I don’t think Cheney would go down without a fight. I hate this scumbag more than anybody, but I just can’t believe he would just flat out resign. He is way too into himself to do that.
And NeD, you are a freak dude. Condi for President? You can’t be serious. I mean come on. Is that because she is the only one without a criminal investigation (oops Plamegate) or because she was Johnny on the Spot during Katrina (oops shoe shopping at Prada). What quailifications does Condi have?
The “knees” finally give out? I predicted Chaney would be the one to take the hit - he’d never spend time in jail with a heart condition. Perhaps this is why he was absent from Katrina - looking for a good crony-supported haven to do home detention in. Maybe he’ll found a shelter - for displaced victims of the “criminalization of politics” - Call it “The Spiro Agnew Home For The Congenitally Corrupt”.
Apart from the fact that Rice just said over the weekend that she didn’t want to be President (what she really wants is to be NFL Commish), I can just see her campaigning in South Carolina, Alabama, Missississiissppii…
Spudge - Condi is more qualified than Hillary. AND the fact that you guys hate her makes her even more appealing to centrist voters who re-elected Bush.
A nigra girl in the White House? You Yankees serious? its the WHITE House. Just when that there Civil Rights Act made us good old boys switch to that their party of Lincoln, they wnat to put a what in the WHITE HOUSE?Damn, I just rolled over in my grave..
Really, what elected office has she ever held? Is this the same Condi who didn’t know the meaning of the memo titled ““Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States.—. Yeah, that’s her…
NEDelusional strikes again - the stupidest things come from that girl’s keyboard!
” AND the fact that you guys hate her makes her even more appealing to centrist voters who re-elected Bush.”
Good, put her out there. Last survey says 65% of americans want a change. Bring it on girlfriend!
Did you ever respond as to why all of the republican congressmen felt it was OK to attack Clinton when we were at war with Kosovo - yet you now say this is harming the troops? Is there some magic spell republicans incant before their goddess that permits them to be hypocrites? Or is it just that you’re a stupid little girl? I bet the second.
When did I bring up Hillary in my post? I don’t ever remember saying Hillary or Clinton.
Let’s see:
“There is no freaking way!
I don’t think Cheney would go down without a fight. I hate this scumbag more than anybody, but I just can’t believe he would just flat out resign. He is way too into himself to do that.
And NeD, you are a freak dude. Condi for President? You can’t be serious. I mean come on. Is that because she is the only one without a criminal investigation (oops Plamegate) or because she was Johnny on the Spot during Katrina (oops shoe shopping at Prada). What quailifications does Condi have?”
Nope, I never said anything about Hillary. What I did ask was what quliafications Condi has. Can you not answer that question?
IF this juicy rumor is true, it would be likely that Rice would be put in Cheney’s place and thereby set her up for a run in 2008 as president. If THAT were to happen, she would be slaughtered in the campaign as all her lies would come back to haunt her.
Not to mention all the Republicans who are not only racially bigoted, but anti-feminine as well.
Well, let’s hope that he will be convicted and put behind bars. And for those who believe Bush will Pardon him, he can’t.
Here is what the law says about that:
Sec. 1.2 Eligibility for filing petition for pardon.
No petition for pardon should be filed until the expiration of a waiting period of at least five years after the date of the release of the petitioner from confinement or, in case no prison sentence was imposed, until the expiration of a period of at least five years after the date of the conviction of the petitioner. Generally, no petition should be submitted by a person who is on probation, parole, or supervised release.
So since by law you have to file for a pardon, he should not be eligible for pardon by Bush. However, we all know that this administration may find a way to get around this small legal issue.
Was that the same person who was touted as having a PHD on russian studies, yet who’s PHD wasn’t even on the russians? Then again she didn’t know that a memo entitled Bin Laden intends to strike inside america meant he was going to attack us - so hey, what’s a girl gonna do?
The title of Condi’s PHD: “The Politics Of Client Command Party-Military Relations In Czechoslovakia : 1948-1975″
So much for the theory that she’s a russian expert - instead she’s an expert on a country that is no longer a communist state - wow, what ‘big lie’ - one of the many from the reichwing spin machine.
Okay, I have a question. Isn’t the succession President, VP and then Speaker of the House? Wouldn’t Hastert get the gig? The president doesn’t appoint a successor, does he? This is a constitutional issue, right?
I know this isn’t germane, but I was researching an article I’m currently writing, and I came across this gem (from Little Green Footballs) which I think demonstrates that conservatives don’t think much before they speak:
wednesday, august 31, 2005
8:46 AM PDT
#43 Free Speech Is Only For über-Libs 8/31/2005 09:11AM PDT
it’s August. All presidents take time off in August.
Clinton played golf, too… but that was okay. George Bush enjoying a game is just wrong. Right, liberals?
#36 - I’m willing to wait for Fitzgerald to put some facts on the table, indictments or otherwise. I don’t trust the US press to do anything other than look for sensation and that’s all I see here.
“I’m fighting for whitie! He trusts ME on the FRONT LINES!!”
“I play piano!”
“I like football!”
“I’m about as black as a sanitary napkin!”
“I fit into absolutely no USA demographic whatsoever!”
Backroom deals going on RIGHT NOW:…”Ok GW, I’ll give you 43.6% of my hallieburdon, my car, my dog, NOW will you PARDON ME when the time comes??????…..”you sure got a purddy …..there dickie…
If the VP leaves the office the President has to appoint on and the Senate gets to confirm. When Agnew had to quit Nixon did not replace him before he had to leave office so Ford became president because he was speaker of the house. It Cheney leaves Bush will have to appoint a new VP.
NeD, are you on dope? Condi? No way you pack of racists would ever vote for any African American, much less a woman. Repubs are facist racists and that is the ONLY thing we can count on from you.
“…Nixon denied any personal involvement, but the courts forced him to yield tape recordings which indicated that he had, in fact, tried to divert the investigation.
As a result of unrelated scandals in Maryland, Vice President Spiro T. Agnew resigned in 1973. Nixon nominated, and Congress approved, House Minority Leader Gerald R. Ford as Vice President.
