Bush, Cheney, and Powell Repeatedly Pushed False Evidence To Justify War
Bush, Cheney, and Powell Repeatedly Pushed False Evidence To Justify War
The New York Times reveals that the Bush administration was warned in February 2002 that its source of knowledge for the claim that Iraq was training al Qaeda in chemical and biological weapons was “was intentionally misleading the debriefers.”
Beginning in February 2002 and continuing into 2004, the Bush administration repeatedly used this false evidence to justify the war against Iraq. Here are some examples:
Powell: “Al-Qaeda continues to have a deep interest in acquiring weapons of mass destruction. As with the story of Zarqawi and his network, I can trace the story of a senior terrorist operative telling how Iraq provided training in these weapons to al-Qaeda. Fortunately, this operative is now detained and he has told his story. I will relate it to you now as he, himself, described it…The support that this detainee describes included Iraq offering chemical or biological weapons training for two al-Qaeda associates beginning in December 2000.†[Powell remarks to UN, 2/5/03]
Bush: “Senior members of Iraqi intelligence and al Qaeda have met at least eight times since the early 1990s. Iraq has sent bomb-making and document forgery experts to work with al Qaeda. Iraq has also provided al Qaeda with chemical and biological weapons training.†[2/6/03]
Bush: “Iraq has also provided al Qaeda with chemical and biological weapons training. And an al Qaeda operative was sent to Iraq several times in the late 1990s for help in acquiring poisons and gases.†[2/8/03]
Bush: “Some al Qaeda leaders who fled Afghanistan went to Iraq. These include one very senior al Qaeda leader who received medical treatment in Baghdad this year, and who has been associated with planning for chemical and biological attacks. We’ve learned that Iraq has trained al Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases.†[10/7/02]
Cheney: “[Saddam] also had an established relationship with al Qaeda, providing training to al Qaeda members in the areas of poisons, gases, making conventional bombs.†[10/10/03]
Cheney: “[Saddam] also had an established relationship with al Qaeda — providing training to al Qaeda members in areas of poisons, gases and conventional bombs.†[10/17/03]
Cheney: “It’s clearly established in terms of training, provision of bomb-making experts, training of people with respect to chemical and biological warfare capabilities, that al-Qaeda sent personnel to Iraq for training and so forth…†[CNBC’s “Kudlow & Kramer,†6/4/04]
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at least Powell feels bad about it… too bad for his political career… definitely could have been the first black president someday…
November 5th, 2005 at 8:15 pmPowell has a long history of bad decisions. He was part of the Mai Lai massacre coverup in Vietnam, and that’s one of the reason he’s ‘trusted’ by republican fascists. He’s always been a ‘good soldier’ to the detriment of the democracy. He’s a modern day example of the dangers of following bad orders.
November 5th, 2005 at 8:17 pmdo you guys feel the unraveling coming? If the Democrats weren’t pushing so hard on this issue, we may not have learned about this DoD memo. There’s bound to be more…
November 5th, 2005 at 8:20 pmWard Churchill was right about one thing. The chickens do come home to roost.
November 5th, 2005 at 8:23 pmThe real shame is that we can’t get back these last five years under this idiot. More damage to our Republic under him than the last fourty three.
November 5th, 2005 at 8:26 pmYou’re totally right Citizen80203. This bastard will go to his grave, happy that he was elected twice and never defeated. In his deluded world, he probably still thinks everyone loves him.
November 5th, 2005 at 8:29 pmYeah, because Bush actually thinks he was elected.
November 5th, 2005 at 8:31 pm#6, Mary, I agree. It seems we all agree. Bush is delusional. Powell’s legacy will be one of which he will not be proud.
November 5th, 2005 at 8:35 pmI do feel the unraveling has begun, Ted, I am impatient that things take so long.
This story will be in time for the Sunday morning talk shows. Stay tuned for spin that makes you dizzy.
November 5th, 2005 at 8:38 pmWhy couldn’t we have had this last year during the election cycle, couple that with Judy Miller halting the Fitzgerald juggernaut and events would’ve surely been different
richb
November 5th, 2005 at 8:42 pmThat White House graphic is awesome and hilarious (if it weren’t true)
November 5th, 2005 at 8:47 pmToo little to late NY Times for a few tens of thousands dead.
Nice if you would have discovered the deception in your own newsroom back then.
Nonetheless, if it undoes dubya, I’ll take it.
