Senate Goes Into Secret Closed Session
Senate Goes Into Secret Closed Session
In a speech on the Senate floor, Democratic leader Harry Reid said the American people and U.S. troops deserved to know the details of how the United States became engaged in the war, particularly in light of the indictment of I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney’s chief of staff.
Statements from Reid demanded the Senate go into closed session. With a second by Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., the public was ordered out of the chamber, the lights were dimmed, senators filed to their seats on the floor and the doors were closed.
For more on closed sessions, check out this CRS report.
UPDATE: Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS) says the closed Senate session is “some sort of stink about Scooter Libby and the CIA leak.”
UPDATE 2: Statement of Sen. Jay Rockefeller on the closed session.
UPDATE 3: Statement of Sen. Harry Reid on the closed session.
UPDATE 4: Majority Leader Frist reacts: “They have no conviction. They have no principles. They have no ideas. But this is the ultimate. Since I’ve been majority leader…have ever I been slapped in the face with such an affront to the leadership of this grand institution.”
UPDATE 5: From Hotline: “Sen. Reid and Sen. Jay Rockefeller decided on today’s tactic after reading Murray Waas’s account on NationalJournal.com of how senior members of Vice President Cheney’s staff, including Scooter Libby, may have intentionally withheld crucial documents from the Senate staff.”
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Outstanding!
November 1st, 2005 at 3:30 pmThis is excellent. It is about time we got down to business. Let the light be shown on the truth.
November 1st, 2005 at 3:33 pmWhat? They turned the lights out in a room filled with politicians and interns? Are they insane? You know what happened last time.....!
November 1st, 2005 at 3:33 pmTurk is praying for the interns....
It is about time that the Dems stands up to the REPUBLICANS.
November 1st, 2005 at 3:34 pmYes. We can't get distracted by other events, we have to keep pounding at this administration untill we know everything that happened before we went into Iraq.
November 1st, 2005 at 3:35 pmMy boy Levine is ready to kick ass and take names!
November 1st, 2005 at 3:36 pmKind of amazing watching Chris Matthews grow a set on MSNBC right now- He's calling out the Dems case; the first time I've seen MSM really begin to take the GOP to task on the WMD / Plame leak.
Even though he's calling the Dems clumsy & indecisive, both of which have been largely true of late.
November 1st, 2005 at 3:37 pmThis is why Harry Reid forced the Senate into a closed session.
Republican Chairman Pat Roberts on the Phase 2 Report on possible Bush White House manipulation of Iraq WMD intelligence:
- "I don't think there should be any doubt that we have now heard it all regarding prewar intelligence. I think that it would be a monumental waste of time to replow this ground any further." (March 31, 2005)
- "To go though that exercise, it seems to me, in a post-election environment--we didn't see how we could do that and achieve any possible progress. I think everybody pretty well gets it." (March 31, 2005)
- "[Phase 2] is basically on the back burner." (March 10, 2005)
For the full story, see:
"Fitzgerald, Iraq and the Truth About Pre-War Intelligence."
November 1st, 2005 at 3:40 pmBE u TI full! watch the cockroaches scramble when the light is turned on. I'm getting on my pointy roach killer shoes so I can get 'em in the corners.
November 1st, 2005 at 3:41 pmIt's time the Dems focused on the big picture. . . which is the phony run up to the war on Iraq. The repub control of congress has given bushco a pass on it because they know it's a dangerous issue to open up to a complete investigation. If they can keep the focus on the cost in dollars, lives and this mis-administration's promotion of the war for the profit of it's friends, Americans will soon demand more information. This will be the major issue in the 2006 elections. Bushco cannot allow Dems to regain control of congress. Expect Bushco and his stealing pals to launch an all out attack on Dems, which will be more lie filled than 2004.
November 1st, 2005 at 3:45 pmThis is bigger than it appears. The ripple effect will have the Bushies enraged and the rightwing propaganda machine spinning itself into the ground.
The Dems (Harry Reid surprises me at times) have thrown down the gauntlet in deciding that they are going to fight to uncover the lies used to take us to war. They have no choice now but to go all the way with this. No small matter.
THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE ALL BEEN WAIING FOR!!!!!!
November 1st, 2005 at 3:47 pmChris Matthews = neocon apologist
November 1st, 2005 at 3:48 pmThis is excellent. It is about time we got down to business. Let the light be shown on the truth.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
The doors are closed and the lights are dimmed dumbass. The Donk Traitors don't want you to know what is gong on. I say we call Bill Clinton and ask him why he said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
November 1st, 2005 at 3:48 pmI think what the dems are forgetting is that everyone saw the same intelligence and voted for the war. There is also the British and Australian evidence as well. That stroke must have affected Reid more than we thought. It appears he has developed some sort of amnesia here.
November 1st, 2005 at 3:49 pmTHIS IS WHAT WE HAVE ALL BEEN WAIING FOR!!!!!!
Comment by Jay
Too funny. The Donks are going to have their asses handed to them.
November 1st, 2005 at 3:49 pmI wish that the Democrats had done this two years earlier when Georgie JR. and Dickless (Lon) Cheney
November 1st, 2005 at 3:51 pmdeclared that a country that had never threatened nor
bombed the US was worth dominating.
