BREAKING: CBS To Report Fitzgerald Will Make His Decision Known Tomorrow
BREAKING: CBS To Report Fitzgerald Will Make His Decision Known Tomorrow
From the CBS Evening News, to air at 6:30PM:
CBS’ JOHN ROBERTS: Lawyers familiar with the case think Wednesday is when special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald will make known his decision, and that there will be indictments. Supporters say Rove and the vice president’s chief of staff, Scooter Libby, are in legal jeopardy. But they insisted today the two are secondary players, that it was an unidentified Mr. X who actually gave the name of CIA agent V alerie Plame to reporters. Fitzgerald knows who Mr. X is, they say, and if he isn’t indicted, there’s no way Rove or Libby should be. But charges may not focus on the leak at all. Obstruction of justice or perjury are real possibilities. Did Rove or Libby change statements made under oath? Did they deliberately leave critical facts out of their testimony or did they honestly forget? Some Republicans urged Rove to step down if indicted. Not a happy prospect for president Bush.
Any guesses on the identity of Mr. X?
UPDATE: This bit from the CBS segment is also interesting –
SCHIEFFER: John, I am very interested in Mr. X. Is there any clue or hint as to whether he be – maybe someone who outranks Libby and Rove or would he be a lower-ranking official?
ROBERTS: The best guess is that Mr. X, even though his name is not known and some people are just speculating on who he might be or she might be, is somebody who is actually outside the White House, and in that case would be of a lower rank that both Rove and Libby.
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October 25th, 2005 at 6:01 pmI want it to be Darth Cheney too.
However, rumor has it that it isn’t anyone inside the White House.
Danggit!
(I sure hope I’m wrong tho!)
October 25th, 2005 at 6:03 pmMr. X??????
CBS?????
Oh God, please don’t let it be Bill Burkett
Are you ready for Bush 2.2?
New on EWM: White House Sets Job Fair
October 25th, 2005 at 6:03 pmProbably Ari Fleischer–but that’s one step closer to the W.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:03 pmWell, I don’t think it’s Cheney because he wouldn’t be considered a “secondary player” to Rove and Libby. My money is on John Hannah.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:04 pmChe che Cheeeney…
October 25th, 2005 at 6:04 pmChain of fools
Rush Limbaugh! (I wish)
October 25th, 2005 at 6:06 pmI believe there is a good chance that Cheney will be among a half dozen or so indictments. We can only hope!
October 25th, 2005 at 6:06 pmFred Fleitz.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:08 pmIt’s gotta be Cheney.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:08 pmOh, and a note to Judd who commented earlier. The article says Rove and Libby are the secondary players to Mr. X, not the other way around.
So that leaves just two men, Cheney and Bush.
Bush doesn’t have the brains for this, so it’s gotta be Cheney.
bush himself. like nixon didn’t know. busha dunno nothing neither
October 25th, 2005 at 6:09 pmFor a complete collection of the latest PlameGate news, briefings, timelines, statutes and other essential documents, see:
“The Rove/PlameGate Scandal Resource Center.”
October 25th, 2005 at 6:09 pmChristmas comes early this year – yippeee!
Ari would be nice. Why not make it harder for the warmonger’s mouthpieces!
October 25th, 2005 at 6:10 pmAll I can think of is “Professor Xavier”. However, I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t have been involved.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:10 pmWho’ll be the new puppetmaster? And they thought Monkey Boy was dumb before?
October 25th, 2005 at 6:10 pmWell, I think it’s secondary players in the scheme, not status. Alas.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:11 pmPerhaps Mr. X is pictured here.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:12 pmTenant would be my guess, 2nd guess, a new name – Bolton
October 25th, 2005 at 6:12 pmIt should also be noted, in all this discussion of the indictments coming down the pike tomorrow, that Fitzgerald has a history of issuing initial indictments, and following up with more, and more. He’s an aboslutely meticulous, relentless, brilliant prosecutor, and if he can use initial indictments as leverage to gather more information, he will.
It is very interesting, moreover, that the intial indictments will be sealed. From the comments of lawyers on this, that fact implies that there’s more going on than meets the eye, and that Fitzgerald has more in store. One thing at a time.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:13 pmPeople should look at http://www.prisonplanet.com for the truth.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:14 pmNot sure about this but http://www.tomflocco.com is an interesting one.
How about “Jeff Gannon” (James Guckert)??
October 25th, 2005 at 6:15 pmMaybe it is not a Mr. Perhaps it is Mary Matalin. Her hubby has been very tame lately on CNN.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:16 pmI’m votin’ for Bolton
October 25th, 2005 at 6:16 pmalso, remember, this is from supporters who are trying to say it’s not REALLY Rove and the Libster’s fault. It doesn’t mean it’s true.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:19 pmJust the fact that Fitzgerald might let the public know what’s going on BEFORE late Friday shows that he’s independent.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:19 pmAs to Mr(s) X, I wonder how they’ll try to smooth over why some lower staffer had a “Need to Know” confidential info like the status of Ms. Wilson/Plame?
Mr.”X”is John Bolton
October 25th, 2005 at 6:20 pmI think Mr.X is Tenet. He won’t be indicted, but Rove/Libby will use this a their ‘defense’ and to point fingers at democrats.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:21 pmMr. X is either George Tenet or Chalabi.
Query. CNN reported on the day that Tenet resigned, Bush consulted a private attorney.
Hmmm. Why would that be necessary?
Matthew
October 25th, 2005 at 6:21 pmI’m saying Bolton as well. His MO fits, would explain why the NSA intercepts weren’t released, and why Bush gave him a recess appointment.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:21 pmMy money’s on Steven Hadley for Mr. X.
Maybe he’ll roll and tell us something about condi.
I was gonna say “roll over on Condi” but that was just too creepy . . .
October 25th, 2005 at 6:22 pmBill Clinton? Actually, my guess is the walrus, John Bolton. Sneaky bastard.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:22 pmWell if it were Bolton, would this explain his prison visit (or was it a call) to Judith Miller?
matthew
October 25th, 2005 at 6:23 pmCould it be…… dare I say it……Colin Powell?!?! Who was more discredited than he? His resignation, offhand, scathing remarks by his former chief of staff, and his silence leave possible clues to ponder. He would regret the needless loss of U.S. troops more than the chicken hawks, and was made to lie to the world, decieved by intentionally distorted and fabricated intelligence reports. If the story is true, Colin would have a beef with a VP who took over his job.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:24 pmMr. X is the one who “gave the name of CIA agent Valerie Plame to reporters”????
Who cares who gave the name? You can ID her as Wilson’s wife, and the damage is done. Sounds like pre-indictment first-strike spin from Rove and Libby: “someone else _gave the name_” and “well, jeez, we should not be indicted if Mr. X isn’t . . .”
Here is the nascent GOP spin:
1 “But they insisted today the two are secondary players . . .”
2 “Fitzgerald knows who Mr. X is, they say, and if he isn’t indicted, there’s no way Rove or Libby should be.”
I call bullsh!t. We are being played.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:24 pm[...] John Roberts at CBS News is also reporting that tomorrow is I-day and that there is an heretofore unidentified Mr. X who first leaked the Plame name to reporters. Roberts speculates that Mr. X is outside the White House. [...]
October 25th, 2005 at 6:25 pmJames Guckert aka Jeff Gannon
October 25th, 2005 at 6:26 pmFor more on Plamegate, check out this blog:
The Agenda Gap
October 25th, 2005 at 6:26 pmIt is a good thing he is indicting tomorrow so Bush can pardon whoever may be indicted and this can be an old story by friday.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:27 pmRepublicans are saying that nothing illegal was done. Yet, a CIA agent was outed, the related operation was destroyed, and other agents lives were put at risk. Despite this, the republicans want us to believe that no one should be held responsible. Never mind the fact that Karl Rove and Scooter Libby leaked her identity thereby exposing her life to danger and outing her in the process. If they didn’t know she was undercover, which I doubt, they should be prosecuted for negligent endangerment. What business does two senior white house officials have leaking a CIA agents identity to the press, especially if they don’t know what her status may be? How irresponsible and negligent is that? If its not illegal it should be.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:28 pmIt could be Ari, if one buys the ‘outside the WH’ rumors. But my money is on David Wurmser. And the allegation will be that he provided the info on Plame to reporters at the express direction of Libby, and possibly Cheney.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:29 pmI’m putting the best odds on Bolton.
Second best odds: Hannah
Who I want it to be: W
October 25th, 2005 at 6:29 pmWho I’d next most want it to be: Cheney
Mr. X = Grover Norquist
October 25th, 2005 at 6:29 pmYosemite Sam Bolton’s turning on the White House doesn’t add up to me — he’s got what he wants.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:29 pmHannah and Wurmser may be the underlings who blew the whistle and cut a deal.
A secret Mr. X? Amyone think it could be Powell?
Aint no x in my name, bitches.
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October 25th, 2005 at 6:30 pmMy guess it’s more like Mr. XXX, Jeff Gannon/Guckert himself, the male escort.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:30 pmI would say Truman Capote, but isn’t he dead?
OK then, maybe Ann Coulter? Just a secret wish, perhaps, but I must dream my little dreams.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:30 pmIt’s all of them, actually. It’s the Republican Party, the corporate community and conservatism in general, among others. Regardless what befalls these really rotten Bush bastards, that’s the lesson the American people must learn. And very likely they will not.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:30 pmMr. X=Ari the Liar.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:31 pmIt’s probably David Wurmser.
Via RawStory:
“David Wurmser, then a Middle East adviser to Vice President Dick Cheney on loan from the office of then-Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs John Bolton, met with Cheney and his chief of staff I. Lewis “Scooter†Libby in June 2003 and told Libby that Plame set up the Wilson trip. He asserted that it was a boondoggle, the sources said.”
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Cheney_aide_passed_Plames_name_to_1024.html
October 25th, 2005 at 6:33 pmIt’s Fitzmas Eve!
October 25th, 2005 at 6:33 pmI’ll throw in ten bucks and the name David Wurmser. Hannah’s lawyer’s stern denial was too direct for it to be him, IMO.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:34 pmBolton.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:36 pmYou guess all you want and tomorrow I will tell you who was indicted the foirsr time around. Tonight I am going to be chilling the bubbly and cooking up the Horses Douvers! Merry Fitzmas!
October 25th, 2005 at 6:36 pmBolton is a good guess, Tenet (not “tenant”) is definitely in the loop, but
have you all seen this? La
Repubblica’s Scoop, ConfirmedBerlusconi, ever eager to please Bush,
and Nicolo Pollari, his chief of SISMI, or Mil. Intel., arranged for the theft
of letterhead stationery from the Nigerien Embassy in Rome, that later appeared
in W’s SoU speech.
I suggest it was all done with the SPECIAL ASSISTANCE OF MICHAEL
LEDEEN, who is according to Ray McGovern a close assoc of the Italians,
and who quotes from his personal Italian copy of the works of Machiavelli in a
very revealing piece of his at the American Enterprise Inst. Machiavelli
for Moderns.
His Personal Dossier at AEI says:
October 25th, 2005 at 6:39 pm
Mr. X = Newt Gingrich (IMHO). Do a Yahoo search on “Newt Gingrich and Dick Cheney visits to CIA Iraq” – there are many hits. I would bet that he is the White House outsider. Check it out.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:40 pmDo you have to answer a question that was never asked?
What if Cheney was with Miller and Libby when Ms. Plame was outed. It would explain why Miller “protected” her source for 85 days. Using Libby as a diversion to protect Cheney.
Cheney is a source to protect.
Did the special prosecutor ask if others were present in their conversations, such as the informal lunch?
October 25th, 2005 at 6:42 pmDid CBS get this news from the guy who gave them the TANG memos?
Anyways.. we know that the end of this Liberal charade will occur tomorrow.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:43 pmThey just showed the clip on CBS…no mention of Mr. X at all, but lots of focus on Cheney as lying, though not committing a crime.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:43 pmIt’s someone with a tie to Bolton.
Why do you think the White House wouldn’t release the docs from Bolton’s request for CIA files on certain individuals. I’d be willing to bet that Joe Wilson was on that list.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:43 pmNo one will be indicted because no crime was committed. The only person that lied in the whole situation was Joe Wilson.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:44 pmThat is so not the conversation Schiffer had with Roberts on the midwest 5:30 feed. Roberts, paraphrased, fell back on saying that no one close to the case wants to go on record about indictments right now.
Did Fitz crack down some? Or is CBS resourcing it’s scoop?
October 25th, 2005 at 6:44 pmJust watched the CBS news and the entire conversation quoted above was not included in the report.
Why not?
Time pressure? Or some other kind of pressure?
October 25th, 2005 at 6:46 pmCould it be Tony Blair?
October 25th, 2005 at 6:47 pmgrover norquist
October 25th, 2005 at 6:48 pmCan somebody delete my prev. try (#54)? You don’t have a preview button so my linewraps were bad. This is the same, better I hope.
Bolton is a good guess, Tenet (not “tenant”) is definitely in the loop, but have you all seen this? La
Repubblica’s Scoop, Confirmed
Berlusconi, ever eager to please Bush, and Nicolo Pollari, his chief of SISMI, or Mil. Intel., arranged for the theft of letterhead stationery from the Nigerien Embassy in Rome, that later appeared in W’s SoU speech.
I suggest it was all done with the SPECIAL ASSISTANCE OF MICHAEL LEDEEN, who is according to Ray McGovern a close assoc of the Italians, and who quotes from his personal Italian copy of the works of Machiavelli in a very revealing piece of his at the American Enterprise Inst.
Machiavelli for Moderns.
His Personal Dossier at AEI says:
October 25th, 2005 at 6:49 pmCome on Fitz, don’t disappoint America:
Bring this fucking Bush cabal down!
Yipppppppppeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
October 25th, 2005 at 6:50 pmI’ll have 10 USD on Ari Fleischer, please. “Outside the White House” is great dissembling.
If it turns out to mean truly never-inside-the-white-house/administration, I’ll go for 5 on Gannon and 5 on Fleitz, please..
October 25th, 2005 at 6:50 pmHow about Andy Card?
And it wouldn’t be suprising if it were indeed Cheney!
The question is will Bush see the damage done to him and FINALLY fire someone for incompetence.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:50 pm#60: No need to debate the obvious with you. You’ll learn the truth in the next couple of days.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:50 pmPatrick Fitzgerald really needs to stop leaking information like this to the press. We know he’s a desperate prosecutor who is trying to indict somebody for something to save face.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:51 pmPS:
“The only person that [sic] lied was Joe Wilson?”
I love it. So there were in fact WMD, and the aluminum pipes were what Judy Miller said they were, and we were in imminent danger of being blown up by nuclear weapons, and Saddam and Osama were allies and planned 9/11 together.
Oh, and Fitz is a stooge of the lefties.
Clearly it’s all a “liberal charade” and Ted Kennedy is behind it. No, maybe it’s Margaret Cho!
October 25th, 2005 at 6:51 pmits bolton. if not, Wurmser. bet the house on one of these two NeoClowns
October 25th, 2005 at 6:52 pmThat was yesterday’s CBS News broadcast.
