Comments on: Who Was “Under Secretary of State” In June 2003? http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 20:43:57 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: wwallace http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-200473 wwallace Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:09:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-200473 I want to see Bush and Cheeney removed from office NOW. VOTETOIMPEACH.ORG I was soooo wrong, and such an idiot for supporting a murdering administration. I want to extend a personal apology to all on this blog. I want to say those of you that thought I was mighty aphroditie, Northeast Delima, Turk, Joe Sixpack and Jeff Gannon were totally correct. I am only one person, and I have tried to show that there are more than one person that support the Bush administration. I am paid by the administration, and i feel totally dirty and guilty. I want to see Bush and Cheeney removed from office NOW.

VOTETOIMPEACH.ORG

I was soooo wrong, and such an idiot for supporting a murdering administration.

I want to extend a personal apology to all on this blog.

I want to say those of you that thought I was

mighty aphroditie, Northeast Delima, Turk, Joe Sixpack and Jeff Gannon were

totally correct.

I am only one person, and I have tried to show that there are more than one person that support the
Bush administration.

I am paid by the administration, and i feel totally dirty and guilty.

]]> By: JD http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-200350 JD Wed, 02 Nov 2005 19:04:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-200350 (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Bolton) Accusations of perjury On July 28, 2005 it was revealed that a statement made by Bolton on forms submitted to the Senate was false. Bolton indicated that in the prior five years he had not been questioned in any investigation, but in fact he had been interviewed by the State Department Inspector General on July 18, 2003 as part of an investigation into the sources of pre-war claims of weapons of mass destruction evidence in Iraq. After insisting for weeks that Bolton had testified truthfully on the form, the State Department reversed itself stating that Bolton had simply forgotten about the investigation. (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Bolton)
Accusations of perjury
On July 28, 2005 it was revealed that a statement made by Bolton on forms submitted to the Senate was false. Bolton indicated that in the prior five years he had not been questioned in any investigation, but in fact he had been interviewed by the State Department Inspector General on July 18, 2003 as part of an investigation into the sources of pre-war claims of weapons of mass destruction evidence in Iraq. After insisting for weeks that Bolton had testified truthfully on the form, the State Department reversed itself stating that Bolton had simply forgotten about the investigation.

]]> By: JD http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-200341 JD Wed, 02 Nov 2005 18:57:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-200341 #32 Pat can still indict others, but since he said the majority of the work is done, if there are others to be indicted, the indictments have probably already issued, but held in secret. They can use the secret indictment(s) for leverage in the Libby case or in settlement negotiations with "Official A" (cough cough Rove cough), etc. --------------------------------------------- "On or about July 10 or July 11, 2003, LIBBY spoke to a senior official in the White House (“Official A”) who advised LIBBY of a conversation Official A had earlier that week with columnist Robert Novak in which Wilson’s wife was discussed as a CIA employee..." #32 Pat can still indict others, but since he said the majority of the work is done, if there are others to be indicted, the indictments have probably already issued, but held in secret.

They can use the secret indictment(s) for leverage in the Libby case or in settlement negotiations with “Official A” (cough cough Rove cough), etc.

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“On or about July 10 or July 11, 2003, LIBBY spoke to a senior official in the White House (“Official A”) who advised LIBBY of a conversation Official A had earlier that week with columnist Robert Novak in which Wilson’s wife was discussed as a CIA employee…”

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-193614 Marie Sat, 29 Oct 2005 04:04:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-193614 I am in the camp that thinks Bolton is involved - for the same reasons that #10 (Hack) noted, the timing is right, and the Wurmser connection is there too. I am in the camp that thinks Bolton is involved – for the same reasons that #10 (Hack) noted, the timing is right, and the Wurmser connection is there too.

]]> By: Lu http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-193598 Lu Sat, 29 Oct 2005 02:44:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-193598 Is it possible that Fitzgerald could still indict others with another Grand Jury? Lu Is it possible that Fitzgerald could still indict others with another Grand Jury?

Lu

]]> By: watertiger http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-193593 watertiger Sat, 29 Oct 2005 02:15:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-193593 So Bolton's visit to Miller in jail wa purely conjugal in nature? (shudder) So Bolton’s visit to Miller in jail wa purely conjugal in nature?

(shudder)

]]> By: enigma http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-193591 enigma Sat, 29 Oct 2005 02:05:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-193591 But grossman did not visit Judy in jail....and did not , could not have known ceratin WINPAC contacts, or know Wilson's Africa history, or know Valerie's Maiden name- all of that matters into the equation.... But grossman did not visit Judy in jail….and did not , could not have known ceratin WINPAC contacts, or know Wilson’s Africa history, or know Valerie’s Maiden name- all of that matters into the equation….

