Samuel Alito’s America
Samuel Alito’s America
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CNN reports that “President Bush will nominate 3rd Circuit Appeals Court Judge Samuel Alito for the U.S. Supreme Court.” Who is Samuel Alito? ThinkProgress has the facts:
ALITO WOULD OVERTURN ROE V. WADE: In his dissenting opinion in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, Alito concurred with the majority in supporting the restrictive abortion-related measures passed by the Pennsylvania legislature in the late 1980’s. Alito went further, however, saying the majority was wrong to strike down a requirement that women notify their spouses before having an abortion. The Supreme Court later rejected Alito’s view, voting to reaffirm Roe v. Wade. [Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v. Casey, 1991]
ALITO WOULD ALLOW RACE-BASED DISCRIMINATION: Alito dissented from a decision in favor of a Marriott Hotel manager who said she had been discriminated against on the basis of race. The majority explained that Alito would have protected racist employers by “immuniz[ing] an employer from the reach of Title VII if the employer’s belief that it had selected the ‘best’ candidate was the result of conscious racial bias.†[Bray v. Marriott Hotels, 1997]
ALITO WOULD ALLOW DISABILITY-BASED DISCRIMINATION: In Nathanson v. Medical College of Pennsylvania, the majority said the standard for proving disability-based discrimination articulated in Alito’s dissent was so restrictive that “few if any…cases would survive summary judgment.†[Nathanson v. Medical College of Pennsylvania, 1991]
ALITO WOULD STRIKE DOWN THE FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE ACT: The Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA) “guarantees most workers up to 12 weeks of unpaid leave to care for a loved one.” The 2003 Supreme Court ruling upholding FMLA [Nevada v. Hibbs, 2003] essentially reversed a 2000 decision by Alito which found that Congress exceeded its power in passing the law. [Chittister v. Department of Community and Economic Development, 2000]
ALITO SUPPORTS UNAUTHORIZED STRIP SEARCHES: In Doe v. Groody, Alito agued that police officers had not violated constitutional rights when they strip searched a mother and her ten-year-old daughter while carrying out a search warrant that authorized only the search of a man and his home. [Doe v. Groody, 2004]
ALITO HOSTILE TOWARD IMMIGRANTS: In two cases involving the deportation of immigrants, the majority twice noted Alito’s disregard of settled law. In Dia v. Ashcroft, the majority opinion states that Alito’s dissent “guts the statutory standard†and “ignores our precedent.†In Ki Se Lee v. Ashcroft, the majority stated Alito’s opinion contradicted “well-recognized rules of statutory construction.†[Dia v. Ashcroft, 2003; Ki Se Lee v. Ashcroft, 2004]
Good. All you weenies need to let this one go. Let the states split. Let there be 2 Americas. Bush legacy.
October 31st, 2005 at 7:01 amBush, already driving this country downhill well past the speed limit, is about to shift into fifth gear.
October 31st, 2005 at 7:09 amLet it go. Overturn Roe v. Wade. Let the country split. Let’s destroy the GOP. All these little laws circumventing Roe are killing democracy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 31st, 2005 at 7:17 amI would rather have a REAL United States with about 28 states than this eternal BS every 4 years. Let the country split!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 31st, 2005 at 7:19 amWell, who didn’t see this coming?! Bush got slapped down the first time for someone who wasn’t overtly conservative and wasn’t expressly in the mold of Scalia. This guys nickname is “Scalito” for God’s sake. He was bound to fold under pressure from his far-right base and appoint someone who has proved in his track record that he would strike down Roe. Mark my words, you’ll have the right-wing talking heads salivating over this guy by 10 A.M. Monday.
October 31st, 2005 at 7:19 amI’ll believe the nomination when I see it. No one expected John Roberts and everyone was saying it was someoneelse. Sometimes the whitehouse offers disinformation.
October 31st, 2005 at 7:20 amStrike down the Family and Medical Leave Act? He can’t be serious.
October 31st, 2005 at 7:21 amDisinformation from the WH…you think.
October 31st, 2005 at 7:24 amWell we know who runs this Country,,,,Tony Perkins,James Dobson,Pat Robertson,Jerry Falwell, Southern Baptist Convention and the Pentecostal’s.
Miers would’ve been a much better on I think she would’ve been a swing vote….
Wonder if this was a setup by bush by using Miers as a red herring then giving us a much more hard liner?
October 31st, 2005 at 7:33 amIf roe v. wade is overturned, no more republicans… sounds good to me.
October 31st, 2005 at 7:37 amHarriet Miers was an obvious set-up, a straw woman to usher in a real sonuvabitch.
October 31st, 2005 at 7:39 am3 Catholics on the Supreme Court? Call The Know-Nothings… Now!
October 31st, 2005 at 7:41 amAverage TV Viewer- With ya all the way. Hey, if they want an Ayatollah regieme they can have it! And the rest of us can move on creating a more perfect union.
Let e’m kill themselves off!
October 31st, 2005 at 7:41 amWe will be going backwords to the 1950’s with this guy. I knew he was up to something when he nominate Miers and know this guy. A woman should been nominate.
October 31st, 2005 at 7:42 amMakes ya wonder if the Harriet Meirs’ thing was planned all along. Look at the timing, the Administration knew the Fitz. case would have a deadline, by nominating Meirs they got 3 birds in the bag; 1) Nominate a woman, 2) Find out exactly what support the base was going to provide and 3) Blow smoke over the pesky little Scooter Leeky debacle and Wallah! GW rises to the top again. Very Rovenesque. Watch the Forged Document thing from the Italian Secret service thing bubble up next. Connections to Wolfowitz very scary, here is a great link on this and check out the date of his article. Enjoy. http://www.juancole.com/2004/08/pentagonisrael-spying-case-expands.html
October 31st, 2005 at 7:44 amJust in time for Halloween, the White House presents the liberals with their latest bogeyman: Judge Alito….
The demonization has begun already.
I predict new heights of apoplexy on the Left…
October 31st, 2005 at 7:50 amScalito?
October 31st, 2005 at 7:53 amI’m with Average TV Viewer.
Since the “blue” states have all the universities, key industries, and money, secession would mean that the “red” states would instantly become the third world country they really are. California and New England alone control 90% of the shipping ports. We can join a common currency with Canada and leave them with the bankrupt US Treasury.
October 31st, 2005 at 7:54 amYeah, let’s leave the Red states to go back to the Stone Age of Bush World. I’d love to join the Blue states to Canada or some other civilized country!
October 31st, 2005 at 7:59 amA man has no right to tell a woman to have this baby. The RIGHT WING RELIGIOUS NUTS are not going to raise this child. Most of American do not want Roe v Wade over turned.
October 31st, 2005 at 7:59 amI cringe every time the talking repub heads say there are comsequences to elections,yeah we got screwed from them stealing the election and we get screwedwith these hacks,what a crock!
October 31st, 2005 at 8:00 amI guess they had to do something to get our attention away from their CORRUPTION.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:04 amThese 28 United States…
YOU BET.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:07 amI hope they get a war over Alito’s nomination by the democracts who have been all but opposition in all circumstances.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:09 amMary Poppin,
Roe is not strong enough to prevent abuse by the right.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:10 amPeople don’t support Roe. They support rights. There is a better way: States. The right keep saying let’s have the discussion at the state level. LET’S DO IT. NOW.
Great summary of his stance on important issues! Can you make it e-mailable?
October 31st, 2005 at 8:10 amSkull and Bones Alito is the fight we on the left want with a weakened Bush.
Bring it on!
October 31st, 2005 at 8:13 am.
Average, I agree. Let the states decide. Too much power concentrated at the federal level now.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:16 am“Stone Age” (comment by K) discredits an era of real progress. What we have here in “Good bless America” is re-/retro-gression.
Not being a religious nut case, I’ve still wondered about those seven deadly sins…wasn’t one of them “pride” (especially “false pride,” something altogether common inside the Beltway)? Somehow the poor just don’t get beyond the convenience of a lost-in-a-flood video shot (a REAL Christian would have at least mercy on the poor instead of plundering them to further enrich the already-wealthy).
The reason we’re “blue” states is we’ve got the edu-base of folks who have thought through the issues and arrived at intelligent conclusions; “red” states voters are scared shitless they’ll have a gay couple living next door. False pride aside, I’m humbly proud to be part of the blue-man/woman group.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:16 amState sponsored religious displays don’t constitute a state sponsorship of religion?
This guy’s got some ’splanin to do.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:19 am[...] ThinkProgress has decided that Alito is the anti-christ. That was quick, almost like they had the copy typed and ready to go… [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 8:19 am#32
He has been discussed as a potential nominee for years. They’d be idiots to not know about him.
Apparently the fact that someone would know about federal judges surprises you, but not everyone is a dumb as you think.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:20 amO’Connor has said she would stay until another justice is confirmed. Fine, let her stay or let her go. This country will survive without nine justices – we have many times before. The Democrats should come out and say that this President is under so much scrutiny and has so many scandals that the American People do not trust him to appoint anyone for a life term. If only the Democrats were truly an opposition party we might be able to survive the Bush Nightmare. I fear they are not.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:25 am…and still the Democrats will confirm him.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:26 amThank you Democrats for giving us a Bush Supreme Court.
But only the most partisan zealot (much like Christian Majority group-think) will still blame the Greens or Nader or the man in the moon, anyone other than themselves.
Myles
[...] Think Progress has more. [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 8:26 amI can only hope a few moderate Republicans will join a unified Democratic opposition to this nomination. After the past few months, From Katrina on, maybe enough eyes have been opened.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:26 amLet the Supreme Court overturn Roe V. Wade and with it the Griswold decision which made it legal for women to obtain and use artificial birth control methods (read birth control pills). Let them roll back anti-discrimination laws, affirmative action, elliminate Medicaid (but never Medicare too many rich people). Let the Supreme Court and this guy take it all away. I am tired of fighting for the rights of people who don’t care or even worse voted for Ronald in ‘80, dad in ‘88 and now this guy. Quite frankly the people that will be most affected by these possible rulings will not be those of us who are reading this website. They are the poor souls out there toiling away at their nonunion wage job. But let it be. This is what the American voter went to the polls and decided they wanted; therefore this is what they get. There should be no surprises and quite frankly I would love to see all of the above go down the drain. It can’t happen soon enough. Then this nation of apathetic individuals might wake up and wonder what happened while they were sleeping. Women can wake up and find out their reproductive choices have been eliminated. Homosexuals, blacks, poor and undereducated can find that they have NO access to healthcare. In the meantime, inflation is creeping up, the housing market will slow, interest rates are going to be raised again and heating bills will soar. Enjoy.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:27 amNow is the time to confront the issue of who really just interprets the constitution and who wants to legislate from the bench. The so-called conservatives have successfully programmed the public on this as they have on turning the word LIBERAL into something bad. Thought reform works unfortunately as the reality of short attention span theatre is proven over and over.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:29 amYep, Miers was a willing “straw man”, with this born, bred, and programmed injustice waiting in the wings to follow his fellow Stepford Judge Roberts onto the golden bench. I knew all that instantaneous wing-nut blogger uproar over Harriet was a bunch of psi-ops malarkey – those guys are constitutionally incapable of breaking ranks with George W. Christ.
Make no mistake, Roberts and Alia are carefully cultivated dauphins prepared from youth by the powerful few who think it is their birthright to own us all. Despite the troubles the ass-puppet Bush administration appear to be having right now, the forces of hereditary fortune and ancient byzantine conspiracy are very close to absolute victory. Let’s f**k’em up!
October 31st, 2005 at 8:30 amHERE IT IS: THE FOURTH REICH!
October 31st, 2005 at 8:35 amAMERIKA THE LAND OF THE FURHER
Grandma, I am with you!
I am also tired of fighting for the rights of people who don’t go to the polls, or vote Repug because they don’t like gay people.
Do they hate gay people more than they love their kids? Guess so. F-em all.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:35 amWould love to hear someone ask the question, “Mr. Alito, what makes Harriet Miers a better judge than you, considering that Bush said she was the best candidate?”
October 31st, 2005 at 8:36 amMyles
People don’t support Roe.
About 55% do.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:37 amGrandmother, as another Grandmother I agree with you completely. I am so tired of the whole thing. My worries about reproductive rights are long behind me. Let this generation put down their cell phones, turn off Desperate Housewives and realize that their political apathy will destroy the rights that a previous generation fought for. I will believe that the Democratic Party fights against this narrow little man when I see it.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:38 amDon’t you love how right-wing trollies like “tomaig” whine and whimper when we get the facts out on Küche-Kirche-Kinder Kandidates like Benito Scalito here?
October 31st, 2005 at 8:40 amBush is a total hypocrite because he had a girlfriend that had an abortion in the 1970’s.
I still don’t understand that these RIGHT WING RELIGIOUS NUTS say they are born again christian. What does this means?
October 31st, 2005 at 8:41 am[...] Yeah, Democrats are gearing up for battle in ways that would make Harriet Miers blush: “ALITO WOULD OVERTURN ROE V. WADE, ALITO WOULD ALLOW RACE-BASED DISCRIMINATION, ALITO WOULD ALLOW DISABILITY-BASED DISCRIMINATION, ALITO WOULD STRIKE DOWN THE FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE ACT, ALITO SUPPORTS UNAUTHORIZED STRIP SEARCHES, ALITO HOSTILE TOWARD IMMIGRANTS.” [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 8:41 amBush is a total hypocrite because he had a girlfriend that had an abortion in the 1970’s.
Source!?
October 31st, 2005 at 8:42 amOne can only surmise that our half-shaved chimpanzee of a president’s “dry drunk” dyslexia exculpated the word filibuster from his idiot-savant lexicon.
Not that it makes a jot of different. The group of 14 will have to allow a democratic fili on this one. You don’t get much more extreme than this guy.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:42 amI am a Grandma and I totally disagree with you. I guess you are not worried about your children and grandchildren. You are totally disguessing.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:46 amIt is so typical of the Left to cry crocodile tears on the one hand (Miers), then cry “Foul!” on the other (Alito). I’m looking forward to this, left wing smears and all. In the end, there will be at least one more conservative justice on the Court, and the era of federal judges making up the law as they prefer it to be – rather than applying the law as it is – will be over.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:46 amYou guys are the biggest babies ever! It’s just a new nominee and you’re crapping yourselves before the Repooblicans really bring the pain. As a Repooblican myself I often sit back with an expensive non-Cuban cigar and imagine the ideal world of colored servitude, slapping my wife in public, and not having to beat up homosexuals because they stayed in the closet. What’s even more ridiculous is that I have to append that comment with a clarification that I’m joking. Ridiculous.
I hate to ask this, but I must. Have you all ever met a conservative? I’m not talking about online blogoworld, but in real life. I hear they eat minorities for breakfast and laugh whenever a paraplegic is denied the sweet life-giving nectar of embryonic stem cells. I even heard that Katrina was caused by Bush’s negligence towards the environment. It’s all true!
October 31st, 2005 at 8:47 amBRING THIS FIGHT ON. You will NOT win. You smear merchants finally got what was coming to you.
Now, you will have to divide you’re time by trying to impeach Bush and tear down Alito. Good luck, you brownshirts. You will certainly need it.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:47 amMary Poppin – the requirement that women notify their husbands before having an abortion didn’t let the man decide, and it had safeguards in place to allow a woman to avoid telling a guy that would beat her up, etc. The husband didn’t get to make the decision, but the requirement would have been that the wife provide an unnotarized account that she told her husband…so you clearly don’t have a real basis for your comment.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:48 amAverage TV Viewer. I take it that you would like the red and blue states to split. You also think that the the red states represent the “Real” America. That would suit me fine as the red states couldn’t survive with out being on the federal tit. Yes most of the matcho red staters couldn’t colect a paycheck if they didn’t get some kind of federal subsidy that comes from blue state taxpayers. Good Bye, Dry up and blow away!
October 31st, 2005 at 8:54 am52,53,54
Enjoy this last desperate gasp of an imploding presidency. It won’t succeed and it won’t keep Bush and Cheney out of the slammer where those criminal war mongers belong.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:54 amThe word liberal is not a dirty word it means generous, as in care for the poor and elderly etc as Jesus comanded us. The word conservite means stingy as in tax cuts for the greedy and forget the helpless as Jesus said it would be easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the gates of heaven. I guess all those right wing christians thought Jesus did not really mean it or rhey have never read the Bible.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:56 am#55 I am not talking about her husband. She has a right to decide if she wants this baby. You are not the one having this baby. I do have a real basis for my comment. You are totally wrong. Most of the women having abortions are not married. It could be for health reasons or if she was raped. You have no right because you are a man.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:59 am… may i suggest you not contribute any more of your hard earned money to the Dems until they actually have stood up for the above mentioned liberties of the People.
… tell ‘em “i will believe it when i see it”, then begin contributing again. Money talks… b.s. we’ve had enough of!
Dave
October 31st, 2005 at 8:59 amAnother grandma weighing in. I also am tired of fighting, but the MSM are really in the pocket of the GOP. I had to turn off TV just now. All right wing, all the time, no matter what channel. Couric’s interview with Joe Wilson was abominable. All of the Reupuglican talking points brought up loud and clear. How can any non thinker make intelligent choices when this is what they hear day in and day out? Many of the poor are too busy working 2 or three jobs just to make ends meet. They only have time for sound bites.
Until the Dems learn how to shout through the the Republican noise machine, I don’t see how we win back the congress or the presidency.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:00 ama neocon’s wet dream…
October 31st, 2005 at 9:01 amRed states, Blue states, seems that all are unwilling to change their fates……
October 31st, 2005 at 9:04 amRoe vs. Wade, corporate corruption, coming depression in the USA……
Let the states decide? Now I am laughing my a** off… As if the federal government would let them…. If the states could decide themselves, Marijuana would be legal, just a small minor example… National Guards troops would not be Iraq as they actually belong to the state and not the federal government or so it is my understanding anyway….. Look at the facist government you have and dream of your freedoms that you no longer can claim and shred your Constitution and Bill of Rights as they will be, actually are, already moot…. They cann’t let the states do anything…. And last time I checked anyway, the elections were rigged and like any crooked game, the house won and we, the people, lost….. If that is the case, we don’t know whom is red and whom is blue and the states are not ALL red or ALL blue but purple and how do you unmix mixed colors?
Grandmother–
October 31st, 2005 at 9:06 amThe “let ‘em get what they deserve” isn’t fair, certainly not to African-Americans. They voted 90% for Kerry. Also gays, 75% for Kerry. Only 51% of Americans voted for Bush; let’s work on defending the 49% who didn’t.
Grandma–you’re blaming the victim. Why do you think gays, minorities and women are apathetic and don’t vote, or vote republican?
October 31st, 2005 at 9:06 amIt’s true that poor white males vote republican–it’s also true that the Republican Party has arranged for their friends to count the vote, that there is strong evidence that Gore and Kerry won the last two elections, and that the powers at the top of the Democratic Party have been able to keep liberals out of the contention so that voters have no real choices.
As for “let the red states go,” that’s nothing but a fantasy–appealing, but it can’t really happen. You’re forgetting the other half of the republicans’ unnatural marriage—they represent those religious- right red-state types, but they also represent the rich and the corporations, who are not about to allow the strongest parts of the US go join Canada.
i am a long time naturalize citisen , i am befundled by my observation of children of immigrants from totalitarian countries .Perhaps it is a crude generalisation , i found them hard nose and strict constructionist when it comes to the law ,a la Scollia .This appointment does not bode well for those of us who hope for the country to find a common voice on the subject of women’s right to choose .Of women’s freedom . The idea that a woman needs her husband’s permission is so primitive . Where is the American experience in these newly citizens ?
October 31st, 2005 at 9:07 amIn the end, there will be at least one more conservative justice on the Court, and the era of federal judges making up the law as they prefer it to be – rather than applying the law as it is – will be over.
Comment by Blue State Red — October 31, 2005 @ 8:46 am
… except for the idiot in Virginia, which of your treasonous ReThuglicans have actually called for an Amendment to the Constitution giving Jerry F. or Sen Frist the call on who gets to choose being a parent and who doesn’t??
Shouldn’t we stop all women in the airports to check if they are pregnant before going over seas, then recheck when they return??
… that would surely be a problem for the Twins, unless they volunteer for service in Iraq… then i’ll give ‘em a pass.
Loony wingnuts… and i was raised by ‘em!!
October 31st, 2005 at 9:08 amRadical change to the electoral system to eliminate the role of money (equating campaign contributions with “free speech”), is the main means
October 31st, 2005 at 9:08 amof eliminating this endemic corruption and tyranny of the inferior. The problem of unscrupulous, intellectually inferior people ruling society in both government and business, is traceable to the electoral system in which money talks and ethical people walk. And societally speaking, this mentality of the administration precisely reflects the hierarchy of inferior administrators/ceo’s ruling their mental and moral superiors, to be consistent with what has happened throughout corporations and all government agencies?
Patriotic? Democratic? All you idiots who say “let the country split” don’t realize that the country is not split at all. You simply don’t want to live in a democracy. You are clearly in the minority, Bush didn’t win against Gore and there was lots of cheating in 2004. We live with it because this is our country. The religeous zelotry that you ultra conservative numbbrains weild lowers you to lieing, cheating and creates a general malaise that surrounds your trailer home. Self rightouse libertines! If you don’t like democracy (what this country stands for!) get out, go make your own country full of toothless, beer guzzeling, tatooed, white trash, homophobic, sexist, flatulent churls. Idiots.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:12 amOverturning Roe v. Wade would be the best thing that ever happened to the Democratic Party in the last 30 years. REpublicans cannot run on “smear the queer” foreever.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:15 amGreg – 57% of the country voted against Clinton when he nominated an ACLU lawyer and she was confirmed unanimously. Nice talking point – shot down!
October 31st, 2005 at 9:15 amI have to wonder if the TP site’s writers have something similar to that file of pre-done obituaries any news organization keeps for when famous people die.
In other words, I’m curious how many potential SCOTUS nominees TP has similar posts written for, and what the posts say.
This isn’t intended as a complaint or accusation; it’s just that procedural stuff like this fascinates me. So keep those files around, for an interesting “what if?” piece a decade or more down the road.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:16 amAndrew – yes, I have met actual conservatives in real life. Some of my best friends are conservative and since I’m black, a woman, and homosexual I realize that they’re not evil people out to destroy me. But then again they don’t equate conservatism with forcing everyone into a pre-defined mold.
You say liberals paint conservatives in unflattering colors? How about the colors conservatives paint liberals in? It goes both ways Andrew. To think it doesn’t is just putting the blinders on.
What gets me is the conservatives that aren’t lunatics supporting the ones that clearly have some serious social agendas on their plates and show NO signs of conservatism in the areas that really matter to most conservatives. Do my friends care if gays can marry? No, not really. They’re intelligent enough to realize that is not a big deal and it’s just a scare tactic used by the Republicans to get less intelligent people to vote for them. But hey, they DO care that this government has no fiscal responsibility and is all about big government and big spending. A real conservative would say let the states decide these social issues. Don’t have the government trying to control all these things. Yet the so-called conservatives in power now are all about the federal government dictating people’s lives. They want an amendement to the constitution to ban gay marriage. They want the supreme court to overturn roe v. wade and ban abortion across the board. Etc. Etc.
There’s a difference between conservative and backwards. The republican party is backwards. They use fear and deception to acquire votes and it works beautifully because most americans don’t bother to actually think. They just react.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:18 amNED’s right. It’s getting to be a full-time job trying to prevent conservatives from hurting themselves and rooting against their own self-interests. It’s like having a retarded sibling who keeps eating dirt and shitting in his own hat.
Bobo Erectus is its own worst enemy. We should let them have Alito, just to see the look on their faces when he starts running them through the shredder along with the rest of us.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:21 amFillibuster is necessary here. Let’s be smart about it though. Educate the moderate republicans, get enough of them to join our side. Take back the house 2006. The main point is here, no one really likes abortion. I know of no one who has got preggers just to have one. We need to put it back in the right wingers face and say “Who of you, besides John McCain has adopted a baby?” Most will be surprised to hear this. Then we can tell the story of knot so honest georgekarl using this info against John McCain.
Keep asking them how many babies they’ve adopted. Keep asking them who’s paying for them (taxcut taxcut taxcut). The best figures I’ve found say there’s half a million kids who are-unadoptable and just sit and wait to turn 18 and go to the welfare rolls. Many Thousands more not adopted. I wonder if the Bush family with all its wealth has adopted anyone.
Let’s tell the end of the story. Tell the republicans (who are the wealthiest among us) to put up or shut up. Show us your program for all of the new babies that will be in our midst. Let them try to tell us the churches wil handle this, it’s a private thing……We can say..”Show us the MONEY”…..put the pressure back in their court. Stand up, Grow some balls, call at least weekly to reps in congress. Write letters, go to events.
God Bless all of us and let’s get to work
October 31st, 2005 at 9:22 amThis means WAR!
October 31st, 2005 at 9:24 amThe fool at the beginning calling us weenies and let there be 2 Americas? Is he kidding? Blue America has propped up Red American FOREVER!
October 31st, 2005 at 9:24 amwhy don’t you folks win an election sometime? then you’ll get to nominate the judges.
the fact is, conservatives own the senate and both houses, that being the case, they get to pick who sits on the bench.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:25 amI’m with Average TV Viewer. Most people are pro choice but the republican party has been hijacked by a bunch of radical christians. These extremists have only one mission and that is saving fetuses and killing criminals and making sure men don’t fornicate. It is obvious they do not want a United States. I say let them have it. Those like Santorum will be shown for their extreme views or some can choose to live in the 50s where men just didn’t tell they were gay and abortions were for the rich.
Funny NeD, you are in a state that overwhelmingly gives its citizens the rights they deserve. Will you move to one of these states that you are advocating? I will, of course, move back to NY or Boston as I will never live in a state that would make a battered wife tell her husband she is aborting his fetus.
Like I say, people are mostly pro choice. It will take a slap in the face, such as Shaivo when the government is right in their bedroom, for the too busy to care about politics and read the news worker to see what is happening to them as individuals. We are not learning from our past and are doomed to repeat. That’s okay, I’m up for the real fight years away.
Let this court go the way of the Vatican and then, only then, will people start to actually see themselves inside the courts. Right now, most just see a bunch of robes. And the radicals only see dead fetuses and weird man on man sex. Let the wheels cog once again, I am free to move to one of the GREAT 28.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:27 amthe man is eminently qualified… confirm him…….i read the comments here and it makes me tremble for this once great country.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:28 amScalito is for cutting the balls off a rapist and shoving them down his throat on the public square, unless the rapist is a woman, in which case, her genitalia are to throughly burnt off with a hot iron. You Liberal rape fiends beware!
October 31st, 2005 at 9:28 am#75 Jeffko I agree with you totally. Great Post!!!! Lets have all the Republicans that want Roe reversed adopt these babies. Right on!!!!
October 31st, 2005 at 9:30 am[...] Meanwhile, the freakout starts at Think Progress with these two posts. [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 9:30 amLast I checked, the normal population of the rest-of-the-universe-outside-the-USA has been at WAR with the loonie repugnicant right since that arrogant spur clanking little dunce sauntered his way into the Whitehouse and brought his maggot-in-chief with him.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:33 amBring it on right wing faggots. Civil WAR NOW.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:36 am#49, In reply to your question on Bush’s girlfriend of the past, I hope this link works:
October 31st, 2005 at 9:36 amhttp://archive.democrats.com/display.cfm?id=159
It’s time for 2 Americas.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:37 amwhy don’t you folks win an election sometime? then you’ll get to nominate the judges.
As soon as we have honest counting again, we will.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:37 amI bethcha that this guy is also gonna try to criminalize my jacking off! I betcha he’ll try, and that’s where I draw the line! Bring it on!. Let’s have the debate. Pro-jack off states vs. the anti-jack offs! This is WAR!
October 31st, 2005 at 9:38 am“Great 28″-I like that.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:38 amThis is a good thing. Theocracy Rule. Jeb and Martial Law in 2008. Overturn Roe Vs. Wade and it suddenly becomes a non-issue and no more money can be raised by the Rethuglican party on this one issue alone.
The West Coast, East Coast and Great Lakes States need to sever all ties with the Red states. Isolate them economically and cut them off from the dole.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:39 am#78 — joshua, that’s a great idea! And since it’s your suggestion, I take it we can count on your vote?
October 31st, 2005 at 9:39 amGreat summary of his stance on important issues! Can you make it e-mailable?
It already is. You can:
A) Email out the link:
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/31/samuel-alitos-america/
or
B) Cut and paste the text into an email. You may need to replace the “smart” quote marks and apostrophes with normal ASCII ones so they don’t show up as blobs to some recipients.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:40 amAnyone that wants a civil war right now, why don’t you move to Canada so that you can have your national health, gay marriages and the like. Good riddence!
October 31st, 2005 at 9:40 amThey can have their 22 state theocracy where treason is acceptable. LET THEM EAT THEMSELVES. They use liberal sentiment to fuel the division. They don’t want Roe overturned. They want divisiveness. It’s the only thing that makes them strong.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:42 amStop the madness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Listen everyone. This is exactly what Rove planned. Eveything about it smells of his slimy work. The Bush administration knew they were going to have a hard time pushing a hardline conservative Justice. So they presented Miers as a sacrificial lamb. Knowing how the Bush White House works, I’ll bet Miers didn’t even know her fate. But she was LOYAL to Bush and went along. Anyway, now Bush has his nomination to placate the Republican’s extreme religious base. Rove and Bush knew they were going to take a hit with the Miers nomination but knew that after her they could then slip in ANYONE they wanted. After all, their arguments will now be… “You just don’t like anyone Bush nominates” or “You just want Bush to nominate someone the left wants.” All really sick and totally in oposition to most of America. At least I have the satisfaction of knowing that I voted for Kerry and Gore. God help us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 31st, 2005 at 9:42 am2Americas——-1 for real American Patriots
October 31st, 2005 at 9:42 amThe other,those who answer to a higher power(what a joke) and want to rule me and my children. NEVER
Because this is my country you treasonous piece of shit, Randy.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:42 amSome of these conclusions are wacky. He would overturn Roe v. Wade because he thought, 14 years ago, that a spousal notification provision — supported by Pennsylvania’s Democratic governor, mind you — was constitutional? He could not possibly have known that the Court would take it up as their reevaluation of Roe. I’m not saying he won’t overturn Roe, but this is pretty scant evidence to suggest it.
Some of these other accusations border on libel. “Alito supports unauthorized strip searches”? No, Alito thinks they’re constitutional. If you’re going to equate thinking something’s right and thinking it’s constitutional, you might as well just get it over with and announce you’re all crits.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:43 amAtilla the Hun would be proud of this nomination. If this
October 31st, 2005 at 9:45 amScAlito is confirmed expect the clock to be turned back to the dark ages. Always knew that this is what Bush planned from the beginnning with his choice of Miers.If the Dems do not fight this one we will never see daylight savings again.
The Great 28.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:45 amI would like to know his position on fellatio? A senator must ask him whether he would vote for upholding a federal law banning the time honoured practice of fellatio. And good-bye internet porn will be a start of another crusade. Praise the Law!
October 31st, 2005 at 9:45 amDid you hear anyone talking about civil war during the Clinton years? No. Do you really think that you could get enought support for a civil war? Your side can’t put together enough support for an anti-war rally even with Mother Sheenan’s prescence. Where is she by the way? You need to wake up to reality and start taking your medication again.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:47 amDavid,
October 31st, 2005 at 9:47 amThis is all to overshadow treason. But it’s all one in the same. This gov’t is headed to the toilet.
LMAO! The lefties woke up on Fitzmas morning and found out that Santa left them Scalito!
Bravo Zulu, Mr. President – this is an excellent nomination of an imminently qualified jurist who, by the way, was confirmed UNANIMOUSLY (yeah, even Ted Kennedy voted for him) when Bush 41 nominated him to the appeals court.
Let the liberals whine. Let them whimper. Let them cry. Let them piss and moan. We don’t care, because for those of us who have wanted to see judicial restraint restored to SOCTUS for the last 30 years we will NOT back down. Liberals will, because they are cowards. They already talking about (LOL) seceding – let them. Good riddance.
It’s morning in America.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:47 amOVERTURN ROE.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:48 amThe Great 28.
This is all about power. Bushie is a dictator. Lets hope that Martial Law is not put into affect by Old Bushie. This would be pretty scary.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:49 amPP – if you want a culture war, you’ll get it. NY and DC should not be dictating social policy to the rest of the country, especially when that includes forcing states to allow partial birth abortion. Secondly, the Supreme Court favors free speech for those who are against American values, not for.
If you want a fight over this – BRING it on. You have no idea what you are up against. This is not 1987 – the country is more conservative and conservatives have no problem getting in the mud with the like of Ralph Neas and Nan Aron. We will destroy and enjoy it if you mistreat Judge Alito.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:49 am[...] UPDATE: This is just wonderful: ALITO WOULD OVERTURN ROE V. WADE: In his dissenting opinion in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, Alito concurred with the majority in supporting the restrictive abortion-related measures passed by the Pennsylvania legislature in the late 1980’s. Alito went further, however, saying the majority was wrong to strike down a requirement that women notify their spouses before having an abortion. The Supreme Court later rejected Alito’s view, voting to reaffirm Roe v. Wade. [Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v. Casey, 1991 [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 9:49 amIt won’t be blue states leaving you moron.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:49 amRoe vs. Wade = the carrot on the stick. It would be disasterous for the repugs to lose that. I’m in MA and would be unaffected by it. Let the right-wingers see what over-tuning it is REALLY about. It ain’t what they think it is!
October 31st, 2005 at 9:50 amThe democrats in this country better wake up now! We must unite in doing whatever is necessary to stop this GOP machine who are destroying our country one step at a time. Our elections must become clean in every state. Dioboldt must be ousted as they are in the pockets of the GOP and will stop at nothing in every election to keep their mandate. America, WAKE UP, WE ARE LOSING THE BATTLE BOTH HERE AND IN THE EYES OF THE WORLD. Impeach the entire administration and do it by standing up and being heard.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:51 am70% support Roe.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:51 amAlito, “pie face”, supports having first crack with the bride on the wedding night, for all right wing CEOs.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:51 amNortheast, AMEN, brother – the libs think they can get by with another Borking…ain’t gonna happen.
If the whining dems in the senate need the nuclear option to shut them up, then so be it.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:53 amWith all the comparisons to Scalia, I have a question that has nothing to do with ideology:
If Alito had been on a hunting trip* with a major player in an organization, and that organization became a party in a case that came before his court, would Alito recuse himself?
* or similar semi-unofficial bonding exercise
October 31st, 2005 at 9:53 am#118
Abe Fortas resigned when his connections to those with business before the court became known, so I would say YES!
October 31st, 2005 at 9:54 amCulture War Right Wing Cowardly Fags
vs
THE American Patriot
YOU LOSE big time NE bone smuggler
October 31st, 2005 at 9:55 am#117, obviously. Sorry for the error.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:55 amIt looks like everyone got what they deserved on Fitzmas! (Except for Libby of course)
October 31st, 2005 at 9:55 amScared gop aint gonna support this clown.
ITS OVER FOR THE BUSH WH!
BUSH IS WEAK!
“A nomination out of weakness”, “to stop the bleeding of the gop”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 31st, 2005 at 9:57 am“Roe vs. Wade = the carrot on the stick. It would be disasterous for the repugs to lose that. I’m in MA and would be unaffected by it. Let the right-wingers see what over-tuning it is REALLY about. It ain’t what they think it is!”
Kitebro, most of us who are Constitutional originalists do NOT oppose abortion on moral or religious grounds – we oppose it because it is STUNNINGLY BAD LAW. It was an example of arrogant, judicial activism. SCOTUS is supposed to INTERPRET law, not WRITE law. If they found the abortion law in Texas to be unConstitutional, then SAY SO, and let the state legislators write a new law. That’s the way it is SUPPOSED to work.
I for one am frankly sick and tired of 9 unelected black robes deciding for me what I can and can’t do. The country was never intended to be a judiciocracy. I vote for people who I think represent me, and those people in turn are tasked with legislating – it is not the place of SCOTUS to inject itself into the legislative process, but that’s exactly what they’ve been doing for 30+ years.
Thank you, Mr. President, for this wonderful nomination – it is a step towards returning America to Americans, and for that, I am grateful.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:00 amFitzmas gifts are the gifts that keep giving, more indictments to come RANDY the fag.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:01 amRandy will soon have nothing left to fight for. There will be two different countries. They don’t care for bipartisanship, that was only talk to sway the middle. And there was such hubbub about JFK being a Catholic and now we have a Catholic Supreme Court.
There will always be a progressive America and that is where I will pay my tax dollars. The Supreme Court will be, pardon the pun, MOOT. States will have to start seriously thinking about themselves and who they want to be.
I am not for ruining the tradition of the filibuster. The radicals want it gone, but can’t seem to see a future where they will need it. I need for us to be forward-thinking and the state that provides that will be mine. Back to a form of segregation. At least we know where the intelligencia will be. I think maybe that’s the better route anyway. I prefer an intellectual conversation as opposed to ‘me no kill no babies.’ Hell, I’m getting sick of seeing all of the bad hair here in TN already.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:01 amThis man will not be confirmed because Old Bushie and Cheney are going to be impeached before 2008.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:01 amI would love to split the country in half but I have a better idea all of you libs would be better off moving to Canada as was suggested in this silly ass thread..Thank you for you lack of support have a good day
October 31st, 2005 at 10:01 amAll the strategies and ideas to overcome these Washington criminals is to no avail for several reasons:
The Dems can’t win any election when every election is now fixed by paperless voting. Nothing can overcome fixed elections and you don’t hear the party leaders talking about this. They are hopeless and clueless.
The Dems don’t stand up for principles that most Americans share, don’t have no real candidates, currently have no real stated ideology, have a previously voter-rejected leader (Dean), and the party is mistakenly moving to the left of the majority of the country instead of toward the center as it did with Clinton.
As a Democrat, I feel like my party has already blown any opportunity to oust these GOP criminals because of the fore-mentioned reasons. It may not be too late to change things but I suspect that it is. Only revolution can help us now.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:02 amRandy – apparently there were a LOT of naughty liberals, because on Fitzmas morning, they found Scalito in their stockings! LOL!
October 31st, 2005 at 10:03 am… Dont’t worry , dear ones , there’s something rattlin’ in Scare-Alitos closet , and we’ll get to it , soon enough ! And the neocons are DESPERATE (!) to distract us from that word we’re using to describe their adSINastration : TRAITORS !!! No matter where you go , neoconnies , THAT word WILL follow you ALL ! … ;)
October 31st, 2005 at 10:03 am“…RANDY the fag.”
Janice, what’s with the homophobia?
October 31st, 2005 at 10:04 amC’mon, anyone who believes that states would be left to “decide for themselves” after Roe is overturned is fooling themselves. The Repugs don’t really give a Sh#t about states rights. These are the people who send an army of lawyers from halfway across the country because some gay couple somewhere in the middle of the night might be allowed to marry. Does anyone really believe they will allow the blue states to have legal abortions while the red do not? Please. What they want is precisely what they demonize. They want a conservative activist judge who will legislate their culture war from the bench. Period. Watch what people do, never what they say.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:05 amBush nominates Alito: Moonbat Meltdown Time!!!
President Bush just nominated Samuel Alito for Associate Justice to the Supreme Court.
The Supreme Court Nomination Blog has an Excellent bio.
Michelle Malkin and Hugh Hewitt agree: It’s time for dancin’.
ConfirmThem.com has a lot of …
October 31st, 2005 at 10:06 am“This man will not be confirmed because Old Bushie and Cheney are going to be impeached before 2008.”
Mary, what are you smoking and can I have some?
October 31st, 2005 at 10:06 amIf Alito is confirmed, he will be the 4th Roman Catholic on the Court, joining Scalia, Kennedy, and Thomas. As a pro-life Democrat, he’s be a 2-fer: Roe will be overturned and the Republican Party will hemorrhage female voters. That’s great news. And, by the way, Americans will never give up abortion. It doesn’t matter what some of us think. Roe v. Wade has become nothing more than a free issue for the Republicans. If they flip it, it is the end of them…
October 31st, 2005 at 10:06 amWhere do you live in MA, SS?. I’d like to pay you a little visit and demonstrate NAZI torture techniques.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:08 amAfter, maybe you will understand the diffence between FREEDOM to choose, and facism.
… Neoconnies are TRAITORS to our COUNTRY ! NO Halloween treats for neoconnie tricks ! … ;)
October 31st, 2005 at 10:08 amI agree with Speculum Sniff!
OVERTURN ROE!!!
OVERTURN ROE!!!
OVERTURN ROE!!!
OVERTURN ROE!!!
OVERTURN ROE!!!
OVERTURN ROE!!!
OVERTURN ROE!!!
OVERTURN ROE!!!
OVERTURN ROE!!!
OVERTURN ROE!!!
END GOP POWER FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 31st, 2005 at 10:08 amYou should be moving soon then, NeD. You must really hate your state. I, personally, think NYC is fabulous and will be back soon. Might I suggest Utah for you? I see they have the highest rate of teen suicide – figures.
My fight is not with a bunch of faux christian extremists, they don’t play fair and, if you actually go to a church, which I’m sure you DON’T, then you will notice they are just as evil as anyone and get their girls abortions so they won’t look dirty. They sleep with each others’ wives/husbands and drink like fish.
I would much rather be around real people to talk about the crap that goes on around them and not about how good they are all.
Fight? I don’t think so. I’m moving towards the future where extremists such as yourself are marginalized.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:10 amNo SS, you cannot have any, buy your own dope. I’m guessing you know where to find some.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:11 amAll of you wingers take note. Bush’s hard core support is down to 22% according to ABC poll. He also has 17% tepid support. Those who strongly hate his guts is now at 45% and those who only find him mildly loathsome at 13%. There are other polls that show a strong inclination for impeachment. This nomination may or may not help him with his base. Who cares? His base is eroding rapidly as more people discover he is incompetant and as crooked as a dogs hindleg. If he can’t suck it up and become a real president and unite the country. The country will unite against him. It is just a matter of time. The first casualty in the process will be the republican congress and a number of state races for Governor. This is already showing up in polling by corporate media like ABC, CNN Gallop, Fox. Gallop has even tried a little push polling on George’s behalf by enlarging the portion or republicans in their samples. If Gallop’s polls reflected the actual percentage of registered voters by party and voting history W would look even weaker. I believe all the noise coming from wingers is them whistling past the graveyard. The longer Bush stumbles the worse it gets he seems incapable of doing anything but stumble. Has anyone considered that W may be a Jonah. He is the unluckiest president I can remember. Some people thought Reagan was dumb but thank god at least he was lucky. This guy is unlucky and dumb. Soon there will be sizeable majorities in this country for impeachment. W is going to try to scare us on Tuesday about bird flu. The worst part about that is that the country is in his hands and he really has not prepared of this epidemic. One thing we all need to remember is that the flu is no respecter of political parties and death will stalk red and blue states equally. When your mother, son, daughter, husband, wife is dead from a failed responce by our government and we are on the verge of economic collapse don’ forget to thank W.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:12 amJanice,
Are you sure there will be more indictments? Why are you attacking me? I thought liberals were supposed to be open-minded? You sound like a man or are you confused?
October 31st, 2005 at 10:12 amHow is IT SS, that you have everything backwards? Did you get in the cabinet under the sink when you were a child and swallow the drano?
October 31st, 2005 at 10:12 amWomen calling weak cowardly right wing men Fag packs one hell of a punch SS . Haaahaaahaaaaa FAG
It’s back to Treasongate tomorrow. Remember:
People who say Libby forgot and people who say a lack of indictment on the primary charge is a success are people who would KILL YOU if they could get away with it.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:13 amTom, apparently Mary shared whatever she’s been smoking with you – I wish you guys would share.
See Tom, you’re just being silly. What conservatives have long wanted is a return to the principles of judicial restraint advocated by the framers of our Constitution. The framers were clear in their writings – when an issue is NOT mentioned in the Constitution, it is to be left up to the states to decide. If the people want something ADDED to the Constitution, there is an amendment process. THAT, Tom, is what conservatives want, and that is what we will fight for until we get it.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:14 am“Haaahaaahaaaaa FAG”
If this is an example of the intellect behind the liberals’ effort to Bork Alito, you might as well give it up now – you are doomed to failure.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:16 amTelling someone to move to Canada is really stupid. Sounds very familiar to the ole’ move back to Africa crap. I’m guessing you were a Strom fan. Nobody’s going anywhere expect within our country.
I whole heartedly agree with the intelligencia here – let them have it and then they will have no talking point. Cut off the head and the body will die. There will always be good doctors who perform safe abortions. When they are arrested, like Rosa Parks, it will start becomming news again. Back to the future we go.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:16 am… My question is , if a MAJORITY of the Supreme Court is Catholic already , AND Scare-Alito makes 1 more to the ‘ fold ‘ , how long will it be before good ol’ religions like Baptists and Penticosts fall OUT of ‘ favor ‘ ?!? Them Catlicks are REAL big on ” NO OTHER religion before MINE ! ” , and GREED rules above God in MOST religions today ! … ;)
October 31st, 2005 at 10:19 amI hope this is what you wanted…
For all my neighbors on the right who are gloating about this Supreme Court nominee about now, maybe you should look at what this means to you personally? Great summary from Think Progress:
October 31st, 2005 at 10:19 amALITO WOULD OVERTURN ROE V. WADE: In his dissenting opinion …
Randy,
Janice is the typical example of liberal “tolerance” – anyone who disagrees with her is a “fag.”
Moonbats like Janice might as well get used to Scalito now – he will be confirmed, and the court will emerge from the dark ages of judicial activism that has infected it for the last three decades and once again begin to do what it is supposed to do – INTERPRET the Constitution.
It is a glorious day in America.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:20 am“Back to the future we go.”
“Great 28″
You’re batting 1000, PNP!
October 31st, 2005 at 10:22 am#144 SS You are the one who is smoking. Bush and his cronies are going down than You can cry in your beer. The court is suppose to be for all Americans.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:22 amSteve, are freakin’ kidding me? Overturning that stunningly bad law would be a DREAM COME TRUE…it, along with Kelo, are but a few of the egregious activisim of an out-of-control court that has long since abandoned any pretense of Constitutional originalism or judicial restraint.
Hopefully, with Roberts and Alito, we will emerge from these dark, DARK years and return to a sane judiciary process in this country.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:23 amIt’s back to Treasongate tomorrow. Remember:
People who say Libby forgot and people who say a lack of indictment on the primary charge is a success are people who would KILL YOU if they could get away with it.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:24 amI completely agree with #146. This is just a temporary darkness in our history. Eventually we will modernize and catch up with the rest of the world on the path towards a better, more educated, and free civilization. It’s just a matter of time. As the baby boomers start passing away, they will be replaced by a more liberal generation. The samething happened in Europe, so too will it happen in the U.S.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:24 am“The court is suppose to be for all Americans.”
Translation – the court is supposed to INVENT rights out of thin air for me whenever I demand them! (Stomp, slam, piss, moan, whine)
SCOTUS is moving back to the center, losers – try not to cry yourself to sleep about it.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:25 am… NO Scare-Alito on the court , children , don’t worry ! There’s somethin’ comin’ for him , and it’s NO bag of treats , I guarantee ! We have just begun to dig in his yard – wait ’til we get to that stanky ol’ closet upstairs ( oooh , it’s dark in there – watch what you step in ! ) ! … ;)
October 31st, 2005 at 10:25 amThis is too good, really. All this whining and seething from the Filthy Left who quickly are finding themselves on the outside looking in. “Let the states divide!” “Bush will be impeached!” “We have a Catholic supreme court!” “Bushie is a dictator!” Haaaahahahahah, what a bunch of losers.
“At the core of modern liberalism is the spoiled child —miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats.”
~ Jesus
October 31st, 2005 at 10:25 amThe extremists want a fight so Bush can look “like a man.” Good luck, he is weak and the world knows it. We will not give him a fight that he has staged.
Again, there will always be abortion. The radicals can’t stop it. They want judges to be moot and they will have their Catholic SCOTUS. Fine and dandy, I know we can’t step back. If we try, we are doomed.
I heard a little talk of universal healthcare from the very few middle ground repubs this weekend. How about them apples. When Hillary said it, it was CRAZY. But now, we start opening our eyes to the possibility that this just may HAVE to exist because of all of the HUGE corporations not being able to pay for FRIST healthcare.
THAT is what I call forward thinking and someone looking to the future BEFORE their is a crisis.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:26 am[...] For an overview of his hostility to liberty, visit Think Progress. Samuel Alito believes that police should be able to strip-search us for drugs even if our names aren’t in search warrants. [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 10:27 am#130 – actually – Randy “the fag” is perfectly acceptable as a description of his IQ. A ‘fag’ is also a bundle of sticks – and Randy obviously has an IQ similar to said bundle of sticks. Get your mind out of the gutter…
October 31st, 2005 at 10:27 amThey’re quoting scripture! It’s gotten that bad! HA!
It’s back to Treasongate tomorrow. Remember:
People who say Libby forgot and people who say a lack of indictment on the primary charge is a success are people who would KILL YOU if they could get away with it.
Jesus hated Pharisee and loved whores!
October 31st, 2005 at 10:28 am… Ewww , it must be Halloween – lookit ALL these stinky trolls , barfing their neoconnie spew all over ! Grab the waders , kiddies , and let’s spray these freepers right back to their GREED-God , BushCo . – ” BushCo. – We’re ruining the future for everyone ! ” !!! … ;)
October 31st, 2005 at 10:30 amWhat’s the Hebrew word for liberal?
October 31st, 2005 at 10:30 am“A ‘fag’ is also a bundle of sticks – and Randy obviously has an IQ similar to said bundle of sticks. Get your mind out of the gutter…”
LOL! Nice try, but we ain’t in England, homie. Peddle your delusions somewhere else.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:31 amIt’s all good if you’re a Nascar Republican. Limited in education and logic, but long on opinion. Whitebread and mayonnaise all the way to church.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:32 amNortheast Douchebag and Snuffy Smith think because they won
a 50.9% “Majority” that they and the Red State Soulmates (many
of whom would see these 2 cheeto-stained losers for who they
are) have some kind of super, unbreakable “right” to rule everything.
It’s the “logic” of the conservaturds: “We rule ALL because we have
the slimmest majority in US History! Yee Haw!”. Great “logic”…
Delay, Frist, Bush, Rove…it’s all coming down. Sooner or later the
thoughtful, non-fearful, non-bigoted, non-ignorant American
People will show you assholes to the door, and you’ll have another
40 years in the wilderness like you did from the 50’s to the 90’s
(or do you know something we don’t *cough* Diebold *cough*?).
Here are some interesting numbers for you:
1931: Senate: 39D, 56R. House: 163D, 267R
Six short years of asshole GOP rule later:
1937: Senate: 75D, 17R. House: 333D, 89R
Careful what you wish for Northeast Douchebag and
October 31st, 2005 at 10:32 amSnuffy Smith. You THINK you have some unimpeachable,
“silent” supermajority but the truth is most people just
think you’re loudmouth assholes and when you try to
jerk us all back to 1889 (or 1389), the backlash will be
a BITCH. And it’s coming soon; the frog in the boiling
pot smells frogslegs already. That’s why The Chimp is
at 39% and a majority of Americans prefer the Dems over
the fascist GOP. Keep pushing. Keep taking from us and
giving it all to the Rich. I’m sure that 50.9% will hold
“forever”, right?