Tonight, Roberts said there was ‘at least one’ indictment coming, and that the targets had been informed. No ‘Mr X.’ talk tonight.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:52 pm[No one will be indicted because no crime was committed. The only person that lied in the whole situation was Joe Wilson.
Comment by rdn — October 25, 2005 @ 6:44 pm]
Pure, unadulterated insanity.
Why did the CIA pursue this?
Why did John Ashcroft recuse himself?
Why do we know the name of Brewster Jennings?
The Senate investigation proved Wilson did not lie.
You should try honesty and reality. It’ll be a shock to the system, but you’ll survive.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:53 pmDon’t stop believin’, RDN. Hold onto that feelin’.
Besides, shouldn’t you wait for tomorrow’s Squawking Points in order to know what to say?
do I sense a shiver, RDN?
October 25th, 2005 at 6:53 pmOh please God…
Dubya – I’d pee in my pants….
October 25th, 2005 at 6:54 pmDid CBS get this news from the guy who gave them the TANG memos?
Anyways.. we know that the end of this Liberal charade will occur tomorrow.
Gary…you sound…surprisingly nervous…
October 25th, 2005 at 6:54 pmWhy did the CIA pursue this?
Typical procedure. It happens all the time.
Why did John Ashcroft recuse himself?
To shut leftists like you up.
Why do we know the name of Brewster Jennings?
Because Valerie Plame put it down as her job when she donated money to Al Gore.
The Senate investigation proved Wilson did not lie.
What investigation?
October 25th, 2005 at 6:56 pmAnother question to the Forum-
If Rove and Libby are cellies, I wonder who’ll be the Pitcher and who’ll be the Catcher?
October 25th, 2005 at 6:56 pmNeD, IRI, CC, RDN- any bets?
Gary,
For your reading enjoyment, from Andy McCarthy at the National Review Online:
I’m too busy today to be monitoring the media, but Ive gotten a lot of questions about this from people who say some conservatives are hitting the airwaves with preemptive suggestions that my friend Pat Fitzgerald may not be as apolitical as his press clippings indicate. In particular, I am being pointed to favorable comments made by Senator Schumer about Pat’s competence and integrity.
Let me just say this. Pat is at least as apolitical as his press clippings suggest. And just because Senator Schumer says something doesn’t make it wrong.
Pat Fitzgerald is the best prosecutor I have ever seen. By a mile. He is also the straightest shooter I have ever seen – by at least that much. And most importantly, he is a good man.
This investigation has gone on for 22 months. Most of the evidence was collected before autumn 2004 – the last year of delay has mainly been caused by reporters challenging subpoenas in the federal courts.
If Pat were political – or, worse, if he somehow had it in for the Bush administration – it was fully within his power to return indictments in the weeks before the November elections, which would almost certainly have cinched things for Senator Kerry. It is something, I am quite certain, it would never even have occurred to him to do. The only thing the guy I know would do is bring charges or close the case without charges when the facts of the investigation warranted doing so.
I suppose McCarthy’s a Bush-hatin’ liberal too, now?
October 25th, 2005 at 6:56 pmDream of Mr. X:
Feith, Wolfie, Rummy?
October 25th, 2005 at 6:57 pmI say it’s Wurmser, but I agree with some of the comments from above that we are being played a bit here. If the only charges are perjury and obstruction of justice and they aren’t able to nail the traitor that did this heinous deed, it’s not much to celebrate because they will have gotten away with the crime.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:59 pmIf the Rove and Libby are secondary players, then Cheney is Mr. X.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:59 pmWhy did the CIA pursue this?
Typical procedure. It happens all the time.
I see. So, Gary (since you apparently are a lawyer who knows all about this), is it standard procedure for the Justice Department to approve a special prosecutor to follow up on these bogus, routine charges when there’s so obviously nothing to them?
Just curious as to your experienced, legal opinion.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:59 pm[...] BREAKING: CBS To Report Fitzgerald Will Make His Decision Known Tomorrow La Repubblica’s Scoop, Confirmed [...]
October 25th, 2005 at 6:59 pmAny chance that John Bolton will be snared in this first round of indictments?
October 25th, 2005 at 6:59 pmThe REAL story is the bogus documents. Again, the REAL STORY is the bogus documents used by Bush/Cheney to trump up a war. See link below:
October 25th, 2005 at 7:00 pmhttp://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=10506
Mr X could be Karen Hughes.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:00 pm#
“Why did the CIA pursue this?
Typical procedure. It happens all the time.
Why did John Ashcroft recuse himself?
To shut leftists like you up.
Why do we know the name of Brewster Jennings?
Because Valerie Plame put it down as her job when she donated money to Al Gore.
The Senate investigation proved Wilson did not lie.
What investigation?
Comment by Gary Ruppert — October 25, 2005 @ 6:56 pm”
“My God- the straws are…slipping…right through my… fingers!” – Gary
October 25th, 2005 at 7:01 pmjparker,
October 25th, 2005 at 7:02 pmYou got that impression, too? I’m seeing a wingnut in a full-on meltdown. It’s kind of fascinating, in a slow-motion-train-wreck sort of way.
[...] This post indicates that there was sertain Mister X who, besides Rove and Libby, was giving Plame identity. [...]
October 25th, 2005 at 7:03 pmYeah- it would be sad if it weren’t fun
October 25th, 2005 at 7:03 pmHey “Gary Ruppert”. The real story is the bogus documents:
http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=10506
Looks like your boys have blood all over them.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:03 pmIf someone within the White House told someone outside the government of this highly classified info, isn’t that, in itself, a crime…or not?
October 25th, 2005 at 7:03 pm“Why do we know the name of Brewster Jennings?
Because Valerie Plame put it down as her job when she donated money to Al Gore.”
Sigh. If the basic concept of a front operation is lost on you, what chance do you have of dealing with complimacated, grownup things like perjury and non-proliferation?
Run along to LGF and play with the other children, eh?
October 25th, 2005 at 7:04 pmThe White House war on Joe Wilson isn’t the exception to the rule. It is the rule.
Finally, President George W. Bush is being punished for his “Politics of Payback”. After five years of savage and baseless attacks on the likes of Richard Clarke, General Eric Shinseki, Paul O’Neill, Jim Jeffords, and Richard Foster, the small, mean-spirited, venal and vengeful George W. Bush is paying the price…
For the full story, see:
“Blowback: Bush, Plame and the Politics of Payback.”
October 25th, 2005 at 7:04 pm[...] The System Works. The wheels of justice grind slowly, but grind they do, and they grind the bad guys into dust. BREAKING: CBS To Report Fitzgerald Will Make His Decision Known Tomorrow [...]
October 25th, 2005 at 7:04 pmDavid Wurmser. I thought it had pretty well discussed in the lefty blogosphere. As Raw Story reported, Wurmser was perfect: aide in VP Cheney’s office tasked to infight with CIA on interpretation of intelligence data and on loan from Bolton’s office. A real neocon, I think.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:05 pmNothing in the quoted material suggests the indictments will be limited to only three people.
It seems that attorneys for Rove and Libby are saying, if Fizty does not indict the other leaker, then it won’t be a fair or legitimate process, and not fair to indict them for conspiracy, obstruction or perjury. This is defendent counterspin.
The odds are this CBS-hyped X-man, if he/she is a WH outsider, could be Hannah, Matalin, Fleisher or anyone in Bolton’s shop at State.
But since we have consistent reports that Wurmser and hannah have flipped, and many speculations that Fleisher did as well, then who knows.
I’m sure Libby and Rove’s attorneys know the identity of the other key leaker, whom Novak spun as “no partisan hack.”
But the key thing to remember is this: the transcript above does not preclude the possibility that more than three people will be indicted.
Unless there is significant material from the broadcast not included here, don’t assume there are only three perps.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:05 pmCould be “Gigi” (Gannon/Gueckert) and John Roberts would know because he’s the one who showed “Gigi” around the White House when he first arrived.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:06 pm[...] BREAKING: CBS To Report Fitzgerald Will Make His Decision Known Tomorrow [...]
October 25th, 2005 at 7:06 pm“Did CBS get this news from the guy who gave them the TANG memos?”
“Anyways.. we know that the end of this Liberal charade will occur tomorrow.”
Comment by Gary Ruppert — October 25, 2005 @
Hehehe….you mean the ones that were never PROVEN to be bogus? The ones that outlined how Dubya is an AWOL COWARD AND LIAR? Funny world. Bush criminally shirks his TANG commitments, and Rather gets discredited for it. Go figure.
Something tells me these lying bastards aren’t going to find Fitz as easy to railroad.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:06 pmJames Wolsey… Didn’t he once head up the CIA? And isnt’ he one of those (neo)cons?
October 25th, 2005 at 7:07 pmCheck out
http://quickseason.blogspot.com/2005/10/this-is-not-your-fathers-cover-up.html
and have your dreams come true!
October 25th, 2005 at 7:07 pmGEORGE TENET
Novak said he got it from somebody who wasn’t a blatant partisan. Who would know the CIA roster better than Tenet?
October 25th, 2005 at 7:08 pmPaulette, oooh, Woolsey is a juicy name to add to the mix. He’s up to his eyeballs in Neocon/CIA slime. Haven’t heard his name at all on this though.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:10 pmI was brought up in a small middle class hard working town in PA.. And during my life I was told that anyone who speaks out of the side of his mouth is “full of shit”. Another words someone who may not be trusted and someone who is full of hot air.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:15 pmAs I follow the present Administration from the (s)election of president in the year 2000, to the 9/11 event on the twin towers, the midterm selections and the (s)election of 2004 I have grown more and skeptical of the real world around us in this U.S.A..
THe BIG DICK is the man in trouble … that is Dick Cheney.. the Vice PResident of the US…
IN my estimation the man is the real thing … he is BIG TROUBLE… If anyone to topple, he is IT..
Especially when most everything with public intentions was done in private … that is our defense strategy.. our energy policy … who knows what else …
the need to schmooze some our supreme judges.. and the need to develop fear in those who question his motives..
His advantage is he was not elected and he knows it …
I just watched the 7 o,clock CBS News all references to Mr. X etc., are gone! What’s up?
October 25th, 2005 at 7:15 pmIt’s Bush. Why else would the White House be trying to make a sacificial lamb of Cheney the last 2 days? However, he will be fully exonerated because he’s been in a coma longer than Terri Schiavo, the sixties to be more precise.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:20 pmI’m betting it’s Ken Mehlman. He’s a Rove protege, with ethics and integrity (lack of) comparable to Rove’s and he’s tight with Novakula. Just a guess.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:21 pmAri ?
October 25th, 2005 at 7:22 pmPerhaps they are going to indict some of the lower down figures first and then work their way up?
Or are they going to do a shotgun and blast everyone at once?
October 25th, 2005 at 7:24 pmOf course Mr. X is Cheney. He and Rove run everything.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:25 pmThis is interesting:
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/ind/woolsey/woolsey.php
It seems Woolsey profiteered very nicely from war with Iraq. He has a colorful bio and he’s well connected inside AND outside of Washington.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:25 pmThis is also very interesting:
http://home.earthlink.net/~platter/neo-conservatism/woolsey.html
October 25th, 2005 at 7:28 pmEveryone knows I am Mr. X!
http://www.mrxswebpage.com/
October 25th, 2005 at 7:28 pmWhat “Mr. X”? Reporters have already fingered Rove and Libby. Are they saying the reporters are lying? And anyway,this is “Scooter and Karl said,” which only means they are spinning to make themselves look less guilty. That’s all I see here. At this point, i would be disinclined to believe anything Scooter and Karl put out there.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:29 pmHehehe….you mean the ones that were never PROVEN to be bogus?
Fake, but accurate, right?
If the basic concept of a front operation is lost on you, what chance do you have of dealing with complimacated, grownup things like perjury and non-proliferation?
If Plame never put down Brewster Jennings on that form, we would have never known about it.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:33 pmSeriously, this CBS report is GOP spin.
1. Rove and Libby are “minor players”
2. If “Mr. X” is not indicted, then there’s no way Rove and Libby should be
The Rove/Libby camps got target letters and now they throw this out there. It is even possible that Mr. X is a figment of Karl Rove’s imagination (or at least Mr. X’s culpability is); having run out of real fall guys, they will make one up if need be.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:35 pmIt’s either Bill Clinton or Hillary Clinton, one of them told Cheney ,who told Karl, who told Scooter, who told Bob, who told Judy, because we all know, everything is always “the Clinton’s fault”
October 25th, 2005 at 7:36 pmMy dream list: chimpy,veep,turd-b, scooter and and and
October 25th, 2005 at 7:41 pmROBERT NOVAK!
Umm, Gary? This is called treason. Time to wake up.
[Wolf Blitzer: Does the CIA believe that there was damage done to US national security as a result of Valerie Plame Wilson's name being leaked?
David Ensor, CNN National Security Correspondent: I'm told that in the day that it was leaked there was a quick look done, as there routinely would be, at whether there was damage. Officials simply won't go into the details, but I did speak to one official who did say yes, there was damage, this woman had a long career and she was posing as someone else, and all those people who saw her now know that she wasn't the person they thought that they were dealing with.]
October 25th, 2005 at 7:42 pmI am amused and bewildered when I read comments from Gary and others who refuse to accept the hard truth. Americans do not want to see their Government in turmoil. Americans do not want this to get any worse than it already has. I don’t know anybody who is actually “happy” to see what has happened to our government. Gary and others have the mistaken notion that some of us want to see our government in disarray. That is not the case. For myself I can say that I want those guilty of perpetuation a crime against America (be it perjury, treason, willful negligence….take your pick) to be held accountable.
I think it is worth reading Pat Buchanan’s perspective on this issue. Surely Gary and those agree with him, can not claim that that Buchanan is a weak liberal.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=9161
October 25th, 2005 at 7:42 pmJOHN BOLTON JOHN BOLTON JOHN BOLTON!
October 25th, 2005 at 7:42 pmI also suspect tomorrow night by this time, W will be walking the halls talking to the paintings in a drunken and cocaine induced stupor–just like Tricky Dick.
Imagine what its going to be like when he gets to his Daddy’s paintin’!
“Daddy, I done gone got myself in a fix! Help me Daddy, Help me!”
October 25th, 2005 at 7:45 pmMichael Ledeen, described as Rove’s brain concerning foreign policy, could be the elusive “Mr. X”.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:45 pmIf Plame never put down Brewster Jennings on that form, we would have never known about it.
Gary,
Come on, man, this is really straightforward stuff.
- The fact that Valerie Wilson existed was not a secret.
- The fact that Valerie Wilson worked for Brewster Jennings was not a secret; in fact, it was part of her cover.
- That is one reason why outing her as a NOC was a BAD THING — other secrets were also exposed in cascade fashion.
This is so blazingly simple and obvious even a child could grasp it. Do you really expect us to believe that you honestly don’t?
October 25th, 2005 at 7:46 pmRuppert.I challenge you to show us one single credible shred of evidence that the documents Rather based his assertions on were forgeries or fakes, or contained false information. Anyone that has done even cursury investigation into Bush’s treatment of his TANG responsibilities knows he was an AWOL coward that managed to escape justice because daddy pulled the lying coccaine snorting drunken whelp out of hot water.
http://bushnews.com/awol.htm
October 25th, 2005 at 7:47 pmMichael Jackson!
