O’Reilly: Rove Indictment Would Be “Bad For the Country”
O’Reilly: Rove Indictment Would Be “Bad For the Country”
Fox News anchor Bill O’Reilly finds the ongoing CIA leak scandal deeply troubling.
Of course, what bothers O’Reilly isn’t that the top adviser to the President of the United States may have outed a CIA operative to punish a whistleblower. It’s that that top advisor may be held accountable. From last night’s O’Reilly Factor with Juan Williams and William Kristol:
O’REILLY: What about Karl Rove, Juan? If he is indicted, I just don’t know what’s going to happen to the country. I don’t want chaos in the executive branch.
Later in the segment, O’Reilly took it a step further:
KRISTOL: On Karl Rove, I very much want to agree with you, Bill. I am worried about what happens to the administration if Rove is indicted. I think it’s the criminalization of politics that’s really gotten totally out of hand.
O’REILLY: You know, it’s just bad for the country.
O’Reilly has it wrong. The problem isn’t the “criminalization of politics.” It’s the criminals in politics.
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O’Reilly has it backwards. It’s not the possible indictment that is bad for the country — it is the alleged crime.
No, it's the Bush administration, and "conservatism" that's bad for the country, even when they accidentally adhere to the law.
October 15th, 2005 at 2:19 pmyes, it's the crime... it's the lying... it's the contempt in which the american citizenry is held... it's the unbelievable hypocrisy, accusing the terrorists of killing innocent human beings in pursuit of a political end as we do the very same thing in iraq...
http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/2005/10/harsh-words-for-bushs-hypocrisy.html
October 15th, 2005 at 2:29 pmNo chaos in the Executive Branch? But O'reilly wasn't about to stop reporting the lies coming out of the Starr Special coucil office. Or how Clinton couldn't salute properly, or how Clinton held up air traffic to get his hair cut. Those were REAL scandals, the outing of a CIA operative and the danger put on her web, not so much!
Thank God that Bill is on the case.
October 15th, 2005 at 2:33 pmAhh yes, "the criminalization of politics " - that's the ticket.
The rovian ways - take the truth you have defiled, turn it inside out and paste it on.
Perhaps a simple game for these sleeze-boys? Whenever you hear them attack - just assume it's an autobiographical statement
October 15th, 2005 at 2:39 pmTypical O'Lielly ass-backward pontificating.
October 15th, 2005 at 2:56 pmPunishing a criminal would be bad for the country. What twisted logicf!
The world laughed at us while we spent years pursuing Clinton over sexual conduct, but they excused us for our misapplied Puritanism, and O'Lielly thinks that was OK for our government, and in fact, encouraged it.
This time the pursuit is for real criminal behavior -- traitorous acts and conspiracy, as well as lying about those matters to the prosecutor; if we don't determine the truth and punish the perpetrators, THAT will be bad for the country.
I already sent him an Email. The perverted jerk.
Let's take out both of them.
Which of Bush's filthy cronies failed to produce the vacine that Americans will need for the virus that has now reached Europe?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/story/0,1271,-5346219,00.html?gusrc=ticker-103704
We just keep saying, which failure to uphold the oath office will be enough to call an end to it.
UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION
Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.articleii.html#section1
PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE
"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. "
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.preamble.html
October 15th, 2005 at 3:08 pmNice piece on this pseudo-knowledgable radio head at Buzzflash here.
http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/03/11/int03320.html
Limbaugh, Hannity, and O'Reilly have this magical way of talking that lets you think they have something valuable to say. I wish someone would dissect the style to expose why it is so convincing even though they are all liars. They have some stuff that falls flat (eg the O'Reilly's volks/folks), but there is still some real magic - intonation, word choice, phrases, repetition (esp Hannity and Limbaugh) that is drawing in people who should destest these people and their ideas.
October 15th, 2005 at 3:21 pmAt least O'Reilly is fair because he said the same thing when he discouraged folks from impeaching Clinton, right? Right?
