The Miers Withdrawal: A Sign of Weakness
The Miers Withdrawal: A Sign of Weakness
The withdrawal of Harriet Miers today sends a signal that President Bush’s agenda and political power are in a state of increasing weakness:
“Despite an outcry among some conservatives over the nomination, Specter said yesterday that he doubted Miers would withdraw from consideration or that Bush would ask her to. ‘It would be seen as a tremendous sign of weakness to have her withdraw,’ Specter said.†[Philadelphia Inquirer, 10/18/05]
“For her part, Totenberg does not believe the chatter that Miers might withdraw, saying that ‘it would make the president look weak,’ she said.†[Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 10/19/05]
“Either Miers will be confirmed to the Supreme Court with some conservative votes against her and a general feeling of distaste, or conservative opposition will cause Miers to withdraw or be defeated, further weakening the president.†[The Hill, 10/12/05]
“[T]he main argument against a Miers’ withdrawal is that President Bush is probably determined to see it through. It would seem to be out of character for him to surrender to the critics. … It would be out of character for him to withdraw her name, and he probably has calculated that a withdrawal would be widely interpreted as a sign of political weakness, and that by itself would make it more difficult for him to deal with an increasingly skeptical Congress.” [Dick Polman, Philadelphia Inquirer, 10/13/05]
Mort Kondracke: “If [Bush] were to pull her now, this would be an indication that he’s caving into the right-wing groups.” [Fox News, 10/26/05]
UPDATE: Bush, 10/7/05
Q So are you ruling it out, any withdrawal?
PRESIDENT BUSH: No, she is going to be on the bench, she’ll be confirmed — and when she’s on the bench people will see a fantastic woman who is honest, open, humble and capable of being a great Supreme Court Judge.
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This administration in itself is a sign of weakness.
October 27th, 2005 at 9:40 amAnother One Bites The Dust!!
October 27th, 2005 at 9:44 amI for one was looking forward to Biden and Kennedy questioning Miers. That would have been great drama. Could you imagine how many stacks of paper she would have in front of here, it would look like Sean Hannity’s desk.
October 27th, 2005 at 9:45 amThe “regular people,” the people who don’t care to understand issues but enjoy talking politics are going to see this as a sign of weakness, Bush is now a liar, a flip-flopper and a girly man.
October 27th, 2005 at 9:45 amI don’t think this is a sign of weakness at all. Perhaps on Miers’ part, but not on the Presidents. He took a chance and (thankfully?!?) it didn’t pan out. I just fear that he will now nominate a more conservative judge…
October 27th, 2005 at 9:49 amTheir ship is taking on water… fast.
October 27th, 2005 at 9:52 amYou can see through this charade though. It wasn’t her idea to withdraw and it wasn’t “reluctantly” that Bush accepted it. I think reality finally settled in down there and they are trying to make it sound like she wimped out but really it was forced.
October 27th, 2005 at 9:52 am#5 - That is my fear as well… Was Harriet the best we could have gotten from Bush?
October 27th, 2005 at 9:52 amHmmm. Miers submits her withdrawal and Bush accepts it (this from the “most qualified person in America to be on the SC”). Rummy submits his resignation, what, twice, and Bush turns him down?
May be a sign of weakness. How about yet another attempt to grab headlines, divert attention, on a day when indictments may be announced?
October 27th, 2005 at 9:54 amEmbarrassing is perhaps the best word to use on this present administration. Everyone knew that George W. was not an intellectual giant but the religious”hard:
October 27th, 2005 at 9:59 amright was willing to go to bed with anybody in order to gain a seat at the power table and they did.
So what now? Impeachment is the preferable method to replace this lowlife Bush, but short of impeachment just let him fly around in Air Force 1,listen[ng to “hail to the chief” and otherwise totally disregard him.
I wonder what it is like inside the White House these days. Do they still not care what anybody thinks?
Now that W has been shown that his own party will not stand for every bird brained idea he gets, maybe he will pay attention to things like;
His VP lying to the press, the American people, the FBI, Fitzgerald - and then getting caught. The likes of Libby and Rove laughing at protests of all sorts, dismal ratings in all polls, and the Constitution - only to find themselves becoming sacrificial lambs.
The ever powerful Delay being stripped of all political power by his own stupidity.