Faced with what seemed almost certain impeachment, Nixon announced on August 8, 1974, that he would resign…”
“When Gerald R. Ford took the oath of office on August 9, 1974, he declared, “I assume the Presidency under extraordinary circumstances…. This is an hour of history that troubles our minds and hurts our hearts.”
It was indeed an unprecedented time. He had been the first Vice President chosen under the terms of the Twenty-fifth Amendment and, in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal, was succeeding the first President ever to resign…
…His nominee for Vice President, former Governor Nelson Rockefeller of New York, was the second person to fill that office by appointment…”
If Cheney leaves, he gets that mansion in New England he was shopping for during Katrina and cashes out the Halliburon options at 3,000% profit. I’m sure he’d like to have a few years of Croesus-like self-indulgence before he finally cacks…and Satan stops by to collect on that contract.
And Condi as VP? Perfect! She can take over when George is impeached, and still have time to prove what an overrated talent she is prior to 2008.
I say Godspeed, Dick Cheney! Take one for the team, today!
So true. Evil just seeps out of the man. This is just too good to be true, Dick Cheney is the man behind the curtain, the true president and the most powerful man on earth as of today. NO CHANCE he goes down alone, he’ll be taking every last mf%^&ing one of them down too. My heart sings at the prospect.
Cheney’s set, and he damn sure ain’t going to the Big House…no matter who he has to finger. Plus, he’s smart enough not to assume that Chimpy will be around long enough to pardon him.
Every “Undisclosed Location” has an escape hatch, and Big Time’s bags are packed.
Care to tell us what Condi’s qualifications are finally? I asked a simple question, so you can give a simple answer. That answer doesn’t need to include anything relating to Hillary, because she is not part of the question. The question is simply what are her qualifications?
“Brian - that is a repugnant statement. You show liberals for the bigots they are. Sad.
Comment by The Northeast Dilemma”
Actually Bill Bennett has done a masterful job of showing which party is full of bigots. But then again, your war on poor minorities made that clear years ago. That’s why ONLY 2% OF AFRICAN AMERICANS APPROVE OF BUSH. Once again - who’s a bigot? NED’s a bigot! Condi hates the fact she’s black - that’s clear. How many black friends have you ever seen her with? How many black people does she even know? I bet I have more black friends than she does!
Spudge - she’s Secretary of State, former national sec advisor and she has a wealth of knowledge on foreign policy affairs. I think she’d be great. Not nearly divisive as Hillary (or any Democrat for that matter).
NED never thought about it, and she’s busy looking on the freeper and other reichwing sites to see if there’s an answer. Clearly she’s incapable of thinking for herself, and everything she posts is trite, and non-rational. Poor thing, what a sad little puss bag she must really be to be so full of hate and ignorance in the same package! Feel pity for the little worm - not anger - she doesn’t rise to the level of deserving anything but pity!
“she’s Secretary of State, former national sec advisor and she has a wealth of knowledge on foreign policy affairs. I think she’d be great. Not nearly divisive as Hillary (or any Democrat for that matter).”
Appointed and not elected positions. Not to mention that in both roles she’s been nothing but an utter failures. Most foreign countries not only despise this administration - but they believe us to be inept because of Ms. Rice. If you wish to further our worldwide agenda, then putting yet another inept failure in as president is clearly the wrong direction! Then again, as an inept failure yourself, clearly you personally identify with Ms. Rice!
“Ryan - chill. You need help. Get some soon or it will be a long three years for you.
Comment by The Northeast Dilemma”
Bahaha, funny, I was about to tell you the same thing! I’m not the one posting on a website dedicated to my enemy. Clearly your world is so shattered you can’t even stand your own kind. You have to come HERE to have your little girl voice heard. How SAD you are miss thang!
Bahahaha.
I’m quite satisfied with the fact that 65% of americans say YOU’RE WRONG - that restores much of my faith in the american public, and clearly shows you are not only out of step with american values - but you’re delusional in the entire process. What a mentally ill little worm you are miss thang!
Wow NeD, you sure have a hang up with Hillary don’t you. You can’t help but say that Condi’s qualifications are that she is better than Hillary. That is not a good reason for anybody to vote for anybody.
I can say vote for me, I haven’t been indicted for anything. That makes me a better candidate than half the republican party.
NeD continually proves his ignorance and is so misguided that he will actually post it here for all to see as if it makes him look smart. Are you trying to look smart for us NeD? Do you want us to like you? Or, do you like that we don’t?
Trolls are getting stranger as their party disintegrates. That’s a setup, NeD. C’mon show us what you have up that skinny little sleeve of yours.
I can’t tell anymore what NeD’s deal is. He rambles stupid crap all day long here. He clearly has no one. Like you say, Ryan, he comes here as we are the only ones who will listen to his drivel.
Ain’t that somethin’ NeD? Amazing!!! You hate us so much and call us all sorts of names, yet, when you are lonely and no one wants you, it is US that you rely upon. That’s what we progressives do for the less fortunate, we listen and try to teach. Unfortunately, intelligence isn’t learned and ignorance must be admitted to be overcome.
I just don’t get the whole troll mentality. I am a huge PlayStation fan. I don’t own an Xbox. I go to PlayStation sites and post about stuff, but I don’t go to Xbox sites and post. Because that would make me a troll.
Why do you think the trolls come here? What do they gain. I have had conversations with conservatives and they are nothing like these trolls. They have an opinion, but they aren’t looneys like these trolls are.
What can they gain? I’ll bet there is some type of disorder associated with their condition.
Spudge, what they gain is our distraction!
And regarding Cheney’s resignation (back on thread!), remember, Spiro went down first! And Nixon still got ousted. There is hope…
But who would take tha helm? Hastert? Shudder. Condi hasn’t a snowball’s chance, sorry Ned/I-Right-I/Mighty Windbag.
To ned and all the other right wing nut jobs, you are so funny. Rice has no chance what so ever of winning anything by vote. That’s a no brainer. She is not qualified in anything except lieing and even that she can’t do well..I am LOL a lot. Think of some one not corrupted to present pleeeeeease or just go away…….Blessings
As much as I hate to say it, Cheney may not have been lying (oooh, that hurts) when he said that he would not gain financially from Halliburton’s success. FactCheck.Org investigated this and their report can be found here (I apologize that I do not yet know how to make a link out of this, but copy and paste it into your browser):
Furthermore, for those who are not certain about the process, Amendment 25, Section 2 of the COnstitution says, “Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.” So it’s not just the Senate, but let’s not be so naive as to think that either House will reject anyone the President nominates. Hell, he could change his mind and nominate Harriet Miers to replace Cheney and they would still confirm her. Especially since it wouldn’t be a lifetime appointment.