October 25th, 2005 at 7:47 pmI’m listening to the news………it’s Cheney.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:47 pm#122 – BelmontShore – That’s pretty intense. Why are we not hearing more about this? I know, stupid question.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:49 pmPaulette,
Remember after 9/11 when some other mysterious Mr. X had made large investments on “put” options in United and American airlines? I guarantee Woolsey knows who did that deed, Cheney knows too.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:49 pmWhen you combine naming a CIA Agent, with Brewster Jennings and then say that no company exists, it kinda threatens the entire CIA brass plate company set up over 20 years ago, to investigate nuclear proliferation, at a time when NP was the country’s greatest fear.
That’s T-R-E-A-S-O-N.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:52 pmAnd Woolsey was also palsy-walsy with Chalabi AND Cheney and I suspect Judy Miller too.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:52 pmI need the sanity of Keith olbermann coming right up!
[#122 - BelmontShore - That’s pretty intense. Why are we not hearing more about this? I know, stupid question.
Comment by Paulette — October 25, 2005 @ 7:49 pm]
Because the “liberal” media won’t ask serious and direct questions of the government. Because the Senate Intelligence Committee is headed by Pat Roberts, who is HELLBENT on obfuscating, frustrating and stonewalling any inquiries about this violation of national security and Act of Treason. Pat Roberts is a disgrace, in a Party of disgraces.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:55 pmwho?
October 25th, 2005 at 7:58 pmThat is one reason why outing [Plame] as a NOC was a BAD THING — other secrets were also exposed in cascade fashion.
Plame was not covert after she was outed by Aldrich Ames
October 25th, 2005 at 7:59 pmDream of Mr. X: Feith, Wolfie, Rummy? Comment by Mick — October 25, 2005 @ 6:57 pm
If it is someone outside the White House my guess would be Bolton, but he supposedly wasn’t interviewed. That would help explain the visits to Miller when she was in jail.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:00 pmIf Mr. X is inside the CIA, all hell will break loose. This would put Fitzgerald at the epicenter of the CIA-White House stovepipe for Iraq-intelligence.
I believe, however, Mr. X is likely to be David Wurmser. My head also tells me Fitzgerald might only reprimand officials for questionable conduct instead of handing indictments. I hope I’m wrong.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:01 pm[Plame was not covert after she was outed by Aldrich Ames
Comment by Gary Ruppert — October 25, 2005 @ 7:59 pm]
Wow. No wonder you’re a Repug. You’re only interested in spewing lies, half truth and more lies. When shut down, you just create the next red herring and/or lie. Constantly moving, trying desperately not to be pinned down or have to admit you/they are wrong.
Pathetic.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:04 pmA word to the Republicans/”conservatives” posting here who continue to defend Bush, Cheney, et al. Have you no shame? Bush hasn’t done enough damage to this country yet that you would cheer him on to do more? Not enough innocent young men, women and children have died yet in Iraq to satisfy you? Our country’s infrastructure hasn’t collapsed enough yet for you because this administration would rather waste money bombing and then rebuilding Iraq and lining the pockets of Halliburton instead of spending on improving the United States? The environment hasn’t been disregarded and put aside enough yet in your opinion because this administration would rather kowtow to the whims of oil companies/corporations? Wake up and drop the poser BS. We all know you hate to be wrong, but let’s face it: This administration is the most corrupt of any, ever. It’s not worth defending. Why not defend the United States instead against the true terrorists: Bush and company.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:05 pmSomebody, somewhere, wants a DO OVER!
These are people who want to break the rules and live their lives on the edge of the rules. They deserve everything they get.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:07 pmGary,
Did you read my link in #122? I doubt it, because if you did, you would stop posting your desperate comments.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:08 pm“BelmontShore – That’s pretty intense. Why are we not hearing more about this? I know, stupid question.”
Because no one was listening……
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/22/politics/22INTE.html?position=&ei=5070&en=57eeecaeef4b0bc6&hp=&ex=1130385600&adxnnl=1&pagewanted=print&adxnnlx=1130285525-doTXIigdgtCeIxxyjd9OQg
October 25th, 2005 at 8:10 pmthe italian parlimentary investigation of the forged documents that claimed Saddam bought “yellow cake” from Niger has been seen by Patrick Fitzgerald. The question is.. did bush see them? Who put those 16 words in his state of the Union address on jan 28, 2003? if you all go to this site.. http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/polling.. to the left on first page is a list of items in time line.. leading up to the war on iraq. All documents are there. When you see and you read , you finally know, they have wanted this war for a long time. They have wanted Saddam for a long time. They have wanted the usa tax dollars for war for a long time. If you also go to http://www.newamericacentury.org .. .and go to “letters and statements”.. and scroll down to the letter to president clinton on iraq , dated jan 26, 1998 and read the 18 names who signed the manefesto asking Clinton to bomb Iraq, you then know how long they have been planning the war on iraq.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:11 pmAl Franken on K.O.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:12 pmIt has been reported Jeff Gannon testified before the Grand Jury. They were very satisfied by his in-depth knowledge of the working of the White House. It is reported he was given the exact plans to bomb Iraq 4 hours before Colin Powells.
The media refused to investigate why a male prostitute had access of the White House for 2 years. goggle:
October 25th, 2005 at 8:15 pmFranklin Credit Union Coverup.
I’m listening to the news………it’s Cheney.
Ummm, in MillerSpeak, that’s “a former staffer to Gerald Ford”….
Cheers,
October 25th, 2005 at 8:20 pmJeff Gannon, the male prostitute/internet whore, had access to the White House because, like Marilyn Monroe, he was “doing” someone in the White House. It’s anybody’s guess who that someone might be. Karl Rove, perhaps? His anti-gay stance points to someone who’s trying to deflect attention from himself.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:21 pmC’mon. Isn’t Gary just satirizing an idiotic Republican?
I don’t post here, but it is hard to believe someone is really that stupid.
If he’s really believes what he’s typing, then Lord Almightly have mercy on his pitiful soul.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:21 pmEh! Franken’s just not that funny to me anymore. I think the last time I tuned into his show he was having a love fest for martyr Judith Miller with her lawyer Floyd Abrams as his guest. That’s WHY it was the last time I tuned in. It all comes back to me now.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:21 pmIts some lying pro Bush sleeze who puts political interests of the party above the security of the country…hmmmm that narrows it down to about a couple of million..
October 25th, 2005 at 8:26 pm#127
The Bush Doc’s. were fake; though their contents could have been based on some truth.
I am a typewriter collector, and they could not have been produced on any typewriter made at the time except for an IBM Composer, which cost $3,600 minimum in 1973 (or $15,850 2005 dollars) and for which extra fonts, which would have been necessary for producing the alleged memo, would have cost extra.
I do not think that the Texas Air National Guard would have possessed such a machine.
I do not think that the Texas Air National Gaurd would have used such a machine to produce a “memo for the file.”
Great pains would have been required to produced the superscripted “Th” in “111th FIS”, requiring the changing of typeballs, alignment of text, etc., precise to a millimeter.
Again, not something that I normally do for a “memo for the file”.
The memo uses proportional spacing, something very difficult to do at the time as well.
Three lines of the text are perfectly centered, something a typewriter available at the time could not easily do.
The memo formatting does not conform to the US Army offical style guide.
A MS Word document produced on a MAC running OS X is exactly identical to the Killian Memos.
An award of $50,000 has been offered to anyone who can reproduce these documents on a typewriter of the time, NO ONE has yet to claim the prize.
I think that “Pissed off American” should explain how the Texas National Guard would have been able to do so.
See this link for a better description than I can give:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killian_memos
October 25th, 2005 at 8:29 pmPS: I agree with the underlying assertion that Bush was up to no good instead of serving in the Guard like he was supposed to.
But the facts are the facts, the documents are fakes.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:34 pm#144 – That link didn’t work for me. Is this the one?:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm
October 25th, 2005 at 8:36 pmOops I meant #145 – PNAC letter to Clinton. Sorry ’bout that.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:38 pmHoly Cow CNN reporting VP Cheney will announce his resg 2 marrow, Reporting VP RCVD papers from Fitz Today. Chris Matthews on now saying told you so…….
October 25th, 2005 at 8:38 pm[...] CBS reporter John Roberts has got the political earth shaking with this report: Lawyers familiar with the case think Wednesday is when special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald will make known his decision, and that there will be indictments. Supporters say Rove and the vice president’s chief of staff, Scooter Libby, are in legal jeopardy. But they insisted today the two are secondary players, that it was an unidentified Mr. X who actually gave the name of CIA agent V alerie Plame to reporters. Fitzgerald knows who Mr. X is, they say, and if he isn’t indicted, there’s no way Rove or Libby should be. But charges may not focus on the leak at all. Obstruction of justice or perjury are real possibilities. Did Rove or Libby change statements made under oath? Did they deliberately leave critical facts out of their testimony or did they honestly forget? Some Republicans urged Rove to step down if indicted. Not a happy prospect for president Bush. [...]
October 25th, 2005 at 8:40 pmMy money’s on Cheney. No wait, I think it was Reagan. On the other hand, I think it might have been Barry Goldwater. No wait, James Baker. Or is it William Buckley. On the other hand, it could be Margaret Thatcher.
You liberals are setting your expectations so high that you are bound to be seriously disappointed.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:43 pm#156
One could only guess, in that case, who the new Veep would be???
October 25th, 2005 at 8:44 pmEveryone – Gary Ruppert is a troll who posts constantly on americ blog and daily kos. The best way to deal with the idiot is to ignore him. He is irrelevant – and he knows absolutley nothing – poor man.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:45 pm“Perhaps Mr. X is pictured here.”
http://www.perrspectives.com/images/banana_repubs_100305.jpg
I knew it! It’s Tom Noe! That bastard!
October 25th, 2005 at 8:46 pmI just don’t like to see any of those comments out there, unchallenged. Regardless of whether he’s a troll, there are a lot of folks that actually believe that crap.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:46 pm#160
Thanks for the “heads up”
October 25th, 2005 at 8:46 pmCan’t wait for tomorrow. Should be a good show. Especially if the indictments come down with multiple charges. Now that it seems that the FBI were canvassing the Wilson neighborhood as late as last night. That can only mean that treason is still on the table. Along with perjury and obstruction of justice. Sleep well tonight babies. Tomorrow will bring us the first justice in five long ugly years.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:47 pmWow you guys are a Hoot, A hoot………. Look at me I’m mister X.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:47 pm[#156 - Holy Cow CNN reporting VP Cheney will announce his resg 2 marrow, Reporting VP RCVD papers from Fitz Today. Chris Matthews on now saying told you so…….
Comment by Demidumino — October 25, 2005 @ 8:38 pm]
That’s one down, it doesn’t get really tasty until Rove gets thrown over. It’s gotta be Rove, too.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:49 pm#156 I’m watching CNN, how/when did they mention Cheney? I havn’t seen them talking about it since I turned it on around 8:40
October 25th, 2005 at 8:49 pmDon’t post as Gary Ruppert. Let him be an ass all by himself.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:50 pmGary Rupper is really Rupaul in drag. Or maybe Rupaul is Gary Ruppert in drag. Either way, he’s one of those paranoid, deranged liberal losers who can’t stand the USA, loves leftist dictators like Castro, and will be sorely disappointed tomorrow if the country is not severely damaged by indictments.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:50 pmhopefully Mr. X is Bush
October 25th, 2005 at 8:52 pm#156 I’m watching CNN, how/when did they mention Cheney? I havn’t seen them talking about it since I turned it on around 8:40
Comment by Eddie — October 25, 2005 @ 8:49 pm
You know what? It’s bullshit. Chris Matthews is an MSNBC guy, not a CNN guy. I fell for it.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:53 pmMark Felt?
October 25th, 2005 at 8:54 pmThe signateurs of the PNAC letter either are or were in this regime – I mean administration.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm
October 25th, 2005 at 8:54 pmRujppert IS NOT leftist as Lennon posted here. That is bullshit. Ruppert is a reactionary right wing no-nothing fanatic. Don’t let the faux posts fool you. Ruppert deserves no attention.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:57 pmCorrections 1. Ruppert, 2. know-nothing. I am tired.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:58 pmLifted straight from Reuters a few munites ago:
Marc Lefkowitz, who lives across the street from CIA officer Valerie Plame and her husband, Joseph Wilson, said he was questioned by two
FBI agents on Monday night about whether he knew about Plame’s work at the CIA before her identity as a covert operative was leaked to the press in 2003.
Two lawyers involved in the case said the line of questioning could be a sign that federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald intends to charge administration officials for the leak itself, in addition to possible charges for easier-to-prove crimes like perjury and obstruction of justice.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:02 pmMy neighbor down the street said that she saw Mrs. Kravitz looking out of her curtain while he was mowing the lawn. Based upon such facts, the only conclusion is that Bush and Cheney plotted to reveal the identity of Plame and that they are going to spend the rest of their lives in jail after Fitz gets finished with them.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:05 pmLenno, that’s pretty funny. See that, even Nazis have a sense of humor.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:09 pm[...] Think Progress From the CBS Evening News, to air at 6:30PM: [...]
October 25th, 2005 at 9:11 pmMs. Kravitz is Fitzgerald’s mother in law.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:13 pmDoes anybody else picture Cheney getting word that he’s indicted and smiling widely as if he loves the prospect of such a challenge. Licking his chops ready to eat his obstacles for lunch. These guys are murderers of the highest order, a little legal trouble is probably fun for him, keep the heart pumping and all.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:16 pm[...] Via Judd of Think Progress–indictments tomorrow? [...]
October 25th, 2005 at 9:17 pmI’m in the Bolton camp. It would explain ALOT.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:18 pmLennon and Ringo – are you guys related? Do you play in a band together?
October 25th, 2005 at 9:22 pmNot related, but brothers nonetheless……all you need is love Paulette.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:25 pmBrittney Spears is the undercover leak. She and Michael Jackson met regularly with CIA operatives in Iraq and Iran. NAIL BRITT!!!!!!!!
October 25th, 2005 at 9:26 pmPer ROSCON, Tenet told Bush, Bush told Laura, Laura told Cheney, Cheney told Rove, Rove told Bush who then told Libby, Libby told Laura, who then told Barbra, who told GHB, who then told Ken, who then told the Astro’s manager, who then told Libby who then told Miller, Miller told Novak, who told Frist who then Told Plame,who told Wilson who then told Tenent who then told Libby, who told Bush, who then told Cheney who Said ” I know I know”.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:27 pmThe Astro’s manager got a call from Fritz who is a closet CHI town fan and said” If the SOX loose than all bets are off. Now you know..
SOX in 5. No one goes to jail, Fitz is the next AG, Gonzales to the Bench when Miers steps away…. Now You know the whole story.
These libs postings make me laugh. If anyone lied under oath they should get the same sentence that Sandy Burglar got. I believe his was a true crime.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:28 pmSo what’s the story? Do we get the names of the indicted tomorrow or do we have to wait til Thursday? Does anyone have a definitive answer on this?
October 25th, 2005 at 9:28 pmI second an earlier comment by someone – You guys really ARE a hoot! Blessings to all!