Homeland Security being exposed as probably the single most bloated beaurocracy ever created and still unable to executive it’s prime duty.
Bush has gone from being the untouchable leader of the greatest nation in the world to an immasculated lame duck with no influence even amongst former allies.
October 27th, 2005 at 10:00 amBush did this on purpose. He already has another nominee ready.It will probably be Owen or Brown. The Dems better have a backbone and standup against these nominees. Filibuster sound good to me.
October 27th, 2005 at 10:00 am“lest our old robes rest easier than our new” (or something like that)
seriously, between this, Social Security, Davis-Bacon, Rove-Libby, Frist-DeLay, etc. Bush is looking mighty weak indeed…
let’s hope he weakens his stance on torture… it’s an embarrassment to us all…
October 27th, 2005 at 10:01 amYeay for our side.
But we all know whomever dubya puts up next, will harbor the same views.
I hope I’m wrong. I mean, it will be easy if he nominates J Brown or P Owen cause then the filibuster would be on. No, it’s gonna be another shadow justice like Roberts.
Still though, pat ourselves on the back & let’s give (sorry folks) the crazy wing of the conservative movement for helping to push Meirs out.
October 27th, 2005 at 10:02 am“Q So are you ruling it out, any withdrawal?
PRESIDENT BUSH: No, she is going to be on the bench, she’ll be confirmed — and when she’s on the bench people will see a fantastic woman who is honest, open, humble and capable of being a great Supreme Court Judge.”
Bush LIED!
October 27th, 2005 at 10:02 amYour giving them far too much credit to say this is a distraction. They are falling apart and have no plan. They get weaker by they day. The things that would have come out in questioning her would have reopened old issues Carl Rove had successfully buried like his National Guard vacation.
October 27th, 2005 at 10:04 am#5, 8, etc…there’s no more “if”s when talking about a radical nomination. It’s in the BAG. Bush will turn and put the most rabid, back-assward, insanely conservative on the bench that he can find. My bet is Brown, if not Owens. Both of which are salivating at the chance to overturn R v W….
October 27th, 2005 at 10:04 amI agree with #12. This was a ploy to distract from “other” issues and secondly, to force the religious right to form up and assert their right to a conservative judge who is clearly anti-abortion. Now, the repubs can line up behind a hard right conservative judge and please their supporters from the far religious right…thus holding them through the 2006 elections and beyond because they delivered the goods!
October 27th, 2005 at 10:08 am“Anybody seen my political capital??? anybody? Karl? Andy?”
October 27th, 2005 at 10:09 amMiers Withdraws Nomination
At 8:30 this morning, Harriet Miers informed the President she was withdrawing from consideration for the Supreme Court vacancy created by Justice O’Connor’s resignation.
October 27th, 2005 at 10:10 am“The likes of Libby and Rove laughing at protests of all sorts”
Jeez, who DOESN’T laugh at the shrill, over-the-top whining protestors with their “Bush is Hitler” signs….? They are funny to watch. My personal favorite is the group of hairy bull-dyke lesbians who take off their shirts and carry the “Breasts, Not Bombs” signs.
There’s just no denying that when leftists get together, hilarity ensues.
October 27th, 2005 at 10:13 amThere’s just no denying that when leftists get together, hilarity ensues.
Comment by Sceptimus Smith
yeah … just as there’s no denying that young men and women dying in a war based on lies is a laugh-frickin- riot … all the thousands of men and women coming home missing limbs … whoooo … boy … stop me if you’ve hear this one before …
October 27th, 2005 at 10:16 am#21 The extreme ends of both parties are laughable. The extreme left is just less likely to shoot a doctor or blow up a clinic “for God”.
October 27th, 2005 at 10:17 amBush promised his base that he would nominate a strict constructionist. From what little was available to learn about Miers, she wasn’t. Miers knew Bush would never ask her to withdraw out of loyalty to her, so she did the right thing and withdrew herself - no harm, no foul. Hopefully the next nominee will be qualified - I for one am giddy at the prospect that we will finally see the Constitution interpreted by SCOTUS as it was written and intended by the framers, and not as liberal activists wished it were written.
