Downed Powerline
Downed Powerline
John Hinderaker of the popular right-wing blog Powerline has responded to our post this morning. He never appreciates it when we fact check his posts, this time calling us “loony,” “goofballs,” and “moonbats.”
His principle rebuttal is that he claimed no “religious leader” has raised objections to the Miers nomination and our counterexamples were “religious groups,” which don’t count. Actually his original argument was not limited to religious leaders:
The idea that ‘religious types’…are ‘frosted’ because Miers is a ’stealth’ candidate with ‘absolutely no paper trail’ is mystifying.
Also, aren’t religious groups led by – and this is probably just another “loony idea” – religious leaders?
His specific claims are no more convincing. Hinderaker objects to our example of Concerned Women for America because they are a “secular organization.” Here’s the top of CWA’s “About Us” section:
The clearest sign Hinderaker is in the wrong: he never links to our posts directly or even refers to the name of our blog. If he really believed in his argument, he’d let people see both sides and make up their own mind.
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October 14th, 2005 at 5:11 pmhey, i’m new on here. good for u, think progress. puttin’ em’ in their place.
October 14th, 2005 at 5:13 pmCONservatives can’t handle dissent. They’re so desperate to shut it down they COME HERE to try and squash it. What they don’t realize though is the harder they push, the more resilient we become. Come on Hindrocket – you want a trashing, come and get it you stupid loser! And wait, wasn’t he part of that loser group who could only must 400 protestors? Yeah, that’s the idiot!
They think america buys their values – bahahaha – they’re so checked out they have NO IDEA how far out of the mainstream the actually are! Homeschooling is a BAD THING! :)
October 14th, 2005 at 5:17 pmPowerline wrote:
CWA “well-respected” and “secular?” Um, okay, if it’s good enough for the IRS. Almost every Google hit describes the organization as religious. But never mind that!
October 14th, 2005 at 5:26 pmthe thing that gets me is they don’t do comments for their posts! what the hell!
anyone can come across as being superior and correct when you don’t allow feedback! sheesh.
October 14th, 2005 at 5:26 pmHis audacity is equalled only by Cheney.
After five years of watching these guys, you get a finer discerning palette for the *kinds* of liars in the mix.
There’s Bush, who slips in the false impression.
There’s McClellan, who swings them out like a bludgeon.
There’s Hume, who sneers as he lies to ward off protest.
There’s O’Reilly, who wards off fact-checks of his lie with bombast followed by a subject-change.
There’s Charles Johnson, who’s too cowardly to lie outright, though his every post is dick-deep in dishonesty, exaggeration and false context.
Then there’s the most blank-faced of them all, Cheney, whose lies are so simple, fundamental, an–you’d think–easy to debumk that they must be gauged to rely only on an appeal to the very stupidest listener and on a belief that it’s the privilege of the victor to rewrite history.
Assrocket is the only guy with the balls to do a ‘Cheney.’
October 14th, 2005 at 5:31 pmThat’s the little problem all these talkers have. They have no one to TALK BACK to them. Spin and walk away. Mr. Hind-end-kisser, get real. Do you realize how many emails get flushed by o’wrongly and limpdick, ‘Un-challanged’..was a Frontline show about limpdick. When Sally-jessie-Raphel confronted him he fell apart.
October 14th, 2005 at 5:37 pmTo a neocon, dissent is treason. Why would Powerline allow comments when even the President won’t allow them?
Maybe Powerline would allow comments if they were all scripted and rehearsed?
October 14th, 2005 at 5:53 pmI think some people think of a link as a kind of gift available only to the worthy. If they were to link to Think Progress, they’d be driving traffic to it and increasing its Google pagerank, two things they think it does not deserve. Power Line probably gets a lot of email asking only for a link, so they probably think their links are valuable.
I don’t think they’re really keen on dissent either, but their willingness to link isn’t merely about that. It goes along with the name-calling, in my opinion. It’s a sign of contempt.