Cheneys monthly stipend from Haliburton isn’t variable. So even though they are making more money now, he’s still getting the same ridiculously high monthly check. The noncomp contracts that have been thrown their way since bush43 came into office certainly hasn’t hurt their bottom line. It’s by that financial fact that I see a linkage between continued prosperity of the Vice Presidents previous employer.
& yea, the President would be the one to name the new Vice President. LBJ did it, Nixon did it, Ford did it & Bartlet did it.
It’s true. The Halliburton options have been assigned to charity by Cheney. It’s still unethical to hold direct financial ties in a company you direct work towards, even if you intend to give the proceeds to charity eventually. If you want to have a wing a university named after you, you might still have incentive to direct more business to the company than it deserves - that’s part of why the conflict of interest rules exist.
The Congressional Research Service (CRS) concluded in Sept. 2003 that holding stock options while in elective office does constitute a “financial interest†regardless of whether the holder of the options will donate proceeds to charities. CRS also found that receiving deferred compensation is a financial interest.
Cheney told “Meet the Press” in 2003 that he didn’t have any financial ties to the firm.
You guys shouldn’t pick on NED, She has a congenital medical problem that occurs in most repugs when they go to express themselves. It is called COBDOM. Which is the acronym for Constipation of the Brain and Diarrhea of the Mouth.
That is true. I hadn’t thought about the “wing-naming” aspect of it. Hell, for all we know, the slime bucket may have cut a separate deal (not shown to FactCheck) that says they’ll give the money back to him somehow. No proof of that, but I wouldn’t put it past him to find a way around the law, like he did when his company did business with countries that supported terrorism in violation of US law.
But then, when did obeying the law mean anything to these people? They gave money to Armstrong Williams in violation of the law, and now they want it back! That one’s a hoot.
Oh, and kindness,
Bartlett didn’t really pick his own new Veep. He wanted Secretary of State Berryhill but Speaker Hadley said he couldn’t do it and gave Bartlett a list of names they could confirm. No chance of that scenario happening since the GayOldParty controls the WH and both Houses. And there is no chance in hell that Rice would get the nod. Way too controversial and the Republicans know that it would mean their demise in 2006 if they even tried.
I hear Condi was a maid at the Bush complex when GW was going through puberty,,,and I believe she was his second, following Hariet Meirs. They both are in love with the ScumBag!
what are the 3 things you need to prove a crime
means, motive, and opportunity - and now Fitzgerald has all 3 covered
the WHIG team manufactured, falsified evidence to lie to American people and the Congress about reasons for invading Iraq
the motive
$
hallibacon type dollars - billions upon billions
what was the means?
Ahmad Chalabi, Judith Miller, the prostrate collaborating media
#88-”I hear Condi was a maid at the Bush complex when GW was going through puberty,,,and I believe she was his second, following Hariet Meirs. They both are in love with the ScumBag! Comment by Left coast Mike — October 18, 2005 @ 7:38 pm ”
Pssst..I hear Mikes’ mom tried to bring him up right -
poor woman - she failed miserably!
Condi vs. Hillary - now wouldn’t that be FUN!!!! People either LOVE Rodham (after her numerous public humiliations with her roving Bill I never disrespect her by calling her a name she’d just a soon forget) - or they HATE her. Perceptions of her are extremely polarizing - who knew??? Now you great white northeastern liberals can do all the Oreo, Aunt Tomasina talk you want re: Condi, but the fact remains you NEED to score 90% of the black vote to win. Like it or not - Rice will peel away 20% more of the black voters Dems always manage to take for granted - let the games begin!!!!!! P.S. Here’s my only election tip for DEMS - stop pretending to be the Victims - it looks weak and is most unattractive. P.S.S. The “I’m a proud member of the Christian Left” thing isn’t working. Very unimaginative!!!
(2) So Condi runs - she’s already provided the attack ads for the DLC. Who can forget the “Saddam has no weapons capability” of July 2001? http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/powell-no-wmd.htm (this is a 2-fer in case Powell gets reinjected with something and stuck out there again). Then there’s the 16 words in the SOTU speech - “who me?, nothing to see here” http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/03/07/19_sixteen.html And finally the August 6th, 2001 PDB - “historical document” - “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US” - detailing current signs of hijack suspects by the FBI…
Rice is a liar and an incompetent. And how many Southern votes from Mr Bush’s demographic do you really think she will get - take a good look around next time you go to NASCAR and see if they are ready to embrace who their great grandpappies fought so hard to stop freeing and their fathers spat on and lynched.
“Now you great white northeastern liberals can do all the Oreo, Aunt Tomasina talk you want re: Condi, but the fact remains you NEED to score 90% of the black vote to win. Like it or not - Rice will peel away 20% more of the black voters Dems always manage to take for granted - let the games begin!!!!!!”
You forget the 20% of the white rednecks that would vote for the green party before they voted for a black woman. Good luck with that strategy - I strongly believe your party should go for it MightDragQueen! Lets just see how well that southern strategy of yours works!
Rice is an idiot, pure and simple. She’s a highly polarizing figure, and she’s never been perceived as either competent or successful at any job she’s been in, other than by the reichwing spin cycle.
Scott says he doesn’t know if Plame was a covert agent - the CIA works for the President - he just has to pick up the phone.
“Q So the President of the United States doesn’t know whether or not this classified information was divulged, and he is only getting his information by reading the media?
MR. McCLELLAN: I’m sorry?
Q He does not know whether or not the classified information was divulged here, and he’s only getting his information from the media?
MR. McCLELLAN: No, we don’t know — we don’t have any information that’s been brought to our attention beyond what we’ve seen in the media reports. I’ve made that clear.”