We are not whining and most of us shower daily so we aren’t “filthy.” We are, however, not going anywhere. This country changes on a dime and the truth being shown to the people about the corruption in the WH is evidence of their selfishness and lack of commitment to the people.
It has been shown to all that Bush is bought and paid for by extremists.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:33 amCan you feel the grinding fault, Bigby? OH MY GOD THIS IS HUGE!!!!!
October 31st, 2005 at 10:34 am“That’s why The Chimp is
at 39% and a majority of Americans prefer the Dems over
the fascist GOP.”
Yeah, Bugby, which explains why the Democratic leaders have a collective 32% approval rating…hang on to those delusions, bug. They are all you have.
Nice invoking of Godwin’s law, BTW.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:35 am“It has been shown to all that Bush is bought and paid for by extremists. ”
Not only that, he tried to go moderate and got shot down! He is clearly feeble and weak! “A choice to stop the bleeding”!
October 31st, 2005 at 10:37 am#167 – considering Democrats are bought and paid for by extremists, I think we’re about even. Besides, there is nothing extreme about shifting the Court right. Abortion will not be illegal if Roe is overturned. Affirmative action is a racist policy and overturning will be good for the country.
What liberals are really scared about is that the Court will shift right and no one will care. Remember this fear. AND go ahead and try to impeach Bush – you will be met with a force you have never seen.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:37 amYou are correct Bigby, we are a very young country and are still cutting our teeth. I am in it for the long haul and know that, although history will repeat itself, eventually we hard headed Americans learn. It takes a moment, just a brief moment to jar people back to sanity. It seems as though we will have to take a few steps back to be able to make leaps forward. I see this.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:37 amIt’s Alito
President Bush has just nominated Samuel Alito to fill the seat on the Supreme Court being vacated by Justice O’Connor:
October 31st, 2005 at 10:38 amWASHINGTON (AP) – President Bush has nominated conservative judge Samuel Alito to replace moderate Justice Sandra Day O̵…
Then why did C.Thomas partake of affirmative action?
October 31st, 2005 at 10:38 am#170 – if the left wasn’t so insane, you could have had Miers. But since you people are trying to impeach the President, you gave Bushie no choice. My support is not unconditional and I could easily feed him to you wolves if he doesn’t listen.
So it the left’s own extremism that has brought this on.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:38 amThe hatred of Bush is more significant than wishy washy support of Dems.
These treasonous bastards want to kill you.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:39 am… Ah , that word would be ” ( Al )Franken ” , as interpreted by the definition from the American Heritage dictionary : Frank ( adj. ) > Open and sincere in expression ; straightforward – in other words , JUST like Al ! Hope that helps , Average TV Viewer ! … ;)
October 31st, 2005 at 10:40 am#174 – really good question and one I am sure CT asks himself everytime he hears someone like you bring it up. It would have surely been better for Thomas never to have had those options considering his qualifications would always be in question.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:40 amThere needs to be no impeachment. He has impeached himself.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:40 amAmong his other accomplishmnets, Alito has been on the government tit since law school
October 31st, 2005 at 10:40 amYou’re not going to do anything, NED. Your treasonous gov’t does not give a crap about you. You are an insignificant piece of crap to them.
These treasonous bastards would kill you just as quickly as the next guy.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:41 am#179 – ok, you keep thinking that. Republicans will continue to work on the business of the country while you try to overturn two elections. Your task is bigger than mine.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:41 amNothing is true. Everything is permitted.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:42 amYes, absolutely, let it go Democrats. Let the GOP overturn Roe v. Wade. Let’s split the country between Red and Blue States. It’s been coming to this for over 20 years. Let the country see the difference between a Red and Blue state. The Blue states will have far more personal freedoms than the Red’s. Hell, the Red States will have to put up walls to keep its citizens from escaping. The time has come. Don’t waste time and money on a huge fight. He is just what we need. GO BLUE!
October 31st, 2005 at 10:42 am… Start diggin’ bebes , ol’ Scare-Alito be hiding somethin’ ! Halloween is ALL about opening those dark , scary doors , and slaying the neoconnie beasties that spew forth from their alternate dimension ! Ewww , and they smell bad , too ! … ;)
October 31st, 2005 at 10:44 am“Let the country see the difference between a Red and Blue state. The Blue states will have far more personal freedoms than the Red’s.”
By all means, lets erect the fence now – I don’t want the freakish mutant children of blue state incestual marriages crossing state lines. Our health care system is overtaxed with illegal immigrants enough as it is.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:45 amOVERTURN ROE, IT WILL DESTROY THE GOP FOREVER!!
October 31st, 2005 at 10:45 am“OVERTURN ROE, IT WILL DESTROY THE GOP FOREVER!!”
How?
October 31st, 2005 at 10:47 amLibby forgot
No primary charge indictment is a success
Kill to maintain power
October 31st, 2005 at 10:47 amRepublicans support and inspire criminal behavior and their abortion issues show that human life is only of value when it is allowed to mature and bring profits to the corporation. So when you hear a republican talk of compassion for the unborn, it’s a lie. They just want to enslave the unborn to reap financial rewards for themselves.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:47 amF*CK YOU SPECULUM.
Libby forgot
No primary charge indictment is a success
Kill to maintain power
October 31st, 2005 at 10:48 amWell…May God’s will be done!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 31st, 2005 at 10:48 amRepublicans will continue to work on the business of the country while you try to overturn two elections. Your task is bigger than mine.
That’s true. Trying to take one’s country back from an unelected neo-fascist junta is a much bigger job than shilling for that junta.
What can I say, each of us has to take on the size of job that we can handle.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:49 amBetter to have a 28 blue-state nation… huh? More like 19 if you actually count them (for you numerically challenged leftist-school products, see wikipedia.com/wiki/Red_states for the facts). And unfortunately, most of the blue states are red geographically. The US is a red nation of hard working middle class folk with blue cities where all the rich liberals, union house slaves and social welfare dependents live.
Please keep the left whining (and bring Cindy Sheehan back out again). We need more examples of a failed ideology to help get the Republican agenda rolling again and nothing helps more than a bunch of screaming moonbats, bitter (and hypocritical) Senators and delusional leftists.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:50 amSo that’s a problem, NeD. You don’t give a crap about people, just yourself. You don’t care if America has a great leader. You don’t mind if he is smart or dumb. You also don’t seem to give a hell about his failures or crimes. It is only about what he can do for YOU. That is simply aggregious. That you can drop someone in a second and toss him to side if he doesn’t tow YOUR line makes for a cynical uncaring individual. What do you do to help our your fellow citizens? What do you do for absolutely no reason but to make someone else’s life better?
You see the homeless asking for money and you wonder why they can’t just get a job. I mean, you could so why can’t everyone? Empathy and humility are lessons America has to constantly reteach itself. Society demands this — eventually good will win.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:50 am[...] Update — To understand how reactionary Alito is both politically and in his judicial philosophy, he has actually already written an opinion to overturn Roe v. Wade, and he did so as a Circuit Court Judge, where his main prerogative is correctly applying SCOTUS precedent. ThinkProgress has more. [link] [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 10:51 am#184 What about the states that are not Red of Blue. WI is a purple state. Maybe at some point WI will become a BLUE STATE. WE NEED TO VOTE SENSENBREENER OUT OF OFFICE. I AGREE GO BLUE STATES GO!!!!
October 31st, 2005 at 10:51 am70% support Roe. That will change the colors on the map when you cow tipping yahoos see what real judicial activism is, gop style. You’re an idiot.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:52 am…” Red States ” – it’s ALL about the ‘ red ‘ , isn’t it ? And that’s a VERY appropriate color for neoconnies , too ! Ah yes , red is the SAME color as Hell-fire ( reference to most artwork of Hades – ooh , what’s the color scheme we’re seeing , I wonder ? ) , and the SAME color as the BLOOD of our soldiers being spilled even as we speak for BushCo.s GREED-God , OIL ! …
October 31st, 2005 at 10:53 amFrom Canada, it looks as if the US is heading for a serious crisis (economic and social) and this will be the legacy of George W. Bush. Please, next time, vote! Don’t let the conservatives ruin your country.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:54 am“1985″
“Handmaid’s Tale”
….right around the corner.
Grandma is dead on. What we have now are all of these apathetic young with their cell phones glued to their heads ipod shoved in one ear, too busy downloading their music and their ring tones, caught up in shopping and MTV. They do not care to fight for the very rights women a few decades ago fought for. They haven’t a clue what they are about to lose and too many won’t until it’s too late.
Let me quote what one teen girl told me during a protest “Welcome to the suck. You bitches can burn in hell. GOOOOO BUSH”.
Yeah, wait till she’s knocked up, doesn’t want her baby and she HAS to have it because abortions are illegal. Oh yes, they are going to get a big swift kick in their asses all too soon.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:54 am#195 – my support is NOT unconditional. Bush was backing out of a promise that a plurality of Americans agreed with – conservative judges. I think the President is a masterful politician who wanted to hold on to this fight until he needed it. That’s politics and to say I don’t care about people is just misinformed, but typical.
I care about this country and for that reason, I demand a shift to the right for the Court. If you get back the White House in 2008, I fully expect more Ginsburgs and Breyers. That’s politics and elections matter…
October 31st, 2005 at 10:54 amIf men could get preganant, not only would there be no question of Roe being overturned but we’d have nationalized health care specifically for pregnancies, abortions et al… maternity leave would be legislated for soem12 – 24 months and every man would be issued something akin to a purple heart every time he gave birth…..
October 31st, 2005 at 10:54 amLibby forgot
No primary charge indictment is a success
The “people” are expendable
October 31st, 2005 at 10:54 amMr. Farr
Believe me Sir, I voted. I voted for Kerry, a vote which was wasted all the same as a vote for Bush.
That election was fixed as the one in 2000 was.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:56 amp.s. Happy Halloween to all you Rove-terrified leftists! Wish I had a Rove mask to wear tonight and run around all the fat-cat liberal neighborhoods causing countless wimpy whiners to cream their pants.
Cowtipper
October 31st, 2005 at 10:57 am(A proud member of the right-wing Haliburton-Rove-Bildaburger-Neocon-Nazi-Unlilateral-Jewish Conspiracy)
I think a lot of the people commenting on here are narrow minded even though you say you are libs. You’re blinded, and can only see one side
October 31st, 2005 at 10:57 amI just loved it when this site did their video tribute to Harriet Miers. Now maybe they should do one with Cindy Lauper’s “True Colors” … because today, at long last there is no doubt about the kind of “compassionate conservative” GWB is.
If Dubya thinks Sam Alito is the best judge out there to fill Sandra Day O’Connor’s shoes, then I’ve got a bridge between Brooklyn and Manhattan I’d like to sell you. Any one, it doesn’t matter.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:59 am“A little rebellion now and then is a good thing. The tree of libery must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
October 31st, 2005 at 10:59 am— Thomas Jefferson
Me
October 31st, 2005 at 11:00 amRevolution NOW!
October 31st, 2005 at 11:00 amCowtipper
(A proud member of the right-wing Haliburton-Rove-Bildaburger-Neocon-Nazi-Unlilateral-Jewish Conspiracy)
Please get your ass to a recruiting office and sign up today. They need people like you in Iraq desperately.
Hurry along now, pro life murderer.
October 31st, 2005 at 11:02 amThe Congressional Democrats keep missing the point of the Supreme Court Appointies by falling into the Abortion Debate trap laid by the Corporate Republicans.
The question: Do you think corporations should have more rights then ordinary citizens is never asked.
The question of why “free speech” should be unlimited to Corporations?
The question of: should a Corporation that bases its headquarters outside the United States be considered a American or foriegn entitiy?
The question: do you believe that corporations acting on behalf of the United States (such as Black Water or Haliburtan) should be immune to public scrutny in the form of FOIA and accountability?
The question: Do you believe that corporations should have more privacy rights then individuals and do you believe that Griswald was proper jurisprudence?
The Question: Is there any set of criminal circumstances that a corporation guilty of should have its incorporation revoked and cease to be a legal entitY? (such as killing 5000+ (Union Carbide/Bopal), dissolving $60 Billion (Enron).
The question: Do you think that the endnotes added by the Court Clerk in Santa Clare vs Pacific Railroad is a proper venue for Supreme Court Juriprudence and a basis of subsequent decisions? (that would shake things up!)
The movement to reign in corporate power will be completely undercut by the Corporate owned federal and Supreme Court(s). That is where all this corporate power has historically originated and is propagated from. The abortion demogougery by the “Pro-Coathanger” crowd, while important, pales in comparison to the consequences of the unchecked “corporate rights” non-discussion in Congress and the Judiciary.
October 31st, 2005 at 11:02 ami think that the theocrats could be very upset about this guy too, if their attention were to directed to one decision in particular.
in the case hidayat v. US, alito and a couple other “activist judges” denied an indonesian christian man asylum, sending him back to indonesia to be persecuted and possibly even tortured by his muslim neighbors.
last time i checked, persecution of christians worldwide, especially by muslims in indonesia, remains a hot-button topic of the so-called christian right.
if this became wider knowledge, judge alito would certainly have some explaining to do.
October 31st, 2005 at 11:07 am… Show up at OUR house , cowtipper – and my big , black Great Dane will eat your a** up ! She LOVES fatty , GREASY , pork-laden rump roast , and the Rove mask is like A-1 sauce ! Get’em , girl !!! … ;)
October 31st, 2005 at 11:07 am“I am so tired of the whole thing. My worries about reproductive rights are long behind me. Let this generation put down their cell phones, turn off Desperate Housewives and realize that their political apathy will destroy the rights that a previous generation fought for.”
marjorie–
though a member of “this generation” (i assume?–im 23), i am equally disgusted at the apathy and ignorance i have witnessed in a lot of young people, but i would argue there are just as many clueless people in your generation. after all, it is members of this “previous generation” (which includes bush and woodward, again i assume youre refering to the babyboomers) that are actually destroying our rights.
i am a little tired of hearing about this ridiculous dichotomy, that the young people in the 60s were all so passionate and involved and all the young people today are lazy automatons.
frankly, a lot of the “hippy generation” sold out. they are now the establishment and many have become republicans and abandoned their “childish” liberal ways as their bank accounts have grown.
were still fighting thanks, and your negativity is unhelpful. im sorry youre tired, but i think it is a little naive to think that all those battles were won and ended with roe and just some legislation.
and btw, the average viewer of desperate housewives is forty-something….
October 31st, 2005 at 11:07 amAnyone that wants a civil war right now, why don’t you move to Canada so that you can have your national health, gay marriages and the like. Good riddence!
Comment by Randy — October 31, 2005 @ 9:40 am
Anyone that wants another religiously insane nutjob like Scalito on the Supreme court right now, why don’t you move to Iran so that you can have your religious theocracy, gay witch hunts and the like. Good riddance!
You wrongwingnuts sure can dish it out, but you whine like the spoiled little brats you are when somebody gives as good as they get from human scum like you Repugnicant idiots.
October 31st, 2005 at 11:08 am“…an unelected neo-fascist junta…”
It’s amazing to me that you folks can spout sophomoric drama-queen lines like that with a straight face.
October 31st, 2005 at 11:11 amThank God! Federal Interention is states rights was awful. Look at this criminal that is laying in state in DC. They should have left it up to the states, damn the Feds! They came in and gave the coloreds the the right to vote and get an education.
Praise be to Allah…I mean God, that the real religious folks and the people of faith, not reason are taking back our streets.
I can’t wait for my wife to ask me for contraception. I can’t wait for the presumption of innocence to be thrown away. I am looking for to th recriminilizing of homsexuals, get back in the closet or into jail, that goes for you Mary Cheney!
Happy days are here again. Prayer in schools, large granite religious displays paid for by the public and placed on public property. Rescinding of minimum wage laws, abrogation of international treaties….Brin it on!
-GSD
October 31st, 2005 at 11:13 ammore on topic, im scared…. i worry the democrats are not up to the fight. and stevens is 85!! he needs to hang in there for three more years…hell be pushing 90!!
so thats roberts scalia thomas alito…kennedy, makes a very stong conservative majority already…another bush nominee makes it 6-3…and for all the fuss about souter hes not a liberal.
October 31st, 2005 at 11:15 amTo Granite State Destroyer … I hope that was meant as a joke because it was as funny as hell.
October 31st, 2005 at 11:16 am[...] The Bush Administration is using Rosa Parks as a political pawn to make Judge Alito, their nominee, look sensitive to civil rights concerns. Here’s the thing, Judge Alito has been criticized by his colleagues for effectively arguing for the legalization of race-based discrimination. Rosa Parks would not have endorsed this man. As Ezra writes, this is disgusting, offensive, and patently BushCo. [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 11:17 amJenna gets knocked up at a coke party.
“Daddy can I get one of them things done. I got a bastard baby in me”.
“Hell no. It’s against God. God told me so. He talks to me. By the way Jenna, you got any of that coke left from the other night?”
October 31st, 2005 at 11:18 amWhat about the RIGHT TO PRIVACY. A couple has a right to decide if and when they want a baby. Now the Pharmacist are refusing to fill Contraceptives because of their Religious beliefs. If the Pharmacist cann’t fill the prescription they should not be a Pharmacist. The men can get their condoms. Women have rights too. This is totally wrong. If men had to have a baby their would be abortion clinics on every corner.
October 31st, 2005 at 11:21 amWhere did all the trolls come from? Trick or treating on the big people’s blog? Please do not give the trolls anything – all it does is make them constipated and grouchy…
October 31st, 2005 at 11:21 am[...] The fight will be epic. The rhetoric ubiquitous. Meet Samuel Alito. Cat: [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 11:25 am… Re. #217 – That sums it up for me , (: Tom :) ! Once the neoconnies get a taste of Irans version of GOP ( G.reed – O.ppression – P.unishment ) , they’ll realize their mistake , but alas , it is too late to repent ! The fires of their skewed ‘ freedom ‘ will consume them – Happy trails , neoconnies ! … ;)
October 31st, 2005 at 11:26 am#214
This is a VERY valid point.
Has anyone ventured to see how Roberts, former corporate lawyer, Scalia, Alito (or Miers corporate lawyer that she was) & Co. would expound on Rhenquist’s anti commerce-clause views.
Even Scalia, strict constructionist, has been forced to admit the validity of the dormant commerce clause, found nowhere in the constution and only implied.
These guys want to turn the clock back on federal powers that we take for granted in the environment, taxation, etc. to an era of Calhoun and nullification by states and corporations of federal powers.
October 31st, 2005 at 11:26 am[...] President Bush today announced his pick for a replacement for retiring Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor, one Samuel Alito. Learning from the Miers debacle, Bush took no chances in offending his base and picked a man so conservative he’s earned the nickname “Scalito,” after ultra-conservative Justice Scalia. How conservative is Scalito? [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 11:27 am>>Let the states split. Let there be 2 Americas. Bush legacy.
October 31st, 2005 at 11:31 am[...] Alito is the worst of the worst. He’s a guaranteed vote to overturn Roe v Wade. He’s pro-discrimination, anti-civil rights, and likely to side with big corporations over workers every time. [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 11:32 amAnad – Also, we can get a lot of our income back because we’d no longer be subsidizing the slacker red states with our income tax. In Mass., we get something like 78 cents back on every tax dollar. Mississippi, Tennessee, et. al. get about $1.15. It’s all good— they can simply bring back sharecropping or find another country to sell cigarettes to.
October 31st, 2005 at 11:33 amMy last post didn’t “take” properly, so I’m re-posting it.
“Let the states split. Let there be 2 Americas. Bush legacy.”
Two Americas? Try 50! Picture this – there could be states which allow abortion but have no minimum wage laws, or states which have healthy minimum wage laws but allow unlimited police search-and-seizure. Or states with American style restraints on police actions but which permit religious discrimination, and so on. And while it’s certainly a very, very long shot, secession, a la 1860, by certain states whose citizens have had enough Bush Court bullshit is not out of the question. Boys and girls, welcome to Civil War III (the second one was the civil rights movement of the 50’s and 60’s).
October 31st, 2005 at 11:34 amhmmm yeah i do think its out of the question…..
October 31st, 2005 at 11:36 amYou people are nuts. No wonder the majority of the country thinks you are wackos…you are.
October 31st, 2005 at 11:40 amWow, i almost want Harriet Miers back since we now have this chump to deal with…
October 31st, 2005 at 11:40 amTabby writes: “Please get your ass to a recruiting office and sign up today. They need people like you in Iraq desperately.”
Actually, unlike most posters here, college and military service was many years ago. Already served, but I’d guess ol’ Tabby hasn’t (unlike Tabby, I respect people’s right to choose when it comes to military service). Speaking of right to choose…
“Hurry along now, pro life murderer.” (says Tabby)
Remarkable how the left thinks. It appears there is considerable merit to the studies that show leftist/relativists as having degrees of mental disorder. I’m quite supportive of the right for a woman to choose (and be responsible for that choice). So tell me, how does one become a hate-filled, delusional, conspiracy-believing, irrational, name-calling left-wing moonbat? Is it from continued life-experience failures, envy over hard-working normal people, or just psychological issues that might need treatment (or perhaps self-medication)?
October 31st, 2005 at 11:45 amYour NEW Pledge: I pledge subservience to the corporations that control the United States of America and to the market that they exploit; one nation, under Mammon, with liberty and justice for the few who have accumulated the wealth to afford it.
October 31st, 2005 at 11:46 amRandy, SS, cowtipper, and all you other conservobots–
Why do you hate America?
P.S. I’m a progressive living in a red state (Florida) and really resent the comments coming from both the right AND the left re: secession. We’re all Americans, we’re all in this together, and a lot of people tend to forget that all of us have the same rights to “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,” no matter what our political leanings.
I think especially those on the Right tend to forget that we on the Left are just as American as you are.
October 31st, 2005 at 11:53 amNot only Roe verses Wade what about all our rights .I never throught the weoman judge would be the one she was was being used . And Rove was all smiles when he was not indicted So to me it was business as Usual.
October 31st, 2005 at 11:54 am“What about the RIGHT TO PRIVACY. A couple has a right to decide if and when they want a baby.”
Yes they do – and they will continue to have these same rights with or without Roe v. Wade.
The “right to privacy” meme, of course, is a strawman – by attaching some invented notion of “privacy” to the surgical process of electively vacuuming out a developing human life in pieces from the womb, the left thinks they make abortion a “right” – wholly and completely ridiculous. You more have a right to an abortion than you have a right to ingest illegal drugs or sell your body for sex, both of which can be done in the privacy of one’s own home.
An originalist SCOTUS that respects the principles of judicial restraint would NEVER have legislated a right to an abortion in the manner in which Roe v. Wade became the law of the land. Abortion is a matter for states to decide. If and until the proborts manage to get a Constitutional amendment passed, you get to do nothing but cry about it.
October 31st, 2005 at 12:04 pmThere are many people who are honest enough to admit (or is it that they’re too smart to deny?) that Roe v. Wade is, purely from a Constitutional Law standpoint, a horrendoulsy poor decision that is predicated PURELY on reaching the desired outcome and NOT on Constitutional Law. I am NOT a religious zealot and have no religious objections to abortion, but I do have a problem with the Court transforming issues that have always been regulated by the States into Constitutional law. There is no right to privacy in the Constitution; it is non-existent. Thus anything based upon this invented right is flawed. While I would LOVE to amend the Constitution to include an explicit right to privacy, if that is not politically possible, then, under our system of government, the states decide such issues, not the Supreme Court, no matter how desirable or advisable the result they reach. The “system” is more important than any single issue, even ones that go to personal autonomy and what should be, private sexual conduct.
October 31st, 2005 at 12:07 pmMichelle, it’s not that they forget, they just don’t care what you think. The radical right is in a tunnel vision mode. They don’t care about their neighbor or other people’s children. They are focused only on themselves and believe that is fine. They don’t see America as a unit but as factions – like a corporation, where one can take over another with might. Good will win out and KARMA reigns supreme. The radical right is not a happy people and are always very mad, either with others or their own party, which they feel they have bought and paid for.
Such as it is, we will eventually, have more Ben Franklins and Thomas Jeffersons to stand up once again. What goes up will, alas, come down. We the people just need to think our people as a whole and what everyone wants – not just the radical percentage.
October 31st, 2005 at 12:07 pm“Why do you hate America?”
Michelle, why do you think leaning towards the Constitutional principles espoused by the framers of the Constitution and founders of the country is “hating America?” Why do you think anyone who disagrees with you “hates” America? In your “America” do you allow only those who follow you in lock-step, like good little lemmings to speak?
October 31st, 2005 at 12:09 pmI just called Senator Chafee’s office about Doe v Groody. The staffer sounded horrified.
October 31st, 2005 at 12:12 pmWell, Meirs was obviously just a smoke screen to put this Nazi in the court. Rove must be working overtime these days, instead of being in prison.
October 31st, 2005 at 12:14 pmMike,
I’m not particularly religious either, but AMEN….for decades now, we the people have watched 9 unelected black robes usurp the power elected by the people to the state legislatures in this country, substituting their own whacko social views in its place.
I frankly don’t give two smelly turds about the ancillary “when does a fetus become a human” issues – most of those arguments are strawmen anyway. We can have those debates AFTER rights have been restored to the states by SCOTUS. Until then, I oppose Roe for precisely the same reason you do – it was decided in a manner wholly and completely opposed to the principles of judicial restraint and the original intent of the Constitution.
October 31st, 2005 at 12:15 pmThink Progress Has Info on Alito
This is some scary stuff. Alito is already being hailed as both a nice guy and a conservative judicial activist. If he and Scalia are on the Supreme Court together, they can “good-cop, bad-cop” the other justices until they turn back the…
October 31st, 2005 at 12:15 pm[...] Looks like the fundie mouthbreathers are getting their nominee after all. If the Dems don’t filibuster this caveman, they may as well just start lining up against the wall now for when the American Taliban’s revolution comes. At the very least, they need to start polishing their Vichy badges up. [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 12:17 pmSS, that is merely YOUR opinion. You seem to have a problem discerning opinion from fact. Just because you believe the Constitution says one thing, others disagree with you. You aren’t spouting fact, just opining. Remember, Thomas Jefferson said otherwise.
October 31st, 2005 at 12:18 pmThat has to be one the largest pieces of hype I’ve read in quite some time. Obviously you are banking on the fact that most people will not take the time to read the actual court cases. Just as one example your claim that Alito supports the “unauthorized” strip searches of ten year old girls is bs. The case centered around the discussion of whether the search warrant was accurate or not. It has nothing to do with a child being involved. This type of hysterical hype only serves to destroy any credible concerns about Alito.
October 31st, 2005 at 12:18 pmFor all the grandmothers and the “split the country” folks-buck up & be strong for us! I am a Red State (Montana) liberal, and we are slowly making progress. We are becoming a ‘purple’ state, and I suspect many other reds are as well. In ‘04, we put a democrat in the state house and voted in a liberal judge to the state Supreme Court-BUT-we voted for Bush 65/35. We voted in medical mariajuana and against a few really hideous pro-mining propositions-BUT-voted for an anti-gay marriage amendment. We’re really trying out here in the red states, and we just couldn’t go on if the rest of you abandoned us! It is true that it is discouraging to see people voting so consistently against their interests (it is so frustrating that you usually see the most violently right wing bumper stickers on the oldest, most beat up cars), but for years in my state the repubs have been hiding their real agendas behind social issues (Al Gore is coming to take your guns!!) but people are starting to see through that. And the repub leadership is being sooo helpful with their blatant corruption, cronyism, etc. Heating bills are going up here in the Heartland, energy assistance is going down, and more and more of our young people are going to Iraq and not coming back. People are starting to open their eyes, and those of us here on the red state front lines need your moral support!
October 31st, 2005 at 12:21 pmss and other right wing hypocrtes.
October 31st, 2005 at 12:25 pmrespond or are you cowards?
Are you willing to forgo current tax cuts to pay for the
care and feeding of all the unwanted babies that would come from reversal of roe v wade?
Are you willing to forgo current tax cuts to pay for the
incarceration of all the unwanted babies that will turn to crime?
What about the mental health care of the mothers and babies born of rape or incest?
Or care and feeding of babies born with defects from
uncaring or bad mothers?
Why do you ignore the sermon on the mount? Do you not see yourself as the pharasies of old?
Do you or do you not believe in state rights?
If alchohol is legal and proven to be far more damaging than marijuana, why do you on the right
fight the legalization of thc to the point of denying it to dying people?
Do you have any empathy or compassion or are you just
greedy and self centered?
Do you really think that fascism is best for this country? Corperations rule?
[...] Thinkprogress gives a rundown of Alito’s vision of the country in Samuel Alito’s America. [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 12:27 pmWhat this country needs is a constitutional amendment to protect privacy. This would take care of ROE, the Patriot act and other government intrusions into private behavior.
“Neither congress nor any state, agency, commercial entity, or private person shall enact any law or regulation, or impose any rule or policy, that impinges, abridges, lessens or eliminates an individual’s Right to privacy except where the welfare of a child or incompetent person is at stake.
“Additionally neither Congress, nor any state, agency, commercial entity, nor private person shall collect or disclose to any other party, including any federal, state, or local Government agency or entity, information about a private person beyond what is needed for the purpose intended.
“Any entity or private person collecting private information may be required to justify the need to collect any information to any person or group of persons in an appropriate United States or state court of jurisdiction.
“Congress shall have the power to impose criminal and civil penalties for unjustified collection or disclosure of private information.”
October 31st, 2005 at 12:30 pmIt’s … Scalito!!!
If folks thought President Bush could not do any worse than Harriet Miers, the White House worked heavily to prove that notion wrong this morning. As most of you know, President Bush announced today that he is nominating Samuel Alito as a Justice on th…
October 31st, 2005 at 12:33 pm[...] In 1997, Alito dissented in a ruling, voting against a woman who was discriminated against on the basis of race. If his views had stood, employers could have discriminated on the basis of race. Not only that, but Alito also believes in expanding police powers to conduct unauthorized strip searches. Source [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 12:36 pmBUSH = EVIL
SILENCE = DEATH
If this sack of fetid shit gets confirmed then we are all f*cked for life. The sheeple won’t start regretting it until they personally hear the click, click of the cattle cars coming to pick them up.
October 31st, 2005 at 12:37 pmSceptimus–by your logic, we’d still be living in 1789, when slavery and indentured servitude were still the nationwide norm.
Read Rich’s quoting of the Constitution for them apples:
“Neither congress nor any state, agency, commercial entity, or private person shall enact any law or regulation, or impose any rule or policy, that impinges, abridges, lessens or eliminates an individual’s Right to privacy except where the welfare of a child or incompetent person is at stake.
“Additionally neither Congress, nor any state, agency, commercial entity, nor private person shall collect or disclose to any other party, including any federal, state, or local Government agency or entity, information about a private person beyond what is needed for the purpose intended.
“Any entity or private person collecting private information may be required to justify the need to collect any information to any person or group of persons in an appropriate United States or state court of jurisdiction.
“Congress shall have the power to impose criminal and civil penalties for unjustified collection or disclosure of private information.â€
Dino and bartmooby you rule! Also, “blue secessionists”–please don’t leave us Blues in the Red States (I’m from FL) behind! Not all of us can afford to move! :(
October 31st, 2005 at 12:38 pmHahaha Snuffy Smith…you think The Chimp is going to go any higher?
You can only squeeze so much blood out of a Red State Turnip. You
think Bush can get 120% support from his “base”? Hahahaha. Soccer
Mom’s are leaving you crypto-fascists slowly but surely. And when
they get wind of Alito’s “gotta tell your batterer you’re getting an
abortion, but it don’t matter anyway cuz they’re now ILLEGAL” crap,
they’ll desert the GOP in droves. And Red Stater dopes are finally
waking up to the impacts of Bankruptsy Bills For MBNA, soaring
healthcare costs, outsourcing, etc. The GOP is SCREWING the average
person and their ignorance will only carry the GOP for so long before
they notice the screwing.
Let’s wait for the next election, shall we? Look at Santorum. VP material
in 2004, 17 points behind today. Why? Cuz he’s a conservative asshole
and Keystoners are waking up to his extremism.
Oh, and Godwin’s Law? Are you retarded? The GOP *is* Fascist. Read a
damn history book. Definition of fascism:
Exalts the nation and party above the individual, with the state apparatus
being supreme? Check (eliminationist rhetoric, Patriot Act. Forgiving GOP
for doing ANYTHING. Party above Principle).
Stresses loyalty to a single leader, and submission to a single nationalistic culture? Check (hail Bush, “with us or against us”, “better watch what you say”,
“Support Our Troops” (as long as *we* don’t have to go!), etc).
Engages in economic totalitarianism through the creation of a Corporatist State, where the divergent economic and social interests of different races and classes are combined with the interests of the State. Check (*everything* the GOP does
and stands for puts the economic interests of Corporations above individuals
and the common good. They EXHULT in it!).
Fascism is NOT Nazism. You love that the score is currently in your favor,
October 31st, 2005 at 12:45 pmbut the ‘game’ ain’t over yet and the momentum is ours. If anything, Alito
will quicken your downfall. Christ, if my aunt the 50 yr GOP voter thinks
he’s extreme, you’re toast.
#201 “Yeah, wait till she’s knocked up, doesn’t want her baby and she HAS to have it because abortions are illegal. Oh yes, they are going to get a big swift kick in their asses all too soon.”
I agree Tabby, but it won’t her that needs the abortion, because she’s obviously better than everybody else and is too young to understand how it was for women before Roe. It will take friends or relatives dying in the back alley again before these young girls start waking up. They may be anti now, but it’s a cycle that each generation is going to have to go through I guess before they start understanding the real consequences.
October 31st, 2005 at 12:52 pmAlito on abortion, searches
Already, this Alito confirmation debate is shaping up to be exceedingly dishonest and hysterical. Remember this post when you encounter the fothcoming “Samuel Alito’s America” onslaught.
October 31st, 2005 at 12:54 pmLet Alito be the next SC justice. You can only get a real hard “snap back” when the right misjudges the people and goes too far. Can’t wait!
October 31st, 2005 at 12:55 pmThat I amendment is not part of the US Constitution, I needs to be though.
October 31st, 2005 at 12:58 pm#241 SS You are not a woman and have no right to decide on what she should do about this baby. What a couple does in their bedroom is none of your business. You are totally wrong your opinion does not count at all.
October 31st, 2005 at 12:59 pm“Sceptimus–by your logic, we’d still be living in 1789, when slavery and indentured servitude were still the nationwide norm.”
How would that be possible, Michelle, when the people ratified the 13th amendment to the Constitution outlawing slavery? See, the problem with your side is you simply don’t THINK. You simply repeat whatever talking points have been handed you by the DNC, Michael Moore, Al Franken and the Hollywood left, and you’re off and running like dutiful moonbats. No, Michelle, there would be no slaverly, no indentured servitude – none of it. What there *would* be is originalist interpretations of law by the judiciary, an adherence to the principles of judical restraint, and a truly co-equal branches of government, rather than competing branches of government.
With an orignalist SCOTUS, there is at least a possibility of a return to sanity in the judicial branch of government.
October 31st, 2005 at 12:59 pm[...] From the Progress Report, we get a little snippet of what this might mean: [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 1:02 pmOk, several things…
First. Roe v. Wade is not up for grabs yet. This nomination will not overturn it and cannot. O’Connor was not the decisive vote in Planned Parenthood v. Casey (which adopted the majority of the Third Circuit’s rationale ironically, not Alito’s) which is the last big abortion as a right case. FIve Justices, Souter, Kennedy, Stevens, Ginsburg, and Breyer, will vote in favor of keeping abortion legal while four will likely not (Scalia, Thomas, Alito if approved, perhaps Roberts although who knows with that guy). ABORTION IS NOT ON THE TABLE. THe Republicans, though evil, are not stupid (yes, their electorate is largely less intelligent obviously, but their leadership hardly is outside of Bush himself) and will not take away the only thing keeping many of their legislators in office.
Second, Alito, being a strict constructionist, should be filibustered. Why they approved Scalia, I’ll never know, but he should have been filibustered as well, or defeated by the Democrats. Originalism and textualism, two related theories of constitutional interpretation, are not valid. They simply are not valid. To go through the things you see these people saying a government can do, well, its simply ridiculous. For instance, they would have to strike down any laws regarding an air force (constitution only explicitly provides for control over land and sea forces), treat women and blacks as property, and generally make up things that the founders supposedly thought in order to legislate from the bench. See “Avoiding Absurdity,” an article by Professor Staszewski, in the upcoming Indiana Law Journal issues for a more in-depth look at why textualist interpretations are merely masks for policy-making.
Third, there is absolutely a right to privacy in the constitution, and no reasonable person could say differently. Fourth Amendment anyone? And please, please, someone tell me how forcing a woman to carry a baby to term is not a seizure? Decide the abortion question on those grounds, and you’ve got a rock-solid foundation. (In fact, this rationale, if memory does not fail me, was used by either Stevens or Blackmun in Planned Parenthood v. Casey in their separate concurrences).
October 31st, 2005 at 1:03 pm#
Since the “blue†states have all the universities, key industries, and money, secession would mean that the “red†states would instantly become the third world country they really are. California and New England alone control 90% of the shipping ports. We can join a common currency with Canada and leave them with the bankrupt US Treasury.
Comment by Anad — October 31, 2005 @ 7:54 am
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Unfortunately, the “red” states have all the military bases, so we’d be pretty screwed unless we can shit a brand new Army on a moment’s notice.
October 31st, 2005 at 1:07 pmI’M MAD AS HELL… AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!
Don’cha wish?
October 31st, 2005 at 1:08 pmBugby, do you have to wear goggles to keep the spit from splashing up in your eyes as you type? Or did you get a rubber keyboard? Either way, you’re still blind, obviously, to the fact that every imagined evil you just foisted upon the GOP is, in fact, embraced by your own party. Typically moreso during election cycles, as we shall soon see when Hillary transforms herself and becomes a pro-military hawk in order to prove she’s capable of defending America if necessary. Corporatism? You don’t think the DNC has its pockets lined by corporate money, you are completely insane. Nationalism? Your since-vanquished DNC leader/hero Tom Daschle said that he and his party stood with the president “shoulder to shoulder” after 9/11, and they voted for damn near everything he asked, INCLUDING the maligned Patriot act, which acts to this day to protect your miserable waste of a life whether you want it to or not.
And you can dispense with lecturing me about what constitutes “fascism” because you yourself have absolutely no clue about what it really is. If you did you’d know the GOP is the ANTITHESIS to genuine fascism, nutcase – the GOP advocates DECENTRALIZING the government, with more power to the states. The GOP advocates LESS government control of the economy. And hysterical conspiracy theories notwithstanding, there have been free elections held for our nation’s president since 1789.
So sorry to burst your spit bubble, but you need to take your own advice – read a damn history book.
October 31st, 2005 at 1:13 pmOne of the ways that regressives have been able to rally their troops is by invoking the siege mentality – ‘we are under attack by (insert appropriate bogeyman here). We must show our resolve, and never let up until we have won.’ They maintain that they are under attack, even when they hold all three branches of government, as well as Wall Street. It’s an effective way to keep everyone in line, but it requires that you never actually win. If you get what you want, people have a tendency to celebrate, call it a day, and head home.
If the regressives manage to overturn Roe v. Wade, as well as eliminate the New Deal, many of their supporters will consider the culture war to be over. As far as they are concerned, they will have won, and it will be time to move on to something else. Some, of course, will want to continue, arguing that the work isn’t done, but, inevitably, the movement will splinter. And, inevitably, the other side, having rallied the troops by saying ‘we are under attack…’, will mobilize its supporters… and the pendulum will swing once again.
If the White House gives the regressive movement everything it wants, but organizes and mobilizes the opposition in the process, it puts its own power at risk. It must maintain, a la Orwell, a state of perpetual warfare (or a perception thereof). It must never fully succeed in achieving its goals. Otherwise, people would give up the fight or decide to start pushing different agendas. Long story short, if Roe v. Wade is overturned, the GOP risks losing power for a long time, as independents and Republican-leaners start voting Democratic in reaction to a party they see as too extreme, and in numbers sufficient to overcome the best GOP voter-mobilization efforts.
October 31st, 2005 at 1:16 pm“SS You are not a woman and have no right to decide on what she should do about this baby.”
Mary, if it comes up for a vote in a state-wide election LIKE IT SHOULD, I certainly do have a right and a say in whether a developing human life should be flushed down a toilet in pieces, or allowed to live.
And you can damn well bet I *will* vote. Try not to cry.
October 31st, 2005 at 1:17 pm“One of the ways that regressives…”
Regressives….I like that. I certainly do advocate regression – BACK to judicial sanity, restraint, and adherence to what used to be accepted principles of interpretation of law by judges. If the current state of knee-jerk, reactionary activist legislation from the bench by judges is the hallmark of “progressives,” then I am not only happy but proud to be a regressive to my dying breath.
October 31st, 2005 at 1:22 pmre: #175:
Which Dems torpedoed Miers? Miers was torpedoed by the RIGHT, for daring tospeak at a women’s rights group in 1993 and stating that Abortion just might be a woman’s own decicion to make!
The Dems just stood back and let the Right Wing destroy Meirs.
Alito is what the radical right in charge *Wants*
Dems will oppose Alito, of course.
October 31st, 2005 at 1:22 pmWe did not have a free election in 2000 nad 2004. Old Bushie stole both elections. The REPUBLICANS are such liars and so corrupt it is not funny. The Dems will take over in 2006 and 2008. Russ Feingold will be our next President and you can cry in your beer.
October 31st, 2005 at 1:24 pmSceptimus (sounds a bit like sceptic to me) – go and read the latest GAO report on the 2004 “election” if you want to make moronic statements about “conspiracy theories”.
You clearly know nothing about fascism if you think it is a matter of states rights.
The GOP doctrine of “conservatism” – i.e. limited government – is based on the Nietschean formulation of the state as the coldest of monsters. Bush and his corporate gangster friends are absoultely fascist in every sense, conscious or otherwise.
Universal fascism is the notion that the nation state must die, and that is ALL nation states. Go and read up on some of your friends in the PNAC neocon arm of the Republican party – starting with Michael Ledeen.
October 31st, 2005 at 1:29 pmMr Smith,
So you’re saying that it’s ok for conservative judges to be activists, and interpret the law as you and other neo cons see it; as long as it reflects your belief system. So what’s the difference??
I love how the neo-cons use the term “activist judges” to describe the judiciary. Who the hell are they kidding? After all, all their appointments have been non-partisan, no opinion on any issue ever, and just loves the constitution, right?
I know it’s the same on both sides, but I don’t understand why it’s either left or right. Why can’t we just have a fair, qualified individual somewhere in the middle who will uphold the law and interpret the constitution with no axes to grind? That’s just too much to ask I guess.
October 31st, 2005 at 1:31 pmIt looks like America really is AmeriKKKa. Are we in the 1800s still?
October 31st, 2005 at 1:35 pmThe notion of “judicial restraint” is akin to the nominalistic interpretation of historical documents, legal or spiritual, as “mere text”.
The only reason Republicans support this idea is because they currently enjoy majority control of congress and can the legislate federal law however they see fit.
If the shoe was on the other foot, we would soon see how quickly they would reverse their opinion on the role of Judicial philosophy in the system of checks and balances.
October 31st, 2005 at 1:35 pmSS you have no right on telling me what I should do with my body. If I wanted to have an Abortion I would have it and you could not do anything about it. Get a life you dumb idiot. Are all the RIGHT WING RELIGIOUS NUTS going to adopt these babies that are not wanted?
October 31st, 2005 at 1:43 pmDid I miss something? I thought Bush won the last election and the Constitution allows him to nominate who he wants.
Not too much comment on Alito’s background. Could it be because he is eminently qualified?
By the way, keep up your whining. It suits your ilk well.
Can’t wait for the next liberal to retire from the Bench!!!!
October 31st, 2005 at 1:44 pm[...] http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/31/samuel-alitos-america/ [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 1:46 pm#253
October 31st, 2005 at 1:46 pmright wing nuts, they be cowards. just crickets chirping regarding your pointed questions.
a-holes all of them
[...] Halitosis was running late for his Klan meeting when he decided to go ahead and disagree with the other judges that decided in favor of a Marriott Hotel manager who said she had been discriminated against on the basis of race: The majority explained that Alito would have protected racist employers by “immuniz[ing] an employer from the reach of Title VII if the employer’s belief that it had selected the ‘best’ candidate was the result of conscious racial bias.†[Bray v. Marriott Hotels, 1997] [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 1:52 pmI hope this guy gets on and the neo-cons go hog wild trashing the country. That is the only thing that will wake people up. I hope women lose the right to control their reproductive destiny. Then maybe all those stupid soccer moms who voted for Bush will wake up. I hope the corporations turn most American citizens into the lowly serfs that Americans deserve to be. Maybe then they will rise up and look for real justice. It has to get worse before it will get better. Americans have not yet suffered enough. It stinks that the idiots are dragging us down with them, but that’s the way it is. So pucker up and get ready for the party folks. Yippee.
October 31st, 2005 at 1:55 pmYes, blanket characterizations of those with different views as “cowards” and “a-holes” really does move the debate along. I am sure that many “right wing nuts” are, indeed, cowards and a-holes, as are many on the far left. So what? Debate the ideas, not the personal characteristics of the opponent.
Bravo to duhgomustend, your mother must be so proud of you, not to mention your teachers for instilling such a respect for critical analysis. You must have gone to a government school.
October 31st, 2005 at 1:58 pmHeard a great joke on the radio this morning!
Q: How is a bad lover and the Bush Administration alike?
A: They have to lie to get in and then don’t know what to do when they get there.
Ha!
October 31st, 2005 at 2:07 pmWe need to protect our Children and Grandchildren from these RIGHT WING RELIGIOUS NUTS. Our Children deserve better than this man on the Supreme Court.
October 31st, 2005 at 2:09 pm[...] >> Here’s What You Can Expect >> Time For Cheney to Come Clean >> Samuel Alito’s America >> And people need to shut up with the “Democrats need to be careful” talk. Enough of the “advice”. [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 2:11 pmYou, friends, are missing the whole point. Bush is a second term president with a Republican congress. He doesn’t care if his support is below 30%. There is, and never will be, a threat to impeach him.
And yeah, if the Supreme Court overturns Roe there will be a backlash, but by then it’ll be too late. Bush is stacking the court with strict constructionist, conservative justices who will sit on the bench for two decades or more. And, to make matters worse, Stevens is 85 and almost certainly won’t make it to the end of Bush’s term.
Put a Priscilla Owens on this court and it’s game over.
October 31st, 2005 at 2:13 pm[...] Now I don’t know if there is a parody blog out there yet about him but a good name for one would be Scalito’s Way. Here’s some information about him from the Progress Report. Sounds like a heck of a judge. [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 2:21 pm… There are GOP talky-heads ( on CNN , a ” former colleague ” of Scare-Alitos ) already yelping ” No skeletons in Scare-Alitos closet ! ” ! Hmmmm , I wouldn’t be too sure on that , fellas – remember the fellow the GOP picked to head their group , and THEN they ‘ found out ‘ he was wife-swappin’ , nekkid picture-postin’ , sex-ad placin’ ” Swinger Man ” ?!? Nope , NO skeletons in the neoconnies closets ( What’s that ? Over there , scurrying around in the dark ? Ewwww , a great BIG neocon troll – Smack it ! )Happy Halloween – Trick a neocon , it’s a TREAT !!! … ;)
October 31st, 2005 at 2:24 pm[...] Daily KOS: Samuel Alito is a MORAL DEGENERATE who strip searches little girls. Daily KOS: Scalito opposes basic family values. CBS Reporter: Is Alito sloppy seconds? Harry Reid: Alito is ‘too radical’. Think Progress: Alito would allow race-based discrimination. Attytood: Samuel Alito is a draft dodger. Chuck Schumer: Judge Samuel Alito is a divider not a uniter. Rude Pundit: Samuel Alito, Another Motherfucker For America. [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 2:25 pmHey Snuffy, I gots no “PARTY” because I’ve ALWAYS been registered
“Independent”. I don’t believe I owe allegiance to a party above my
country. I think some guys like Washington and Jefferson felt the
same way (guess you can say I’m a strict constructionist).
You really need to read what I wrote instead of reading between the
lines to prop up your fantasies. Did I *say* the Dems weren’t beholden
to Corporations? Does whether they are or are not negate my point
that the GOP embraces Corporations above all else?
WHICH PARTY has EXPANDED Government more in the last 5 years
than all other governments in US History? Limited Government my
ass. Or do you think the GOP will “start” limiting Government once
they’ve destroyed the current one? The GOP hasn’t been for
limited government since the 1930’s. What they want now is
“as huge and useless a government as possible as long as me
and all my friends prosper”.
Yeah, I’m just sooooo “protected” by the Patriot Act. You could tell
me how losing my 4th, 5th and 6th Amendment rights for no discernable
benefit “protects” me but then you’d have to kill me, right? Hahahaha.
Chump. Whacha gonna do when they come for you? I live my life every
day in NO FEAR of Terrorists. Maybe it’s because I’m not as paranoid
and hateful as you seem to be. Guess maybe *I’M* the one for “limited
government”, ie. “I don’t trust Bush and Cheney OR Hillary worth a SHIT
with the powers they’ve been given by chumps, Dem and Rep alike in the
wake of 9/11 paranoia. Perhaps you can envision a world where Hillary
has these powers, but then, dope that you are, you’ll suddenly realize
how bad they are and have an aneurysm. Me, I don’t like EITHER side
having these powers.
All we get from you jackoffs is that we’re “whining”. You just can’t
October 31st, 2005 at 2:27 pmwrap your brain around the concept that government is supposed
to be a CONSENSUS, that 100% of the people are supposed to be
listened to. It’s not supposed to be “we won with 51% so we get to
do everything we want”. If you keep thinking/acting on those terms,
you’re going to be very unhappy when the pendulum inevitably
shifts. Not to worry though; progressives won’t be as big a bunch of
bullyboy assholes as you and will try to reach consensus. You know,
like when Clinton nominated centrist, qualified jurists, cabinet members,
etc and not ideological whackjobs like the GOP *always* does. And
we’ll fix your mistakes for free too because we believe in an America
of, by and for “The People” and not some antediluvian world where the
biggest dick swinger “wins” and everyone else suffers.
Our country has just taken on step forward. It is about time a male is picked as a replacement for a woman in a high-level govermental position. I thought that’s what we were getting when our president picked John Roberts to fill Sandra Day O’Connor’s seat, but that elation was shortlived when Roberts filled Rehnquist’s position and Bush nominated a woman for O’Connor’s seat. Anyway, Thank you, George W., for redeeming yourself and for not prostrating yourself in front of the affirmative action-quota goddess. W., you chose a supreme court nominee based on ability, not gender, and, for that, I am forever grateful.
October 31st, 2005 at 2:29 pmCivil War! Now!
Scalito’s Way, LOL!
October 31st, 2005 at 2:29 pm[with spelling mistakes corrected] Our country has just taken one step forward. It is about time a male is picked as a replacement for a woman in a high-level governmental position. I thought that’s what we were getting when our president picked John Roberts to fill Sandra Day O’Connor’s seat, but that elation was shortlived when Roberts filled Rehnquist’s position and Bush nominated a woman for O’Connor’s seat. Anyway, Thank you, George W., for redeeming yourself and for not prostrating yourself in front of the affirmative action-quota goddess. W., you chose a supreme court nominee based on ability, not gender, and, for that, I am forever grateful.
