Certainly there will be more indictments. There are a lot of unnamed parties in Scooter’s indictments, and I’m thinking as soon as Fitzgerald has his info he will produce more indictments. Fitz will not jump the gun on this.
Now that he mentions it, it does seem like Libby’s lie is a clever firewall protecting CHENEY (not just Libby) from being charged with violating the Espionage Act.
Excerpts from Bush’s press conference today, interspersed with my thoughts:
BUSH: I’ve talked a lot recently about the Zawahiri letter to Zarqawi, which is a clear statement of purpose by these terrorists. It should be viewed for what it is: an open warning to the free world that this is a very vital war and we need to win it.
ME: Oh, really? Al-Qaeda disputes the letter as a fake, so it can’t be much of an “open warningâ€. Professor Juan Cole disputes the letter as well (Zawahiri calling Prophet Muhammad’s grandson an ‘Imam’ is strange, saying how much he “misses†Zarqawi – very unlikely.) He thinks it’s a U.S psy-ops or a Shi’ite forgery.
BUSH: So I spent a lot of time talking about that; and …
ME: Just talking?
BUSH: .. more than talking about it, acting on it.
ME: Yeah, how? Where’s Zawahiri? Where’s Zarqawi? Americans are on to you, so I’d advise you to stay off the topic of terrorism, buddy …
#21 This is how he started the last mess we are still in up to our necks. Start a false story, based on a lie, and go from there — the lemmings will believe him.
I love it! Just the other day I read David Brooks who said that the Libby indictments were the extent of the Administrations bad news.
Well, for those of us old enough to remember such things, this mirrored nearly word for word the GOP editorialist thoughts on the emerging Watergate crisis lo those many years ago.
This thing can still go any number of directions. But it’s increasingly obvious that the matter is far from concluded.
The water is getting awfully warm for Rove, Cheney, and the Head Chimp.
Didn’t Dean (JOHN DEAN you morans get a brain) week before last write a findlaw column about how any indictments of any kind would be unlikely? I wonder how he got so far off, and what turns him around.
Great point Alan, I was about to ask the same thing. (That means there are at least two people that think we’re pretty smart).
I hazard a guess as to why the reversal. Dean is a veteran of the “game.” He knows the quickest path to the press is to have a contrarian viewpoint. That’s why he got so much attention for his “Worse than Watergate” book. That’s why he went against all evidence prior to the Libby charges. And that’s why he’s now going against the grain.
He may be right, I hope he is on this. But I think his predictions are designed to grab attention first, and be accurate second.
Go read the article. Dean explains why he changed his position.
Here let me sum it up for you:
“After readin the indictment against Libby, I have come to realize that Fitzgerald ain’t fvcking around.”
So, what this means is that when Dean said there wouldn’t be anymore indictments, he hadn’t even read the Libby indictments. This is par for the course for right wingers. Speak without researching.
Libby is a small fish in the cesspool of neocons in this administration whose militaristic, aggressive and mindless wars have strengthened terorist organizations, caused unconscionable harm to Iraq and Afghanistan and undermined the UN and the system of international laws needed for global peace and security.
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Rice and Wolfiwitz to name a few are all guilty of war crimes by violating the UN Charter, the Geneva Conventions and the UN Convention on Torture. By doing so they have also violated the War Crimes Act and Article VI of the constitiion. At the very least, these war crimes should become part of the dialogue on Libby’s indictments.
Author of “Lying for Empire: How to Commit War Crimes with a straight Face”
“Anyone who is indicted for a Class I Felony who works in my administration will be taken care of.” George W. Bush, November 22, 2005
November 4th, 2005 at 2:00 pmCertainly there will be more indictments. There are a lot of unnamed parties in Scooter’s indictments, and I’m thinking as soon as Fitzgerald has his info he will produce more indictments. Fitz will not jump the gun on this.
November 4th, 2005 at 2:07 pmJohn Dean, I hope you’re right. Vanderhei of the Wash. Post suspects that we will know by the end of November.
November 4th, 2005 at 2:08 pmCoincidence, I was just reading the same John Dean article via http://www.commondreams.org .
Now that he mentions it, it does seem like Libby’s lie is a clever firewall protecting CHENEY (not just Libby) from being charged with violating the Espionage Act.
November 4th, 2005 at 2:50 pmDo you guys actually want Howard Dean speaking for liberals?
November 4th, 2005 at 2:52 pmOops… just looked again
November 4th, 2005 at 2:53 pmnot Howard. It’s John Dean.
Don’t you love it when a troll’s troll blows up in his face?
November 4th, 2005 at 3:01 pmAnyway, he makes one hell of a sausage!
November 4th, 2005 at 3:02 pmI wonder what G. Gordon thinks?…. No I don’t.
November 4th, 2005 at 3:14 pmAre you calling me a troll?
November 4th, 2005 at 3:20 pm…unless, of course, Fitzgerald get’s REEEALY depressed and is suicided. The Reich-wing has ways of helping people do that you know.