Cheney for McCain: There are some of us who believe this was a done-deal ‘way before the election of 2004 - that somewhere around 2006, Cheney would resign (health reasons) and be replaced by John McCain, giving him a leg up on the 2008 Presidential election. In fact, you can trace this back to the time when John Kerry was courting McCain for his VP and all of a sudden, McCain began appearing at Bush’s side, saying nice Bushie things, etc. It is my belief that he was offered this opportunity then - and, as the shit is hitting the fan now, it makes it even more of a possibility. Like Reagan did to quell the Iran-Contra Affair criticism (by basically cleaning house), Bush can do the same thing, especially by bringing in Mr Goodie 2Shoes, John McCain. Yes, there will be corporate complaining and right wing complaining, but winks and nods will abound.
Why not elevate Drownie?
October 18th, 2005 at 2:30 pmHe needs a job.
Great find!!! Rice in 2008!
October 18th, 2005 at 2:30 pmif this were to happen, it would be another case of liberals shooting themselves in the foot. No way Hillary could beat Condi in 2008!
October 18th, 2005 at 2:33 pmA crony in need, is loyal indeed!
October 18th, 2005 at 2:33 pmI’ll believe it when I see it.
NeD, you are insane.
October 18th, 2005 at 2:34 pmRice? You’re funny NED.
Rice has written all of the Demo attack ads already. Here’s a good start:
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/powell-no-wmd.htm
(BTW that’s a two-fer in case Powell sticks his Uncle Tom head up again)
Rice is an Bush admin liar - I thought maybe just an incompetent, but after seeing the 9-11 commission show, I stick with liar.
October 18th, 2005 at 2:36 pmWoah, this would be HUGE. Jump Dicky, jump!!
Only the fringe wingnut libertarian types think that Rice would have a prayer at winning the Presidency. She’s a total incompetent and a liar.
October 18th, 2005 at 2:38 pmThere is no freaking way!
I don’t think Cheney would go down without a fight. I hate this scumbag more than anybody, but I just can’t believe he would just flat out resign. He is way too into himself to do that.
And NeD, you are a freak dude. Condi for President? You can’t be serious. I mean come on. Is that because she is the only one without a criminal investigation (oops Plamegate) or because she was Johnny on the Spot during Katrina (oops shoe shopping at Prada). What quailifications does Condi have?
October 18th, 2005 at 2:39 pmMind you most incompetents are also liars, Jay. NED I bet you know a lot about incompetence… how about it?
October 18th, 2005 at 2:39 pmThe “knees” finally give out? I predicted Chaney would be the one to take the hit - he’d never spend time in jail with a heart condition. Perhaps this is why he was absent from Katrina - looking for a good crony-supported haven to do home detention in. Maybe he’ll found a shelter - for displaced victims of the “criminalization of politics” - Call it “The Spiro Agnew Home For The Congenitally Corrupt”.
October 18th, 2005 at 2:40 pmApart from the fact that Rice just said over the weekend that she didn’t want to be President (what she really wants is to be NFL Commish), I can just see her campaigning in South Carolina, Alabama, Missississiissppii…
October 18th, 2005 at 2:40 pmgeorge needs to go and his whole damn cabinet with him… and, btw, guys, don’t let the screen door hit you in the ass on the way out…!
October 18th, 2005 at 2:41 pm“No way Hillary could beat Condi in 2008!”
2% of Black voters approve of the Bush/Rice agenda. Good luck.
October 18th, 2005 at 2:42 pmNow we know why she (Rice) changed her name to Condom—she’s going to need all the protection she can get.
October 18th, 2005 at 2:44 pmSpudge - Condi is more qualified than Hillary. AND the fact that you guys hate her makes her even more appealing to centrist voters who re-elected Bush.
October 18th, 2005 at 2:45 pmA nigra girl in the White House? You Yankees serious? its the WHITE House. Just when that there Civil Rights Act made us good old boys switch to that their party of Lincoln, they wnat to put a what in the WHITE HOUSE?Damn, I just rolled over in my grave..
Got your sheets boys? Yeehah! Let’s ride.
October 18th, 2005 at 2:46 pm“more qualified”? At least Hillary will have stood and won 2 elections by 2008.
October 18th, 2005 at 2:47 pmMaybe ah am a bit out of touch with the modern world…
Got your NASCAR tickets boys? Yeehah! Let’s ride!
October 18th, 2005 at 2:49 pm“Spudge - Condi is more qualified than Hillary.”
Really, what elected office has she ever held? Is this the same Condi who didn’t know the meaning of the memo titled ““Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States.—. Yeah, that’s her…
NEDelusional strikes again - the stupidest things come from that girl’s keyboard!
” AND the fact that you guys hate her makes her even more appealing to centrist voters who re-elected Bush.”
Good, put her out there. Last survey says 65% of americans want a change. Bring it on girlfriend!
October 18th, 2005 at 2:50 pm#16, not even a little bit funny.
Condi Rice would have NO CHANCE to win the presidency. Incidentally, I don’t think Hillary would either, but that’s just my opinion.
Thinkprogress, is this for real? Who is the source of this speculation. Throw us a bone.
October 18th, 2005 at 2:50 pmHey NED,
Did you ever respond as to why all of the republican congressmen felt it was OK to attack Clinton when we were at war with Kosovo - yet you now say this is harming the troops? Is there some magic spell republicans incant before their goddess that permits them to be hypocrites? Or is it just that you’re a stupid little girl? I bet the second.
October 18th, 2005 at 2:51 pmCould this be why Cheney might go?
http://rawstory.com/ news/ 2005/ Cheney_aide_cooperating_with_CIA_outing_1018.html
October 18th, 2005 at 2:52 pmWho could blame him for wanting out…what with this and all:
New on EWM: Fitzgerald Issues Frog-Marching Guidelines
October 18th, 2005 at 2:57 pmCheney Resignation Rumors Fly
October 18th, 2005 at 2:58 pmNeD,
When did I bring up Hillary in my post? I don’t ever remember saying Hillary or Clinton.
Let’s see:
“There is no freaking way!
I don’t think Cheney would go down without a fight. I hate this scumbag more than anybody, but I just can’t believe he would just flat out resign. He is way too into himself to do that.
And NeD, you are a freak dude. Condi for President? You can’t be serious. I mean come on. Is that because she is the only one without a criminal investigation (oops Plamegate) or because she was Johnny on the Spot during Katrina (oops shoe shopping at Prada). What quailifications does Condi have?”
