UPDATE: Leak Scandal Continues To Grow
Despite the fact that Rove’s attorney, Robert Luskin, claims his client was not part of “any scheme to punish Joe Wilson by disclosing the identity of his wife,” the special prosecutor appears to be exploring the White House’s expansive involvement in manipulating pre-war Iraqi intelligence and their efforts to silence whistle-blowers, like Wilson, who exposed them.
New York Times reporter Judith Miller said that, in her grand jury testimony last week, special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald asked her questions that went beyond the leaking of the CIA name to probe the administration’s selective leaking of intelligence information ahead of the Iraq war.
The scope of administration officials involved in the leak continues to grow, encompassing even the Vice President. The Financial Times reports the White House is bracing itself for the possible indictment of numerous senior officials.
Think Progress has updated its profile of Bush administration officials who have been tied to the leak of an undercover CIA agent’s identity.
It has been updated to reflect recent developments, including:
- the number of Bush officials involved in the leak has grown from 21 to 23, incorporating reporting this morning that former Cheney spokeswoman Jennifer Millerwise and current National Security spokesman Jim Wilkinson have been questioned in the leak investigation
- Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice admitted that she has been cooperating with the federal investigation
- and other developments including the fact that Scooter Libby and Judy Miller talked about Plame’s identity at least three times prior to Novak’s outing of her
Click here to see our updated profile.
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if cheney gets snared in fitz’s net, i wonder what will happen to the administration… i know what i would LIKE to happen but i wonder what would actually happen…
http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/ 2005/ 10/ fitz-takes-look-at-uncle-dick.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/ apps/ news?pid=10000087&sid=aSuj1d8CcYAk&refer=top_world_news
October 17th, 2005 at 1:23 pmIf one official blurted Valerie Plame’s name to a reporter, that’s a leak. If ~23 senior administration officials coordinated to broadcast Valerie Plame’s name to reporters and pundits, that’s a deliberate administration policy to expose a NOC, reveal intelligence assets, and compromise national security.
October 17th, 2005 at 1:41 pmThe good thing is, the Republicans can’t complain about the widening scope of the investigation without looking like utter hypocrites. After all, Ken Starr’s set a wee bit of a precedent for this sort of thing.
The bad news is, the Republicans probably don’t mind looking like utter hypocrites.
October 17th, 2005 at 1:42 pmThis admin. couldn’t carry Pat’s jock-strap.
October 17th, 2005 at 1:47 pmA stud among men he is.
It’ll all be exposed.
Next up, war crimes against the pigs.
How about an updated profile on the media figures implicated so far?
-Judy Miller
October 17th, 2005 at 1:47 pm-Bob Novak
-Tim Russert
-Andrea Mitchell
-Chris Matthews
-Matt Cooper
-Walter Pincus
-Mary Matalin (a two-fer)
-others?
You hear that? It’s the sound of the NEOCON empire’s death star exploding.
Music to my ears. Live free or die my liberal jedi brothers!
October 17th, 2005 at 1:49 pmFritz knows this stuff is going public.
October 17th, 2005 at 1:57 pmAccording to this conservative humor site the grand jury probe is narrowing, not expanding (from http://www.scrappleface.com):
“Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald, who has devoted two years to investigating who leaked the name of CIA operative Valerie Wilson, has reportedly narrowed his probe in the past week to focus on who unmasked a covert blogging operation at The New York Times.
“Bloggers, the generally cranky, rumor-mongering pseudo pundits who lack editorial oversight, expressed shock this week to learn that The New York Times itself had secretly employed former reporter Judith Miller as a blogger who operated behind the facade of the Times’ masthead.
“As word of the reporter’s secret mission began to trickle from the newsroom, the paper yesterday was forced to ‘out’ itself in a nearly 6,000-word piece that fanned the flame of controversy surrounding Ms. Miller’s covert activities.
“According to the article, the formerly-respected journalist had allegedly been doing whatever she wanted at the Times, much to the annoyance of her colleagues, without submitting to the controlling influence of editors.
“Editorial oversight, experts say, is the key distinction between journalists and bloggers.