October 14th, 2005 at 5:53 pmI suspect that posting his email address was the clincher. Assrocket HATES hearing from the Left. It violates the Claremont “force-bubble” and requires him to acknowledge the fact — at least temporarily — that a growing majority of Americans believe that he and his fellow true-believers are nuts.
PS: What a weenie defense! I’m glad he’s not my lawyer. I’d lose at the magistrate level.
October 14th, 2005 at 5:54 pmHey folks, we got to get Kenny Boy “Lips” Mehlman out there again flapping his lips at the folks.
Recent polls show, well mostly show, that black support of bush is nearing the taking point. One poll has it 2% another 12%. Either way, its bad news, so get Lips Mehlman out there.
I got an e-mail from several friends up there who keep tabs on the puke call in shows who report to me that pukes are calling in and telling the commentator that they are through with the pukes and will never vote republican again.
Way to go Kenny boy, you had better polish up your he-man image son, you are losing them faster than a humming bird flaps its wings, and you flap your lips.
October 14th, 2005 at 5:58 pmJudd doesn’t ahndle this any better than Amanda.
It would help a lot if “Think Progress†had someone who knows and understands religious concervatives as real people. Amanda and Judd clearly do not know what they are talking about.
The Hinderaker phrase with which Amanda feebly tries to take issue is “religious leaders†– which in this case means conservative evangelical religious leaders. Amanda apparently does not realize that the leaders who are most respected by evangelical conservatives today are those who lead active and respected Christian ministries. The list of such leaders would likely include James Dobson, Chuck Colson, Jerry Falwell and Billy Graham (plus son Franklin and daughter Ann). None of these people has objected to the Miers nomination. Dobson, Colson and Falwell have publicly stated their support for the nomination.
Apart from the obvious fact that none of the organizations cited by Amanda are “religious leaders,†a visit to their websites reveals a mixed bag of their opinions about the Miers nomination:
LIBERTY COUNSEL does not support the Miers nomination and has called on President Bush to withdraw it. This group’s website identifies it as “a nationwide public interest litigation, education and policy organization that specializes in constitutional law.†The group appears to have close ties to Jerry Falwell, whose endorsement appears on its website, and who has publicly stated that he supports the Miers nomination.
Result? A tie at best. Wishing that someone else had been nominated is not the same as urging senators to vote “No.†Liberty Counsel has yet to urge a “No†vote on Harriet Miers, and Falwell’s endorsement of her suggests that it probably will not do so.
CONCERNED WOMEN FOR AMERICA, according to its own press release, has “guarded optimism†in response to the Miers nomination. CWA Chief Counsel Jan LaRue has said, “We give Harriet Miers the benefit of the doubt because thus far, President Bush has selected nominees to the federal courts who are committed to the written Constitution. Whether we can support her will depend on what we learn from her record and the hearing process.â€
CWA also has released a memorandum explaining its evaluation of information about Harriet Miers. The memo explains why CWA is unable to endorse the nomination at this time. Ms. LaRue is quoted as saying, “Whether we can eventually support her will depend on answers to questions raised in our memorandum and what is learned during the hearing process. We believe the American people deserve convincing evidence that Miss Miers can be trusted with a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court.â€
Result? Clear advantage to Hinderaker. CWA is taking a deliberate wait-and-see attitude until the nominee testifies. As should we all.
OPERATION RESCUE is best known for its confrontational abortion clinic demonstrations. It website states that “Operation Rescue will not support Miers nomination unless more information is released assuring conservatives that she will be a strong constitutional constructionist in the mold of Thomas and Scalia, as was promised by Bush during the 2004 election.â€
Result? Again, clear advantage to Hinderaker. No “major religious conservative group objections†here. Despite its reputation for zealotry, Operation Rescue, like CWA, is also taking a wait-and-see stance.
Amanda would do well to start getting her facts straight. Maybe Judd should proof read her posts before they go up. The fact is that, while some conservatives are disappointed in the Miers nomination, not a single GOP senator has given any indication that he or she will vote against Miers when the time comes. That was just one of the points Hinderaker made in his excellent critique of Fineman’s ridiculous column. As it turns out, Hinderaker was right.
