas — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:54:06 +0000

Wishful thinking.
Any number of crimes committed by the Bush administration would have brought down a less corrupt government. But, because the rot goes so deep in the Beltway, this administration has gotten away with it.
Remenber that they so obviously stole two elections, at the very least were guilty of weapons grade incompetence in allowing the attacks on 9/11, spent less money investigating 9/11 than the right wing spent trying to bring down Clinton over the so called Whitewater scandel, then hijacked the catastrophe to impliment the long standing right wing, fascist agenda, Project for a New American Century, the patriot act,etc., has ruled in the preemptive use of nuclear weapons, has promised us a lifetime of illegal borderless war against anyone who either has resources we want or simply doesn’t like us, has looted the Treasury for the benefit of the uber rich and the corporate elite, lied repeatedly to Congress and the American people, especially to invade and occupy Iraq and wage this obsurd phony, so called war on terror when history shows that the US is the formost purveyor of state sponsored terror the world has ever known, has gutted 50 years of environmental, workers’, and civil rights protection legislation, promotes torture in it’s gulags, has filled numerous governmental posts with political hacks and cronies where actual competence is necessary,as in FEMA, has used tax payor money to propogandize us and push their corporate sponsors’ anti-democratic and pro-corporate agenda, the list is endless.
It will take a sustained committed effort to bring down this overtly criminal enterprise. For it to happen, most of Congress with blood on their hands will have to sacrifice themselves for the common good. There’s no one naive enough to think that can happen.

By: John

John — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:30:39 +0000

Most of this stuff in this discussion is just peanuts in the overall picture of our world.

Never forget that Bush has been the most destructive president in history for the effect he has had on our country and it’s people.

The illegal, immoral acts committed in the name of the war on terrorism will be noted in history as the most egregious acts ever by a US president.

I voted for NO democrats from 1960 thru 2003.

By: Frostokovich

Frostokovich — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:02:06 +0000

“Just because this idiot is saying something you want to hear doesnâ€™t make it true.” said Bill D.
That’s so very true. In fact, given his history of outrageous lies, it’s safer to assume that NOTHING O’Reilly says is true.
I mean, the man lies about his own childhood, pretending to be from a poor blue-collar family because the image plays better with the fools who listen to him.

By: Sharon Cox

Sharon Cox — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:57:45 +0000

Good point’s one and all. XPILOT and Mysticagent, just incase you missed the big issue, we are already under the control, in a large part to China and Israel. China hold’s the biggest part of our debt and Israel has people in high places, such as Chertoff running things here, I’m sure he isn’t the only one. Regarding your coment’s on 2 party (rule) to some degree I agree. Now however I believe it is closer to a dictatorship. We are being surrounded by corruption on both sides. Our representatives on the left are aften joining the right, for their own personal interests, not for the people and our country. Untill the corruption is stoped and actual voting security is accomplished we have a hard road to hoe…..Blessings