“Mr. Fitzgerald will now reportedly seek a warrant to search Ms. Miller’s home and office in an attempt to confirm her blogger status before pursuing the source of the leak.
“One unnamed Justice Department official said, ‘If they find a computer and a pair of pajamas in this same room, Fitzgerald will have all he needs to establish intent to blog.’
“The journalist who first revealed Valerie Wilson’s CIA employment, columnist Robert Novak, remains at large.”
The revelation of Valerie Plame Wilson’s CIA employment, and her role in setting up Joe Wilson’s “mission to Niger,” is obviously of the utmost importance to the survival of the Republic. That mus be why “Think Progress” has so many posts on that topic, and none at all on the relatively peaceful vote to approve the Iraqi constitution.
October 17th, 2005 at 2:22 pmI think it would be a very good idea if Mr. Fitzgerald would subpoena Matt Drudge.
At the very same time that the Bush Administration were smearing Joe Wilson, they were also attacking ABC reporter Jeffrey Kofman’s sexuality and nationality because he wrote a story that was troubling to the administration.
These two attacks originated from the same source at the same time.
“After the (Kofman’s) piece ran, Matt Drudge says he got a call from a White House aide who anonymously leaked the inflammatory secret that Kofman is (young readers, please do not continue)…Canadian. A Canuck, reporting on our boys? I never…Oh yeah, the leaker also disclosed that Kofman is gay.†from CBS: “George W. Nixonâ€
http://www.cbsnews.com/ stories/ 2003/ 07/ 24/ opinion/ meyer/ main564891.shtml
“Yesterday Drudge told us he was unaware of the ABC story until “someone from the White House communications shop tipped me to it” along with a profile of Kofman in the gay-oriented magazine the Advocate.†From Wash Post: “Drudging Up Personal Attacksâ€
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ ac2/ wp-dyn/ A8158-2003Jul17?language=printer
If Fitzgerald can get Drudge’s testimony as to who from the White House called him, and then subpoena that person, it would go a long way in establishing a pattern and a conspiracy.
October 17th, 2005 at 2:32 pmI would love to see the day when someone in this administration comes out with a book (of course) admitting that the Plame/Wilson outing was an all out effort by the White House to smear Joe Wilson and destroy his wife’s career because he pissed them off and made them look bad. Just admit it…
October 17th, 2005 at 2:33 pmI didn’t see John Bolton’s name on your list. Although he wasn’t a member of the WHite House Iraq Group (WHIG), he played a big part in the conspiracy to falsify the justification for war. He tried without success to discredit Hans Blitz, chief weapons inspector, and El Baradei, head of the IAEA. Why did he attempt to have them replaced? Because they were beginning to expose the WHIG lies and disinformation; therefore, they were a threat and had to be confronted. Also, there are two other individuals who are in jeopardy of being indicted for conspiracy and obstruction of justice. They are former Representative Porter Goss and Senator Pat Roberts (KS). They did everything they could to promote the WHIG’s rationale for war in their respective congressional bodies. Also, after WMD’s were disproven, they eagerly blocked any inquiries and successfully redirected blame away from the WHIG to the CIA over the objections of Democrats. They need to answer a lot of questions.
October 17th, 2005 at 2:35 pmBS Red writes:
The revelation of Valerie Plame Wilson’s CIA employment, and her role in setting up Joe Wilson’s “mission to Niger,†is obviously of the utmost importance to the survival of the Republic. That mus be why “Think Progress†has so many posts on that topic, and none at all on the relatively peaceful vote to approve the Iraqi constitution.
Well, let’s see… our own government wields tremendous power. So exposing and prosecuting officials who illegally misuse their authority to carry out petty vendettas against those who have exposed their misconduct is important.
The installed Iraqi government has no real power. Power in Iraq is held by the occupying military forces and the people in Washington who give them their orders. Case in point, both the Iraqi government and the Iraqi general public have made it clear they want those military forces out of their country, but still those forces remain. The formation of a government that is just for show and has no real authority is of little importance.
October 17th, 2005 at 2:40 pm“…Rove’s attorney, Robert Luskin, claims his client was not part of ‘any scheme to punish Joe Wilson by disclosing the identity of his wife,’ ….”