October 31st, 2005 at 2:31 pmawesome post bigby!
October 31st, 2005 at 2:31 pmNow here’s the funny part – Roe V. Wade was argued and passed primarily as a right to privacy issue as such that the federal government did not have the right to intervene in a doctor’s medical decision. Last I heard, this is in line with what the Republican platform is supposed to be.
The saddest part is not the nature of the court nominee, but it does truly prove that decisions are being made by extremists representing a vocal minority that are the real puppeteers of the current administration. It’s the right-wing equivalent of having PETA run the show. *shudder*
October 31st, 2005 at 2:31 pmIt is just this kind of dishonest summarization of complex facts that will undermine our democracy. You should be ashamed of yourself for taking a case regarding the required allegations to survive summary judgment in a pre-text discrimination case and simplifying the analysis to: “ALITO WOULD ALLOW RACE-BASED DISCRIMINATION”.
How can you sleep at night when you are this intellectually dishonest? Perhaps you sleep fine as this is merely a result of a subaverage IQ.
October 31st, 2005 at 2:32 pmlet the bastard serve. overturn roe v wade and watch the GOP become the confederacy 1862
October 31st, 2005 at 2:36 pm[...] Progress for the information on Samuel Alito’s rulings) Posted by Cranky Liberal @ 4:38 pm « Previous: Vacation | Home |» [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 2:36 pmJust remember, you can love America and hate Bush. I am living proof of that. Wasn’t it a former president who said… The most patriotic thing someone can do in a time of war is question the leadership in ones country?
October 31st, 2005 at 2:38 pmIt is now time for war! Civil war in America.
October 31st, 2005 at 2:43 pmIf we had a Civil war Old Bushie would inforce Martial Law.
October 31st, 2005 at 2:45 pmRe: Posts #273 & #293 : WHAT is in your NASTY kool-aid , fellas ? #273 – Your version of ‘ justice ‘ is the SAME that Mississippi had in the 1960s ! Way to go ! And as for #293 : You’re unbalanced ( and perhaps a wee bit misogynistic , mmmm ? ) – end of story . Too much reading of the TRUTH leads freepers to hallucinations , but they like you there , so have a pleasant trip home ! Tell your neocon ayatollah the liberals said ” Happy Halloween ! ” ! … ;)
October 31st, 2005 at 2:47 pmAverage — gotta agree. Second Civil War – here we come. While our current administration is waving the American flag and supposedly spreading democracy around the world, our losers — excuse me, “leaders” –fail to remember that the U.S. is less than 250 years old. This country is still an experiment that can fail…
October 31st, 2005 at 2:48 pmHi mom!
October 31st, 2005 at 2:49 pmJesus christ! These religious nut jobs don’t fall far from the tree! Overturn the Family Medical Leave act? You would have to be some phenominal dumbass to press this issue…
October 31st, 2005 at 2:50 pm… Quick , everybody – Flip your televisions to CNN ! The reporters are b**** slappin’ Scotty LIVE , all ovah the press room ! TOO much fun , watchin’ him stutter and whine !!! … ;)
October 31st, 2005 at 2:51 pmGive em their nutjobs. What goes around comes around. Let them overrule Roe. It’s exactly what’s needed to wake up the middle 2/3 of the country. The Dobsonites can have their day in the sun. But karma is a b*tch.
October 31st, 2005 at 2:54 pmagree with all you folks. one, red staters are morons. plain and simple. at least we all can see what a nation of bible thumping rednecks will look like. maybe we will wake up and never give them another chance. wipe out the cancer. yes we blue staters should join canada with a common currency and let the red staters have their george washington, their stars and stripes, and 10 trillion in debt. those stupid bastards would take the debt as long as they get to say one nation under god in schools. notice i don’t say public schools.what a bunch of morons. ever try to talk facts with a bible thumping bushie? it all gets steered back to “gays and abortion gays and abortion”. i am not kidding. what a bunch of morons. i had to suffer living in oklahoma city for 15 months. stupidest people i ever knew. i mean the IQ of golden retrievers. this is your america now. hey everyone, be happy that in his 8 years old george will send the rep. party back to the pre-reagan stone age. it is not chic to be a republican anymore. it is a sign that you are a mental defect.
October 31st, 2005 at 3:02 pmAi! Sc-alito!
So, it’s official. Bush has nominated someone who is in the mold of Scalia and Thomas. The blogosphere is buzzing. Some juicy tidbits: Joshua Holland of Alternet thinks it’s gonna get ugly (I agree.) Alliance for Justice has a preliminary response (m…
October 31st, 2005 at 3:08 pmBush has no credibility….
October 31st, 2005 at 3:08 pmButtby,
Sweet festering jeebus, you have come unhinged, haven’t you? Here, allow me to do what your public school teachers didn’t – educate you. First, if you are in fact a registered independent, that’s not something to be proud of. If you look around our country and the world, and you still remain a registered “indpendent,” then I can only conclude you don’t an intellect developed enough to allow you to determine what ideology bests represents you. In other words, you’re still stuck on stupid.
Secondly, you’ll note that nowhere do I say or even claim that the Bush administration has lived up to core conservative principles on every issue. I am disappointed, to say the least, at our lack of a sane illegal immigration policy. I am pissed that Bush didn’t immediately dismantle the department of Education and other useless teat-suckling government monstrosities that serve no public good. But you can dispense with your phony claims to care about these things, because YOUR side’s complaint is that that government isn’t big enough. YOUR side complains that welfare programs aren’t large enough. YOUR side complains that taxes aren’t high enough. YOUR side complains that government doesn’t exert enough control over business. So you need to try to peddle your bullsh*t wholesale, because no one’s buying it retail.
Lastly, 100% of the people who voted WERE listened to, Buttboy, last November – everyone got an equal chance to vote (no hysterical conspiracy theories allowed, sorry)for who they wanted for president. Your side LOST. Now, when your side WON in 1992 and in 1996, I was grumpy about it, to be sure, but I certainly did not expect nor was I surprised when Clinton pandered to his left-of-center base, raised taxes, appointed liberals to SCOTUS, etc, etc. My side won in 2000 and 2004, and while I certainly am not opposed to Republicans in general and the president in particular listening to the opposition, they are under NO compulsion to act on anything other than the agenda that got them elected. Period, end of story. Don’t like it? You have two choices – cry, or get your side elected.
No charge for the education.
October 31st, 2005 at 3:08 pmSS you were served by bigby.
October 31st, 2005 at 3:13 pmOne can register independent, I am against paid whores of either party. You SS are an arrogant selfish sonofbitch and will surely burn in hell a-hole.
SS: “What there *would* be is originalist interpretations of law by the judiciary, an adherence to the principles of judical restraint, and truly co-equal branches of government, rather than competing branches of government.”
Co-equal branches of government? Like the severe imbalance of powers we have in Bush’s Washington? What kind of pot are you smoking because I want some! I don’t think the current government situation where we all capitulate to one political party is what the Founding Fathers had in mind! In fact, one-party rule is the VERY definition of Communism (can we call you righties “commies” now?)
Bigby got it right when he said:
“You just can’t wrap your brain around the concept that government is supposed to be a CONSENSUS, that 100% of the people are supposed to be listened to. It’s not supposed to be “we won with 51% so we get to
do everything we wantâ€. If you keep thinking/acting on those terms, you’re going to be very unhappy when the pendulum inevitably shifts.”
And it will shift.
Do we have permission to call all you guys “conservative whining crybabies” when YOU don’t get what you want from your government?
October 31st, 2005 at 3:13 pmAlito will be confirmed.
Life will go on.
Very little will change in your lives.
You guys need to get back on your meds…
October 31st, 2005 at 3:16 pm[...] None of you, and I mean NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON, knows whether Judge Alito favors strip searching twelve year olds. We do, however, have some evidence that he finds it distasteful. How do we know that? Well, not from the Thinkprogress or dKos talking points (or Senator Feinstein’s notes), but from his actual opinion: [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 3:17 pmnot too mention the inconsistencies that the Diebold machines were proven to have produced. All coincidently favoring Chimp. But SS would rather blow that off – even though the evidence is solid.
October 31st, 2005 at 3:18 pmthe 1% so called advantage can be easily attributed to this alone. Otherwise SS have the balls to call for paper trail and honest elections – do so and I will
bow to the majority. The real majority.
Please tell me that Oregon is part of the blue states. We have alot of redneck hicks, but we’ve been voting democrat for a long time! If not, I want to move to a “blue state”…I’ve got to get out of this madness that is a “so-called christian ruled country”.
October 31st, 2005 at 3:23 pm[...] Well, Prince George got bitch-slapped by the the lunatic fringe that he calls his “base” for Miers. While some could argue that the reason Miers withdrew her nomination was because she was grossly unqualified (which she is), the nomination of Samuel “Scalito” Alito shows just how willing Bush screw mainstream America by bending to the will of the radical religious right. Alito is exactly what the wingnuts have been asking for. If he is confirmed he will rule to overturn Roe V. Wade, the Family Medical Leave Act, and a slew anti-descrimination laws. It’s a chilling list. [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 3:25 pmss You have your nerve to say because you won the election you can have it your way. In the first place you did not win this election fairly. Their was alot of fruad with these diebold machines.
October 31st, 2005 at 3:27 pmThe President is suppose to be for all American not just you Nuts.
Although I agree that most republicans (at least the very right winged ones) are unreasonable in some of their justifications, however using fallies of irrelevance to “argue” isn’t going to get you anywhere. Sitting around complaining about it, although it is nice to vent sometimes, still isn’t going to change anything (and the only reason I can say this is because I’m guilty of it as well). I think the republicans (and I’m just basing this on the republicans I have encountered and the information I’ve read about what the standard republican beliefs of importance to them) either chose to vote republican based on two things. One; their parents were republican so they are as well. Two; they are scared of having someone gay live next to them, or they don’t think abortions should be a woman’s choice, or they think that stem cell research is wrong…I mean..just pick ANY topic. However, once they decide that ONE reason is enough (even if they don’t have a cogent argument as to WHY they believe what they are voting for) they automatically assume that the democrats belief the oppisite than they do so therefore they must be wrong. Consider this; even if the democrats believe the “exact opposite” of what the republicans do (which in a sense is throughly true) that provides NO evidence whatsoever that they are wrong. Using straw man fallacies, or appealing to the person are NOT cogent arguments, in fact they aren’t arguments at all. Bottom line…arm yourself with suffiencent premises for your conclusion and know WHY you believe what you believe. I honestly think that if everyone TRULY took a non-biased look at their core beliefs (unless they like knowing that the rich people aren’t losing money and they don’t care about education, the environment, or advancing medicine/science to help save lives) they would be at LEAST somewhat liberal and left-winged. Of course, I can’t argue religion, because that is outside the box of logic and certainty. Aristotle once said “the opposite of faith is certainty.” How true that is my friends, now more than ever. I hope this has offered some incite and hopefully got your wheels turning…
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Ha ha ha ha ha. I love to read political threads. The hate just exudes. You people need to figure out that you can never change the minds of the far right and the far left. People are set in their ways and will support the lesser of two evils (or dipshyts in the current world) no matter what. To all the haters: Instead or calling people names and insulting them for their opinions, try arguing YOUR case and explaining why you feel you are right. You have a right to be angry if American isn’t heading in the direction you think it is. You also have a right to be annoyed by people complaining if you think America couldn’t be a better place right now. Getting bent and insulting other people who have such a miniscule fraction in the responsibility of that direction is silly.
Now, THINKING people are idiots for what they believe in is a completely different story.
“Peace on Earth” – yeah right!
October 31st, 2005 at 3:30 pmPlease call your Democratic Senators and urge them to fight against Judge Alito with every argument, and every procedural tool, in their arsenal.
Alito is SUCH a hard-core right-wing idiolog, that, even moderate republicans will be shocked, and put off, once they learn how truly reactionary his views are.
I believe the Democrats should threaten to, and be ready to filibuster his nomination.
If the GOP then threatens to employ “the ‘nucular’ option,” Democrats should be ready to WALK OUT OF CONGRESS and refuse to participate in ANY legislation until the rights of the minority are protected.
The religious right has TAKEN OVER THE GOP. They are now spoiling for a fight with the Democratic party to complete their take over of the UNITED STATES.
Well,I say, if they want a fight, lets give it to them. We should be ready to SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN INDEFINITELY.
I think we would ultimately win this fight, because most Americans, and even the moderate wing of the Republican party, will realize that they have more in common with us, than they do with the right-wing nut jobs that have taken over the GOP, but, even if we don’t, as a party, it would be “better to die on your feet than to live on our knees.”
October 31st, 2005 at 3:32 pmI can’t believe that there are still American people who believe and trust anything this Prez and his hunchmen say. This is the downfall of our country.
October 31st, 2005 at 3:35 pmFirst – on the subject of Secession:
1) Last time this was tried, the federales invented and implimented Total War. The Blue States would be free and at peace for about five minutes.
2) The Blue States are about the only remaiing barrier to the yahoos of the Red States. We may owe it to the rest of the planet to stay in the union.
Second – Roe v. Wade
1) Its going down.
2) It will split the Republican Party. Overturning Roe v. Wade will offend the deep sense of entitlement held by the wives and daughters of our masters.
Finally – nothing short of another revolution will turn this situation around. Don’t hold your breath. We missed that opportunity around 1972. The United States is well on the way to Oligarchical Collectivism. (Read up on your Orwell.)
October 31st, 2005 at 3:39 pmSupport Alito and adopt his thought!
October 31st, 2005 at 3:45 pmClick my link and see if you agree with me on this red-state/blue-state nonsense.
October 31st, 2005 at 3:46 pmKrashkopf:
“If the GOP then threatens to employ “the ‘nucular’ option,†Democrats should be ready to WALK OUT OF CONGRESS and refuse to participate in ANY legislation until the rights of the minority are protected.”
Perhaps the Democratic party, from the chambers of Congress, all the way down to every state legislature, should start submitting proposals to amend the Constitution, guaranteeing the right to privacy. If, as the regressives are so fond of repeating, there is no explicit right to privacy in the Constitution, I’m sure they won’t mind putting one in there.
We can choose to sit around and bellyache, or we can choose to act. We must stand together, for if we don’t, we will surely hang separately.
October 31st, 2005 at 3:52 pmEvery time Bush says or does anything I know in my heart of hearts that he is RETARDED!!!!! Personally speaking I would never have an abortion, but overturning Rowe vs. Wade would be economically and socailly wrong. So many conservative Republicans have so many moral and immoral issues/sins they would like to change. But change(lower) the unemployment rate, homeless, and give the elderly gooood healthcare with lower co-payments and free prescriptions. All these politicians make rules designed to OPPRESS the poor, elederly and minorities. Did you ever think about the children that these women will have who are going to take care of them YOUR DUMB ASS!!!. Your taxes will house them, clothe them, feed them and give them free health care so forth and so on……… Not trying to hate on the rich but they could not relate to the struggles that the poor are faced with everyday. Should I take my child to the doctors or pay the electric bill. Buttom line Republicians dont give a fuck about the poor. The Bush administration has clearly stated their opinions about the immoral and sinful views about abortion. However, did any of them comment about the immoral or sinful view upon GREED, they are all guilty of that……..
October 31st, 2005 at 3:53 pmOn the other hand I totally agree that their should be a welfare reform. I am currently interning for the Department of Social Services, soooooo many people have used and abused the system some of these cases date back to 1985, I was four at that time. The program needs to be a source of income for a temporary bases unitl families can get on their feet.
“Co-equal branches of government? Like the severe imbalance of powers we have in Bush’s Washington? What kind of pot are you smoking because I want some! I don’t think the current government situation where we all capitulate to one political party is what the Founding Fathers had in mind! In fact, one-party rule is the VERY definition of Communism (can we call you righties “commies†now?)”
Homegrown, hydroponics – some seriously tasty weed. Come on over, I’ll share. By the way, you can of course call “us” whatever you want, but when the pendulum swings to the other side, typically conservatives don’t whine, they act. They start grass-roots organizations to back candidates and support issues. You know, the way the process is supposed to work? The boots on the ground for Bush in 2004, by the way – they were 99 percent volunteers. Contrast this with Kerry having to pay (bribe?) people to work for his campaign.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but more people in America consider themselves conservative than consider themselves liberal. They’ve heard what the left has tried to peddle, and they just ain’t buying.
October 31st, 2005 at 3:57 pmWe hear the left trumpeting Bush’s lackluster polls of late, but you know what we don’t hear? The approval for congressional democrat leaders is LOWER than the president’s polls…so good luck with trying to unseat those evil white republicans in 2008 – you’re gonna need it.
“Perhaps the Democratic party, from the chambers of Congress, all the way down to every state legislature, should start submitting proposals to amend the Constitution, guaranteeing the right to privacy. If, as the regressives are so fond of repeating, there is no explicit right to privacy in the Constitution, I’m sure they won’t mind putting one in there.”
Infidel, while I’ll bet we don’t agree on much politically, at least you have the intellectual honesty to recognize that there is an established amendment process when the people want to change the Constitution – this is why Roe v. Wade was such a stunning, arrogant usurpation of our individual rights as citizens by unelected judges who used their powers to essentially write a law.
I totally support the idea of such an amendment – the PEOPLE, not unelected judges, should be allowed to debate this issue openly, so that all can make up their minds about whether or not to vote for ratification.
October 31st, 2005 at 4:03 pm[...] Think Progress has a partial listing of the sort of things we can expect if Judge Alito gets his lifetime seat on the Supreme Court: ALITO WOULD OVERTURN ROE V. WADE: In his dissenting opinion in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, Alito concurred with the majority in supporting the restrictive abortion-related measures passed by the Pennsylvania legislature in the late 1980’s. Alito went further, however, saying the majority was wrong to strike down a requirement that women notify their spouses before having an abortion. The Supreme Court later rejected Alito’s view, voting to reaffirm Roe v. Wade. [Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pennsylvania v. Casey, 1991] [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 4:03 pmACLU Concerned Over Alito and Abortion
“This is a pivotal moment in our nation’s history,” said Anthony D. Romero, the ACLU’s Executive Director. “The administration is claiming unprecedented national security powers, reproductive rights are in jeopardy, the t…
October 31st, 2005 at 4:12 pmSaying that Roe v. Wade is about privacy is tantamount to saying that if someone murders someone else, and no one finds out about it, it’s legal. Come on. Think a little, people.
October 31st, 2005 at 4:12 pmStrict constructionists should be OPPOSED to any statute OUTLAWING ABORTION.
Abortion was LEGAL and AVAILABLE at the time the Constitution was drafted.
It wasn’t until 1821 that Connecticut became the first state to outlaw abortion, followed closely by Missouri, Illinois, and New York. One by one, neighboring states began to follow suit, until 1873 when abortion became a federal offense.
October 31st, 2005 at 4:33 pmThe Dems should use Alito’s opposition to the Family Medical Leave Act as proof he hates working class people.
Oh, wait, that would be too liberal for the Dems. They’ll probably roll over on this one, just like they did with Roberts. When’s Lieberman going to praise Alito?
October 31st, 2005 at 4:41 pmThe issue with this nomination is that a strict constructionist’s view of the constitution takes away the rights of individuals. This is an issue far beyond Roe v. Wade. If people understood how 5 Scalia votes would strip us of any rights, they would rise against this nominee. I want a smart judge, but who cares if he’s smart if he rips my rights away. He’s not evil, he simply has a skewed view that shouldn’t be foisted onto American citizens.
October 31st, 2005 at 4:51 pmyikes.. just give the the christian right the south and the midwest (heck, even the rocky mountain states). Split the country into two separate nations:
- One Theocracy with state-imposed christian-based religion
- One Democracy where people are free to choose their religion and beliefs
yay! everyone’s happy, let’s call it a day.
October 31st, 2005 at 4:52 pm[...] Most will look at his opinion to indicate opposition to Roe , and they should. But fundamentally, it was an opinion that was dismissive of women’s independence . [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 5:14 pmThe Opposite Of Miers
Think Progress does neither by trotting out the usual “Alito will overturn Roe, allow race discrimination, be hostile against immigrants …”
October 31st, 2005 at 5:17 pmLeft off the part about pulling legs off spiders and making kids go to school on Saturday.
And why shouldn’t he be hostile to immigrants? The U.S. doesn’t need any more immigrants.
October 31st, 2005 at 5:25 pm[...] The strip-searching of 10-year-old girls aside, it was interesting to see the Bush Administration talk glowingly about their new best friend. [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 5:28 pmHe would be the 5th Catholic. Bush’s base wants a filibuster fight.
October 31st, 2005 at 5:31 pmto all leftys and democrats,you are all welcomed to come live up in the great white north as long as you leave those red neck consevitives behind we as well have know use for them.As well we have real kick ass weed…… peace out
October 31st, 2005 at 5:35 pmWhat? Leave the US so those right wing nut bags have thousands of nuclear bombs to themselves? Forget it. Someone with a brain has to stay around to mind the store.
October 31st, 2005 at 5:42 pmSo I just read through 337 comments, and what I’m wondering is this. Don’t any of you ever get tired of trying to carry on a conversation in simplistic sound bites? I wonder if we could correlate the liklihood of a nominee being confirmed to the relative shrillness of the comments in the left and right blogospheres….
October 31st, 2005 at 5:45 pmDon Surber
They actualy sited some specific and fairly severe lapses in judicial judgement to go along with their statements. Are you saying you side with his decenting opinion in each of those cases?
October 31st, 2005 at 5:45 pmIf not how far off base do you think they are? A little, qute a bit?
The claims made were clearly based in actual decisions. I think its clear that he would overtern Roe. v. wade given the chance and I find the other opinions quite troubling.
All this split the nation red vs. blue states buissness is getting rediculus.
October 31st, 2005 at 5:49 pmThere are a lot of democrats in red states and republicans in red states. Its not going to happen and if it did it would not go the way you seem to think it would.
I like to dream to but I won’t try to pass it off as reality.
[...] Think Progress [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 6:04 pm#332 – AKA, Stop the ACLU,
The ACLU’s (American Civil Liberties Union) sole purpose for being “is to conserve America’s original civic values – the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.”
“The American system of government is founded on two counterbalancing principles: that the majority of the people governs, through democratically elected representatives; and that the power even of a democratic majority must be limited, to ensure individual rights.”
“The mission of the ACLU is to preserve all of these protections and guarantees:
* Your First Amendment rights-freedom of speech, association and assembly. Freedom of the press, and freedom of religion supported by the strict separation of church and state.
* Your right to equal protection under the law – equal treatment regardless of race, sex, religion or national origin.
* Your right to due process – fair treatment by the government whenever the loss of your liberty or property is at stake.
* Your right to privacy – freedom from unwarranted government intrusion into your personal and private affairs.”
Why would you want to stop them?
“Only those who slavishly worship success can think that effectiveness is admirable, without regard to what is affected.” – Bertrand Russell
October 31st, 2005 at 6:06 pmYes people I agree, lets just ask all those people who actually know how government works and how to run a country with nearly 300 million people, to just step down and let the hobo’s take over. Yes thats right just let those people who cant hold a job for more than two weeks and cant take care of their kids dictate how this country should run. If you think things are bad now just wait until the incompetent who complain about the so called “rich and powerful” who want to screw the little guy more than anything else, are running the show, or tather running it out of business. Who says that a world with unlimitited freedoms is best for us, maybe a little bit of self control and morals will get this country back on its feet. And by the way, a husband has the right to tell his wife whether or not she can get an abortion, its called respect people and without it well who needs marriage and laws. why should anyone be able to tell anyone what to do, lets just let the murderers and the thieves run wild because that is their right. Yay for America, get a life and grow up, the world is not about feeding your will, but about leading a good life. God bless America and god bless this administration, (they need all the blessings they can get right now) :-)
October 31st, 2005 at 6:09 pmThe only question you need to ask this guy:
October 31st, 2005 at 6:15 pm“Are you, like Scalia and Thomas, also a member of the secret Catholic Nazi-based sect called “Opus Dei”?
All about freedom but little about responsibility..
Perhaps a new word will help; “Freesponsibilidom” which of course indicates that responsibility is the core requirement of freedom. Bumper-Sticker on the way?
October 31st, 2005 at 6:21 pmSo Koby, what happened to the “keep big government out of our life” guys? Let’s see…laws that tell us what we can and can’t do with our bodies, laws that tell us who we can and can’t marry, etc. This is a regime of contradiction and hypocrisy. The same “pro-life” people who rally behind the life of a fetus will back laws that cut funds for education, social programs and family leave. In other words-the government should step in and defend the unborn. Right. We love kids…until they’re born.
October 31st, 2005 at 6:26 pmkoby,
#352, “a husband has the right to tell his wife whether or not she can get an abortion”
Then, just two lines later you say:
“why should anyone be able to tell anyone what to do?”
A persons set of moral values are their own. They do not have to be yours, and they don’t have to have any at all, if they so wish. You cannot dictate what morals everyone must live by, unless you are a fascist and live in a fascist nation.
Also, you appear to be throwing vast groups of people into one bucket and labeling them. This is called prejudice.
Do you read your posts before you post them?
“Only those who slavishly worship success can think that effectiveness is admirable, without regard to what is affected.” – Bertrand Russell
October 31st, 2005 at 6:38 pmblablabla,
#354, “Freedom isn’t free.”
That’s not true. Freedom is in fact free. It is the governments of the world, led by greed, which make you pay for it.
Freedom IS free.
“States are not moral agents” – Chomsky
October 31st, 2005 at 6:40 pmwell shercs, i must say you sort of have a point. but if we ask the government to interfere with our lives with taxes and aid then we must concede to ask them how we should live our lives. its a trade-off, the more we ask them to help us, the more we give up our own self determintation. so when we tell the government to take care of everything for everyone then how dare we tell them to but out of our lives. this is why libertarians and concervatives are against heavy government spending, not because they hate the poor and the homosexuals and miorities, but because they want to be able to live their lives free from government intervention.
October 31st, 2005 at 6:42 pmblablabla,
That’s it? That’s all you’ve got? I’m disappointed.
October 31st, 2005 at 6:43 pmblablabla,
Okay, then if freedom is not free, what is the price?
October 31st, 2005 at 6:44 pmblablabla,
Avoidance tactics? What for?
I’ll play by your rules, if you want.
If freedom is not free, what is the cost?
October 31st, 2005 at 6:48 pmStand Up America! We are fast becoming a third world country. The Bush Greed Riech must be STOPPED. THINK real hard before supporting expanding their control to the Judiciary. Today you may think its the right thing – tomorrow it will be your job, your rights, your home, your children’s life that will be lost.
October 31st, 2005 at 6:48 pmblablabla,
The price of freedom is death?
What’s the point of being born then?
October 31st, 2005 at 6:49 pmwhoa. I hate to say it, and maybe i’ve been in the classroom too long, but i think we need to chill out for a second. First of all, scalito is not going to just step in and start throwing out precedents; that’s why there are nine justices. Second, most justices tend to move left as they spend time in court.
I am seeing comments fly all over the place about issues totally impertinent to the discussion over Alito (yes, i did him the justice of capitalizing his name; just once, though). I think we’re stooping to the level of the right, and that is worse than declaring yourself republican, in my opinion.
You think in the same words you speak in. Let’s all think a little smarter.
October 31st, 2005 at 6:49 pmblablabla,
Please check 377.
October 31st, 2005 at 6:53 pmEphiphany-
October 31st, 2005 at 6:53 pmyou are the first person on this site to make some sense. Actually thats why i posted in the first place, i was so disgusted with the trite comments coming out of the mouths of those posting that i had to say something.
ps i am republican and proud
Response to 47.
A born again Christian is a person with two belly buttons.
October 31st, 2005 at 6:53 pmSorry, you loose.
Unfortunately, you are assuming that everyone shares your religious views, and of course you are wrong.
I do not believe in your “God,” therefore that argument is trumped by your inability to prove not only whether or not your statement is true, but by your inability to prove his/her (your God’s) very existence.
October 31st, 2005 at 7:03 pmblablabla,
Your scriptures where written by mortal beings, not by any form of god.
October 31st, 2005 at 7:06 pmblablabla,
Let me get this straight. Your argument for your position is that over the last few thousand years some people whom you do not know wrote down on paper what the voices in their heads where telling them, and therefore you must live your life by said voices?
What’s your definition of sanity then?
October 31st, 2005 at 7:11 pmblablabla,
Are you for real?
October 31st, 2005 at 7:13 pmIF YOU WANT A COUNTRY RULED BY RELIGION MOVE TO IRAN!
October 31st, 2005 at 7:14 pmBEWARE! THE FROG IS IN THE BLENDER!
October 31st, 2005 at 7:15 pm#396 blablabla I agree with BUSHSUCKS IF YOU WANT A COUNTRY RULED BY RELIGION MOVE TO IRAN!!!!
October 31st, 2005 at 7:20 pmAll this talk of religion. well none of you really know much about religion or the bible. you see lets start with the basics (im jewish) the torah (”old testament”) was not written by a man who heard things in his head, but if you read the torah you will note how it states that an entire nation (600,000 people)heard G-D say the same thing at the same time. are you going to tell that many people that they heard something they didnt. makes sense that it must be true. now as far as qouting some scripture and not others, the torah does not say do not kill, it says do not murder. murder is the wanton killing of a person, think abortion(debateable whetehr it is considered a soul) or gang warfare. killing however when done according to the law, such as the death penalty or in war (again debatable whether to go to war or not) is allowed. anyways back to point one, the new testament makes no claim of a revaltion to people so why shoudl anyone believe it, the same with the koran. so why are people believing the claims of one person. but do not mistake the toarh with the other two texts. plus the torah makes claims that have been historically tested, not so with the other two wich are just poetic ramblings by misguided men.
October 31st, 2005 at 7:24 pm#400 DO YOU HAVE A CRYATAL BALL? There is not going to be a earthquake. You are an idiot. Why don’t you move to China where you belong.
October 31st, 2005 at 7:29 pmA 5000 year old book says 600K people heard something, and you believe it?
Whats the difference if I were to write it?
October 31st, 2005 at 7:31 pmI hope you all understand that this 2 Americas talk is advocating Civil War?? You don’t really think that your opponents would just let those blue states (and their economies and their slaves) go without a fight peacefully do you?? I’m not saying you’re wrong or bad but just understand what you are really saying here. If you believe this then start buying ammo because the situation you are describing does seem to be on the itinerary. Looks like the South HAS risen again–even if some of them are disguised as Northerners. A new form of slavery and you don’t even have to be black. We have attained equality at last in that the greater percentage of the population will now be dominated equally. Let fiefdom ring?
October 31st, 2005 at 7:35 pmwell elvis, actually its closer to 3000 years old, and at the time it was brand new. you see my father told me this and his father going all the way back to when it happened. and noone could tell that many people that it happened to them if they didnt. unlike other religions where someone made a claim and brought it before people, who like dunces believed him, we saw what happened and wrote it down and passed it on for 3000 years and in all that time our story never changed. in the new testament everyone says something different. how many gospels there are how many apostles who each person is. not so with the torah. its one story and it sticks to it. thank you
October 31st, 2005 at 7:35 pmI agree with some of you that States need to decide more issues. But broadband civil rights issues is not one of them. Otherwise we will have situations like during the 1950’s where blacks can’t go to school in Mississippi (or women) and long-haired freaks are not allowed in Illinois and gays are not welcome in Virginia.
October 31st, 2005 at 7:38 pmHow hypocritical is the Right? Any jurist whose rulings they don’t like is branded an “Activist Judge.” But when it comes to vacancies on any court, they shamelessly and openly demand nothing less than an activist judge who is guaranteed up front to rule their way. And in their arrogance,they think the public is so stupid it doesn’t see the contradiction. Apparently, they’re RIGHT!
October 31st, 2005 at 7:44 pmreligion aside i think it is hypocritical of the republicans to demand an up or down vote when the previous nominee miers was not given such a vote. The conservative movement is a hypocritical machine whose real intentions are hidden behind religious and national propaganda. To divide and conquer that is there real agenda. The rich and the evangelicals are selfish and are the backbone of the movement they think the world revolves around them. They are not better then the rest of us but they may destroy us.
October 31st, 2005 at 7:45 pmLets hope they destroy themselves. We need to take our country back. There is going to be a big rally on November 2. The Dems will destroy the Repubs in the next election 2006.
October 31st, 2005 at 7:51 pmMy question to 413 and 414 is this. Whats the difference. each group here, right and left, are only concerened with thier will. dont think that you are so reitcheous to say that it is only the right that is concerened with thier own agenda. duh it makes sense that each party is concerned with their own agendas thats why they are seperate parties. this is a no-brainer, so i guess for those of you who read get fuzzy you must be like bukky the cat.
October 31st, 2005 at 7:55 pmFirst: The majority of you are making assumptions about Judge Alito’s opinions without ever bothering to read them. In most cases, they are quiet, well-reasoned pieces like that of John Roberts, whom I might add did not spark this kind of anger or outrage from you. i’ll also add that when Alito was confirmed as a circuit court judge, that confirmation was unanimous — with a Democratically controlled Senate, if I remember correctly, and he presented the same opinions then as he does today in terms of judicial restraint. He is *not* an originalist or textualist in the stripe that you should be afraid of or even concerned with based on the dozen opinons I have read.
Second: As pointed out by #378, justices tend to move towards the left over time, not the right. If you’ll read his opinions, I believe you’ll find that this has happened.
Thirdly: This man is at least as qualified as John Roberts. Say what you will about his beliefs, he has the resume for the job, at least with experience and intellectual capital and firepower. I will point out again that the vast majority of Democrats in the Senate voted several months ago to confirm John Roberts as CJ of the USSC without much opposition, precisely because his resume was so impressive. Also, Bush denied a great deal of papers that Democrats argued for. They still sent him to the CJ spot without a fight. You simply cannot argue that Borking this nominee is appropriate.
The Senate approved Roberts, who had less of a paper trial, but whom was suspected of this sort of thing. This nominee has the resume of Roberts (or at least massive amounts of judicial experience).
In conclusion: save the firepower. Alito will *not* overturn Roe. Roberts most certainly will not — again, read the previous discussions of how he views stare decisis. Abortion should not be the flash point anyway.
As a previous poster noted, corporate rights are the real problem here (and executive privelege) — Hamdi v. Rumsfeld anyone? The gov’t has no right to hold American citizens in they have. (Now, I for one would love to open a debate on the circumstances wherein citizenship can be forfeited and/or revoked. I’m not one for the grant of automatic citizenship upon birth — at least, not if the parents are not US citizens or residents.) You want to get angry, get angry over THOSE issues.
This arguably created a “Roberts standard” whereby a nominee would need to be at least as qualified as he. Miers was not, and the Republicans destroyed her for at least that reason. Again, Alito has the resume for the job.
As a side note, I would agree with some posters that this particular tactic (throw a sop (e.g. a woman) to the centrist elements, then have it fail, and put up the real nominee) is probably what happened (after all, Miers had FORTAS written all over her from the moment she was nominated). That being said, we should all be thankful that we didn’t get Luttig, who would be worse.
Also, be thankful we didn’t get McConnell either.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:03 pmAnother mistaken bible quote. gold was the standard for making idols so this makes sense. its not the gold but the representative image. second the CALF, not lamb, was destroyed. it was burnt and those hebrews who helped lead the rebellion (as it was) were forced to drink a solution of the ash of the burnt golden calf and water. this killed them. not end of story everyone who participated (all 600,000 minus 2 (moses, joshua and caleb) were killed before the jews entered israel after 40 years in the desert. moses too died right before this but that was for something else.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:11 pm#400. Just for the record, I believe you are eleven eggs short of a dozen. Don’t worry though, I’ve been told Thorazine works wonders for that sort of thing. I’m a moderate, but I have voted Republican in the past (before the previous instances of incompetence popped up), and your rantings only serve to drive people from the right, just as people ranting about Jewish and neocon cabals serve to drive people from the left.
On a separate note, he is unfortunately right: we are due for some serious earthquakes. USGS shows >50% probablity of massive quakes in at least LA and SF, and probably Sea-Tac (Juan de Fuca plate and all that) in the next 30 years (let’s not forget Puget Sound focuses tidal waves wonderfully). The red states are not immune: should New Madrid go, the US heartland will be reeling, and the Mississippi will be re-routed, and New Orleans will simply cease to exist, as will St. Louis and Memphis (former floodplains, like fill dirt, liquify under earthquake conditions). People scream about hurricane prepartions — don’t worry about those, they can be compensated for removing federal flood insurance, moving people (and houses) off the beaches, and enforcing truly tough construction standards (note that, for example, homes built in Florida after the 2003 revisions to the building codes didn’t even lose shingles to the most recent hurricanes)(if you put enough staples and/or nails through it, it really won’t go anywhere…). Earthquakes — well, let’s just say that retrofitting all the major structures in the heartland isn’t on anyone’s agenda. That’s the next big thing. I’m waiting — the other shoe will fall eventually (I’m guessing
October 31st, 2005 at 8:14 pmVery interesting place, ThinkProgress. Read all 420 comments. About 419 of them belong on NonThinkNonProgress. I suspect all the comments were written by one spaced-out chomskey freak.
Happy Halloween,
October 31st, 2005 at 8:31 pmDave, just one upped us. Get back to Rush Limpdick, Michael “the closet fag” Medved, Michael “the heeb homunculus” Savage, Bill “loofah” O’Lielly,, Ann “the man” Coulter, Sean “the Irish ape w shoulder pads” Hannity, Matt “the deviant self hating fag” Drudge,etc. etc.They have much better and informed things to say. NOT!. A Who’s Who in high functioning retards. Sorry, high functioning retards.
October 31st, 2005 at 8:49 pm[...] I can’t believe I’m going here but here a few patitions if you feel the sameway. http://www.moveonpac.org/stopalito/ http://www.savethecourt.org/ http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/31/samuel-alitos-america [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 8:56 pmAlso — all of you who oppose Alito. You want the Roberts standard, then? That the nominee must be exceptionally qualified, have argued cases before the Supreme Court before, be respected by the entire legal system, even by his opponents? I’ll be happy to give it to you. Just please remember that for future use. When we gain power in 2008, that standard applies to us, which will drastically limit the nominees that we can put forward and thusly have them be credible.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:05 pmEach State Should Secede From The Union And Maybe We Can Start Over. When Its All Done You Will See More Blue Then Red.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:08 pmWhile womens’ rights to choose is indeed important, all civil and personal rights are under the gun with this nomination. I still cannot understand how so many Americans could have voted for Bush for the 2nd term. If there were not so many good folks out there I would say American deserves what they are getting by having this dangerous man in charge.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:13 pmAll rights? Well, not quite, at least not those of corporations and the executive branch.
Why did we vote for him? Well, perhaps because a) his opponent was a virtual clone, leaning about a hair’s breadth more to the left, and simply put, he had too much of a track record. There’s a historical lesson about nominating presidental candidates from Congress, and the Democrats chose to ignore it. They gambled and they lost. Finally, there are issues about switching horses in mid-stream and all that. Many people worried about the signals it would send to switch leaders at such a tender time (remember, we were still somewhat under the influence of 9/11 and the Duelfer report and all that had not yet emerged completely.)
October 31st, 2005 at 9:17 pmThis is why the majority voted Bush into office. It is about time he did the right thing, showed some balls and stop trying to not upset the liberals. Alito’s America as you put it,is the majority of this country’s America. These are the things that the majority wants and majority rules.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:26 pmLook, I’d never heard of Alito before recent events. I’m a pretty liberal democrat, war critic, and particularly displeased at the Roberts nomination.
But the Doe vs Groody case, I read Alito’s dissent. I read another one of his dissents today.
Unless he was simply lying, his dissent in Groody seems fair, if wrong.
The question hinges on whether the cops fairly read a warrant and affadavit, attached by a staple, as one document or not. The majority details how it would have been proper if the warrant either referred to the affadavit in the appropriate places, or didn’t mention it at all. Instead, the warran referred to the affadavit, but not where it referred to who and what was to be searched.
But the plain text of the affadavit would lead a police officer, not trained in constitutional law, to see the phrase “The search should include all persons in the house” in a document signed by a Judge, stapled to a warrant, which referred to this affadavit, as valid.
In any event, this was never a case about strip searches, or expanding the right to strip search.
It was _only_ about the relationship between the warrant and the affadavit.
Depicting it otherwise is unfair.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:37 pmThe Bible and the Torah; 2 books with only fragmentary pieces of text written by many different authors during their early history. Alternate versions with subtle but different interpretations of words and meanings were commonplace during the early history of these two books. But when Gutenberg’s printing press was invented in the early middle ages, it meant that copies of the books would become available to the masses for the first time. It was at this time that certain “accepted” translations of the texts were ageed upon, especially in regards to the bible. These texts conformed to the social norms of the times – medieval serfdom, blind obediance to authority, God as a wrathful punishing avenger of sin, the low status of women and Jews, etc. Other more egalitarian and revolutionary texts were jettisoned as well as different versions of the gospels and the new testment. Strange how God changes so much from the old to the new testament and how the women in the new testament have so much more stautus. So to all you religious fanatics out there (thinking of you, blablabla) I can only say: how do you know you’re reading the true word of God ? Have you looked at and read the Dead Sea scrolls or other early original forms of the 2 books ? Can you read Aramaic or other Hebrewic languages that the 2 texts were largely written in ? For all you know you could actually be reading the handiwork of Satan.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:41 pmThe Majority is the American that are not the RIGHT WING RELIGIOUS NUTS OF OUR COUNTRY.
October 31st, 2005 at 9:43 pm[...] The Left has had a long time to build up ammunition, so it’s going to take a while to knock it all down. ThinkProgress has a nice list of Liberal Lies we can start with. [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 9:48 pmCAN ANY ONE TELL ME — IS HE ANOTHER ONE OF THE GANG FROM YALE’S SCULL AND CROSS BONES?
October 31st, 2005 at 10:00 pmMany of the conservative types are Just wanna be’s. They want to identify with the rich, but in reality, they merely support the elite by voting for the Bush/Chaney types. They reap none of the benefits, all while selling out the future of their grandchildren with these huge deficits and weakening of civil rights of the average person. Those who profess to be Christians and support Bush are also a hoot. The conservative platform of pro gun, anti gay, pro war, death penalty, anti minority, etc. is so un-Christlike in nature.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:01 pmi’ve read the news article with interest. my first duty is to research the cases cited to my satisfaction. at the same time, i hope we see more reports from various sources. ever since bok, all citizens must rely upon their discretion and decision-making abilities.
we, after all, talking about an accomplished jurist in the 3rd circuit. he should receive respect in any review regardless of what the reporter believes might be significant. readers: caution and reflection first before writing to your senators. the 1st nominee was okay!
October 31st, 2005 at 10:08 pm#454. You really think so, huh? Quite a lot of us are moderates, and don’t fit that label. You can easily be pro-gun (e.g. the poor, downtrodden people of Brazil, who rejected by two-thirds majority vote a ban on personal firearms), pro-war and pro-gay (see for example Andrew Sullivan and a thousand other commentators), pro-death penalty (when properly administered, *not* like the farce in, say, Arkansas, see Clintons 1 and 2 as examples of that), and pro-abortion (see Feingold and McCain). It’s really truly easy to do, and your head doesn’t explode (you should try it). Also, the above listed individuals and populations can hardly be termed anti-minority (and America isn’t, either, since whites will be a minority very soon).
Great job constructing a straw man. Really. Ad hominem attacks are also so convincing, as they seem to be in vogue around here. You act as conservatives (which are *not* synonymous with Republicans) are caricatures.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:12 pmFinally, Northern J, your facade of enlightenment is just that — a facade.
A liberal is a conservative who hasn’t been mugged yet.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:13 pmObviously GW can’t claim he’s the “most qualified”, he already said that about Hariet M. Again , he picks a second best to fill an important roll in our nations history. Gotta get the Dems back in majority or close to a majority to keep the ballance of power balanced.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:24 pm[...] So it’s some guy named Samuel A. Alito for the Supreme Court this time. Again, he’s not Wapner, so I won’t pretend to be able to offer any substantive criticism. But after a brief review of his career highlights (courtesy of what passes for the left-wing conspiracy these days) I feel comfortable that he will get the hand of the State out of the public arena, and let it return to fondling 11-year-old girls as the Founders intended. [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 10:28 pm#459. I believe that, properly, by your school of thought we’re all already dead (from original sin) anyway. As they say, in the long term we’re all dead.
But on a more practical note — everyone here cloaks themselves in superior morality and are smug in their safe, protected citadels. I know the truth. That cloak is a thin facade that will crumble easily. The shattering of illusions is painful, directly proportional to the magnitude of the illusion so shattered.
The world is tribal and human beings are primal. It is Hobbesian to the core, and the denizens of this place and others like it believe we have evolved beyond this. When that illusion is shattered, they become scared and lash out (witness Afghanistan and to a lesser extent Iraq). That was only 3000 dead and few hundred billion in economic loss.
The loss of hundreds of thousands of lives will peel the thin veneer away like the wind from a blast will peel away a building’s facade, leaving its true core. That core has not changed. And those inhabitants herein will cry louder than those on the right for blood, because they will no longer be rational — their world of safety, transnational progress, human evolution, and the like, will all be destroyed. When you believe, fundamentally, that the world is a good place and the humans are innately good, and that is shattered, the need to destroy will be greater than anything in human history. And we have unprecedented and unparalleled capabilities to bring to bear on the task.
Those of us who accept that the world is truly nasty and brutish will, ironically, be the sole voices that might restrain the scared and hapless, but more likely than not that be the ones planning and executing the vengence that the angry, scared inhabitants demand, for they are the only ones who can. And then when the inhabitants finally wake from their murderous rage, the first target will be those who helped them execute it, regardless of whether or not they counciled restraint. Their own self-loathing will lead them to destroy everything around them (as they are presently doing, albeit in slow motion).
October 31st, 2005 at 10:33 pm[...] Link [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 10:34 pmI would like to know if my 13 year old kid is going to have an abortion. Does that make me a conservative or just a concerned parent? I agree with a womans right to chose but should we also have the right to know what is happening to our children?
October 31st, 2005 at 10:43 pmI AM SO MAD. WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE DEMS? WHERE ARE THEY? WHY DON’T THEY TAKE A STAND ON ALL OF THIS OR WERE THEY BOUGHT OUT BY THE BUSHIES? AND WHY ISN’T THERE ANYONE IN CHARGE OF THE DNC????
I AGREE THAT EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THE REPS IN THE U.S. ADOPT A BABY, EVEN IF IT WAS THE CHILD OF A RAPE OR DEFORMED OR MENTALLY CHALLENGED BECAUSE THE MOTHER USED DRUGS OR DRANK OR HAD HIV. WHERE IS YOUR “CHRISTIAN CHARITY”?
I ALSO THINK THAT MOTHER NATURE IS GIVING BACK TO US WHAT WE DID TO HER.
I ALSO HATE THE “HOWDY DOODY” ADMINISTRATION WITH ALL MY HEART. I HAVE LIVED THROUGH THE NIXON YEARS AND THAT WAS A WALK IN THE PARK COMPARED TO THIS. I AM SURE THEY WILL MAKE A MOVIE (OLIVER STONE TAKE NOTE) ABOUT THIS ADMINISTRATION IN ABOUT 10 YEARS PROVIDING WE ARE ALL STILL HERE AND WE ARE NOT LIVING LIKE THE “HANDMAID”. IF ANYONE HAS NOT SEEN THIS, PLEASE RENT IT, IT IS OUR FUTURE IF WE DO NOT DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT NOW, LIKE VOTE. OF COURSE WE HAVE TO GET RID OF ALL THE PEOPLE AT THE POLLING PLACES AND THE STATE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN CHARGE OF THE VOTING MACHINES, ETC.
AND WHAT THE HELL IS A “CHAD” AND WHY DO THEY EXIST?
IN MY UTOPIAN WORLD I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ALL CORRPUTION GONE, ALL PORK-BARREL PROJECTS GONE, GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, INCLUDING THE HOUSE AND SENATE AND EXECUTIVE BRANCH, LIVE ON THE SAME WAGES THAT MOST AMERICANS LIVE ON, HAVE NONE OR NEARLY NO HEALTH BENEFITS, INSTEAD OF MY TAXES PAYING FOR THEM. NO FREE RIDES ON MY TAX DOLLARS, NO JUNKETS ON MY TAX DOLLARS, WAIT – AM I ASKING FOR TOO MUCH? HAVE A PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT WHO HAVE NO TIES TO BIG MONEY, BUT I AM DREAMING AREN’T I? I WOULD LOVE THAT ALL AMERICANS HAVE HEALTH CARE, HAVE A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS, HAVE FOOD ON THE TABLE, HAVE GOOD EDUCATION, HAVE A DECENT-PAYING JOB, NO VIOLENCE, NO GUNS. BUT THAT IS MY UTOPIAN DREAM.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:46 pmFellow posters, and poster #38;
I, too, feel your frustration with the tactics of
October 31st, 2005 at 10:46 pmthe right-wingnuts AND the response of the American population. Seems too many of us are just, as you say,
vegging out watching TV or pursuing mindless activities
rather than working to improve their country. Being a
citizen with a conscience is a right, and a battle to
overcome dark forces who threaten to take over our democratic nation.
The Repugs have succeeded in hypnotizing the masses
away from believing they have rights and deserve to keep them. Suddenly, caring about the community became declasse, and more hip to become a puppet of the free-market capitalist system for too many of the crucial segments of our demographic who should never have turned away from the fundamental rights TO become the budding capitalists to which they had evolved. Their climb to “success”, at least in many of their views, were simply a knee-jerk reaction to the wonderful world view provided by the Great Communicator
, Ronald Ray-Gun.
Anyone else who missed the boat, subsequently, were simply dropped from their social circles, and most tellingly, from the eyes of policy makers as well.
I know how it feels to have that helpless grip in your stomach that the GOP will summarily overtake this nation and rend their will and power over us all.
I, too, have also pondered, “Yeah, let the GOP’ers
get their wish. Let’s see what kind of country we turn into when they finally get Roe v. Wade eliminated. Suddenly, GLAD trash bags will fly off the shelves to women who “choose” to dispose their unwanted babies into dumpsters in rates never seen before. Sanitation companies will probably have special training to teach their employees for signs of disposed fetuses and what to do when they find one. Or probably many, as I predict. Employees will be needing counseling as well.
For all those so-called Christians who bray how much they want to adopt all those unwanted chidren, soon the bloom will be off the rose, and they will either dispose or desert them back into the system, and refuse to have another abandoned child into their home ever again. Soon, our country will resemble Slobovan’s Romania, and orphanages will sprout like so many Wal-Mart Superstores around the nation. Obviously, domestic violence will skyrocket, and for those lurid cases we hear such as Scott/Laci Petersons’ will be as common as crabgrass.
Women will no longer have to be certified schizophrenics (and probably themselves as well) will commit acts such as the mom in San Francisco who threw her whole family off the bridge into chilly waters to their deaths. Passers-by will simply shake their heads and mutter, “There goes ANOTHER one”, and just move on.
Working women (those lucky enough to still have a job)
will begin to smuggle their children into the workplace in droves, and will have to, in some cases, commit unspeakable acts (like maybe, having to sleep with the boss) in order to keep said jobs or face destitution.