]]> By: Michael Roston http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-193431 Michael Roston Fri, 28 Oct 2005 22:17:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-193431 It was Grossman, not Bolton, but there's more to the story - why is the Office of the VPOTUS asking an Under Secretary to investigate a CIA operation? Josh Marshall suggested that it was because the Secretary of State (Powell) and the Deputy Secretary of State (Armitage) were out of town. But the day that Libby made the request, and the days that the Under Secretary "orally advised" Libby that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA, Powell was in Washington. See the URL for my blog up above for details and links. It was Grossman, not Bolton, but there’s more to the story – why is the Office of the VPOTUS asking an Under Secretary to investigate a CIA operation?

Josh Marshall suggested that it was because the Secretary of State (Powell) and the Deputy Secretary of State (Armitage) were out of town. But the day that Libby made the request, and the days that the Under Secretary “orally advised” Libby that Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA, Powell was in Washington.

See the URL for my blog up above for details and links.

]]> By: to the right of you http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-193361 to the right of you Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:35:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-193361 my bet is on john bolton. any odds on this one? my bet is on john bolton.

any odds on this one?

]]> By: progressive and proud http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-193341 progressive and proud Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:16:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-193341 I figured long ago Ned Flanders was in-didily-volved. The moustache needs to go down in flames. I wondered about that recess appointment. He knew he had Bush by the short hairs. I figured long ago Ned Flanders was in-didily-volved. The moustache needs to go down in flames. I wondered about that recess appointment. He knew he had Bush by the short hairs.

]]> By: MichaelD http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-193333 MichaelD Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:13:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-193333 What about Karen "Man Hands" Hughes ? Isnt SHE an Undersecy at State ? And she was/is in WHIG too ! What about Karen “Man Hands” Hughes ? Isnt SHE an Undersecy at State ? And she was/is in WHIG too !

]]> By: Anne http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-193332 Anne Fri, 28 Oct 2005 21:11:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-193332 I can't wait to see Bolton frog marched out of the UN. I can’t wait to see Bolton frog marched out of the UN.

]]> By: jbos http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-193253 jbos Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:09:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-193253 God, please make Bolton's mustache come to life and choke him. God, please make Bolton’s mustache come to life and choke him.

]]> By: Ray http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-193242 Ray Fri, 28 Oct 2005 20:04:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-193242 Andrew - are you sure that domestic diplomats don't get immunity? Andrew – are you sure that domestic diplomats don’t get immunity?

]]> By: Andrew http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-193219 Andrew Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:48:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-193219 #18 POW! All up in ya face! PADOW! #18 POW! All up in ya face! PADOW!

]]> By: Andrew http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-193217 Andrew Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:48:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-193217 only foreign diplomats get immunity. he ain't got nuttin! only foreign diplomats get immunity. he ain’t got nuttin!

]]> By: kjlovell http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-193211 kjlovell Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:44:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-193211 dumbya's in your face politics seem to be backfiring! Merry Fitzmas! dumbya’s in your face politics seem to be backfiring!

Merry Fitzmas!

]]> By: Leslie http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-193207 Leslie Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:42:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-193207 And who's "Official A", the person identified in the indictment as having spoken to Novak? Three guesses, and the first two don't count. And who’s “Official A”, the person identified in the indictment as having spoken to Novak? Three guesses, and the first two don’t count.

]]> By: kjlovell http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-193206 kjlovell Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:42:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-193206 Rhymes with Verboten..... I posted my top 10 picks for indictments a few days ago, and guess who was on the list? Bolton. I am seeing that the wing-nuts want to still say a BJ is worse than Treason. They do seem to scream loudly when in danger. Rhymes with Verboten…..

I posted my top 10 picks for indictments a few days ago, and guess who was on the list?

Bolton.

I am seeing that the wing-nuts want to still say a BJ is worse than Treason. They do seem to scream loudly when in danger.

]]> By: BlastFurnace http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/28/undersecretary-of-state/comment-page-1/#comment-193205 BlastFurnace Fri, 28 Oct 2005 19:42:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2357#comment-193205 So is THIS why Dubya was so desperate to get Bolton into the UN, so he couldn't be indicted (owing, perhaps, to diplomatic immunity)? If so, it goes all the way to the President. As always, he can pardon everyone involved, even himself ... so I'm not holding my breath that anyone's going to be held accountable in the long run. So is THIS why Dubya was so desperate to get Bolton into the UN, so he couldn’t be indicted (owing, perhaps, to diplomatic immunity)? If so, it goes all the way to the President. As always, he can pardon everyone involved, even himself … so I’m not holding my breath that anyone’s going to be held accountable in the long run.

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