October 14th, 2005 at 6:12 pmI wish this point could be driven home. If Hinderaker was right in his thinking, he’d let his readers make the choice, instead of cutting away the facts.
What a schmuck.
October 14th, 2005 at 6:13 pmMore conservative humor from http://www.scrappleface.com:
“President George Bush today offered tips to conservative pundits designed to help them save face even before Harriet Miers is confirmed as an associate justice of the Supreme Court.
” ‘Everybody makes mistakes,’ said Mr. Bush. ‘I don’t think that George Will or Ann Coulter should withdraw from syndication. There’s still time for them to pull back and try another approach.’
“The president suggested that some of the most strident opponents to the Miers appointment could employ self-deprecating humor as a way of conceding their error while maintaining credibility.
” ‘I think it would be almost charming,’ said Mr. Bush, ‘if Bill Kristol on Fox News would just slap his forehead and say, ‘Harriet converted me. From now on, I’m a neo-pro’.’
“Meanwhile, the latest ABC-CNN-Gallup poll showed that the popularity rating for professional political commentators remains at plus-or-minus four percent.”
October 14th, 2005 at 6:19 pmBSR, where do you get that much time to hang out with us? What is your obsession? And for the love of Pete, please read something intelligent. You trolls are the most selfish and obtuse band of wierdos ever. Please don’t go to playgrounds or daycares, you would scare children.
I’m ashamed to be on the same planet.
October 14th, 2005 at 6:30 pm#4
I wanted to go to your Blog to comment and give you some encouragement but in order to comment I had to sell my Great-grand-children, mortgage the house, and disavow all knowledge of any thing important. All of this after I had signed up for some BS Blog that I have absolutely no interest in. If you have people that disagree with you to the extent they will endure all the crap to make a posting then they must be rightin their opinion. I suspect I am preaching against the commercial repugs that sell (for your soul if not your money) Blog sites and not against you. I do agree with your position but it is insulting to be subjected to all the “Homeland Security Bull Shit” just to communicate with you. You may click on my name below and get an E-mail address that will come directly to me if you are so inclined and I wil reply directly. I didn’t get my name because I was a nice guy–to the bad guys.
October 14th, 2005 at 6:58 pmP&P, I’ve been searching for case law on “aiding and abetting”. I suspect we could build a pretty decent case against BSR. He openly supports criminals and probably gets paid to post the talking point of the day.
What do you think? Any knowledge on this type of case law?
October 14th, 2005 at 6:58 pmLeave my Johnny ALONE, you loony goofballs and moonbats.
October 14th, 2005 at 7:09 pmI was going to post, “Hinderaker is now owned,” until it dawned on me that no one would actually want him.
October 14th, 2005 at 7:13 pmHey Red, #15, I read your post. Boy, I must congratulate you for continually pushing the Scrappleface site. This time you must have spent a half hour retyping those lines from the actual site. I also took a look at it to try and see just what the hell kind of completely false information Scott Ott was putting out.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the entire tired-assed site is filled with “made up news” Ott claims is “satire” and supposed to be entertaining for conservatives. I mean, he is a lame-brain in need of some serious talent, guy. Scott Ott of Zionville, PA will also make personal appearances for 5 grand a pop. I don’t think he has a lot of takers, and it appears the only advertising he is getting from the likes of you.
No real offense intended, Red, but his poor quality sh*t really, REALLY stinks. And so does yours. Other than that, I found your post pretty good reading.
October 14th, 2005 at 7:30 pmBravo!
October 14th, 2005 at 7:51 pmThis is an outstanding blog!!! Love all you do and eagerly await more!!!
Hey Red, #15, I read your post. Boy, I must congratulate you for continually pushing the Scrappleface site.
(…)
No real offense intended, Red, but his poor quality sh*t really, REALLY stinks. And so does yours. Other than that, I found your post pretty good reading.
Comment by Joe Sixpack
Scapple. Pigs feet and snouts. Of course it stinks.