And, of course, the religious groups themselves will
fall over themselves trying to keep up with the spiraling results of the laws they themselves put into action. Soon, THEY will be overcome and exhausted by the sheer volume and ceaseless numbers of the “poor” they had initially vowed to service and protect. And, inevitably, they too, will eventually collapse from the strain. From their lips will be heard, “Gosh, I/we never knew HOW HARD this was going to be”. And those of us who had been feverishly trying to pass on the message will simply have to reply, “Hey, we tried to tell you, and you didn’t listen. So now, YOU’RE stuck with the problem we were trying to solve, while you’d created a monster. What do you have to say for yourselves NOW?” I live for the day that that may transpire, just to witness that dialogue in the not-so-far future. I’ve already instructed my adult teen daughter that she may be facing a lifetime where many of her female friends will comprise of a number of
unwilling moms who will not be able to exercise their rights if they are faced with an untenable situation. So far, my daughter has not had this problem herself, but the world still awaits.
This country will start to resemble a Third-World nation, and the Repugs will not be able to shield it from their middle and upper-class supporters. It will not be a pretty sight. The whole country will resemble those of Katrina survivors, rambling from place to place, trying to accommodate their growing families, or just picking up the pieces (or just trying, anyway) to salvage their lives after a traumatic “non-choice”
I hope this nightmare never becomes a reality, but the happenings currently point to that end. Just pray that God or a Higher Power intervenes.
you people are so deluded. you hate republicans so much, its not about politics anymore. since when did progressives become the party of hatred and maliciousness? as a red stater, i would be MORE than happy to “secede” from the pompous assholes that comment here. your great 28 seems smart, huh? well about two weeks and fifty social experiments later, you will see that without tradition, without custom, you will crumble. you are so eager to scoff at the beliefs of the ancestors that came before you, the ones that have existed for thousands of years, just because you got the freaking internet. WAKE UP. you laugh at christians because we believe in something that has existed for generations. who are you to discredit it without a second thought, just becuase you have celebrities on your side? you laugh at red staters because we think differently from you, we have different values and traditions. so if you are such a group of Progressive and tolerant people, then why do you sneer at southerners and midwesterners. and remember, geniuses, while you claim to be enlightened, you should know that the truly wise don’t strut around putting people down and elevating themselves on the basis that they voted for john kerry.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:55 pm#466 — point made.
October 31st, 2005 at 10:55 pmYou two can just thank whatever “Higher Power” you believe in for the creation of anti-psychotic medications. Now get yourself to a doctor and try some…
October 31st, 2005 at 10:59 pm#470 — you’re correct. They also won’t have a military. After all, the majority of the ground forces (and military generally) come from red states. We also have the largest percentage of military equipment manufacturers and military stock.
Let the blue states go. I can assure you that the red states (other than New Madrid) have taken their licks already — it’s the Blue states that will suffer the most in the next few years. Climate change problems? Oh yes. But California will dry up before that — imagine California without water imports from red states! Oh yes, let’s not forget about all those earthquakes that are due over the next few years, or perhaps all those nice, dormant volcanos in the Pacific Northwest, since the Rockies insulate the rest of the country from that nonsense. Also, lets not forget that the majority of relief in the country for big disasters still comes from private charities, not the government. I don’t know if California will open its homes like the rest of the country (mostly red states) did post-Katrina. Sustained relief efforts require some motivation other than simiple compassion. The religious who believe that it is their duty to serve and help their fellow man fit that description well. Except that the blue states are evolved, semi-secular paradises. They have very soft underbellies.
October 31st, 2005 at 11:06 pm[...] Perhaps the most egregious slur is this one: ALITO SUPPORTS UNAUTHORIZED STRIP SEARCHES: In Doe v. Groody, Alito agued that police officers had not violated constitutional rights when they strip searched a mother and her ten-year-old daughter while carrying out a search warrant that authorized only the search of a man and his home. [Doe v. Groody, 2004] [...]
October 31st, 2005 at 11:20 pmTo Sara: Hey girl you talk “Christian” but what about what Jesus talked about the poor, rendering onto Caesar that which is his and God the rest? Do you think that us liberals are not Christian? JESUS was a LIBERAL and that’s what got him killed. He threw the MONEY CHANGERS out of the temple, not the HOMOSEXUALS! He accepted sinners and made them whole and cured. But mosstly who created our CONSTITUITION?… LIBERALS!!!
October 31st, 2005 at 11:23 pmi never said that liberals weren’t christian, i know too many to think otherwise. BUT when you say Jesus was liberal, it only brings politics into religion. POLITICS AND SATE ought to be SEPARATE and i don’t want a theocracy. i dont want to force jews to accept christ. i dont want to force public school kids to pray and i dont care about intelligent design in school either. Jesus cared for the poor and so do christians, democrat or republican. but dont forget, Jesus also underscored tradition, daily prayer, fasting, etc. He didnt come to earth to tell us “if it feels good, do it.” he did, believe it or not, preach a bit of fire and brimstone. its not pleasant for liberals to associate Jesus with this, but there are consequences for evil actions. read the Bible sometime, you will see what i am talking about. He showed anger and disappointment at sinners and hypocrites.
and don’t get me started with the forefathers being liberal! i am sick of hearing libs claim Jesus and Washington for “their side.” neither was liberal, just as neither was conservative. the forefathers were bipartisan, they did what was necessary to build the country and didnt drag personal politics into it. so dont claim people for your side, it is childish.
October 31st, 2005 at 11:37 pmThe funny thing about George Bush and his “conversations with his God” are, it’s HIS GOD not MY GOD he talks to. And if this were back in the 1500’s to 1700’s he would be labeled a heretic by the church and burned at the stake for some of his bizzaro remarks about how God told him to go to war.
I guess all that coke he snorted in college really f*’d up his head. God talking to him my a**!!!
October 31st, 2005 at 11:38 pmDarrel, cluetime m’boy…America is not about Majority rules, nor should it be…One role of the supreme court is to make sure that the minority in this country isn’t unfairly stomped on by the majority. At various times in our history the majority thought that blacks were the property of whites, that women didn’t have the right to vote, and that child labor was perfectly peachy with them.
October 31st, 2005 at 11:41 pmAnd the states rights arguments…slippery slope there. How far do we go with states rights, then? I mean give that some thought…what kind of country do we really want to live in? I really want to hear a conservative thoughtfully answer this one for me. Do you want to live in a country where there are 50 different rules for how businesses should operate, or 50 different rules for what constitutes adequate education for our children? How about 50 different rules for what is considered to be civil rights for people, or even more amusing 50 different standards for safety with regards to our food, water and air? I’ve heard some people of the libertarian bent say, “yeah, that’s fine, give us all that freedom and let the government get completely out of our lives….great…wonderful. and while we’re at it, let’s have a wonderful pipe dream and imagine that everyone who doesn’t like living in one state will be happy and free to pack up and leave and live where they want to. Yeah, let’s be 50 divided anarchic states of America. I *can’t* wait.
Sara wrote: you people are so deluded. you hate republicans so much, its not about politics anymore. since when did progressives become the party of hatred and maliciousness?
The rupubs of today are NOT the conservatives of decades ago. What you have now are nothing but facist bible thumping, war happy, neocons who bow down to the jesus freaks to get the vote. They want control of you and everything else. Read the damn PNAC for crissake. They planned a NWO New world order BEFORE Georgie W even got into office. Stop watching FOX news….
October 31st, 2005 at 11:44 pmBill, as a conservative, I will take up the challenge and thoughtfully reply to your point.
Would you agree that Texas and New York are different? Only an idiot would not see this. Texas was a member of the Confederacy. It is heavily populated by Mexican Catholics who come across, as well as by southern rural whites. New York is a melting pot, with probably more liberal ideas than Texas. They differ drastically in geography, climate, population, and history. All in all they are different worlds altogether. Where, then, is the sense in forcing both of them to accept the same laws? If people in Texas want abortion banned, or if they want the marriage age to be young, why not allow them this? I mean, you are all about choice, right?
And the wonderful thing about states rights is that not all states are as drastically different as Texas and New York. Chances are that Texas, Alabama, and Mississippi all see eye to eye on a majority of issues, same as NY, Massachussetts and California probably agree on each others ideas. So your’re not necessarily getting 50 dissenting opinions, but more like 5 or 6, as regions tend to agree with each other (Midwest and South, Northeast and West.) It is handy in that it lets people have a choice, rather than forcing your own opinion on another state.
October 31st, 2005 at 11:53 pmTabby, I have three words for you- where’s your proof?
October 31st, 2005 at 11:57 pmThe bigger question to ask every SC candidate is :
“What is your position on corporate personhood since it was given as a error of the clerk of the court in the 1800’s?”
Screw the corporatist court nominees they don’t believe that this constitution of ours means “we the people” rule not “we the corporations”.
November 1st, 2005 at 12:05 amSara – get a clue. Tabby is dead-on!
Alito is horrifying.
And to the smart-ass who suggests we split America. Fine. The Blue states support the Red states anyway. Might as well cut the dead-weight out.
November 1st, 2005 at 12:20 am[...] Think Progress has similar concerns to Kos, and gives us their view of what Samuel Alito’s America would look like, while Eric Muller discusses the White House’s talking points on Alito’s record and laments that Bush didn’t pick a woman (besides Miers) for the post. [...]
November 1st, 2005 at 12:41 amdo you people have NO lives?
November 1st, 2005 at 12:42 amThe sky is falling, the sky is falling!!! Damn, guess I’ll just piss my pants and make completely unreasonable arguments that have no basis in fact or reality for a while…
November 1st, 2005 at 12:51 amengineer,
Your ignorance of climate change is as overwhelming as your ignorance of everything else. Climate change will likely devastate the ‘red’ midwest and southeast with a combination of droughts and hurricanes. Lets also not forget that one of the largest earthquake zones is the new madrid fault through tenn. & missouri. Clearly your ‘delusion’ about a world of red state dominance stems as much from your ‘anxious masculinity’ as it doesn’t come from ‘engineering’ or climatology. Wake up you idiot.
November 1st, 2005 at 1:06 amThis neocon hates America and that is the bottom line.
All Bushie appointee’s hate America, its nothing new.
Fillibust the neocon, he’s a worthless traitor.
November 1st, 2005 at 2:55 amLets not forget that the republican party is now controled by a failed left wing extremist group from the 70s when they tried to take control of the democratic party so they moved to the extreme right and with the help of hypocrites like falwell, dobson. robertson and others like them they managed to gain control. They are not conservatives but neocons and if you do a search you will find that their basic agenda is world domination by force if nesacery and they don’t promote smaller governmet as you can probably tell by the deficits. They are all about power and they don’t care how they get it either as long as they or their kids don’t have to go to war. Hopefully the true conservatives will take back their party in the next two elections and the democrats need to do a major house cleaning themselves so that we again have a government that works for the people ad not for special interest groups. I think that enough moderate republicans are tired of awol bush and his draft dodging administration that Alito will not get confirmed even if frist decides to go with the nuclear option. I wonder if Alito is another of awol bush’s draft dodging friends?
November 1st, 2005 at 3:03 amDefinitely a better choice than Harriet Miers, don’t you think? Remind me to write up a ready-made list for this anti-right wing nonsense some time – it’ll save the Democrats a lot of time…
November 1st, 2005 at 4:34 amI, too, would rather have two countries than see the United States of America become a friendly fascist stronghold.
November 1st, 2005 at 6:26 amLet’s call this nomination like it is:
November 1st, 2005 at 7:24 am“judicial activism”…a term the right reserves for the left.
All of you just to the left and right of center unite.
I, for one, am tired of the whiney, woe is me, I am entitled far left and disgusted by neocons and right-wing evangelicals who believe they should rule this country and the world because the rest of us are too stupid to think for ourselves.
I believe we might just be “the silent majority”. It is time to stand up and be heard.
sidenote: read Howard Zinn’s article in the current issue of Progressive magazine…it is food for thought!
As one viewing this from outside of America,
I’d be interested to see the results of America being split into two.
Personally, I view myself as centre-left/left-leaning in politics (I try to take the side of whatever’s best for humanity instead of what’s best for MONEY), so I’d live on whatever side DIDN’T have Bush or his cadre.
Someone – was it Sara? – was saying something about The left being the party of the hateful. Well, I can say that it’s a response against a fascistic government that threatens to force its views that not everyone agrees with – and they include the imbalance of harm and money – not only on their own country, but the rest of the world.
I don’t hate every republican. Not all of you vote republican because of Bush’s “Foreign Policy” (HAH!) of waging war on anyone he disagrees with in order to get their property (OIL!).
Some of you vote that way because of “tax cuts for the rich” (which will eventually ONLY help the top 10% of you, so that wasn’t such a bright move), or because they used to be a good party (a long, Long, LONG time go. The guy after Lincoln may have been the LAST good republican. The party’s CHANGED, folks! Now it’s just the party of old rich folks who, pretending to live by the tenets of “Al-mah-ty JAY-SUS”, are actually betraying any good that he may have stood for with their lives of corruption and greed . Get used to it!), or because “you vote that way just like your daddy did before you” (THINK FOR YOURSELVES, people!), or because of a knee-jerk reaction to terms like “security” and “Terrorism”
(how many of you elephant-voters realise that bin Laden was trained and funded by the US? Or that Saddam had NOTHING TO DO WITH the WTC? Or that Saddam was actually given the red light to kill Kuwaitis? Or of the existence of the Iran Contra Scandal? Security my a$$! If your government really cared about that then why’d they train up people who hate human life so much, and then treat them like s**t afterwards, in the mistaken belief that they wouldn’t bite the hand that feeds them? Oh, and NEWSFLASH…with regards to 9/11, SADDAM DIDN’T DO IT! And Osama and Saddam AREN’T FRIENDS! In fact, the only thing that unites them now is that Bush is a warmongering idiot who wants both of them DEAD, and that BOTH have worked in the interests of Uncle Sam at one point or other).
No, I don’t hate every republican. But I DO think that you’re misguided.
And Alito is a TERRIBLE choice for a Supreme Court Justice.
If you split the country, I also want Schwarzenegger out of California. Squeeze him – and all the other right-wingers – off the face of California like a schoolboy squeezing his pimples in the morning.
November 1st, 2005 at 7:29 amIf Arnie wants to relive his nazi roots (I believe it’s his father who was an actual bona fide BROWNSHIRT!), then he should go with his buddies “Shrub” and Cheney in the Republican party, and let
the actual HUMANS live there in peace.
My wife thinks that President Bush reminds her of cartoon characters. She is right! No wonder it is hard for folks, to include his goofy moral majority base, to take him seriously. During his speeches and tours, I feel embarrassed for him given his true background. For example, when he dresses up like a soldier and when he salutes troops – he failed to serve!
November 1st, 2005 at 7:39 amI would like to know how Old Bushie can SALUTE THE MILITARY because he went AWOL?
November 1st, 2005 at 7:44 amWhen’s the revolution??? I am so tired of this regime in power. I can’t believe they were going to impeach Clinton for having sex, but they won’t do anything about Bush killing thousands of people…wrong war, Katrina, etc… and he said Hussein was bad…
November 1st, 2005 at 8:01 amStriking down Roe v. Wade is an idea who’s time has come. May Alito’s confirmation be quick and decisive.
November 1st, 2005 at 8:25 amAnother thought. If we split the country, and call all of the “Red States” Jesusland, what do we call the “Blue States”? Land of Godless Abomination?
November 1st, 2005 at 8:27 amShouldn’t ALL of the Supreme Court along with Federal, State and Local Judges be the Mean, Median and Mode??? NO Judge should have an agenda, No judge should be positioned due to cronyism and No judge or court should be allowed to distort the constitution for political/ personal gain. COnstituion states that LOCALS have the first right, then state and lastly the feds. Obviously the experiment of capitalistic democracy in america has failed and thus become a CORPOCRACY!!!!! Very scary for the future, absolutely no consideration for the actual PEOPLE who live, work and die in this so called demond-ocracy. The right to assemble does not include the need to procure a permit. THIS WHOLE SYSTEM: legislative, judicial and executive branches are all corrupt to the core and thus MUST be elimiated and started over from scratch.. The future of this nation depends on it. But the high water mark is above us and the downward slop into fascism has begun!!! GET UP, STAND UP, SPEAK UP for your RIGHTS and PERSONAL FREEDOM!!!!!!
November 1st, 2005 at 8:30 amThe BLUE AND PURPLE STATES STANDS FOR THE WORKING PEOPLE OF AMERICA. PROUD OF IT!!!!! The red states stands for the RIGHT WING RELIGIOUS NUTS OF THIS COUNTRY.
November 1st, 2005 at 8:32 amas a woman I would gladly give up my reproductive right to choice, if these half assed pseudo conservatives and those who vote for them, would all move on to the real issues.
November 1st, 2005 at 8:51 am[...] The libertarians at Hit and Run have produced a point-by-point rebuttal to our earlier post, Samuel Alito’s America. Our original post runs through a number of Alito’s decisions with headlines that suggest Alito’s confirmation would have broad policy implications. (For example: “ALITO WOULD ALLOW RACE-BASED DISCRIMINATION.â€) [...]
November 1st, 2005 at 9:24 amlaws are written by congress. vote out the self righteous ass puppets of the republican party. the supreme court then becomes the moot court and there won’t enough jail cells to hold the 49% of the country that didn’t vote for this smarmy frat rat, horrible executive, embarrassment of a president.
November 1st, 2005 at 9:35 amIn Alito, what you see is exactly what you will get. He might be the nicest guy in the world but his view of the world is even narrower than W, who, until he became President had only travelled out of the USA to Mexico to get drunk, buy drugs and sleep with whores in Tijuana.
Alito went from Yale Law right to a clerk job on the Third Circuit. He’s a provincial Philadelphia Catholic which are some of the most narrow minded and bigotted people you will ever encounter no matter how educated. Best of luck you red state ass puppets. You created this mess, now eat it. The line for the new government forms on the left
November 1st, 2005 at 9:45 amThe only thing worse than far-right religious zealots is far-left knee-jerk liberals. You’re all robots. Where have all the free-thinking moderates gone?
November 1st, 2005 at 9:52 amLIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER!!! WORTHLESS CHILDREN OF GOD!! Oh that’s right YOU ARE ALL PAGENS!!!
November 1st, 2005 at 9:54 amFor what it’s worth, respondingn to the opinion that we should let the country regress so the people who keep voting against their own interests should see where it gets them – blacks, Hispanics, women, and Jews tend to vote for Democrats. (Indeed, precious few blacks vote Republican.) They’d get caught in the crossfire so to speak. Also, lost in that comment, which I have to admit I somewhat resonate with, is the fact that blacks are still hindered from voting in MANY ways, including knocking them off the voter rolls for invalid reasons and making it nearly impossible for them to get back on (Florida 2000), not having enough voting machines – or not having any that work (NYC, Ohio, Florida, no doubt many other states), and letting the KKK hang out in polling areas (Ohio, other states).
November 1st, 2005 at 9:54 amPS> “Pagans” is spelled with two As and no Es.
November 1st, 2005 at 9:54 amNON-BELIEVERS
November 1st, 2005 at 9:55 amI’m not a non-believer; I believe a lot of things. For example, I believe you are an idiot.
November 1st, 2005 at 9:58 amhas anyone noticed the MASSIVE NEW TAXES proposed by Commander Ass Puppet and his deep thinking Republican advisors? They want to completely eliminate the mortgage interest deduction. Shove that shit sandwich up your McMansion.
November 1st, 2005 at 10:03 amAlito’s opinion on the family leave act says alot about the family values often touted and held so dear by conservatives. A family is only valued if it is white, rich and perfectly healthy.
November 1st, 2005 at 10:08 amWow. No wonder you people are so upset at sara. She NAILED you for exactly the children you are. That has to hurt because, inside you know she’s right.
November 1st, 2005 at 10:17 amWow. No wonder you people are so upset at sara. She NAILED you for exactly the children you are. That has to hurt because, inside you know she’s right.
Comment by BT —
Nah. Sara is just clueless. She watches FOX news and has become a head nodding sheeple. People like her don’t hurt me a bit honey. I know she’s blinded by bushit and I pity her.
November 1st, 2005 at 10:32 amIs there anyone on this thread that has some common sense … name calling, calls for secession, wild accusations (that may or may not be grounded in reality) … c’mon people. Both sides (Dems and Repubs) are sounding like 2 year olds. When someone disagrees, they disagree … they are not any less patriotic, American, etc. than the next. Why assume that because we (or I) think a certain way, that must be the only logical conclusion … it isn’t, nor should it be. I’m sick of the politcal parties (both of them). I’m sick of the one sided attacks from both. Let’s use our brains and realize that both sides of the political landscape want things to improve … neither is trying to “run the country into the ground”. As a republic, we elect who we want … and please, chill with the stole the election BS. I fully believe that both sides aren’t above shady practices at the voting booth. I honestly would love an open, practical debate where both sides actually listened to the other … but that doesn’t seem likely.
Oh and can we stop the Christian bashing please … a majority of the country (both Protestant and Catholic) describe themselves as “Christian” and they’re on both sides of the politcal aisle.
November 1st, 2005 at 10:33 am[...] Think Progress > Samuel Alito’s America [...]
November 1st, 2005 at 10:39 am[...] 3. The bloggers are the only ones who are investigating Alito’s past. Look to the blogs for information on Alito’s views on copyright law, abortion, the first amendment, and women’s rights. [...]
November 1st, 2005 at 11:14 amOK Everyone! You can stop worrying and fussing about Alito now. We have the bird flu to fret over!
Let’s see…
Alito
Cheney
DeLay
Worst month of the war since January
But no no no….. worry about the bird flu! Run out and get your vaxes quickly before you die and the pharmaceutical companies can get rich!
What will this Idiot of a leader concoct next? It’s like a freaking soap opera. And they say Liberals are nuts!!! hahahaha
November 1st, 2005 at 11:21 am.. Sorry , but before the bible-thumpers start thumping again , perhaps we should have a quickie-quick lesson in HISTORY ( you know , sciences duller cousin ) ! Long , long ago , in a country far , far away , the bible was a series of ‘ manscripts ‘ , to paraphrase , and the KING ( WHY do you think it’s called the ” King James Version ” , people ?!? )would ‘ proofread ‘ those manuscripts . ANYTHING the royal fellow DIDN’T APPROVE of , was WRITTEN OUT , or CHANGED until it met HIS approval !!! Only THEN , could the ” Word of God ” be ‘ spread ‘ for the masses to ‘ learn ‘ – so until the day when we ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT was REALLY WRITTEN in those ‘ books ‘ , EVERYTHING else is a mortal mans OPINION , nothing more ! Go read the HISTORY of the Bible , you don’t have to just take my word for the TRUTH ! …
November 1st, 2005 at 11:23 amI had a feeling all along that the Miers nomination was just a head-fake by the POTUS. His real choice was always Alito, Miers was just a distraction that would make an Alito appointment more favorable to the Republican-controlled Congress.
Oh, and thank you, Mr. (p)Resident, for wanting to make deep cuts in student loans! It’s clear how you want to pay for your precious tax cuts for the wealthy.
November 1st, 2005 at 11:29 amPeople, why do we really care what other’s do? Unless it’s a personal attack why do we care. What other people do is none of our business weather we agree or disagree. Can’t we just except that we are all of the human race, we were all born with the gift of free will. As humans we have no right to take that away from people. The suggestion of a split in the country, shame on you people. Don’t you know that a split would only weaken us and that as a nation we need to stand together regardless of what our differences are. If we split then the bad guys win. I know it sounds crazy, but think what the WORLD could accomplish if we all JOINED forces instead of fighting with each other. WOW!
Agree to dissagree
November 1st, 2005 at 11:31 amfirst of all, according to Briggs poll, only 32 % of population support Roe. Interestingly enough 55% favor the overturning of R v W. Lets get something straight while we are on the subject. This is NOT a democracy. This country is not ruled by referendum. Nor should it be. It is a republic. Any intrusion by the government that exceeds our forefathers mandate of providing for the common defense, ensuring domestic tranquility and providing for the COMMON welfare is smoke-grinding. The only beneficiaries of the the hundred of thousands of laws on the books is the lawmakers and lawmaker-makers (ie corporate bigwigs, including the press and Hollywood execs) Let E pluribus unun and novus Ordo seclorum be the prevailing mantra as it has since the 1600’s.
November 1st, 2005 at 11:45 amthis is great entertainment….just discovered the spot….too much whining…but to the young lady who got screwed twice…well, look at it this way, at least you got it…maybe more than you can say for your friends….and you didn’t mention anything about being required to place a bag over your head but don’t be too dismayed…from fdr to ‘94 the liberals (that in modern us terms) got it all their way….now the conservatives are getting it their way….roe is god awful law whether you are pro or con on abortion….if you don’t realize that then don’t comment….in the us abortion on demand at anytime is available to a woman….world wide it is not so…even in western europe….stev. bryer was talking to chas. rose and brought up the courts consideration of other nation’s laws while deciding us cases…he mentioned fr. gr. ity.and belg…..none of which grant an abortion at any time during preg…..as someone noted…billy jeff blythe clinton nominated in my opinion a true commy in rbg….trotsky, lenin, stalin, hegal, marx all raised a toast from the grave…vote totals….97-0….that is called you won you choose…remember on the playground when your hand came up on top of the ballbat…you got to choose first….go enjoy the day!
November 1st, 2005 at 11:48 am#531 Tabby You are right!! Now they are bringing up BIRD FLU. The first ones to get this shot or pill is the rich people not the middle class and poor. The pharmaceutical Co. will get richer. There will be no price control on these drugs. What else to you expect from a corrupt admin.
November 1st, 2005 at 11:53 amblablabla
Whats the point of post #526? I don’t understand.
November 1st, 2005 at 12:09 pmJust a note to this “Sceptimus Smith”. You’ve evidently really got a lot of time on your hands. Condescend to somebody else please. Up here we wouldn’t take it from the likes of you. Quit pretending to have this advanced knowledge of history, politics, etc. Who do you think you’re kidding? Certainly not me. Consider pulling your head out of your ass before you suffocate.
November 1st, 2005 at 12:11 pmDo any of these miserable politicians realize how agonizing the decision to have an abortion can be???? Do the majority of people in this country want some (male)political appointment telling families what they can or cannot to do if their unborn child is severely handicapped?? Whose business is this anyway? Get real here folks. Canada DOES look better and better.
November 1st, 2005 at 12:14 pmSorry Gramma, totally disagree with you (as a totally voting, non-apathetic person who unfortunately is still of a reproducing age)….don’t voice your dissent too loudly or the right wing will swoop in on your views and we’ll have the American Taliban!! ;) There are plenty of us you mention who DID vote and who DO care; you can’t just give up and let the right take over. My reproductive rights are so important to me that I’m looking into moving to Canada if this (insert expletive here) low life cretin is actually elected to the Supreme Court. I will NEVER stay in a country that destroys women’s rights and relegates us back to the 50’s. But again, bailing out is not the answer. Let this be a lesson to EVERYONE in this country about letting bullies in the White House!!!!!
November 1st, 2005 at 12:42 pmI’m a liberal but whoever wrote the capsules at the top describing Alito’s opinions has no clue about how the law works. None of those opinions are anywhere close to how they’re described. Alito’s certainly a conservative but he’s not an ideologue. He’s fair and thoughtful in how he interprets the law. Screaming that the sky is falling only makes our side look ridiculous.
November 1st, 2005 at 12:59 pmI am against this nominee. I don’t think he is a horrible person, I just believe that the Supreme Court needs more diversity in its makeup.
November 1st, 2005 at 1:01 pmIf confirmed, Alito would be, of the 9 justices, the:
8th caucasion
8th male
8th from east of the Mississippi
8th attendee of either Harvard or Yale
7th from the northeast
5th Roman Catholic
It is a small pool from which to select Supreme Court Justices. Are only white males from the northeast who attended Harvard or Yale qualified to make reasoned judicial decisions? Only one southerner (Thomas)? Only one woman is qualified? Not one Baptist or Agnostic? A Westerner?
Is he the most qualified? Next to Miers?
Sigh.
good point!! #543
November 1st, 2005 at 1:21 pmThe Supreme Felons and their nonsense are finished. many folks. The court has been, and still is a clear enemy of the human race. They are finished.
heres why http://politicsofet.com
November 1st, 2005 at 1:22 pm#541 I agree. I am a Grandma and I worry for my children that are in their early 30’s and I have two Grandboys. If Roe Vs. Wade is reversed what will happen when my Grandchildren become that age? I know this will not affect them as far as abortion but the right to Privacy will effect them. This is so unfair that the RELIGIOUS NUTS ARE TRYING TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY OVER. I don’t believe anyone has a right to tell another person how to decide on such a personal subject.
November 1st, 2005 at 1:25 pmI’d like to thank President G. W. Bush and his administration for making people such as the late Boston Schoolcommitteewoman, Louise Day Hicks and all her cronies look like a bunch of moderates.
November 1st, 2005 at 2:03 pmSCROTUS – supreme court regressors of the united states. quite sophomoric, but very appropriate. There is also a new singing group doing the beltway society gigs. SCROTUS and the Ass Puppets. Kinda catchy ain’t it.
I love to hear the moderates and conservatives chastize the extreme left wingers. What a joke. As far as abortion is concerned, if you don’t believe in abortion, don’t have one. Let God be your judge,not SCROTUS and the ASS Puppets.
November 1st, 2005 at 2:22 pmBut if Alito only dissented on whether spousal notification met the undue burden test, how can you conclude that he would overturn Roe as a whole?
November 1st, 2005 at 2:42 pmWouldn’t he have dissented completely in Planned Parenthood if really wanted to overturn it?
Bush Nominates Alito
President Bush nominated Judge Samuel Alito, Jr. from the Third Circuit to the Supreme Court yesterday. Judge Alito has a reputation as a solid conservative, and Democrats are predictibly rushing to criticize the nomination. Here’s a roundup of…
November 1st, 2005 at 3:15 pm[...] Apparently, Rush Limbaugh didn’t care for a post we published yesterday, Samuel Alito’s America. From today’s Rush Limbaugh show: Byron York sent me this note that the Center for American Progress has tried to rewrite Senator Kennedy’s famous Robert Bork’s America, and here’s basically what it says. “Samuel Alito would overturn Roe vs. Wade. Samuel Alito would allow race based discrimination. Sam Alito would allow disability based discrimination. Sam Alito would strike down the Family and Medical Leave Act. Sam Alito supports unauthorized strip searches. Sam Alito is hostile toward immigrants,” and they cite their cases to give evidence of this. [...]
November 1st, 2005 at 3:18 pmBush is a communist. It’s only fitting he nominate fellow communists to positions of authority.
November 1st, 2005 at 3:36 pmExecute Bush for desertion, Republicans are the real whiners.
November 1st, 2005 at 3:52 pmPlease don’t tar all of us in the red states. There are a lot of us that HATE what our states do but cannot move from here. We try and be the voice of reason and it’s hard here in the red.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:14 pm… Well , DWI AWOL , I don’t think we need to as bloodthirsty as the neoconnies ( they can’t wait to spill out soldiers blood , as long as their Exxon stock is up ! ) . Al Franken , a reasonable fellow , is trying to introduce a bill that would prohibit a sitting President from being executed , on the basis it would severely demoralize our country ! He’s got a point , though it would be nice to see the whole BushCo. cabal be led to the National Monument , for a public FLOGGING ( they deserve no less , IMO ) !!! …
November 1st, 2005 at 4:19 pmIt’s easy to look qualified when compared to Mires. However looking over Alito’s opinions I would definitely call Alito an activist judge; In Doe v. Groody -2004, Alito allowed an unauthorized strip search of a woman and her 10 year-old daughter, in their own home, without a warrant. He is more conservative then Scalia on a court whose liberal members were once considered right of center on courts of the past. We now have to ask ourselves if we want this very Conservative Activists judge on an already Conservative Supreme Court?
November 1st, 2005 at 5:57 pmblah blah blah…keep beating that dead horse til ‘06 and ‘08.
November 1st, 2005 at 7:30 pmI think his is an igornant slob he is not wha i considerto be a worthy person!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 1st, 2005 at 7:38 pmYou’re comment that Alito woul overturn Roe vs Wade is incorrect. In his statement he in fact cited Roe vs. Wade and was of the opinion that, a spousal notification requirement was not an undue restriction on abortion, especially since it didn’t reqire spousal notification in cases of abuse, and therefore was not inconsistent with Roe vs. Wade. He also supported a later ruling that struck down a law that banned late term abortions, because it made no exceptions for the woman’s health.
November 1st, 2005 at 7:42 pmA clear majority of americans elected W. A clear majority of americans see Sadam Insane as a threat to peace in the Mideast. I guess you dont think Iran is trying to get the bomb as well. It will all come home when the worst night mare happens some where in the us. You all want it to happen. Why do you liberals want so much a european america. One that cowers to the threats in the earth. America can never be what you all want it to be. It was a country founded by strongly religous people who wanted to escape persecution in europe and it turned into the most prosperous nation on earth because of God and our devotion to Him. The fact that we have gained control of the nation only points back to God as well. Why cant you believe. Why do you want to kill little babies in their mothers womb. Why are you so evil when you have been granted life. You should ask yourself these questions.
November 1st, 2005 at 7:43 pm… Why don’t neoconnies want to feed the little babies AFTER they come out of their mothers womb , Steve ? Why don’t the neoconnies want the little babies to have medicine AFTER they come out of their mothers womb , Steve ? Why don’t the neoconnies want the little babies to be able to read & write ( with the REST of the WORLD – our children AREN’T even in the TOP TEN in testing worldwide ! ) AFTER they come out of their mothers womb , Steve ? Why did the neoconnies want the little babies to grow up into big strong men & women that the neoconnies could send off to a FALSE WAR , based on LIES & fueled ( literally ) by GREED , and get the babies KILLED , Steve ? …
November 1st, 2005 at 8:04 pmI was wondering if any of you actually have an example of Judge Alito misapplying clear law, as opposed to simply coming to a result that you disagree with politically (without any idea of the correct LEGAL decision)?
November 1st, 2005 at 8:36 pmDubya thinks he appointed Judge Ito.
November 1st, 2005 at 10:03 pmIf I were dictator of the world, I would do a few things: a) make sure that all ideologies have a role in policy-making decisions, so as to balance things out and make sure no one party or ideology (other than me, anyway) dominates policy-making. The current US government is in grave danger of ideological unbalance, even if judges DO generally get more liberal over time. That being said, liberalism is probably a better ideology than conservativism, given that liberalism has empathy for other people and differing viewpoints, while conservativism is, well, authoritarian in its nature (at least economically), while it is libertarian with respect to religion. (However, if I were dictator, I would have to be a bit more “conservative” in order to preserve the dictatorship, for obvious reasons: after all, one can’t stay dictator of an anarchy.)
November 1st, 2005 at 10:19 pmb) I would (mostly) encourage freedom of speech and the press, and I would also encourage freedom of religion, especially diversity of religion. (However, I would censor violations of national security, such as anything reporting the physical interiors of military bases or military firepower.)
c) I would make New York City the capital. However, I wouldn’t use the UN Building as the castle. It’s too bland and it’s too modern. However, the site of the Cloisters in uptown Manhattan and the site of the 1939 World’s Fair in Queens would be prime candidates for an Imperial Palace site.
d) I would discourage attempts at racism, sexism, religionism, and culturalism so far as it involves bullying or harassing other people. However, I would encourage folks to be proud of race, gender, religion, and culture, so long as they don’t use it to dis those that are different.
e)I would never appoint Mr. Alito as judge, although I appreciate his New Jersey origins. He favors corporations too much against their employees. However, he seems to be wishy-washy on abortion bans (his personal views against abortion doesn’t quite translate perfectly into professional judgements – his rulings in courts actually seem to be mixed), and he supports freedom of religion, which is good. However, I’d look for a more liberal Imperial Justice, thank you very much.
… Yow-Ack , Tom3 ! LOL ! And now we feel better , eh , not so much ! Especially considering how well Lance ” Star-Search ” Ito handled intense scrutiny , and how well JUSTICE was served ( NOT !!! ) ! … ;)
November 1st, 2005 at 10:21 pmHowever, I don’t want anyone to be dictator of our country. This is a further reason why I’m concerned about the current tilt of our government in favor of a particular political party.
Anyway, weren’t the Founding Fathers against having political parties to begin with? (Well, at least some of the Founding Fathers.)
November 1st, 2005 at 10:22 pmI thought Alito went to Princeton. Where do they say he went to Yarvard?
November 1st, 2005 at 10:25 pmDubya stole the 2000 election. He didn’t steal 2004. However, even though a majority of Americans voted for Dumbya in 2004, a majority of Americans now apparently regrets the decision.
November 1st, 2005 at 10:27 pmInternet blogs, chats, and discussion boards are great. But they get us nowhere. Please (although I’m being somewhat of a hypocrite here), put your efforts – regardless of what they are – into active participation in exercising our freedoms in a constructive ways: letters to congresspeople, protests, and other “out in the face of the nation” types of freedoms of speech. Look at how much was done in the 60s and 70s. There were no blogs and chat rooms. There were thousands upon thousands of people in Washington arguing for Civil Rights and “peace, man”. Do you see any of that today? Let’s get out and say something and quit sitting on our asses, bitching and moaning to one another in a somewhat sheltered environment about all our fears and anger toward the current administration. Don’t want GW and his facist-leaning boys in office? Go let ‘em know, on the state level and/or in Washington. Wouldn’t it be great to see a Martin Luther King-type of scene at the Washington Monument again?
November 1st, 2005 at 10:46 pmOne more thought…or two:
Let us learn from history…FOR ONCE. We’ve shot ourselves in the foot too many times.
and…
Ignorance is no longer bliss. All of you baby boomers have a generation behind you that cares (whether you know it or not) and is going to reap the benefits – or the consequences – of what takes place now. Keep your minds open. Ignorance is no longer bliss. And yes, FYI, I’m a freshman in college and scared out of my mind.
November 1st, 2005 at 10:51 pmAnother facist we don’t need
November 1st, 2005 at 11:14 pmWhat is so crazy about the abortion thing. His ruling was about whether or not the Constitution has anything saying that a state cannot make legislation requiring that women NOTIFY (not get consent) the husband if they get an abortion. He didn’t make up this law, this was a law actually passed by legislators and he had to look to the Constitution to see if it banned such a law. I don’t think this is a crazy ruling, and it doesn’t prove anything about how he would rule on Roe v. Wade. It’s certainly debatable and passionate, but really people are making way too much out of it.
November 1st, 2005 at 11:16 pmLuke – If you had browsed the comments here before posting, with all the hysterical name calling, disinformation (lies), off-the-handle spouting over poorly informed analysis you would know that there are very, very few here who care about facts. Just like the whacko far right sites, whacko far left sites like this can’t tolerate facts or rational discussion. Your comment is so true and so valid that you are sure to be insulted for it. Isn’t it funny how alike they are in their intolerance? One of the few real truths you will get over the next couple of months is that you will have to go dig for yourself if you want real truth. Places like this haven’t the slightest reason to give it to you. Like I keep saying though, it sure is entertaining to read, which is why I stop in from time to time.
November 1st, 2005 at 11:38 pmI’m with Average TV Viewer. Most people are pro choice but the republican party has been hijacked by a bunch of radical christians. These extremists have only one mission and that is saving fetuses and killing criminals and making sure men don’t fornicate. It is obvious they do not want a United States.
Comment by Communist and Proud
Dear Lord! You’d have to pay a normal person a ton of money to write black comedy like this.
It’s extreme to be against killing babies? It’s preferable to kill babies rather than criminals? It’s cool with you if men including your own (you should be so lucky) fornicate their assess off? People who aren’t as degenerate as you don’t want a United States?
Dear God in Heaven, you are one sick puppy, do you know that?
….MysticalMagical…this is one of the reasons I call them the Filthy Left. Are you starting to get it yet?
November 2nd, 2005 at 10:45 amThink about it guys. Democrat, Republican? No difference. Just like up here in Canada. There is nothing to seperate right wing and left wing parties. Why?
Because they are both run by people who go to the same country clubs, play golf together and do business together. Politics is a business venture. You can’t fight the people in power through the system, because the people in power created the system to be malleable to their ways.
The only way to fight these people is to create a power base that can rival theirs. Kind of like how the EU became the largest free market in the world, surpassing the US. Now, the US economy is in the shitter, and the Euro is about to replace the US dollar as the reserve currency.
The only way to institute change is to network together, and create the power base that will fight the establishment, and you do that by gathering intelligent people such as yourselves together, polling resources and thought, and organizing an economical resistance, becase the only way you guys are gonna take the power away from the ursurpers in your government, is to get enough money to make them do what you want.
Just a canadian’s thoughts on the matter.
November 2nd, 2005 at 10:49 amTo Mary Poppin:
Mary,
Any man who helps create a life has the right to help decide if that life is to be aborted. The only time he does not have this right is when he gives it up. If a woman does not want to risk the chance of getting pregnant then she needs to ensure that SHE uses proper precaution to prevent that unwanted pregnancy. If that means using a combination of birth control to ensure 100% effectiveness then so be it. It is her body and ultimately her responsibility. By saying this I do not absolve men from acting responsible and using birth control, but if he refuses to use a condom, then it must fall on the woman to ensure that the pregnancy does not occur. If she has to so NO … wel that works to.
November 2nd, 2005 at 11:24 amHey wait a minute. Before the blue states secede don’t forget there are a few of us “blue meanies” still stranded in the red states. Please don’t go. I don’t want to be compelled to attend church each week with these neandrathals.
November 2nd, 2005 at 11:25 amThe reason kids can’t read is Liberal Teachers don’t or can’t teach. Facts are facts folks…read it (if you can) and weep!
50 years of failed welfare and you get a New Orleans. Crime, ignorance, looting, poor people living below sea level. Good job libs. Please…no more help from you guys. It just hasn’t worked.
November 2nd, 2005 at 12:21 pmHave you all forgotten that Bill Clinton put TWO far-left-wingers on the Supreme Court? — Breyer and Ginsburg. Bush, by putting Roberts and, hopefully, Alito, on the court will just undo the damage that Clinton did. But, where will we be, then? If Alito is confirmed, we will just be back to where we were before Clinton…and that sure is a better place to be.
November 2nd, 2005 at 12:22 pmI have not read in the the constitution that it must be taken as literal and exactly as written. The founding fathers had no such intention. Afterall they were radicals themselves. they would be appalled that the right uses their names to justify theirintertrpation of the constitution.
November 2nd, 2005 at 12:40 pmAlthough I agree with the general effort to thwart George W., as a lawyer who has just scanned the cases you cite to, you are mischaracterizing Alito’s record. He is not as radical as you indicate, and does not advocate many of the things you indicate he does. The case regarding strip-searches, while good for catching people’s attention is rather nuanced, and the officers who did the searching DID request that the warrant include family members. It was a clerical error, and not what you would make of it. Truth be told, he was probably trying to protect the individual cops from potential bankrupcty, more than he was doing anything else…
November 2nd, 2005 at 1:22 pmYou red state idiots need to wake up! I know that a majority of you do not want to live in a theocracy ruled by a small cabal of Evangelical Christian Right Wing Facists! So stop voting Republican you idiots! You are destroying America! Stop it!
November 2nd, 2005 at 3:00 pmHey wait a minute. Before the blue states secede don’t forget there are a few of us “blue meanies†still stranded in the red states. Please don’t go. I don’t want to be compelled to attend church each week with these neandrathals.
Comment by Helpless
You have the wrong idea there Helpless. We don’t want you in Church unless you want to be there. Also, we don’t want you to go to hell but we’re not going to put a gun to your head to keep you from going if you really want to. Now the Catholics, I don’t know about. It used to be that they’d torture you to get you to confess Christ then kill you to keep you from backsliding. I’m not sure if they do that any more though. I do know the Muslims still do but of course you don’t have a problem with them.
November 2nd, 2005 at 3:02 pmI have not read in the the constitution that it must be taken as literal and exactly as written. The founding fathers had no such intention. Afterall they were radicals themselves. they would be appalled that the right uses their names to justify theirintertrpation of the constitution.
Comment by ron hansing
They were not radicals idiot, they were free Christian men who intended to stay that way. If the words they wrote weren’t intended to mean exactly what they said then what was the point of writing at all?
After reading this tripe I can not help but to fear for my country. But I’ll tell you something losers, this kind of thinking is exactly what our enemies were shooting for when they first infiltrated our government and institutions. There’s a reason you people are so terribly ignorant and it wasn’t an accident.
November 2nd, 2005 at 3:21 pm“I have not read in the constitution that it must be taken as literal and exactly as written.”
What kind of idiot thinks that the constitution wasn’t meant to be took literally? Every right in the constitution was written very straight forward. I don’t see how there are many ways that you can interpret it. I’m so sick of certain liberals who think that right to bear arms only applies to the government.
“The right of ‘the people’ to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
It is an individual right like every other right in the constitution you dumbfucks and no government, whether it be federal or state government, has the authority to restrict our personal ownership of firearms. It doesn’t say the right of the government to keep and bear arms. It’s not open for interpretation and same with all of our other constitutional rights. If you think there should be limits and restrictions on our rights then get the fuck out of this country. As long as we keep our guns the government will never be more powerful than its people. We the people will reign forever.
And one last thing. What the hell makes you liberals think every republican is some kind of radical Christian who is going to force his/her beliefs on you. Nobody cares about you and your atheist bullshit. Continue believing bouncing atoms randomly created the universe and that we are all a bunch of monkeys. You will always have the freedom to believe so.
November 2nd, 2005 at 6:23 pmThere are consequences to elections and Bush and the Republicans have won the elections and have control over the executive and legislative branches of government. Liberals can whine about this all they want, but taking their fight to the judicial to try to win control through judicial activism is just corrupt politics at its worst. It can be seen throughout their activity as well, from the indictment of DeLay to the investigation on Frist and the indictmnet of Libby. Liberals, who can’t win at the ballot box, are trying to win in the courts instead. They want a government by judges. That is unconstitutional. It is time for them to recognize that there are consequences to elections. Support Judge Alito’s nomination to the Supreme Court!
November 2nd, 2005 at 6:46 pmLaid Back Pete and I-RIGHT-I
If the “founding fathers” werent radicals then nobody is. The “founding fathers” led a revolution to violently overthrow their government. They helped created a new sovereign nation. (Writing these things makes me uncomfortable because, while Washington, Jefferson et all get the credit, it was thousands of common people who did all the hard work, just like in any other revolution.) These are radical things!
The definition of radical changes as society comes to accept new ideas. There was a time when abolition, or universal sufferage, were considered radical ideas.
We live with the legacy of the “founding fathers” everyday. They ideas that they and countless others worked hard to popularize are deeply ingrained in our culture. We may not see them as radical today, but at the time they were.
The Constitution was written to be a living document. It is supposed to be subject to interperetation. The “founding fathers” recognized that they were not omnipotent and could not see the future. The Constitution can be interpereted differently at different times or in different places. Thats is why it has worked, to the extent that it has.
Where did I learn this? In pubic school, where I was taught by “liberal” teachers to read and write. I was taught the most important skill anyone can aquire – CRITICAL THINKING. That means careful analysis of ideas before I take them to be truth, whether they come from the president, the “founding fathers” or a left wing web site. I think that it is not “liberal” teachers that are the problem with our education system, it is lack of adequate funding, and perhaps more importantly lack of emphasis on critical thinking skills. The reason that the American Revolution succeeded, the reason that the American experiment has worked, to the extent that it has, is because there was at one time an emphasis on quality public education, and a free, dynamic press that encourged analysis. This is not the case today.
November 2nd, 2005 at 6:51 pmWhat a bunch of idiots. I a moderate republican am no fan of Bush, but split the union? Red state hate? Grow up! You liberals slept thru history class. And abortion? Too bad your mothers didn’t have one.
November 2nd, 2005 at 6:52 pmAlito makes Roberts sound friendly and I HATE Roberts. These people are really destroying the U.S. making it an un-U.S. I agree with the person who said let’s split the U.S. up. I would love to be part of a secession movement. Let the Northeast and West Coast secede from the U.S. and then all these meanies that are remaining can all torture each other.
November 2nd, 2005 at 6:55 pmThere seems to be a great conceptual misunderstanding on this site. Many writers seem to believe that this nomination could tip the court balance to “make abortion illegal.†I would challenge any reader or writer to give an example a decision from any current member of the court that would “make abortion illegal.†I offer three points for consideration: 1. Overturning Roe would hardly make abortion illegal, and to claim so is at best a misunderstanding and at worst a lie; 2. No sitting justice on the court has ever given the least indication that he or she would make abortion illegal; 3. Alito’s record does not indicated with any likelihood how he would decide if given the opportunity to overturn Roe, though there is significant evidence that he would uphold the decision.
November 3rd, 2005 at 6:05 amIt is true that a few Justices, Scailia, Thomas, and Reinquest specifically, have argued that Roe was a bad decision that should be overturned. However, overturning Roe would in no way mean making abortion illegal and sending women to “back alleys.†It would simply return the nation to a pre Roe state in which abortion laws were decided at the state level. In many, if not most states, this would still mean legal abortion.
Essentially, the question at the level of the Supreme Court is a legal one, and not a moral one. It is true that we have a natural (but limited) right to control our own bodies. It is also true that at the point of personhood (whenever that is), we have a fundamental natural right to life. It is not the realm of the court to protect these natural or human rights as they are not explicit in law, however. We have a legislative branch and an amendment process to do that. The role of the court is to determine what the current law, for good or bad, compels us to do. The rest is the realm of the legislative and the states. Whatever one’s thoughts on the right to choose or the right to life, personal opinions about rights and morality are irrelevant. Any legal discussion of abortion rights, for or against, must hinge on the legal legitimacy of the arguments in Roe and Casey.
Alito will face two arguments in any abortion case to come before him. (He may actual face many arguments, such as the original Roe arguments about privacy and the claim that the 14th Amendment protects the unborn, but these two are the most compelling.) One is the argument that abortion is in no way protected in the document of the Constitution itself. The basis for Roe as a perceived right to privacy that is implied in the “penumbra†of the Constitution. However, at no point in the document is the term “privacy†used. Certain part of the text seem to imply a right to privacy, such as the prohibition on forced housing of troops and search and seizure restrictions. These, however, do not tell us how far such a right would extend beyond these very narrow areas. Abortion is a very different issue than the quartering of troops, and it is not clear that the privacy implied in one extends to the other. The Ninth Amendment does tell us that other right, not enumerated in the Constitution, do exist. However, this offers us little as to what those rights are. The Tenth Amendment, however, is very clear. “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.†Since the Constitution does not mention abortion or privacy, it seems that the Constitution demands that the issue should be left up to the individual states.
The other argument will be the claims of stare decisis. Stare decisis is the practice of the court in honoring earlier court decisions. The belief, drawing on the British common law system, is that in order for law to be stable, courts must show deference to the decisions of early courts. This was largely O’Connor’s reasoning in upholding abortion rights in Roe. While she threw out much of the Constitutional legal reasoning of Roe, she held on to the essential right based on its acceptance in current law. Alito has shown a great respect for stare decisis in the past. His record specifically on abortion is mixed – in one case, he upheld spousal notification, while in another he voted to strike down a ban on partial birth abortions. In both cases, he relied not on his own constitutional interpretation or his own opinions on the morality of abortion, but on his reading of earlier Supreme Court decisions.