October 25th, 2005 at 9:29 pmIt was Mandy Moore who supplied the info to Fitzgerald. Any moron can figure this out. I received the documentation from bill burkett this afternoon. I swear the info is true.
dan da man
October 25th, 2005 at 9:29 pmMy cat eats his own poo….
October 25th, 2005 at 9:30 pmTenet is Mr. X, and will presumably be indicted on the substantive espionage/leak issues. He had the most exposure at the outset, and was probably given up early by Novak. That puts Tenet in the “cooperation” role, but I wouldn’t rely to much on anything he gave me if I were Fitzgerald. Libby and Rove will get the perjury and obstruction treatment. All placed under seal to exert maximum pressure on the “principals” while the investigation continues.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:32 pmGrand Jury testimony of Karl Rove, the White House Deputy Chief of Staff of the United States (COSTUS), leaked by Rove-ing reporter (humor). How much will COSTUS cost us?
It is posted at: http://rovesayswholeakedfirst.blogspot.com
Please keep my identity a secret. Double super Secret.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:34 pmMiddle-aged, Middle-of-the-road, Mid-Westerner
The funny part of these repug dorks bashing Wilson
October 25th, 2005 at 9:34 pmis the fact that the IAEA also found the Niger documents
to be forged. They found the whole thing to be untrue.
So.. attack Wilson all you want you f*ckers. Your will has nothing
to do with the outcome of reality. This is out of your hands and
the whole administration (not to mention Delay and Frist) is crumbling
into nothing. Neocons will suffer endlessly for this as well. Your name
is dirt in the eyes of all good Americans. The party is over.
Find a rock and hide.
My bro roger supplied the secret information to the press from his close contacts at Jimmy’s tavern on 12th street here in hog heaven, ark. I just laugh and almost have a heart attack watching all you yokels trying to figure out who outed the dumb bitch agent. I fooled you’all so many times,,,now my bro roger is conning the country. Also,,if anyone sees Janet Reno,,,tell her to send Hillary home. Those two carpet munchers cant be kept apart anmore.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:34 pm#190 – Jay – No definite answer here – I was thinking the same thing, that we’ll have to wait until Thursday! It can be crazy making! We’ll just have to “..get by with a little help…” from Ringo, Lennon and McCartney.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:35 pmDoes this mean Tenet will have to give his back his Presidential Medal of Freedom or will they just rename his the Presidential Medal of Treason? I’m not so sure they could pin this on Tenet. He knows where all of the bodies are buried.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:36 pm#193,
I was wondering what happened to him. Ingriguing.
#196,
There is NO 12th St. in Hog Heaven. Therefore, you can’t really be Bill Clinton.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:38 pmTO: Happy to see You Squirm
PROZAC only owrks when you take it as directed. Nice cover on the F-bomb. Just one * and wow took me two minutes to figure it out. Then I laughed and laughed, then I forgot what I was laughing about, wnet to turn off my monitor and there it was again. Got pee so bad but cant stop laughing long enough to stand up.
Here, here try this one out see if I code as good as you…
October 25th, 2005 at 9:38 pmYour a M*ggot
he..he..he..he..he
Super duper inside source told me that the X factor is Mary Matlain.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:39 pmB.S.
Any young girls want to get together tonight?? I supply the cigars and the good times. Perhpas I can teach you how to french kiss??? I am a good instructor…..I taught a young lady named Chelsea.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:39 pmLevity is good. Beatles get my vote for greatest band of all time, with U2 a close runner up. Anybody?
October 25th, 2005 at 9:39 pmOops
October 25th, 2005 at 9:40 pmMary Matalin
It’s difficult to comprehend that Bush did not know at least about the attempts of Cheney, et. al., to cover their buns. Thing is, that guys up this high usually get light sentences or totally let off no matter how bad their crime.
There will be the right wing holler of “politics”, plus accusations that Fitzgerald had an ax to grind.
And how many in our history who’ve gotton up as high as the White House, when caught doing any crimes, have done much, if any “real time”?
When you look at our history of these affairs the Water Gate bunch all got off – basically – as did the Iran-Contra gang.
If there’s any light in this it may be that we have seen one government individual, Fitzgerald, who couldn’t be scared (you know at least someone probably tried) off of his case.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:41 pmClinton: peace, prosperity, a united, safe America.
Bush: war, debt as far as the eye can see, constant fear, divisiveness.
I’ll take Slick Willy any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:42 pmDont forget that Clinton got off too….OOps did that sound naughty?
October 25th, 2005 at 9:43 pmI heard that Cheney will take the 5th if indicted. The mission is to protect Bush at all costs. The end game -install Rice as Veep. This is the lead up to 2008
October 25th, 2005 at 9:44 pmB.S
Demi,
Bush is a recovering alcoholic with a cocaine jonesin history, a mental midget who may actually be borderline retarded. Once again, give me the guy that likes to get his pole smoked in the Oval office any day.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:46 pmDefinltely U-2, also Traffic/Stevie Winwood, Stones, Peter Gabriel…too many to name. Yes, “music is the doctor”…going for a visit now.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:47 pmAs a matter of fact, as much as even I thought Kerry was too shifty and political in his campaign and didn’t fight for what he knew was right, he may have been a great President. He’s got an intellect on par with Clinton, plus the balls to actually fight the war of his generation.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:49 pmClinton: Whitewater, Brown, Cisnero, Kosovo, Long Beach, BIMBO, miltary……HU..HU BIMBO, BROWN DESK, White House, Under Blue dress, HU….Hu…IS, IS for christ sake IS. RUBY RIDGE-WACO-KOSOVO
October 25th, 2005 at 9:49 pmI’ll take KKKLINTON ANY DAY OVER………OVER………OVER………..HU.
Rice for President 2008!!!!
Hey where were the Bush girls after Katrina hit, when everyone else volunteered?
October 25th, 2005 at 9:49 pmI don’t think “Bush is a recovering alcoholic”. He’s either drinking or a “dry drunk”. Neither are good.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:50 pmX = W
It’s simple math.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:52 pmStones are right up there, Peter Gabriel is also outstanding. I’ll throw in Springsteen and Don Henley.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:52 pmWe get the CBS news in Auckland, via Murdoch’s Sky TV each night. Given that we are 20 hours ahead of Washington DC, when the CBS news is on here, it’s 2:30am in Washington and I’d always assumed that we were watching a broadcast of the previous day’s US news.
Here’s the wierd part — we saw that bit on CBS news *yesterday* here. I’m referring to the “Update” listed above, where John Roberts (the newscaster) and Bob Scheiffer are speculating about the identity of Mr. X. That was broadcast in New Zealand at about 2:45 am *this morning*, Oct. 25th, Washington DC Time — a full 20 hours before Think Progress is reporting that it aired in the US. This impies that the CBS news is recorded almost a day ahead of schedule– this is wierd.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:53 pmBush Rocks!!!!
October 25th, 2005 at 9:53 pmHis tax cuts have made me millions!!!!!
Suck on this wad….yeah!!!!
JAY, jay what are you talking about…I love to get my poll smoked by people named Jay. MMMMMMMMMMM Jay your my friend.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:53 pmMr. X is Cartman.
October 25th, 2005 at 9:53 pmDo we even know everyone who testified?
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October 25th, 2005 at 9:56 pm“The best place for the facts to be done is by somebody who’s spending time investigating it.” —George W. Bush, on the probe into how CIA agent Valerie Plame’s identity was leaked, Washington D.C., July 18, 2005
October 25th, 2005 at 9:58 pm“I’m looking forward to a good night’s sleep on the soil of a friend.” —George W. Bush, on visiting Denmark, Washington D.C., June 29, 2005
October 25th, 2005 at 9:59 pmDemi, I can play that game too.
Bush: Iraq, Katrina, Miers, Smoggy Skies and Levelled Forests, Shock and Awe, Mission Accomplished, Downing Street, Dead or Alive, Bring Em On, Heckuva job, putting food on your family, holding Uncle Dicks hand in front of 9/11 commission, AWOL, Harken Energy, Cheerleader turned manly war president, earpiece in debates, TOTALLY INCOMPETENT NITWIT!!!!
October 25th, 2005 at 9:59 pmJay?, found your IP can I send you somthing?
October 25th, 2005 at 9:59 pmAaron Brown reporting a bomb scare in San Diego…hmmmm…
October 25th, 2005 at 10:00 pm“You see, not only did the attacks help accelerate a recession, the attacks reminded us that we are at war.” —George W. Bush, on the Sept. 11 attacks, Washington, D.C., June 8, 2005
October 25th, 2005 at 10:00 pm“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.” —George W. Bush, Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005
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October 25th, 2005 at 10:01 pmMaybe Crowley could be my friend?
October 25th, 2005 at 10:02 pmTuesday, October 11, 2005
Gitmo hunger strike worries Red Cross
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Date: 2005-10-10, 7:14AM MDT
Gitmo hunger strike worries Red Cross
WASHINGTON, Oct. 9 (UPI) — An ongoing hunger strike by detainees at Guantanamo Bay is raising concerns and questions.
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October 25th, 2005 at 10:03 pmAnyone who is interested in the system working should be relieved and anticipatory, but not necessarily elated. DeLay: You are NOT the federal government, as you once claimed. Regardless of what GWB says, he and Congress are NOT doing the work of the people. Steroids? Schiavo? War for oil? Taxpayers deserve better.
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“I think it’s important to bring somebody from outside the system, the judicial system, somebody that hasn’t been on the bench and, therefore, there’s not a lot of opinions for people to look at.” —George W. Bush, on the nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court, Washington, D.C., October 4, 2005
“We look forward to hearing your vision, so we can more better do our job. That’s what I’m telling you.” —George W. Bush, Gulfport, Miss., Sept. 20, 2005
“If it were to rain a lot, there is concern from the Army Corps of Engineers that the levees might break. And so, therefore, we’re cautious about encouraging people to return at this moment of history.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2005
“Listen, I want to thank leaders of the — in the faith — faith-based and community-based community for being here.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 6, 2005
“So please give cash money to organizations that are directly involved in helping save lives — save the life who had been affected by Hurricane Katrina.” —George W. Bush, Washington D.C., Sept. 6, 2005
“I can’t wait to join you in the joy of welcoming neighbors back into neighborhoods, and small businesses up and running, and cutting those ribbons that somebody is creating new jobs.” —George W. Bush, Poplarville, Miss., Sept. 5, 2005
“And Brownie, you’re doing a heck of a job.” —George W. Bush, to FEMA director Michael Brown who resigned 10 days later amid criticism over his job performance, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2, 2005 (Read more stupid quotes about Hurricane Katrina)
“We’ve got a lot of rebuilding to do. First, we’re going to save lives and stabilize the situation. And then we’re going to help these communities rebuild. The good news is — and it’s hard for some to see it now — that out of this chaos is going to come a fantastic Gulf Coast, like it was before. Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott’s house — he’s lost his entire house — there’s going to be a fantastic house. And I’m looking forward to sitting on the porch.” (Laughter) –George W. Bush, touring hurricane damage, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2, 2005
“My thoughts are, we’re going to get somebody who knows what they’re talking about when it comes to rebuilding cities.” —George W. Bush, on rebuilding New Orleans, Biloxi, Miss., Sept. 2, 2005
“Americans should be prudent in their use of energy during the course of the next few weeks. Don’t buy gas if you don’t need it.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 1, 2005
“It’s totally wiped out. … It’s devastating, it’s got to be doubly devastating on the ground.” —George W. Bush, turning to his aides while surveying Hurricane Katrina flood damage from Air Force One , Aug. 31, 2005
“The best place for the facts to be done is by somebody who’s spending time investigating it.” —George W. Bush, on the probe into how CIA agent Valerie Plame’s identity was leaked, Washington D.C., July 18, 2005
“I’m looking forward to a good night’s sleep on the soil of a friend.” —George W. Bush, on visiting Denmark, Washington D.C., June 29, 2005
“I was going to say he’s a piece of work, but that might not translate too well. Is that all right, if I call you a ‘piece of work’?” —George W. Bush to Jean-Claude Juncker, prime minister of Luxembourg, Washington, D.C., June 20, 2005
“The relations with, uhh — Europe are important relations, and they’ve, uhh — because, we do share values. And, they’re universal values, they’re not American values or, you know — European values, they’re universal values. And those values — uhh — being universal, ought to be applied everywhere.” —George W. Bush, at a press conference with European Union dignitaries, Washington, D.C., June 20, 2005
“You see, not only did the attacks help accelerate a recession, the attacks reminded us that we are at war.” —George W. Bush, on the Sept. 11 attacks, Washington, D.C., June 8, 2005
“And the second way to defeat the terrorists is to spread freedom. You see, the best way to defeat a society that is — doesn’t have hope, a society where people become so angry they’re willing to become suiciders, is to spread freedom, is to spread democracy.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 8, 2005
“It seemed like to me they based some of their decisions on the word of — and the allegations — by people who were held in detention, people who hate America, people that had been trained in some instances to disassemble — that means not tell the truth.” —George W. Bush, on an Amnesty International report on prisoner abuse at Guantanamo Bay, Washington, D.C., May 31, 2005 (Listen to audio)
“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.” —George W. Bush, Greece, N.Y., May 24, 2005 (Listen to audio)
“We discussed the way forward in Iraq, discussed the importance of a democracy in the greater Middle East in order to leave behind a peaceful tomorrow.” —George W. Bush, Tbilisi, Georgia, May 10, 2005
“I think younger workers — first of all, younger workers have been promised benefits the government — promises that have been promised, benefits that we can’t keep. That’s just the way it is.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 4, 2005
“It means your own money would grow better than that which the government can make it grow. And that’s important.” —George W. Bush, on what private accounts could do for Social Security funds, Falls Church, Va., April 29, 2005
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“It’s in our country’s interests to find those who would do harm to us and get them out of harm’s way.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
“We expect the states to show us whether or not we’re achieving simple objectives — like literacy, literacy in math, the ability to read and write.” —George W. Bush, on federal education requirements, Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
“He understands the need for a timely write of the constitution.” —George W. Bush, on Prime Minister Iyad Allawi of Iraq, Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
“Well, we’ve made the decision to defeat the terrorists abroad so we don’t have to face them here at home. And when you engage the terrorists abroad, it causes activity and action.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
“But Iraq has — have got people there that are willing to kill, and they’re hard-nosed killers. And we will work with the Iraqis to secure their future.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005
“We have enough coal to last for 250 years, yet coal also prevents an environmental challenge.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 20, 2005
“Part of the facts is understanding we have a problem, and part of the facts is what you’re going to do about it.” —George W. Bush, Kirtland, Ohio, April 15, 2005
“I’m going to spend a lot of time on Social Security. I enjoy it. I enjoy taking on the issue. I guess, it’s the Mother in me.” —George W. Bush, Washington D.C., April 14, 2005
“We look forward to analyzing and working with legislation that will make — it would hope — put a free press’s mind at ease that you’re not being denied information you shouldn’t see.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 14, 2005
“I want to thank you for the importance that you’ve shown for education and literacy.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 13, 2005
“I understand there’s a suspicion that we—we’re too security-conscience.” —George W. Bush, Washington D.C., April 14, 2005
“If they pre-decease or die early, there’s an asset base to be able to pass on to a loved one.” —George W. Bush, on Social Security money held in private accounts, Cedar Rapids, Iowa, March 30, 2005