Nope, I never said anything about Hillary. What I did ask was what quliafications Condi has. Can you not answer that question?
October 18th, 2005 at 2:59 pmIF this juicy rumor is true, it would be likely that Rice would be put in Cheney’s place and thereby set her up for a run in 2008 as president. If THAT were to happen, she would be slaughtered in the campaign as all her lies would come back to haunt her.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:01 pmNot to mention all the Republicans who are not only racially bigoted, but anti-feminine as well.
Well, let’s hope that he will be convicted and put behind bars. And for those who believe Bush will Pardon him, he can’t.
Here is what the law says about that:
Sec. 1.2 Eligibility for filing petition for pardon.
No petition for pardon should be filed until the expiration of a waiting period of at least five years after the date of the release of the petitioner from confinement or, in case no prison sentence was imposed, until the expiration of a period of at least five years after the date of the conviction of the petitioner. Generally, no petition should be submitted by a person who is on probation, parole, or supervised release.
So since by law you have to file for a pardon, he should not be eligible for pardon by Bush. However, we all know that this administration may find a way to get around this small legal issue.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:02 pmGerald Ford is still around, I believe. And he’d be well rested.
As for Condi, well, she’s got more qualifications for POTUS than Harriet has for SCOTUS. But that might just be my hormones talking.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:04 pmBush didn’t put Gonzales in place for nothing!
October 18th, 2005 at 3:04 pm#29 — Damn right, not for nothing! A LOT of money probably changed hands.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:06 pmNo way Hillary could beat Condi in 2008!
No way Condi will get nominated, what with all the sexists and racists in the Republican party.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:08 pmNow, here’s a really fun fantasy: Cheney resigns and turns state’s evidence, testifying against Bush and Rove in return for a plea bargain.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:14 pmAnd to think, if Iraq were handled more efficiently and quickly, they wouldn’t be in this mess.
I’m sorry I ever debated NED. “Mushroom Cloud Condi”? What a joke and waste of my time.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:15 pmThat Uncle Tom buying $7000 shoes while NO was filling up with water?!
Try it! Please!
October 18th, 2005 at 3:19 pm#20 Jay’s right, TP - this is sketchy stuff. Just gets people foaming at the mouth. Beyond various unnamed officals, there are no facts here…
October 18th, 2005 at 3:21 pm#35 — Maybe it’s a hoax generated in the hope that Cheney reads the rumor and has a cardiac incident.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:24 pm“I find Condi to be the absolute PERFECT shade of black for a leader. Don’t you Buffy?”
October 18th, 2005 at 3:25 pmCondi - the Oil Tanker and queen of destruction.
Was that the same person who was touted as having a PHD on russian studies, yet who’s PHD wasn’t even on the russians? Then again she didn’t know that a memo entitled Bin Laden intends to strike inside america meant he was going to attack us - so hey, what’s a girl gonna do?
The title of Condi’s PHD: “The Politics Of Client Command Party-Military Relations In Czechoslovakia : 1948-1975″
So much for the theory that she’s a russian expert - instead she’s an expert on a country that is no longer a communist state - wow, what ‘big lie’ - one of the many from the reichwing spin machine.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:27 pmOkay, I have a question. Isn’t the succession President, VP and then Speaker of the House? Wouldn’t Hastert get the gig? The president doesn’t appoint a successor, does he? This is a constitutional issue, right?
October 18th, 2005 at 3:29 pmBrian - that is a repugnant statement. You show liberals for the bigots they are. Sad.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:31 pmI know this isn’t germane, but I was researching an article I’m currently writing, and I came across this gem (from Little Green Footballs) which I think demonstrates that conservatives don’t think much before they speak:
wednesday, august 31, 2005
8:46 AM PDT
#43 Free Speech Is Only For über-Libs 8/31/2005 09:11AM PDT
it’s August. All presidents take time off in August.
Clinton played golf, too… but that was okay. George Bush enjoying a game is just wrong. Right, liberals?
Classic!
October 18th, 2005 at 3:31 pmReminds me of Alexander Haig saying “I’m in charge”
October 18th, 2005 at 3:32 pm#39 — That’s only if they go in order. If the president is still around when a vice president goes, the president gets to name a new one.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:35 pm#36 - I’m willing to wait for Fitzgerald to put some facts on the table, indictments or otherwise. I don’t trust the US press to do anything other than look for sensation and that’s all I see here.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:35 pm“I know this isn’t germane…”
Then go away, and work on your HTML skills.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:35 pmTesty, today? Try an antacid.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:37 pm#39 — That’s only if they go in order. If the president is still around when a vice president goes, the president gets to name a new one.
Right, as with Nixon and Ford. “Pardon me, but will you be my Vice-President?”
October 18th, 2005 at 3:41 pmThat’s cute Gary.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:42 pm“I’m fighting for whitie! He trusts ME on the FRONT LINES!!”
October 18th, 2005 at 3:44 pm“I play piano!”
“I like football!”
“I’m about as black as a sanitary napkin!”
“I fit into absolutely no USA demographic whatsoever!”
#46,
Yeah, I guess that was uncalled for.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:44 pmMy apologies.
Backroom deals going on RIGHT NOW:…”Ok GW, I’ll give you 43.6% of my hallieburdon, my car, my dog, NOW will you PARDON ME when the time comes??????…..”you sure got a purddy …..there dickie…
October 18th, 2005 at 3:46 pmIf the VP leaves the office the President has to appoint on and the Senate gets to confirm. When Agnew had to quit Nixon did not replace him before he had to leave office so Ford became president because he was speaker of the house. It Cheney leaves Bush will have to appoint a new VP.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:47 pmAre you sure about that tech?
October 18th, 2005 at 3:51 pmI thought Ford WAS appointed by Nixon, but
it was a loing time ago.
#52 — And Ford named Rockefeller as his VP.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:51 pmFord was a senator.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:54 pmNeD, are you on dope? Condi? No way you pack of racists would ever vote for any African American, much less a woman. Repubs are facist racists and that is the ONLY thing we can count on from you.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:54 pmWhen Agnew had to quit Nixon did not replace him before he had to leave office so Ford became president because he was speaker of the house.