October 27th, 2005 at 10:29 amHarriet Miers mistimes her withdrawal by one day
WASHINGTON: An attempt by the Bush White House to divert media and public attention from the CIA leak case backfired today when they mistimed the withdrawal of Harriet Miers’ nomination to the Supreme Court. Our sources told us yesterday that
October 27th, 2005 at 10:35 am“yeah … just as there’s no denying that young men and women dying in a war based on lies is a laugh-frickin- riot … all the thousands of men and women coming home missing limbs … whoooo … boy … stop me if you’ve hear this one before…”
You left some stuff out, homie….don’t you know you are supposed to have the talking points memorized? Here, let me help out…Smirky McChimpler is Hitler, Halliburton, Bush lied, people died, Halliburton, no blood for oil, Halliburton, Bush lied….oh wait, I said that one already. Cheney, yeah, Cheney lied….Halliburton….Impeach Bushitler, Halliburton…
There. Don’t say I never gave you anything.
October 27th, 2005 at 10:35 am[…] Goodness. With the news that Harriet Miers has withdrawn from being considered for the Supreme Court and possible Plamegate indictments coming down today for top administration officials … it looks like it could be a banner day for our imperial leader, George W. Bush. Posted by Chas. at 10:37 am | In Current Events | Leave a Comment […]
October 27th, 2005 at 10:37 amBush suffers his first major defeat, at the hands of his own party, but we won’t hear much of it on the Sunday pundit circus. Tomorrow (maybe even today) Plamegate’s first indictments are expected to fall. That will certainly be the top, and probably only, story covered by the punditocracy for the next few days, if not weeks/months.
So, by orchestrating this phony “we need to see personal attorney/client documents”, the Republicans threw Bush a lifeline, allowing him to have Miers walk the plank without sinking him even further in the public’s mind.
But the brilliance of doing this so stunningly fast, within less than a week of when they came up with the “documents or no nomination” strategy, says to me that this was all planned around the possible indictment drop.
Giving credit where I believe it is due, in the midst of immense legal problems it looks like Karl Rove still spent some time plotting strategy for his protege, pResident Shrub.
October 27th, 2005 at 10:40 amNow, if Shrubs up to his rep, he’ll have Bush wait until sometime mid of late next week, and then have him drop a controversial, right-wing judge onto the Senate as his new nominee. The resulting battle will help force next week’s political TV talk shows to book guests to discuss the new nomination, giving the indictments of Rove, Scooter et al, the more important Bushie offense, less prominence once again!
And it all provides the right-wing radio cabal (Rush, Hannity, Savage etc.) topics they can handle, rather than them having to discuss indictments all week!
Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. Talk about making lemonade out of lemons. Rove foregos that old recipe and throws a puffy, sweet camouflaging meringue over the sour stories and gives the sweet-toothed press a slice of pie!
Make way for Justice John Ashcroft.
October 27th, 2005 at 10:44 amI don’t think WE were responsible for her withdrawal at all. Liberals have no voice at this time. Hence the debauchery of the last five years. The religious/idealogical conservatives no likey Miers… Bush will nominate a rediculous judge with views that will push our country backwards on issues such as civil rights, the environment etc… We can only hope and pray dems show some teamwork as an opposition to what will definateley be a worse SCOTUS Justice nominee.
October 27th, 2005 at 10:45 amNot So Resolute After All
Bush has been forced into two prominent reversals in the past 24 hours. One of them promises hope, while it’s unclear what the other means for the future.
October 27th, 2005 at 10:46 amYesterday afternoon the White House announced a reinstatement of a provision of the Davis…
Sceptimus… could today be the day? I cant wait to hear the excuses you’ve been practicing to defend your cumbersome leaders. Hopefully they will be presented as humorous as they are hairbrained and haughty.
October 27th, 2005 at 10:48 amGet a job SS. You appear to have lots of time on your hands.
Funny how conservatives claim to want a strict constitutionalist till the strict constitutionalists vote against them (remember Terri Schavio). Yea, the right railed that conservative republican Federal & SCOTUS justices could vote against their wishes.
You speak with forked tongue. You say one thing but want another. Sure you want a “strict constructionist” (ie - really that is a code for fundamentalist activist), & go ahead and see how far Pricilla or Janice gets.
PS - you brought up hitler first today you brownshirt loving goosestepping fool.