Of course, being an appellate judge is very different than being a Supreme Court justice, and the burden to observe earlier court decisions is much less. (And thankfully so. If judges were afraid to overrule settled law, we would still be living with Dredd Scott and Plessy vs. Furgeson, and would have never had such great decisions as Brown vs. Board of Education.) Still, Alito seems far more bound to stare decisis and earlier court decisions than Thomas or Scalia, who see stare decisis as overridden by the text of the Constitution.
But again, even if Alito did vote to overturn Roe, it would hardly send women to back alleys. It would simply mean that abortion would no longer be a federal issue. The law might well protect a “women’s right to choose†in some starts and a “child’s right to life in others.†There is no reason to believe that in most states, abortion would not still be legal.
M. Aurelius-
November 3rd, 2005 at 7:45 amI follow your argument until…”Still, Alito seems far more bound to stare decisis and earlier court decisions than Scalia or Thomas…” Please explain your comment.
As an appellate court judge, he is, indeed, more bound to stare decisis than a supreme court justice. Until Alito goes before the senate juducial committee, one cannot presume his opinion on stare decisis or the weight he will give to it.
It’s a new game with a different set of rules.
My gut tells me we have a strict constructionalist, but I will reserve final judgement on the man until the hearings are complete.
What I am certain of is, he was nominated by a President hell-bent on judicial activism.
You lost credibility with your first claim. His vote in Casey does not mean he would vote to overturn Roe; that is pretty obvious. If your other reactions to his votes are equally unnuanced and alarmist, then little of what you say has credibility. This whole thing is getting to be a joke: Alito is an extremist because extremists, who know no more about him than I do, are happy with him. By that standard, David Suter was an extremist since the same groups lined up for and against his nomination.
November 3rd, 2005 at 1:55 pmOur country has just taken one step forward. It is about time a male is picked as a replacement for a woman in a high-level governmental position. I thought that’s what we were getting when our president picked John Roberts to fill Sandra Day O’Connor’s seat, but that elation was shortlived when Roberts filled Rehnquist’s position and Bush nominated a woman for O’Connor’s seat. Anyway, Thank you, George W., for redeeming yourself and for not prostrating yourself in front of the affirmative action-quota goddess. W., you chose a supreme court nominee based on ability, not gender, and, for that, I am forever grateful.
November 3rd, 2005 at 2:25 pmThankfully, after Alito gets confirmed – overwhelmingly, I may add – the Supreme Court will be representative of the true United States of America. God-fearing, pro-life, and pro-Constitution. There will be no more legislating from the bench, which is the only way liberals and Democrats can push their desructive agenda, since they cannot win an election. Yes, Roe vs. Wade, the biggest travesty of justice since the Drett Scott decision, will be overturned. 30 million dead babies to late, but better-late-than never. To all you secular progressive, baby-killing, anti-religion, judicial facist, left-wing hate-mongers out there: the bell tolls for thee.
November 3rd, 2005 at 2:36 pmFor years now, the judicial branch of our government has become increasingly guilty of “legislating”. It seems that when either side of the aisle cannot get what it wants through the orderly process set up by our Founders, it will attempt to circumvent Constitutional safeguards, not with an Amendment or a change in the structure and/or philosophy of elected legislators, but by attempting to “stack” the courts with toady judges. This, of course, has naturally produced a society that is now being run by special interest groups.
Listen to yourselves. Most of the responses above are from people who want (or want to keep) something that they didn’t earn and was not theirs to take. I despise George Bush and most of what he stands for (whatever that might be)just as most of you do. But what would we have had with John Kerry? Would he not have pandered to “his” side? What did we have with Bill Clinton, or George I? The only thing that has a chance of taking the politics out of these arguments is the Supreme Court, and most of you good people would delight in perverting that to get your way.
The only litmus test that a judge should undergo during the confirmation process is, “Has she or he adhered to the letter of the law.” We need to demand of our judges the integrity and courage to be adjudicators, NOT legislators!
Every one of the points at the top of this page is either a distortion of the facts in a particular decision or, by abbreviation, an attempt to mislead. This man is not a devil in disguise. And if you actually take the time to read his disentions(!) you might find that the reason he voted a perticular way often DID NOT reflect his personal point of view! How refreshing!! How honorable! Oh, I see, it wasn’t the result YOU wanted.
I am not a conservative and I am not a Christian. What I am is a concerned American who sees the future of this Country’s children being squandered by selfish, arrogant, envious, and ignorant people. People who somehow think that their rights have precedence over those of others, people who think that if they can organize enough of their “kind” they can force everyone else – ultimately at the point of a gun – to do their bidding. This is a “god complex” and both the Left and Right are guilty of it.
No, this guy Alito gets my vote. I don’t care if he’s conservative or liberal. I only care if he rules on the letter of the law. We have elected representatives who have been given the job of creating those laws. Let them do THEIR jobs. Get a grip, folks. Regardless of what some say, it’s not the end of the world!
November 3rd, 2005 at 3:53 pmTo “real American”…looks like the left doesn’t have a monopoly on hate.
November 3rd, 2005 at 4:01 pmhi
i am a conservative Dremocrat, and the Constituion was meant to be a living document BUT
it is meant to be changed by the PEOPLE, through voted amendments!!! NOT changed by unelected federal judges!
george washington [who is he? the forgotten American] said in his Farewell Address that the Consitution must never be changed except by amendment. And he added: ‘Beware the cry of NECESSITY from those who would take way your liberties.”
How right that great man was, in giving us that warning 210 years ago…..and both parties have used that cry of “necessity!” to steal away most of our original freedoms. lets save the ones we have left!!!
November 3rd, 2005 at 4:35 pmThe American yarvardocracy is alive, well, and feasting on America’s heart and soul. A couple of Puritan New England universities are holding our country’s national policy in a straitjacket, and the main beneficiaries seem to be Puritans from Dixie and/or Catholics from anywhere else (not that there’s anything wrong with Catholics or Puritans per se.) We ought to form a Rutgers-Princeton-Berkeley-NYU-CUNY-Chicago alliance to help foster changes in American policy and provide a hedge against the manipulations of the Yarvardocrats.
November 3rd, 2005 at 5:17 pmThere’s also this in today’s Boston Globe. It may not be enough to scuttle the nomination but it ought to certainly be raised during the confirmation hearings.
Conflict of Interest: It’s not for Republicans, anymore.
November 3rd, 2005 at 5:34 pmJen,
I did not mean to imply that Alito’s allegiance to stare decisis was by any means a guarantee. If I gave that impression, I apologize. As I wrote, the roles of an appellate judge and Supreme Court Justice are dramatically different.
However, Alito’s record shows a respect for stare decisis that goes beyond even many of his appellate peers. In comparison, Scalia seems to have a fairly limited view of stare decisis, and if we are to believe Scalia, Thomas thinks it an almost irrelevant factor. (I do not wish to unfairly characterize Thomas by putting words in his mouth, but given his comparatively limited writing on his own jurisprudence outside the court, his decisions, and his similarities to Scalia, I do not see a reason Scalia would mischaracterize him.)
What I find a bit more puzzling is your (and Senator Schumer’s) insistence that this President is intent on nominating activist judges. To claim that a textualist or strict constructionist (they are different positions) is an activist amounts to Orwellian double speak. To treat law as it is written and outside of political and social agendas is the antithesis of judicial activism. (And even if this president did nominate judicial activists, which he clearly has not, it would hardly be a legitimate criticism by the left, which has supported a “living document†approach for years. The left might not like the specific type of activism, but could hardly be consistent in attacking activism itself.)
November 3rd, 2005 at 5:45 pmTo Jen-
November 3rd, 2005 at 5:59 pmI don’t hate anyone, really. What I hate is the eroding of traditional American values by a Democratic party that has been hijacked by radical leftists. I am a moderate who leans toward the right, not some ideologue who marches lock-step to the drum-beat of the right. However, I do espouse most of the views of the right wing and the Republicans, as do the majority of Americans. Yes, that’s right. I said the majority of Americans. The great majority of Americans are just like me, right-leaning moderates. We win all the important elections, and we will keep putting “our” guys in office. America will not be held hostage by the tyranny of the radical minority who wish to destroy the very fundamentals that this nation was founded upon. Fundamentals such as small government, respect for human life and religious faith. Until the Democrats realize this, and take back control of their party from the likes of Howard Dean and Hillary Clinton, they can forget about winning any important elections in the future. Therefore, good judges like Alito will continue to preside over the highest court in the land.
The claims made at the top of this page are at best incomplete and slanted. More accurately, they are downright deceptive and misleading. They completely ignore the reasoning, circumstances, and law in the cases cited. Worse, they downright lie about the practical results of the cases. Consider a few of the cases in more detail:
One of the issues in the Bray cases was whether adherence to promotion practices lack of adherence to promotion procedures NECESSAIRLY constituted racial discrimination. Alito’s claim was that there must be some basis for believing that promotion decisions were race based, not just that they were unfair, in order for a racial discrimination case to be brought. Unfair promotion practices may be wrong, but they are not de facto racial discrimination. Claimed Alito, “We are allowing disgruntled employees to impose the costs of trial on employers who, although they have not acted with the intent to discriminate, may have treated their employees unfairly,” This hardly seems reactionary, and to claim that the decision allows racial discrimination is an outright lie.
Nor has Alito’s jurisprudence been consistently aligned with any political party or perspective when it comes to racial issues. On another case, he argued to allow a retrial of an African American prisoner who claimed that one of his jurors lied about being a racist, even though that prisoner and his attorney had the chance in the jury selection process to dismiss the juror.
The Family and Medical Leave act was a bit more complicated a case in which Alito voted to restrict the law not based on personal conviction that it was good or bad, but based on concerns of conflicts with the Eleventh Amendment (which restricts the right to sue government). Claiming that the law went beyond Congress’s Constitutional powers, he stated, “Unlike the Equal Protection Clause, which the FMLA is said to enforce, the FMLA does much more than require nondiscriminatory sick leave practices; it creates a substantive entitlement to sick leave. Accordingly, we hold that the FMLA provisions at issue here do not represent a valid exercise of Congress’s power to enforce the Fourteenth Amendment and that the FMLA does not abrogate Eleventh Amendment immunity.” Again, we may or may not like the conclusion, but the only relevant question is whether it is consistent with the text of the Constitution.
Finally, in Doe vs. Grody, Alito made the very logical observation that drug dealers, when facing search of drug houses, may well hide evidence on those occupants of the house. It would be fully reasonable to assume that a drug dealer facing search would hide evidence on friends or family in the house with him at the time. This isn’t a blanket call for uncontrolled “strip searches,” but a reasonable claim that a warrant to search the contents of a house includes searching the persons in the house. Claimed Alito, “Drug dealers, when they are about to be arrested, often give contraband or incriminating evidence to other persons who are on the premises (”occupants”) in the hope that these persons will not be searched. The majority notes that this passage does not literally state that narcotics dealers often hide drugs on family members and young children, but this is precisely the sort of technical, legalistic reading that is out of place in interpreting a search warrant or supporting affidavit.” Again, this hardly seems unreasonable, and is far from a license for random strip searches.
I won’t deal with the Casey case in detail as I have already done it in some depth in an early post, though I would make a few points. 1. The specific issue Alito delt with was the notorious “unreasonable burden†finding of the Supreme Court. Even after Case, the Court has not accurately or succinctly defined what an “unreasonable burden†consists of, and the majority opinion in Casey gives rather contradicting examples. 2. Casey did not truly “reaffirm Roe vs. Wade†in the Casey decision. By a one vote majority, the Court upheld the right to an abortion. However, in the majority opinion, O’Connor essentially rejected the legal reasoning in Roe and a Constitutional basis for abortion rights, instead claiming that abortion was a right simply by virtue of stare decisis and the fact that it had been accepted by society as a right for so long. The court even threw out the trimester system in Roe, in the process leaving the grounding for abortion as a right very muddled and confused in Constitutional terms.
November 3rd, 2005 at 6:08 pmBeyond this, I would simply refer back to three earlier points: 1. No one on the current court has ever given any indication that they would “make abortion illegal,†2. Overturning Roe would not “make abortion illegal,†3. Alito’s record gives some very compelling evidence that he might well vote to uphold Roe.
Again, I would encourage readers to consider the cases on their legal, not political merits, and to read the decisions themselves as opposed to buying into talking points from radical left or reactionary right wing sources.
Premises:
ALITO WOULD OVERTURN ROE V. WADE
ALITO WOULD ALLOW RACE-BASED DISCRIMINATION
ALITO WOULD ALLOW DISABILITY-BASED DISCRIMINATION
ALITO WOULD STRIKE DOWN THE FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE ACT
ALITO SUPPORTS UNAUTHORIZED STRIP SEARCHES
ALITO HOSTILE TOWARD IMMIGRANTS
Are these premises true: Probably not.
November 3rd, 2005 at 6:18 pmWould they benefit the country?: Yes, in all cases.
The Republican Hit Squad is out in force on this site. They pay people to make to post on web sites and write letters to newspapers. The left side uses on volunteers like us. The bottom line is Alito will be confirmed, and at some point in the future Roe v. Wade will be overturned. Most of the Red States will make abortion illegal, and I will wait for the first woman to die of a back alley abortion. The Liberal Media will cover the story 24 hours a day. I could go on and on about this, but I am not being paid to post on this web site.
November 3rd, 2005 at 6:39 pmMadacaoa,
Where can I sign up for these payments? I can argue any side and position, and some payment would be nice for the things I am on their side on.
November 3rd, 2005 at 7:04 pmAll this whining is hilarious. You would think that this Mr. Alito was poised to attack all the whimpering liberals hold dear. He can only address what comes up to his court, and then he has been shown to have HIS OWN MIND and not afraid to dissent. Remember the Beatles “You say you want a revolution…you better free your mind instead”. 1. I would enjoy a split America where I don’t have to put up with all the Political Correctness and my tax dollars being spent on more social programs for people that, for the most part, won’t help themselves. Roe v Wade is a court decision, open to interpetation, NOT legislation interpeted by the law. See, our system has it backwards and wrong, again. 2. I did not get paid for writing this. 3. I think Democrats and Republicans are the same anyway, centrist complainers that will do ANYTHING to maintain the status quo. Radical change is the only thing that will pull us out of our horrible moral and financial quagmire. Notice how gas prices have dropped since people got angry about being “bent over” at the pump. Fuel should be a utility, like electricity. I am not for government interference or ownership of much, but the oil companies have shown malicious intent. I think they have lost the right to own our fuel sources. Lawyers should not be allowed to have government offices and Congress as a whole should be subject to the same laws as those they govern (such as retirement programs and social security issues) Quit waiting for the politicians to do something and ORGANIZE. My motto is “if a liberal is complaining, someone probably earned or did something of value for themselves”.
November 3rd, 2005 at 7:31 pmM. Aurelius-just call the RNC and sign up. Look, I hope Alito does his duty to the GOD and casts the 5-4 vote overturning Roe v. Wade, which will send it back to the states.
For example, lets imagine that the blue state of Illinois keeps abortion legal, and the red state of Kentucky makes abortion illegal for any reason. This leads me to several questions. If abortion is murder, could Kentucky pass a law that makes it illegal for a woman to cross state lines to committ murder? Hmmmmm…I imagine that the evil Liberals would provide free bus fare for women in Kentucky to travel to Illinois to have legal abortions, or murders if you are Catholic.
Also, would police in Kentucky be forced to check packages that may contain the drug RU-486? They would have to get warrants to break into homes where abortions, or murders, are taking place.
Let me add a thought about the Red State of Montana. Will they prevent women from entering Canada to have abortions? Will they prevent gay people from entering Canada to have marriages?
Will the Theocracy of Texas prevent women from entering Mexico to have abortions? I can see new business opportunities for Mexicans in the future; abortion clinics.
You can see where I am going with this. Wealthy people will just fly their pregnant daughters to another country for their abortions. Nothing changes for them. This will only affect American women who are not wealthy. Unless the Radical Right passes a law that requires pregnancy tests for women who want to leave the USA. I can’t wait…
November 3rd, 2005 at 8:31 pmMadacaoa,
Interesting argument. What is your argument based on the text of the Constitution? Anything else is frivolous and irrelevant (if interesting) banter.
And how does that relate to the factual inaccuracies put forth by Think Progress above?
November 3rd, 2005 at 9:38 pmCommon guys, I’m no Bush cheerleader but everything yall have been writing on this blog reflects a real lack of critical thinking. Aren’t you guys supposed to be open minded? If all you do is read the Nation, New Yorker, Atlantic (all though all those are probably fairly conservative publications from your perspective)and what have you, how can you possibly expect to have an intelligent discussion about anything? Cede from the Union and join Canada?! WTF? Check a story in the NY Times (definitely not a conservative publication) about Alito, he is really quite moderate, and prefers to defer to lower court decision making. Nowhere to my knowledge does he advocate overturning Roe v Wade. His rulings have been pro-gay rights and he voted against anti-sodomy laws. It seems like you are all foolishly advocating a very idealistic application of the law; you would impose your leftist values in judicial decision making, whereas Alito, far from reflecting the mindset of a right-wing nut-job, consistently differs from his republican judicial colleagues and administers the law based on judicial precedent and basic principles of justice, speed economy and consistency. What kind of justice would you like to see on the SC?
Think Progress.
November 3rd, 2005 at 10:25 pmone sided argument !!!
November 3rd, 2005 at 10:26 pmyou folks are only feeding on your own information
do you really feel like you have the truth it only sounds like anger NOT wisdom
You post a link to the Doe v Groody decision – but have you read it? I have. The case had nothing to do with strip searches, although that did happen to the defendants (by a female officer, in a bathroom where others couldn’t watch) – the legal question was whether the warrant asked for permission to search “all occupants” or only the target “John Doe”. The officer’s affadavit three times specified “all occupants” and was attached to the warrant, filled out by the same officers. In the box for people to be searched, only “John Doe” was named. Officers explained that there wasn’t enough room, and that the affadavit was attached. Majority ruling for the plaintiffs against the search said that although the affadavit was attached, and was referenced on the face sheet of the warrant, it wasn’t referenced in the specific box on the warrant for persons to be searched. Alito dissented that warrants are to be read in a common sense fashion, and that the majority was reading in a too technical fashion.
I have now read three opinions (Casey, Groody, and the kid with the kindergartne poster) and have been impressed by his writings so far. A judge must be “Judged” on the process, and not on the results. For most things, we just have to elect representatives and a president to pass legislaton.
November 4th, 2005 at 5:13 amTo all those who replied, let me ask some questions: am I wrong about what would happen if Roe v. Wade were overturned. Lets get real guys. You can read all of Alito’s writings, but the truth is he would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade when he gets the chance. So would Chief Justice Roberts, in my opinion.
Therefore, you must ask yourself the question: what happens to America if/when Roe v. Wade is overturned? If you right-wingers want to have your own Red State Fiefdoms were the Bible replaces the Constitution, then go ahead. I will move to the Blue State, where there are higher paying jobs, better schools, better roads, better environment, legal abortions, etc…
November 4th, 2005 at 8:28 amWhat color is YOUR handbasket?
November 4th, 2005 at 1:28 pmHey, Liberal idiots – ALL your mothers were pro-life for at least nine months.
And go ahead and secede. PLEASE. Then you’d all have to go find JOBS. Have fun starving when your parents won’t let you secede and take their basement and paid utilities with you. Losers.
November 4th, 2005 at 1:49 pmNo wonder you can’t win an election.
Ralph Hathers, you idiot, the Blue States have all the jobs! The Red States have the higher rates of unemployment, bankruptcies, poverty, high school drop outs, teen pregnancies, etc. If the Blue States seceded who would take care of the Red States? You need to check the facts, LOSER!
November 4th, 2005 at 2:24 pmRalph Hathers, you idiot, the Blue States have all the jobs! The Red States have the higher rates of unemployment, bankruptcies, poverty, high school drop outs, teen pregnancies, etc. If the Blue States seceded who would take care of the Red States? You need to check the facts, LOSER!
Comment by Madacapa
Uhhhh…dumbass, the Blue States have the big cities that house the Walking Dead Losers. If for some unknown reason we lose a few of those cities the world keeps turning around and the USA keeps going (at a much lower income tax rate) The fact is most of the jobs in the Blue States can be done cheaper by India. What? You think we’ve been educating those heathen just because we like curry?
November 4th, 2005 at 8:58 pmHey “I-RIGHT-I am a dumbass”, the Blue States have higher tax rates which means they have better public schools, which means a better educated population. The Red State’s ideology of cutting taxes means their public schools, hospitals, colleges, and roads are inferior to the Blue States. Check the facts: teachers in the Blue States are paid more money, which means they attract better educators.
The Right is Wrong on so many things, not just the War in Iraq, or should I now call it the Struggle against radical Islam?
Bush cut the taxes of the corporations in order to boost the economy, and they then out sourced jobs to India! Yes, Bush has given the USA a million new crappy jobs with no benefits or future.
VOTE Democratic in 2006 and 2008!
November 5th, 2005 at 7:21 am#620
#622
The red states are the biggest suckers on the federal teet (with the exception of DC, the federal capitol), all but Texas receive more in federal dollars than they pay in.
All the states that pay the most and get the least in federal taxes are BLUE states.
From the tax foundation:
States Receiving Most in Federal Spending Per Dollar of Federal Taxes Paid:
1. D.C. ($6.17)
November 5th, 2005 at 10:50 am2. North Dakota ($2.03)
3. New Mexico ($1.89)
4. Mississippi ($1.84)
5. Alaska ($1.82)
6. West Virginia ($1.74)
7. Montana ($1.64)
8. Alabama ($1.61)
9. South Dakota ($1.59)
10. Arkansas ($1.53)
States receiving the LEAST in revenue for taxes paid:
5. Illinois ($0.77)
6. Minnesota ($0.77)
7. Colorado ($0.79)
8. Massachusetts ($0.79)
9. California ($0.81)
10. New York ($0.81)
All but colorado are blue states, and I would not be surprised if Colorado joined the bule state ranks soon.
November 5th, 2005 at 10:52 amAnd, by the way, one of the Blue states above, Minnesota, not only has rather high blue state tax rates but is also home to the city (Minneapolis) with the LOWEST unemployment rate (and the highest eductational attainment) in the United States.
Most big cities in the Blue states have more jobs than people LIVING in red states.
Do you really think that North Dakota and Nebraska have more jobs than Los Angeles, Chicago, Boston or Seattle?
Sheesh!
November 5th, 2005 at 11:05 amThank you, Andrew G, for the information. I feared I lone voice of reason out here. As I said before I am sick and tired of supporting the Red States. The conservative right wing idiots can not deny the facts, but they will try to spin it somehow. VOTE BLUE!
November 5th, 2005 at 11:07 amThanks, I live in a red state, so should know.
November 5th, 2005 at 11:09 amI live in a Red State too, but it is on the edge. I would call it Purple. In 2008, we will be Blue! The Right WingerS can “F” off! VOTE BLUE!
November 5th, 2005 at 1:20 pmHaving stumbled on this site from my surfboard, I will state a few opposing views and go my merry way, knowing I am a minority (for this am I awarded affirmative action?)
November 6th, 2005 at 2:08 am1) discrimination based on race, sex or religion is illegal–or is it? Affirmative action discriminates in favor of unqualified blacks and reds and browns and females but against whites and Asians and males. Is this equality? Who cried foul the loudest over Mier’s then Alito’s nominations? Hispanics and women who wanted affirmative action picks.
2)Alito argued in favor of a NOTIFICATION of the father; the woman still could abort or not abort REGARDLESS of the male’s wishes.
3) As of this moment, liberal France has been burning for 10 days–the result of big business desiring cheap immigrant labor and importing an alien culture that will not assimilate. Islamists are also rioting in Denmark, and a Pakastani-black riot raged in England over the rumored rape of a black girl. Add to those tensions, the blacks thugs who rioted in Toledo, Ohio over an aborted Neo-Nazi march(funny, no Jews rioted) and the savage behavior of a poor black underclass in New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina, and ask yourself “Do we want to solve the illegal alien problem now, or wait until we have another poor disadvantaged angry racial underclass in America?”
Isn’t it RACIST to import hispanics to do the jobs Americans won’t do, to create a racial underclass of menial low-wage workers? Shouldn’t blacks, whites and hispanics compete on an equal footing for the low-end labor as well as the most-skilled? Are hispanics needed to do our lawn work and agricultural work, as is the cliche in trendy California? (I myself landscaped for menial wages while I put myself through college with no race-based grants or loans–there is no shame in that kind of work, or ANY HONEST WORK). WHAT IS HAPPENING IN FRANCE IS OUR FATE.
4) Should Roe Vs. Wade be overturned, it will give EACH INDIVIDUAL STATE the right to make its own laws concerning abortion. Some states will be legal; others illegal. I myself am a supporter of birth control and the “abortion pill”, but am against surgical abortion. (I know, it’s hypocritical and a compromise and out of the mainstream of conservatism).
All this talk about the country splitting in two is silly, unless you consider that liberalism has destroyed every major city and forced the middle-class to the subburbs. Conservatism is the only creed that can save this country from the mad-scientist social engineers who cry “Diversity is strength” and “Celebrate Diversity,” when what they are really saying is “Celebrate Mediocrity,” and “Celebrate the Destruction of the Western World.” And what about this novel thought–a judge who interprets the Constitution instead of making up laws willy-nilly (that is what legislators are for). Thank you for your time. Hopefully I made a few liberals blood boil.
Next riot: a city near you.
Just to blow one or two more gaskets:
November 6th, 2005 at 2:40 amVote conservative 2006
Vote conservative 2008
You guys should chill out.
Conservatives are good people.
I can’t stand all this red state/ blue state crap.
There is nothing wrong with being opposed to abortion, especially late abortions where it’s dreadfully obvious there is a live baby in there.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
We all live together in one world and it’s about time we got along; part of that is liberals learning to appreciate the HUMANITY of conservatives.
best wishes,
November 6th, 2005 at 6:47 amA blue-state Conservative
Conservative ARE good people and would be welcome members of society if they were able to control themselves and not try to force their values onto others.
If conservatives value life then take care of the life that is here — stop worrying about the unborn. It’s none of your business. The Constitution long ago decided that sex was a matter of privacy and that the governnent does not have a right to check under the sheets.
Control your sex; control your smoking, drinking and drugs; control your EATING, and finally control your desires to kill brown people and THEN you will be in a position of moral authority.
The rest of the world will be free to follow. But stop trying to legislate it all while so many are conservatives are OBESE, DRUG USING (over and under the counter) HYPOCRITES.
November 6th, 2005 at 11:31 pmHey – we should just make laws prohibiting everything the bible and our reverend says. The law should control all aspects of a persons choices in thier own lives. After all, can you God-less, Satan-worshiping liberals not remember the HUGE SUCCESS that was PROHIBITION?
It’s obvious that we can tell people how to feel and what to believe just by making it the law… maybe you educated eggheads should read less books and more bible!
“One should never forbid what one lacks the power to prevent.”
November 7th, 2005 at 7:16 am“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”
-Napoleon Bonaparte
Where are the women protesters??? Every Senator should be barraged with oppostion to Alito letters. “You can give rights but you can’t take them away!”
November 7th, 2005 at 7:19 pmTo # 84: (sorry this is a little late)
… and you say you are liberal? “Faggots” is commonly used as slang, for the purpose of telling someone they are homosexual, negitivly, when you also made an offensive comment to the “right wing.”
A) Liberals are NOT homosexual stereotypers or discriminators
B) Civil war? DEMOCRACY! UNITED STATES! Please… move out of America.
C) WAR? LIBERALS? no-no. Ever think about where YOUR tax dollars are going for you conservatives!? Huh? Thanks for bringing us into a growing debt of over 5 billion a month.
PLEASE
November 8th, 2005 at 10:19 pmUnderstand what you are saying before you say it.
Does Alito approve of the Death penalty? Please explain you answer.
November 8th, 2005 at 11:59 pm#632 Jill- exactly how would you claim not to want values “forced” on you, without forcing YOUR values of non-forcing….hmmmmm, value neutrality is impossible by the nature of acting on a decision. Relax, breathe….you’ll be ok…we’ve all suffered from public school indoctrination and still managed to escape.
November 10th, 2005 at 12:40 amInstead of quieting the firestorm over the Supreme Court nominees, Bush has simply exchanged one set of complaints for another. By nominating Alito, he has given both the Left and Right the fight they’ve been waiting for. Let them duke it out, and hope the Right prevails. Otherwise, we might as well kiss our country farewell.
November 10th, 2005 at 12:05 pmWhy don’t all of you do your research a little more and make an intelligent decision on why your are for or against Samuel Alito.
November 10th, 2005 at 4:15 pmgood job for those of you who did =)
November 10th, 2005 at 4:16 pmHere’s a thought about abortion from a pro-choice Republican. When you abort a late-term fetus, aren’t you imposing your values on that fetus? When you oppose notifying the father that you have concieved his child, aren’t you imposing your values on the father?
I offer this thought not to castigate women who decide how to handle an unexpected pregnancy, but to question the moral superiority asserted by those who condemn Republicans for imposing their values.
When Senator Schumer says that he thinks Judge Alito is not a “mainstream jurist”, he is imposing his values. When Senator McCain questions the propriety of our current interrogation techniques during times of war, he is imposing his values. When Diane Feinstein votes against Chief Justice Roberts because she did not “get to know him as a husband and father”, she is imposing her values.
A great deal of our political debate is based upon those values that we hold dear. Whether those values are a woman’s right to chose or the sanctity of human life from the time of conception is irrelevant. What is relevant is that we all would like to have our values adopted by others. It is what brings us to the political process in the first place, and to criticize someone who thinks there values are superior is to criticize everyone who participates in political debate.
November 10th, 2005 at 8:15 pmBush’s pick of Alito is a sound decision. I am looking forward to the overturn of Roe VS Wade, the ban of gay marriage across the the whole country, the ban of stem cell research in California and Massachuttes. Alito is surely a good choice from a conservative point of view and if there is anyone who loves to join the Democrats and left-wing liberals in favor of abortion, evolution and gay and lesbian marriage, or other countercultural
November 11th, 2005 at 2:02 amideas that arose in the 1960s, I believe and hope that he or she will not succeed, and will fail utterly like the Confederacy in the Civil War for favoring slavery.
Bush’s pick of Alito is a sound decision. I am looking forward to the overturn of Roe VS Wade, the ban of gay marriage across the whole country, and the ban of stem cell research in California and Massachuttes. Alito is surely a good choice from a conservative point of view becasue he is unambiguous in terms of values and moral convictions. Bush’s presidency is a success instead of failures as some of his critics say otherwise he would not be chosen for a second term. I am fully in support of the president and his administration mainly because
November 11th, 2005 at 2:22 amhe is Christian, Republican, conservative and hawkish.
Bush’s pick of Alito is a sound decision. I am looking forward to the overturn of Roe VS Wade, the ban of gay marriage across the whole country, and the ban of stem cell studies in California and Massachusetts. Alito is surely a good choice from a conservative point of view because he is unambiguous in terms of values and moral convictions. Bush’s presidency is a success instead of failures as some of his critics say otherwise he would not be chosen for a second term. I am fully in support of the president and his administration mainly because
November 11th, 2005 at 2:25 amhe is Christian, Republican, conservative and hawkish.
I believe:
November 11th, 2005 at 4:44 amIf America was founded a Christian nation in 1776, it should remain a Christian nation. The name of freedom and democracy are not supposed to serve as camouflage and excuse to tolerate or encourage evil like fascism
(election of a totalitarian leader like Mussolini and Adolf Hitler), terrorism (killing of civilians in the name of a holy cause), and fundementally unacceptable and offensive practices like same-sex marriage, child pornography, incest, and polygamy. If we legalize gay marriage today, why would we not legalize sibling sex or prostitution tomorrow? Yes, even the Devil is able to quote the Scriptures, but I am afraid that freedom and democracy are misused and overused for sheltering
evil and social vices more terribly than the Catholic Popes mis-quoted the Bible in the Middle Ages to make a case for a handful of fundementally wrong practices like indulgence system, the doctrine of infallibility of the Pope, worshipping of saints, and exaltation of the clergy. Today freedom and democracy are abused to tolerate gay marriage, election of gay bishops in the Anglican church (or Episcopal Church in America), and
injustice—all in the name of “freedom”, “democracy”,
“minority rights”, “multiculturalism” or “diversity”.
If the Government abuses their power, the people also abuse their “freedom” too, because a true believer of freedom believes that freedom has its limits and that there is an absolute right and wrong instead of moral relativity behind the idea of genuine freedom/rights.
I do not personally believe in abortion but I do believe that a women should have the right to choose what she does with her body. Personally I do not believe that Alito is the best canidate for the job.
November 11th, 2005 at 2:20 pmAlito is a good choice, he is well qualified, no doubt about that. The big controversy however, is whether his appointment will disrupt the dynamic of the court, which it will.
November 11th, 2005 at 6:07 pm#632 Jill- I couldn’t hear you, did you say something……(crickets chirping)…okay! See post #641/Deke for a hint…
November 13th, 2005 at 5:53 pmRE: ALITO SUPPORTS UNAUTHORIZED STRIP SEARCHES
You presentation of this case is a total misrepresentation. First, these strip searches were not “unauthorized”. Second, Alito didn’t “support” the strip search. The case was to interprete whether someone searched in carrying out a warrent was subject to compensatory damages.
Some argue that a warrent to search a premise implicitly include people on premise. Even if you are unpersuaded, documentation attached to the warrent indicated that the warrent was to include all persons on premise. In this case, the arguement was not whether search should be allowed, but whether police search was so unreasonable as to be eligible for compensatory damages to plaintiffs.
Plaintiffs agrued that because box on search warrent form was not completed properly (remember request was in other attached documentation), that not only should evidence found during personal search not be used, but that ‘victims’ of such search should be eligible for damages.
You might find that when presented the ‘facts’, reasonable people would agree with Alito.
November 14th, 2005 at 1:06 pmIts amazing to me that liberals think that the ripping out of mothers wombs the future of America is holding this country together (Roe v Wade)…….and you guys say that Bush is pushing us into the stone age? What a bunch of Nazi morons!
November 16th, 2005 at 9:51 amTo K and others who want to “split the country” over the Alito nomination, we tried that once…it didn’t work. I have a better idea. If you love Canada so much, there’s a train leaving every hour. Democracy is MESSY. The Constitution is CLEAR. It is the LEFTISTS ON THE COURT, BEGINNING WITH THE FDR APPOINTMENTS that ignored precedents and got us into this mess. We won the election BECAUSE BUSH PROMISED TO APPOINT REAL JURISTS. Maybe next time you ought to try to convince the American voters that your side actually has some ideas that will make America better. Oh that’s right, your only idea is “Bush is BAD.” Get over it. The election is OVER.
November 17th, 2005 at 3:04 pm[...] ThinkProgress has a critical review of the nomination, complete with hyperbolic descriptions of a few of Judge Alito’s opinions. Julian Sanchez and Patrick ‘Patterico’ Frey both respond. [...]
November 21st, 2005 at 2:11 pmThis may be enough but the partisan nature of the fight scares me. One really vulnerable point for Alito is that he’s been overturned and even rebuked several times. Do you have the resources to run the stats on this? Of the judges at his level, not many judges to assess, the number of cases/year is easy. How hard are overturned cases and especially rebukes to count? And how does he stand? Is it bad enough to call for impeachment?
November 22nd, 2005 at 1:43 pmYour comments on strip searches reflect half truths designed to mislead. The search was done by a female officer and the girl was accompanied by her drug dealer father. It is common for dealers to use kids as carriers for their drugs.
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:28 pmNewsflash: We already live in two Americas…
granted you probably wouldn’t understand the meaning of this using the word ‘weenie’ to articulate yourself.
November 23rd, 2005 at 2:27 pmIf you folks were not happy with the re-election of George W. Bush in 2004, please pack your baggages and leave America, until someone you like come into power.
November 23rd, 2005 at 5:11 pmYou have no idea what freedom and democracy are about: While you are free to express your opinion and speech in a democratic country, you are obliged to accept and respect a free and properly conducted election outcome
even if you are not happy with it. Therefore it is both objectionable and dishonorable to go back and complain about it. I believe that it can be, more seriously, a criminal offense, according to the United States federal Law, to utter, print, write, or publish anything that incites rebellion, political subversion, armed insurrection or secession (no matter you are US citizen or foreigners) against the United States federal government. In a legal sense, I believe, your statements above suggesting a “civil war”, if taken seriously, can get you into jail, in war times, on charges of sedition, treachery, incition of violence, or/and sabotage, if convicted. Your rights of freedom of speech and expression protected by the Constitution as American citizens doesn’t give you a license to say anything with impunity. Please mind your language next time because your inflammatory speech may bring you long-term repercussions if forwarded to the United States Government federal authority (Pls refer to the 2001 USA Patriot Act/the 1798 Alien and Sedition Acts).
If you are not happy with this, again, you are always free to pack up and leave the country permanantly with your American passport. Thank you!
Hello to all the irregular Americans,
Imagine for one moment, America split in two, blue and red. You marxists would gladly take everything north of sin city, CA, and points north. We regular Americans would claim everything in between as Freedom Land. Surrounded of course by The New Communist Peoples Union. In due time, our free markets, unregulated economic atmosphere, and low taxes would spur growth. Consequently, businesses and the productive people who would like to spend the money that they earned would gladly move to Freedom Land. Then, power would of course return to the states and local communities. Liberal Land would go broke! Who would want to live there!? Where would people work!? How could you libs tax the hell out of us!?
November 23rd, 2005 at 9:40 pm1.Bush and Blair = Roosevelt (FDR) and Churchill
November 24th, 2005 at 10:01 am2.GOP Republican Conservatives = Union and Anti-slavery abolitionists in 1860s
3.Lincoln (Republican) = Reagan/Eisenhower/Theodore Roosevelt (Republican)
4.Democrat/ Left-Ring Liberal/ Anti-Bush + Anti-Government = Confederates/ secessionists/ slave-
holder and KKK
5.Bush = Reagan = Eisenhower and Lincoln = Roosevelt =
Washington
6.VI Lenin/ Joe Stalin = Hitler + Mao = Pol Pot and other evil tyrants
7.Anti-Bush Liberals = Anti-Union = Pro-slavery = Jefferson Davis/Confederates/Robert Lee
8.Rumsfield = Grant　/　Sherman…..
[...] A nice summary of facts regarding Samuel Alito’s stance on some important issues in America. [...]
November 26th, 2005 at 8:30 amThink back a few years when President Clinton nominated Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Everyone was aware of her affiliation with the ACLU; in spite of that, many senators who were not thrilled with her politics voted to affirm because she was, and is, an intelligent, articulate woman with terrific credentials. In addition, the nomination appeared to be well within the presidential prerogative. President Bush has now nominated Samuel Alito, whose credentials are roughly on a par with Ginsburg’s. Those who disagree with Alito’s politics are bound and determined to ensure that he is rejected, screaming like a herd of scalded moose and making absurd comments about “splitting the country.” Obviously the situation is not precisely the same, but why is the reaction so different? Are there any legitimate distinctions or is it all politics? I fear it is the latter . . . and what we are now experiencing does not bode well for the future of the Court or the country.
November 29th, 2005 at 9:29 pm[...] Think Progress surveys the changes America will face with Sam Alito on the Supreme Court. [Aristocracy] – Midday Roundup: Surveys [...]
November 30th, 2005 at 2:51 pmI’m getting sick of complaining about how the government is corrupt. Why don’t we do something about it instead of letting them herd us like cattle? This is not the democracy the pilgrems dreamed of when leaving England! Look at the supreme court. Every single one of them are religious! They are imposing their beliefs on the people. Why should a woman be forced to give birth to a man’s child? Obviously the voting is rigged- why don’t we just split?! I am sick of Republicans playing puppeteer with our country! If we ever survive global disaster from greenhouse gas emissions we are certainly going to have to do something about the corrupt ways of the leaders of America. What happened to the spirits of the revolutionaries from our history?
December 2nd, 2005 at 4:40 pm[...] When Samuel Alito was first nominated, ThinkProgress sketched out a vision of Alito’s America, where privacy and reproductive rights are trampled, employees are excluded from job safety laws, public health protections are struck down, and workplace discrimination is given the blind eye. [...]
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http://www.alitosamerica.org
December 15th, 2005 at 2:04 pmresponing to 14. you mean 1950’s b.c. right? this nation is living in b.c. time now. is dese states really gonna split. Hell, i’m all for dat long as i’m in a blue state(i voted for kerry, act of common sense.).
December 16th, 2005 at 1:20 pmYou guys are very lib for no reason do you even stop to think about why you believe this stuff?And a new study shows that polution is slowing down global warming.republicins are the reason for the blacks not being slaves to you people on your plantations! IN CASE YOU FORGOT LINCOLN WAS A REPUBLICIN!
December 28th, 2005 at 10:37 pmI dont get you people i just dont get it. Why do you kill babies? Did you know that this “tissue” crys when it is bieng killed by thhe doctors?
December 29th, 2005 at 1:18 pmresponding to jessica here:DAH the woman chose to have sex with the guy so it is her job to give berth to the child and in a rape case,maybe she should not tempt the guy by wearing provocitive clothes!And the pilgrams believed in freedom of religon so everyone Musilim, Christain,Islamic, and jew may practice there beliefs without provention from the govorment or spiecal rightes to 1 group or the other!I dont think the goverAnd like i said studies now prove that polution slows down global warming.
December 29th, 2005 at 1:30 pmSort of says it all.
http://www.carlsheeler.com/sheeler_on_alito.asp
January 4th, 2006 at 10:07 amIt’s disgusting how stupid some of the people on this board are. Whether you agree with him or not, Alito’s the best you can get, in that he’s an intelligent logical man. Yes, he’s conservative. That’s what happens when you have a ten seat advantage and a Republican in office. For conservatives, he’s great, he provides a reasonable man who puts forward their ideologies in a presentable way. For liberals, he’s really the best they can hope for. What’s that? He’s against abortion?! Gasp!
January 8th, 2006 at 4:40 pmI hate to break it to you guys, but Bush isn’t going to be nominating a pro-choice nominee anytime soon.
[...] reasons why alito shouldn’t be on the supreme court: 1, 2, and 3. [...]
January 8th, 2006 at 10:36 pmHELL NO TO ALITO!!!
January 9th, 2006 at 2:44 pmi have bigger dick than samuel alito
January 10th, 2006 at 9:53 amThe Democratic Party is hopeless. Especially in the face of the current unified (around white washing christians) the Republicans. Political Life in this country is doomed to replay itself over and over with this two party system until it self destructs. The us and them mentality will be our down fall. Preoccupied as we are with our issues and little wars the world will pass us by unless we attain some higher ideals for ourselves.
January 10th, 2006 at 11:08 amWe all know the Alito is a right wing extremist. We all know that. But what do we do about it? Keep calling our senators and tell them to vote NO on Alito. If we don’t keep calling, they won’t know about the progressives in their constituency. It’s URGENT!!!!
January 10th, 2006 at 11:51 amAlito will infringe upon plantation owners’ right to own slaves! Now, I’m not for slavery, but I am pro-choice!
Also, my friend Achmed, an Al Qaeda operative in Afghanistan who has been calling my other friend Dave about how to make bombs, will be thrilled if he can do so without his line being tapped in the future. Surf Wisely!
-dolst
PS: First person to make the most blatantly obvious joke about my name gets a cookie!*
*(Don’t hold your breath.)
January 10th, 2006 at 9:38 pmAnyone else see the BORK ALITO shirts? Sending one to my Sentator. http://www.goodstorm.com/stores/leftink
January 11th, 2006 at 1:05 amI just want to know how Alito avoided the draft in 69 when he was draftable. What was his draft number?
January 11th, 2006 at 9:38 amhis draft number was 32.
January 11th, 2006 at 1:00 pmGo Alito!!!! He will overturn Roe! All You babykillers get ready! Maybe now we will stop legislating from the bench.
January 11th, 2006 at 3:35 pmAfter reading the vast amounts of bull of seceding from the United States and joining Canada, I have concluded that the age old battle of republican versus democrat issues are way too common in today’s society. We Americans are endlessly finding ways to argue about on subject, however large or small, with the main topic of the political parties in mind. Such divisions amongst us are tearing us apart, allowing foriegn powers to grow stronger each and every day until they have advanced beyond the United States. Like many advocates on both sides have stated, the most essential object for this improvement is education and the best way to ensure that a child gains an education is for the parent to remind their child constantly that an education is important. It doesn’t really matter if the state the live in is a “Blue State” or a “Red State”. All that matters is that they live in the United States which is a land that an individual, through perseverance, courage, and a high level of maturity, can achieve their dreams. The statements posted in the blog above are half lies, much more similar to a form of propaganda than news. Also, Judge Alito’s view points may not exist to the public majority’s (or the very vocal minority’s) liking but then again I doubt that when such cases such as Brown vs. The Board of Education were very popular with everyone. It’s also a well tested theory that people change over time. Alito’s view’s may be different twenty years ago than they are today. The idea of planting Supreme Court Judges for a particular party has been practiced for years, long before either of the two George Bushs have walked on this Earth. I believe that the hearings will precede and he will be elected by the majority of Congress to become the next Supreme Court Judge.
P.S. the incredible amounts of basic “name-calling” on the posts is humuorous. A pot smoking teenager (which I presume most of the previous bloggers would dislike) has more dignity than to stoop to such a childish level.
January 12th, 2006 at 1:05 amI believe that bush is using alito to gain even more power to the powerful. Cant you people see that everything in our lives is run or created by someone else? look around you… MAjor Corps. are run by people influenced by the ILLUMINATI (look it up)… Bush, Kerry, Alito, they are all apart of secret societies much more prominent than your average frat. Remember the secrets you had to keep in your punny frat? well bush and kerry cant talk about sertain stuff either…Whether it be the Skull and crossbones of yale (bush and kerry) or princtons concerned BS. group (alito). They are all constructing a master plan to survaliance and to control all.. Listen people, within the next couple years our ID’s will have chips in them (look at the UK) and our every move will be followed and stored in a NSA database were you cant get them. All it takes is to look at HISTORY!!! Hitler did the same thing! Jews replaced by terrorists, protesters in concentration camps (new york and other big cities) and set up the followers for war…. League of nations didn’t work in WW1 to control the world so they created the U.N after Hitlers failed 3rd Reich… INFOWARS.COM …becouse theres a war out there for your mind…
January 12th, 2006 at 3:52 amThe biggest problem with all of you is that you think the theliberals are the ones who only know best how others should live. That is the arrogance that has led you to the position of being marginalized in the process.
January 12th, 2006 at 2:49 pmGood luck in all of your foolish, mindless squawking.
Splitting America in two might not be a bad idea. The Democrats would be a country of malcontents with Ted Kennedys and Howard Deans running things negatively, while the Republicans will thrive as a country that can stand on their own two feet, defend their country against evil, and keep more government at bay. The Democrats would beg the Republicans to allow them back.
January 12th, 2006 at 4:42 pmKennedy has a lot of nerve attacking Alito. A man of his background and history, should not try to moralize. Very hypocritical. Why do the good folks of Massachusetts elect him? I really want to know???
January 12th, 2006 at 4:45 pmI love it when liberals have nothing credible to attack someone on. They begin to worry about Draft Nos. At least Alito did not go to Vietnam with a film company to shoot photos he could use to get him into the Supreme Court (like Kerry). He just studied at Princeton and Yale and got a stellar education and DIDN’T WINE.
January 12th, 2006 at 4:49 pmLets all keep in mind that its not simply the right-wing conservatives that are driving a wedge into what makes this country great! It is also the far-left! From the ACLU in its ever present need to sue anyone that wants to do a simple prayer before a football game. This shouldn’t even be an issue! But on the flip side, the religious-right and many of its cronies (Coulter, O’Reilly, Limbough…..etc) love the fact that these non-issues can be so easily made into a big deal…or just like last month’s so called ‘War on Christmas’
January 12th, 2006 at 5:19 pmYou can add to this the laziness of too many Americans that are unwilling to pickup a book, magazine, or search the net for other forms of info that certainly isnt given to us on Fox (I refuse to call it News) Opinion
And Judge Alito’s (ask yourself: Do you know enough about this guy to have an opinion? I know that I do and I for one am very concerned and yet I agree that he is smart and judicially qualified – 15 years but his personal feelings seem to influence many of his judgements see: an overview of his many rulings and his feelings behind them!) nomination is a shinning example of this administrations inability to accept the fact that more than 60% of this country has lost faith in these guys.
I’m not religious, in fact I’m an agnostic, but I respect everyones right to their religious beliefs and firmly believe that anyone that is to be a judge (at any level) should do so based on the laws of the land, the facts presented, and the majority of the populas and not what he believe to be right!
I can only stress that this country was founded on many shades of grey (not black and white like the neo-cons would like for us to believe) in everything but the most obvious: Murder, rape, and assult; to name three (which is why we have laws making these illegal) everything else need to be debated properly, as it should be, which is what makes America great!!
Sorry about the hyperlink miscue everyone….I obviouly made a gramatical error in trying to end it (the hyperlink I mean)
January 12th, 2006 at 5:22 pmIt’s interesting how people complain about Alito in light of him replacing Sandra Day O’Connor because of her status as a swing vote. Might I remind you that Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a well-renown liberal, who was approved by over 90 votes to less than 10 against for the court, replaced Byron White, who actually voted against Roe in 1972!!! If you don’t believe me… check the facts!! I think it is hypocritical to not approve a more than well-qualified justice to the Supreme Court just because you don’t agree with their politics. Bush is not and will not put the liberal you want up there. Anyway, MURDER should not be a constitutional right!!
January 12th, 2006 at 7:05 pmMy question about Alito’s draft number stems from an observation that Chicken Halks are taking over. Most Chicken Halks only understand war academically because they don’t even know any military personel.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:31 pmIn Alito’s case he could have joined when his country needed him but he didn’t so my question seems reasonable. The most patriotic and honerable people in this country are military and teachers. Judges are way down on the list.
Isn’t it amazing how Judge Alito’s rulings on the side of government, occasionally, is the worst thing that he could ever do for America. I thought liberals want government to be the solution to all our problems? Are we not to completly trust in our elected officials? Since, according to liberals, plain old citizens have no idea what is best for them. Which way do you want it? I’m confused.
January 13th, 2006 at 12:09 amIn light of some of the comments about the “constitutional right” to “murder”, I think it’s interesting to note the views of those that have posted and those I have talked to (of whom, in my experience, are ill-informed at best, outright ignorant at worst).
Many believe that abortion shouldn’t be legal, except in cases of rape or incest. This view, held by many right-wing politicians (most of whom are male) doesn’t add up. God says life begins at conception if and only if the sex was consensual and not with a relative? That doesn’t make sense. They want to restrict a woman’s right to decide the fate of her reproductive organs and what takes place inside of them for POWER, no other reason. They want to punish the woman for being a “whore” by making her wear her scarlet letter and raise a child she can’t afford. Interestingly enough, these “compassionate conservatives” also want to cut back on programs for helping raise those unwanted children, as well as those designed to educate those women in the first place to prevent unwanted pregnancy.
No one I’ve ever known who has had an abortion has ever wanted to have to do it. No one says, “Damn that felt good! I can’t wait to get knocked up again so I can have another one!” despite what Jerry Falwell would have you believe.
Bush has balls, man. He’s got nuts the size of softballs to nominate a character like Alito to the Supreme Court and risk pissing off 51% of the population of the country he’s supposed to be serving. He has afforded thus far to completely ignore, say, the entire African American population, about 18%–he can easily make that up through his friends at Diebold. But over half the American population–think about that. It’s frightening to think about how much power he believes he has (and he may or may not actually have it) that he can afford to pull a stunt like this.