Bill Clinton has nothing to do with this. The serious intelligence gathering to make the case for war on Iraq happened after 9/11. All of the evidence that was compiled was in the hands of THIS ADMINISTRATION. When the evidence is finally uncovered, your boys are f%^&*, and that is good for America.
November 1st, 2005 at 3:51 pmBetween this stunt and the filibuster of the President's pick for SC I see the idiots in the Donk party losing two or three more Senate seats and who knows how may congressmen and gubernatorial elections. This is almost too good to be true. Total meltdown of the Traitor Party.
November 1st, 2005 at 3:52 pmThe same manipulated intelligence. You can't be serious #14.
November 1st, 2005 at 3:53 pmThe serious intelligence gathering to make the case for war on Iraq happened after 9/11
Comment by jay
So, you're saying Clinton wasn't serious. I see.
November 1st, 2005 at 3:53 pmI-R-I,
You must be pissing your pants right now. The mutiny is under way. These guys have decided to fight to the death with the greatest weapon of all (and the one they've possessed all along).....THE TRUTH! They hemmed and hawwed to get there, but they've finally arrived.
November 1st, 2005 at 3:54 pmThis is great! eatshit pugs in your f'n mugs. FACIAL
November 1st, 2005 at 3:55 pm#20,
No I'm saying that Clinton wasn't hellbent on making a case for war in Iraq because he knew (as Powell and Condi said publicly AFTER his term) that Iraq was contained.
November 1st, 2005 at 3:55 pmCafferty on CNN was just awesome. The dems have made an incredible move to shift the debate.
November 1st, 2005 at 3:56 pmI-Wrong-I...you wanted Clintons ph.#?...here it is: 1-800-EAT SHI*
November 1st, 2005 at 3:56 pmPayback for all the "NO COMMENTS" and "ONGOING INVESTIGATION" bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ITS OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 1st, 2005 at 3:56 pmIrightI
is that the best you can do. Clinton knew. EVERYBODY
beleived there was. That is b.s.
MILLIONs world wide saw the scam, and please please
tell me what the office of special plans was about
you asswipe?
having said that,
November 1st, 2005 at 3:56 pmDems are not the majority, you are probably right this
may not got far - but that does not mean we do not
try. You would rather we roll over?
Thousands have lost their lives and for WHAT?
Jack Cafferty, on CNN, just tore the GOP spinners a new asshole on the need for truth and an investigation into whether Americans were lied to about Iraq.
WOW!
November 1st, 2005 at 3:56 pmSo if Clinton said something, it must be true? Is that what you're saying, I-WRONG-I?
November 1st, 2005 at 3:56 pmhere is the video of Powell and Rice making the claim that Iraq was NOT A THREAT in 2001:
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/powell-no-wmd.htm
I love video that shows that the Bushies are war criminals!!!!
November 1st, 2005 at 3:57 pmIRI wrote:
But not why he didn't invade Iraq?
November 1st, 2005 at 3:58 pmSo if Clinton said something, it must be true? Is that what you’re saying, I-WRONG-I?
Comment by Gary Kleppe
I have never known the man to lie about anything but sex and taking bribes from Red Chinese communists. If he said he thought Iraq was a major threat (and he did) then I see no reason to dump on Bush because he believed the same to be true.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:00 pmIT'S ON! "Dirty Harry" Reid is saying "No more Mr. Nice Guy" to those Repugs. Looks like the Dems finally grew a pair, about time!
November 1st, 2005 at 4:00 pm#32,
Sean Hannity, is that you??? Where do you find the time with all those radio and TV gigs?
I-R-I....you're such a twerp.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:01 pmmy biggest wish was that this debate was honestly done back in the ramp up to the war, many in the Senate now 'behind closed doors'. There are many Senators right now acting boldly...a few years too late.
rich
November 1st, 2005 at 4:01 pm"So, you’re saying Clinton wasn’t serious. I see.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I "
Ah, the Wizard of Oz Pedophile is here again. The strawman scarecrow is always the what OPUS penDEIjo brings to the party. Just because you make up an irrelevant argument about violence and WMDs, doesn't make you look smart, but it does remind everyone what a dangerous and psychotic freak you are.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:01 pmBut not why he didn’t invade Iraq?
Comment by Lesly
If he could have had a third term he'd have been in Iraq just as fast as Al Gore or John Kerry would have been had they been elected. You are harboring the illusion that Donks don't like war, they do.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:02 pmI-Wrong-I,
Only thing is Clinton didn't actually send troops into Iraq...and good thing, considering Iraq wasn't a threat. So what does that say about Bushie?
November 1st, 2005 at 4:02 pm#35 Rich,
You're right, but we can't change what's been done, we can only influence what comes next. This is a solid step toward stopping the madness that is Bushism.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:03 pmYes, Mr. Lott, 2000+ corpses piled up sure does make a stink...
November 1st, 2005 at 4:03 pmMizzWrong,
Would that be the same Red Chinese that the Republican Walmart Walton family contributors to every Reichwing organization constantly protect? Yeah, that's them...