Incorrect. Ford was appointed by Nixon in ‘73. Nixon resigned nearly a year later.
October 18th, 2005 at 3:57 pmNeD, you have used the word repugnant enough - find a dictionary, troll. Polly wanna cracker?
October 18th, 2005 at 3:57 pmit IS complicated…
“…Nixon denied any personal involvement, but the courts forced him to yield tape recordings which indicated that he had, in fact, tried to divert the investigation.
As a result of unrelated scandals in Maryland, Vice President Spiro T. Agnew resigned in 1973. Nixon nominated, and Congress approved, House Minority Leader Gerald R. Ford as Vice President.
Faced with what seemed almost certain impeachment, Nixon announced on August 8, 1974, that he would resign…”
“When Gerald R. Ford took the oath of office on August 9, 1974, he declared, “I assume the Presidency under extraordinary circumstances…. This is an hour of history that troubles our minds and hurts our hearts.”
It was indeed an unprecedented time. He had been the first Vice President chosen under the terms of the Twenty-fifth Amendment and, in the aftermath of the Watergate scandal, was succeeding the first President ever to resign…
…His nominee for Vice President, former Governor Nelson Rockefeller of New York, was the second person to fill that office by appointment…”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/ history/ presidents/ index2.html
October 18th, 2005 at 4:05 pmIf Cheney leaves, he gets that mansion in New England he was shopping for during Katrina and cashes out the Halliburon options at 3,000% profit. I’m sure he’d like to have a few years of Croesus-like self-indulgence before he finally cacks…and Satan stops by to collect on that contract.
And Condi as VP? Perfect! She can take over when George is impeached, and still have time to prove what an overrated talent she is prior to 2008.
I say Godspeed, Dick Cheney! Take one for the team, today!
October 18th, 2005 at 4:06 pmI aM nOt A cRoOk!
October 18th, 2005 at 4:09 pmCondi for Concert Pianist and White House Maid!
October 18th, 2005 at 4:12 pmCondi for shoe saleswomen.
October 18th, 2005 at 4:13 pmRotwang,
…and Satan stops by to collect on that contract.
So true. Evil just seeps out of the man. This is just too good to be true, Dick Cheney is the man behind the curtain, the true president and the most powerful man on earth as of today. NO CHANCE he goes down alone, he’ll be taking every last mf%^&ing one of them down too. My heart sings at the prospect.
October 18th, 2005 at 4:13 pmJay,
Cheney’s set, and he damn sure ain’t going to the Big House…no matter who he has to finger. Plus, he’s smart enough not to assume that Chimpy will be around long enough to pardon him.
Every “Undisclosed Location” has an escape hatch, and Big Time’s bags are packed.
October 18th, 2005 at 4:23 pmHey NeD,
Care to tell us what Condi’s qualifications are finally? I asked a simple question, so you can give a simple answer. That answer doesn’t need to include anything relating to Hillary, because she is not part of the question. The question is simply what are her qualifications?
October 18th, 2005 at 4:53 pm“Brian - that is a repugnant statement. You show liberals for the bigots they are. Sad.
Comment by The Northeast Dilemma”
Actually Bill Bennett has done a masterful job of showing which party is full of bigots. But then again, your war on poor minorities made that clear years ago. That’s why ONLY 2% OF AFRICAN AMERICANS APPROVE OF BUSH. Once again - who’s a bigot? NED’s a bigot! Condi hates the fact she’s black - that’s clear. How many black friends have you ever seen her with? How many black people does she even know? I bet I have more black friends than she does!
October 18th, 2005 at 4:55 pmSpudge - she’s Secretary of State, former national sec advisor and she has a wealth of knowledge on foreign policy affairs. I think she’d be great. Not nearly divisive as Hillary (or any Democrat for that matter).
October 18th, 2005 at 4:56 pmSpudge,
NED never thought about it, and she’s busy looking on the freeper and other reichwing sites to see if there’s an answer. Clearly she’s incapable of thinking for herself, and everything she posts is trite, and non-rational. Poor thing, what a sad little puss bag she must really be to be so full of hate and ignorance in the same package! Feel pity for the little worm - not anger - she doesn’t rise to the level of deserving anything but pity!
October 18th, 2005 at 4:56 pmRyan - chill. You need help. Get some soon or it will be a long three years for you.
October 18th, 2005 at 4:57 pm“she’s Secretary of State, former national sec advisor and she has a wealth of knowledge on foreign policy affairs. I think she’d be great. Not nearly divisive as Hillary (or any Democrat for that matter).”
Appointed and not elected positions. Not to mention that in both roles she’s been nothing but an utter failures. Most foreign countries not only despise this administration - but they believe us to be inept because of Ms. Rice. If you wish to further our worldwide agenda, then putting yet another inept failure in as president is clearly the wrong direction! Then again, as an inept failure yourself, clearly you personally identify with Ms. Rice!
October 18th, 2005 at 4:58 pm“Ryan - chill. You need help. Get some soon or it will be a long three years for you.
Comment by The Northeast Dilemma”
Bahaha, funny, I was about to tell you the same thing! I’m not the one posting on a website dedicated to my enemy. Clearly your world is so shattered you can’t even stand your own kind. You have to come HERE to have your little girl voice heard. How SAD you are miss thang!
Bahahaha.
I’m quite satisfied with the fact that 65% of americans say YOU’RE WRONG - that restores much of my faith in the american public, and clearly shows you are not only out of step with american values - but you’re delusional in the entire process. What a mentally ill little worm you are miss thang!
October 18th, 2005 at 5:00 pmWow NeD, you sure have a hang up with Hillary don’t you. You can’t help but say that Condi’s qualifications are that she is better than Hillary. That is not a good reason for anybody to vote for anybody.
I can say vote for me, I haven’t been indicted for anything. That makes me a better candidate than half the republican party.
You are a fvcking joke.
October 18th, 2005 at 5:00 pmIf I work for the u.s.goverment, I’m ever accused of a crime, I’ll just ‘resign’ and walk away…cool!
October 18th, 2005 at 5:03 pmNeD continually proves his ignorance and is so misguided that he will actually post it here for all to see as if it makes him look smart. Are you trying to look smart for us NeD? Do you want us to like you? Or, do you like that we don’t?