“In this job you’ve got a lot on your plate on a regular basis; you don’t have much time to sit around and wander, lonely, in the Oval Office, kind of asking different portraits, ‘How do you think my standing will be?’” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., March 16, 2005
“In terms of timetables, as quickly as possible — whatever that means.” —George W. Bush, on his time frame for shoring up Social Security, Washington D.C., March 16, 2005
“I repeat, personal accounts do not permanently fix the solution.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., March 16, 2005
“This notion that the United States is getting ready to attack Iran is simply ridiculous. And having said that, all options are on the table.” —George W. Bush, Brussels, Belgium, Feb. 22, 2005
“If you’re a younger person, you ought to be asking members of Congress and the United States Senate and the president what you intend to do about it. If you see a train wreck coming, you ought to be saying, what are you going to do about it, Mr. Congressman, or Madam Congressman?” —George W. Bush, Detroit, Mich., Feb. 8, 2005
“Because the — all which is on the table begins to address the big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculate, for example, is on the table; whether or not benefits rise based upon wage increases or price increases. There’s a series of parts of the formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those different cost drivers, affecting those — changing those with personal accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more likely to be — or closer delivered to what has been promised. Does that make any sense to you? It’s kind of muddled. Look, there’s a series of things that cause the — like, for example, benefits are calculated based upon the increase of wages, as opposed to the increase of prices. Some have suggested that we calculate — the benefits will rise based upon inflation, as opposed to wage increases. There is a reform that would help solve the red if that were put into effect. In other words, how fast benefits grow, how fast the promised benefits grow, if those — if that growth is affected, it will help on the red.” —George W. Bush, explaining his plan to save Social Security, Tampa, Fla., Feb. 4, 2005
“You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn’t it? I mean, that is fantastic that you’re doing that.” —George W. Bush, to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005
“After all, Europe is America’s closest ally.” —George W. Bush, Mainz, Germany, Feb. 23, 2005
“I’m also mindful that man should never try to put words in God’s mouth. I mean, we should never ascribe natural disasters or anything else to God. We are in no way, shape, or form should a human being, play God.” —George W. Bush, ABC’s 20/20, Washington D.C., Jan. 14, 2005
“I want to appreciate those of you who wear our nation’s uniform for your sacrifice.” —George W. Bush, Jacksonville, Fla., Jan. 14, 2005
“I speak plainly sometimes, but you’ve got to be mindful of the consequences of the words. So put that down. I don’t know if you’d call that a confession, a regret, something.” —George W. Bush, speaking to reporters, Washington, D.C., Jan. 14, 2005
“Who could have possibly envisioned an erection — an election in Iraq at this point in history?” —George W. Bush, at the white House, Washington, D.C., Jan. 10, 2005
“We need to apply 21st-century information technology to the health care field. We need to have our medical records put on the I.T.” —George W. Bush, Collinsville, Ill., Jan. 5, 2005
“I believe we are called to do the hard work to make our communities and quality of life a better place.” —George W. Bush, Collinsville, Ill., Jan. 5, 2005
“It’s a time of sorrow and sadness when we lose a loss of life.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 21, 2004
“They can get in line like those who have been here legally and have been working to become a citizenship in a legal manner.” —George W. Bush, on immigrant workers, Washington, D.C., Dec. 20, 2004
“And so during these holiday seasons, we thank our blessings.” —George W. Bush, Fort Belvoir, Va., Dec. 10, 2004
“Justice ought to be fair.” —George W. Bush, speaking at the White House Economic Conference, Washington, D.C., Dec. 15, 2004
“The president and I also reaffirmed our determination to fight terror, to bring drug trafficking to bear, to bring justice to those who pollute our youth.” —George W. Bush, speaking with Chilean President Ricardo Lagos, Santiago, Chile, Nov. 21, 2004
“We thought we were protected forever from trade policy or terrorist attacks because oceans protected us.” —George W. Bush, speaking to business leaders at APEC Summit, Santiago, Chile, Nov. 20, 2004
“I always jest to people, the Oval Office is the kind of place where people stand outside, they’re getting ready to come in and tell me what for, and they walk in and get overwhelmed in the atmosphere, and they say, man, you’re looking pretty.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Nov. 4, 2004
“I have a record in office, as well. And all Americans have seen that record. September the 4th, 2001, I stood in the ruins of the Twin Towers. It’s a day I will never forget.” —George W. Bush, Marlton, New Jersey, Oct. 18, 2004
“After standing on the stage, after the debates, I made it very plain, we will not have an all-volunteer army. And yet, this week — we will have an all-volunteer army!” —George W. Bush, Daytona Beach, Fla., Oct. 16, 2004 (Watch video or listen to audio)
“I hear there’s rumors on the Internets that we’re going to have a draft.” —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004 (Watch video or listen to audio)
“The truth of that matter is, if you listen carefully, Saddam would still be in power if he were the president of the United States, and the world would be a lot better off.” —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004
“When a drug comes in from Canada, I wanna make sure it cures ya, not kill ya… I’ve got an obligation to make sure our government does everything we can to protect you. And one — my worry is that it looks like it’s from Canada, and it might be from a third world.” —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004
“We all thought there was weapons there, Robin. My opponent thought there was weapons there.” —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004
“Let me see where to start here. First, the National Journal named Senator Kennedy the most liberal senator of all.” —George W. Bush, referring to Sen. Kerry, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004
“I own a timber company? That’s news to me. Need some wood?” —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004
“Another example would be the Dred Scott case, which is where judges, years ago, said that the Constitution allowed slavery because of personal property rights. That’s a personal opinion. That’s not what the constitution says. The constitution of the United States says we’re all — you know, it doesn’t say that. It doesn’t speak to the equality of America.” —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004
“The enemy understands a free Iraq will be a major defeat in their ideology of hatred. That’s why they’re fighting so vociferously.” —George W. Bush, first presidential debate, Coral Gables, Fla., Sept. 30, 2004
“You know, it’s hard work to try to love her as best as I can, knowing full well that the decision I made caused her loved one to be in harm’s way.” —George W. Bush, first presidential debate, Coral Gables, Fla., Sept. 30, 2004
“I think it’s very important for the American President to mean what he says. That’s why I understand that the enemy could misread what I say. That’s why I try to be as clearly I can.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 23, 2004
“I saw a poll that said the right track/wrong track in Iraq was better than here in America. It’s pretty darn strong. I mean, the people see a better future.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 23, 2004
“I’m not the expert on how the Iraqi people think, because I live in America, where it’s nice and safe and secure.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 23, 2004
“It’s the Afghan national army that went into Najaf and did the work there.” —George W. Bush, referring to Iraqi troops during a joint press conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi, Washington, D.C., Sept. 23, 2004
“The CIA laid out several scenarios and said life could be lousy, life could be OK, life could be better, and they were just guessing as to what the conditions might be like.” —George W. Bush, New York City, Sept. 21, 2004
“Free societies are hopeful societies. And free societies will be allies against these hateful few who have no conscience, who kill at the whim of a hat.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 17, 2004
“Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren’t able to practice their love with women all across this country.” —George W. Bush, Poplar Bluff, Mo., Sept. 6, 2004 (Watch video clip or listen to audio)
“We will make sure our troops have all that is necessary to complete their missions. That’s why I went to the Congress last September and proposed fundamental — supplemental funding, which is money for armor and body parts and ammunition and fuel.” —George W. Bush, Erie, Pa., Sept. 4, 2004
“Had we to do it over again, we would look at the consequences of catastrophic success, being so successful so fast that an enemy that should have surrendered or been done in escaped and lived to fight another day.” —George W. Bush, telling Time magazine that he underestimated the Iraqi resistance
“They’ve seen me make decisions, they’ve seen me under trying times, they’ve seen me weep, they’ve seen me laugh, they’ve seen me hug. And they know who I am, and I believe they’re comfortable with the fact that they know I’m not going to shift principles or shift positions based upon polls and focus groups.” —George W. Bush, interview with USA Today, Aug. 27, 2004
“I hope you leave here and walk out and say, ‘What did he say?’” —George W. Bush, Beaverton, Oregon, Aug. 13, 2004
“So community colleges are accessible, they’re available, they’re affordable, and their curriculums don’t get stuck. In other words, if there’s a need for a certain kind of worker, I presume your curriculums evolved over time.” —George W. Bush, Niceville, Fla., Aug. 10, 2004
“Let me put it to you bluntly. In a changing world, we want more people to have control over your own life.” —George W. Bush, Annandale, Va, Aug. 9, 2004
“As you know, we don’t have relationships with Iran. I mean, that’s — ever since the late ’70s, we have no contacts with them, and we’ve totally sanctioned them. In other words, there’s no sanctions — you can’t — we’re out of sanctions.” —George W. Bush, Annandale, Va, Aug. 9, 2004
“Tribal sovereignty means that; it’s sovereign. I mean, you’re a — you’ve been given sovereignty, and you’re viewed as a sovereign entity. And therefore the relationship between the federal government and tribes is one between sovereign entities.” —George W. Bush, speaking to minority journalists, Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004 (Watch video clip or listen to audio)
“We actually misnamed the war on terror. It ought to be the Struggle Against Ideological Extremists Who Do Not Believe in Free Societies Who Happen to Use Terror as a Weapon to Try to Shake the Conscience of the Free World.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004
“I cut the taxes on everybody. I didn’t cut them. The Congress cut them. I asked them to cut them.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004
“I wish I wasn’t the war president. Who in the heck wants to be a war president? I don’t.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 6, 2004
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004 (Watch video clip or listen to audio)
“We stand for things.” —George W. Bush, Davenport, Iowa, Aug. 5, 2004
‘I don’t know why you’re talking about Sweden. They’re the neutral one. They don’t have an army.” –George W. Bush, during an Oval Office meeting with Rep. Tom Lantos, as reported by the New York Times
“Give me a chance to be your president and America will be safer and stronger and better.” —Still-President George W. Bush, Marquette, Michigan, July 13, 2004
“I mean, if you’ve ever been a governor of a state, you understand the vast potential of broadband technology, you understand how hard it is to make sure that physics, for example, is taught in every classroom in the state. It’s difficult to do. It’s, like, cost-prohibitive.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 24, 2004
“And I am an optimistic person. I guess if you want to try to find something to be pessimistic about, you can find it, no matter how hard you look, you know?” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., June 15, 2004
“I want to thank my friend, Senator Bill Frist, for joining us today. You’re doing a heck of a job. You cut your teeth here, right? That’s where you started practicing? That’s good. He married a Texas girl, I want you to know. Karyn is with us. A West Texas girl, just like me.” —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., May 27, 2004
“I’m honored to shake the hand of a brave Iraqi citizen who had his hand cut off by Saddam Hussein.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 25, 2004
“Like you, I have been disgraced about what I’ve seen on TV that took place in prison.” —George W. Bush, Parkersburg, West Virginia, May 13, 2004
“Iraqis are sick of foreign people coming in their country and trying to destabilize their country.” —George W. Bush, interview with Al Arabiya Television, May 5, 2004
“My job is to, like, think beyond the immediate.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 21, 2004
“They could still be hidden, like the 50 tons of mustard gas on a turkey farm.” —George W. Bush, on Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, Washington, D.C. , April 13, 2004
“This has been tough weeks in that country.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 13, 2004
“Coalition forces have encountered serious violence in some areas of Iraq. Our military commanders report that this violence is being insticated by three groups.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 13, 2004
“Obviously, I pray every day there’s less casualty.” —George W. Bush, Fort Hood, Texas, April 11, 2004
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“We’re still being challenged in Iraq and the reason why is a free Iraq will be a major defeat in the cause of freedom.” —George W. Bush, Charlotte, N.C., April 5, 2004
“Earlier today, the Libyan government released Fathi Jahmi. She’s a local government official who was imprisoned in 2002 for advocating free speech and democracy.” —George W. Bush, citing Jahmi, who is a man, in a speech paying tribute to women reformers during International Women’s Week, Washington, D.C., March 12, 2004
“The march to war hurt the economy. Laura reminded me a while ago that remember what was on the TV screens — she calls me, ‘George W.’ — ‘George W.’ I call her, ‘First Lady.’ No, anyway — she said, we said, march to war on our TV screen.” —George W. Bush, Bay Shore, New York, Mar. 11, 2004
“God loves you, and I love you. And you can count on both of us as a powerful message that people who wonder about their future can hear.” —George W. Bush, Los Angeles, Calif., March 3, 2004
“Recession means that people’s incomes, at the employer level, are going down, basically, relative to costs, people are getting laid off.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Feb. 19, 2004
“Joe, I don’t do nuance.” —George W. Bush to Sen. Joseph Biden, as quoted in Time, Feb. 15, 2004
“The march to war affected the people’s confidence. It’s hard to make investment. See, if you’re a small business owner or a large business owner and you’re thinking about investing, you’ve got to be optimistic when you invest. Except when you’re marching to war, it’s not a very optimistic thought, is it? In other words, it’s the opposite of optimistic when you’re thinking you’re going to war.” —George W. Bush, Springfield, Mo., Feb. 9, 2004
“But the true strength of America is found in the hearts and souls of people like Travis, people who are willing to love their neighbor, just like they would like to love themselves.” —George W. Bush, Springfield, Mo., Feb. 9, 2004
“In my judgment, when the United States says there will be serious consequences, and if there isn’t serious consequences, it creates adverse consequences.” —George W. Bush, Meet the Press, Feb. 8, 2004
“There is no such thing necessarily in a dictatorial regime of iron-clad absolutely solid evidence. The evidence I had was the best possible evidence that he had a weapon.” —George W. Bush, Meet the Press, Feb. 8, 2004
“The recession started upon my arrival. It could have been — some say February, some say March, some speculate maybe earlier it started — but nevertheless, it happened as we showed up here. The attacks on our country affected our economy. Corporate scandals affected the confidence of people and therefore affected the economy. My decision on Iraq, this kind of march to war, affected the economy.” —George W. Bush, Meet the Press, Feb. 8, 2004
“We do know that Saddam Hussein had the intent and the capabilities to cause great harm. We know he was a great danger….What we don’t know yet is what we thought and what the Iraqi Survey Group has found, and we want to look at that.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C. Feb. 2, 2004
“My views are one that speaks to freedom.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2004
“See, one of the interesting things in the Oval Office — I love to bring people into the Oval Office — right around the corner from here — and say, this is where I office, but I want you to know the office is always bigger than the person.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2004
“More Muslims have died at the hands of killers than — I say more Muslims — a lot of Muslims have died — I don’t know the exact count — at Istanbul. Look at these different places around the world where there’s been tremendous death and destruction because killers kill.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 29, 2004