October 27th, 2005 at 10:49 amIMO Bush realizes he can’t put a true anti-abortionist on SCOTUS, one who will make all abortions absolutely illegal because of the backlash Republicans will receive when the reality of that decision hits Main St.
The ramifications of illegal abortion are staggering. Republicans have been able to successfully hide behind their moralistic shield of being anti-abortion for years knowing if they really defeat Roe v.Wade the political consequences will be enormous and devasting. It’s hard to even imagine the changes that will result.
Meirs was the perfect candidate for continuing with their all talk and no action policy of stealth.
October 27th, 2005 at 10:54 amand capable of being a great Supreme Court Judge.
Comment by Half-Wit - 10/7/05
And just how in the hell would his dumb-ass know?
October 27th, 2005 at 10:57 amYou left some stuff out, homie….don’t you know you are supposed to have the talking points memorized? Here, let me help out…Smirky McChimpler is Hitler, Halliburton, Bush lied, people died, Halliburton, no blood for oil, Halliburton, Bush lied….oh wait, I said that one already. Cheney, yeah, Cheney lied….Halliburton….Impeach Bushitler, Halliburton…
goodness, SS … did I strike me a little ol’ nerve???
Bush did lie.
Cheney did lie.
Halliburton has raped OUR tax dollars (good god, if this benefitted a Clinton crony the same way it benefits the Bush/Cheney administration, we’d never hear the end of it from you)
truth hurts.
October 27th, 2005 at 11:10 amBe careful what you wish for. President Bush has repeatedly been counted out as weak and ineffective during his presidency, only to score victory after victory in foreign policy, economic policy, and, yes, judicial nominations. The left is going to regret this development in the long run.
October 27th, 2005 at 11:18 amSS is such a fool. I enjoyed his faux-liberal rant though, first time I’ve heard him almost make sense!
October 27th, 2005 at 11:19 amShleptippuss - Nice comments about dykes. I’m sure you believe it to be a sin. Funny how your type always whines about being “literal”, yet you select the parts of the bible and constitution that best fit YOUR needs. Bet you’re divorced, get your hair cut, and eat bacon. This lipstick-dyke will be saving you a seat in hell, my brotha.
October 27th, 2005 at 11:23 amEverybody wonder with me now — Gee what might those papers our President refused to provide say and why did he think they would not be requested in the first place? . . . .
October 27th, 2005 at 11:25 amEverybody wonder with me now — Gee what might those papers our President refused to provide say and why did he think they would not be requested in the first place? . . . .
October 27th, 2005 at 11:25 amHey BSR…
What foreign Policy Victory was that?
October 27th, 2005 at 11:26 amJanice Rogers Brown is next. What is fat Teddy K. gonna do with her — call her a racist?
October 27th, 2005 at 11:26 amIS this withdrawal a sign of weakness? Well, maybe, but frankly I think it’s more a sign of stupidity. When you have an unworkable strategy, how can you be successful?
There is plenty of strength for the president to draw upon, unfortunately. Now the question is: Will he draw on the right-wing neofascists’ strength and nominate some nutcase or will he continue with his stealth strategy of supreme court picks?
Everyone agrees the right wingers want a fight. Will Bush abandon his own approach and nominate one of their annointed fanatics? Somehow, my money is on yet another surprise from Bush. I don’t think he’s just going to roll over and pick who these ultraconservatives expect him to.
October 27th, 2005 at 11:43 amFilibuster cc, filibuster.
Not only that, it would be a SUCCESSFUL filibuster.
Yea, dumbya’s presidential standing could really do with a new swift kick in the huevos.
October 27th, 2005 at 11:49 amOne hates to think along with Karl Rove, but was the whole Miers’ nomination/withdrawal simply a charade so that a far more conservative/reactionary nominee be put in place with a better chance at confirmation since the President’s “original nominee” was forced to withdraw?
October 27th, 2005 at 11:52 am“Janice Rogers Brown is next. What is fat Teddy K. gonna do with her — call her a racist?
Comment by Concerned Conservative”
How about a religious zealot, an activist judge, and an idiot. That seems sufficient to disqualify her. And while we’re on name calling, ‘fat Teddy K.’ is name calling. Aren’t you the idiot that pissed in my corn flakes for name calling? YOU STUPID FAT REPUBLICAN HYPOCRITE!