Trolls are getting stranger as their party disintegrates. That’s a setup, NeD. C’mon show us what you have up that skinny little sleeve of yours.
October 18th, 2005 at 5:05 pmI can’t tell anymore what NeD’s deal is. He rambles stupid crap all day long here. He clearly has no one. Like you say, Ryan, he comes here as we are the only ones who will listen to his drivel.
Ain’t that somethin’ NeD? Amazing!!! You hate us so much and call us all sorts of names, yet, when you are lonely and no one wants you, it is US that you rely upon. That’s what we progressives do for the less fortunate, we listen and try to teach. Unfortunately, intelligence isn’t learned and ignorance must be admitted to be overcome.
Poor NeDDy.
October 18th, 2005 at 5:11 pmI just don’t get the whole troll mentality. I am a huge PlayStation fan. I don’t own an Xbox. I go to PlayStation sites and post about stuff, but I don’t go to Xbox sites and post. Because that would make me a troll.
Why do you think the trolls come here? What do they gain. I have had conversations with conservatives and they are nothing like these trolls. They have an opinion, but they aren’t looneys like these trolls are.
What can they gain? I’ll bet there is some type of disorder associated with their condition.
October 18th, 2005 at 5:18 pmSpudge, what they gain is our distraction!
October 18th, 2005 at 6:08 pmAnd regarding Cheney’s resignation (back on thread!), remember, Spiro went down first! And Nixon still got ousted. There is hope…
But who would take tha helm? Hastert? Shudder. Condi hasn’t a snowball’s chance, sorry Ned/I-Right-I/Mighty Windbag.
To ned and all the other right wing nut jobs, you are so funny. Rice has no chance what so ever of winning anything by vote. That’s a no brainer. She is not qualified in anything except lieing and even that she can’t do well..I am LOL a lot. Think of some one not corrupted to present pleeeeeease or just go away…….Blessings
October 18th, 2005 at 6:24 pmAs much as I hate to say it, Cheney may not have been lying (oooh, that hurts) when he said that he would not gain financially from Halliburton’s success. FactCheck.Org investigated this and their report can be found here (I apologize that I do not yet know how to make a link out of this, but copy and paste it into your browser):
http://www.factcheck.org/article261.html
Furthermore, for those who are not certain about the process, Amendment 25, Section 2 of the COnstitution says, “Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.” So it’s not just the Senate, but let’s not be so naive as to think that either House will reject anyone the President nominates. Hell, he could change his mind and nominate Harriet Miers to replace Cheney and they would still confirm her. Especially since it wouldn’t be a lifetime appointment.
October 18th, 2005 at 6:31 pmCheneys monthly stipend from Haliburton isn’t variable. So even though they are making more money now, he’s still getting the same ridiculously high monthly check. The noncomp contracts that have been thrown their way since bush43 came into office certainly hasn’t hurt their bottom line. It’s by that financial fact that I see a linkage between continued prosperity of the Vice Presidents previous employer.
& yea, the President would be the one to name the new Vice President. LBJ did it, Nixon did it, Ford did it & Bartlet did it.
October 18th, 2005 at 6:43 pmC’mon you all. I know you’ve seen West Wing some.
I’d still be pleased as all hell if Chenney resigned.
October 18th, 2005 at 6:45 pmHow about Bernard Kerik?
October 18th, 2005 at 6:48 pmWayne,
It’s true. The Halliburton options have been assigned to charity by Cheney. It’s still unethical to hold direct financial ties in a company you direct work towards, even if you intend to give the proceeds to charity eventually. If you want to have a wing a university named after you, you might still have incentive to direct more business to the company than it deserves - that’s part of why the conflict of interest rules exist.
The Congressional Research Service (CRS) concluded in Sept. 2003 that holding stock options while in elective office does constitute a “financial interest†regardless of whether the holder of the options will donate proceeds to charities. CRS also found that receiving deferred compensation is a financial interest.
Cheney told “Meet the Press” in 2003 that he didn’t have any financial ties to the firm.
October 18th, 2005 at 6:49 pmYou guys shouldn’t pick on NED, She has a congenital medical problem that occurs in most repugs when they go to express themselves. It is called COBDOM. Which is the acronym for Constipation of the Brain and Diarrhea of the Mouth.
Click on Clyde
October 18th, 2005 at 7:00 pmRyan,
That is true. I hadn’t thought about the “wing-naming” aspect of it. Hell, for all we know, the slime bucket may have cut a separate deal (not shown to FactCheck) that says they’ll give the money back to him somehow. No proof of that, but I wouldn’t put it past him to find a way around the law, like he did when his company did business with countries that supported terrorism in violation of US law.
But then, when did obeying the law mean anything to these people? They gave money to Armstrong Williams in violation of the law, and now they want it back! That one’s a hoot.
Oh, and kindness,
Bartlett didn’t really pick his own new Veep. He wanted Secretary of State Berryhill but Speaker Hadley said he couldn’t do it and gave Bartlett a list of names they could confirm. No chance of that scenario happening since the GayOldParty controls the WH and both Houses. And there is no chance in hell that Rice would get the nod. Way too controversial and the Republicans know that it would mean their demise in 2006 if they even tried.
October 18th, 2005 at 7:01 pmI hear Condi was a maid at the Bush complex when GW was going through puberty,,,and I believe she was his second, following Hariet Meirs. They both are in love with the ScumBag!
October 18th, 2005 at 7:38 pmCurses, foiled again. Well thanks for the heads up. I’ll have to admit, my wife watches West Wing. I will occasionally surf the re-runs.
October 18th, 2005 at 7:38 pmwhat are the 3 things you need to prove a crime
means, motive, and opportunity - and now Fitzgerald has all 3 covered
the WHIG team manufactured, falsified evidence to lie to American people and the Congress about reasons for invading Iraq
the motive
$
hallibacon type dollars - billions upon billions
what was the means?
Ahmad Chalabi, Judith Miller, the prostrate collaborating media
what was the opportunity?
October 18th, 2005 at 9:24 pm9-11
Cheney isn’t going anywhere - no matter how many times you whiners click your heels. Try wishing on a star.