OK, I’ll admit that I’m not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I’ve been wondering for months now how stating that Wilson’s wife worked at the CIA could “punish” or “discredit” him.
Before anyone flames me, I’m not excusing what is alleged to have been done by anybody. I’m just confused by the concept if Wilson writes an op-ed critical of the Bush administration then administration officials think that telling a reporter that his wife works at the CIA somehow reduces the credibility of the article.
What difference does it make (with regard to the credibility of his op-ed) what job his wife has? Similarly, how does this information somehow “punish” Wilson? His wife is still able to continue doing the same job she was doing for the past several years. If anything she is now “fire-proof”. No Democratic administration would fire her and no Republican administration could get away with it.
Perhaps I’m dense, but it I think any high school student could come with a better punishment - if that was what the Bush administration was trying to do. Surely this is not the best effort that Karl Rove could devise.
What am I missing?
October 17th, 2005 at 2:42 pmWhat difference does it make (with regard to the credibility of his op-ed) what job his wife has? Similarly, how does this information somehow “punish†Wilson? His wife is still able to continue doing the same job she was doing for the past several years.
Um, no she can’t. The point of deep cover is that people don’t know you’re associated with the group you’re really associated with (in this case, the CIA). Exposing her as an agent means that sources will no longer tell her anything, and puts those that already have at risk for their lives.
October 17th, 2005 at 2:46 pmOf course Luskin can say that there wasn’t “any scheme to punish Joe Wilson by disclosing the identity of his wife.” Outing Valerie Plame Wilson wasn’t a scheme to punish Joe Wilson, it was a scheme to make sure that no one else in the CIA or connected to the CIA would reveal anything more. It wasn’t punishment, it was a threat — it was a “look here, we just outted a NOC and her front company, and everybody who ever used that front company as cover, so you know we’re serious [seriously nuts] — if anyone else in Langley has any thoughts about exposing the rest of our lies, just remember that we think nothing of taking down you and everyone you work with or had as a contact.”
It’s not the Mayberry Machiavellis — it’s the Mayberry Corleone’s! (”Awful nice intelligence gathering network you’ve got going here, it would be a shame — a real shame — if anything were to happen to it. You know it was such a shame when that accident happened to Valerie Plame’s network; would be such a shame if something happened to yours.”)
October 17th, 2005 at 2:52 pm“, and none at all on the relatively peaceful vote to approve the Iraqi constitution. BullShitRepublican-BSR”
Would that be the same constitution that creates an islamic republic that looks suspiciously like Iran’s? Would THAT be the republic you were referring to? Get a clue you dope!
October 17th, 2005 at 2:55 pmOne more thing in response to #14 — Valerie Plame cannot continue with the same job she had before she was outted. Prior to Novak’s column, to the rest of the world, she worked for a company called Brewster Jennings. Even though she had been at a desk at Langley for a couple of years, to the rest of the world, that just meant that she was working at Brewster Jennings’ corporate HQ in northern Virginia. That was her “non-official cover” — and the NOC for dozens of other operatives and analysts.
After Novak’s column, Plame’s NOC and the NOC of every “Brewster Jennings” employee was eliminated. They can continue at the CIA as analysts of information obtained by others, but their ability to gather new intelligence — to go on “business” trips and meet with “clients” — was finished.
So, as I said above, I agree that this wasn’t punishment of Wilson. It was punishment of his wife; but more importantly it was like shooting a hostage as a threat to the rest of the hostages.
October 17th, 2005 at 3:05 pmThe difference between the Iraq constitution vote and the details of the Plame-leak investigation is that the White House has already purchased plenty of air time on major network TV to make sure images of poll workers counting votes by flashlight (the bad guys knocked out the power) are shown on the news every night. The Plame leak would not recieve the same attention if non-MSM types were’t paying attention.
October 17th, 2005 at 3:24 pmThere’s a dangerous sentiment that it’s okay to expose CIA agents if you’re team is winning. This is the truly disturbing part of BSR’s comments (and others). It’s this attitude that will result in violence here at home.