January 13th, 2006 at 1:00 amIn response to #690:
As far as “liberals loving government” is concerned, I think that died a while back. I would have to say (and I am joined by old-schooler Pat Buchanan on this one) that conservatives, traditionally, believe in less federal government and more state government, with fewer taxes and more privacy. Liberals, traditionally, believe in more federal government and less state government, more taxes with more return for everybody. Liberals believe that by sharing their toys, everyone has a better time.
I thought the day would never come that I would find myself agreeing with Pat Buchanan on anything. But let’s bust out the ice skates and put on a sweater, because hell has indeed frozen over. I saw him a while back on Larry King Live voicing his distaste for our current administration and those in it who call themselves “conservative” when indeed they are not. We are, as Mr. Buchanan has said, experiencing HUGE government, whose officials are claiming conservatism when really it smells a bit more like fascism. Bush does what he wants, when he wants to. If he wants to go through your library records, or even tap your phone, he does it. If he wants to tap the phones of members of his own administration, he does it. Not a very conservative way of running things–at least according to Mr. Buchanan.
Liberals don’t believe that ordinary citizens can’t be trusted to know what’s best for them. That’s why many of us are opposed to the Electoral College and why we got so mad about the Diebold scandal in Ohio and computerized voting machines with no paper trails. If we thought that the democratic process was bunk, we wouldn’t be so touchy about being disenfranchised.
And another thing–our “elected” officials either aren’t really elected or are elected under dubious circumstances. And let’s be honest here: it’s an auction, not an election. It happens on both sides of the two major parties.
I’m honestly not sure of your point, other than possibly, “You liberals should be eating this up right now because you love being controlled by the government!” Newsflash: the Republicans are in power. (In all three branches of our supposed “checks and balences” style government.) Liberal politicians, if only relative liberals, are not. Liberal constituents have even less power than do the politicians that are allegedly representing them. We do not enjoy being dominated any more than you do. That’s why we’re upset.
January 13th, 2006 at 1:41 amThe Democratic Party is done….we cannot go on any longer…we have destroyed ourselves. We are a bunch of spoiled brats, hippie burnouts, children who never listened to our parents and cannot control our children now.
January 13th, 2006 at 3:17 amDemocrats!!! Wake up! You have lost the respect of the majority of Americans. You are out of touch with the American people. You allow people like Howard Dean to be your poster boy. The American people percieve Dems anti-religous, anti-morals, ant-traditions, anti-values. You have destroyed your own party. Congratulations!!! The Republicans love you guys. I think Dems are awesome, b/c you help the republicans win elections. You would rather put out your liberal agenda, and bash Bush more than concentrating on winning elections.
January 13th, 2006 at 10:39 amYou People should be glad someone like Teddy Boy Kennedy Can’t be appionted.
January 13th, 2006 at 6:11 pmI predict that next election time , it’s for the democrats, going 3side of government to win.
January 13th, 2006 at 11:13 pmSo what if Roe is overturned, then the people in the states get to vote on the issue. In some states it will be legal in others it wont, the people will decide WHAT A CONCEPT! Oh and I heard Alito doesnt like puppy dogs either….that bastard
January 13th, 2006 at 11:19 pmIf abortion was made illegle in your state would you move?
January 14th, 2006 at 9:58 amWhen abortion was made legal did you go and get one?
will your life change dramaticly if the people are allowed to vote on it.
There is no choice if none is givin.
It is to late alito is going to be in a there is nothing that anyone can do about it
January 14th, 2006 at 10:07 amahahhahahahahahahahahhahahaha
January 14th, 2006 at 10:08 ammuhahahahaha muhahahahhaha muhahaha muhahahaha
January 14th, 2006 at 10:09 amI think that we Librials should all just go find our own little Monicas and go crawl in a hole with them and stay there for awhile.
January 14th, 2006 at 10:14 amI would like to apolgize for my earlier out of controlness but I find it very excitiing that alito will be the new swingvote on the court ao that roe v wade might be overturned and murder of helpless babies will stop
January 14th, 2006 at 11:02 amhaha! although 80% of the media is against alito he’s still gonna win! all you liberals know how to do is complain.. guess what? ALITO’S STILL GONNA WIN! death to ted kennedy! btw democrats arnt gonna controlt the senate/ house for a while
January 14th, 2006 at 2:10 pmMy, my we are all getting a bit testy!
January 14th, 2006 at 7:02 pmTo clear the posibility of being misunderstood (see comment 686) I, in no way meant that murder is or should be a constitutional right I was just trying to point out that the obvious laws of this country (or any other modern country) that make murder, rape, and assault illegal and would carry mandatory jail time were based on the 10 commandments (as I sais in 686 I’m an agnostic so I dont know enough of this list (beyond the few that I mentioned) not that I need this list to be a moral person and do what is expected of me as a person. And before anyone presumes that I’m blowing the 10 commandment off….I’m not. I may not be able to quote it or the bible, but I’m simply saying that there are many of us that dont need church or religion to be a good moral person!
Now, on to Judge Alito: As a liberal, my biggest concern about him is that he, as an (undisputed) conservative I am troubled by his inability to answer all the ‘hard’ questions brought forth to him (by the dems….as the repubs seem to want to chat with him and offer their already decided vote for him and maybe a few weak questions here and there that I wonder if he is giving the answers that we all want to hear (like what Thomas did in 91′)
and not the ones that we need to hear (where he truely stands on any issue). Does Alito’s presence on the Supreme Court mean that Roe v Wade would be overturned? Its posible, but lets keep in mind that at least 62% of this country doesnt trust government much anymore and I would have to believe that there would be a bigger outcry than ever before for an issue such as abortion (which as a father of three I’m all for)
And before those of you say what your gonna say, I say this: Lets say that abortion is made illegal, do you really think that it going to stop them from occuring? What? Are we going to put women in jail for getting one? Thats as pathetic as putting a guy in jail for having drugs that he intended to use only on himself! And for those of you that complain and shout about abortion being against God, then I ask you this: If you are so hard up in having nothing better to do than to play mind games with some woman about to have an abortion, would you be willing to help pay for a baby that she cant afford? (another kid on welfare) I thought you compassionate conservatives love helping people in need? I know what your thinking: Adoption? yes, I know there are some decent people that would, but there are many that would neglect that child and he/she would likely end up in jail or posibly, it could end up being the guy that finds the cure for cancer! But that leads to what I said before: would you be as willing to offer money to help support the child (so as to stop the abortio) as easily as you offer up sarcasm, name calling, anger and vile?
And if (see comment 694) really believes that liberals are out of touch with America he/she isn’t even living on the Earth, let alone America. Yes, there are many more moderate conservatives and moderate liberals that may be closer in what they believe in than the far right or left!! America is about the majority not a small fraction (which is why the far left is as pathetic as the far right!!)
And I certainly wont say that the republicans are any more a disgrace for the whole Abramoff scandal any more that I would say that those few Dems that have done the same (not with Abramoff, but haven’t been caught yet) are a disgrace too! But right now its the republicans (that run all three branches of the government and have the mass media behind them all the way and yet they still can get away with breaking the laws of the land! Can you say “Tom Delay!!”
I now leave the floor to the next guy that will inevitably bring up as many dems names as posible to make what the repubs are going through not seem so bad. You cant at this time and you know it, but I know you will try……
Your insane babblings are humorous. Unfortunately you and your followers are not joking. Your views are such that I am afraid you represent a small but growing number of idiots that would, if you had your way, drive decency and reason out of this country leaving us a large population of selfish, immoral, nitwits – vulnerable to a growing terrorist community that laughs at your irresponsible plight.
January 15th, 2006 at 1:19 amThis is my email to one of my representatives about my other representative. By the way, I am posting it where ever I can. “I fed up with this crap and I’m not going to take it anymore.”
January 15th, 2006 at 6:04 pmI will try again to post it!
Dear Senator Boxer,
I was some what expecting to read/hear what I did today, but seeing to this statement by Senator Diane Feinstein, on Yahoo no less, just put me over the edge. This is what compelled me to write you today.
Here is a copy of the Yahoo post;
“By HOPE YEN Associated Press Writer
The Associated PressThe Associated Press
WASHINGTON Jan 15, 2006 — A Democrat who plans to vote against Samuel Alito sided on Sunday with a Republican colleague on the Senate Judiciary Committee in cautioning against a filibuster of the Supreme Court nominee.
“I do not see a likelihood of a filibuster,” said Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. “This might be a man I disagree with, but it doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be on the court.”
She said she will not vote to confirm the appeals court judge, based on his conservative record. But she acknowledged that nothing emerged during last week’s hearings to justify any organized action by Democrats to stall the nomination.
Top Stories
* Feinstein Warns Against Alito Filibuster
* Lawmakers Seeking House Post Tout Reform
* Responding to Alito
“If there’s a filibuster of this man based on his qualifications, there would be a huge backlash in this country,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C. He is one of 14 centrist senators who defused the Senate’s showdown over judicial filibusters last year, saying such a tactic is justified only under extraordinary circumstances.
The committee’s top Democrat, Sen. Patrick Leahy of Vermont, said last week that unidentified Democrats will “exercise their rights” to delay a committee vote that Republicans sought for Tuesday.
Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada has called on party members to hold off making a decision until after a meeting Wednesday.
Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., would not rule out a filibuster, saying committee Democrats were still going through the hearing transcripts and awaiting answers to written questions.
“It’s premature to say anything till we fully assess the record,” said Schumer, who appeared with Graham on “Fox News Sunday.”
But Feinstein, who said she was concerned about Alito’s conservative record on abortion rights and deference to executive power, acknowledged the 15-year appellate judge had the legal credentials to serve on the Supreme Court.
“I was impressed with his ability to maintain a very even demeanor,” she said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”
“I think there is an additional weight you must give to his background, his qualifications and his ability,” she said. ”
Senator Feinstein’s position, stated above, to vote “No” on Alito’s nomination, but refuses to support a Filibuster of the nomination demonstrates a lack of conviction to Women’s Rights/Equal Rights!
January 15th, 2006 at 6:06 pmThis tells me that this person does not represent the majority of California women that have voted for her. Obviously she does not feel this position would be reflected in her attempts for re-election for her seat. It could also mean that she does not plan to run for this seat in 2006, or that she doesn’t worry about getting the votes. The later could be explained by the fact that our voting is not without fraud. Most of all the position she is putting forward in the “AP” article does not represent the party that she is filed under, “Democrat”.
Please meet with your fellow Democratic Senators and bring this issue forward. I can tell you that I will do everything I can to fight Senator Feinstein’s re-election if she does not step up and show the Democrats of California that she represents us and not Corporate America. This is the same way people feel about Senator Hillary Clinton. This is not a “Middle Ground Position”. This is throwing to the beast “Women’s Rights”!
completely INsane.
January 15th, 2006 at 8:01 pmTo Jack (Comment 707)
If you are refering to my points and thoughts as insane babblings, I guess I’m going to have to be the one that has to tell you that you are exactly the kind of close-minded American that I was writting about. Sadly there are way to many people like you in this great country! Of course, if that is the only argument that you can come up with; by calling me names and attempting to reduce my arguments in such a child-like manner, well, you certainly have proven my point that its people like you that are the ones destroying the fabric of this country with your inabilility to educate yourself or even attempt to refute my points and then in contempt to the very nature of freedom and liberty you and your kind wrap yourselves in the flag and claim to be the true patriots to freedom. I shudder to think that there are as many as it seems of your kind!
Of course, I’m no doubt wasting my time even bothering with a….person such as yourself. You and people like you that are unwilling to listen to more than Fox Opinion, Rush or Ann should be grateful that this country allows you to vote by being 18 and having not been a felon, because if your ability to know what was truely going on in this country and be able to debate properly was also a requisit to voting its quite posible that this country wouldnt be in the condition that its in.
Like I had reminded everyone: This country was founded on Freedom of Choice, Religion, Speech, and Press….and on down the Bill Of Rights and the other 17 amendments that go with it, tolerance, change, betterment & equality for all!
This is what America is supposed to be about and if Judge Alito (the reason this posting got started) is confirmed we can all only hope that he administers his rulings with this in mind)
If you had actually read what I wrote you’d have realized that I said “those on the far right and left are the ones helping destroy what this country is supposed to stand for”
January 15th, 2006 at 11:14 pmand it seems that you fit that definition to a tee!
Just reported on CNN Headline News … Senator Lindsay Graham was quoted as saying “If there is a filibuster, there will be a huge backlash in this country.” Ok, Senator. Just where would that huge backlash come from? The 38% minority that still back this administration?
January 16th, 2006 at 12:41 amMy Take On It,
38% still back Bush?? I had no idea that he was still that popular! I would have figured 18%-24% but either way, you are right that Senator Graham is out of touch if he thinks that much if any backlash would be the case (other than all those useless ditto-heads and Fox Opinion zombies out there) and I doubt that even the mass-media would buy into it too much!
January 16th, 2006 at 8:33 pmLets all encourage our Democratic and those few moderate Republican Sentors to filibuster this guy Alito and show Bush that we the majority dont buy into his BS anymore!!
I’m with Grandma, sort of. I am a real patriot and I love my country but I would hate to see this country as GW and his PNAC would have it. I have been blessed and am educated and not poor, but still I feel sorry for the poor and disadvantaged in this country and I truly hate to see all the things that our anti-Robin Hood President is accomplishing for the richest 2% in this country.
I swear though, if I ever get as hungry as some of the people that will be further fu…ed by the neocons, I will eat……..republicans. You will easily recognize me. I’ll be the one picking all the meat…..out of my teeth.
January 17th, 2006 at 12:11 pmWe’re well aware of Alito’s Agenda yet somethen done about it. The senate just straight on needs to vote NO on his appointment for the bench. They need to be basing the NO vote on these ideals- his records and on the voiced concerns of the public- especially basing at least half of their NO vote on the voiced concerns of women.
January 17th, 2006 at 4:24 pmKudos to Jack and Thoughtful Moderate. They’re right. Reason is lacking. Apart from them one illogical diatbribe after another. Alito is a well-qualified appointment. Did anyone expect Bush to nominate someone more sympathetic to “progressive” agendas. c’mon – use your noodle a little bit. Hell, at least Alito’s been a judge before.
January 19th, 2006 at 9:11 amWOW,, your all so… there isn’t even a good word to use. This country isn’t going anywhere..and what the hell is this talk about the country splitting in two!! Are you crazy or just plain stupid…do you want another civil war or something. In the last six years we have had a lot of destruction and many problems, but if you haven’t noticed, every single one of you still get up in the morning and go to work and see your children and live your lives with out much worry. Im sure you don’t wake up in the morning and cry to yourself about how you might die today, hell you probably don’t even thing about it for 2 seconds…cause as americans we have the greatness to do this. Because we live in such a great country you can do this… go on and blame bush for everything, thats about childish… those of you that have children know that when something happens its not their fault, its the neigbor kid, or their brother or sister… thats what you are all doing here.. blaming everything on one single man…and thats so stupid. The US has a powerful and patriotic military that does what it has to do to keep you all safe, and as a part of that military i must say I love what i do whether i agree with it or not.. bush hasn’t made all the right decisions but he hasn’t made all the wrong decisions either.. there is no such as perfection! And don’t even think for a moment and say to yourselves “well clinton had no problems” your right, nothing happened during his presidency to have to make any important decisions.. hell he had so much time on his hands that when he sat at work bored as hell cause our country was running itself that he could get a little oral pleasure from the nice intern girl from down the hallway.. such a good moral man that is. Let me say, you all can sit and complain about everything if you want…once again you have that right cause of this country and don’t forget that you have soldiers fighting for that right so maybe you should all grow up and stop bitchin for a little bit and grow a little respect for your government instead of put it down all the time.. you might find that life becomes a little less stressful when you don’t have to worry so much about one mans decisions and you can think more about your familys and friends.. this country isn’t going anywhere for a long, long time! We are to rich and to powerful for one man to destroy it… maybe you people should think above the age of say 20 from now on instead of talkin like 10 year olds in 5th grade who now nothing except what cnn tells them.. grow up people and remember your lucky to be where you are…
January 19th, 2006 at 1:57 pmDaniel,
I agree with much of what you say. While I would agree with you also that Bush can’t be to blame for everything and I for one haven’t presumed that while others might have, but if you look closely to what many people say in here and other blogs you would realize that when many of us refer to Bush being a bad and lying president it is easier than saying: Dick Cheney, Condi Rice, Scott McClellan, Donald Rumsfield, Karl Rove, Paul Wolfowitz, John Bolten….etc
January 19th, 2006 at 8:52 pmOne could say (like I have: Bush & Co). We could include in this the whole right-wing ideologs that go by many names: Fox Opinion (Bill O’Rielly for one), Rush Limbough, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity and so on.
There has been plenty of facts that have come to lite on Bush & Co inability to tell the truth on just about everything and we can certainly include Judge Alito’s insistance on skirting every question with non-answers.
Yes Daniel, you are right, this country is bigger than this entire administration and it will be just fine in that regard, ignore those in here that talk of splitting this country (you’re right to say they are acting as children)
I and probably most of us would also agree that a little bit of lying ans secrecy is expected from any government, even ours. But when you have a president that insists that he and he alone has the right under the constitution to say who can be tortured or arrested or seached without the protection of the fourth amendment and a wanna be Supreme Court Justice that has openly said that he agrees to that, I call a man like that a law breaker who wraps himself in the flag to keep from losing that grip on power. Please, Clinton didnt even go anywhere near this kind of power grab and the right-winger were all over him saying that he was.
The Patriot Act is a prime example of that and the trampling of the FISA Act law of 1978 could easily have awarded the same ability to Bush to do what needs to be done in the protection of ‘We the People’.
This is a right-wing neo-con power grab of the worst kind since Nixon. But again Daniel, most of what you say is true, but as a soldier (for which I’m thankful for your sacrifice) I know that you are not able to speak aloud in the negative (I know this because I worked on a military base as a civilian contractor and made friends with many soldiers from the lowest NCO’s up to Colonels and all had viewpoints close to my own but like you knew that they had a job to do)
Don’t fall for the two Americas myth!! This ‘red-state/blue-state’ divide was created by the media for various reasons, number one of which was simply to create a good story. There are no two United States! Read Thomas Frank’s book “What’s the Matter with Kansas”. He explains it well, I think.
January 20th, 2006 at 10:48 amStephanie M,
I totally second that!! I read “What’s The Matter With Kansas” also. And you are so right on its premise!
The sad part is is that some on the right-wing side of things wouldn’t look or read the book simply because Limbough or O’Reilly told them so. To all you neo-cons out there…..Read this with an open mind. Its by far a better read than any of Ann Coulter’s books and this actually has legitimate facts unlike her books
I would encourage everyone to read this book and I have a recommendation of another one: “Dumbing Down Our Kids” by Charles Sykes. It has lots to say so be willing to read lots of details in small print, which this book has.
January 21st, 2006 at 4:20 pmPeople have been lied to constantly, how many of you believe the media is liberal? If you believe the media is liberal then you have fallen into the rhetorical bias of corperate america. Anyone who is stupid enough to believe that the media is liberal first must check their facts. Facts and statistics don’t lie, people with their rhetoric do. The conformation of Alito will certainly decrease our future by controlling the superior intelligence which exists in our brains. The human brain is split into two parts the left side and the right side, I call the 2 parts the animal sector and the intellectual sector. Coperate America has tried and with some degree of success managed to control the intellectual side by measures instigating crowd control and not learning. The book “Dumbing Down our Kids” is simply on how Coperate America is trying to destroy the intellectual part of the brain and create a crowd control effect. Basically America has become a land where truth is no longer valid it is what people perceive as true what is. More rhetoric that people have believed in the late 1400’s did people really believe the world was flat? People always knew the world was round, it is just Columbus was a terrible mathematicain. Power of rhetoric, it is the ability to get people to believe in something which they know is not in the best interest and convincing them it is best for them. Andrew Carnegie once said this “the rich are the trustees in which are entrusted with the wealth that was made because the poor would spend it unwise” translation – the poor are too stupid to handle money that is why i have all of it. He also said this “I give you libraries and community places for I know you will never build them on your own” translation – the poor waste their money on things like food, clothing and shelter, look at me I am your great example and give you things like libaries for education the ppor do not need money they waste it I make good use of my money for the benefit of all. America Sucks is what I say, I am not commenting about the people I am talking about how we have the most inefficient government in the world. How is that every industrialized considered “First World” country have a form of universal health insurance except the US? Is it cause the private sector is better or should I say cause the US is incompetent to handle such a diverse and complex system, I’ll let you decide that one. Finally I hope I gave you all some good insights on the US, Remember the liberal media is but a myth in our minds.
January 22nd, 2006 at 8:57 amOur Defense at their Expense
January 23, 2006
Response to your Opening Statement of Senator Dianne Feinstein on the Nomination of Samuel A. Alito to be Associate Justice of the U. S. Supreme Court
Senator Feinstein,
I have read your “Opening Statement on the Nomination of Samuel A. Alito†and found it wanting. To begin with your premises are satisfactory but your delivery is week. This is what the Republicans are hoping for: a counter-move that they can easily fence off or brush aside. Today’s Republicans, if you have failed to notice, do not make or take action from a weak or meek position. Since the administrations of Ronald Reagan, they have muscled aside or ran over any and all oppositions and reason the Democrats had to offer. In the past twenty-five years their actions had been reprehensible as well as contemptible against all legality and morality. Then why does such conduct and action not only exist but persist? Answer: because we have allowed to believe that the expression of strength was offensive. Since the fall of Richard Nixon the average Americans have lost the ability to be reasonable as well as sensible. To recover from such a body blow these Americans—the majority of them—came to believe that this nation can only continue from a position of strength and power. This belief was further accelerated and perverted by the right-wing media and think tanks. With power mongrels such as Mellon-Scaife and Murdock, fueling the engines and fires of right-wing discontent, it was only a matter of time when the neo-conservative powerbrokers would swagger and then stagger all the good works that progressives have accomplished since the Kennedy and Johnson administrations. So don’t expect Alito to “be straightforward with us, and thereby be straightforward with the American people,†as you put it, Senator. Alito’s blind and single-minded objective, that of the right-wing’s, is to destroy the checks and balances of our branches of government and thus usher in an imperium over and above the Constitution of the United States. We Americans can not relax our diligence or our vigilance, for the Republicans sure won’t either; we must be willing and daring enough to dish it out as forcibly and as acerbically as possible our defense at their expense of those who wish to destroy our democratic process.
Respectfully, Armando Gomez
January 24th, 2006 at 4:14 amSamuel Alito is a great American and an constructionist juror of the finest caliber. You couldn’t hope for a better judge.
That being said, let’s plainly address the points made above. Enter the “no spin” zone.
ALITO WOULD OVERTURN ROE V. WADE
What Alito actually said in his dissent in Planned Parenthood v. Casey:
You make the call here.
ALITO WOULD ALLOW DISABILITY-BASED DISCRIMINATION
This was a straight case ruling:
ALITO WOULD STRIKE DOWN THE FAMILY AND MEDICAL LEAVE ACT
Alito’s views of Congressional power under the Fourteenth Amendment to abrogate state immunity under the Eleventh are apparently such that he would have held FMLA inapplicable to the states and allowed enforcement on private entities.
ALITO SUPPORTS UNAUTHORIZED STRIP SEARCHES (of children)
Hyperbole of the lowest order. His actual remarks in the opinion:
ALITO HOSTILE TOWARD IMMIGRANTS
Nonsense! In SAIDOU DIA v. JOHN ASHCROFT, Alito did not believe that it was unreasonable for the case officer to think the petitioner (Dia) a liar. People lie. This has nothing to do with immigrants in general. Some people are liars and others aren’t.
January 25th, 2006 at 12:59 am
I adgree with your article and I have posted a link to it on my blog.
Judge Alito is a douche.
January 25th, 2006 at 9:52 amA douche. Wow. It’s people like you who will claim that they are superior in intellect as a means to bully the Right, but will defend their personal views with sneers like calling someone a douche. You are deplorable.
Don’t you realize that people will not want to have a civilized conversation with someone as juvenile as you are? Grow up. You will never be taken seriously by anyone who might be listening to you for an intellectual opinion. If anything, you give credibility to the Right.
Ya know, being pragmatic never hurts. So what if Roe is overturned? It won’t make abortions illegal. It will return the power to the states. Maybe that would satisfy all the children who are up past their bedtime typing away on this blog. People who are clamoring to separate themselves from the red states could have legalized abortions and abortions would be illegal in the red states. If anything, that would work in the red states’ favor. More people down South to increase the number of seats in the House…;)
Also, for all the former posts expressing the desire to abandon the red states and join Canada….NOW Canada is overwhelmingly Conservative! So look north and south..it’s hostile any direction you take..hahahaha
January 25th, 2006 at 10:58 pmi think that you all have better things to do with your lives than sitting around and bashing all over a man that you dont even personally know. until i hear these words come out of my mouth it is nothing but gosip. get a life and stop trying to ruin america.
January 27th, 2006 at 9:53 amI am so thankful that it looks like the honorable and well qualified Judge Alito will likely be confirmed this week. I am thankful that he will likely vote at some point to overturn “bad law” Roe V Wade. I am thankful that Alito will support a less active and more states rights based judiciary. I am thankful that a Judge who understands the difference between freedom of religion vs freedom from religion will be deciding cases at the highest level in the land.
This is a key time for America and these court membership changes will positively impact my American for decades. Not only are these changes occuring at the Supreme court level but by the hundreds at the lower court levels. There are still years left of opportunities to approve judges who are the opposite of the mold that has been in place beginning in the 60’s. I just hope its all not too late for us.
God please bless America and have mercy on us!
January 28th, 2006 at 12:19 pmIf the Dems were sincere in their concern about Alito and the Unitive Executive Theory then why did they not make a big deal of it during the hearings? Perhaps so he would not have the opportunity to defend himself? As usual the Dems talk a good talk about fairness and justice but practice very little of what they preach.
Most Americans support the nomination and the Dems revealing their true partisan colors in this very public way is another notch in the belt of the President.
It truly is a sad day for democracy because the incompetent Dems are trying to appeal to the majority by following the lead of their fanatic base and as a result we are one step closer to a one party country.
January 28th, 2006 at 6:00 pmanother problem that i would like to raise is about the voting machine that is already in the plan from the republican, which i desagree a whole lote , because, you
January 29th, 2006 at 10:16 amcould manipulate the outcome of the tally of the computer,
so we better go back to the old system of the paper ballot,
and with the a paper-receipt of your vote. So we won’t have
no more doubt who really won the election. I hope and pray
that these is a good and pair election to all the citizen of this nice country, the USA.
hey me again i still dont like him that thing about the search and the women and child not right
January 30th, 2006 at 1:48 amDems shouldn’t pass up the chance to at least make a principled stand against Alito… obstruct away, baby!
http://blogdebogs.blogspot.com/2006/01/democrats-self-obstruct.html
January 30th, 2006 at 11:42 amI don’t think the validity of voting machines is the biggest problems with fair elections…There will always be someone whining about how so-and-so didn’t win.
When the Florida recount was happening during G. W. Bush’s first election, there were numerous recounts and each time Bush had more votes than Gore. As a matter of fact, the media was granted access to the ballots after the election and they came to the same conclusion. It became apparent to objective onlookers that only 1 of 2 resolutions could be reached with the Florida recount (in the Dem’s little universe)..#1 Gore won and #2 the ballots need to be recounted. Personally, I think that is why Bush won by a landslide the second time. Americans were bound and determined for their voices to be heard!
January 31st, 2006 at 12:09 amAlito is in. The country will now crumble and disintergrate into the dust. Woe is me!!
How about some icing on the cake? Ginsberg and Breyer kick off??
January 31st, 2006 at 12:02 pmYou’re ALL going to Hell in a handbasket!
This is all part of God’s plan for the demise of this precious country! Just wait and see… It may even happen in YOUR lifetime!
January 31st, 2006 at 12:07 pmThis is all part of God’s plan for the demise of this precious country! Just wait and see… It may even happen in YOUR lifetime!
Only if Hill gets elected…
January 31st, 2006 at 12:11 pmwow. it’s unbelieveable – everyone who is having problems with spelling is a conservative. don’t you guys have a forum on Fox you can all go meet in?
no one is attacking this man personally. the information above is about his publically known legal opinions. they are not “personal attacks”.
February 1st, 2006 at 2:27 pmNo one attacked Alito personally? Did you not see his wife leave in tears during the third day of the confirmation hearing? Can you really be that stupid?
Get used to Alito; he’s there for life. The take home message for you should be that excessive personal attacks of bigotry (which drove his wife to tears in the first place) do not bode well with the intelligent people of the U.S. Senate. That was a bad move on the Dems’ part. It reeked of desperation.
Finally, your statement that ‘neo-cons’ can’t spell is another ploy to assert some sort of superiority over people of dissenting opinions. Once again, something reeks of….
Democrats cling to the idea of being a bastion of tolerance and diversity, so in keeping with your ideology, I suggest you be more welcoming of a contrary opinion!
February 1st, 2006 at 7:52 pmthis nomination has everything to do with protecting bushco and ALL of his illegal activities so when it comes to the supreme court his nazi judges will throw them away. especially the 9/11 incident, as we all know with common sense and our conscious, he is without a shadow of a doubt behind it. the evidence proves it. Loose Change 9-11 Alex Jones Conspiracy on video google. watch it.
February 2nd, 2006 at 6:35 pmConspiracy theories can be fun to mull over when thinking of Roswell, UFOs, etc., but claiming GW was behind the events of 9/11 is really dumb. I don’t think I need to say much more than that.
Well, there’s one more thing. Thanks for giving more credibility to the right wing. Your sort of fanatical opinion brings a smile to my face =)
February 2nd, 2006 at 8:14 pmI am so tired of reading about Alito allowing a strip search of a young girl. Has anyone even read this case? Alito didn’t write the law. It wasn’t a case about the age of a young girl but a case about 4th amendment rights. Why would we want drug dealers using young girls for drug deals? Why would we want young girls carrying dangerous weapons? Where do you think criminals would hide drugs if Alito had voted the other way? As long as the required “probable cause” or “reasonable articulate suspicion” is met we must allow everyone to be subject to searches. Then again, maybe next time someone wants to blow up a building they just pay your 10 year old sister a few bucks to make a delivery.
February 2nd, 2006 at 10:09 pm[...] Much has been made of how our little fascists have based their foriegn policy (such as it is) on oil. Invade Iraq for the oil. Spar with Hugo Chavez over the oil. Let the oil companies price gouge the ever-lovin’ bejesus out of the American consumer. And so on. And all of this because many of them are actually oilmen and stand to reap substantial financial gains from all this. Well, I’m here to give you a new piece of news. Shrub et. al. must’ve done some serious investing in wire production, or at least in copper. Why? Because they appear to be basing the rest of their policies (domestic and human rights, at least) on wire. Illegal, unconstitutional wire-tapping. Repealing Rove v. Wade. And, of course, nothing says “torture” like piano wire. [...]
February 2nd, 2006 at 11:59 pm#739 this is not in the league of ufo’s and roswell. unless you claim you have been abducted!! then take your story to the sci-fi channel. now if you believe what the reichwinger admin is telling you then stupidity is all i need to say. ignorant is just to nice of a word, that would mean you just didn’t know with the possibility of knowing if confronted with the information. just another sheeple living amongst us.
February 3rd, 2006 at 12:19 pmwatch in plane site 9/11. there are many more out there. wake up folks. it’s in all of your faces.
February 3rd, 2006 at 12:23 pmBy Merc
“wow. it’s unbelieveable – everyone who is having problems with spelling is a conservative. don’t you guys have a forum on Fox you can all go meet in?
no one is attacking this man personally. the information above is about his publically known legal opinions. they are not “personal attacksâ€. ”
Merc, if you are going to attack people on a blog of all places about spelling then you should be more careful with your own grammar and spelling. Wow is an expletive and should be follow by an “!”. After periods you should capitalize. Websters spells “unbelieveable” as unbelievable.
February 4th, 2006 at 12:52 pmWhat a group of whiners! Since left leaning thought has decreased in popularity and power the last 20 years, many of those remaining have become vicious and entrenched. It is appalling seeing those speaking such words of venom for any conservative; thinking them the enemy. The simple fact is both sides just want to get along with their lives… everyone just has different means of it.
Many of the so-called intellectuals from the unviersities come from those same “neo-con” states you belittle with your own intolerance. If you are truly educated you would realize when attacked, either side will circle the wagons and defend more fiercely. As the president said in the state of the union address…… You can have strong disagreements without being cruel (to that effect).
* Any of you smearing hate and anger are about as important as a whining pre-schooler in the real world. Just because the majority of americans do not support YOUR ideas does not make them wrong. I am sure many on this site do truly reflect on all sides of the issue… but sadly they are not the ones who have posted a majority of the comments thus far.
February 4th, 2006 at 7:27 pmBS–What are you talking about?? Do you even know?? What is in ’sheeple’s’ faces–in ‘plane’ sight? Can you not give a synopsis of the leftist propaganda that has clouded your judgement? Has it rendered you incapable of thoughtful dialogue? WHAT! What’s your point?! -OR-
Is all the crap you listen to have a point at all? Is that why you can’t explain yourself?
Seriously though, one of the main reasons why I am a Republican is because they aren’t Democrats. For any overtly emotional Dems visiting this site hoping for a safe vestige of like-minded opinions, listen up. Become more open to the Right solutions. There is a reason why the Congress and the presidential administration is Republican; the people voted them into power. IMO the best reason for this was due to the same behaviour that Dems exhibit now. As a Dem, did you not rejoice when Clinton nominated Ginsburg (a staunch supporter of NOW and abortion rights)or did it conveniently slip your mind? Was she voted in by a narrow margin of confirmation votes? No…to the contrary..and it was at a time when Republicans controlled the Congress! You didn’t hear the overtly hateful dialogue of people like Ted Kennedy during those hearings. Not at all. Nobody in Ginsburg’s family left the hearing in tears because of hatemongers like the Dems on that committee.
Of course, the biggest issue now is wiretapping. This will play out like the previous scenario. The Dems are foaming at the mouth as I write. They are hot and bothered because HOW DARE BUSH!! He’s invading the privacy of American citizens who are talking to Al-Queda terrorists!! OMG! This reactionary stance will be responsible for the Dems pissing away their chances of winning back the control of Congress. MARK MY WORDS. Believe me, the best thing for President Bush is the outrage of some yahoos like BS who are besides themselves because he wants to detect terror activity in the USA. MY ANSWER TO YAHOOS LIKE YOU–DON’T REMEMBER 9/11??? Aren’t you aware that this program has already spoiled terrorist plots?? I just hope one day leftwing extremists will grow a brain and quit hating America. And don’t wipe away your tears and scream that you are the truest patriot. Because if you were, you wouldn’t be criticizing our president. He made a good choice and a hard one. I don’t believe anybody in that administration wants to invade the privacy of Americans, but when it’s necessary for keeping our nation secure (possibly saving the lives of millions of Americans), there is NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE.
NOW–grab a Kleenex,dry your eyes, and most importantly, FACE REALITY.
February 5th, 2006 at 6:01 pm[...] While Alito’s resume is nothing to scoff at, his rulings on a number of cases in race and sex discimination are alarming to say the least. People for the American Way have an extensive fact sheet on Alito, which is where ThinkProgress highlighted his rulings from. Jonathan Turley, professor at George Washington University’s law school, weighed in on Alito’s nomination, on NBC’s Today in an interview with Katie Couric: “He’s the top choice for particularly pro-life people. Sam Alito is viewed as someone is likely to join the hard right in likely narrowing and possibly voting to overturn Roe … There will be no one to the right of Sam Alito on this Court. This is a pretty hardcore fellow on abortion issues.” Politicians are already coming out of the woodwork, drumming their war-drums and rallying the armies for a fight. Senator Edward Kennedy (D-MA) released a statement and said: “Rather than selecting a nominee for the good of the nation and the court, President Bush has picked a nominee whom he hopes will stop the massive hemorrhaging of support on his right wing. This is a nomination based on weakness, not strength.” Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) also released a statement concerning the nomination of Alito saying he was “disappointed” by the nomination for “several reasons” as he categorized this selection as “not the product of consultation with Senate Democrats.” Reid also expressed disappointment due to the lack of diversity on the court: “This appointment ignores the value of diverse backgrounds and perspectives … The President has chosen a man to replace Sandra Day O’Connor … For the third time, he has declined to make history by nominating the first Hispanic to the court … And he has chosen yet another federal appellate judge to join a court that already has eight justices with that narrow background. President Bush would leave the Supreme Court looking less like America and more like an old boys club.” There’s a flipside to this coin. Obviously the left is up-in-arms over Alito’s nomination so how is the news received on the right? Let’s take a walk on the “red side.” [...]
February 8th, 2006 at 7:33 pmThe previous post just lists the quotes of pissed off Dems and leftists. Thanks for giving credibility to my assertion that Dems did not accept the nomination of Alito the way that Republicans (in a Republican controlled Congress) did for Ginsburg.
One thing that pops into mind though…why do you think that organizations like Planned Parenthood keep abortion cases tied up in the courts? Why not let the legislative branch (ie the voice of US citizens) decide instead of having judges legislate from the bench? Are you familiar with the legislative branch of the United States Government? “All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives..” Excerpt of the first article of the Constitution! Did you catch the “ALL LEGISLATIVE POWERS” part?
So…there’s the festering sore for all the liberals and why they cringe at the thought of Alito. They can’t use the courts as a tool because conservative judges would thwart their agenda. They can’t stand that a conservative minded judge might possibly rule on a Roe case.
Any pro-abortion advocate knows that most of America would be pleading with their congress representatives to reverse Roe if (heaven forbid) the issue of abortion was actually handled by the Legislative Branch of government. Having a conservative judge on the Supreme Court thwarts their agenda to sidestep the Legislative process.
BY ALL MEANS, LET’S PUT ROE TO A VOTE AND BE DONE WITH IT!
February 9th, 2006 at 8:29 pmOn a lighter note: President Bush recounted ten terrorist plots that were foiled by the US-led global war on terror. It’s evidence that the United States surveillance programs are working, and for that, we ALL should be happy. Listed below are the ten foiled plots that can be easily accessed on cnn.com…
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/02/09/whitehouse.plots/index.html
1. West Coast airliner plot:
In 2002 the United States disrupted a plot to use shoe bombs to hijack a commercial airliner to attack the tallest building in Los Angeles. The plot was “set in motion” by Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of the September 11 attacks.
“Rather than use Arab hijackers, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed sought out young men from Southeast Asia whom he believed would not arouse as much suspicion,” Bush said.
2. East Coast airliner plot:
In mid-2003 the United States and a partner disrupted a plot to use hijacked commercial airplanes to attack targets on the East Coast of the United States.
3. The Jose Padilla plot:
In May 2002 the United States disrupted a plot that involved blowing up apartment buildings in the United States. One of the alleged plotters, Jose Padilla, allegedly discussed the possibility of using a “dirty bomb” inside the United States. Bush has designated him an “enemy combatant.”
4. 2004 British urban targets plot:
In mid-2004 the United States and partners disrupted a plot to bomb urban targets in Britain.
5. 2003 Karachi plot:
In spring 2003 the United States and a partner disrupted a plot to attack westerners at several targets in Karachi, Pakistan.
6. Heathrow Airport plot:
In 2003 the United States and several partners disrupted a plot to attack London’s Heathrow Airport using hijacked commercial airliners. The planning for this alleged attack was undertaken by a major operational figure in the September 11, 2001, attacks.
7. 2004 Britain plot:
In the spring of 2004 the United States and partners, using a combination of law enforcement and intelligence resources, disrupted a plot to conduct large-scale bombings in Britain.
8. 2002 Arabian Gulf shipping plot:
In late 2002 and 2003 the United States and a partner nation disrupted a plot by al Qaeda operatives to attack ships in the Arabian Gulf.
9. 2002 Strait of Hormuz plot:
In 2002 the United States and partners disrupted a plot to attack ships in the Strait of Hormuz, the entrance to the Persian Gulf from the Indian Ocean.
10. 2003 tourist site plot:
In 2003 the United States and a partner nation disrupted a plot to attack a tourist site outside the United States. The White House did not list what site that was.
THANK GOD FOR PRESIDENT BUSH.
February 9th, 2006 at 8:40 pmComment by Commonsense Ararity OnthisBlog — February 9, 2006 @ 8:29 pm
It was a pingback that I didn’t know my blog was programmed for. Sorry.
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H10 6GB MP3 Player = $120
Sonic Impact Technologies 512MB MP3 Player w/ Flash Drive & Voice = $85
iriver H10 5GB MP3 Player, Gray = $110
YP-MT6X Yepp 512MB Portable Compact Digital Music MP3 Player = $70
Zen Micro 5 GB MP3 Player – Dark Blue [ Creative Labs = $100
iRiver 5 GB MP3 Player (Silver) = $110
Creative Labs NOMAD Jukebox Zen Xtra 30 GB MP3 Player = $90
Sony MZ-NH600D 1GB MP3 Player Hi-MD Walkman Digital Music Player = $90
Network Walkman NW-HD1 20GB MP3 Player = $150
Cowon iAudio X5 20GB MP3 Player = $110
Digital Audio Players from Motorola: Audio MP3 Players, Digital = $70
Gigabeat Meg-F60S 60GB MP3 Player – Gray = $155
Sony 1GB Personal MP3 Player, Network Walkman = $100
Creative Zen Micro 6GB MP3 Player (red) = $125
laptops
February 21st, 2006 at 2:36 pmSONY VAIO A217S– 100GB– 512MB RAM– XP HOME————-$300
SONY VAIO B1VP– 40GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP PRO————–$330
SONY VAIO T370P/L– 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—————-$200
SONY VAIO A215Z 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP——————$2450
SONY VAIO A397XP– 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—————-$300
SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—————$250
SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—————$400
SONY VAIO FS295VP 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—————$350
SONY VAIO FS215Z 100GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—————$350
SONY VAIO A417M 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—————–$450
SONY VAIO B1VP– 40GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP PRO————-$200
SONY VAIO T370P/L– 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP PRO———-$400
SONY VAIO LAPTOP– VGN-A117S—————$400
phones
Nokia N91 220$
Nokia 6060 145$
Nokia 6111 132$
Nokia 6270 125$
Nokia 6270 115$
Nokia 6280 125$
Nokia N90 115$
Nokia N70 115$
Nokia Vertu 155$
Nokia 5140i 125$
Nokia 6230i 115$
Nokia 8800 105$
Nokia 6021 105$
Nokia 6030 115$
Nokia 6680 125$
Nokia 6681 120$
Nokia 6101 110$
Nokia 6822 110$
Nokia 7710 110$
Nokia 6170 145$
Nokia 6260 145$
Nokia 3510i 95$
Nokia 6630 120$
Nokia 9300 110$
Nokia 7260 120$
Nokia 7270 110$
Nokia 7280 120$
Nokia 6670 110$
Nokia 6020 120$
Nokia 3220 65$
Nokia N-GAGE QD 75$
Nokia 7610 120$
Nokia 9500 145$
Nokia 5140 85$
Nokia 6610i 120$
Nokia 7200 133$
Nokia 6230 145$
Nokia 6820 120$
Nokia 7600 105$
Nokia 6600 120$
Nokia 6800 105$
Nokia 6220 120$
Nokia 6620 120$
Nokia 7250i 65$
Nokia 8910i 120$
Nokia 6100 95$
SAMSUNG D600 155$
SAMSUNG P860 165$
SAMSUNG P850
sidekick 1 $110
sidekick 2 $100
Sony Ericsson K500i…..130 USD
Sony Ericsson P800……200 USD
Sony Ericsson P900……260 USD
Sony Ericsson P910i…..270 USD
Sony Ericsson T230……80 USD
Sony Ericsson T310……80 USD
Sony Ericsson T610……100 USD
Sony Ericsson Z1010…..180 USD
Sony Ericsson Z200……90 USD
Sony Ericsson Z600……130 USD
Sony Ericssson T630…..130 USD
Sony Ericsson S700i…..170 USD
Sony Ericsson S750i…..170 USD
9806LL/A) MP3 Player = USD$110
Motorola A388C……170 USD
Motorola A760…….250 USD
Motorola A768…….260 USD
Motorola A768i……200 USD
Motorola A780…….290 USD
Motorola C550…….90 USD
Motorola C650…….100 USD
Motorola E365…….100 USD
Motorola E398…….120 USD
Motorola E680…….240 USD
Motorola RAZR V3….270 USD
Motorola V220…….170 USD
Motorola V303…….100 USD
Motorola V400…….150 USD
Motorola V500…….150 USD
Motorola V501…….200 USD
Motorola V525…….150 USD
Motorola V600 (OEM) w/ Bluetooth Headset..260 USD
Motorola V600 OEM…180 USD
Motorola V690…..170 USD
Motorola V750…..180 USD
Motorola V80……200 USD
Motorola V80 with Bluetooth…260 USD
Motorola V872…..200 USD
Motorola V878….180 USD
Motorola V300….150 USD
Samsung D500…240 USD
Samsung E600…140 USD
Samsung E800…180 USD
Samsung P510…120 USD
Samsung SGH-D410.200 USD
Samsung SGH-D500..270 USD
Samsung SGH-E700..150 USD
Samsung SGH-E715..170 USD
Samsung SGH-P100..130 USD
Samsung SGH-P400..95 USD
Samsung SGH-P408..240 USD
Samsung SGH-P730..150 USD
Samsung SGH-S200..90 USD
Samsung SGH-S300..70 USD
Samsung SGH-S300M..100 USD
Samsung SGH-S500…100 USD
Samsung SGH-V200…110 USD
Samsung SGH-X400…100 USD
Samsung SGH-X430…100 USD
Samsung SGH-X600…100 USD
Samsung X450…….100 USD
ipods
Apple iPod from hp 40GB = USD$150 Apple iPod from HP 20GB = USD$120 Apple iPod U2 Special Edition 20GB = USD$130 HP Apple iPod / 40GB / Click Wheel / MP3 Player = USD$170 Apple iPod MP3 Player, 20gb = USD$115 Apple iPod Shuffle1GB MP3 Player = USD$85 Apple iPod for Windows – Digital player – 10GB Hard Drive = USD$130 Apple iPod 40GB 3rd Gen M9245LL/A A1040 = USD$140 Hewlett Packard Apple iPod from HP 20GB With Click Wheel = USD$95 Apple Ipod 20GB 4th Generation = USD$130 APPLE iPod mini Player 4G Light Blue Model M9802ZP/A = USD$93 Kingston Apple iPod from hp 40GB with Click Wheel = USD$140 iPod Mini 6GB = USD$145 iPod 60GB = USD$170 iPod Mini 4GB = USD$105 Apple iPod shuffle (512 MB – M9724LL/A) MP3 Player = USD$80 Apple iPod mini Green Second Gen. (4 GB – M9806LL/A) MP3 Player = USD$110
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first off you guys have some miserable grammer. Did Any of you take english in high school? Also the country splitting wouldnt solve anything anyway. You hippies need to quit complaining and do something about it.
February 22nd, 2006 at 11:48 amheyy
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February 27th, 2006 at 6:54 pmsome people on here are intellectually challenged to say the least. On the alito issue his dcisions will influence america and I dont believe someone as right winged as he should serve on the supreme court.
February 27th, 2006 at 6:57 pmyo wasup you crackers are whack we need a brother instead of this racist bush or alyito. Al sharpton or Jesse jackson for president.
February 27th, 2006 at 7:00 pm[...] I can’t believe I’m going here but here a few patitions if you feel the sameway. http://www.moveonpac.org/stopalito/ http://www.savethecourt.org/ http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/31/samuel-alitos-america [...]
February 28th, 2006 at 10:13 pm[...] For Alito: Boy Scout Blogger Why Alito’s the Man for the True Conservative Agenda JudgeAlito.com Against Alito: Think Progress Alito’s America Pro-choice America People Of Faith Will Oppose Samuel Alito Impartial Information: Samuel Alito Samuel Alito Supreme Court Nomination [...]
March 3rd, 2006 at 12:10 pmRoe v. Wade? Abortion? Hate to say this but I’m not taking sides. This is a women’s issue. I’m a man and I’m never going to get pregnant.
March 5th, 2006 at 1:46 pmwow r u married??? anonymous 0_0;; but if a woman heard u say that u would get B. slapped
March 6th, 2006 at 6:56 pmI can’t believe everyone is sitting here just taking pot shots at each other. To be quite frank I don’t care about abortion cause when you kill that child he goes straight to heaven and doesn’t have to deal with crap we call life.
March 23rd, 2006 at 10:34 pmTIME TO VOTE FOR LIBERTARIANS IN OFFICE AND GET THE REST ALL OUT, THE LIBERTARIANS ARE DIVIDED ON BORDERS BUT THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN FREE HEALTH CARE FOR THE ILLEGALS. WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE TO START GETTING BACK OUT FREEDOM. WELCOME TO NAZI AMERIKA
March 31st, 2006 at 11:51 amI can not believe the stupidity, arrogance and hypocrisy I’ve read on both sides of the ideological debates going on in here. I’m conservative, Christian, and that AUTOMATICALLY makes me ignorant and intolerant? If that isn’t bigotry, I don’t know what is. Those “blue” folks praise the more sophisticated states in their political spectrum as being better-educated, wealthier, etc., all the time ignoring the fact that the schools in these areas are atrocious, DESPITE all of the millions flowing into them. Some of the neighborhoods in the major cities are infested with child-shooting gang members — many who are, by the way, ILLEGAL FRICKIN’ ALIENS. You wanna be dependent on Uncle Sam for your livelihoods, be my guest. But socialism is not what the founding fathers ever intended.
And while I have no specific examples to point out off the top of my head, I’ve been embarrassed by some — but not all — of the commentary by my fellow conservartives as well. It seems that with the exception of a few posts that simply list facts and thought-out reasoning, most of the people here are exactly what they blame the other side of being: hateful, intolerant, arrogant, bigoted, only able to express the rightness of their position by raping the other side.
Honestly people, go back and re-read some of your posts — both conservs and libs. Some of you can be proud of the way you expressed yourselves, but I’d say that the greater majority of you sounded like ranting children — not exactly living up to your ideological claims.
Okay, flame me. But I’m not coming back to a forum that seems incapable of sustaining a mature, polite, and respectful exchange of views.