October 14th, 2005 at 8:00 pmIt would help a lot if “Think Progress†had someone who knows and understands religious concervatives [sic] as real people. Amanda and Judd clearly do not know what they are talking about.
religious concervatives [sic] are….
Repressed, bigotted, superstitious morons. Yes Virginia, they are real.
October 14th, 2005 at 8:03 pmBSR,
Bahaha, you can’t even tell the difference between KNOWN made up satire and real news! Wow, you’ve been watching faux news so long even the outlandish satire you believe! What a stupid schmuck!
Bahahaha
October 14th, 2005 at 8:08 pmYeah Tom. That scrapplesh*t is not very funny. It was supposed to be, I guess, but us conservative asses haven’t got a lot to laugh about lately and it kind of sours the mood, you know?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but us rightwing rednecks usually like pigs feet and snouts. They have them pickled down at the bar and you are right, they sure do smell. Takes a whole pitcher of beer for me to wash them down with so my breath don’t stink the next day.
October 14th, 2005 at 8:12 pmI posted on the previous thread if anyone is interested a profile of the CWA. They’re part of the ‘vast right wing conspiracy’ associated with the John Birch Society (KKK Kalifornia style) that emerged out of southern california and the whole ‘Nixon/Reagan’ Fascist movement. They’re lunatic fringe major right wing trash!
October 14th, 2005 at 8:22 pmbuckfush, do people (conservatives) who live in mental institutions have to pay taxes? I would think not.
Is there a separate medication they can take to make them shut up? I wish.
October 14th, 2005 at 8:38 pmI can’t believe these guys are taken seriously.
All these right-wing pundits have such thin veneers. It seems they are transparant to everyone but themselves.
These blasphemers are an insult to any religion.
May their downfall be remembered for generations to come!!!
October 14th, 2005 at 10:20 pmHey #3 – not to split hairs, but many of us started homeschooling to avoid the conservative indoctrination that is comes free with a public education. While I will be the first to admit that many people homeschool to isolate their kids from “bad influences”, I would also state that many homeschool to expose their kids to the real world rather than lock them up in an institution 6+ hours/day learning to be good little soldiers and workers.
Sorry for the semi-off topic. I’ve been reading thinkprogress for quite some time now and have really been enjoying it. Thanks for maintaining it (though I have to admit, it reminds me on a daily basis why I left the US to live in Canada)
October 14th, 2005 at 11:00 pm“I would also state that many homeschool to expose their kids to the real world rather than lock them up in an institution 6+ hours/day learning to be good little soldiers and workers.”
Last time I checked this WAS the real world. But then again you left for canada, so obviously your sense of the real world might be a little off kilter.
October 15th, 2005 at 12:17 am#33 Conservative indoctrination? Public education as a concept is left leaning and a favorite tool of the State across all parties.
#34 You are correct, the real world needs dedicated workers and consumers. Who else is going to do the work? As stated in #33 many people choose to raise leaders and not work-a-day drones typically found in schools.
October 15th, 2005 at 12:52 amIt’s so sad that reichwingers have drug our nation through the mud in ‘our name’, so that now WE’RE being investigated by the UN War Crimes commission!
The 2005 International Commission of Inquiry
October 15th, 2005 at 1:06 amon Crimes Against Humanity Committed by
the Bush Administration of the United States
The Bush Crimes Commission
Concerned Women of America was founded by Beverly LaHaye, wife of “Left Behind” author Tim LaHaye. It most certainly is a religious organization.
October 15th, 2005 at 1:13 amRyan, have to questions for you. #36 read it, is it true.? If yes this could be the best ever..Next, you mentioned in another post that Miers group was part of the old John Birch society, right.? Yikes!…Blessings
October 15th, 2005 at 1:45 amRyan, finelly got to all your other posts and it answered the John Birch question. I had thought they were non existant now. Boy was I ever wrong. Very informative. When you have time could you tell me about the UN war crimes comission.Is Bolton tied into this in any way.? Thank’s ………Blessings
October 15th, 2005 at 2:35 amRyan,
you’re either a LIAR or have seriously misunderstood the link you posted. It’s not the U.N., it’s not even an international organization. It’s an offshoot of “Not in our Name,” a domestic group “opposing the domestic and international agenda of the Bush government.”