October 17th, 2005 at 3:25 pmBSR,
Where was all of your republican patriotism when Clinton was president? You are a patriot of convenience, and a traitor by choice!
“But before we get deeper embroiled into this Balkan quagmire…President Clinton has never explained to the American people why he was involving the U.S. military in a civil war in a sovereign nation, other than to say it is for humanitarian reasons, a new military/foreign policy precedent…Was it worth it to stay in Vietnam to save face?”
–Rep Tom Delay (R-TX)
Senator Judd Gregg (R-NH): “I don’t believe that a ground war in Kosovo using American troops is going to be very successful.†[NBC, “Meet the Press,†4/18/99]
Representative Randy “Duke†Cunningham (R-CA): “This is the most inept foreign policy in the history of the United States.â€
April 5, 1999 — USA Today quoted Senator Richard Shelby (R AL), as saying, “Obviously, we are not winning the war.
Many further GOP quotes are available at http://www.democrats.org/pdfs/gop_kosovo.pdf
October 17th, 2005 at 4:31 pmBSR…just another unpaid cog in the Republican Syndicate’s smear machine.
It’s OK to commit treason and derail a whole CIA program devoted to tracking WMD in terrorist hands…as long as it furthers the Republican political cause at home. Odd how this administration can be sending American soldiers to their deaths in their so-called WOT, while outing key CIA intelligence officials who were actually on the frontlines on the real War on Terror….tracking the terrorists who are trying to acquire WMD. Not to mention the Al Qaeda ties the Republican Party has through Abramoff.
“Abramoff Scandal Links GOP to Islamic Banks and Tyco Scandal”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/ discuss/ duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5081800&mesg_id=5081800
Why does BSR and his ilk support these treasonous bastards controlling our government? Why do they hate this country so much? I can understand those that sell out because they find it lucrative to do so, but why unpaid stooges who post at TP? Talk about being naive.
October 17th, 2005 at 4:59 pmre: #15 and #16
Were Ms. Plame an “agent” in the sense of being covert I would agree wholeheartedly with you. The problem with that line of thought is that no one has made a credible case that she was a covert agent.
Very few CIA employees are covert agents. Heck, I know a former CIA employee who was stationed overseas and he wasn’t covert.
I haven’t seen any credible evidence that Ms. Plame was a covert “agent” at the time Mr. Novak’s story broke or even in the years preceding that story. In fact there has been lots of evidence to the contrary.
At the time of Mr. Novak’s story, Ms. Plame was essentially working as an analyst. Why can she not continue to do so?
October 17th, 2005 at 5:04 pmRyan, another trolls put in his place - I love it. They are truly easy these days. It’s like child’s play anymore. I sure hope there are many on-the-fencers that come here to peruse. To the average citizen who has yet to become truly involved in politics, this is really enlightening.
October 17th, 2005 at 5:19 pmThanks for putting this up here. It once again shows why ThinkProgress is one of the sites I link to the most from my site. You guys do a great job here.
October 17th, 2005 at 6:43 pmPlame was CIA and working undercover at a firm called Bennett something, I have forgotten the whole name.
By exposing her as an undercover agent and spelling out the firm she was working for, they have damaged that firm so that they can no longer operate.
Foreign agents will recall her name, recall who introducted her to them, and do away with thos contacts.
It goes on and on and you people refuse to see the damage this has done to our security apparatus.
The company was blown and had to shut down. The CIA had worked for years to build that company up and staff it. Now, not only Plame, but all the agents that worked there are blown.
Why dont you pukes think before you blow gas out of your Gannon hole?
October 17th, 2005 at 8:13 pmYou are right, Pablo. (Brewster-Jennings) But the Bush-lovers here can’t see how damaging this was and how stupid they are not to see it.
October 17th, 2005 at 9:25 pmDear Sir,
October 17th, 2005 at 9:30 pmAll of these people should be exconmunicated and put in Jail for the rest of their life and executed for the wrongs they have done against humanity.
Dependinding on the amount of the crime that they have done the justice should suit.