You and your entire party are such hypocritical fools - but I already clearly established that. So why are you back for your continued embarrasment freak girl?
November 1st, 2005 at 4:03 pmbut it does remind everyone what a dangerous and psychotic freak you are.
Comment by Ryan "Where's the Beef" Neat
Hi Ryan. How's that new rub on AIDS cream working out for you?
November 1st, 2005 at 4:03 pmPhase II Now! Could this finally be turning?
November 1st, 2005 at 4:03 pmUnbelievable. The indignant Pugs act like they have been accused of something, when we are at the first stages of DISCUSSION for a real investigation into prewar intel. MAN, are they hiding shit or what?
November 1st, 2005 at 4:04 pmGIVE EM' HELL HARRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELLLLLLLLLLLL FU******IN' YEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HEY REPUG CHRIST KILLERS..........KISS OUR F********IN ASSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 1st, 2005 at 4:04 pmI love the smell of 'whinning trolls' in the afternoon..ahhhhhh
November 1st, 2005 at 4:04 pmWAR!
Hi Ryan. How’s that new rub on AIDS cream working out for you?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I
Fatwah issued on IRI.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:05 pm"If he could have had a third term he’d have been in Iraq just as fast as Al Gore or John Kerry would have been had they been elected."MizzWrong
Did you get that from your crystal ball gypsie queen, or from your disco ball?
Actually Clinton showed in Kosovo that not only could he distinguish between a necessary and unnecessary military action - but he also demostrated he could engage it such a way as to secure the peace. Unfortunately republicans fail 100% of the time militarily. Even Afghanistan is falling back into chaos thanks to republican mismanagement. You guys Enron everything you touch!
November 1st, 2005 at 4:05 pmThey're going to shut it down every day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 1st, 2005 at 4:06 pmIWRONGi
no comment about Office of Special Plans,
lets not talk about that huh?
you asshats on the right always ignore that.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:06 pm"Hi Ryan. How’s that new rub on AIDS cream working out for you?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I"
You really shouldn't project your health and sexual confusion issues on others. You have enough psychotic pathology to cope with without further denials...
November 1st, 2005 at 4:06 pmMizzWrong has already been pegged as an Opus Dei catholic closeted gay man with pedophilic tendencies produced from his childhood molestation. He deserves our pity for his confused sexuality and moral depravity. Poor thing just isn't well... She's probably wearing her judy garland pumps right now while reading her bible.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:07 pmI-Wrong-I,
Only thing is Clinton didn’t actually send troops into Iraq…and good thing, considering Iraq wasn’t a threat. So what does that say about Bushie?
Comment by Jeremy
Clinton didn't do anything because he didn't have 9-11 to deal with not because Iraq wasn't a threat. Or maybe he was just preoccupied building his semen stained legacy.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:08 pmClinton knew Iraq wasn't a serious threat to our security, Al Qaida/OBL was our number 1 threat, not Iraq. Iraq was marginalized.
The Bushies were the one's running around like chicken littles talking about Mushroom Clouds, nobody else.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:08 pmlet's call this a Democratic version of the nuke-u-ler option... I hope we launch a few more salvos before all's said and done...
November 1st, 2005 at 4:09 pmToo funny. The Donks are going to have their asses handed to them.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — November 1, 2005 @ 3:49 pm
What an infidel! The majority of the American people are suffering from buyers' remorse. Even Pat Buchanan just issued a Fatwah against you, IRI. Against you, personally.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:09 pmGOOD. Please continue to look like the hateful fools you are.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:10 pm"Clinton didn’t do anything because he didn’t have 9-11 to deal with not because Iraq wasn’t a threat."
Woah woah woah, idiot alert here. Ok...new nick name for you, I-idiot-I.
Fits nicely.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:10 pmMizzWrong is constantly posting references that are clearly obscure and gay that I don't even have a clue what she's talking about half the time. I go look them up and wonder why someone who 'claims' to be straight would know these things. And then I remember that there's an 80% correlation between homophobia and closeted gay men. And the other ~20% correlates to closeted pedophiles. And based on her obsession with pedophelia, gender and gay things, she's clearly confused about everything including her sexual identity. It must really suck being a reichwinger with so much pathology to hate about one's self.
Republicans are often mentally disturbed from their self hate, but MizzWrong is 'special' in her particular psychosis.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:11 pmI would like Bush biographer Mickey Herskowitz to be a witness in this Congressional investigaton.
Here is what Herskowitz had to say about Bush's ambitions concerning invading Iraq:
"He was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999," said author and journalist Mickey Herskowitz. "It was on his mind. He said to me: 'One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.' And he said, 'My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it.' He said, 'If I have a chance to invade·.if I had that much capital, I'm not going to waste it. I'm going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I'm going to have a successful presidency." Herskowitz said that Bush expressed frustration at a lifetime as an underachiever in the shadow of an accomplished father. In aggressive military action, he saw the opportunity to emerge from his father's shadow. The moment, Herskowitz said, came in the wake of the September 11 attacks. "Suddenly, he's at 91 percent in the polls, and he'd barely crawled out of the bunker."