October 27th, 2005 at 12:05 pmChuck,
That was one of the early things I speculated. I still believe it to be true.
October 27th, 2005 at 12:06 pmBrown is an ACTIVIST judge. I thought you right wingers didn’t want that? What about the litmus test? I thought they didn’t approve of that either. Why can’t these fools just be honest? They need to “trick” the average American that is too busy working than to deal with politics.
October 27th, 2005 at 12:22 pmwait not so fast. i’m sure that bush will remember his huge bank of political capital and give Miers the rummie treatment. you may tender yor resignation, but I do not accept as a man of conviction (I mean crony infliction).
October 27th, 2005 at 12:40 pmWas she ever truly a nominee? If you will forgive a bit of paranoia for a moment, is it possible that it was never the intention of the Bush administration to advance her nomination? Is it possible that in their distorted and perverted view of the world, the nomination was offered with the expectation that it would be withdrawn just as Pat Fitzpatrick’s presentation to the grand jury was drawing to a close? It would not be the first (and unfortunately likely not the last) time that the Bush administration abused its responsibilities to the electorate and its broader constituency by playing games with the mechanisms of government.
I can certainly be accused of being paranoid and my suppositions plainly absurd. Nevertheless, this administration has done nothing to earn the right to proclaim with certitude that it would never stoop to such an abuse of process. It may very well be that there is nothing more at play here than the arrogance and ever-increasing incompetence of a lame duck President who hasn’t a clue about his responsibilities under the Constitution to the Country and to the integrity of the Court. This was, after all, a President who either was so full of his self-righteousness or so incredibly incompetent as to defend and support the nomination of his personal lawyer by pointing not to her qualifications as a lawyer but to her qualifications as a Christian. Assuming, again, that this was not entirely a sham nomination, there can be no doubt that when the President announces that, “She’s one of us†in defense of his long-time friend and supporter all Americans lose because we are subject to a President who either cares nothing for the Constitution or is simply so ignorant of the Constitutional limits imposed on his office that he was unaware that is pronouncement violated Article IV, Clause 3 prohibiting the use of a religious test to gauge a nominee’s qualifications. This is, after all, a President who views the government as his personal play thing for rewarding his most loyal friends and supporters with government positions for which they hold no qualification other than their undying loyalty to Mr. Bush and his family and Ms Miers — in both her loyalty and lack of qualification — would snuggly fit this mold.
On the other hand…..is it not also reasonable to believe that Bush and his advisors never intended to go through with the Miers’ nomination? Clearly, they must have known that the nomination was doomed from the outset. Beyond the obvious…that she had never served as a judge and provided no indication that she was sufficiently conversant in the Constitution to interpret and apply its anachronistic pronouncements…Bush and his must have known that her service as personal counsel to Bush both before and during his presidency would present a nearly-impenetrable obstacle to overcome. Are we to believe that they only today or recently came to realize that her advice to W would become an issue and that they would never be able to share that information with the Judiciary Committee or was it always and ultimately that stumbling block that Bush intended to use to pull the plug on the nomination. Are we to believe that Miers and her handlers were so inept as to believe that the questionnaire answers submitted to the Committee were genuinely intended to fully respond to its inquiries or were they submitted knowing that because the answers were so obviously superficial and evasive that the questionnaire would be rejected by the committee in order to delay the nomination hearing and buy additional time for W. If all this is true, why would she subject herself to the derision and ridicule directed at her — particularly by the extreme right — over the past several weeks? She is, of course, a good soldier in the Bush army and does appear prepared to throw herself in the way of any political bullet aimed at her client and friend and it is not too hard to imagine that that loyalty would have included enduring those slings and arrows of [out]rageous fortune that have been aimed in her direction since her nomination.
To what end has this all been played out we may never know. The timing of all of this does again raise some index of suspicion that there is a whole other game being played out that we are simply not privy to. Whether this has something or anything to do with Rove, Libby, Hadley et al (whether they are indicted or not there is certainly going to be some criticism leveled in the administration’s direction involving the Plame affair and its manipulation of intelligence to control the debate during the run up to the war) or some gambit involving the nomination itself is not clear and, again, may never be known. Nevertheless, the whole thing seems too absurd, even for W and Big Karl, to be what it appears. As always, ignore the man behind the curtain….