Where is Elliot Abrams’ place on the list? Rumor (or fact) has it that his name has come up in the Plame case. We are not surprised; this is the man who, while Assistant Secretary of State for Human Rights and Humanitarian Affairs, covered up human rights violations in Honduras and Nicaragua. One of his partners in crime, Otto Reich, was censured by a House Committe for “prohibited, covert propaganda activities.” Abrams pleaded guilty in open court to withholding information from Congress. Now he’s the Director of the National Security Council’s Office for Democracy, Human Rights, and International Operations. Disaster waiting to happen?
October 17th, 2005 at 10:11 pm[…] Think Progress has the latest on the CIA/Plame leak, including profile on all 23 White House officials who have been tied to the investigation. […]
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“If anyone in this administration was INVOLVED in it, they would no longer be in this administration.”
Better call up the printing office, looks like George will need 23 pink slips.
October 18th, 2005 at 6:09 pmYes, update on #6 list should include drudge, limbaugh, and of course, joe/jeff/gannon… UGH.
Just because they aren’t listed as interviewed by the grand jury, does it also mean that they weren’t interviewed by Fitz or his staff? Little clues lead to bigger ones…
I think the congress should get rid of the whole bunch of them for a VERY long time. Lock them up in one of the jails that is in the direct path of Wilma.
October 18th, 2005 at 9:16 pmOh yes, lets not forget to add to the list of poetential indictees, two of my favorites: Rummy and Ari Fleitcher… they deserve some scrutiny too…
October 18th, 2005 at 9:35 pm21 to 23 names! That is amazing. Could they all be served on the same day? Will they take them out all attached to one long chain running through their hand cuffs?
Something tells me that, still, nothing will come of it. It takes more than guilt to get punished. Rove could prove to be soo slippery.
http://www.freesqueeze.com/karlrove.htm
October 19th, 2005 at 12:42 am21-23 names….come over to http://plamegatetimeline.blogspot.com/,
October 24th, 2005 at 12:05 amwe have it all timelined out….and come over to http://watergatesummer.blogspot.com/, we have some interesting information about the whole Plame situation…I come hear often , thanks heavens for the blogs- or the media would be lost…
My prediction: Mr. Rove’s nickname in prison will be “Porky”
October 25th, 2005 at 2:02 pmMichael Ledeen isn’t on the list. I suppose this is correct if you narrowly scope the scandle to the revealing Plame’s name. I don’t think Fitzgerald’s investigation is so narrowly scoped.
October 26th, 2005 at 10:05 pmlibby, rove, hadley and cheney. and this opens the door for the next part of the investigation. anyone know what laws pertain to the potential crimes involved in, false war, perjury to congress, the italian forgeries if applicable and the other things that are involved here? there must be some legal minds that are starting this type of a graph?
October 27th, 2005 at 8:54 pm#17, perhaps the most elequent description of the threat the administration is making to every covert agent in our government, shut up or we out you too.
October 27th, 2005 at 9:04 pmthis is the second most disturbing aspect to this. a phony war, and anyone that talks….. this is probably why fewer people have stepped up. most of us understand your fear. war is hell. so is this.
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November 5th, 2005 at 4:18 ammodulator,addressable descents buoys.ringingly:unilluminating?commonplaces?…
November 9th, 2005 at 11:24 pmQuinn:imminently.incredulously smilingly,laborers!Baxter:
November 12th, 2005 at 4:37 pmillusions.bursty bleary sinusoidal Walcott Fuji …
November 20th, 2005 at 1:21 amgrassed,reestablished madam!authenticating?grenades Germanic Janeiro uneventful Chatham
November 20th, 2005 at 7:31 pmfailed offing:multilayered individual subprocesses Eiffel sprang
December 29th, 2005 at 9:25 pmtom the barbarian is obviously clueless, val is now “retired” from her job..and when are we going to see massive arrests???
the Bush crime family must be put in jail now or more atrocities will happen. And why hasn’t anyone mentioned that AIPAC- a zionist criminal gang “lobbied” about everyone in the house and senate to go to war..follow that money and there will be hundreds of arrests.
check out: prisonplanet.com and infowars.com
January 11th, 2006 at 2:23 pmI am quite concerned with the creative and focused character assasination that flies from the minds and mouths of our Democratic Party
No one is taking us seriously, well…except ourselves…is this circular retoric?