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1028-01.htm
November 1st, 2005 at 4:11 pmYou really shouldn’t project your health and sexual confusion issues on others. You have enough psychotic pathology to cope with without further denials…
Comment by Ryan "Don't Put It There!" Neat
Why are you tryng to get back in the closet at this late date Ryan? I thought you were comfortable with your sexual identity?
November 1st, 2005 at 4:12 pmOnce the Dems start speaking out on prewar intel. the population will quickly make this an unpopular war Vietnam style. NOT winnable in Iraq, nor at home. Bring them home.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:12 pmIRI wrote:
I wonder if there'd been any 911 to deal with if BushCo didn't put loyalty above institutional know-how and fire or pressure dissenters into retiring.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:12 pm"GOOD. Please continue to look like the hateful fools you are.
Comment by The Northeast Dilemma "
hehe, projection is your favorite activity isn't it hateful fool. After all, aren't you the one that hates liberals so much you come to liberal sites to post hate? This is the site where we are supposed to be able to discuss issues from a liberal perspective - yet crazy hate filled bigots like you come here to spray propaganda.
You're a fool, a moron, an idiot, and a hypocrite!
November 1st, 2005 at 4:13 pmOFFICE OF SPECIAL PLANS -
November 1st, 2005 at 4:13 pmSTOVEPIPING - CHERRY PICKING
how about your NED - care to explain?
IrightI has no balls.
I see NED is using the handy alternate I-wrong-I handle, and switching to the others to make it look as is there is more than ONE moron on their side.
Don't feed the trolls.
Just keep discussing and ignoring it/he/she/it.
GO DEMS!
It is only a matter of time before this
corrupt wh and it uninvited unelected cockroach invaders are going to be found guilty of
Hi Treason and War Crimes!
I guess someone in the cleaning crew sprayed RAID around the wh and the cockroaches are turning tits up in their $2500 suits.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:14 pmYou gotta HATE! HATE! HATE! the shrub
November 1st, 2005 at 4:14 pm"Why are you tryng to get back in the closet at this late date Ryan? I thought you were comfortable with your sexual identity?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I"
I don't have sexual identity issues, but clearly you do. See the great thing about being a liberal is that we're free to express our identity whatever that is. So if we have 'gender' issues, we're allowed to explore them. Freaks like you however often become psychotic because of your self hate. It's why you often become terrorists like the 9/11 folks. Self hate makes people often become suicidal and violent.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:14 pmThe fact is that CONservatives fabricated evidence and went to war based on a lie.
Thousands are dead, 10s of thousands are wounded based on NeoCon fantasies.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:15 pmWhat an infidel! The majority of the American people are suffering from buyers’ remorse. Even Pat Buchanan just issued a Fatwah against you, IRI. Against you, personally.
Comment by Abort a FReepus 4 Jeebus
I know that's false. I do believe though that the majority of people who come here to Think Communist are suffering from BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) It's just unfortunate that more of you don't take the easy way out and move to Kanaduh.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:16 pmFatwah issued against IRI and all conservatives!
Holy War! Jihad! Armageddon!
How do you like the rhetoric, IRI? Does it give you a woody?
November 1st, 2005 at 4:16 pmHell yess!
November 1st, 2005 at 4:16 pmNo, Pat Buchanan just "endorsed" the move.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:16 pmOnce again,
The fact is that CONservatives fabricated evidence and went to war based on a lie.
Thousands are dead, 10s of thousands are wounded based on NeoCon fantasies.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:17 pmRyan, ned/iwrong is that common little disgusting social pariah that has to act out in order to feel better about themself.
You know the type, the loud drunk that just won't shut up. The ones that say things as people walk by, just loudly enough for the passer-by to hear because they are too afraid to confront that person.
The typical unkept, poorly educated slob that screams their ideas and basically feels inferior.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:17 pmsuffering from BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome)
So that's what Bush and you guys have? Is it contagious? Obviously not or we would all have it. Is it curable? I doubt it. Looks like we will have to put you out of our misery.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:19 pm"What does 'closed session' mean? Where's my Cap'n Crunch? MOM!!"-George W. Bush
November 1st, 2005 at 4:19 pmRyan,
With all due repsect (and you have mine for your knowledge) end the catfight and lets hammer away at the facts.
Peace!
November 1st, 2005 at 4:19 pmBush is busy talking about the washing and handling your bird today. Lsten up male Republicans.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:19 pmned/irong you have no power here. Be gone!
Chickenhawk coward.
dumbya is going down! Yippie yippie.
Bunker time dumya.... just like your grandpappy's idol!
November 1st, 2005 at 4:20 pmkjlovell,
It's typical of NeoCons I've met. They're inevitably stupid, nerdy, anti-social and irrational. They're clearly not living in a stable or sane place.
The trolls that come here just further demonstrate how 'hateful' and 'irrational' that republicans are. They think they're somehow doing their side a service, but they're so bad at it that it almost looks like a liberal posing as fringe republican. They're just Waco/RubyRidge/Whacko sounding.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:20 pmDelay gets a new judge!
November 1st, 2005 at 4:21 pmJeebus!