Click on your link, then click on “Go to Original,” then click on “Contact Us” — the address is “commission@nion.us” Now, go to http://nion.us and there you have your group.
They certainly are trying to pass themselves off as something they are NOT.
October 15th, 2005 at 2:57 amI just love to see the enemy freak out over us “commies”. Why do you suppose we scare them so much?
October 15th, 2005 at 3:04 amThe John Birch Society is very much alive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Birch_Society
That means that us “commies” are going to rub them out once and for all. We don’t need nukes to do it, either. That’s why the fascists are peeing in their lederhosen this time around.
October 15th, 2005 at 3:09 amView the JBS FBI files here.
http://birchers.blogspot.com/
October 15th, 2005 at 3:10 amOh, heck, I missed the link– this “International Commission of Inquiry” even provides a link to its sponsor, the “Not In Our Name” group– see
October 15th, 2005 at 3:15 amhttp://www.bushcommission.org/call-charter.htm
Not a problem. Have a good night.
October 15th, 2005 at 3:23 amSorry to be off topic but ….
October 15th, 2005 at 9:30 amThe female officer who took part in the Bush publicity stunt from Iraq the other day is actually a publicity agent for the Pentagon. Her job is to sell the Iraqi war favorably to the U.S. Her script was written to appear spontaneous, but it was carefully planned.
And we may have thought we knew how dishonest they are! They continue to show us more and more that they are beyond redemption.
The female officer who took part in the Bush publicity stunt from Iraq the other day is actually a publicity agent for the Pentagon. Her job is to sell the Iraqi war favorably to the U.S. Her script was written to appear spontaneous, but it was carefully planned.
Comment by Marie — October 15, 2005 @ 9:30 am
I’m not defending the propoganda, but this has been common for as long as I can remember. Television has made them all actors on a stage.
October 15th, 2005 at 10:09 amPowerline doesn’t allow comments and still they accuse the left of being elitist? There has to be a special kind of arrogance to not see the hypocrisy in that!
And Hindracker fans fashion him US senate material. Actually, dodging questions (and disent) is a prerequsite to being a politician so he might be good at that.
October 15th, 2005 at 10:24 amAnd we are all the worse for it.
October 15th, 2005 at 10:26 amWe all know campaigns are run by PR people, but I found this blatant propaganda to the American public to be particularly egregious. This was not only a stupid photo op, it was even more dishonest than usual from the Bush crime family.
#41
October 15th, 2005 at 11:00 amWhat do you know, Ryan “missed” the details again. Happens all the time Rotgut. Even the lefties here are calling him on his propaganda and lies now. At least he admitted it to you.
Fineman didn’t say, nor did he mean, that Evangelical leaders are vociferously anti-Miers, but that the majority of “religious types” are not happy with the nomination. In fact Fineman specifically contrasts Dobson’s public support with the sense Fineman is getting from individuals in the pews in Dobson’s own stomping grounds. Think Progress gives examples of organizations that have been, shall we say less than enthusiastic, fitting Fineman’s evocation of “religious types,” but Hinderaker and disciples say that’s not good enough, those aren’t “leaders.” The problem for them is that Fineman didn’t specify leaders, Hinderaker did, and thereby both moved the goalposts and laid a beating on a sadsack strawman of his own making.
October 15th, 2005 at 1:02 pmAgreed. The origin of this story listed the source as the UN, late at night, and I missed the details. I agree this is a different story than what I thought it was. I apologize for the error.
Comment by Ryan Neat
Don’t apologize. Rigid adherence to Anti-communism while using marxian logic to oppose it is as damaging and dangerous as rigid adherence to any ideology to the exclusion of all others. Ideas ony feared by small minded cowards. What do you think drove Hitler?
Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson and other Founding Fathers, Locke, even Adam Smith, the father of the faied “Laissez-Faire economics†would be considered “communists†today by these idiots, just like they felt about Eisenhower and Nixon were commiies and sociaists. These morons are insane. They are the dangerous ones. Like evangelical fundies, they cherry pick certain passages and misrepresent the histrorical record and the facts, even produce false text out of whole cloth, to construct a false religion, because that’s what Libertarianism is. It’s more akin to a religious cult than a legitimate poitical philosophy. It’s no more credibe than Ayn Rand’s pseudo-philosophy, objectivism.
October 15th, 2005 at 2:23 pm“What do you know, Ryan “missed†the details again. Happens all the time Rotgut. Even the lefties here are calling him on his propaganda and lies now. At least he admitted it to you.
Comment by Phinga Bheng”
That’s because I ALWAYS admit my mistakes, unlike you buttplug. The difference between Rotgut and you is that HE was right, and you never are!
October 15th, 2005 at 5:20 pm“Not a problem. Have a good night.
Comment by Rotgut ”
You as well, and thanks for pointing out the error! I value integrity, both in others and myself. Too bad I rarely see it from conservatives. They always talk about personal accountability, and despite the numerous times I’ve proven them wrong, not a single one has ever admitted it. But then again, Bush has never admitted being wrong either. It appears to be the psychosis of the right. Not only do they reject every making a mistake, even when proven, they’re typically pscyhotic like phenga benga is to somehow treat ANY error as an admission of all failures. But then again, that’s what crazy people do – so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised…
October 15th, 2005 at 5:23 pmPhengaButtPlug still believes what FauxNews is saying that there was a ‘tie’ between AlQueda and Iraq.
Webster’s dictionary definition of a tie relevant to politics:
: a moral or legal obligation to someone or something typically constituting a restraining power, influence, or duty
Since there was no ‘moral’ obligation and no ‘legal’ obligation (eg. no treaty), then two organizations that simply ‘talked’ on what appears to be 3 occassions? Does not constitute a ‘tie’. Our treaties and ‘ties’ to Iraq that supplied them with WMDs and our ties which supplied money, training and stinger missiles to AlQueda (never mentioned in the 9/11 report interestingly enough?) are TIES. Everything else is a smokescreen and speculation with NO evidence to back it up. Over 100 intelligence reports were created from a SINGLE WITNESS who was never even interviewed by american intelligence. The OSP (NeoCon aholes) retooled the evidence to come to a DIFFERENT conclusion than the CIA – which COMPLETELY disagreed with the ‘conclusion’. What ButtPlug uses in his defense is that several american figures ’speculated’ that there could be a relationship – so what? I speculate he’s a fat stupid middle age man with issues with women – but I have nothing to prove that other than his irrational style of argument and poor socialization skills. That doesn’t make it true – does it butt plug?
When you try to fit the evidence to a preconception – that’s NOT intelligence or investigation, it’s a witch hunt. Something CLEARLY suited to republican values, but not american values!
Wake up schmuck, and get a clue you dumbass!
October 15th, 2005 at 5:31 pmRyan, from what I’ve heard for the past few years is that Bushie will not acknowledge a U.N. tribunal. German Chancelor Shroeder visited this in about 03 and Bushie told him straight out that he will not abide by any tribunals.
So for the neocons who say Ryan is inaccurate, you’re full of it. The U.N. does want a tribunal.
October 15th, 2005 at 5:31 pm“The problem for them is that Fineman didn’t specify leaders, Hinderaker did, and thereby both moved the goalposts and laid a beating on a sadsack strawman of his own making.
Comment by tigrismus”
So true! Assrocket is a typical propagandist. They can’t win the argument, so they redefine what the argument was and lie about it. It’s classic media manipulation and intentional misrepresentation for the purposes of deceit. In otherwords, classic CONservatism! Always remember that you never have CONservativism unless you begin with a CON!