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November 5th, 2005 at 9:00 pmWhy couldn’t we have had this last year during the election cycle, couple that with Judy Miller halting the Fitzgerald juggernaut and events would’ve surely been different
richb
Comment by RichB in Carroll County md
Why do you suppose they were so anxious to keep it secret? You already no the answer to your question.
November 5th, 2005 at 9:00 pmThis is one big giant web of lies and misinformation by the wing wing wackos. This goes all the way to Bush, unless he is the biggest patsy in history.
November 5th, 2005 at 9:04 pm“unless he is the biggest patsy in history.”
November 5th, 2005 at 9:15 pmNot likely, though he WILL play the
“incompetence” defense sometime in the
future – with Chimpy it might actually
be believed.
Thank you moderator.
November 5th, 2005 at 9:36 pmAt what point, if ever, will Bush admit he made a mistake?
November 5th, 2005 at 9:50 pmThe only “news” here is that the NecCon Times is bothering to do a story on this instead of looking the other way, as they have for the past 5 years.
November 5th, 2005 at 10:13 pmAt what point to Republican senators and congresspeople decide to just throw Bush under a Bush and worry about their own elections. If these kinds of revelations keep up for the next 3 months, you will definately see it.
November 5th, 2005 at 10:20 pmWRONG FROM THE START
PRISONERS QUESTIONED lie all the time. The New York Times reports a story Bush knew of a lying prisoner months before it used his â€truth†to support the push for war in Iraq. Is this what pushed Harry Reid
November 5th, 2005 at 10:50 pmThe Lies Were Intentional
I suppose coming from the position that I didn’t really believe the Bush administration and their rationale used to justify the war in Iraq, I personally cannot get too worked up over the revelations that the evidence was made up out of whole cloth. …
November 5th, 2005 at 11:35 pmAre you telling me the guy feeding the bogus Iraq-Al Qaeda information was named ALIBI?
November 5th, 2005 at 11:55 pmhttp://www.AlGoreLabs.com
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November 5th, 2005 at 11:56 pmhttp://www.AlGoreLabs.com
#8, Marie. Unraveling??? I hear this said repeatedly as every new travesty becomes exposed. I think your optimism is naive and misplaced. The Bush Administration operates outside the law, outside both the laws of the United States, and international law. What makes you think that the law can “unravel” this Administration?? If nothing else, the last five years should have taught us that these bastards have no ethics, no morality, no respect for the law, and no loyalty to the American peoople and their security. The closer this administration comes to being fully exposed, the graver our circumstance becomes. Do you REALLY doubt that these bastards will resort to staging another “trifecta” in order to put us back on the fear train? These criminal traitors did not come into power by ethical and democratic means, and they certainly are not going to be removed easily or conventionally. They have a plan, and the draconian and oppressive measures they have put in place are part of that plan. Do you really think it is an ACCIDENT that the Patriot Act is DESIGNED to quell dissent more than it is designed to protect security?? That it is an ACCIDENT that it primarily targets CITIZENS? Have you read up on the powers that a “red alert” gives the Executive branch and the military??? The only thing that is “unraveling” is this administration’s ability to conceal the truth. But, they PLANNED for that inevitable eventuality. This country is in deep shit.
November 6th, 2005 at 12:08 amWell said #24, but have a little more faith. The elections of 2006 should favor the Democrats and this country will be better for it. Until then, stay vigilant.
November 6th, 2005 at 12:28 amDno’t worry guys, this little Iraq thing will be a cakewalk. Then we hit Iran.
Trust me.
November 6th, 2005 at 12:48 amI say as long as this nit-witt stays in power and at least until we can get him impeached he should be made to undergo monthly drug and alcohol tests least he gets our ass in yet another war.
November 6th, 2005 at 12:56 amBush and company are going to fall or any illusion the people still have of a Democracy will.
The tooth paste is out of the tube.
November 6th, 2005 at 1:43 amIt is a sure thing the neo-con apologists, and wannabes will find a way to spin this latest revelation, just like they have all the others. It is also sure the trolls that hound Think Progress will post all that rubbish here.
We can expect the trolls anytime now, as soon as they get their talking points from Faux News (”Smear and Unbalance”), or from any of their favourite blogs.
Fellow progressives, let me preemptively warn you against the trolls who will try to throw you off topic. The central questions are: Did the Bush administration deceive the public in order to invade Iraq? Was the intelligence manufactured, manipulated and/or misrepresented in order to frighten the US into supporting the invasion? Did the Bush administration misrepresent the facts to justify the invasion of a country that posed no threat?