Don't watch MSGOP, but send them a torrent of nasty emails tellin them to stop reading the GOP talking points or you will watch CNN until Olbermann comes on.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:21 pmPresident is being told to vacate, resign, go away!
November 1st, 2005 at 4:21 pmAnother day of the trolls having a field day here at Think Progress.
It's kinda dull really. I have no interest in reading their complete & utter crap.
Too bad to cause I generally really like this site.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:22 pmJay,
Hehe, sure thing. I do like picking at the scab that is MizzWrong - she's just such a pathetic and easy mark. But I agree, it is a wasteful exercise. She's just too insane to hear anything as the months of her ranting has demonstrated.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:22 pmDeLay gets a new judge who will convict his ass just as fast.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:22 pmFrist: Whiiine with my cheese pleeeze!
November 1st, 2005 at 4:23 pmRyan, 100% correct
But I also think it is a troll and not trolls. I have noticed that when ned gets his balls busted, suddely iwrong or aphrodykie shows up. Or vice versa.
If it/he/she/it is feeling frisky, it posts almost sequentially.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:24 pmLet's not get too excited. This can all end with a simple majori
November 1st, 2005 at 4:25 pmkjlovell,
Most likely it's the pentagon task force. In particular anything unfriendly to the Iraq war is ferociously attacked on the site. There was a 'special propaganda taskforce' setup in the pentagon to go defend the war - most likely that's the origin of all of these 'fake' personas.
I've actually tripped up a couple of them over the past few months when I pushed on them about various topics, and they've given away points that make it clear they aren't who they say they are. Clearly there's propaganda afoot either by amateurs or professionals (who act like amateurs).
November 1st, 2005 at 4:27 pmListening to Cspan, whoa!
It is not looking good for the dumbya and crash-cart...
...corruption....cloud over congress.....unwillng to hold repug admin accountable.....illegal war.....no oversite hearings held....Iraq.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:27 pmTom Delay should be the least of your worries Ed. Like I said, the gauntlet has been thrown down. I'm sure these guys have considered the political calculus here (it wasn't difficult to figure) and they have decided that now is the time to make their move. It's bold but it steals the news cycle back and it plops the case for war right back in the face of the American people.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:28 pmHours after the 9/11 attacks planning to invade Iraq.....retrobution against anyone that gets in the administrations way.......consistantly and repeatedly manipulated the facts to go to war......vice pres said "iraq reconstitued it's nuculear programs".....sadam could soon attack america with nukes.....admin told that claims were false.....told that Al Queda no link to sadam.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:29 pmgotta go for now, having awake wet-dream.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:30 pmMost likely it’s the pentagon task force. In particular anything unfriendly to the Iraq war is ferociously attacked on the site. There was a ’special propaganda taskforce’ setup in the pentagon to go defend the war - most likely that’s the origin of all of these ‘fake’ personas.
I think if the Pentagon wanted to troll us, they'd be able to hire people who were actually competent at it.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:31 pmI am glad to see it but won't the republicans simply use 'national security' as a reason for everything they don't want to disclose?
November 1st, 2005 at 4:32 pmprison abuse scandal....cronism....political interest above people......disturbing pattern.....against challenging....attacked those that dare indicate what admin doesn't want to hear.lindsey fired when he told of true cost of war...un inspector hanz blitz blasted admin, he was pulled.
admin attempts to remove anyone that disputes their detractors....and
vicious and coordinated smear campaign.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:33 pmI remember the Robert's comments, Avenging Angel.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:33 pmThey were disgusting.
Secret news leaks from closed U.S. Senate session
WASHINGTON: Sources familiar with the proceedings of the closed U.S. Senate session reported the following progress during the session to date: Joe Biden - won ten Bingo games in a row. Hillary Clinton - still thinking about her third move
November 1st, 2005 at 4:34 pmRemember, the best thing that you can do to a bully is to punch him in the face as hard as you can. Bullies always back down when faced with the real thing.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:35 pmI think what the Democrats should do now is to ignore those self righteous criminals and their "the Democrats have highjacked the Senate" bullshit and forge ahead. The citizens of this country deserve nothing less than the truth. You remember the truth, right? It's been so long since we've heard it from this administration.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:36 pmGary,
Have you been watching Iraq lately? Did you notice they hired Karen Hughes to craft our image in the muslim world? I think your opinion of the competence of both the government and the pentagon are misplaced.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:37 pmHigh & Mighty Righty, whatever the hell I-Righty-I is supposed to mean...give up on the homo-speak Mary. You suck at it. I so wish I could round up my drag sisters and work yer sorry butt over with stilettos.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:40 pm#13
Me
"Let the light be shown on the truth."
Figure of speech.
You
"The doors are closed and the lights are dimmed dumbass."
Showing what a dumbass you are.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:42 pmThe only reason Reid is doing this is that Fitzgerald did not deliver. Dems thought that the lid would blow off when there really isn't one. This is just grandstanding, just ignore it.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:42 pmomg...I was just flipping from CNN to MSNBC (Fox is blocked, duh) and heard someone say, "They can talk about anything in there, right? Even things like impeachment?" I didn't catch who it was...wouldn't that be grand? IMPEACH NOW!