Sure, outwardly people say they support us. Inwardly they are saying, keep your distance this is getting ugly.
Hate will not help us. Unless our desire is to loose.
January 13th, 2006 at 9:51 pmThey all got memos from CIA/Plame. The memos leaks, etc. started right after Plame complained.
The war was used by CIA Plame/Wilson to get rid of covert CIA WMD policy blamed on Rice, then complain about the war.
January 19th, 2006 at 11:41 pmThe Bush speech was the ending of the set up.
Bush is up to his eyeballs in this and you left out one very important peice of information which, when it ocurred proved that Bush was involved in this from the beginning and was guilty of both obstruction of justice,conspiracy to obstruct justice and probably conspiracy to violate the covert agent identity act.
In a cabinet meeting with reporters present Bush was asked an off the cuff question about the leak and who the leakers were ( this was sometime in ‘03). Bush’s reply? “I dont think we’ll ever find out who the leakers were”.
I cant imagine a more self-serving statement. First, it indicated someone who wasnt actively trying to find out who the leakers were. I mean, this guy IS the President and he didnt seem to think he’d be able to do it.
Second, it indicated someone who didnt care and who would just as soon not have the leakers identities revealed.
Third, when you apply reality to the situation you see how absurd Bush’s remark is which proves he’s involved in a cover-up. The reality is the people involved in the leak all worked in the White House. They all had high enough security clearances to have been privy to the information. And they were all high enough in the administration and had enough credibility so they could pick up a phone and call the likes the Robert Novack,Andrea Mitchell,and 5 Washington Post reporters and expect to be believed. Not exactly the DC sniper investigation.
Laying the simplest investigative set of criteria as a starting point, namely who had the means, motive and opportunity, there werent 10 people in the White House that could have been the leakers. Bush could have found out who they were if he wanted to, and the evidence even at the time was that he already knew. His statement, “I dont think we’ll ever find out who the leakers are” was as weak and as lame as his response to Katrina. Only this time its going to be Bush thats going to drown.
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March 17th, 2006 at 9:15 pmSteven Hadley or Stephen Hadley as he is now known after he changed his name for stealing 1.1 million dollars is working in the White House. How many others changed their names and have gotten a job, is a record required to do the dirty deed for BushCo.?
March 30th, 2006 at 1:41 pmColin Powell wanted the Pres. to clean the hideous garbage in his administration after
April 2nd, 2006 at 9:36 amchecking into WMD intel (he knew Wilson from Sr.’s admin as a patriot). He had no
part in this outing of Plame, but knows how and why it was done.
We need to get to the bottom of this crime. We should therefore send Cheney, Bush, et. al. to Gitmo and use interrogation techniques on them that they themselves insist are not torture until they tell us the truth about their crimes and how many others are involved and thus due for a waterboarding.
April 12th, 2006 at 2:26 pmThe Plame scandal is treason. George H.W. Bush has even stated that “I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who betray the trust by exposing the name of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors.†[George H.W. Bush, Speech at CIA, 4/26/99. So H.W.’s son’s administration leaks the name of Valerie Plame. Either they are grosstesquely incompetent or have PROFOUND retardation within this administration.
April 21st, 2006 at 3:13 pmWe continue to see more and more evidence for the fact that the lies that were told were part of a strategy to deceive. On April 17, 2006, Jason Leopold described U.S. State Dept. memos sent to the CIA sixteen days prior to Bush’s 2003 State of the Union Address where he said Saddam Hussein was seeking uranium from Africa. The memos warned the CIA that the documents on which this remark were based were fakes. So they had this information in writing in time to delete the famous 16 words from the SOU and they didn’t delete them.
Leopold talks about the State Department memos in a Talk Nation Radio interview April 19, 2006. He said: “–You know the memo is about six pages and when I read it I have to say that it blew my mind in terms of like wow, how can the White House, how can the Bush administration actually say that they did not see this. It’s clear that the State Department and the CIA were both in the know and were really trying to do their best to warn the White House, don’t use this. Because it seems as if they were trying to warn them because the White House kept saying, we’re going to use this. “
When we think not only of the famous 16 word lie about the Niger documents, but of the much broader lie of the need to invade Iraq in 2003, we have to ask ourselves the key question of what next? What is our responsibility now as citizens and how should we exercise it?