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Nokia N93…………..$350usd
Nokia n92…………..$270usd
Nokia N70…………..$160usd
Nokia N71…………..$165USD
Nokia N90…………..$200usd
Nokia N91…………..$235usd
Nokia n80…………..$200usd
Nokia 8800………….$210usd
Nokia 6682………….$180usd
nOKIA 6800………….$130USD
Nokia 6830………….$160usd
Nokia 7700………….$130usd
Nokia 1110………….$105usd
Nokia 1600………….$115usd
Nokia 2125………….$125usd
Nokia 2255………….$100usd
Nokia 3128………….$100usd
Nokia 3230………….$120usd
Nokia 3530………….$170usd
Nokia 3560………….$200usd
Nokia 3650………….$145usd
Nokia 5100………….$120usd
Nokia 5140i…………$125usd
Nokia 5210………….$130usd
Nokia 5510………….$110usd
Nokia 6100………….$90usd
Nokia 6101………….$135usd
Nokia 6030………….$100usd
Nokia 6060………….$110usd
Nokia 6090………….$130usd
Nokia 6250………….$110usd
Nokia 6280………….$150usd
Nokia 6310………….$110usd
Nokia 6310i…………$130usd
Nokia 6510………….$130usd
Nokia 6600………….$180usd
NOKIA 6610………….$120USD
Nokia 7110………….$100usd
Nokia 7210………….$100usd
Nokia 7250………….$130usd
Nokia 7270………….$160usd
Nokia 7280………….$170usd
Nokia 7380………….$200usd
Nokia 7600………….$150usd
Nokia 7610………….$100usd
Nokia 7650………….$145usd
Nokia 7710………….$110usd
Nokia 8310………….$125usd
Nokia 8390………….$120usd
Nokia 8800………….$160usd
Nokia 8910i…………$150usd
Nokia 8850………….$150usd
Nokia 9210………….$130usd
Nokia 9210i…………$160usd
Nokia 9300………….$160usd
Nokia 9500………….$170usd
Nokia N Gage QD……..$150usd
O2 3G Datacard………$140usd
Orange Blackberry……$200usd
Orange 3G Datacard…..$200usd
Orange SPV C500……..$145usd
Orange SPV M2000…….$134usd
Panasonic G51……….$135usd
Panasonic Gu87………$120usd
Panasonic X60……….$129usd
Panasonic X70……….$134usd
Panasonic X300………$124usd
Panasonic X700………$152usd
Samsung A500………..$150usd
Samsung D307………..$180usd
Samsung D410………..$110usd
Samsung D415………..$130usd
Samsung D500………..$160usd
Samsung D600………..$180usd
Samsung D720………..$170usd
Samsung E310………..$134usd
Samsung E330………..$132usd
Samsung E600………..$128usd
Samsung E630………..$123usd
Samsung E700………..$125usd
Samsung i830………..$230usd
Samsung MM1940………$200usd
Samsung T200………..$115usd
Samsung T500………..$135usd
Samsung V200………..$120usd
LG 8150…………….$156usd
LG 8150…………….$145usd
LG G8000……………$134usd
MDA4……………….$130usd
Mitac MIO 8930………$280usd
Motorola A600……….$146usd
Motorola A630……….$148usd
Motorola A760……….$150usd
Motorola A780……….$180usd
Motorola A840……….$162usd
Motorola E1…………$134usd
Motorola MPX………..$125usd
Motorola MPX100……..$120usd
Motorola Mpx220……..$145usd
Motorola MPX300.,……$125usd
Motorola V300……….$130usd
Motorola V3Razr……..$230usd
Motorola V400……….$150usd
Motorola V600……….$135usd
Motorola V661……….$150usd
Sony Ericsson 1900…..$160usd
Sony Ericsson J210i….$120usd
Sony Ericsson J300i….$130usd
Sony Ericsson J600…..$110usd
Sony Ericsson J700…..$135usd
Sony Ericsson K300i….$135usd
Sony Ericsson K508i….$145usd
Sony Ericsson K600i….$140usd
Sony Ericsson K608i….$145usd
Sony Ericsson P800…..$180usd
Sony Ericsson P900…..$200usd
Sony Ericsson P910i….$230usd
Sony Ericsson P980i….$280usd
Sony Ericsson P990…..$250usd
Sony Ericsson S600i….$155usd
Sony Ericsson S700…..$130usd
Sony Ericsson T29s…..$110usd
Sony Ericsson T300…..$100usd
Sony Ericsson T610…..$120usd
Sony Ericsson T616…..$160usd
Sony Ericsson T850…..$130usd
Sony Ericsson T65……$105usd
Sony Ericsson T600…..$130usd
Sony! Ericsson V600i…$160usd
Sony Ericsson V800i….$165usd
Sony Ericsson W800i….$180usd
sony Ericsson w600i….$160usd
Sony Ericsson MZ5……$140usd
Sagem S-7…………..$165usd
Sagem x7……………$130usd
Sagem x8……………$155usd
Sagem myc5………….$135usd
Nextel i450…………$110usd
Nextel i930…………$150usd
Nextel i95cl………..$130usd
Nextel i830…………$110usd
Nextel i860…………$125usd
Nextel i870…………$140usd
Nextel i860…………$135usd
Mpx300……………..$200usd
treo 600……………$200usd
Treo 650……………$210usd
All our product are well packed and sealed for security reasons,
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Description (Selling): we are exporters of apple ipods. all brand new and boxed with original accessories. we sell them in bulk and in small quantities. the payment is guarantee via western union money transfer . here is the list of apple ipods that we have in stock:
May 9th, 2006 at 12:04 amEmail: benjaminphones@hotmail.com
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9802LL/A””””””””””””””’us$65usd
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Pink M9804LL/A””””””””””””””’us$65usd
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Green M9806LL/A””””””””””””””us$65usd
Apple 6 GB iPod Mini Blue M9803LL/A””””””””””””””’us$70usd
Apple 6 GB iPod Mini Silver M9801LL/A””””””””””””””us$70usd
Apple 20 GB iPod M9282LL/A”””””””””””””””””””’us$70usd
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Pink M9435LL/A”””””””””””””””us$50usd Apple 40 GB iPod photo””””””””””””””””””””””us$50usd Apple 4 GB ipod nano””””””””””””””””””””””’us$70usd Apple 2 GB ipod nano””””””””””””””””””””””’us$62usd Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Silver M9160LL/A”””””””””””””””us$50usd
Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A”””””””””””””””””’us$90usd
Apple 60 GB iPod photo”””””””””””””””””””””””us$50usd
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A””””””””””””””””””us$75usd
Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player M9724LL/A”””””””””””’us$56.00
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A”””””””””””””””””us$49.00
Apple 20 GB iPod U2 Special Edition”””””””””””””””””’us$73.00
Apple 6 GB iPod Mini Green M9807LL/A”””””””””””””””””us$64.00
NEW apple 60 GB video ipod””””””””’us$140.00
NEW apple 30 GB video ipod””””””””’us$120.00
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Mp3 Player Price List iRiver IFP-790T
MP3 Player = $80usd H10 6GB
MP3 Player = $120usd Sonic Impact Technologies 512MB
MP3 Player w/ Flash Drive & Voice = $85usd
We are mobile phones wholesalers,we have all brands and models of gsm,tdma and cdma phones for sale at very cheap prices.We also have all models of Nextel phones for sale also at very cheap prices.We sell our phones at very cheap and reasonable prices.We do ship all over the world.Do kindly contact us on our email benjaminphones@hotmail.com, if you are interested in buying some phones from us,thank’s and God bless. below are some phones prices,do check them out and let me know what you think about them: HERE IS THE PRICE LIST. Brand Model Unit Prices MODELS: PRICE: NOKIA 2100– US$50
NOKIA 3210– US$15
NOKIA 3310– US$20
NOKIA 3330– US$45
NOKIA 3410– US$20
NOKIA 3510– US$30
NOKIA 3510i– US$35
NOKIA 3530– US$60
NOKIA 3200–US$45
NOKIA 3595–US$50
NOKIA 3620–US$55
NOKIA 3315–US$20
NOKIA 5110I–US$25
NOKIA 5588–US$35
NOKIA 8250–US$35
NOKIA 8210–US$30
NOKIA 9110–US$70
NOKIA 6150–US$70
NOKIA 6600–US$160
NOKIA 3650– US$70
OKIA 5100– US$60
NOKIA 5210– US$70
NOKIA 5510– US$70
NOKIA 6090– US$90
NOKIA 6100– US$125
NOKIA 6210– US$80
NOKIA 6250– US$100
NOKIA 6510– US$80
NOKIA 6310– US$100
NOKIA 6310i– US$100
NOKIA 6610– US$80
NOKIA 6800– US$90
NOKIA 7110– US$95
NOKIA 7210
Turquoise– US$95
NOKIA 7250– US$100
NOKIA 7650– US$90
NOKIA 8310– US$55
NOKIA 8910 TITANIUM– US$110
NOKIA 8850 SPECIAL EDITION– US$110
NOKIA 8850 GOLD EDITION– US$100
NOKIA 8910 Black– US$110
NOKIA 9210 Communicator– US$120
NOKIA 6170–US$105
NOKIA 6260–US$100
NOKIA 9210i Communicator– US$95
NOKIA 8910i– US$85
NOKIA 9500–US$150
NOKIA 6260–US$135
NOKIA 6230 –US$100
NOKIA 6820–US$100
NOKIA 8800–US$130
NOKIA 9300–US$150
NOKIA N70 –US$110
NOKIA N90—US$115
NOKIA N91 –US$145
SONY ERICSSON T200– US$30
SONY ERICSSON T100– US$25
SONY ERICSSON R600– US$45
SONY ERICSSON T20e– US$45
SONY ERICSSON P800–US$135
SONY ERICSSON T20s– US$50
SONY ERICSSON T28s– US$50
SONY ERICSSON T28 World– US$60
SONY ERICSSON T29s– US$70
SONY ERICSSON T600– US$70
SONY ERICSSON P900–US$155
SONY ERICSSON T300– US$60
SONY ERICSSON T68i– US$80
SONY ERICSSON T65– US$80
SONY ERICSSON T20—US$70
SONY ERICSSON T310– US$60
SONY ERICSSON T39m– US$75
SONY ERICSSON T66– US$70
SONY ERICSSON R520m– US$85
SONY ERICSSON A3618–US$55
SONY ERICSSON R380 World– US$75
SONY ERICSSON R380s– US$55
SONY ERICSSON T68m– US$70
SONY ERICSSON T610– US$80
SONY ERICSSON P700– US$95
SONY ERICSSON Z100–US$250:00USD
SONY ERICSSON P910i–US$190:00USD
SONY ERICSSON Z500–$140:00USD
SONY CMD-MZ5– US$65
SONY CMD-Z5– US$55
SONY CMD-J5– US$45
SONY CMD-Z7– US$30
SONY CMD-J7– US$30
SONY CMD-J6– US$30
SONY CMD-J70– US$20
MOTOROLA T250–us$20
MOTOROLA p7389–us$20
MOTOROLA T2288–us$35
MOTOROLA Talkabout 191– US$19
MOTOROLA C330– US$49
MOTOROLA V66– US$59
MOTOROLA v66i– US$59
MOTOROLA TALKABOUT192– US$49
MOTOROLA V51– US$69
MOTOROLA V50– US$69
MOTOROLA V70– US$69
MOTOROLA V60– US$69
MOTOROLA V60i– US$69
MOTOROLA T720– US$69
MOTOROLA ACCOMPOLI 008– US$69
MOTOROLA TTIMEPORT 280– US$69
MOTOROLA MPX200–US$100
MOTOROLA MPX 220 –US$11 0
MOTOROLA MPX 300 –US$125
MOTOROLA V400–US$92
MOTOROLA V600– US$95
MOTOROLA RAZR V3 –US$170
MOTOROLA V300–$89
MOTOROLA M6088–US$65
MOTOROLA STARTAC 328–us$29
MOTOROLA TIMEPORTP7389–US$45
MOTOROLA V60G–$100
MOTOROLA T190/T191–US$25
MOTOROLA V6 —US$180
TREO 650 –US$150
SAMSUNG SGH-S105– us$80
SAMSUNG SGH-N620– US$49
SAMSUNG SGH-A800– US$59
SAMSUNG SGH-A300– US$69
SAMSUNG SGH-R210– US$69
SAMSUNG SGH-N100– US$69
SAMSUNG SGH-N400– US$79
SAMSUNG SGH-T100– US$59
SAMSUNG SGH-A400– US$59
SAMSUNG SGH-S100– US$59
SAMSUNG SGH-A200– US$59
SAMSUNG SGH-T400– US$69
SAMSUNG SGH-S300– US$69
SAMSUNG SGH-A500– US$89
SAMSUNG SGH-T500 Champagne– US$102
SAMSUNG SGH-V200– US$98
SAMSUNG SGH-T200– US$90
SAMSUNG SGH-R225–US$15
SAMSUNG SGH-E715–US$115
SAMSUNG SGH-V206–US$105
SAMSUNG SGH-A460–US$65
SAMSUNG SGH-V205–US$100
SAMSUNG SGH-R220–US$30
SAMSUNG SGH-N740–US$45
SAMSUNG D410 –US$132
SAMSUNG D415–US$144
SAMSUNG D500– US$152
ALCATEL One Touch 501– US$39
ALCATEL One Touch 311– US$35
ALCATEL One Touch 701– US$43
ALCATEL One Touch 511– US$49
ALCATEL OT525– US$39
ALCATEL One Touch 512– US$9
ALCATEL One Touch 715– US$69
panasonic TX310–$65
PANASONIC TG2593B–$59
PANASONIC GD35– US$39
PANASONIC GD52– US$49
PANASONIC GD67– US$49
PANASONIC GD92– US$69
PANASONIC GD90– US$69
PANASONIC GD93– US$69
PANASONIC GD75– US$79
PANASONIC GD55– US$79
PANASONIC GD95– US$79
PANASONIC GU87–US$70
PANASONICT X320–US$80
PANASONIC GD87– US$149
PANASONIC TG2000B–$119
PANASONIC TG4000—$110
SIEMENS A55–US$40
SIEMENS C35–us$20
SIEMENS S57–us$17
SIEMENS CL50–US$95
SIEMENS A50– US$35
SIEMENS C45– US$39
SI EMENS C55– US$49
SIEMENS M35i– US$59
SIEMENS M50– US$49
SIEMENS S45i– US$79
SIEMENS S40– US$89
SIEMENS SL42– US$89
SIEMENS ME45– US$79
SIEMENS SL45– US$69
SIEMENS SL45i– US$69
SIEMENS S55 Camera– US$99
SIEMENS C150–us$29
SIEMENS A40–us$13
SIEMENS SX56–US$105
PHILIPS Fisio 120– US$19
PHILIPS Fisio 311– US$29
PHILIPS Fisio 620– US$21
PHILIPS Fisio 825– US$29
PHILIPS X̩niumРUS$59
PHILIPS Fisio 820 + Kit Blue– US$39
NEXTEL PHONES PRICES: HERE ARE ALSO SOME NEXTEL PHONES PRICELIST:
NEXTEL i60c — 50UDS i90c — 75USD i95cl — 90USD i30sx — 13USD i88s — 50USD i35s — 30USD i58sr –65USD i2000 — 60USD i830–108USD i860–112USD i730 –103USD i930–126USD Do kindly reply back now,
TO OUR EMAIL ADDRESS benjaminphones@hotmail.com
Thank’s and God bless
Mr Benjamin Smith
Chairman
Dear buyer
We are a new and uk verfired company and major distributors/exporters of phones,ipods,laptops,games,and GPS at an unbeatable price and they are all brand new,tested with one year warrenty and they comaes in a factory sealed boxes.
Name:Williams Richard
Email:Silvergalleryblink@gmail.com
Here are the product/ Prices avaliable.
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Phones
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Brand New Motorola E895…….$160
Brand New Motorola V3x……..$230
Brand New Motorola V8……….$160
Brand New Motorola V6……….$160
Brand New Motorola A1010……$150
Brand New Motorola E1060…….$140
Brand New Motorola V1050…….$150
Brand New Samsung D600………$220
Brand New Nokia N80………….$180
Brand New Nokia N91………….$230
Brand New Nokia N92………….$260
Brand New Nokia N90………….$210
Brand New Nokia N70………….$180
Brand New Nokia N71………….$150
Brand New Nokia 1600…………$100
Brand New Nokia 3560…………$180
Brand New Nokia 1110…………$100
Brand New Nokia 1101…………$130
Brand New Nokia 5140i………..$140
Brand New Nokia 8800…………$210
Brand New Nokia 6230i………..$170
Brand New Nokia 6230…………$150
Sony Ericsson W800…………..$216.00
Sony Ericsson W800i………….$224.99
Sony Ericsson W900…………..$236.00
Sony Ericsson W900…………..$233.99
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Laptops
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Toshiba Satellite A75-S229 Laptop Computer….$200
Toshiba Satellite M45-S311 Laptop Computer….$390
Toshiba Satellite R15-S822 Laptop Computer….$600
Toshiba Qosmio G15-AV501 Laptop Computer….$1000
Toshiba Satellite A65-S126 Laptop Computer…..$200
Toshiba Satellite P25-S526 Laptop Computer…..$1000
Toshiba Satellite A45-S120 Laptop Computer…..$300
Toshiba Satellite M35X-S149 Laptop Computer…$400
Toshiba Qosmio E15-AV101 Laptop Computer…..$900
Toshiba Satellite P35-S609 Laptop Computer……$850
Toshiba Qosmio F15-AV201 Laptop Computer……$650
Toshiba Portege M200 Laptop Computer…………$500
Pentium 4…………………………………….$450.etc
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Games
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Xbox 360 premium package..$240.00
Psp (play station)………….$175.00
Ps2……$145.00
Ps3……$245.00
Ps1……$75.00
Apple iPod nano 4GB…..$131.50
Apple iPod nano 2GB…..$112.00
Apple 30 GB Video iPod..$202.50
Apple 60 GB Video iPod..$217.00
Apple 20 GB iPod………$126.00
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini…..$105.00
Apple 6 GB iPod Mini…..$114.00
Apple 40 GB iPod photo..$110.00
Apple 60 GB iPod photo..$130.00
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo..$116.00
Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player…$130.00 etc.
Regards
May 18th, 2006 at 7:36 pmWilliams Richard
We have all brands and models Games and xbox 360 for sale at very cheap prices.We also have all models Xbox 360 for sale also at very cheap prices.We sell our Games and xbox 360 at very cheap and reasonable prices.We do ship all over the world.Do kindly contact us on our email: intertrademarketing@myway.com
Telephone:+2348029947561
if you are interested in buying some Games/Xbox 360 from us,thank’s and God bless.
below are some Games/Electronic prices,do check them out and let me know what you think about them:
playmakers limited is the home of all entertainment and one of the largest salers of playstation here in west africa, we specialized in home entertainment such as psp’s,apple ipods and xbox 360 only. our price is cheap and and affordable,we also shipp and welcome buyers all around the world. please do contact us if you need any of these product.
Bellow are the price list in our stock.
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9802LL/A………………….$100usd
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Pink M9804LL/A………………….$120usd
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Green M9806LL/A…………………$110usd
Apple 6 GB iPod Mini Blue M9803LL/A………………….$120usd
Apple 6 GB iPod Mini Silver M9801LL/A………………..$110usd
Apple 20 GB iPod M9282LL/A………………………….$150usd
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Pink M9435LL/A………………….$120usd
Apple 40 GB iPod photo……………………………..$120usd
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Silver M9160LL/A………………..$110usd
Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A…………………….$200usd
Apple 60 GB iPod photo……………………………..$140usd
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A…………………….$180usd
Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player M9724LL/A………..$260usd
Apple iPod 1GB Shuffle……………………………..$220usd
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A………………….$100usd
Apple 20 GB iPod U2 Special Edition………………….$120usd
Apple 6 GB iPod Mini Green M9807LL/A…………………$130usd
Apple Ipod Nano 2GB………………………………..$130usd
Apple Ipod Nano 4GB………………………………..$180usd
Apple Ipod video 30GB………………………………$230usd
Apple Ipod video 60GB………………………………$300usd
Microsoft Xbox 360 Platinum System cost………………$350usd
Playstation 3……………………………………..$220usd
Playstation 2……………………………………..$75usd
Sony PSP “Super Value Pack” – 3 Game
UMD Sampler Pack…………………. ………………$200usd
Sony PSP Super Value Pack w/2 Games,
Spider Man Movie, UMD Sampler……………………….$140usd
Sony PSP – 3 Games, Spider Man Movie…………………$250usd
Sony “PSP Tony Hawk’s Underground 2 Remix ValuePack……$190usd
Sony PSP “Sports Value Pack” – 2 Games,
UMD Sampler Pack…………………………………..$150usd
Sony PSP “Value Pack” – 1 Racing Game,
UMD Sampler ………………………………………$230usd
Sony PSP Limited Edition(White) 20 Games+Car Kit Etc…..$250usd
Sony PSP “Super Pack” – 5 Games With ExtraAccessories….$170usd
Sony PSP “Limited Edition” Ceramic White …………….$180usd
.Sony Psp “metal Gear Value Pack” – 2 Games,
Umd Sampler pack…………………………………..$160.00
Sony PSP \”Value Pack\” – NBA Basketball Game,
UMD Sampler pack…………………………………..$100usd
play station 1…………………………………….$120usd
play station 2 ……………………………………$200usd
play station 3…………………………………….$250usd
XBOX:
Microsoft Xbox 360 Platinum System cost………………$850usd
Microsoft Xbox 360 Core System………………………$850usd
Microsoft Xbox 360 System Bundle…………………….$850usd
Xbox 360 Customer Choice Bundle with Hard Drive……….$780usd
Xbox 360 Live Bundle……………………………….$520usd
Xbox 360 Core Bundle……………………………….$600usd
Xbox 360 Core System Bundle…………………………$900usd
x_box 360…………………………………………$400usd
GARMIN 396………………………………………..$250uds
Game boy latext edition…………………………….$110usd
MP3 WACH FOR JUST………………………………….$200USD
this games are brand new sealed in black company Box.
Do kindly reply back now,thank’s and God bless.
All our product are well packed and sealed for security reasons…
And models of mobile phones.All electronics and mobile phones comes
in its original sealed box direct from the factory.
All electronics and mobile phones price are negotiable if buying in
bulk quantity.
Hope to hear from you as soon as possible with your private phone
number for easy communication
Delivery Time:
We deliver the products been purchased directly to your doorstep 2-3
Email:intertrademarketing@myway.com
Telephone:+2348029947561
Thanks
May 18th, 2006 at 7:40 pmJames Brown
MAMA A MOTORS WORLD WIDE
June 12th, 2006 at 7:08 pmWe are the best Motor dealler because we suply wherever you are under the world, our company is liscenced under the goverment approver including the minister of trasportation and we sale at low price for our new costumer in the year (2006) till january (2007) and we also sale in bulk if you are interested in contact the following email address: mama_a_motors@yahoo.com, or call manager: 2348062192591, 2348023919346, please send us a message befor you call for more details. This are the list of the cars on sales.
limousine Perth …1632 x 1232 – 258
limousine Stretch Limo 524 x 328 – 51
hummer 700 x 453 – 75 ………173,650
hummer 2003 Hummer H2 …500 x 375 – 28 ……….173,000
BMW M3 convertible:1024 x 768 – 112
BMW 540i 540 950 x 517 – 116
bmw 330i 1024 x 768 – 112
Honda ::.1024 x 768 – 69
Honda 300 x 187 – 10
Honda 1024 x 625 – 115
Lincoln Navigator 520 x 395 – 49
Lincoln Navigator …298 x 221- 16
Lincoln Navigator 520 x 395 – 50
Lincoln Navigator 222 x 120 – 8
LEXUS RX 400 H 850 x 569 – 86
Lexus-GS-300 430 354 x 236 – 78
Lexus LS 430 380 x 235 – 19
Lexus 640 x 480 – 206
Lexus LS430 640 x 480 – 93
Benz GL-Class: First class …320 x 207 – 22
Mercedes Benz of Fresno Mercedes in …450 x 300 – 33
Mercedes-Benz-M.. …1024 x 768 – 274
Hyundai Sonata 450 x 250 – 22
Hyundai Terracan 400 x 266 – 64
Hyundai Accent Club …340 x 238 – 16
Toyota Camry 865 x 497 – 58
Toyota Camry 2576 x 1932 – 628
Toyota Corolla 900 x 675 – 160
Toyota Gallery 1280 x 960- 185
Toyota Corolla …750 x 563 – 88
Peugeot 407 489 x 500 – 30
PEUGEOT-LANGON-1.. …640 x 480 – 28
Peugeot 407SW.jpeg 28.1 K 450 x 300 – 29
kia 580 x 600 – 106
Kia Sportage 690 x 363 – 62
Kia Sorento 800 x 457 – 56
Volkswagen Bora 800 x 531 – 128
VOLKSWAGEN BORA 550 x 354 – 63. All our product are negotiable, we base in usa and we have another branch in nig so contact us for more details.
Thanks for co-opration.
We are sellers of all sort of electronics, such as cellphones, radio and tv set, games, vidio cameras, ipodss, laptops and many more.
June 12th, 2006 at 7:14 pmwe have in stock new and sealed in original company
box with complete accessoies.Presently we have all the
latest phones in stock at mouth watering prices..Contact us at: la_lawisphones@yahoo.com
All our product are nagotiable
SONY VAIO A217S– 100GB– 512MB RAM– XP HOME-$500
SONY VAIO B1VP– 40GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP PRO–$430
SONY VAIO T370P/L– 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP–$400
SONY VAIO A215Z 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP–$6450
SONY VAIO A397XP– 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP–$700
SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP–$450
SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP–$600
SONY VAIO FS295VP 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP–$550
SONY VAIO FS215Z 100GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP—$650
SONY VAIO A417M 80GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP–$650
SONY VAIO B1VP– 40GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP PRO–$300
SONY VAIO T370P/L– 60GB HD– 512MB RAM– XP PRO–$600
SONY VAIO LAPTOP– VGN-A117S–$600
SONY VAIO LAPTOP– VGN-S1XP–$800
ALPHASMART DANA PALM POWERED LAPTOP—$330
APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.5GHZ SUPERDRIVE WITH 15 INCH DISPLAY–$700
APPLE G5 POWERMAC 2.0GHZ DESKTOP COMPUTER–$700
APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.5GHZ SUPERDRIVE WITH 17 INCH DISPLAY–$600
APPLE G5 POWERMAC 2.5GHZ DESKTOP COMPUTER—$100
TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP– P20-102—-$500
APPLE 5GHZ SUPERDRIVE DESKTOP COMPUTER WITH 20 INCH MONITOR-$4500
TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP– P10-803—$500
ALPHASMART DANA PALM POWERED LAPTOP-$350
ALPHASMART DANA PALM POWERED LAPTOP PACK WIFI VERSION-$400
OQO MODEL 01 ULTRA PERSONAL COMPUTER (XP PRO)—$450
TOSHIBA SATELLITE PRO A60 40GB– C2.8GHZ– 15INCH– DVD/CDR$450
FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK – WI-FI– GPRS– BLUETOOTH– 1GHZ (BLACK)—-$550
FUJITSU SIEMENS LIFEBOOK P7010 60GB– P4 1.1GHZ– 10.6INCH– DVD/CDRW
$600
ASUS A4744K-LH AMD64 POWER WORKSTATION LAPTOP—$450
FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK – WI-FI– GPRS– BLUETOOTH– 1GHZ (RED)—$610
FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK – WI-FI– GPRS– BLUETOOTH– 1GHZ (BLUE)—$500
ALPHASMART DANA PALM POWERED LAPTOP—$300
FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK – WI-FI– GPRS– BLUETOOTH– 1GHZ (YELLOW)–$500
TOSHIBA TECRA M2 40GB– PM 1.5GHZ– 14INCH– WIFI– DVD-CDRW—-$500
FLYBOOK NOTEBOOK – WI-FI– GPRS– BLUETOOTH– 1GHZ (SILVER)—$500
TOSHIBA PORTEGE R100 40GB– 512MB– XP PRO—$500
TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP– M30-742—$550
APPLE G5 POWERMAC 1.8GHZ DESKTOP COMPUTER–$500
HP PAVILION LAPTOP– ZD7145EA–$500
HP PAVILION LAPTOP– ZD7255EA–$500
APPLE CINEMA HD 23-INCH TFT LCD MONITOR–$500
SONY VAIO LAPTOP– VGN PCGK21 5Z–$500
SAMSUNG LAPTOP– X30 LWC 1500–$500
G4 POWERBOOK 1.33GHZ SUPERDRIVE WITH 12 INCH DISPLAY-$600
SONY VAIO PCVW2 DESKTOP–$450
HP PAVILION LAPTOP– ZX5151EA PHOTOSMART–$400
TOSHIBA SATELLITE LAPTOP– M30-832–$400
HP PAVILION LAPTOP– ZT3215EA–$550
SAMSUNG LAPTOP– M40 HWM 745–$500
APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.3GHZ COMBO WITH 15 INCH DISPLAY-$700
Play station 1……… $100
Play station 2 ….$110
Play station 3…..$120
samsung handycam 380 x 310 – 41 …$480
samsung handycam 380 x 380 – 45…$470
Samsung mini-dvd-r mini-dvd-rw 205 x 154 – 7 …$600
Samsung mini-dvd-r mini-dvd-rw 200 x 347 – 14 …$630
Sony HandyCam..500 x 379 – 35..$320
Sony lanza tres nuevas 309 x 206 – 19…$480
Sony DCRHC65 MiniDV Digital 500 x 339 – 30 …$620
Sony Handycam DCR-HC17 miniDV 500 x 405 – 35…$650
Sony-Handycam-Dcr-Trv238.317 x 270 – 17 …$500
Apple 60 GB ipod video = $100.00
Apple 30 GB ipod video = $100.00
Xbox 360………$150
GARMIN 396……..$130
Apple 4 GB ipod nano =us$60.00
Apple 2 GB ipod nano =us$55.00
Apple 4 GB ipod mini silver m9160ll/a=us$43.00
Apple 60 GB ipod photo m9830ll/a =us$82.00
Apple 60 GB ipod photo =us$49.00
Apple 30 GB ipod photo m9829ll/a =us$73.00
NEXTEL 1930 JUST FOR…$120USD
NEXTEL i870at JUST FOR ..$140usd
NEXTEL i450 JUST FOR ..90usd
NEXTEL 1860 JUST FOR ..$110USD
SAMSUNG SCH i830 JUST FOR …$220USD
SAMSUNG MM-1940 JUST FOR ..$190USD
SAMSUNG SGH D307JUST FOR..$180USD
SAMSUNG SGH D720 JUST FOR …$170USD
SAMSUNG D500 JUST FOR ..$160USD
MOTOROLA V3 RAZ JUST FOR..$160USD BLACK COLOR,
MPX 300 JUST FOR .$180USD
SIDEKICK 2 JUST FOR ..$120USD
SONYERICSSON P990 JUST FOR …$210USD
SONYERICSSON W900 JUST …$190USD
SONYERICSSON Z500a JUST FOR .$180usd
SONYERICSSON Z520 JUST FOR .$190USD
SONYERICSSON P910 JUST FOR..$160USD
SONYERICSSON P800 JUST FOR.$130USD
SONYERICSSON K750i JUST FOR .$150USD
SONYERICCSON W800I JUST FOR ….$160
MOTOROLA V3 BLACK JUST FOR $160,PINK $200,BLUE $270
NOKIA 9500 COMMUNICATOR JUST FOR ..$220USD
NOKIA 9300 COMMUNICATOR JUST FOR ..$210USD
NOKIA 7360 JUST FOR ..$170USD
NOKIA 7370 JUST FOR ..$180USD
NOKIA 770 JUST FOR .$160USD
NOKIA 6682 JUST FOR $150USD
NOKIA 7380 JUST FOR$200USD
NOKIA 8800 JUST FOR $220USD
NOKIA N90 JUST FOR $200USD
NOKIA N91 JUST FOR $250USD
NOKIA N92 JUST FOR…$220USD
NOKIA N80 JUST FOR $250USD
NOKIA N71 JUST FOR …$200USD
NOKIA N70 JUST FOR …$180USD
NOKIA E60 JUST FOR A $160USD
NOKIA E61 FOR At ..$180USD.
All our product are nagotiable
All our product are nagotiable
All this documents will enable you to clear the consignment from the career on deliver. The phone is treeband and it work with T-mobile, Vodafone Sim and other sim card or any net work service.
Your urgent response to this request will be highly appreciated.
Regards,
Lawis.
Hello my dear people,
June 12th, 2006 at 7:17 pmMy name is Kabiru Agbabiaka, the osolo of onisolo, me and the other Obas are using this means to advertise to you and the entire world that here in our coutry (Nigeria) there are lands we would like to sale out to those of you that want to build factories, hotels, houses, E.T.C.
As a king in Nigeria we have the power and the suport of the Nigerin goverment to sale lands to anybody without any ecumbarance.
We have 100% garantee with the Nigerian goverment aproval document incase of any aggressor.
Our head office is located at 12 ogbomosho street Abuja Nigeria.
If you are interested in transacting business with us, please email us through our mail adress:(omoonileofosolo@hotmail.com) or call 2348023919346, 2348062192591.
We have 5 eccer of alnd at igbesa along abeokuta exp way.
19 accres of land at ibadan exp way.
About 15 accres of land at songo ota.
6,1/2 accres at agbara lagos island.
3 accres at badagiri express way lagos.
9 accres, 2 plot at langbasa lagos island.
Available land in okota Lagos..
Available land in eko idumota Lagos.
Available land in Ado ekiti.
Available land in festak Lagos.
Available land in leki Lagos.
Kindly get back to us for more information, and if you are not satisfy with the listed locations, do tell us where you want your land to be and see if we can help.
Thanks.
Kabiru.
Nokia N93…….$300usd
Nokia N70…….$160usd
Nokia N71…….$160usd
Nokia N72…….$200usd
Nokia N90…….$180usd
Nokia N91…….$200usd
Nokia n92…….$220usd
Nokia n80…….$180usd
Nokia 6682……$160usd
Nokia 6830……$130usd
Nokia 7700……$130usd
Nokia 8100……$125usd
Nokia 8800……$140usd
Nokia 8910i……$160usd
Nokia 9210i……$160usd
Nokia 9300…….$160usd
Nokia 9500……$180usd
Nokia N Gage QD……$140usd
O2 X3…….$120usd
O2 X4…….$120usd
O2 XDA2…..$120usd
O2 XDA2i….$120usd
O2 XDA2s….$125usd
O2 3G Datacard…..$125usd
Orange Blackberry……..$170usd
Orange 3G Datacard…….$150usd
Orange SPV C500…….$130usd
Orange SPV M2000,,,,,,$120usd
Panasonic X60……..$120usd
Panasonic X70……..$125usd
Panasonic X300…….$120usd
Panasonic X700…….$150usd
Samsung z710………$280usd
Samsung M8000……..$250usd
Samsung D410………$150usd
Samsung D600………$200usd
Samsung d500………$190usd
Samsung E310………$140usd
Samsung E330………$140usd
Samsung E600………$130usd
Samsung E630………$130usd
Samsung E700………$135usd
Samsung E720………$140usd
LG 8150………….$150usd
LG 8150………….$140usd
LG G8000…………$130usd
MDA4…………….$130usd
Mitac MIO 8930……$250usd
Motorola A600…….$146usd
Motorola A630…….$148usd
Motorola A760…….$150usd
Motorola A780…….$154usd
Motorola A840…….$162usd
Motorola E1………$134usd
Motorola MPX……..$125usd
Motorola MPX100…..$120usd
Motorola MPX300.,…$115usd
Nextel i930………$130usd
Nextel i870………$120usd
Nextel i860………$110usd
Sony Ericsson w900i….$160usd
Sony Ericsson S600i….$134usd
Sony Ericsson V600i….$132usd
Sony Ericsson V800i….$137usd
Sony Ericsson W800i….$140usd
sony Ericsson w600i….$138usd
sony Ericsson p910i….$140usd
Sony Ericsson p990i….$180usd
Treo 710……………$250usd
Treo 700……………$220usd
Treo 600……………$170usd
Treo 650……………$190usd
Samsung D410………$145usd
Samsung D500………$160usd
Samsung d600………$180usd
Motorola razor v3………$130usd
Motorola razor v3 pink edition….$140usd
Motorola v3x………………$135usd
Motorola MPX100…..$120usd
Motorola MPX300.,…$115usd
Nextel i930………$130usd
Nextel i870………$120usd
Nextel i860………$110usd
Sony Ericsson W900i….$150usd
Sony Ericsson W800i….$140usd
sony Ericsson w600i….$138usd
treo 600……………$150usd
Treo 650……………$160usd
Treo 700w………..$200usd
ipod 60 gb video………..$120usd
apple ipod 30 gb……..$60usd
you can reach us at ashleymobiledepot@yahoo.com
June 17th, 2006 at 6:16 amANDREW TRADING NIG LTD
122 ABIOLA DRIVE,
COMPUTER VILLA.
IKEJA
LAGOS, NIGERIA
:
WE ARE SELLING THE SONY ERICSSON P910i MOBILE PHONES AT JUST $160usd….REPLY BACK TO Email.andrewtradingltd@yahoo.com PHONES SELLERS INCORPORATED 122 abiola drive computer villa.ikeja lagos nigeria Telephone Number +238050775277 Email Address: Email.andrewtradingltd@yahoo.com Dear Sir/Ma, LETTER OF BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP We are mobile phones wholesalers.We deals on all brands and models of mobile phones such as Nokia,Motorola,Samsung,Sony Ericsson,Sagem,Nextel,Sidekick II,Sprint and many more at very cheap prices.We are using this medium to look for buyers of mobile phones.Do kindly reply back if you are interested and as you do you will be glad you do, you can reach us through our email address:Email.andrewtradingltd@yahoo.com thank’s and God bless. John Williams President. so you can contact us at Email.andrewtradingltd@yahoo.com
FOR SELL MOTOROLA RAZOR V3 $150USD
FOR SELL SAMSUNG D500 $180USD
FOR SELL NEXTEL I930 $130USD
FOR SELL NEXTEL I860 $112USD
FOR SELL NOKIA 9500 COMMUNICATOR $200USD
FOR SELL MPX 220 $129USD
FOR SELL Sony Ericsson P900 ..$143usd
FOR SELL SIDEKICK 2 FOR JUST:$130USD
FOR SELL Sony Ericsson P910i …$160usd
FOR SELL MOTOROLA RAZOR V3 AT JUST……… $150USD
FOR SELL MTOROLA MPX 300 AT JUST …………$130USD
FOR SELL MOTOROLA MPX 200 ………………$125USD
FOR SELL NOKIA 9500 AT JUST /…………….$200USD
FOR SELL FOR SELL NEXTEL I860 AT JUST ……………$110usd
FOR SELL NEXTEL I930 AT JUST ……………..$130
FOR SELL NOKIA 8850 SPECIAL EDITION– US$150
FOR SELL NOKIA 8850 GOLD EDITION– US$126
FOR SELL NOKIA NOKIA N70 FOR JUST …..$160USD
FOR SELL NOKIA NOKIA N90 FPR JUST ….$180USD
FOR SELL NOKIA NOKIA N91 FOR JUST …..$210USD
FOR SELL NOKIA NOKIA N92 FOR JUST….$240USD
WE ARE SELLING ALL KIND OF GAMES AND IPODS AT A CHEAP PRICES Emeil Email.andrewtradingltd@yahoo.com
June 20th, 2006 at 9:11 pmplay station 2 ….$130
play station 3…..$150
x_box 360………$200
GARMIN 396……..$150
Game boy latext edition……$110
this games are brand new sealed in black company Box.
Apple 20 GB iPod …………………….45 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Pink M9435LL/A ……40 USD
Apple 40 GB iPod photo………………..40 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Silver M9160LL/A ….40 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A……….60 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod photo ……………….55 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A……….50 USD
Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player……40 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A…….45 USD
Apple 2 GB iPod Nano………………….50 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Nano………………….60 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Vidoe……………….110 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Vidoe……………….150 USD
Email. Email.andrewtradingltd@yahoo.com
Dear Buyers,
July 4th, 2006 at 6:03 amBuy Nokia,N70,N71,N80,N90,N91,N92,N93,6600,6680,8800,9300,9500,Motorola Razr V3i Nextel i850 i855 i355 i930 i920 i870 i760 i560 i325 i315 i215 i285 i930 And Manymore At Very Low Price.Ok
For Any Informations Please Contact Us On:
Call Us At: +234-80-58583179
Email: globalphonesltd@yahoo.com
Email: globalphonesltd@yahoo.com
Thanks And God Bless
Mr.John Scott
Director.
Dear buyer
July 4th, 2006 at 7:45 pmWe are a new and uk verfired company and major distributors/exporters of phones,ipods,laptops,games,and GPS at an unbeatable price and they are all brand new,tested with one year warrenty and they comaes in a factory sealed boxes.
Name:Wiliams Richard
Email:silvergalleryblink@gmail.com
HERE ARE THE PRODUCTS/ PRICES AVALIABLE.
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Phones
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Brand new Motorola E895 **** 160 USD
Brand new Motorola V3x **** 170 USD
Brand new Motorola V8 **** 160 USD
Brand new Motorola V6 **** 160 USD
Brand new Motorola A1010 **** 150 USD
Brand new Motorola E1060 **** 140 USD
Brand new Motorola V1050 **** 150 USD
Brand new Samsung D600 **** 220 USD
Brand New Nokia N91 **** 230 USD
Brand New Nokia N90 **** 210 USD
Brand New Nokia N92 **** 250 USD
Brand New Nokia N93 **** 450 Usd
Brand New Nokia N70 **** 210 USD
Brand New Nokia 1600 **** 100 USD
Brand New Nokia 1110 **** 100 USD
Brand New Nokia 1101 **** 130 USD
Brand New Nokia 5140i **** 140 USD
Brand New Nokia 8800 **** 210 USD
Brand New Nokia 6230i **** 170 USD
Brand New Nokia 6230 **** 150 USD
Sony Ericsson W800 $216.00
Sony Ericsson W800i $224.99
Sony Ericsson W900 $236.00
Sony Ericsson W900i $233.99
Nokia 8800 $201.99
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laptops
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Toshiba Satellite A75-S229 Laptop Computer—$200
Toshiba Satellite M45-S311 Laptop Computer—$390
Toshiba Satellite R15-S822 Laptop Computer—$600
Toshiba Qosmio G15-AV501 Laptop Computer—$1000
Toshiba Satellite A65-S126 Laptop Computer—$200
Toshiba Satellite P25-S526 Laptop Computer—$1000
Toshiba Satellite A45-S120 Laptop Computer—$300
Toshiba Satellite M35X-S149 Laptop Computer—$400
Toshiba Qosmio E15-AV101 Laptop Computer—$900
Toshiba Satellite P35-S609 Laptop Computer—$850
Toshiba Qosmio F15-AV201 Laptop Computer—-$650
Toshiba Portege M200 Laptop Computer——$500
Pentium 4—$450.etc
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Games
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Xbox 360 premium package: $240.00
Psp (play station): $175.00
Ps2:$145.00
Ps3:$245.00
Ps1:$75.00
Apple iPod nano 4GB:$131.50us
Apple iPod nano 2GB:$112.00us
Apple 30 GB Video iPod:$202.50us
Apple 60 GB Video iPod:$217.00us
Apple 20 GB iPod : $126.00USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini:$105.00USD
Apple 6 GB iPod Mini:$114.00USD
Apple 40 GB iPod photo:$110.00USD
Apple 60 GB iPod photo:$130.00USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo:$116.00
Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player:$94.00
We await your response soon
Regards
Williams
Hello Great Buyers,
July 14th, 2006 at 8:32 pmHere is newest offer given by our great company given to mobile phone
sellers and buyers all over the world as mobile phone company has come to
extend there mobile saleing to all over the world for people to get more
achivenment and enjoy benefits of the mobile company.
We deliver via DHL and deliver within 1day and 24hours to any part of the
worlds..Europe,america,africa,asia,carribeans and all over the world as we
make benefits in giving you 100% customer service and we do wire transfer to
make things fast and effective as we send immediately after the
confirmation.
labels are brand new ,unlock they are sim free and work with any network
and simcards,
T2 Euro spec with operator Logo and also comes with Manual of your
Choiceincluding(English,Spanish,Afrikan,czech,Arabic,italia,Switsz,french
and many more.)Located outside us comes with discount and shippment to your door step. Get
back to us with your order and delivery details.basictecinc@hotmail.com,justelectronic@gmail.com
+447024036943.
CIONG XIONG MOBILE DEPOT,bring to your noitice there price listing
for the following brand of phoones.all the mobile we sell is in
stock and they are brand new,unlock,sim free.with even guaranty.our
mode of shippment is FEDEX COURIER COMPANY,they will deliver
packages to you at your door step.which will take just 48 hours.we
will be glad to hear from you in details about what we offer.here
is the available phones listing as listed below….
Sony ericsson z1010…..$200usd
Sony ericsson w990 for $230usd
Sony ericsson w950i……$180usd
Sony ericcson p990 for $150usd
Sony ericsson w900 for $150usd
Sony ericsson w600 for $135usd
Sony ericsson p910i for $100usd
Sony ericsson p900 for $150usd
sony ericsson v600i for $120usd
Sony ericssson w800i for $150usd
Sony ericssson k700i for $100usd
Sony ericcson k500i for $100usd
Sony ericsson w850 for $180
Sony ericsson j220 for $250
Sony ericsson j230 for $200
Sony ericsson p800 for $190
Nokia 6610i for $80usd
Nokia 7270 for $130usd
Nokia 7710 for $160usd
Nokia 6670 for $110usd
Nokia 3230 for $120usd
Nokia 8800 for $160usd
Nokia 9300 for 4180usd
Nokia 9500 for $180usd
Nokia n93 for $250usd
Nokia n73 for $230usd
Nokia n92 for $200usd
Nokia n80 for $180usd
Nokia n71 for $1800usd
Nokia n91 for $190usd
Nokia n90 for $180usd
Nokia n70 for $170usd
Nokia 6265i for $220usd
Nokia 6101 for $190usd
Nokia 6060 $200usd
Nokia 6270 for $200usd
Nokia neo for $250usd
Nokia 6230i for $150usd
Nokia 6630 for $120usd
Nokia 6680 for $150usd
Nokia 7610 for $120usd
Nokia 7290 for $180usd
Nokia 3250 for $200usd
Nokia 7380 for $280usd
Nokia 7370 for $260usd
Nokia 7360 for $250usd
Nokia 6102 for $200usd
Nokia e70 for $280usd
Nokia e61 for $260usd
Nokia 3250 for $250usd
Nokia 6280 for $220usd
Nokia 6270 for $200usd
Nokia 6600 for $100usd
Samsung serene for $250usd
Samsung x810 for $200usd
S amsung z700 for $200usd
Samsung z710i for $210usd
Samsung i730 for $150usd
Samsung p860 for $260usd
Samsung p850 for $220usd
Samsung d500 for $150usd
Samsung d600 for $170usd
Samsung scgh i3000 $150usd
Samsung e800 $100usd
Sagem my-x8 20usd for $130usd
Motorola v8 for $180usd
Motorola v600 for $90usd
Motorola v3 for $150usd
Motorola rokr e1 for $160usd
Motorola v3c for $180usd
Motorola slvr l7 for $180usd
Motorola q for $250usd
i-mate jas jar for $150usd
i-mate jam for $200usd
i-mate k jam for $250usd
Sick kick for $130usd
Side kick ii for $150usd
Side kick iii for $170usd
Nextel i930 for $130usd
Nextel i860 for $112usd
Nextel i870 for $140usd
Pamtero 600 for $145usd
Pamtero 650 for $170usd
Treo 650 for $140usd
Treo 700 for $200usd
Treo 750 for $250usd
Eten m 500 for $140usd
Dvx-pod for $40usd
Ipod video 30GB $130USD
Ipod video 60GB. $190USD
Apple iPod nano Media Player 2GB — $100
Apple iPod nano Media Player 4GB — $130
Apple iPod nano Media Player 6GB — $190
to buy contact cxiongmobiledepot@hotmail.com
July 15th, 2006 at 8:32 amWE ARE AN ELECTRONIC DEALER WHO SPECIALIZES IN THE SALES OF MOBILEPHONES, LAPTOPS, PLASMA TV, IPODS, PSP, XBOX
EMAIL:linconmobile06@yahoo.com,linconmobile05@hotmail.com
PHONE# : +2348022775529
HERE ARE SOME OF THE PHONES WE HAVE IN STOCK
MOTOROLA RAZOR V3 AT JUST $110usd,
MOTOROLA V3x AT JUST $140usd
SONY ERICSSON P910i AT JUST $160usd
SONY ERICSSON K500i, $100
SONY ERICSSON S700i $120
SONY ERICSSON Z1010 $150
NOKIA 6630 AT JUST $130
SAMSUNG E700 AT JUST $140
SAMSUNG E715 AT JUST $140
SAMSUNG E 800 AT JUST $150
MOTOROLA MPX 200 ..$125USD
NEXTEL I860 AT JUST .$100
NEXTEL I930 AT JUST .$120
NOKIA 8800 AT JUST …$180
NOKIA N93 AT JUST,$230
NOKIA 3250 AT JUST,$210
NOKIA N80 AT JUST,$200
NOKIA N70 AT JUST $150
NOKIA 9500 AT JUST $180
NOKIA N92 AT JUST .$200
NOKIA 8801 AT JUST .$170
SAMSUNG D500 AT JUST $140
SAMSUNG D600 AT JUST $150
NOKIA 9300 AT JUST $180
NOKIA 7280 AT JUST $130,
NOKIA 7610, AT JUST $120
NOKIA N90 AT $180
NOKIA N91 AT JUST $210
SONY ERICSSON W800i AT $160
SONY ERICSSON W900i AT $170
SONY ERICSSON W600 AT $130
O2 XDA Atom— Price $200
SONY ERICSSON k790—— Price $140
MOTOROLA A12000———$130
BenQ-Siemens P51— Price $180
BenQ P50—–Price $140
NEC e636—- Price $100
ETEN M600—- Price $190
ETEN G500—– Price $170
Treo 700…..$200usd
Treo 600…….$150usd
Treo 650……$160usd
Motorola V3i…….$150usd
Motorola L7……$140USD
Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player……40 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A…….45 USD
Apple 2 GB iPod Nano………………….50 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Nano………………….60 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Video………………..110 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Video………………..150 USD
X box premium console ……………… .190 usd
Ps3 ………………………………..220 usd
Ps2 ………………………………..160 usd
SIDEKICK II AT JUST ………………….$120usd
Mitac MIO 8930……………………….$280usd
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Pink M9435LL/A ……40 USD
Apple 40 GB iPod photo………………..40 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Silver M9160LL/A ….40 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A……….60 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod photo ……………….55 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A……….50 USD
AND MANY MORE PHONES IN STOCK, INTERESTED BUYER SHOULD CONTACT US
July 20th, 2006 at 10:11 amon the following for more information
EMAIL:linconmobile05@yahoo.com,linconmobile05@hotmail.com
PHONE# : +2348022775529
NEXTEL I930 FOR JUST $130, NEXTEL I860 FOR JUST $112, SAMSUNG D 500 FOR JUST $180, MOTOROLA RAZOR V3 FOR JUST $150, SIDEKICK 2 FOR JUST $130, MPX300 FOR JUST $180, NOKIA 9500 FOR JUST $200, NOKIA 8800 FOR JUST $200, P910 FOR JUST $185, P800 FOR JUST $170, you can reach us at ashleymobiledepot112@yahoo.com
NEXTEL I930 FOR JUST $130, NEXTEL I860 FOR JUST $112, SAMSUNG D 500 FOR JUST $180, MOTOROLA RAZOR V3 FOR JUST $150, SIDEKICK 2 FOR JUST $130, MPX300 FOR JUST $180, NOKIA 9500 FOR JUST $200, NOKIA 8800 FOR JUST $200, P910 FOR JUST $185, P800 FOR JUST $170, you can reach us at ashleymobiledepot112@yahoo.com
all this phones are brand new also saled in new box come with complete accesries with 1year international waranty and the phones are already unlock
Nokia N91 for just $150
July 23rd, 2006 at 8:32 amNokia N70 for just $138
Nokia N90 :$160
Motorola i265 :$125
Samsung SPH-V Siemens SXG75 :$100
PalmOne Unlocks Treo 650:$140
Nokia 6230i:$80
Sendo X2 Music Phone:$96
Panasonic X800 VS7 :$165
Motorola E1060 and E1120:$190
Nokia 6680:$220
Motorola A1010 PDA SmartPhone:$230
Sony Ericsson K600:$180
Nokia 6822 :$113
Treo 650:$170
Motorola i860:$112
Samsung SGH-D500:$180
Siemens S66:$60
Nokia 9300:$115
Samsung e316 :$140
Sony Ericcson K500
Nokia 7610:$136
Samsung SCH-a610:$160
Motorola E680:$195
Motorola A1000 :$200
Motorola V80:$120
Treo 600:$170
Sony Ericsson Z1010:$180
Samsung p207 :$200
Sony ericcson p990 for………… $150usd
Sony ericsson w900 for………… $150usd
Sony ericsson w600 for………….$135usd
Sony ericsson p910i for…………$100usd
Sony ericsson p900 for………… $150usd
sony ericsson v600i for ………..$120usd
Sony ericssson w800i for ………..$150usd
Sony ericssson k700i for ………..$100usd
Sony ericcson k500i for ………..$100usd
Sony ericsson w850 for …………$180usd
Sony ericsson j220 for …………$250usd
Sony ericsson j230 for …………$200usd
Sony ericsson p800 for …………$190usd
Nokia N70………….$160usd
Nokia N71………….$170usd
Nokia N72………….$170usd
Nokia N73………….$160usd
Nokia N80 …………$190usd
Nokia N90………….$210usd
Nokia N91………….$210usd
Nokia n92………….$230usd
Nokia N93 …………$247usd
Nokia 6230i………..$145usd
Nokia 6680…………$130usd
Nokia 6822…………$120usd
Nokia 9300…………$120usd
Nokia 7610…………$130usd
Nokia 6111…………$135usd
Nokia 9500 ………..$130usd
Nokia 8800 ………..$150usd
Samsung serene for…………..$250usd
Samsung x810 for…………….$200usd
S amsung z700 for …………..$260usd
Samsung p860 for…………….$260usd
Samsung p850 for ……………$220usd
Samsung d500 for ……………$150usd
Samsung d600 for …………..$170usd
Samsung scgh i3000 ………….$150usd
Samsung e800 ……………….$100usd
Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A……….60 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod photo ……………….55 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A……….50 USD
Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player……40 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A…….45 USD
Apple 2 GB iPod Nano………………….50 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Nano………………….60 USD
Qtek 9000 ……………………………$200
Qtek 9100 ……………………………$180
Qtek 8100…………………………….$160
Qtek 2020i……………………………$120
Qtek 1010…………………………….$100
Qtek 8080…………………………….$165
Qtek 8310…………………………….$160
Qtek 9090…………………………….$170
Qtek 8500…………………………….$130
Qtek S200…………………………….$180
Qtek 9000…………………………….$250
Qtek 8310…………………………….$200
Qtek 8300…………………………….$185
Qtek S110…………………………….$125
Qtek S100…………………………….$190
Qtek 9090…………………………….$200
Qtek 8020…………………………….$190
Qtek 8010…………………………….$140
Qtek 2020…………………………….$200
WE ARE AN ELECTRONIC DEALER WHO SPECIALIZES IN THE SALES OF
MOBILEPHONES, LAPTOPS, PLASMA TV, IPODS, PSP, XBOX,
HERE ARE SOME OF THE laptops and PHONES WE HAVE IN STOCK,
LAPTOPS
Acer TravelMate 1.3GHz Celeron M 256MB/40GB CD-RW/DVD ——-$250USD
Acer Aspire 1.5GHz Celeron 256MB Laptop Computer 192028 ——–$399USD
Electrovaya – PP120A – Power Pad 120 ——- $250USD
IntelliStation A Pro 622439U Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3——- $500USD
IntelliStation A Pro 622439U with NVIDIA Quadro FX 3000 —–$500USD
IntelliStation A Pro 6224 Opteron 248 36.4 2.2GHz 2GB ——$500USD
Low Price Averatec Notebook ——-$320USD
Gateway 2000 Solo 2100 2200 Lenmar LBGT2100L Battery ——-$110USD
IBM Thinkpad T42 1.7GHz 512MB 40GB CD-RW/DVD 15″ XGA —–$400USD
IBM ThinkPad X41 Tablet PC 1.5GHz 1.5GB 60GB Bluetooth——$500USD
IBM Thinkpad T43 1.86GHz 2GB 60GB DVD Burner 14.1″ SXGA ——$650USD
IBM Thinkpad R52 1.73GHz 768MB 40GB CD-RW/DVD 15″ XGA —–$330USD
Viewsonic Tablet Pc V1250, Convertible Tablet—–$440USD
IBM Thinkpad T43 PM 1.86GHz 1GB 40GB CDRW DVD WiFi XP——-$400USD
IBM Thinkpad T43 2GHz 1GB 60GB Multiburner ABG WiFi XP——$620USD
IBM ThinkPad X40 1.5GHz 1.28GB 40GB UltraBase Combo X41——$600USD
Dell Latitude C640 Intel Pentium 4-M 2.0GHz 14.1-inch ——$480USD
HP Laptops DV4307CL 1GB 100GB DVDRW 15.4″ Free Bundle——$300USD
High End HP Laptop 1GB 100GB DVDRW 15.4 WXGA Brightview —–$320USD
Sager 9750 Laptop ——–$550USD
PHONES.