October 15th, 2005 at 5:33 pmSusan,
That’s true, but I did accidentally misrepresent that particular story. It was late at night and I misread that there was an OFFICIAL tribunal being called. It was my mistake – I’m afraid I was up too late and misread the specific story. It happens to the best of us :)
Unlike shrub and every other inept republican though, I have no problems admitting my mistakes. That’s called being an adult. I have as yet to see a SINGLE reichwinger post here who had that capacity however. Why? Because they’re almost always wrong, and they’d need to spend the entire thread apologizing for being dumbasses!
October 15th, 2005 at 5:41 pmSusan,
October 15th, 2005 at 6:39 pmI’m a lying idiot. But I’m glad you haven’t figured it out yet. At least someone accepts my b.s. How’s Weight Watchers going?
“The clearest sign Hinderaker is in the wrong: he never links to our posts directly or even refers to the name of our blog. If he really believed in his argument, he’d let people see both sides and make up their own mind.” – Judd
Judd, are you related to the consistently wrong Nico? Just wondering… Do you have an uncle (or aunt) in HR at Think Progress??? THAT might explain the ineptitude of some people who dig up all the “newsworthy” items at this site.
Hinderaker, BTW MUCH more handsome than any of your puny “male” specimens – doesn’t waste his time linking to TP (appropriate initials, by the way!) because the fellow travellers on this site will NEVER learn any new tricks. He comments ABOUT progressives – he knows he’s not going to win any hearts and minds (oh, that’s right – JUST hearts then) – basically, you’re like shooing away annoying insects.
October 15th, 2005 at 7:16 pmAh,
Now we know the identity of MightyManWhore AND MrWrong – they’re Assrocket! I always wondered why all of the propaganda they spewed almost exactly matched what was on powerline and free republic – because they’re all the same stupid fat assed retard! Bahahaha, thanks for confirming what a LOSER you are assrocket! Bahahaha
October 15th, 2005 at 7:57 pmOh, and while we’re on ‘winning hearts’.
600,000 progressive protestors
400 Assrocked fascist protesters.
Bahahaha, great job losers!
October 15th, 2005 at 7:57 pmAnd for anyone who hasn’t seen him, Hinderaker looks like a lesbian in drag!
http://www.fraterslibertas.com/Images/Separated/2004/DeaconRocket.jpeg
He’s the fat gross doughball on the right! You know man titties aren’t masculine, and they AREN’T PECS! If he grew a beard he’d actually look like a bulldyke and not a fem!
Considering the obvious sexual ambiguity that MightyHermaphrodite exhibits, no wonder he/she is confused on what masculinity entails!
October 15th, 2005 at 8:05 pm“THAT might explain the ineptitude of some people who dig up all the “newsworthy†items at this site.”
Well to someone who can’t distinguish reality, the idea of corruption, inept government failures, acts of treason and federal failures might not seem newsworthy. But you’re the same inept group that could only get 400 (generous number by the way) people to show up to a nationwide event! Clearly your idea of ‘newsworthy’ and ‘effective’ aren’t really relevant now are they? Of course not.
Now go lick A$$rocket’s backside on his site, where that sort of ManWhore business is better suited.
Wait, isn’t AssRocket the guy who didn’t know telephoto camera lenses exist, and therefore he FABRICATED a story that wasn’t true based on that ignorance? Yeah, he’s the moron!
http://brian.carnell.com/archives/years/2005/04/000003.html
Bahaha, you guys are SOOOO embarrassing! It’s like the high school nerds who thought the were cool in chess club – that’s Hinderaker AND MightyHinderaker! Bahahahaha – LOSERS!
October 15th, 2005 at 8:09 pmSusan,
I’m a lying idiot. And I’m so glad you remind me of it daily. Thanks for referring me to Weight Watchers, and but I’m sorry to inform you that I ATE my counselor. Skinny people just look like food to me since I weigh more than my SUV does now.
Well at least Hindrocket says my manboobs make him feel straight now, so that much makes me feel fulfilled. After all, what’s a man/woman gonna do when I reach the status of my own area code? Any love is great, even the love of a psychotic loser who can’t distinguish reality from a startrek convention! Nerds unite and libertarians forever!