November 1st, 2005 at 4:42 pmHave you been watching Iraq lately? Did you notice they hired Karen Hughes to craft our image in the muslim world? I think your opinion of the competence of both the government and the pentagon are misplaced.
Well, there's incompetence, and there's incompetence. Hughes may be a fool, but she's not dumb enough to say something and then directly contradict herself a moment later (like Neddy). Neither is she enough of a vicious idiot to openly support things that no reasonable person would agree with, like restricting voting rights to property-owning males (like I-WRONG-I).
Besides, you're talking about higher-level political appointees, who might be hired through cronyism or a variety of other reasons. Anybody who gets sent here would be a lower-level operative.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:44 pmI just got home, so if someone has expressed similar comments, I apologize in advance.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:45 pmI have just written MSNBC to complain about Reporter O'Donnell, who characterized her own interpretation of the news of the day, calling it "bungling" and "impolite." After Cheney's swearing in the Senate and Sensenbrenner turning out the lights on Democrats, how dare she characterize this as impolite!
Now I am listening to Sen. Roberts and the Rethugs complain and whine about having been blindsided by the Dems. I say IT'S ABOUT GODDAM TIME!
Sen. Roberts has sat upon this investigation for many months, Rockefeller has been frustrated at every turn.
The reporters are miffed because they were kept hanging around the hallway for two hours -- poor babies.
Gary,
Actually Hughes did exactly that recently in the middle east. She claimed that Saddam had gassed 300,000 people. She's just as inept as NED is unfortunately.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:46 pmI want to have Harry's baby. Ohhh, jeebus.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:46 pmActually Hughes did exactly that recently in the middle east. She claimed that Saddam had gassed 300,000 people. She’s just as inept as NED is unfortunately.
Okay, I stand corrected. But her job is an impossible one anyway. There's just no way to make your country look good to a foreign people whom said country is busy bombing and torturing.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:48 pm#105 he's still working on it. Rove even acknowledged to his friends that he's not out of the woods yet.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/31/AR2005103101494.html?sub=AR
November 1st, 2005 at 4:48 pmFrist is outraged. Well I never! So funny.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:48 pmEd,
Actually, no, I won't ignore it. But thanks for your advice.
"States are not moral agents" - Chomsky
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#105 Check it out:
"Fitzgerald is taking a "big picture" approach to this case. This mirrors his approach to previous cases. In December 2003, for example, Fitzgerald announced the indictment of former Illinois Gov. George Ryan on corruption charges in Operation Safe Road, which began in 1998... Indictments were announced in stages, culminating in the indictment of Ryan, who was the 66th defendant in the case."
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20051028/what_to_expect_next.php
November 1st, 2005 at 4:55 pmThe funniest part is seeing Frist standing there stunned, like someone hit him over the head with a lead pipe. He called it a "Slap in the face." Damn straight, Dirty Harry bitch slapped you into next week, you Rethug.
November 1st, 2005 at 4:55 pmTruth is a Stunt to Frist and the pugs. Bizarro world.
November 1st, 2005 at 5:05 pmUm, did you just link us to a Fox news site?!? ACK!
November 1st, 2005 at 5:07 pmP.S.
Impeach! Remove! Jail!
That is all.
November 1st, 2005 at 5:08 pmGIVE 'EM HELL, HARRY!!!
It's about time! Let's go to the mattresses.
Frist is upset about the "slap in the face?" Give me a break. Let him turn around, and we'll slap the other side.
November 1st, 2005 at 5:09 pmFatwah!
November 1st, 2005 at 5:11 pmRyan,
With all due repsect (and you have mine for your knowledge) end the catfight and lets hammer away at the facts.
Peace!
Comment by Jay
Don't declare victory until the GOP is crumpled in a bloody pulp at your feet. Then continue stomping on them until they are a greasey spot on the ground.
November 1st, 2005 at 5:14 pmWay to go, Harry! Rip 'em a new one!
From a proud Nevadan!
November 1st, 2005 at 5:25 pmdear Deaux-Deaux,
November 1st, 2005 at 5:40 pmWe got the message
That Frist had the gall to say that Reid's call for a closed session was a slap in the face...that it showed no civility...what a pissant slimeball Frist is. Reid shouldn't only slap him in the face, he should knee this hypocrite where most males would hurt. This SOB has been conducting business by constantly slapping the dems down every chance he gets and he wants civility, he wants consideration...Hey Frist! GO TO HELL!
November 1st, 2005 at 5:41 pmOur hero, Harry Reid. Finally someone had the guts.
November 1st, 2005 at 5:44 pmListening to Cspan, whoa!
It is not looking good for the dumbya and crash-cart…
…corruption….cloud over congress…..unwillng to hold repug admin accountable…..illegal war…..no oversite hearings held….Iraq.
Comment by kjlovell
You guys are a riot! "It's a quagmire I tell you!"
Hey, dumbasses, here's the dealio. All the Repubs have to do is deny the Donk Traitors a quorum. Besides who cares what they do if nobody is watching. I'm happy to report that this is just another great big huge totally awesome and bitch'n disappointment for you. Enjoy.