October 27th, 2005 at 12:43 pmYes, the right wingers believe the previous fights have not hurt their cause nearly enough. They are itching for more. They will use their anger and hate.
October 27th, 2005 at 12:44 pmSceptimus,
I would like to know what you love about Bush. You seem passionate. Let’s hear it. Tell us what we’re missing. Clearly now, a big chunk of moderates and conservatives have turned their backs on this administration. Forget the 2006 elections. FOX NEWS can’t rescue your guys from very discontented voters.
Pretending to be godly or fundamentalists or whatever Rove’s people were spinning last time doesn’t work when so many are tired, poor, sick, with less buying power every year… and so on.
And, when I refer to “us”, I mean the real, everyday, patriotic Americans who worry about our loved ones fighting abroad and at home.
911 exploitation has been worn out. Doesn’t sell for Bush anymore.
So… tell us why you love him?
October 27th, 2005 at 1:08 pmAnd so we can anticipate the right’s spin on the withdrawal: It is a sign of strenghth by the administration.
October 27th, 2005 at 1:12 pmBSR
“Be careful what you wish for. President Bush has repeatedly been counted out as weak and ineffective during his presidency, only to score victory after victory in foreign policy, economic policy, and, yes, judicial nominations. The left is going to regret this development in the long run.”
That is the funniest s!t I have read all day. Are you anc CC having a contest to see who can say the stupidest stuff today. You are winning with this one, but CC is pretty good. Keep up the good work. “victory in forgien policy” That is a freaking riot.
October 27th, 2005 at 1:16 pmBe careful what you wish for. President Bush has repeatedly been counted out as weak and ineffective during his presidency, only to score victory after victory in foreign policy, economic policy, and, yes, judicial nominations. The left is going to regret this development in the long run.
Comment by Blue State Red —
LOL! Get your tongue a little farther up my ass why don’t you!
October 27th, 2005 at 1:19 pmSo… tell us why you love him?
Comment by ThomNYC — October 27, 2005 @ 1:08 pm
It’s the flavor!
October 27th, 2005 at 1:20 pmAs much as the “machine” in this administration works things over - this may be a stunt to detract attention from the pending Plame inditements. They are so short-sighted that they just figure they can sort-out the fall-out from this maneuver another day - Scarlett O’Hara mentality - who really care about the future?? not them since their policies are designed to “giveme giveme” today!
October 27th, 2005 at 2:03 pmThey are trying to hurry this up before Frist gets canned. He is in big big trouble - you know, same old story, too greedy. Anyway, if he goes before the nomination gets underway, the “nuclear” option is much thinner.
Boy do they have a lot of finagling to do. Dancing as fast as they can they are.
October 27th, 2005 at 2:31 pmunfortunately, despite this welcome sign of “weakness”, Bush is still the one who has the power to shape the court. Bush is still in the driver’s seat, and as such he has infinitely more power than any opposition figure.
October 27th, 2005 at 6:16 pmI don’t see any weakness. While everyone’s been obsessing over Miers and Plamegate, the GOP has been merrily eliminating huge swathes of government programs, unopposed. Go here.
I wish Bush’s opponents were this weak. We’d be able to run Bush out of town on a rail if we were.
October 27th, 2005 at 6:18 pmWith Meirs’ withdrawal, and Bush’s cave-in on the Davis-Bacon act, the administration is in the weakest position that it has ever been in. Indictments of Rove and Libby, and the naming of Cheney as an unindicted co-conspirator, could be the “knock-out punch” we have all been waiting for.
Hopefully, Bush is TOO weak to appoint a hard core conservative to SCOTUS. This would be the perfect opportunity for the MODERATE REPUBLICANS to take back control of their party from the Religious Right Winger by forcing the President to appoint a moderate to the Court.
October 27th, 2005 at 6:38 pmI’m wondering what White House documents Bush and Meirs do not want the world to see. I bet there are many that would further undermine, if not destroy, the president and his administration.
October 27th, 2005 at 7:27 pmIt’s refreshing to see liberals SO confident!!! (Afterall, it has been AWHILE!!!) A tip: when a majority of Americans think of “security”, “forceful”, and “tough” - they don’t think of wimpy, limp wristed, Democrats or Progrssives!
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