July 31st, 2006 at 7:51 pmFOR SELL MOTOROLA RAZOR V3 MOBILE PHONE AT JUST ——-$150usd,
FOR SELLMOTOROLA V3x AT JUST———-$150usd ,
SONY ERICSSON P910i MOBILE PHONE AT JUST——$170usd
MOTOROLA MPX 200 ………………$130
MOTOROLA RAZOR V3—–$150
SIDEKICK 3—-$200
SIDEKICK 2—-$160
NEXTEL I860 —–$120
NEXTEL I930 AT JUST ——$140
NOKIA 8800 AT JUST ——$180
NOKIA N80 AT JUST ——-$175
NOKIA N70 AT JUST ——$165
NOKIA 9500 AT JUST——-$190
NOKIA N92 AT JUST ———$185
NOKIA 8801 AT JUST —–$190
Sony Ericsson K500i— $120
Sony Ericsson S700i— $140
Sony Ericsson: Z1010—- $160
nokia 6630 at just $150
samsung E700 AT JUST—— $150
SAMSUNG E715 AT JUST—– $150
SAMSUNG E 800 AT JUST—— $160
SAMSUND D500 AT JUST—- $140
SAMSUNG D600 AT JUST—— $170
NOKIA 9300 AT JUST—- $145
NOKIA 7280 AT JUST—— $120,
NOKIA 7610, AT JUST—- $125
nokia n90 is $165
nokia n91 at just—– $175
sony ericsson W800i —- $160
SONY ERICSSON W900i—– $165
SONY ERICSSON W600 —– $145
O2 XDA Atom—- $220
Sonyericsson k790—— $140
Motorola A12000———$130
BenQ-Siemens P51— Price $180
BenQ P50—–Price $160
NEC e636—- Price $110
ETEN M600—- Price $200
ETEN G500—– Price $190
xbox 360—$250
PSP—–$110
PSP 2—–$140
PSP 3—–$200
AND MANY MORE PHONES IN STOCK, INTERESTED BUYER SHOULD CONTACT US
Contact:Fred (SALES REP)
Email:(fredwilt007@yahoo.com)
We are Exporter and Wholesaler of different brands and models of Mobile phones,Games consoles and other electronics like Plasma TV,LCD Projector,Apple Ipods etc.All our products are brand new with complete accessories and manual for users guide,they also come with international warranty.
We sell all our products at wholesale prices.Here are some prices of the products we have in stock below :
MOTOROLA RAZR V3 ……………….. $120usd
PINK MOTOROLA RAZR V3 ……………. $130usd
MOTOROLA RAZR V3X ………………… $140usd
MOTOROLA MPX 220 …………………. $140usd
MOTOROLA MPX 300 …………………. $180usd
SONY ERICSSON W800i ………………..$170usd
SONY ERICSSON w600i ………………. $160usd
SONY ERICSSON W900i …………….. $200usd
SONY ERICSSON K700i ………………. $120usd
SONY ERICSSON K750i ……………….. $150usd
SONY ERICSSON S700i ……………….. $160usd
SONY ERICSSON P910i ………………. $190usd
SONY ERICSSON P990 ……………….. $250usd
NOKIA N70 AT JUST $180usd
NOKIA N80 AT JUST $180usd
NOKIA 9500 AT JUST $200usd
NOKIA N93 AT JUST $350usd
NOKIA 9300 AT JUST $180usd
NOKIA N90 AT JUST $200usd
NOKIA N91 AT JUST $220usd
NOKIA N92 AT JUST $240usd
NEXTEL i930 AT JUST $130usd
NEXTEL i870 AT JUST $100usd
TREO 650 AT JUST $140usd
TREO 700W ………………………………… $200usd
Sprint Products Smart Device SP-i600………….. $180usd
PPC6700SP Sprint PCS Vision Smart Device PPC-6700…. $200usd
Sprint 6601 Pocket PC (US)………………. $190usd
Sprint PCS PPC 6600 Camera Cell Phone PDA Pocket PC… $140usd
SIDEKICK II……………………. $140usd
SIDEKICK III …………………… $200usd
XBOX 360 ……………………… $190usd
Playstation 3……………………$170usd
SAMSUNG D600…………………. $200usd
SAMSUNG D500 ……………………. $150usd
SAMSUNG D415 ………………… $160usd
IMATE JASJAR………………… $250usd
Sony Psp……………………….$120usd
Playstation 2…………………..$110usd
Many other brands and models of mobile phones are available in stock for sale.Get back to us with your order soon.
August 1st, 2006 at 9:09 amThanks for the patronage.
Contact : axtonlimited@hotmail.com or axtonltd@yahoo.co.uk
kashimoto tech investment brings to your notice mobile phones,i pod,and other
hi tech product at cheaper rate.moreover safety comes first in our business so
packages will be brought to you at your door step via fedex courier company,here is the price listing below,they are all unlock.so we wil be glad to hear from you……………..
Nokia n93 for $240usd
Nokia n73 for $220usd
Nokia n92 for $200usd
Nokia n80 for $180usd
Nokia n71 for $180usd
Nokia n91 for $180usd
Nokia n90 for $180usd
Nokia n70 for $170usd
Nokia 6102 for $200usd
Nokia e70 for $280usd
Nokia e61 for $260usd
Nokia 8800 for $160usd
Nokia 9300 for 4180usd
Nokia 9500 for $180usd
Nokia 6600 for $100usd
Nokia 6610i for $80usd
Nokia 7270 for $130usd
Nokia 7710 for $160usd
Nokia 6670 for $110usd
Nokia 3230 for $120usd
Nokia 3250 for $240usd
Nokia 6270 for $200usd
Nokia 6280 for $220usd
Nokia 6265i for $220usd
Nokia 6101 for $190usd
Nokia 6060 $200usd
Nokia 6270 for $200usd
Nokia neo for $250usd
Nokia 6230i for $150usd
Nokia 6630 for $120usd
Nokia 6680 for $150usd
Nokia 7610 for $120usd
Nokia 7290 for $180usd
Nokia 3250 for $200usd
Nokia 7380 for $280usd
Nokia 7370 for $260usd
Nokia 7360 for $250usd
Sony ericsson z1010 for $190usd
Sony ericsson w950i for $190usd
Sony ericcson k500i for $100usd
Sony ericsson w850 for $150
Sony ericsson j220 for $200
Sony ericsson j230 for $200
Sony ericsson p800 for $190
Sony ericcson p990 for $150usd
Sony ericsson w900 for $160usd
Sony ericsson w600 for $135usd
Sony ericsson p910i for $100usd
Sony ericsson p900 for $150usd
sony ericsson v600i for $120usd
Sony ericssson w800i for $150usd
Sony ericssson k700i for $100usd
Sagem my-x8 20usd for $130usd
Motorola v8 for $180usd
Motorola v600 for $90usd
Motorola slvr l7 for $180usd
Motorola q for $230usd
Motorola v3 for $140usd
Motorola rokr e1 for $150usd
Motorola v3x for $170usd
Sick kick for $130usd
Side kick ii for $150usd
Side kick iii for $170usd
Nextel i930 for $130usd
Nextel i860 for $112usd
Nextel i870 for $140usd
i-mate jas jar for $200usd
i-mate jam for $200usd
i-mate k jam for $170usd
Samsung p850 for $200usd
Samsung d500 for $150usd
Samsung d600 for $170usd
Samsung serene for $240usd
Samsung x810 for $200usd
S amsung z700 for $260usd
Samsung p860 for $230usd
Samsung scgh i3000 $150usd
Samsung e800 $100usd
Treo 650 for $150usd
Treo 700 for $200usd
Eten m 500 for $140usd
Dvx-pod for $40usd
Pamtero 600 for $145usd
Pamtero 650 for $170usd
Ipod video 30GB $130USD
Ipod video 60GB $180USD
Ipod video 30GB $130USD
Ipod video 60GB. $190USD
Apple iPod nano Media Player 6GB — $190
Apple iPod nano Media Player 4GB — $130
Apple iPod nano Media Player 2GB — $100
August 3rd, 2006 at 6:52 am
BONANAZA! BONANAZA!! BONANAZA!!!
BUY TWO GET ONE FREE!!!
GOLDEN PENNY PHONE(GP phones ltd)
Email:billmobilephones@hotmail.com
BRAND NEW SIM FREE/OPEN LINES/UNLOCK.
We are mobile phones wholesalers and we do sale in pieces to enhance
our sales.We deals on all brands and models of mobile phones such as
Nokia,Motorola,Samsung,Sony Ericsson,Sagem, Nextel,Sidekick
II,Sprint,Ipods, Laptops, Mp3 players etc at very cheap prices.Also, this is to reach
our customers globally that its the season of BUY TWO GET ONE FREE.
We are using
this medium to reach interested buyers of mobile phones.Do kindly reply
back if you are interested. THE KINDS OF MOBILE PHONES ARE LISTED BELOW:
MOTOROLA RAZOR V3 for……..$150usd,
MOTORLA RAZOR V6 FOR……..$170usd,
MOTOROLA A1000 For $160,
MOTOROLA MPX 220 For…….. $135usd,
MOTOROLA MPX 300 For…….. $155usd,
SONY ERICSSON W800i For……..$160usd,
SONY ERICSSON K700i For…….. $150usd
SONY ERICSSON k750i For…….. $160usd
Sony Ericsson K500i For……… $130,
Sony Ericsson S700i For…….. $140,
SONY ERICSSON P900…….. For$165,
Sony Ericsson P910 For just $170usd,
Sony Ericsson: Z1010 For………..$175,
NOKIA 9500 For…….. $150usd,
NOKIA 9300 For…….. $130usd,
NOKIA 6260 For……..$140usd,
NOKIA 8800 For $150usd,
NOKIA N90 For…….. $180usd
NOKIA N91 For…….. $190usd,
NOKIA N92 For……….$200usd
NOKIA 7610 For………..$150,
NOKIA 6682 For…………145,
Nokia 6820 for ……….$130,
NOKIA 6682 For……….$160,
NOKIA 7650 For ……….$165,
NOKIA E60 for………. $160,
Nokia 6230 for………$130,
Nokia 6230i for ……….$140,
NOKIA E61 for………. $165.
NOKIA E70 for……… $170,
SENDO X For……….$140,
SIEMENS SX1 For……….$140,
NEXTEL i930 For…….. $130usd,
NEXTEL i860 For…….. $110usd,
SAMSUNG D500 For…….. $120usd,
SAMSUNG D600 FOR……..$130usd,
SAMSUNG Z500 For……..$160usd,
SAMSUNG D415 For…….. $110usd
SAMSUNG SGH-T500…For……. $120
SAMSUNG SGH-T200…For……. $100,
SAMSUNG SGH-E600…For $130
SAMSUNG
33SGH-D410 For……..$135,
SAMSUNG SGH-P100 For……..$100,
SAMSUNG E330C…For………$120,
SAMSUNG E800C For…………$150,
SAMSUNG D720 For ………….$150,
SAMSUNG D730 For ………….$155,
IPOD NANO
Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A……….60 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod photo ……………….55 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A……….50 USD
Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player……40 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A…….45 USD
Apple 2 GB iPod Nano………………….50 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Nano………………….60 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Vidoe……………….80 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Vidoe……………….100 USD
QTEK
Qtek s200 =$100
Qtek 9000 =$130
Qtek 8310 =$200
Qtek 8300 =$210
Qtek 9100 =$240
Qtek 8100 =$250
Qtek s110 =$210
Qtek s100 =$200
Qtek 9090 =$210
Qtek 8020 =$200
Qtek 8010 =$180
Qtek 2020i=$240
Qtek 2020 =$250
Qtek 8080 =$130
Qtek 8060 =$160
Qtek 1010 =$150
Qtek 7070 =$250
PDA
Brand new HP IPaq Pocket PC H4150 ========= $190
Brand new Asus MyPal A716 ================= $175
Brand new HP IPaq Pocket PC H4350 ========= $185
Brand new Toshiba Pocket PC E405 ========== $120
Brand new Sony Clie PEG-TH55 ============== $155
Brand new Toshiba Pocket PC E800 ========== $220
Brand new PalmOne Zire 72================== $120
Brand new PalmOne Tungsten E ============== $90
Brand new PalmOne Tungsten C ============== $140
Brand new PalmOne Zire 31 ================= $65
Brand new palm Treo 650=====================$240
Sony Laptops
Sony VAIO VGN-T1 $680
Sony VAIO VGN-FS315 $420
Sony VAIO VGN-S3 $450
Sony VAIO VGN-TX1 $840
Sony VAIO VGN-FS215 $ 310
Sony VAIO VGN-S5 $710
Sony VAIO VGN-FS295 $ 650
Sony VAIO VGN-A517 $590
Sony VAIO VGN-S4 $470
Sony VAIO PCG-K35 $550,
SIDEKICK
Sidekick II Cell Phone for 120usd
T-Mobile Sidekick 2 NOW with Service for 100usd
T-Mobile To Go Prepaid Sidekick II for 120usd
Sidekick II for T-Mobile with new service Plan 130usd
T-Mobile Sidekick II T-Mobile Replacement Phone for 110 usd
1996 Transfer Case: Sidekick 1996, and 1997 automatic….$140 usd
Sidekick Basic Kit…………………………………$150 usd
Sidekick II T-Mobile Cell Phone with Color Screen……..$130 usd
T-Mobile Sidekick 2 Danger Cell Phone………………..$130 usd
T-Mobile Sidekick II TMO to Go Prepaid Phone………….$140 usd
Mobile Sidekick II…………………………………$110 usd
ProTop 2 Piece Hardtop Suzuki Vitara / Chevy Tracker…..$150 usd
Protop 2 Piece Hardtop for Sidekick / Tracker ………..$160 usd
Original Extended Carbox Package 1989-1998……………$140 usd
Original Extended Carbox Sidekick/Tracker 2 &…………$130 usd
T-Mobile Sidekick 2 Danger Cell Phone………………..$130 usd
AND MANY MORE OF CHOICES…
WE PROVIDE A GOOD AND FAST SERVICES, OUR SHIPPMENT IS WITHIN
48HRS.
WE ARE GIVING OUR BUYERS A BONANZA OF WHICH IF YOU PURCHASE ANY TWO (2) MOBILE PHONES FROM OUR COMPANY, YOU WILL GET ONE (1) FOR FREE.
IF YOU ARE INTERESTED DO GET BACK TO US WITH YOUR FULL SHIPPING ADDRESS AND YOU CHOICE AND CONTACT PHONE NUMBER FOR THE EASY TRANSACTION
THANKS,
REGARD,
MANAGEMENT.
ABIOLA SAMUEL
+2348020881686,23457709838
Posted by: james at Jul 12, 2006 3:17:53 AM
BONANAZA! BONANAZA!! BONANAZA!!!
BUY TWO GET ONE FREE!!!
SILVER MOBILE LIMITED.
Email: billmobilephones@hotmail.com
BRAND NEW SIM FREE/OPEN LINES/UNLOCK.
We are mobile phones wholesalers and we do sale in pieces to enhance
our sales.We deals on all brands and models of mobile phones such as
Nokia,Motorola,Samsung,Sony Ericsson,Sagem, Nextel,Sidekick
II,Sprint,Ipods, Laptops, Mp3 players etc at very cheap prices.Also, this is to reach
our customers globally that its the season of BUY TWO GET ONE FREE.
We are using
this medium to reach interested buyers of mobile phones.Do kindly reply
back if you are interested. THE KINDS OF MOBILE PHONES ARE LISTED BELOW:
MOTOROLA RAZOR V3 for……..$150usd,
MOTORLA RAZOR V6 FOR……..$170usd,
MOTOROLA A1000 For $160,
MOTOROLA MPX 220 For…….. $135usd,
MOTOROLA MPX 300 For…….. $155usd,
SONY ERICSSON W800i For……..$160usd,
SONY ERICSSON K700i For…….. $150usd
SONY ERICSSON k750i For…….. $160usd
Sony Ericsson K500i For……… $130,
Sony Ericsson S700i For…….. $140,
SONY ERICSSON P900…….. For$165,
Sony Ericsson P910 For just $170usd,
Sony Ericsson: Z1010 For………..$175,
NOKIA 9500 For…….. $150usd,
NOKIA 9300 For…….. $130usd,
NOKIA 6260 For……..$140usd,
NOKIA 8800 For $150usd,
NOKIA N90 For…….. $180usd
NOKIA N91 For…….. $190usd,
NOKIA N92 For……….$200usd
NOKIA 7610 For………..$150,
NOKIA 6682 For…………145,
Nokia 6820 for ……….$130,
NOKIA 6682 For……….$160,
NOKIA 7650 For ……….$165,
NOKIA E60 for………. $160,
Nokia 6230 for………$130,
Nokia 6230i for ……….$140,
NOKIA E61 for………. $165.
NOKIA E70 for……… $170,
SENDO X For……….$140,
SIEMENS SX1 For……….$140,
NEXTEL i930 For…….. $130usd,
NEXTEL i860 For…….. $110usd,
SAMSUNG D500 For…….. $120usd,
SAMSUNG D600 FOR……..$130usd,
SAMSUNG Z500 For……..$160usd,
SAMSUNG D415 For…….. $110usd
SAMSUNG SGH-T500…For……. $120
SAMSUNG SGH-T200…For……. $100,
SAMSUNG SGH-E600…For $130
SAMSUNG
33SGH-D410 For……..$135,
SAMSUNG SGH-P100 For……..$100,
SAMSUNG E330C…For………$120,
SAMSUNG E800C For…………$150,
SAMSUNG D720 For ………….$150,
SAMSUNG D730 For ………….$155,
IPOD NANO
Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A……….60 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod photo ……………….55 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A……….50 USD
Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player……40 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A…….45 USD
Apple 2 GB iPod Nano………………….50 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Nano………………….60 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Vidoe……………….80 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Vidoe……………….100 USD
QTEK
Qtek s200 =$100
Qtek 9000 =$130
Qtek 8310 =$200
Qtek 8300 =$210
Qtek 9100 =$240
Qtek 8100 =$250
Qtek s110 =$210
Qtek s100 =$200
Qtek 9090 =$210
Qtek 8020 =$200
Qtek 8010 =$180
Qtek 2020i=$240
Qtek 2020 =$250
Qtek 8080 =$130
Qtek 8060 =$160
Qtek 1010 =$150
Qtek 7070 =$250
PDA
Brand new HP IPaq Pocket PC H4150 ========= $190
Brand new Asus MyPal A716 ================= $175
Brand new HP IPaq Pocket PC H4350 ========= $185
Brand new Toshiba Pocket PC E405 ========== $120
Brand new Sony Clie PEG-TH55 ============== $155
Brand new Toshiba Pocket PC E800 ========== $220
Brand new PalmOne Zire 72================== $120
Brand new PalmOne Tungsten E ============== $90
Brand new PalmOne Tungsten C ============== $140
Brand new PalmOne Zire 31 ================= $65
Brand new palm Treo 650=====================$240
Sony Laptops
Sony VAIO VGN-T1 $680
Sony VAIO VGN-FS315 $420
Sony VAIO VGN-S3 $450
Sony VAIO VGN-TX1 $840
Sony VAIO VGN-FS215 $ 310
Sony VAIO VGN-S5 $710
Sony VAIO VGN-FS295 $ 650
Sony VAIO VGN-A517 $590
Sony VAIO VGN-S4 $470
Sony VAIO PCG-K35 $550,
SIDEKICK
Sidekick II Cell Phone for 120usd
T-Mobile Sidekick 2 NOW with Service for 100usd
T-Mobile To Go Prepaid Sidekick II for 120usd
Sidekick II for T-Mobile with new service Plan 130usd
T-Mobile Sidekick II T-Mobile Replacement Phone for 110 usd
1996 Transfer Case: Sidekick 1996, and 1997 automatic….$140 usd
Sidekick Basic Kit…………………………………$150 usd
Sidekick II T-Mobile Cell Phone with Color Screen……..$130 usd
T-Mobile Sidekick 2 Danger Cell Phone………………..$130 usd
T-Mobile Sidekick II TMO to Go Prepaid Phone………….$140 usd
Mobile Sidekick II…………………………………$110 usd
ProTop 2 Piece Hardtop Suzuki Vitara / Chevy Tracker…..$150 usd
Protop 2 Piece Hardtop for Sidekick / Tracker ………..$160 usd
Original Extended Carbox Package 1989-1998……………$140 usd
Original Extended Carbox Sidekick/Tracker 2 &…………$130 usd
T-Mobile Sidekick 2 Danger Cell Phone………………..$130 usd
AND MANY MORE OF CHOICES…
WE PROVIDE A GOOD AND FAST SERVICES, OUR SHIPPMENT IS WITHIN
48HRS.
WE ARE GIVING OUR BUYERS A BONANZA OF WHICH IF YOU PURCHASE ANY TWO (2) MOBILE PHONES FROM OUR COMPANY, YOU WILL GET ONE (1) FOR FREE.
IF YOU ARE INTERESTED DO GET BACK TO US WITH YOUR FULL SHIPPING ADDRESS AND YOU CHOICE AND CONTACT PHONE NUMBER FOR THE EASY TRANSACTION
THANKS,
August 6th, 2006 at 3:14 pmREGARD,
MANAGEMENT.
ABIOLA SAMUEL
+234-802-088-1686,23457709838
we have all kind of mobile phones for sale.we have all kind of Brand
August 7th, 2006 at 7:24 pmnew nokia, Brand new sony ericsson, samsung, motorola, nextel,qtek,
benq, os and all kind of mobile phones. our mobile phones are:-
1) Brand new gsm phones (this includes accessories, manuals,
softwareand boxes)
2) unlocked / sim free.
3) Brand new (original manufacturer) box – no copies
4) all phones have english language asdefault
5) all material (software, manual) – car chargers – home
chargers – usb data cables – holsters/belt clips – wireless
headsets(bluetooth) – leather and non-leather carrying cases –
batteries.ifyou are interested, forward your questions and enquires to
us via email with your order and shipping details. we give 1 year
warranty for every phone sold out to our costumers, our phones are
company class 1 tested and approved by global standard organization of
wireless industries, Brand new phones with complete accessories, extra
charger and battery.serious buyers should
Contact Personeter Greg.
Email:nicobash2004@hotmail.com
Email:nicobash2004@yahoo.com
Nokia 6020 tri-bank edge gsm/gprs $224.99
Nokia 7610 tri-band gsm/gprs $324.99
Nokia 9500 tri-band pda gsm/gprs $724.99
Nokia 6822 gsm/gprs phone $274.99
Nokia n93 $200usd
Nokia 3200 $90usd
Nokia 3300 $95usd
Nokia 3660 $95usd
Nokia 5100 $100usd
Nokia 5140 $100usd
Nokia 6100 $100usd
Nokia 6108 $100usd
Nokia 6220 $120usd
Nokia 6230 $120usd
Nokia 6230i $125usd
Nokia 6260 $120usd
Nokia 6270 $130usd
Nokia 6600 $125usd
Nokia 6630 $125usd
Nokia 6610 $115usd
Nokia 6610i $115sd
Nokia 6650 $120usd
Nokia 6670 smart phone $100usd
Nokia 6820 $110
Nokia 7200 $125usd
Nokia 7210 110usd
Nokia 3230 110usd
Nokia 7610 180usd
Nokia 9300 1800usd
Nokia 7250 70usd
Nokia 7250i 115usd
Nokia 7260 120usd
Nokia 7200 100usd
Nokia 7600i 100usd
Nokia 7610 152usd
Nokia 8910i 110usd
Nokia 8910i c..110usd
Nokia 9210i communicator 120usd
Nokia 9500 communicator160usd
Nokia 9300 communicator..180usd
Nokia n-gage 110usd
Nokia n-gage qd.140usd
Nokia 7710 120usd
Nokia 6680 180usd
Nokia 8800 160usd
Nokia 6680 110usd
Nokia 6681 180usd
Nokia n90 120usd
Nokia n91 1500usd
Nokia n70 180usd
Nokia 6060 100usd
Nokia 6111 200usd
Samsungs
Samsung d500 110usd
Samsung e600 80usd
Samsung e800 20usd
Samsung p510 100usd
Samsung sgh-d410 $170usd
Samsung sgh-e700 $100usd
Samsung sgh-e715 $110usd
Samsung sgh-p100 $100usd
Samsung sgh-p400 $95usd
Samsung sgh-p408 $130usd
Samsung sgh-p730 $100usd
Samsung sgh-s200 $90usd
Samsung sgh-s300 $70usd
Samsung sgh-s300m $100usd
Samsung sgh-s500 100usd
Samsung sgh-v200 110usd
Samsung sgh-x400 100usd
Samsung sgh-x430 100usd
Samsung sgh-x600 100usd
Samsung x450 100usd
Samsung SCH-i730 $100usd
Samsung SPH-i500 $100usd
Samsung p777 $100usd
Samsung SPH-i330 $115usd
Samsung SCH-A890 . $110usd
Sony ericsson
Sony ericsson k500i 100usd
Sony Ericsson p800 160usd
Sony Ericsson p900 150usd
Sony Ericsson p910 100usd
Sony Ericsson t230 80usd
Sony Ericsson t310 80usd
Sony Ericsson t610 100usd
Sony Ericsson z1010 340usd
Sony Ericsson z600 100usd
Sony ericssson t630 100usd
Sony Ericsson s700i 100usd
Sony Ericsson s750i 150usd
Sony Ericsson W800i $165usd
Motorola
Motorola a388c 130usd
Motorola a760 .150usd
Motorola a768 120usd
Motorola a768i 150usd
Motorola a780 200usd
Motorola c550 90usd
Motorola c650 100usd
Motorola e365 100usd
Motorola e398 100usd
Motorola i860 $100usd
Motorola Mpx 300 $100usd
Motorola Mpx 220 $140usd
Motorola V6 $180usd
Motorola e680 340usd
Motorola razor v3 100usd
Motorola v220 120usd
Motorola v303 100usd
Motorola v400 100usd
Motorola v500 100usd
Motorola v501 100usd
Motorola v525 100usd
Motorola v600 (oem) w/ Bluetooth headset 160usd
Motorola v600 oem 150usd
Motorola v690 120usd
Motorola v750 130usd
Motorola v80 150usd
Motorola v80 with Bluetooth 160usd
Motorola v872 1500usd
Motorola v878 130usd
Motorola v300 100usd
Nextel
Nextel 6510TM– US$110
Nextel i730– US$85
Nextel i733– US$95
Nextel i736– US$100
Nextel i830– US$110
Nextel i860– US$120
Nextel i930– US$130
PDA’s
HP IPaq Pocket PC H4150 ========= $140
Asus MyPal A716 ================= $135
HP IPaq Pocket PC H4350 ========= $140
Toshiba Pocket PC E405 ========== $100
Sony Clie PEG-TH55 ============== $120
Toshiba Pocket PC E800 ========== $150
PalmOne Zire 72================== $100
PalmOne Tungsten E ============== $70
PalmOne Tungsten C ============== $120
PalmOne Zire 31 ================= $50
palm Treo 650=====================$180
play station 1……… $120
play station 2 ….$130
play station 3…..$150
x_box 360………$200
GARMIN 396……..$150
Game boy latext edition……$110
this games are brand new sealed in black company Box.
Apple 20 GB iPod …………………….45 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Pink M9435LL/A ……40 USD
Apple 40 GB iPod photo………………..40 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Silver M9160LL/A ….40 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A……….60 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod photo ……………….55 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A……….50 USD
Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player……40 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A…….45 USD
Apple 2 GB iPod Nano………………….50 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Nano………………….60 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Vidoe……………….110 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Vidoe……………….150 USD
SIDEKICK
Sidekick II Cell Phone for 120usd
T-Mobile Sidekick 2 NOW with Service for 100usd
T-Mobile To Go Prepaid Sidekick II for 100usd
Sidekick II for T-Mobile with new service Plan 130usd
T-Mobile Sidekick II T-Mobile Replacement Phone for 110 usd
1996 Transfer Case: Sidekick 1996, and 1997 automatic….$100 usd
Sidekick Basic Kit…………………………………$100 usd
Sidekick II T-Mobile Cell Phone with Color Screen……..$100 usd
T-Mobile Sidekick 2 Danger Cell Phone………………..$100 usd
T-Mobile Sidekick II TMO to Go Prepaid Phone………….$100 usd
Mobile Sidekick II…………………………………$110 usd
ProTop 2 Piece Hardtop Suzuki Vitara / Chevy Tracker…..$100 usd
Protop 2 Piece Hardtop for Sidekick / Tracker ………..$100 usd
Original Extended Carbox Package 1989-1998……………$100 usd
Original Extended Carbox Sidekick/Tracker 2 &…………$100 usd
T-Mobile Sidekick 2 Danger Cell Phone………………..$100 usd
SIDEKICK 3 for just……………………………… $120 usd
AND MANY MORE OF CHOICES……………………………
Email:nicobash2004@hotmail.com
Email:nicobash2004@yahoo.com
HERE IS OUR CONTACT MOBILE NUMBER +2348066359044 YOU FREE TO CALL ON US FOR MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT YOU NEED TO ORDER FROM OUR COMPANY.
THANKS,
REGARDS.
NICO BASH.
BUY NEW MOBILES PHONES, APPLE IPODS AND LAPTOP,XBOX PREMIUM, UNLOCKED AT CHEAP PRICE,WITH COMPLETE ACCESSORIES AND 1 YEAR INTERNATIONAL WARRANTY
CONTACT US VIA….emadphonesdepot@hotmail.com
Nokia N93……..$250USD
Nokia N92…….$200USD
Nokia 7360…….$165USD
Nokia 7380……..$175USD
Nokia 7370……..$170USD
Nokia N91…….$180USD
Nokia N90…….$170USD
Nokia N70…….$150USD
Nokia N71…….$155USD
Nokia 8800……$140USD
Nokia N80…….$160USD
Nokia 7710…….$145USD
Nokia 7610…….$120usd
Nokia 9300……$145USD
Nokia 9500……$170USD
Nextel i930………$130usd
Nextel i870………$120usd
Nextel i860………$110usd
Sony Ericsson p990i….$145usd
Sony Ericsson m600i…..$175usd
sony Ericsson m600…..$170usd
Sony Ericsson p990…..$140usd
Sony Ericsson p910i….$125usd
Sony Ericsson w900i….$140usd
Sony Ericsson W800i….$135usd
sony Ericsson w700…..$130usd
sony Ericsson w600i….$125usd
sony Ericsson w300…..$120usd
sony Ericsson w950…..$160usd
Treo 700……………$200usd
Treo 600……………$150usd
Treo 650……………$160usd
Samsung D800……….$210USD
Samsung D820……….$220USD
Samsung D500………$160usd
Samsung d600………$170usd
SIDEKICK 2……….$120USD
SIDEKICK 3……….$200USD
I-MATE JASJER…….$260USD
XBOX360………..$135USD
IP0D GB 60 VIDEO…………..$130USD
ipod 30gb ……………$90usd
Mitac MIO 8930……$280usd
Motorola razor v3………$130usd
Motorola razor v3 pink edition….$130usd
Motorola v3X……………….$140usd
Motorola MPX300.,…$150usd
Motorola V3i……….$150usd
Motorola L7……….$140USD
plasma sony 32”……….$400usd
CONTACT US VIA……….emadphonesdepot@hotmail.com
August 10th, 2006 at 11:04 amRAYMOND BEN TECHNOLOGY
ADDRESS:- 70 AIRPORT RD
PHONE/N:-+2348054184131
EMAIL ADDRESS:-ray_bentechs@yahoo.co.uk
ray_bentechs@hotmail.com
ray_bentechs@inmail24.com
Dear Sir/Ma,
THIS IS ARE FULL DISCREPTION ABOUT THE ORDER ANE PRICE LIST OF THE CURRENT PRODUCT IN STORE
We are mobile phones wholesalers.We deals on all brands and models of mobile phones such as Nokia,Motorola,Samsung,Sony Ericsson,Sagem, Nextel,Sidekick II,Sprint,Ipods,television,W/xbox 360,dvd, Laptops, Mp3 players and many more at very cheap prices.We are using this medium to look for buyers of mobile phones.Do kindly reply back if you are interested and as you do you will be glad you do, you can reach us through our email address: ray_bentechs@yahoo.co.uk and ray_bentechs@hotmail.com thank’s and God bless.
PRESIDENT:-RAYMOND BEN
Here are thePrice list for different products;
Nokia Prices List.
Nokia 3650– US$185
Nokia 3660– US$195
Nokia 5100– US$65
Nokia 5140– US$110
Nokia 5510– US$105
Nokia 6020– US$130
Nokia 6670– US$105
Nokia 6630– US$175
Nokia 6100– US$80
Nokia 6108– US$90
Nokia 6220– US$105
Nokia 6230– US$110
Nokia 6260– US$135
Nokia 6310– US$69
Nokia 6310i– US$70
Nokia 6600– US$135
Nokia 6630– US$175
Nokia 6170– US$145
Nokia 6800– US$105
Nokia 6820– US$110
Nokia 7200– US$185
Nokia 7210 Turquoise– US$100
Nokia 7230– US$120
Nokia 7250– US$125
Nokia 7250i– US$120
Nokia 7260– US$135
Nokia 7280– US$155
Nokia 7600– US$165
Nokia 7610– US$195
Nokia 7650– US$160
Nokia 8250– US$65
Nokia 8310– US$90
Nokia 8910 Titanium– US$160
Nokia 8910 Black– US$165
Nokia 8910i– US$185
Nokia 8890– US$115
Nokia 8850 Special Edition– US$105
Nokia 8850 Gold Edition– US$110
Nokia 8800 ———— US$190
Nokia 6680……US $220
Nokia 6681……US $220
Nokia N90……US $170
Nokia N91……US $175
Nokia N92……us $180
Nokia N93……Us $210
Nokia N70……US $165
nokia n80…….$200
Nokia 6060……US $130
Nokia 6111……US $160
Nokia 8855– US$100
Nokia 9210 Communicator– US$195
Nokia N-Gage– US$110
Nokia 9500 (communicator)– US$180
Samsung Prices List
Samsung SGH E400– US$125
Samsung SGH E600– US$129
Samsung SGH E700– US$130
Samsung SGH E715– US$155
Samsung SGH-E810– US$140
Samsung SGH-E820– US$150
Samsung SGH-E800– US$155
Samsung SGH-E850– US$140
Samsung SGH D410– US$150
Samsung SGH D500– US$155
Samsung SGH P400– US$135
Samsung SGH P510– US$139
Samsung SGH N188– US$110
Samsung SGH P400– US$140
Samsung SGH P410– US$145
Samsung SGH P500– US$155
Samsung SGH S200– US$100
Samsung SGH S300– US$105
Samsung SGH S307– US$130
Samsung SGH S500– US$109
Samsung SGH T100– US$100
Samsung SGH T200– US$125
Samsung SGH V200– US$105
Samsung SGH VM680– US$100
Samsung SGH X400– US$105
Samsung SGH X410– US$130
Samsung SGH X426– US$129
Samsung SGH-C200– US$125
Samsung SGH-X460– US$140
Samsung SGH-X450– US$130
Samsung SGH X600– US$145
Samsung SGH-X610– US$140
Samsung SGH-Z105– US$120
samsung d500…….$210
saNokia N93……Us $210msung d600…….$230
samsung d800…….$245
Sony Ericssion Prices List
Sony Ericsson P800– US$155
Sony Ericsson P900– US$205
Sony Ericsson P910i– US$210
Sony Ericsson T610– US$130
Sony Ericsson T630– US$135
Sony Ericsson T68i– US$105
Sony Ericsson T68m– US$110
Sony Ericsson Z200– US$100
Sony Ericsson Z600– US$170
Sony Ericsson R520m– US$100
Sony Ericsson R380s– US$105
Sony Ericsson S700– US$175
Sony Ericsson K500i– US$180
Sony Ericsson K700i– US$189
Sony Ericsson K750i– US$200
Sony Ericsson P800– US$155
Sony Ericsson P900– US$205
Sony Ericsson P910i– US$210
Sony Ericsson T20e– US$35
Sony Ericsson T20s– US$39
Sony Ericsson T28s– US$39
Sony Ericsson T28 World– US$45
Sony Ericsson T29s– US$49
Sony Ericsson T100– US$30
Sony Ericsson T105– US$35
Sony Ericsson T200– US$45
Sony Ericsson T230– US$55
Sony Ericsson T300– US$55
Sony Ericsson T310– US$50
Sony Ericsson T600– US$69
Sony Ericsson T610– US$130
Sony Ericsson T630– US$135
Sony Ericsson T68i– US$105
Sony Ericsson T68m– US$110
Sony Ericsson Z200– US$100
Sony Ericsson Z600– US$170
Sony Ericsson R520m– US$100
Sony Ericsson R380 World– US$90
Sony Ericsson R380s– US$105
Sony Ericsson S700– US$175
Sony Ericsson K500i– US$180
Sony Ericsson K700i– US$189
Sony Ericsson K750i– US$200
Sony Ericsson w800……us$220
Sony Ericsson w800i…..Us$230
Sony Ericsson w900…….Us$240
Sony Ericsson W600i……..$210
Sony! Ericsson V600i…$200usd
O2 3G Datacard………$127usd
Orange Blackberry……$200usd
Orange 3G Datacard…..$165usd
Orange SPV C500……..$145usd
Orange SPV M2000…….$134usd
Motorola Prices List
Motorola razor V3……..$145
Motorola razor V3i…….$150
Motorola A008– US$50
Motorola A388– US$70
Motorola A388c– US$120
Motorola A820– US$65
Motorola C330– US$20
Motorola C331– US$25
Motorola C332– US$30
Motorola C333– US$35
Motorola C350– US$69
Motorola E360– US$60
Motorola E365– US$110
Motorola E380– US$95
Motorola E398– US$125
Motorola MPX200– US$180
Motorola V3Razor– US$145
Motorola V60i– US$75
Motorola V70– US$105
Motorola V80– US$115
Motorola V750– US$125
Motorola V525– US$139
Motorola V300– US$130
Motorola V400– US$125
Motorola V500– US$130
Motorola V600– US$140
Nextel Prices List
Nextel i55sr………US$65
Nextel i2000plus……. US$35
Nextel i58sr……….. US$30
Nextel i530……..US$35
Nextel i205……… US$20
Nextel i305……. US$25
Nextel i35s………US$29
Nextel i88………..US$30
Nextel i90….. US$59
Nextel i95cl………. US$70
Nextel i60c– US$40
Nextel 6510TM…… US$110
Nextel i730– US$85
Nextel i733– US$95
Nextel i736– US$105
Nextel i830– US$115
Nextel i860– US$125
Nextel i930– US$140
Eten m500——us$220
Eten m600——-Us$250
TOM TOM
Tom Tom Go for $180usd
Tom Tom Portable Nav Preloaded Map USA/C for $150usd
Tom Tom GO 510 Vehicle GPS Navigation (510) for $160usd
Tom Tom Go 700 In Vehicle Navigation System for $190usd
Tom Tom 1D00780 GO 700 Portable Vehicle Navigation GPS for $180usd
Sidekick Prices List
sidekick 111…………..$150
Sidekick II ………….$120
sidekick 1…………..$70
APPLE IPOD
Apple iPod nano 4GB:$55
Apple iPod nano 2GB:$45
Apple 30 GB Video iPod:$90
Apple 60 GB Video iPod:$100
Apple 20 GB iPod : $65
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini:$60.00USD
Apple 6 GB iPod Mini:$65.00USD
Apple 40 GB iPod photo:$70.00USD
Apple 60 GB iPod photo:$95.00USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo:$85.00
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DIGITALTECHNOLOGIESPALACE ELERTONICS LIMITED
LETTER OF BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP .
We are mobile phones wholesalers.We deals on
all brands and models of mobile phones such as
Nokia,Motorola,Samsung,Sony Ericsson,Sagem,
Nextel,Sidekick II,Sprint,Ipods, Laptops, Mp3
players and many more at very cheap prices.We
are using this medium to look for buyers of
mobile phones.Do kindly reply back if you are
interested and as you do you will be glad you
do.
  you can reach us through our email address
   digitaltechnologiespalace@hotmail.com
 digitaltechnologiespalace@yahoo.co.uk
WE ARE SELLING ALL KIND OF MOBILE PHONES SUCH
AS:
               Digital camera
Acer cs-5530 digital camera………………..$150
Canon ixus 700 digital camera………………$200
Canon ixus 750 digital camera………………$160
Canon ixus i zoom digital camera (jet black)…$210
Canon ixus i zoom digital camera (Sahara)……$200
Canon power shot s80 digital camera…………$220
Casio exilim ex-s500 digital camera (orange, ).$230
Digital blue qx5 digital microscope…………$170
Fuji film finepix f10 digital camera………..$150
Nikon d2x digital camera (body only)………..$140
Olympus fe-100 digital camera………………$150
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       QTEK
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Qtek s200 =$100Â Â
Qtek 9000 =$130
Qtek 8310 =$200
Qtek 8300 =$210Â Â
Qtek 9100 =$240
Qtek 8100 =$250Â
Qtek s110 =$210
Qtek s100 =$200
Qtek 9090 =$210
Qtek 8020 =$200Â Â
Qtek 8010 =$180Â Â
Qtek 2020i=$240Â Â Â
Qtek 2020 =$250Â
Qtek 8080 =$130
Qtek 8060 =$160Â
Qtek 1010 =$150Â
Qtek 7070 =$250
                          DVD Â
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Panasonic DVD-LS5 DVD Player…$150USDÂ Â
Mintek MDP-5860 DVD Player…..$90USD
Panasonic DMR-E50S DVD Recorder…$190USDÂ Â
Samsung DVD-L200 DVD Player….. $150USDÂ
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                   GAME   Â
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W/xbox 360 hard drive,
Xbox 360 wireless controller,
Xbox 360 faceplate,
Xbox 360 headset, Â
Xbox 360 component hd-av cable,Â
Xbox live silver membership Â
(#xbox360pla) $260 per-unit buy 3 and take one freeÂ
play station 1… $120Â Â
play station 2 …$130Â Â
play station 3…$150Â Â
x_box 360….$200Â Â Â
GARMIN 396…$150Â
Game boy latext edition……$110Â Â Â
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                PDAÂ
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Palm Zire 72 PDA-$100usdÂ
Sony PEG-SJ33 Color CLIÉ Handheld PDA-$120usdÂ
Sony CLIÉ PEG-UX50 PDA-$150usd
HP iPAQ Pocket PC hx4705 PDA-$160usdÂ
Palm Tungsten E PDA-$60usd Â
Palm Tungsten T5 PDA-$80usd
Palm LifeDrive Mobile Manager PDA-$100usd
HP iPAQ Pocket PC HX4700 PD-$200usd  Â
Sharp Mobilon HC-4100 PDA-$100usd  Â
o2 XDAII MINI integrated Pocket PC & GSM phone-$300usd Â
o2 XDAIIS integrated pocket PC & GSM Phone-$330usd
HP Ipaq HX4700 Pocket PC -$200usdÂ
HP Ipaq HX2700 Pocket PC ……………………………….$300usd
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                     IPOD
 20GB iPod 20GB iPod ………………………..$55usd
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Pink M9435LL/A ………….$50usd
Apple 40 GB iPod photo………………………$45usd
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Silver M9160LL/A ………..$45usd
Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A……………..$70usd
Apple 60 GB iPod photo ……………………..$60usd
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A……………..$55usd
Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player………….$40usd
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A…………..$45usd
Apple 2 GB iPod Nano………………………..$50usd
Apple 4 GB iPod Nano………………………..$60usd
Apple 30 GB iPod Vidoe………………………$90usd
Apple 60 GB iPod Vidoe………………………$120usd
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                          Laptop
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laptops Toshiba Satellite A75-S229 Laptop Computer—$200
Toshiba Satellite M45-S311 Laptop Computer—$390
Toshiba Satellite R15-S822 Laptop Computer—$600
Toshiba Qosmio G15-AV501 Laptop Computer—$1000
Toshiba Satellite A65-S126 Laptop Computer—$200
Toshiba Satellite P25-S526 Laptop Computer—$1000
Toshiba Satellite A45-S120 Laptop Computer—$300
Toshiba Satellite M35X-S149 Laptop Computer—$400
Toshiba Qosmio E15-AV101 Laptop Computer—$900
Toshiba Satellite P35-S609 Laptop Computer—$850
Toshiba Qosmio F15-AV201 Laptop Computer—-$650
Toshiba Portege M200 Laptop Computer——$500
Pentium 4—$450.etcÂ
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               NOKIAÂ
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NOKIA 6230Â for……..$130usd
NOKIA 6230i for……..$140usd
NOKIA 6260Â For……..$130usd
NOKIA 9300Â For……..$130usd
NOKIA 9500Â For……..$140usd
NOKIA 6230Â for……..$130usd
NOKIA 8800Â For……..$150usd
NOKIA 6680Â For……..$110usd
NOKIA 6682Â For……..$120usd
NOKIA 7650Â For……..$130usd
NOKIA E61Â Â for………$155usd
NOKIA E60Â Â for………$150usd
NOKIA E70Â Â for………$160usd
NOKIA N70Â Â For………$160usd
NOKIA N80Â Â For………$170usd
NOKIA N90Â Â For………$180usd
NOKIA N91Â Â For………$190usd
NOKIA N92Â Â For………$200usd
NOKIA N93Â Â FOR………$250usd
               MOTOROLA
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MOTOROLA RAZOR V3 for……..$130usd
MOTOROLA RAZOR V6 FOR……..$140usd
MOTOROLA SLVRÂ L7 For……..$140usd
MOTOROLA SLVRÂ V8 For……..$140usd
MOTOROLA A1000 For………..$150usd
MOTOROLA MPX 220 For…….. $120usd
MOTOROLA MPX 300 For…….. $140usd
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           SONY ERICSSON
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SONY ERICSSON K700i For……$130usd
SONY ERICSSON k750i For……$140usd
SONY ERICSSON W800i For……$150usd
SONY ERICSSON W900i For……$160usd
SONY ERICSSON S700i For…R