Moreover, is the Bush administration still deceiving the public, misrepresenting and/or manipulating the facts in order to continue the occupation of Iraq?
Those are the real issues –not what Clinton, Kerry, and the other said BEFORE the invasion. What they said (with respect to the central questions) is quite irrelevant.
November 6th, 2005 at 1:52 amGerman Intel Agent Von Bulow Solves 911
November 6th, 2005 at 2:08 amhttp://www.rense.com/general68/911jh.htm
to hell with secret grand juries – off to the war crimes tribunals with these monstrous liars and murderers
November 6th, 2005 at 3:00 amIt took three years, but we finally know what the “DENIAL AND DECEPTION” part of the logo was referring to.
November 6th, 2005 at 3:15 am“The closer this administration comes to being fully exposed, the graver our circumstance becomes.”
Absolutely. Thanks for saying that — it is the salient truth. Unmasking is key to going forward, but unmasking is not disempowering of the criminals who have seized our country. Unmasking will make the tyranny all the more blatant — it does NOT reduce our danger, but we can’t take the path of hiding our heads in the sand and allow this tyranny to grow any larger because it is scary to oppose tyranny. “Mr. Dangerous” is very much a traitor, and I believe the future might be quite a bit not what he plans.
I also believe we have the potential to force Bushliar to resign, since he is not as strong as his rhetoric, and in fact appears to be a GIGANTIC coward.
“Well said #24, but have a little more faith. The elections of 2006 should favor the Democrats and this country will be better for it. Until then, stay vigilant.”
The illegal elections of 2006 will still be illegal, with something like 28 states STILL not having papertrails or recount rights, like they did in 1998.
The vote-fraud is going to continue to be the wildcard it has been, until activists in each of the damaged states fights free of the CONTRACTS by which their democracy has been stolen.
California is half-free — we will get our papertrail back in Jan 06, just one more totally illegal special election to go. But having recount rights in not the same as getting recounts, as Ohio proved in 2004, when Kerry won Ohio and the presidency, but the Bushliar Justice Dept. refused to investigate CLEARCUT felonies.
California won’t be free until proprietary/secret software vote-fraud voting is history. Until those contracts are cancelled, and the companies prosecuted, none of us will be free.
November 6th, 2005 at 4:45 am“Iraq has sent … document forgery experts …”
Right. Iraq. Wink wink, nudge nudge, know what I mean?
November 6th, 2005 at 4:52 amThe case of misleading the nation into war goes deep. I’ve heard from an aid of a “Big Senator” a republican no less, that the criminal acts of Cheney and Bush go all the way to allowing 9/11 to happen, and in fact enabling al queda. May these traitors rot! Or maybe we should push them off the top of skyscrapers.
November 6th, 2005 at 4:53 amThe GOP is really getting nervous about Iraq now. Eleanor Clift actually talked about Bush’s impeachment in her column today. As a result, we can now behold the hilarious spectacle of GOP drones actually whining that impeachment is anti-democratic and unfair.
November 6th, 2005 at 5:17 amWas this a deliberate attempt by Osama Bin Laden to provide the neo-cons with more evidence against Saddam Hussein?
November 6th, 2005 at 5:37 amBin Laden always regarded Saddam as an apostate; he even offerred to use his mujhaddin to drive the Iraqis out of Kuwait. On learning the Bush wanted to invade Iraq, why wouldn’t Bin Laden want to encourage him, after all it would reduce the pressure on him in Afghanistan and cause substantial damage to the US.
So, Bin Laden selects a fairly low ranking member of al Qaeda, creates a ‘legend’ for him and then gets him ‘arrested’ and interrogated by the US. The guy knows that although he might be tortured it will most likely not end in his death and that once he starts ‘co-operating’ he is probably safe, far safer than if he was sent on a suicide mission.
There is enough information about successful dis-information operations out there such as that (Operation Quicksilver)involving General Patton and the ‘1st US Army Group’ prior to D-day for Bin Laden to understand the possibilities.
The advantage that Bin Laden would have is that the neo-cons were so desperate to justify the invasion of Iraq that the were even fabricating their own evidence. An al-Qaeda operative turns up and slowly spills the beans under interrogation. Even though the professionals in the CIA might be sceptical the rank amateurs in the OSP and thus the White House are going to lap it up.
Once again it is great to vent and yes, it is nice to see the continuing exposures of what we all know is the truth about these LIARS, but where the hell will we be in just about a year from now if we all can’t get it together and VOTE these thieves out of office. So folks,vent away as nero burns down Rome. Stand up in your safe homes and rant away. Listen to the present group of “leaders” and then do as they have been telling us to do for what will be the last 6 years –
November 6th, 2005 at 7:44 am1- bend over
2- stick you heads between your cheeks
3- then kiss your … goodbye!