“Then you wake up at the high school level and find out that the illiteracy level of our children are appalling.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004 (Listen to audio clip)
“Just remember it’s the birds that’s supposed to suffer, not the hunter.” —George W. Bush, advising quail hunter and New Mexico Sen. Pete Domenici, Roswell, N.M., Jan. 22, 2004
“For diplomacy to be effective, words must be credible, and no one can now doubt the word of America.” —George W. Bush, State of the Union Address, Jan. 20, 2004
“I want to thank the astronauts who are with us, the courageous spacial entrepreneurs who set such a wonderful example for the young of our country.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C. Jan. 14, 2004
“I was a prisoner too, but for bad reasons.” —George W. Bush, to Argentine President Nestor Kirchner, on being told that all but one of the Argentine delegates to a summit meeting were imprisoned during the military dictatorship, Monterrey, Mexico, Jan. 13, 2004
“One of the most meaningful things that’s happened to me since I’ve been the governor — the president — governor — president. Oops. Ex-governor. I went to Bethesda Naval Hospital to give a fellow a Purple Heart, and at the same moment I watched him—get a Purple Heart for action in Iraq — and at that same — right after I gave him the Purple Heart, he was sworn in as a citizen of the United States — a Mexican citizen, now a United States citizen.” —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 9, 2004
“And if you’re interested in the quality of education and you’re paying attention to what you hear at Laclede, why don’t you volunteer? Why don’t you mentor a child how to read?” —George W. Bush, St. Louis, Mo., Jan. 5, 2004
“So thank you for reminding me about the importance of being a good mom and a great volunteer as well.” —George W. Bush, St. Louis, Mos., Jan. 5, 2004
October 25th, 2005 at 10:04 pmJay was undoubtedly a math club dork in high school that everyone picked on, who never had a date, who only played sports on his Nintendo, and who has a face full of scars from the acne that once covered his mug. He finally found a group that he fits in with – the Dumocrats.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:07 pmLennon,
Such stupid and retarded stereotypes and projections. You know, if you haven’t looked lately, the chickenhawk republicans tend to be the ‘nerds’. Clearly you are compensating for your anxious masculinity that prohibits you from feeling like a ‘real man’. It must be awful being stupider, fatter, uglier and worse at political banter. Clearly you’ve found the loser party of hate, stupidity, ignorance and greed that suits your limited capacity as a person…
October 25th, 2005 at 10:09 pmMr. X is Joe Wilson… he revealed the link between his wife and her current unclas position at the CIA and her covert time at the CIA. Which is why he probably won’t be prosecuted unless others in the scandal are to be prosecuted, and it’s why the FBI is now interviewing his neigbors according to the Financial Times.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:11 pmIt is Stephen Hadley
October 25th, 2005 at 10:12 pmNo Echo,
Where do you get pearl of wisdom this from? This ‘myth’ has been debunked.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:13 pmWow, the NeoCOns have gone off the deeoend tonight. I haven’t read crazy sh!t like this since, well never.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:15 pmStrike a nerve, Ryan? “Real men” like John Kerry, Algore, Barney Frank, Al Franken, Alan Colmes, and Ryan join the Dumocrats.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:15 pmF@ggot-a$$ Republicans aren’t too good at argumentation. That’s why they resort to stealing campaign signs, cat killing, ad hominem, and red herrings. They remind me of the schoolyard bullies – too fu*kin’ retarded to make an intelligent retort, so they resort to changing the subject or lashing out.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:17 pm(Comment by Lennon — October 25, 2005 @ 10:15 pm) Your sister’s a fu*kin’ w-hore. I just put some more wrinkles in that beeyach’s pu$$y.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:19 pmReduhblicans tend to be some of the least educated people in America. That’s why they worship Curious W. George and non-Mensa candidates such as she-man Coulter, Dildo O’Reily, Lardbaugh, and little SeanHannity.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:22 pmya’ll sure are giddy tonite, i can understand, this could be the liberals first victory since affimitive action, good luck with the indictments. Geez just pray it wasnt the CIA that started the leak ;)
October 25th, 2005 at 10:23 pmPeople I have the person, responsible for the leak. and It is Supreme court nominee, Harriet Miers. Thats why Bush is pushing hard to get her on the top court.That way they can’t touch her.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:24 pm(Comment by bob shaw — October 25, 2005 @ 10:23 pm) I just fu*ked your $ister hard. That was quite a victory. Uh, you got something wrong. If all the president’s men receive indictments, it’s not a “victory” for justice. Amazing how Restublicans talk about personal responsibility until theirs is addressed.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:25 pm(Comment by Don Key — October 25, 2005 @ 10:25 pm) Correction: if they’re indicted it IS a victory for justice, not for anyone in particular. In the end, truth, justice, and the American Way will prevail. That’s the way it should be. TomDelay once shouted, “I AM the federal government.” It ain’t so.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:26 pmDon, you used that ’sister’ line a few minutes ago. Try something new. I’m guessing that “sister” is really just a code word for your own “hand”.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:28 pmJOE SCARBOROUGH IS A DICK,VAGINASICLE,PECKER,GUMSHOE,SHAFT,TOOL,PRICK,PUTZ,
October 25th, 2005 at 10:31 pmCOCK…CREEEEEEEEEPOOOOOOOH
Joe in not a gumshoe!!!!
October 25th, 2005 at 10:33 pmActually Lennon, I’m not one to toot my own horn and it was over 15 years ago but…I was the captain of the football team in HS, played basketball too, received an academic scholarship and played football in college. My girlfriend at the time on a scale of 1 to 10 was about a 14. Oh and math was my weakest subject. Thanks for caring though.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:36 pmJay is a gumshoe
October 25th, 2005 at 10:37 pmThe trolls are out
they must be worried.
Carter-like approval ratings for Bush. Forget the Reagan comparisons.
Pissing off “the Base” by nominating Meiers
Indictments for his major aides . . .
Priceless
hehe
October 25th, 2005 at 10:37 pmThis is all just such a bunch of crap. Since when did TPers give a f*ck about the CIA’s ability to do its job (set aside the fact that Plame was not covert)? Never, that’s when. This is a blatantly political hatchet job and nothing else. You all need to stop pretending that you are taking the moral high ground and admit that you’ll do ANYTHING you can to hurt Bush. Hope you’ll save some tears for the 2006 elections if Rove and Libby don’t take the hit on this.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:37 pmI know who you are Jay. You were that dick that played football and basketball in HS. You stole my scholarship. You suck dick.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:39 pmCC, if it’s Rove or Libby, I expect not to hear from you until after Christmas :)….same here.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:40 pm“This is all just such a bunch of crap. Since when did TPers give a f*ck about the CIA’s ability to do its job (set aside the fact that Plame was not covert)? Never, that’s when.”
You’re a lying BAG OF CRAP. We are all americans you fvcking stupid old bastard. The CIA is the intelligence organization of america, and as such they have always been supported for their good deeds. When we have disagreed is when the CIA stepped away from being an intelligence agency, and started overthrowing democracies, and TRAINING ALQUEDA.
” This is a blatantly political hatchet job and nothing else. ”
Coming from a delusional partisan hatchet fvck like you, that’s a real HOOT! Join the real world you retarded bastard!
“You all need to stop pretending that you are taking the moral high ground and admit that you’ll do ANYTHING you can to hurt Bush. Hope you’ll save some tears for the 2006 elections if Rove and Libby don’t take the hit on this.”
Oh please, you’re the idiot that needs to stop pretending you’re on the moral high ground – because your CIA comment clearly believes you feel ’superior’ in your patriotism. You are such a stupid hack! Grow up you little moronic child!
October 25th, 2005 at 10:42 pmYou got it Jay! ;-)
October 25th, 2005 at 10:42 pmCC,
CNN is saying Cheney is gonna resign tomorrow – what do you think about that? If it were a ‘hatchet job’, do you believe this might happen? You’re a delusional creep who’s defending a TRAITOR you asshole!
October 25th, 2005 at 10:43 pmA Putz,
Guess you’ll have to apply those good ol’ Republican pull yourself up from the bootstraps, independent values and try a little harder next time.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:43 pmDid I touch a nerve Ryan?
October 25th, 2005 at 10:43 pmAnyone who believes that Jay “was the captain of the football team in HS, played basketball too, received an academic scholarship and played football in college” or that his “girlfriend at the time on a scale of 1 to 10 was about a 14″ please raise your hand.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:44 pmRyan, if CNN is saying it I’d say it has about a 20% chance of being right…
October 25th, 2005 at 10:45 pmRyan, that’s not true…is it? I just checked CNN and watched some earlier. No mention of that. WTF?
October 25th, 2005 at 10:45 pmCC,
You’re defending a traitor, that hits the nerve of any authentic american. Something you’re clearly incapable of understanding.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:45 pmHey Lennon, I agree with you on most things but lay off Jay — the dude’s alright.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:46 pmJay, your the father of Laurie’s child Blue-Bell. Laurie wants money for Blue-Bell’s braces. If you don’t caugh up she’ll tell everyone you suck dick.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:46 pmJay,
I didn’t see it myself, it was posted earlier. I’d love confirmation if anyone else sees or hears this!
October 25th, 2005 at 10:46 pmLennon, you’re right, now that I think about it….she was about a 12. My wife is a 14 though.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:47 pmXheney!!
October 25th, 2005 at 10:47 pmThis is so cool. The conservative wingnuts are just going nuts. I’ve never seen them so inarticulate. All they can do is call names and use pathethic sexual references. What fun.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:48 pmHey CC
October 25th, 2005 at 10:48 pmDude looks like a lady.
Gannon would be an interesting Mr.X. According to wikipedia he had two overnight stays in the white house. Imagine what would happen if he was pu on the stand. He was interviewed by Fitzgerald.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:48 pmRyan, stop posting stuff you haven’t seen yourself — there’s enough misinformation on the blogs already.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:49 pmCC,
You should know, you and the trolls post most of the misinformation. The difference is you pretend like you KNOW it’s true 100%, even when it’s been debunked! You’re a FOOL!
By the way 90% of americans disagree with you. Only 10% of americans don’t think the administration either did something illegal or unethical.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:50 pmA Putz,
Shhh, I’m trying to get lucky
October 25th, 2005 at 10:50 pmYeah, I think one of the playful wingnuts posted that.
CC, coming to my defense? Maybe there’s hope for this Republic yet?
October 25th, 2005 at 10:50 pmHere’s a third vote for Fleitz.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:51 pmThe Republicans will try to used to use Bill Clinton as cover to excuse their actions.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:51 pmGeorge W Bush = 21st century Jimmy Carter
actually, Bush’s deficits are bigger, his abilities as CIC of the military are poorer, the “malaise” is worse . . .
Actually, that is not fair to Carter. At least Carter had a prominent post-presidency career. By contrast, Shrub will just retire to his safety scissors and crayons. Seriously, noone is gonna put that guy in charge of anything meaningful – even the wingnut apologist/enablers.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:51 pmRyan, you are an irrational, hysterical cheerleader.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:52 pmMr. X is Michael Ledeen, not Homer Simpson.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:52 pmPlease, please, please, please let it be Dubya so we can watch him pardon himself on TV. Should go something like this;
Bush: Pardon Me.
Bush: What did I do, fart?
Bush: no, for that leaky CIA faucet or whatever.
Bush: oh yeah, hee hee, sorry for the leak. And pardon me.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:53 pmActually Demidumino posted it above – is he/she one of your CC? It would appear so.
Is anyone surprised that a troll pasted misinformation? It’s so consistent, it’s insane.
You guys are such factories of lies…
October 25th, 2005 at 10:53 pmjb, plastic scissors though, the ones that come with the Play-Doh. He couldn’t be trusted with anything too sharp.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:53 pmJay, you and I are not so different — though my wife is probably only an 11.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:53 pm#254
October 25th, 2005 at 10:53 pmTry not to take too many shortcuts in your reasoning. There are plenty of TP’ers who just don’t fit into your narrow view of what a “liberal” or a “lefty” might be. Some of us love this country, play sports, own guns, hunt and fish, serve in the military, want a strong national defense, go to church, etc… Not all of us are politically motivated and truly do care about this country. It’s complete bullsh*t that the Bush administration has been playing us for fools and have successfully driven a wedge between people who used to be friends, neighbors and co-workers. You seem articulate- try putting some thought behind your words and look beyond simplistic political staw men arguments.
“Ryan, you are an irrational, hysterical cheerleader.
Comment by Concerned Conservative”
You bring home the old adage that an unlightened man can only see himself…
October 25th, 2005 at 10:54 pmA Putz
October 25th, 2005 at 10:54 pmWhatsoever Acts otherwise than by natural or artificial means, is not humane, but merely fictitious and deceitfull. Jay…I hope you take this personally
So why are you repeating troll posts Ryan? Because it happened to fit your version of reality. Typical.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:55 pmLennon,
Sounds like you’re still living in high school, it would explain your juvenile perspective of the world…
October 25th, 2005 at 10:56 pmHey Louis
October 25th, 2005 at 10:57 pmGo to HELL.
Jay? Jay are you there? Jay?
Well said Duchamp, very well said.
Hey Lou, I have no idea what you’re talking about. Try English and maybe I’ll play along.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:58 pm“So why are you repeating troll posts Ryan? Because it happened to fit your version of reality. Typical.
Comment by Concerned Conservative”
Hey, everyone makes a mistake. Unlike you, I admit mine when discovered – but then I’m an adult. You should try it sometime.
I didn’t realize he/she was a troll, and I was too busy to go confirm this, which is what I usually do. It’s what people who are partisan fvcks like you do when they discover they were incorrect on something. You by contrast seem bent on repeating debunked lies – but then again you appear to be a slow learner like most republicans.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:59 pm#287 — Point taken. I should not have lumped all TPers together into one group. Of course there are different kinds of folks here. It just seems like many have a very partisan agenda and so occasionally I boil over and lash out.
Anger mode — off.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:00 pmHey Putz
October 25th, 2005 at 11:00 pmWhat men ought to believe touching Figures, Charmes, and such stuff, I shall deliver my opinion. Without doubt there is nothing in these dayes of this kind, but what is either deceitfull, dubious, or irrational, which Philosophers formerly invented to hide their secret operations of Nature and Art from the eyes of an unworthy generation.
“You seem articulate- try putting some thought behind your words and look beyond simplistic political staw men arguments.
Comment by M. Duchamp ”
Wouldn’t that be nice. Unfortunately too many seem incapable of this act.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:00 pmGoodnight fellas. Too many freaks on board tonight. Let’s hope that tomorrow, justice is served and we can all get a small piece of our democracy back.
Peace!
October 25th, 2005 at 11:00 pmMy guess it is John Bolton.
All minor players seem to have come out of his office.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:00 pm“Point taken. I should not have lumped all TPers together into one group. Of course there are different kinds of folks here. It just seems like many have a very partisan agenda and so occasionally I boil over and lash out.
Anger mode — off.
Comment by Concerned Conservative”
If fools like you didn’t come here and spout your partisan agenda, and debunked lies, you might have a different experience. You accuse others of partisanship, but your inablity to admit your failures and lack of knowledge and facts clearly demostrates that YOU are the partisan hacks. Prove me wrong, I’ll listen. In general you guys that arrive are all ignorant hacks!
October 25th, 2005 at 11:02 pmJay,
I agree, the freaks and partisan hacks seem intent on spreading mahem. I believe it’s their frustration, fear and the uncertainty of the impending indictment. Can’t much blame them, their ship is sinking!