October 15th, 2005 at 3:23 pmThe hypocracy of these repuke talking heads is mind boggeling. Last Sunday on Staphlocaccus' show, Kristol complained how much he dreads this politics of personal destruction. Now, in addition to Shrill OhReally's show, he has an article in Weakly Standard crying about how many conservative politicians are facing the law. These fools don't remember the 90s at all?
October 15th, 2005 at 3:31 pmI can't wait for the celebrated, paparazzi blood sucking perp walk that is eminent. Rove et al. in cuffs. That's justice. Or perhaps we aught send them to Gitmo with no trial, just for kicks.
October 15th, 2005 at 3:43 pmHey Billie: Wasn't it the Bushies who "criminalized" politics? And the country's been in "chaos" since Bush took office--what difference does it make if there is chaos in the White House now? And what's wrong with people being held accountable for their wrongs? How much did your little sex scandal cost you?
October 15th, 2005 at 3:52 pmYou're so pathetically transparent!
Billy- You, Rush, Sean suck on playing defense. Bad for the country? What, we need another decade of Republican Wars and corruption? You think this is what this country needs?
Why do you hate America so much, Billy? Is the money you make apologizing for the Syndicate criminals more important than the welfare of this country? I look forward to seeing you held accountable for your actions that enabled these crooks to take our country over.
October 15th, 2005 at 4:20 pmI looked up "O'Reilly" in the thesaurus and found "liar", "full o' shit", "blowhard", and "assclown; see also Republican"
October 15th, 2005 at 4:25 pm#7
The Bushco and DUHbya have upheld the Constitution in that they have systematically executed the Office of the President, the Constitution, anyone who disagrees with them and our American way of life. It is time they are the executionees and the people the executioners.
October 15th, 2005 at 4:30 pmReally OReilly. Just who in the hell criminalized politics if it was not the frigging bunch running around now and trying to stay out of prison?
October 15th, 2005 at 5:03 pmO'Scumbag is bad for our country.
Indictments in the White House will bring back our credibility. Without them we are still warmongering, lying murderers.
October 15th, 2005 at 5:06 pmI have to agree with Bill O'Righty here. Not because us bullying, pompous-assed, selfrighteous rightwingers need to stick together, but because Bill hopefully understands what we all here fear could come true:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if Rove goes down and possibly drags down Scooter Libby and his boss, who would that leave running the country? Junior. All by himself. I mean, the most powerful country in the world in the hands of a partially reformed alcoholic and cokehead who could very easily jump off the wagon?
Scary.
October 15th, 2005 at 5:20 pmYikes! If I'm translating O'Reilly correctly he actually prefers a lack of law and accountability to an honest administration?
October 15th, 2005 at 5:47 pmWHAT!....that's same crap ex-pres. ford said when he PARDONED nixon!...'it's good for the country for me to pardon nixon.'...in otherwords, screw justice! o'wrongly you are such a sheep....blindly following the repubo/nazi line.
October 15th, 2005 at 5:50 pmApparently Bill O'Reilly believes that obvious treason by an unelected high level government official that costs hundreds to thousands of American lives and plays havoc with national security is fine, but indicting the slimy little toad for his crimes is somehow bad for the country. Okaaay.
Don't worry Billy, the nice men in the white coats will be along any minute now.
October 15th, 2005 at 6:11 pmBill O'Reilly jumped the shark about 18 months ago. His radio show is being cut in some markets. He better get back to the hard-hitting journalism that he excels at: Naked Lesbian Paintball Tournaments....Where Does the Morality Begin?
What say you?
October 15th, 2005 at 6:18 pmO'Reilly is bad for the country.
And so is Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Newt Gingrich. Because they don't care about the country, they care about their monies, and they do their business by creating havoc based on lies and hate. I'm tolerant and I'm open to new ideas. When Rush first had his TV show, I watched and I thought to myself this guy is arrogant, ignorant, mean and hateful. He would say the most awful personal things about people. I never in my life heard people talk that way about other people before. The quality of talk media/debate has gone down hill ever since.