One of the reasons that I like to come to Think Progress is that there is an emphasis here on documenting media failures, and that is where my choice to exercise my responsibility has been made. I feel very strongly that we have to do all that we can to start a national conversation going about how to remove this administration from office, hold them accountable, and act swiftly to right the wrongs they committed and engage in damage control.
This one challenge to the media invites people from various walks of life and various backgrounds to do something about any of the emergencies they see as crucial to take on such as global warming, the economy, education, health care, jobs, or security. All of these areas of concern have been deeply affected by the profound crisis we face in U.S. media.
April 23rd, 2006 at 11:13 amTOMB….. Plame was working on nuclear proliferation in Iran. which begs the question if we want Iran to put nuclear proliferation on back burner why OUT someone who is working to do that?
April 30th, 2006 at 4:08 pmI AM OUTRAGED, HEAR ME ROAR: GET ‘EM OUT and INTO PRISON…
May 30th, 2006 at 8:19 pmWhat do most of the people here have against doing research? Plame wasn’t undercover since the late 90’s, when Russia “outed” her; then she had a desk job.
She outed herself during the Algore election loss, when she used her real name on a ballot, and gave the name of the CIA company she was working for. Her husband also outed her numerous times by introducing her at at least two parties as his “CIA wife.”
When the charges were made, she wasn’t undercover for over 6 1/2 years, and the statute of limitations is 5 years.
One of the judges who wrote the law protecting covert agents, said no law was broken.
I realize that it’s easier to just run with a theory without doing any serious investigation… especially when it matches what you wish to be true. So sad.
I wish I had seen this site (if it was here) during the 8 years of the ex-administration. I can only wonder what most here would think of ex-president Pantload being the highest placed spy in American history; you know…. the one who sold our entire patent database to the Red Chinese, including 40 years of nuclear technology, and missile technology. So sad!!!
July 8th, 2006 at 2:42 amWhat do most of the people here have against doing research? Plame wasn’t undercover since the late 90’s, when Russia “outed” her; then she had a desk job.
She outed herself during the Algore election loss, when she used her real name on a ballot, and gave the name of the CIA company she was working for. Her husband also outed her numerous times by introducing her at at least two parties as his “CIA wife.”
When the charges were made, she wasn’t undercover for over 6 1/2 years, and the statute of limitations is 5 years.
One of the judges who wrote the law protecting covert agents, said no law was broken.
I realize that it’s easier to just run with a theory without doing any serious investigation… especially when it matches what you wish to be true. So sad.
I wish I had seen this site (if it was here) during the 8 years of the ex-administration. I can only wonder what most here would think of ex-president Pantload being the highest placed spy in American history; you know…. the one who sold our entire patent database to the Red Chinese, including 40 years of nuclear technology, and missile technology. So sad!!!
“…. to do something about any of the emergencies they see as crucial to take on such as global warming, the economy, education, health care, jobs….”
REPLY: Global warming is caused by extra solar activity and water vapor:
July 8th, 2006 at 2:48 amThe economy is going through the roof;
The liberal changes to the public school systems over the past 35 years has failed; get rid of the teachers unions and the Department of Education; no calculators allowed untill one gets to the calculus stage; burn all the books used to teach for the past 30 years, and get back to quality education.
That list is a rogue’s gallery of American political gangsters of the early 21st century.
July 21st, 2006 at 10:02 pmI find it amusing that the Democrats are feigning horror that Plame was “exposed.”
July 22nd, 2006 at 10:48 pmI’d like to know how it’s possible to “expose” someone who isn’t an operative in the first place. Plame wasn’t a spy. She wasn’t even an intelligent observer. Her job was to sit on her butt at a desk in Langley . Does anyone really believe that Plame’s usefullness was in any way diminished by telling someone that she had been doing some observations? If so, how so?
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