October 25th, 2005 at 11:03 pmWhat I don’t understand is why right-wingers never seem to tire of being WRONG all the goddamn time. Have they no sense of embarrassment or shame?
October 25th, 2005 at 11:05 pmEveryone is up in arms about the level of availablity with regards to Howard Dean and the Democratic Party. Where are they? What are their plans? What is the new agenda to win back the Congress and the White House? Well, I think that I’ve finally figured it out and it’s pure genius; do absolutely nothing; things are obviously taking care of themselves naturally (like most of us knew it would). The declining conditions (on a daily basis these days) of the current administration are the only fuel that any party would ever need.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:05 pmAnd what impact has all of these failures produced?
A majority would vote for a Democrat over President Bush if an election were held this year, according to a CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll released Tuesday.
In the latest poll, 55 percent of the respondents said that they would vote for the Democratic candidate if Bush were again running for the presidency this year.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:05 pmBy the way, Duchamp, I do not share your view that Bush has divided the country. I believe it is more the left distorting his record and attacking himm that has led too many to think this. If you step back and look at his record it is not radical at all, save perhaps the Iraq war (which I actually think is the best thing we could have done). I disagree with him on many domestic issues (spending overall, business subsidies specifically) but I can’t see him as the horrible person this site makes him out to be.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:05 pmB,
It’s better to stay out of the news for democrats and allow the republicans to fester in their own mess. It’s actually very good politics, as it undermines the lies and propaganda of a democratic witch hunt!
October 25th, 2005 at 11:06 pmCC,
You’re a fool. The nation has never been more divided. And how would liberals do this attacking? The press is a tool of republican masters, and there’s virtually no disent compared to Clinton. You’re a partisan idiot!
The presidency has been an utter failure in EVERY way measureable! Name me a single success of this administration?
October 25th, 2005 at 11:09 pmRyan: “Name me a single success of this administration?”
They got themselves reelected, didn’t they?
Bwahahahahaha!
October 25th, 2005 at 11:12 pmAMEN RYAN,
I really think that Katrina also allowed the media to find its balls with the REAL stories concerning this absolute HORROR show that has enslaved our freedoms and our quality of life. The Neoconic approach these days is that MSNBC, NBC Nightly News, CBS, ABC, CNN, and almost every form of media imaginable is “out to get their man”. That leaves FOX as the only source. It’s hilarious and I love it. Clinton was Impeached not because he got a BJ but because he lied to a Grand Jury but when the tables are turned, it’s “everybody does it” and “bipartisan politics”. Unreal the level these creeps will stoop to in front of everyone.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:12 pmIt has been fun jousting with you all — good night and good luck.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:13 pm“They got themselves reelected, didn’t they?
Bwahahahahaha!
Comment by Concerned Conservative”
That’s the only success you can quote? Figures, it’s the only thing they ‘executed’, and in order to achieve this they CHEATED. So if you feel this is a ‘victory’ or a ’success’, it would explain your moral relativism and general stupidity on all issues.
So in otherwords, the republicans failed on all policy issues, but are successful because they got elected. Wow, you sure have a low standard for governmental success. Clearly you’re a lifelong republican.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:14 pm#305
His record on the environment has been dismal.
His record on health care has been dismal.
His record on illiegal immigration has been dismal.
His record on homeland security has been dismal (TSA, etc.).
His record on telecommunications is bought and paid for by the right-wing infotainment and telecom monopolies.
The US is something like 15th worldwide in telecom infrastructure now.
His record on NASA is a disgrace.
His record on substituting religion for science is positively dark ages.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:15 pm“It has been fun jousting with you all — good night and good luck.
Comment by Concerned Conservative ”
Just as I figure. How could you defend the indefensible? If the best you can do is ‘they got elected’, you’re even more of a failure at this partisan hackery than I thought. I at least figured you’d have one fake success you would post. Wow you are ill prepared for defending your failures…
October 25th, 2005 at 11:15 pm# 310
That sucks, just as I was posting my reply, he left!
October 25th, 2005 at 11:21 pmAndrew,
And that’s just the start of the failures.
Economy
Unemployment
Poverty
Healthcare
Homeland Security
etc.
Everything bush has touched has turned to a bag of shit. And the shitheads who defend him are as inept as his policies – that’s you CC you foolish jackass!
October 25th, 2005 at 11:23 pmAndrew,
Don’t worry, like all of the republican diehards he’s a zealot partisan fool.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:24 pm#283
Some funny sh*t, B!
October 25th, 2005 at 11:26 pmI remember driving to work last October/November seeing all the farm fields with “Farmer’s For Bush” signs in their yards and fields thinking to myself “you absolutely have to be shitting me”. Well, I’d guess that you would be hard pressed to find many farmers that would still support the “Vacation Monkey” after what he has done to them. I’ll never understand how anyone can support or defend anything this monstrocity has done while in office. Even Reagan and Bush Sr. and Ford and Nixon (not much) had some good points but this guy is going to go down in history with the worlds WORST rulers.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:26 pm#305
You’re entitled to your opinion. That’s what this country is all about. Personally, I’m really tired of the extreme elements of both parties (or any organization for that matter) degrading debate and villifying descent.
As for division, I guess it all depends on where you live and who you hang out with. I can only speak of my experiences, and this blog is not the venue for *that* type of discussion. I will say that i have had a hard time objectively discussing politics with a number of people who used to be well reasoned, rational people.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:29 pmB,
Exactly. That’s why when morons like CC claim he believes bush is a uniter it’s just bizarre.
Bush isn’t just a bad president, he’s an inept failure, just like every crony he’s picked to serve with him. The only remotely competent people in the administration left quickly.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:31 pmI can’t believe noone else thought of this. Could it have been none other than Pappy (GHW) Bush? He’s got the clearance and the connections to find this info (unlike the Guckert’s, etc.). Besides, I’m sure Pappy and the Carlyle group have made bootloads of money off this war.
Could the whole dynasty come crumbling down?
October 25th, 2005 at 11:32 pmMDuchamp,
I have no problems with dissent, lies are intolerable to me!
If you want to have a rational conversation, post rational information and facts, and not smears or nonsense.
What would you like to have a rational conversation about? You promise not to post smears or debunked lies, and I’ll promise not to call you an idiot for posting them.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:33 pmTom,
It could all come crumbling down. The investigation has expanded to the iraq gate – that’s gotta have a lot of secrets the administration would love to keep under the table.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:34 pmI’ve been throwing it out all day, Ryan. But have you solidified your thoughts on Rove’s remarks about “saying too much” and “will be declassified soon” to Cooper? Noone seems to emphasize it much. I find the remarks shocking.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:35 pmMr. X wouldn’t happen to be Ms. M by any chance, would it?
October 25th, 2005 at 11:36 pmBrian,
Yeah it’s interesting. Clearly if he said he’d “said too much”, then he knew what he was doing was wrong.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:38 pmPeter,
I think MrX is Powell. As I understand it, he supplied the confidential identity to Cheney and Bush upon request.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:40 pm#322
It should be pretty obvious from my previous couple of posts that I’m not one to post smears, lies or generalizations.
I’ve been reading everyones posts for entertainment value. I have yet to see anything, other than CC’s post alluding to the “criminalization of politics” talking point, that made me want to jump into the fray.
As for being called an idiot, it would not be the first time.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:40 pmI personally think the comments drive the investigation. Someone knowing and admitting they are disclosing classified info. Anyhow, goodnight.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:42 pmMDuchamp,
Ok, I like you :)
Just don’t degrade into a CC level of ineptitude, and I’ll be as open and willing to discuss as you are! Anything in particular around the topic points in particular you feel like a real conversation on?
October 25th, 2005 at 11:42 pmBrian,
Yeah that makes sense.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:43 pmIt’s APPOINTED U.N. Ambassador, John Bolton, who spilled the important maiden-name of Wilson’s wife…
October 25th, 2005 at 11:51 pmSee this site: http://thisjuncture.blogspot.com
Herbert Walker.
Until the indictments are handed out, all this chatter is diffused speculation. I *am* curious as to who this mysterious Mr. X might be. I don’t believe there’s been enough information leaked yet to make a good guess. Once the indictments are handed out, we can at least eliminate those names from the list of possiblities.
I’m not craving blood for blood’s sake on this whole investigation. I just want justice.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:51 pmref: 10. Bush don’t have the brains for this so it’s gotta be Cheney.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:52 pmIt’s not brains, the issue is lack of brains as well as a lack of integrity.
“Until the indictments are handed out, all this chatter is diffused speculation.”
There’s some truth to what you say.
” I don’t believe there’s been enough information leaked yet to make a good guess.”
I agree and disagree. It’s clear an agent was intentionally targeted, and the laws are pretty clear on this violation being a criminal offense. The only speculation is who else other than Rove and/or Libby will be charged. It’s pretty clear both of them were involved in the smear and outing, what isn’t clear is who else was part of the conspiracy.
One can glean a lot already, because frankly a LOT has been leaked. Don’t forget virtually every journalist has already exposed their own experiences publically. Those experiences universally point to Rove and Libby.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:56 pm[...] UPDATE: Looks like the announcement will come tomorrow. [...]
October 25th, 2005 at 11:57 pm#316
I was one, too. Years ago (and I’m still pretty young, so chalk it up to youthful indescretions: at least I didn’t snort coke or run over my ex-significant other).
Oh well, I’m sleepy. Tell me what happened to the heirs of the Harriman Fifteen Corporation (Dresser Industries, AKA, Halliburton) tomorrow.
October 25th, 2005 at 11:57 pmAndrew,
The republican values can be seductive to some people, but they’re generally fools gold. Sooner or later most people do something stupid, but the smart people learn from those mistakes, the stupid ones keep making them and become propagandist trolls…
Keep learning, and don’t ever be afraid of the truth, even if it fights your preconceptions! And remember that people with their money on the line will usually scam you if they feel threatened or get greedy. That’s the first law of republicanism!
October 26th, 2005 at 12:01 am… Now that most of the trolls are out freezing their Fitzmas balls off , let’s all settle back and dream of GOP heads draped round the mantelpiece , with gilded indictments & tinsel hanging from their ears ! There , isn’t that pretty ? Have another glass of eggnog , bebes , and look at them ALL sparkling in the firelight ! Ahhhh ! … ;)
October 26th, 2005 at 12:02 am#67, first of all dumbya never does the right thing, and secondly if he fired people for being stupid, he would have fired himself years ago.
My money is on Crash-Cart cheeney. He is known to be the most vile, mean man in DC and probably delighted in knowing what he had done. He is known to have been fixated on the Wilson/Plame thing, just wouldn’t let it go. He is the traitor!
October 26th, 2005 at 12:08 am#78Another question to the Forum-
If Rove and Libby are cellies, I wonder who’ll
be the Pitcher and who’ll be the Catcher?
NeD, IRI, CC, RDN- any bets?
Comment by jparker
Heck they’ll just bump pu&&&&&ies and giggle.
October 26th, 2005 at 12:12 amI have to go with George Tenet for Mr. X.
October 26th, 2005 at 12:25 am[...] He was the first to break the indictment story (at approximately 4:30pm) and was soon followed by CBS Nightly News (at 5:55pm) and the story was later picked up by the Financial Times around 10:30pm. [...]
October 26th, 2005 at 12:31 amIronically, Robert Novack brings downt he white house-my money is on Ari…
October 26th, 2005 at 12:32 am[...] Today was a long and shitty day for me. But there were a few juicy bits of news that you should all know about: INDICTMENTS TO COME TOMORROW? Another story HERE CNN canceled its scheduled guests for tomorrow. The word is the letters were delivered yesterday . . . Military deaths break 2,000 mark today. This is corny, but please take a second and just think about those who have sacrificed their lives for this “war.” A new poll was released today that shows most Americans now think Iraq was a bad idea. Bush drops plan to build bunker-busting nukes. Did the White House attack Joe Wilson because they knew the Niger nuke thing was bullshit all along? I think so. And, the voice of the Jolly Green Giant died today Posted by: tony on Oct 25, 05 | 9:30 pm | Profile [0] comments (0 views) | [0] Trackbacks [0] Pingbacks [...]
October 26th, 2005 at 12:46 amWUERMSER
October 26th, 2005 at 1:34 amMy money is on The Wurm.
October 26th, 2005 at 2:21 am[...] Further, according to Think Report – proprietor Steve Clemons actually, apparently, watches CBS News (go figure) – there may be a heretofore unmentioned “Mr. X” who is the primary target. [...]
October 26th, 2005 at 2:46 am[...] Think Progress: BREAKING: CBS To Report Fitzgerald Will Make His Decision Known Tomorrow [...]
October 26th, 2005 at 2:56 am“If Plame never put down Brewster Jennings on that form, we would have never known about it.
Comment by Gary Ruppert — October 25, 2005 @ 7:33 pm”
You are thoroughly fucking retarded, aren’t you?
Let me explain the concept of a “front company” in the most simple terms I can. “Front” means this is who she tells people she works for. The company itself has been designed to stand up to scrutiny.
See, the people Plame was dealing with in her day-to-day covert activities overseas knew she worked for Brewster Jennings. It would have looked very suspicious to anyone doing a spot check on her if she *didn’t* put down her front company on legal forms which requested it, such as her tax filings and her donation form.
By outing Plame’s undercover agent status, even the most dimwitted and incomprehensively sub-moronic terrorist (or maybe even someone like you) could have guessed that the company she worked for was a CIA operation as well.
I suggest you let that percolate before you go back to Ken Mehlman’s rectum to glean out a few more talking point nuggets.
October 26th, 2005 at 3:13 amJANET RENO!
October 26th, 2005 at 4:41 am“Why did John Ashcroft recuse himself?
To shut leftists like you up.”
Ashcroft thrives on chaos and confrontation too much to sacfifice himself, or give up a chance to cause waves, just to shut up Democrats. “It just doesn’t sound manly to me, Bill”
October 26th, 2005 at 6:04 amIs it possible that there is more than one Mr. or Ms. X? Could it literally be a string of people? Maybe Cheney, Ari Fleischer and Mary Matalin?
October 26th, 2005 at 6:12 amStop!!!! your all hurting America
October 26th, 2005 at 7:54 amCould it be?
MAnne Coulter?
Err,
Arthur Coulter?
Dangit
Anne Coltrane?
Fricking Keyboard.
Arthur Coltrane?
crap.
I mean Ann Coulter?
One “Reporter” that mentioned seeing the P.D.B was Jeff Gannon aka Schill for Republican News Service Talon News.
Whom was Gannon Visiting during his 200 Trips?
My money goes on Gannon.
Speculation.
Dona foget da bush monika momentsky. =)
October 26th, 2005 at 8:01 amhttp://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushmonica.htm
After thunk.
As far as Why Ashcroft Had to recuse Himself was due to his Using Rove as a His Campaign Adviser..Conflict of Interest.
The Leftists didnt have to shut Ashcroft up. Rove and Ashcroft did that for them.
Gimme a K
Gimme a A
Gimme a R
Gimme a L
Go Karl.
P.S. Take that Inflatable Bush Doll with you.