I read Al Gore's recent speech, and this part caught my eye because does it explain how hate biased media got it footing: "...Public Interest Standard, the Equal Time Provision, and the Fairness Doctrine - though a half century later, in 1987, they were effectively repealed. And then immediately afterwards, Rush Limbaugh and other hate-mongers began to fill the airwaves." Our downfall started in the 80's with Reagan and we have been falling ever since.
http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/10/5/14301/6133
October 15th, 2005 at 6:30 pmWhat's bad for the country is the DISMANTLING OF EDUCATION - something that's not only IRRESPONSIBLE but INSANE!!!
From the New York Times we learn that, with the neglect since Republicans took control of two branches of government, public university education has been struggling:
Taxpayer support for public universities, measured per student, has plunged more precipitously since 2001 than at any time in two decades, and several university presidents are calling the decline a de facto privatization of the institutions that played a crucial role in the creation of the American middle class.
...
At an academic forum last month, John D. Wiley, chancellor of the University of Wisconsin-Madison, said that during the years after World War II, America built the world's greatest system of public higher education.
"We're now in the process of dismantling all that," Dr. Wiley said.
It's clear that the republicans are working to dismantle ALL public education. Higher Education is almost solely responsible for creating america's middle class. These fascist retards are DESTROYING america, and will in the end turn it into a latin american banana republic if left to their devices!
October 15th, 2005 at 6:43 pmIf there is anyone unfit to talk about anything having to do with morality it is O'Faufal. He obviously flunked catechism in grammar school, because he knows nothing of the injunction spoken by Jesus in the Gospels about removing the beam from your own eye before you attempt to remove the splinter from someone else's eye. Such a pathetic excuse for a human being.
October 15th, 2005 at 6:46 pmHmm, "I think it’s the criminalization of politics that’s really gotten totally out of hand". What an epipheny, where was he during the Clinton administration?
October 15th, 2005 at 7:16 pmThere is but one simple answer. Rove comitted TREASON. Simply point folks at Title 18, Section 793 and 794:
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000793----000-.html
October 15th, 2005 at 7:25 pmhttp://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000794----000-.html
Tigris (#12) Good point. There's chaos now! I'm so sick of this "criminalizing politics" cant. As we know so very well, it's "politicizing crime". When the right gets "on message" and starts mouthing Rove talking points, they're trying to piss people off I think. They know they're lying. They know we know. We have to realize this and see that all they want to do is confuse the issue and get the leftists pissed so they can laugh at them and talk about how reality-based they are.
We have GOT to push these weasels out of office. I feel it coming.
October 15th, 2005 at 7:40 pmO'Lielly is an a**hole.
October 15th, 2005 at 7:42 pmThat's all we need to know.
Anyone who puts him on TV cares nothing
for intelligent content.
O'LIELLY: "I just don’t know what’s going to happen to the country. I don’t want chaos in the executive branch."
Then what was up with his crucifying Clinton over the cover-up of an extramarital affair? I presume that's the type of presidential "chaos" he relishes. O'Lielly should stick to recording audio tape fantasies about his groping of coworkers.
KRISTOL: "I am worried about what happens to the administration if Rove is indicted."
October 15th, 2005 at 8:10 pmSame question. Why the two wildly differing standards for Clinton and Shrub?
Where was this hypocrite's outrage when they were dragging Clinton through the mud?
October 15th, 2005 at 8:18 pmGood evening mad, nutty libs. I suppose all of you are just beside yourselves with joy because of the witch-hunt that is going in DC.
October 15th, 2005 at 8:27 pmHoly crap. What a bunch of whinny nutty libs. I get a kick out of all of your crying and belly-aching. Fun stuff, indeed.
October 15th, 2005 at 8:34 pmStubain,
If you came here to make a point, make it. Otherwise, shut your miserable fascist mouth and piss off.
October 15th, 2005 at 8:36 pmMy link to Title 18, Section 793 and Title 18, Section 794 did not translate well when pasted in to message #29. Please google those Statutes, as even a cursory read makes it obvious that Rove, Libby and others have comitted Treason.
October 15th, 2005 at 8:47 pmFiring squads. Step on up Stubain. If you support traitors, you are one, right?