November 4th, 2005 at 3:20 pmAhh, #8, that would be Jimmy Dean…
November 4th, 2005 at 3:22 pm#12. A joke, Get IT?
November 4th, 2005 at 3:26 pm#12 from the movies?
November 4th, 2005 at 3:26 pmGood one #14
November 4th, 2005 at 3:28 pmHe was great in Rebel Without a Clue! But a little light in the loafers, they say.
November 4th, 2005 at 3:48 pmDo you guys actually want Howard Dean speaking for liberals?
Comment by ThomNYC — November 4
Yes! If we make liberals think that Dean is a wacko, they won’t let him speak for them!
November 4th, 2005 at 3:49 pmAnd he was light in the loafers! Plus, he’s dead!
November 4th, 2005 at 3:50 pmThis is the same John Dean that said two weeks ago that there will be no indictments at all.
November 4th, 2005 at 3:52 pmThis is the same John Dean that said two weeks ago that there will be no indictments at all.
Comment by Anti Warhol
Can’t you read, you commie? That was Pure Pork Sausage guy.
November 4th, 2005 at 4:01 pmExcerpts from Bush’s press conference today, interspersed with my thoughts:
BUSH: I’ve talked a lot recently about the Zawahiri letter to Zarqawi, which is a clear statement of purpose by these terrorists. It should be viewed for what it is: an open warning to the free world that this is a very vital war and we need to win it.
ME: Oh, really? Al-Qaeda disputes the letter as a fake, so it can’t be much of an “open warningâ€. Professor Juan Cole disputes the letter as well (Zawahiri calling Prophet Muhammad’s grandson an ‘Imam’ is strange, saying how much he “misses†Zarqawi – very unlikely.) He thinks it’s a U.S psy-ops or a Shi’ite forgery.
BUSH: So I spent a lot of time talking about that; and …
ME: Just talking?
BUSH: .. more than talking about it, acting on it.
ME: Yeah, how? Where’s Zawahiri? Where’s Zarqawi? Americans are on to you, so I’d advise you to stay off the topic of terrorism, buddy …
November 4th, 2005 at 4:12 pm#21 This is how he started the last mess we are still in up to our necks. Start a false story, based on a lie, and go from there — the lemmings will believe him.
November 4th, 2005 at 4:31 pmI love it! Just the other day I read David Brooks who said that the Libby indictments were the extent of the Administrations bad news.
Well, for those of us old enough to remember such things, this mirrored nearly word for word the GOP editorialist thoughts on the emerging Watergate crisis lo those many years ago.
This thing can still go any number of directions. But it’s increasingly obvious that the matter is far from concluded.
The water is getting awfully warm for Rove, Cheney, and the Head Chimp.
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7617.shtml
November 4th, 2005 at 5:15 pmDidn’t Dean (JOHN DEAN you morans get a brain) week before last write a findlaw column about how any indictments of any kind would be unlikely? I wonder how he got so far off, and what turns him around.
November 4th, 2005 at 5:47 pmGreat point Alan, I was about to ask the same thing. (That means there are at least two people that think we’re pretty smart).
I hazard a guess as to why the reversal. Dean is a veteran of the “game.” He knows the quickest path to the press is to have a contrarian viewpoint. That’s why he got so much attention for his “Worse than Watergate” book. That’s why he went against all evidence prior to the Libby charges. And that’s why he’s now going against the grain.
He may be right, I hope he is on this. But I think his predictions are designed to grab attention first, and be accurate second.
New on EWM: Kevin Bacon to play Libby in upcoming “Six Degrees of Scooterâ€
It’s ‘Dumb and Dumber’ meets ‘All the President’s Men.’
November 4th, 2005 at 6:03 pm#24 & #25
Go read the article. Dean explains why he changed his position.
Here let me sum it up for you:
“After readin the indictment against Libby, I have come to realize that Fitzgerald ain’t fvcking around.”
So, what this means is that when Dean said there wouldn’t be anymore indictments, he hadn’t even read the Libby indictments. This is par for the course for right wingers. Speak without researching.
November 4th, 2005 at 6:39 pm“[Plame] will be declassified soon”
-Rove talking to reporters.
November 4th, 2005 at 7:23 pmI like findlaw.com, its a great site.
November 4th, 2005 at 8:04 pmLibby is a small fish in the cesspool of neocons in this administration whose militaristic, aggressive and mindless wars have strengthened terorist organizations, caused unconscionable harm to Iraq and Afghanistan and undermined the UN and the system of international laws needed for global peace and security.
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Rice and Wolfiwitz to name a few are all guilty of war crimes by violating the UN Charter, the Geneva Conventions and the UN Convention on Torture. By doing so they have also violated the War Crimes Act and Article VI of the constitiion. At the very least, these war crimes should become part of the dialogue on Libby’s indictments.
Author of “Lying for Empire: How to Commit War Crimes with a straight Face”
November 5th, 2005 at 5:25 pmvalium
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