October 26th, 2005 at 8:17 amI’m liking Ned Flanders, er Bolton. He’s such a bastard. And sifting through all of those classified files in his office in the dark with a small pen light (just because it makes him feel so covert) wiping crumbs off of his moustache pouring over all of the names of people he could ruin while intermittently stealing glances of himself in a mirror making sure his hair is just so. Now, on the UN!!
October 26th, 2005 at 9:22 amA late guess,;The vine branches off from melonhead turd blossom to Tenet. “The Brain” had the dirty trick motive, got the ok from Libby(Cheney), and needed the ammo from Tenet. Never did quite fully understand why he resigned so quickly and was replaced by a “Brownie”.
October 26th, 2005 at 9:34 amThe only reason to re-interview the following person would be to cement the premise that a CIA operative was in fact undercover. TREASON folks. An indictment for T-R-E-A-S-O-N.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/10/26/cia.leak/
“On Tuesday, FBI agents interviewed a Washington neighbor of Valerie Plame for a second time.”
October 26th, 2005 at 10:00 amOne thing I am impressed and happy with; Fitzgerald has held himself to much higher ethics and standards than Ken Starr ever did. We don’t see daily leaking of “incriminating” evidence or testimony. That is one more reason to feel that Whitewater was completely political in nature.
357 comments. I think that might be a record here.
October 26th, 2005 at 10:00 amMy hope is that the “war machine” will be discredited…
October 26th, 2005 at 10:11 amBefore you silly folks get your hopes high,recall all the past investagations and 9/11 pending one—DUDS!SCAMS!
October 26th, 2005 at 10:14 amIf FritzPattyCake was a threat–he’d be 8 ft under.It is a wonder that Joey Wilson is not dead as Arafat and Kelly. Have you forgotten the killing in the Whitewater national park capper?
The puppet master-Mr.X is Sharon. Really folks. But Fritz ain’t going after him-cause MOSSAD is holding back his life on earth.
You saps are forgetful–Mr. Moogo,(Ken Starr)–big climax up to the end and dick lost it’s erection!
Fritz-just another WH stiff.Fools abound in USA
We are in Hell. It is time for these people to be REMOVED! Either get them out of office NOW or condemn your children to a life in hell.
October 26th, 2005 at 10:16 amThe Mr X could just as wll be the male prostitute who had all kinds of free pass to the Wh, House. What was his name? Jim Guckert or…?
October 26th, 2005 at 10:29 amTwas the night before Fitzmas, and in the White House
Every one was scared shitless, and Bush was quite soused
The indictments were hanging like Damoceles’ sword
As verminous oxen prepared to be gored
The perps were all sleepless, curled fetal in bed
While visions of prison cells loomed in each head
And Dick in his jammies, and George in his lap
Were sweating and swearing and looking like crap
When out on the web there arose such a clatter
The blogs and the forums were buzzing with chatter
Away to the PC Rove ran like a flash
He booted his browser and cleared out his cache
The rumors that flew through the cold autumn air
Made Dubya shiver with angry despair
When what to his horror-filled eyes did he spy?
A bespectacled man with a brown suit and tie!
With an impartial manner that gave Bush the shits
He knew in a moment it must be St. Fitz!
With unwavering voice, his indictments they came
He cleared out his throat and he called them by name:
Now Scooter, Now Libby,
Now Blossoming Turd,
Now Cheney, dear Cheney,
Yes, you are the third
To the bench of the court
Up the steps, down the hall
Now come along, come along,
Come along, all!
He then became silent, and went right to work
He filed the indictments and turned with a jerk
And pointing his finger at justice’s scale
Said, “The people be served, and let fairness prevail.â€
He then left the room, to his team gave a nod
And the sound could be heard of a crumbling facade
And we all did exclaim, as he faded from sight
“Merry Fitzmas to all, and to all a good night!â€
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October 26th, 2005 at 10:47 amWill the Shrub pardon Cheney, Rove, Libby, Wolfowitz and etc….? I hope they get all of them – for the leak and for lying to the nation and the world.
Thank goodness Fitzgerald seems to be standing up to the conflicted and corrupt and ideological Bush machine – the dems haven’t, the congress (republican control) hasn’t, the supreme court hasn’t, the world hasn’t, the press hasn’t, and the American people haven’t. I just hope it’s not too late for many – my heart goes out to those who have lost loved one’s in Iraq. The way this whole thing is starting to play out must be very difficult and troubling to the families – we can’t forget their sacrifice.
Our nation deserves so much better than this. We need a 3rd political party to throw the bums out.
Peace.
October 26th, 2005 at 10:52 amNo news today. Too bad. I’ve been waiting for 2 years…
October 26th, 2005 at 11:19 amWithout understanding his background and based purely on his performances to date in this investigation, does anybody else feel that Fitzgerald would be a good replacement for Miers at the Supreme Court.
October 26th, 2005 at 11:33 amGood idea, Blairite. At least we have some info on him; he seems transparent comparitively speaking.
October 26th, 2005 at 11:48 ami
October 26th, 2005 at 12:38 pmIt is wonderful to see a chimp backed into a corner and his handlers running for their lives!
Could it be that someone threw chimpy’s wrench in the WH spin machine?
Oh well, they can all move to Argentina, I hear that country is great at taking in war criminals.
MERRY FITZMAS!
October 26th, 2005 at 12:56 pmWhat a bunch of cr– again. this special investagator bull is just a way to make it seem like something is beiing done a what is really a matter of treason and punishable by death.{that is if you don”t have the money or influense to get you off].the investagators and all will make a lot of money suposidly investagating and behind the seens they will nogociate their way out of the charges.boy, Chainey is going to have to resighn and spend all that money he”s received from Hallaberton.The real thing that should be going on here is impeachment of Bush baby,who knows all about this and is part of this and other impeachable offences.How about 9/11,there where less than 10,000 people in two building that employed 50,000.What about the vistors ,they usually had upwards of 100,000 people a day.Where were they.Sounds like Pearl Harbor all over again, to motavate the sheep[excuse me I ment the American People]into letting them use our millitary to steal some oil and to protect money and special interests in the middle east.How about those muti-million dollar man-made Island in the Gulf south of Kuwait that their build.You know where Sudom Hosain was running his oil pipeline down to along the border of Kuwait after he did”t want to join the oil mubsters [excuse me again,I ment OPEC ] who run the world oil scam.
October 26th, 2005 at 1:07 pmWhat a bunch of cr– again. this special investagator bull is just a way to make it seem like something is beiing done a what is really a matter of treason and punishable by death.{that is if you don”t have the money or influense to get you off].the investagators and all will make a lot of money suposidly investagating and behind the seens they will nogociate their way out of the charges.boy, Chainey is going to have to resighn and spend all that money he”s received from Hallaberton.The real thing that should be going on here is impeachment of Bush baby,who knows all about this and is part of this and other impeachable offences.How about 9/11,there where less than 10,000 people in two building that employed 50,000.What about the vistors ,they usually had upwards of 100,000 people a day.Where were they.Sounds like Pearl Harbor all over again, to motavate the sheep[excuse me I ment the American People]into letting them use our millitary to steal some oil and to protect money and special interests in the middle east.How about those muti-million dollar man-made Island in the Gulf south of Kuwait that their build.You know where Sudom Hosain was running his oil pipeline down to along the border of Kuwait after he did”t want to join the oil mubsters [excuse me again,I ment OPEC ] who run the world oil scam.
October 26th, 2005 at 1:07 pmTo see my post on what the Democrats Message should be regarding Plamegate:
view: http://www.skaroff.com/blog
October 26th, 2005 at 1:22 pmAshcroft is mr X
October 26th, 2005 at 1:28 pmYes your right Butter Beans,What a bunch of cr– again. this special investagator bull is just a way to make it seem like something is beiing done a what is really a matter of treason and punishable by death.{that is if you don”t have the money or influense to get you off].the investagators and all will make a lot of money suposidly investagating and behind the seens they will nogociate their way out of the charges.boy, Chainey is going to have to resighn and spend all that money he”s received from Hallaberton.The real thing that should be going on here is impeachment of Bush baby,who knows all about this and is part of this and other impeachable offences.How about 9/11,there where less than 10,000 people in two building that employed 50,000.What about the vistors ,they usually had upwards of 100,000 people a day.Where were they.Sounds like Pearl Harbor all over again, to motavate the sheep[excuse me I ment the American People]into letting them use our millitary to steal some oil and to protect money and special interests in the middle east.How about those muti-million dollar man-made Island in the Gulf south of Kuwait that their build.You know where Sudom Hosain was running his oil pipeline down to along the border of Kuwait after he did”t want to join the oil mubsters [excuse me again,I ment OPEC ] who run the world oil scam.But will the amarican people see this.Like they seem the Nixon bull they pulled.What was White Water all about? It was all about the paties taking illeal campaighn contrubtion from China.The pressident had all the right in the world to have them go in there and investagate,it was national security.But the people who really run the country are making money on that and they control whats on the news and your courts and did”t like Nixon metaling in so they turned it into a case of Nixon doing and illeagal act.,whitch the president has imunity from any act that he perform in the corrse of his job.How about the News reporting that Gore was found years later in the back of a limo taking money from the Chinese.Nixon who should have been exonorated dies a few months later.But the people who really run our country and court systems had him stone walled and the american people bull crapped as to what the real issue was.How about the Clinton”s wanting to do something about heathcare .The people who run our country are making trillion on it so they send in Lawinsky, one of their people to get the president. in a compamising position so they can stonewall and nogosate given Ms. Clinton a senate seat in N.Y. to stop them from doing anything further about the cash cow our medical industry.Wake up people , try using your own brain and looking what is going on and not just following what ever your told.If it smell like it bad ,it ussually is.
October 26th, 2005 at 1:52 pmFYI- Sorry if this is already in here somewhere. Raw Story is saying that two other people Fitz is asking the jury to indict does not work for the White House, so that narrows it down. Damn! I was really hoping Cheney would get it. I guess I have to start letting go of that particular fantasy because if he were one it definitely would have leaked by now. But on the happy, happy, happy side at least we have a shot at Rove and Libby and 90% of Americans think these guys did something “unethical”! That cheers me up! Raw Story also reports that Fitz offered Karl a deal to plead guilty to perjury and Fitz would drop the obstruction charge- Rove declined. Also says Fitz will indict Scooter on outing a covert op. I’ve seen Raw Story be right and I’ve seen them be wrong, but they’ve been right more often on this case as far as I can tell.
October 26th, 2005 at 1:58 pmSorry- here’s the link.
http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Prosecutor_in_leak_case_seeks_indictments_1026.html
October 26th, 2005 at 2:00 pmWhat if Condi is Mr. X? Nah…they are grooming her to replace Cheney when he steps down due to health reasons. She will become VP and then run against Hillary in 2008 for Prez.
October 26th, 2005 at 2:20 pmMr. X is Joe “Liar” Wison, and his wife wasn’t a covert agent…
October 26th, 2005 at 4:34 pmThe outting of Plame was clearly not a violation of the law. Libby is in the most danger for possible perjury
October 26th, 2005 at 4:39 pmOuting a covert CIA agent and her front company working on wmd’s during a time of war is not a crime, jeez what WOULD constitute a crime then? i vote for John Bolton. Would Doug Feith have aceess to that info?
October 26th, 2005 at 5:28 pmWE NEED TO GET BACK AND DO A COMPLETE INVESTIGATION OF THE PENTAGON “EXPLOSION ” NO ONE HAS EVET THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED THIS “FIASCO” WHERE “NIXON ” CAME BACK AND ALTERED THE TAPE WITH HIS SECRETARY RUMSFELD ,WHO /WHOM ORIGINALLY STATED A “MISSILE “HIT THE PENTAGON AND HE SHOULD KNOW; MYERS COVERUP STORY SUCKS ,ALONG WITH WITH 2 PENTAGON REPORTERS ,JAIMEE MCINTYRE AND JIM MIKLASZEWSKI.. DON’T WE NORMALLY INVESTIGATE HOMOCIDES? 2 ELLIS ST WOBURN MA 08101
October 26th, 2005 at 5:37 pmI suspect someone at DOD – Rummy, Wolfy or Vicki Clark.
October 26th, 2005 at 5:38 pmI DID AND IT DISAPPEARED WHEN I HIT THE POST / I AGREE
October 26th, 2005 at 5:39 pmyikes! Joe – unlock the caps, for the love of GOD!!
October 26th, 2005 at 5:39 pmLooks like Raw Story and TP jumped the gun – again. No announcements. No indictments. Nothing.
Doesn’t Fitz know that he’s jeopardizing the health of hundreds of thousands of liberals who are holding their breath and pissing themselves over this? C’mon, Fitz, let then have their collective orgasm.
October 26th, 2005 at 5:47 pm“I suspect someone at DOD – Rummy, Wolfy or Vicki Clark.”
It’s Mark Felt.
October 26th, 2005 at 5:48 pm“INVESTIGATE HOMOCIDES?”
“Homocides?” Murder of gay people?
October 26th, 2005 at 5:51 pmSS,
We’re not into water sports, but apparently you are. Maybe you lost your bladder in the military where it’s obvious you gave up your ability to critically think. Assuming you ever possessed such an ability.
October 26th, 2005 at 6:12 pmSS,
We’ve put with 5 years of ineptitude and mismanagement, we can wait until the filing – can you? The anticipation of the damage this will inflict must just be frightening to you. Why else would you be on this site trying to spread all of the lies and propaganda that you’ve been spewing. You should get that colostomy bag changed, surely you’ve pushed it full today.
October 26th, 2005 at 6:15 pmso this is where the kool-aid is made…you people need some fresh air… What a buch of whaco’s
October 26th, 2005 at 6:44 pmMSNBC/AP wire/Drudge: Special Report- “Cheney will announce his resignation tonight at 9:00 PM East Coast Standard”, All of Washington Press Corp Scrambling to White House. Fitzgerald indicting the VP Sources at the White House confirm Cheney knew Plame was Covert. Cheney to ink deal with SP to avoid crimminal trial White house sources say Bush asked Cheney to step down Mavrick moderate Senator McCain (AZ) to be in attendance along side VP at announcement? Breaking……………White House in Meltdown
October 26th, 2005 at 7:53 pmHoly Crap… He shit dirt bags, eat shit.
October 26th, 2005 at 7:55 pmMr. X has always been Iago (See Shakespeare’s Othelo) alias: Cheney.
October 27th, 2005 at 3:54 pmRyan Neat I want you to sleep with my wife, and then we can do a suicide pack. I am gonna eat you boy.
October 27th, 2005 at 9:10 pmFitz will have many big Fits ,if the slow poke does not do something–2 years he dragged the thing and the Bushel of Shit is still in power.If you idiots think that Fitz will expose the rats and see them run–you are sadly mistaken.Just watch,Fitz is all Fizz and no Pop.The guy would be signing his self death warrent, if he touch Chenny Chen or Rover the attack dog. Bush has his MOSSAD Maffia Goons on standby–cause Fitz is going to extend the investagation–until–2008.
October 28th, 2005 at 11:20 amSharon will not let this Peace of Sh!t Shill-Bush down–Mark my trusty words–Saps abound in USA.
will america ever recover from this. any age any party they are all crooks,war mongers,scum, republicrat trash ,without the least concern for the world or future generations.oil junkies , they would sell there children for power.
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