October 15th, 2005 at 8:52 pmRon,
I think anyone that's been paying attention to this story since Joe Wilson was attacked, other potential whistleblowers intimidated, and Plame outed knows that this is treason of the highest order. I doubt that Rove and Libby and the rest of the slimeball cabal involved in this "protect the rationale for invading Iraq at all costs" effort will ever face justice commensurate with the crimes that they've committed. As we know, when you have the highest-priced lawyers and YOU ARE the friends in high places, it may take an act of God to deliver justice.
As far as I'm concerned, the motive and the crime are crystal clear. It's the evidence that we don't have a handle on. How well did Rove, Libby, Cheney and the boys cover their tracks? Keep their stories straight?
October 15th, 2005 at 8:59 pmLet's cut to the chase. Rove, Libby, Cheney, Bush, McClellan, all have no credibility whatsoever!
This is GOOD for this country! The next administration dare not even remotely continue the path that Bushco has laid forth. And I'm willing to bet that a lot of new legislation will be forthcoming because of the events of the present.
America will soon be back in the hands of the people, as it should be. If constitutions are really so important (Iraq), why don't we start using ours again?
October 15th, 2005 at 9:20 pmThey (StupidStubain) whine when they know their criminal butt buddies are going to jail and their fantasies of loose ass are no longer obtainable.
October 15th, 2005 at 10:08 pmIt's always fun to read the drek the repugnicans espouse here. They prefer corruption over the constitution. They prefer lies over the plain truth. They prefer cronyism over competence. They prefer fantasy over reality. Well, a known fact among all critical thinkers on this planet is that reality bites! It will always trump fantasy. You cannot just sit back and believe. You have to know. Knowledge! Reality!
October 15th, 2005 at 10:34 pmYou're flowing down a rapid filled river. You are approaching a deadly waterfall. Do you believe that you will survive the tumultuous fall or do you head for the rocky shore and rethink your course of action? George Bush is taking us over the waterfall.
October 15th, 2005 at 11:02 pm#46 Ryan: You drove the nail through with one superior blow with that post. You are so right.
Faith doesn't solve real problems. It just fosters complacency that others you favor will solve them for you.
October 15th, 2005 at 11:05 pmJay---- OW!!! Nice turn of phrase there.
October 15th, 2005 at 11:07 pmThe U.S. can weather the takedown of Karl Rove. In fact it can weather the resignation/impeachment of George Bush.
What it may not manage to weather is the damage that Rove and Bush have been doing to the country, the constitution, the economy, and the world.
October 16th, 2005 at 12:49 amI'm sure the shadowy group, which first put together, the push of neoconservative ideas, who formulated the plans, developed the characters, picked the players and set their own people into place, didn't count on the instability of Herr Bush, or the egos of those they put in to protect and prop him up. Mental illness isn't something you can shut off and on. Nothing cures it and many times, nothing controls it either. Medication works only to a point and in some cases, not only doesn't work, but makes it worse. Add a bit of alcohol, and you've got a 'human nuke'. Maybe he should be worried about country, if Rove takes a header. I'm sure Rove knows where alot of bodies are buried. Start applying the right pressure and there are many there who will sing like a canary.
October 16th, 2005 at 2:47 amMakes you wonder, if Bush didn't have the 'Bush' name would he be some serial killer running loose, making the daily papers?
What is frightening, is how long it's taken so many people to start seeing the truth. Again, how many of us have referred back to Hilter and his rise to infamy, when comparing Bush. The parallels to Hilter's early days, when he inspired the German people, who hearing only his words, became blinded to his actions. Which pretty well sums up Bush. If people had stopped listening to his words and started watching his actions, it was there in plain sight.
This probably explains why many of us, have been screaming for the last 5+years at the rest of the country, because we know words are cheap, but actions speak louder than words.
'There are none so blind, as those who will not see'.
what these guys really mean is it's a shame GOP leaders can't do anything they like and get away with it... between W and chaos I'll take chaos... things would be calmer around here...