November 1st, 2005 at 5:46 pmAll the Repubs have to do is deny the Donk Traitors a quorum.
That's right. And you will need to do that, because the only alternative is to let the truth come out. And the Yellowphants will never allow that.
Fight to hide the truth, rightie. Fight because your party depends on it.
November 1st, 2005 at 5:58 pmIf he could have had a third term he’d have been in Iraq just as fast as Al Gore or John Kerry would have been had they been elected. You are harboring the illusion that Donks don’t like war, they do.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — November 1, 2005 @ 4:02 pm
Oh you're so sure of that? And, under a Kerry or Gore administration, if they had invaded Iraq & there was all this buzz about lies and deceptions and questionable intelligence, are you saying you would have kept your big mouth shut?
November 1st, 2005 at 6:05 pmI’m happy to report that this is just another great big huge totally awesome and bitch’n disappointment for you. Enjoy.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — November 1, 2005 @ 5:46 pm
Yeah- like how you were saying there aren't going to be any indictments 2 weeks ago? Looks at your hands, IRI...they're trembling, aren't they?
Sad. But I'm laughing on the inside.
November 1st, 2005 at 6:14 pmOh, and furthermore, I-R-I, if Clinton had taken us into a war with Iraq to retaliate for the first bombing of the WTC and the U.S.S. Cole, you and the other whiners would be screaming that he did it only to get Gore elected. "Protecting America from terrorists?" "Fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here?" "Hah!" you'd say. You'd be calling B.S. on this.
November 1st, 2005 at 6:16 pm"If he could have had a third term he’d have been in Iraq just as fast as Al Gore or John Kerry would have been had they been elected."
So they would have been, by your inference,"just a criminal" in their decision to go to war in Iraq? I thought you said they'd be soft on terrrorism? Pick a theory (just one please) and stick with it...you're straying from the Talking Points and your masters will not be pleased.
See, that's the problem with using projection and conjecture in an argument. You're coming around in a circle. Oops.
November 1st, 2005 at 6:22 pm"All politics is local."
--Tip O'Neill
You can always forego a certain amount of debate if you have the key players, but every single Senator must be accorded respect and participation - because each Senator represents more Americans than the entire government employs.
Those who forget this are doomed to crash courses in remedial political science... and it's not graded on a curve.
November 1st, 2005 at 6:34 pmIn reply to #108.
Marie,
Exactly, Norah O'Donnell and Chris Matthews probably goes to bed with the Repukelicans and probably with each other. Look what it did for Daryn Kagan and
Rush Limburger.
That's why MSNBC has the only good thing going which is Keith Olbermann. Keith, like Jon Stewart, sees
the hypocrisy of politicians who profit off tragedies
and take advantage of gaining power by illegal means.
If a bunch of reporters can't handle being kept out of the loop so they can manipulate their audiences, TOO BAD!
GIVE EM' HELL, HARRY!
November 1st, 2005 at 7:00 pmThe Republicans are going to regret that huge stink they made over Clinton's stain on Lewinsky's dress. It's they're turn now, the only difference being, the Republican stain is on the entire world. They're finally getting what's coming to them. And to quote our fearless leader, George W. Bush, "bring it on."
November 1st, 2005 at 7:11 pmGlobal terrorism experts say US is losing the war. Considering the republicans are in charge, of course we're losing. The republicans have always sucked at foreign policy, this is just the latest example of their complete ineptitude.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051101/pl_nm/security_terrorism_dc
November 1st, 2005 at 7:56 pm#136 It's good to be a member of your team.
November 1st, 2005 at 8:06 pmI agree with your opinion on Olbermann and Stewart and why they are so good at what they do.
Marie, your post in #108 was right on. I mean, if I was a liberal I would like it. As far as I'm concerned, the democrats haven't done enough swearing and it's about time they finally got pissed.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but your remarks on Norah O'Donnell was a little harsh, though. She's go pretty and all. I can't help but lust after her whenever she's on and never pay attention to much of what she says anyway. Do you think she would go out on her old man if she had a chance? I mean, some of us really thinks she would give junior a hummer at least.
November 1st, 2005 at 8:25 pm#123 and then you have to sow the ground with salt so no repugs can ever grow again.
I know everyone's congratulating Harry Reid, but let's give a hand to Jay Rockefeller, too. He's always been a pretty thoughtful, dignified and well-spoken senator (surprising for a Rockefeller!)
November 1st, 2005 at 8:45 pmFyi - Harry Reid HAD to call a closed session. Kennedy and Dodd wanted a drink and it's easier to roll them home if the cameras aren't on.
November 1st, 2005 at 9:13 pmHermaphrodite, go back to your turkey baster.
November 1st, 2005 at 9:19 pmFrist saying the Democrats have no convictions. HAHAHAHAHA Freudian slip for Frist. Convictions are not a good thing Senator Frist.
November 1st, 2005 at 9:21 pmA drink, what a great idea. Wow the republican puritans sure have gotten their panties in a bunch (and that's just the men).