Sorry to ramble, on, but you know I never have anything coherent to say.
Tah Tah, I have to get to the all you can eat shrimp buffet before Hindrocket eats my lunch out!
October 15th, 2005 at 8:14 pmBahaha, you guys are SOOOO embarrassing! It’s like the high school nerds who thought the were cool in chess club – that’s Hinderaker AND MightyHinderaker! Bahahahaha – LOSERS!
Comment by Ryan Neat
Just how stupid is any conservative Republican, Ryan?
October 16th, 2005 at 12:44 amAs Voltaire suggested, to ponder the infinite, consider the level of human stupidity. You will find it’s locus, it’s heart in conservatism and the Republican party. Let’s work to eliminate the stagnant and festering puss filled sore it has become, by any means necessary, from the body politic. Then we can set about fixing the similar but lesser problems in the Democratic party.
All Progressives, classical liberals or classical conservatives, should read Progress and Poverty by Henry George. Today’s conservatives are nothing of the kind.
You can even read it on line here.
October 16th, 2005 at 2:24 amThe Land Question
October 16th, 2005 at 2:27 am“I also recommend the work of Phil Agre
He talks about Conservatism in the context of revived aristocracy.”-
I read the Agre “work” – what was it – a term paper “authored” by a high school junior?
October 16th, 2005 at 6:01 pm“The defenders of aristocracy represent aristocracy as a natural phenomenon, but in reality it is the most artificial thing on earth….Conservatism in every place and time is founded on deception….The opposite of conservatism is democracy.” The only thing missing was the phrase “I feel…” NO evidence is offered EXCEPT the “author’s” opinion – Agre MUST be related to Neat!!! (Just googled Agre – why am I NOT surprised that he is an “associate professor’ at UCLA -The lack of critical thinking skills is sadly evident. I’m sure he’ll be a big hit at the University.
For readers interested in the study of capitalism and its effect on politics and governing bodies, you might glean something from “The Road to Serfdom” by Nobel prize winning economist, Friedrich von Hayek. It started off as a piece critiquing the totalitarian system under Nazism. A very telling and prophetic chapter is “The End of Truth”. (An aside, Ryan, seeing the quality of the research you cite, you may wish to skip this – big words CAN be confusing.)
October 16th, 2005 at 6:56 pmIf you are an idiot savant – what are YOU GOOD at??
“You criticize others for ‘critical thinking’, and yet you associate ‘democracy’ with ‘capitalism’.”- ryan
YOU ARE TRULY PATHETIC- I BLAMEYOUR LACK OF READING ABILITY AND COMPREHENSION!!!!Below are my comments which confused the poor putz.
“For readers interested in the study of capitalism and its effect on politics and governing bodies, you might glean something from “The Road to Serfdom”..-MA
“As for the ‘quality’ of the work I cite, I cite interesting people, who’ve done interesting work. And I prefer to cite people who are easily read and easily understood.” -ryan
October 16th, 2005 at 7:55 pmTranslation: BIG WORDS CONFUSE ME!!!
Good night, little putz!!!!
tsk tsk– when you copy and paste from elsewhere, you really should use attribution. You wouldn’t want anyone thinking you’re smarter than you are, would you?
October 17th, 2005 at 12:47 pmHey Ryan, What a breath of fresh air. I’ll bet you’re the life of the party, after you leave.
October 17th, 2005 at 4:32 pm“You criticize others for ‘critical thinking’,” – No, iodotis, I critcize you LACK of critical thinking – YOU are a remedial reading candidate – Actually, you are an EXCELLENT example of a narcissist – you’re so busy crafting your “argument” (HA!) that you don’t listen to others. Were you an only child – you are VERY self-absorbed???
“If you’d like, I can cite tremendous numbers of other more scholarly analysis – the great part is that there are HUNDREDS. But few are as concise and as straightforward as the work of this amateur.” Why waste my time (I’ve read Keynes, Galbraith, etc.) – do you always shoot blanks??
October 17th, 2005 at 4:38 pm