October 16th, 2005 at 10:29 amCan our country weather three more years of Bush, Rove, Cheney, Libby, Delay, Frist, Hastert, Abramoff, Perle, Rice, Safavian, Santorum, ... tightly wound up with Robertson, Farewel, Dobson, Reed ... Haliburton ...
October 16th, 2005 at 11:30 amIf I don't read about O'Reilly on TP once a week its one of the other faux news asshats. This is tabloid news, entertainment, your constant comments on their blather only lends them creditability. Granted, over 1 million watch faux news, they have the largest following. This proves two things: 1) People would rather be entertained than educated. 2) 298 million people don't watch faux news. Please resharpen your focus. Thanks
October 16th, 2005 at 11:31 amWill know soon if we can dream of a better country that everyone can trust and be throught of with respect over seas in the other countries.
October 16th, 2005 at 11:33 amPlunger, nice post. Keep this info on the front page. It explains a lot.
October 16th, 2005 at 11:58 am#34
"Good evening mad, nutty libs. I suppose all of you are just beside yourselves with joy because of the witch-hunt that is going in DC."
A witch hunt is where a bunch of people are falsely accused of commiting crimes. That is not what is going on in D.C. These fvckers did it, therefore it is not a witch hunt. And yes, I am fvcking beside myself with joy that these scumbags are finally going down.
#35
"Holy crap. What a bunch of whinny nutty libs. I get a kick out of all of your crying and belly-aching. Fun stuff, indeed."
I don't see any whining, crying or belly-aching going on here. Everybody seems to be in a great mood now that justice is being served. Indict the lot of them. I will be happily watching the court proceedings 24/7. This will be much better than most of the TV programming that is on. I will coin a new phrase: "Important Reality TV" or even better "Reality Based Reality TV"
Stubain, you need to read your post, for it is you who are whining. Now go fvck yourself.
October 16th, 2005 at 12:36 pmIt irks me that progressives keep talking up what O'Reilly says, pointing out his continuously hypocritical statements - It should come as no surprise to anyone that O'Reilly lies, obfuscates, distorts, and covers up for the Bush admin. Like them O'Reilly is also a criminal - as in sexual predator - witness the lawsuit brought against him by one of his employees at Fox news. If you read the transcripts from the trial, which are online, - where his taped phone conversations were entered into evidence - you get the sense that he is practiced at the art of sexual predation - so why do progressive blogs continue to even care what he says - it would be best to give him and his ilk no coverage at all. He will say and do anything to please himself and his masters. So just move on. And that the fact that he and Bill Kristol and tsk tsking over Rove's impending resignation should not be the topic of discussion. What else do you expect them to say.
October 16th, 2005 at 12:37 pm... Right now the neocons are all kneeling , eyes squeezed tightly shut , fervently whispering in their crypts , " I believe in WMDs , I believe in Halliburton , I believe in Bechtel , I believe ... ! " - this is MUCH better than the fall previews , hands down ! ... ;)
October 16th, 2005 at 1:09 pmO’Reilly: Rove Indictment Would Be “Bad For the Countryâ€
These Neo-con apologists are so disgusting. The notion that Rove is being victimized for playing politics instead of the truth which is that he's a ruthless evil criminal. What's bad for the country is the Neo-con slim that runs the...
October 16th, 2005 at 3:45 pmRyan, you seem to be on top of your game today! Nice posts, both #43 and #46.
October 16th, 2005 at 5:02 pmBill O'Reilly is a fool, a bully, and an arch right wing apologist who won't admit it. Fair and balanced my a__! Why is he still on the air? He doesn't care what is good for the country and it is a laugh to hear him say that he does.
October 16th, 2005 at 5:49 pmPlunger,
October 16th, 2005 at 5:55 pmChalabi, Bolton and the Rove fiasco.
Your argument makes sense to me; the pronunciation/spelling of Plame's name is a dead giveaway. I also read a few months ago about a possible connection involving John Bolton. These guys are all in it up to their necks, they have been involved in this kind of work since the days of Reagan if not before.