I guess forcing accountability for the failures of Iraq must have the inept republican frauds running scared. Can't blame them much. They lied about the reasons for going to war. They lied about the likely outcome of the war. They lied about the progress of the war. The lied about who was fighting us in the war. They lied about the costs of the war. The lied about the intelligence in the war. The lied about the iraqi constitution and what it means as a product from the war.
Every aspect has been a failure, so you can't really blame them for wanting to pretend it never happened. And you can't really blame the desperate fools who came here to defend the war. They after all don't have the adult capacity to admit they were wrong, and still cling to their child like fantasies and delusions. It must be hard to be an emotional child in the world of adults. In otherwords it must be hard being a republican these days - poor little failures.
November 1st, 2005 at 9:23 pmJeanne,
Yeah, I noticed that one as well. It was amusing in a pathetic sort of way.
Frist is a longterm criminal though. His 'hospital' chain has been involved in scams, fraud and corruption the entire time it has existed. And frist is part of why that's true. He's as dirty as they come - almost as dirty as delay. He's a petty thief - nothing more.
November 1st, 2005 at 9:25 pm#140, Joe,
November 1st, 2005 at 9:30 pmAs much as it pains me to acknowledge it, the Reps have some hot babes on their side. Norah O'Donnell is a beauty.
For a long time now I have seen that when entering the TV room, before I even know what the person is talking about, I can tell if he/she is Rep or Dem. The Reps are always carefully coiffed, perfectly made up, and dressed nattily. The Dems look like most of us -- like they got dressed in a hurry, ran their fingers through their hair slicked down with a bit of spit, and hope no one notices their socks don't match.
Mighty BigMouth,
The Repukelicans could surely use a drink, maybe a couple of more. George Jr. has already had enough to think that the Bird Flu is the greatest threat to America to date.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Guess you can't win when Harry's schooling the Evil Empire on how to behave in politics.
Better luck next time.
November 1st, 2005 at 9:54 pmFrist needs more than a slap in the face --maybe two or three more. Trent would be more than happy to apply an additional kick in the ass!
November 1st, 2005 at 10:20 pm[...] - Other Senator Statements Via ThinkProgress [...]
November 2nd, 2005 at 2:55 amlet's see the democrats kick some ass more often. geez, what took them so long. and great reporting by Waas helped push Reid and rockefeller.....
November 2nd, 2005 at 3:54 amUseless grandstanding by the ever so eager to shoot themselves in the foot Donks. But hey, the've got electronic dogs. How cool is that?
GOP Angered by Closed Senate Session (Charles Babington and Dafna Linzer, 11/02/05, Washington Post)
Plans to bring in electronic-bug-sniffing dogs were dropped when it became clear that senators would trade barbs but discuss no classified information.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/01/AR2005110101037.html?referrer=email
November 2nd, 2005 at 8:46 amActually Clinton showed in Kosovo that not only could he distinguish between a necessary and unnecessary military action - but he also demostrated he could engage it such a way as to secure the peace.
Comment by Ryan "toofuckingstuidtobreathonhisown" Neat
Sweetcheeks, BJ went in there and killed the wrong people. Now there is a giant clusterfuck and we've still got troops getting shot at by the same Muslim terrorists we went in there to help. It's a quagmire, just like your brain.
November 2nd, 2005 at 8:51 amElectronic dogs? You're an idiot. It refers to dogs that sniff out electronic bugs.
November 2nd, 2005 at 9:49 amElectronic dogs? You’re an idiot. It refers to dogs that sniff out electronic bugs.
Comment by WC
Oh shut up you humorless dipshit.
November 2nd, 2005 at 10:39 amActually Clinton showed in Kosovo that not only could he distinguish between a necessary and unnecessary military action - but he also demostrated he could engage it such a way as to secure the peace.
Comment by Ryan “toofuckingstuidtobreathonhisown†Neat
Whiznat tha fizzay is you try'n ta tizzle us? Kosovo was justified? Look deepa you foolish preacha fo shizzle. Why is it thiznat Milosizzles stiznill has not been found guily of any crime in tha UN-Democrizzles Party sponsored kangaroo court? Ask any Serbian . Aint no killin' everybodys chillin'. Ask any Iraqi like a motha fucka. Ask any Vietnamese. Ask any Chilean . Relax, cus I'm bout to take my respect. Ask any Japanese . It dont stop till the wheels fall off. Ask n Afghani like a motha fucka. Ask any one.
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November 2nd, 2005 at 5:03 pmTOP TEN REJECTED SENATE DEMOCRAT STUNTS
10. Hold their breath until they turn blue if not given their way on judicial nominations.
9. Have Harry Reid wear a beard of bees during an entire meeting of the Senate.
8. Do a fully costumed production of The Sound of Music on the Capitol steps.
7. Hold a fundraiser where Ted Kennedy competes against a live pig in a hotdog eating contest.
6. Daring daylight liquor store robberies.
5. Jump a shark on water-skis.
4. Set Buddhist monks on fire in protest of Iraq war.
3. All Senate Democrat episode of Fear Factor.
2. Have Chuck Schumer train and then compete to win the Ultimate Fighting Championship.
And the number one rejected Senate Democrat stunt...
1. Anything rational.
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