October 18th, 2005 at 9:54 pmMighty Ahole
Tell us what you know or shut the f”k up - quit mouthing off bs and propaganda
Either put up some documentation or shut your pie hole
October 18th, 2005 at 9:59 pmMighty Ahole
Just what I thought
You’re like O’Reilly -
you got diarrhea of the mouth but nothing to show for it
October 18th, 2005 at 10:02 pmAs they say in the street - Put up or shut up
Hey might ahole
Wish on this
Cheney’s going down
Rove is going down
What Wilson predicted is going to come true
Rove will be frogmarched out of the White House in handcuffs
And he’ll take it up the ying yang and like it, cause he’s been doing that for years
October 18th, 2005 at 10:03 pmJust as I thought
Mighty Ahole has nothin’
October 18th, 2005 at 10:08 pm#88-”I hear Condi was a maid at the Bush complex when GW was going through puberty,,,and I believe she was his second, following Hariet Meirs. They both are in love with the ScumBag! Comment by Left coast Mike — October 18, 2005 @ 7:38 pm ”
Pssst..I hear Mikes’ mom tried to bring him up right -
poor woman - she failed miserably!
Condi vs. Hillary - now wouldn’t that be FUN!!!! People either LOVE Rodham (after her numerous public humiliations with her roving Bill I never disrespect her by calling her a name she’d just a soon forget) - or they HATE her. Perceptions of her are extremely polarizing - who knew??? Now you great white northeastern liberals can do all the Oreo, Aunt Tomasina talk you want re: Condi, but the fact remains you NEED to score 90% of the black vote to win. Like it or not - Rice will peel away 20% more of the black voters Dems always manage to take for granted - let the games begin!!!!!! P.S. Here’s my only election tip for DEMS - stop pretending to be the Victims - it looks weak and is most unattractive. P.S.S. The “I’m a proud member of the Christian Left” thing isn’t working. Very unimaginative!!!
October 18th, 2005 at 10:11 pmMighty Ahole
You’re a freakin wimp
You can’t even stand and fight
you got nothing
All you got is some swipes at Hilary - nobody freakin cares about Hilary - and you don’t even know that
Freak you and yours
Your lot sold us out, and you sold the country out, and 200,000 plus have died for you and yours and your freakin lies
And you and yours will go down for it - sooner or later
October 18th, 2005 at 10:16 pmMighty ahole
October 18th, 2005 at 10:17 pmRice won’t get anywhere cause she’ll be in jail along with Cheney and Bush. Bush will go down for lying to Congress
#96, funny stuff MA.
(1) Since when have Republicans even wanted to register black voters http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=27&row=1 , let alone count their votes ?http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/121604Z.shtml
(2) So Condi runs - she’s already provided the attack ads for the DLC. Who can forget the “Saddam has no weapons capability” of July 2001? http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/powell-no-wmd.htm (this is a 2-fer in case Powell gets reinjected with something and stuck out there again). Then there’s the 16 words in the SOTU speech - “who me?, nothing to see here” http://www.democraticunderground.com/ articles/ 03/ 07/ 19_sixteen.html And finally the August 6th, 2001 PDB - “historical document” - “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US” - detailing current signs of hijack suspects by the FBI…
Rice is a liar and an incompetent. And how many Southern votes from Mr Bush’s demographic do you really think she will get - take a good look around next time you go to NASCAR and see if they are ready to embrace who their great grandpappies fought so hard to stop freeing and their fathers spat on and lynched.
October 18th, 2005 at 10:37 pm“Cheney isn’t going anywhere - no matter how many times you whiners click your heels. Try wishing on a star.
Comment by mighty aphrodite ”
Judy Garland references? Anyone else need further proof we’re dealing a drag queen here?
October 19th, 2005 at 12:07 am“Now you great white northeastern liberals can do all the Oreo, Aunt Tomasina talk you want re: Condi, but the fact remains you NEED to score 90% of the black vote to win. Like it or not - Rice will peel away 20% more of the black voters Dems always manage to take for granted - let the games begin!!!!!!”
You forget the 20% of the white rednecks that would vote for the green party before they voted for a black woman. Good luck with that strategy - I strongly believe your party should go for it MightDragQueen! Lets just see how well that southern strategy of yours works!
October 19th, 2005 at 12:08 amRice is an idiot, pure and simple. She’s a highly polarizing figure, and she’s never been perceived as either competent or successful at any job she’s been in, other than by the reichwing spin cycle.
October 19th, 2005 at 12:09 amok i just watched the the briefing.
Scott says he doesn’t know if Plame was a covert agent - the CIA works for the President - he just has to pick up the phone.
“Q So the President of the United States doesn’t know whether or not this classified information was divulged, and he is only getting his information by reading the media?
MR. McCLELLAN: I’m sorry?
Q He does not know whether or not the classified information was divulged here, and he’s only getting his information from the media?
MR. McCLELLAN: No, we don’t know — we don’t have any information that’s been brought to our attention beyond what we’ve seen in the media reports. I’ve made that clear.”
October 19th, 2005 at 1:57 amSince when is Cheney using a cane?
Condi will be the straw that breaks the proverbial pugs back.
Neocons hate her, she’s black, gay and a woman.
October 20th, 2005 at 12:21 amA question for the stupid republicans that post their nonsense here…
When did Hillary Clinton announce that she is running for Prez in 08?
Bet you have no talking point for that question yet do ya?
Are you stumped? Didn’t O’Scumbag email you the script?
October 20th, 2005 at 12:28 amCheney for McCain: There are some of us who believe this was a done-deal ‘way before the election of 2004 - that somewhere around 2006, Cheney would resign (health reasons) and be replaced by John McCain, giving him a leg up on the 2008 Presidential election. In fact, you can trace this back to the time when John Kerry was courting McCain for his VP and all of a sudden, McCain began appearing at Bush’s side, saying nice Bushie things, etc. It is my belief that he was offered this opportunity then - and, as the shit is hitting the fan now, it makes it even more of a possibility. Like Reagan did to quell the Iran-Contra Affair criticism (by basically cleaning house), Bush can do the same thing, especially by bringing in Mr Goodie 2Shoes, John McCain. Yes, there will be corporate complaining and right wing complaining, but winks and nods will abound.
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