O'Scumbag/FoxNews has 1 million viewers out of 300 million U.S. citizens.
Brady Bunch reruns have 2 million viewers out of 300 million U.S. citizens.
"Mom always says don't play ball in the house".
October 16th, 2005 at 9:43 pmHey, how about this for a solution? What if Rove "resigns rather than putting th country thru this mess?" Or, maybe Bush could keep his promise and makes Rove "no longer a part of this administration." After all, don't Republicans "put principle above politics." Also, if Bill O'Liely is "fair and balanced," where are all of his misstatments that favor Democrats? To err is human, but to always err on the same side is the definition of bias.
October 17th, 2005 at 9:13 amOk, this is the 6th time I've heard "criminalization of politics"
Give me a damn break...how stupid are the sheep who buy this line of crap? This phrase basically means it's just politics to give up a CIA agent's identity in retaliation for a criticism of this Admin's policies; it's 'normal' to do such a thing because it's in the arena of 'politics.' O'Liely and Krisol Meth are suckups of the worst kind.
October 17th, 2005 at 7:56 pmWas Enron bad for the country ? I think so. Was MCI and Global Crossing bad for the country ? Yep. Was the UK bombings bad for our country ? Sure it was . . . look at the panic in NY when there was a scare. Spain and UK train bombs were "bad for the country" . . our country because of the fear that it instilled. Our President lying under oath about a stain on some girls dress was bad for the country. And having a top White House advisor would be bad for the country. Sad, so sad, that six words from O'Reilly caused this many people (including me) to waste this much time. Drink up - on this website the Kool Aid is free.
October 18th, 2005 at 12:19 pmUpon reading more comments. The Brady Bunch rerun etc. . . If a cable news show beats the next closest every night by 2 or 3 times, what arguement do you really have ? Number 1 cable news show. PERIOD ! I hate American Idol, but there are still millions of idiots that watch that show despite my views.
October 18th, 2005 at 12:22 pmLet's see if I got this ... Rove should be indicted because he reiterated a name to a reporter of a CIA employee who "kinda" was undercover (hadn't been overseas in years) ... and all her personal friends knew she was CIA, knew her name of course (big secret ...ooooh) .... and Rove first learned from a reporter she had sent her dear hubby (an undercover Kerry operative) -- and so Rove should be indicted?
Gee, couldn't he at least get a Sandy Berger deal and just pay a 10K fine, and stuff his pockets with classified info on his way out of the White House?
Phone records ... I want to see Joe Wilson's phone records.
October 19th, 2005 at 7:24 pmTo comment on anything O\'Reilly says, is like criticizing the babbling of a 1 year old. You can\'t take him seriously. Fox is just a propoganda arm of the Repubs and O\'Reilly is doing what any paid servent should do - promote his master\'s agenda. Taking him seriously and commenting on his statements makes it sound like we consider him a normal adult with an opinion.
October 20th, 2005 at 12:22 amDoesn't anyone realize that outing a covert CIA agent is considered treason? And, what is the penalty for treason during wartime? Execution by firing squad! Wouldn't you love to see them frog marching Cheney, Rove, Libby, and anyone else found guilty, out to the Lincoln Memorial and lined up for an execution squad, televised on TV! Highest ratings in history.
October 22nd, 2005 at 4:19 pmO'Liely -- needs to grow a brain. He's afraid that charging someone in this administration with treason is horrible as it may harm the operations of government, and yet he was all for going after Clinton over an extra-martial affair.
This GUY IS A NUTCASE!
October 27th, 2005 at 3:18 pmGod, if only O'Lielly was cornered by a group of Daily Show viewers (me included). It wouldn't be pretty, but I'd grab the popcorn for the outcome.
October 28th, 2005 at 12:56 pmDemocrats can't fight there way out of a paper bag.
November 30th, 2005 at 9:59 pmThere stupid and there liars. (Con men)
We like killing terrorist so leave us alone.
How do you like them apples?
Dearest Bob,
I think it's they're, not there. How do like them apples? Idiot.
February 3rd, 2006 at 12:10 am