UNLESS
you all wake up and start the Take- back NOW!!!!! HOUSE BY HOUSE;
STREET BY STREET;DISTRICT BY DISTRICT; STATE BY STATE; without any exceptions.
billjpa@aol.com
Ah, yes, we do rant and our hope is that the most corrupt administration this country has ever seen goes down in flames. (Or Plame)
November 6th, 2005 at 10:18 amBut just like this administration those of us who live in our cyber-space bubble of blogs and have known of the deception and lies the average work-a-day boob is wholly unaware of, things won’t change until what we know reaches them.
Put your hope aside. Walk the streets and do your own poll. What you will find out is that an overwhelming percentage of people couldn’t tell you who the Vice-president is, much less what’s in the Patriots Act, or what relationship Halliburton has to anything or even what Halliburton is. We’re a nation of fools whom mostly will choose Nick-at-Night over C-SPAN, and even though the fools may own a computer will search for porn over political Blogs.
We too live in a bubble. And this bubble of what we know will only burst upon the boobs of this nation untill things get so bad they have to take notice. And this is happening somewhat now at the pumps. When this winter hits it will become even more evident when we recieve our three to six-hundred dollar heating bills. Then the boobs will take notice.
#24, POA. Very well said – and a true assessment of the crime family inhabiting the White House. They are expert in stealth planning and behavior. Perhaps it is naive to think they are coming undone, but if I don’t hold on to something, I will sink into despair, because as you correctly say – we are in deep shit.
November 6th, 2005 at 11:35 am[...] For more examples of Bush Administration statements based on Libi’s fabrications, see Think Progress. [...]
November 6th, 2005 at 12:29 pmThe Impeachment of a War Criminal
There has been an undercurrent of unrest over the call for the impeachment of President Bush that is now bubbling to the surface. Several recent polls are showing a shift in public opinion towards impeachment of the president while a number of organizations are campaigning to convince the House of Representatives to lay charges. There are many impediments towards impeachment not the least of which is the fact that the House is Republican. Nevertheless, it is a healthy step forward that the American people may be finally realizing that the President is devious and lacks integrity.
On June 30/05 a Zogby Poll reported that “(42%) say they would favor impeachment proceedings if it is found the President misled the nation about his reasons for going to war with Iraq.†More recently an Ipso Public Affairs conducted between October 6/05 to October 9/05 found that 50% of Americans agreed with the statement “If President Bush did not tell the truth about his reasons for going to war against Iraq, Congress should consider holding him accountable by impeaching him.†The Santa Cruz City Council voted 6-1 “…to send a letter to members of the House Judiciary Committee asking the panel to investigate…†impeachment if “President Bush …deceived the American public about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction.†Veterans for Peace have called for the impeachment of the President on a number of charges none of which refer to international law.
Calls for impeachment of President Bush based on his lies about weapons of mass destruction are misguided and misplaced. While lying about weapons of mass destruction to persuade Congress to grant approval for a war against Iraq is a serious offense, it is overshadowed by President Bush’s actions following the approval. President Bush and his administration have perpetrated major war crimes in Iraq and should be held accountable for violating the War Crimes Act.
The U.S. constitution states that “The President…shall be removed from office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.†(Article II, Section4) Constitutional scholars agree that a serious criminal act constitutes grounds for impeachment. If President Bush has violated the Geneva Conventions, he should be charged under the War Crimes Act.
The War Crimes Act states that “Whoever…commits a war crime…defined as a grave breach in any of the international conventions signed at Geneva 12 August 1949, or any protocol to such convention to which the United States is a party†will be “fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both, and if death results to the victim, shall also be subject to the penalty of death.†According to the Nuremberg Principles, if war crimes have been committed under this act, President Bush, as head of state, should be held responsible.
President Bush began violating international law the moment the U.S. started bombing Iraq. According to international law, there are only two criteria for a legal war: self-defense as defined in the United Nations Charter, Chapter VII, Article 51 and authorization of the Security Council. There is no specific UN resolution authorizing the use of force in Iraq in 2003 and none of the former resolutions pertaining to Iraq authorize the use of force.
The Bush Administration cannot justify the war under the spurious defence of a preemptive strike because no such term exists in international law. International law states that an act of war only qualifies as self-defense if there is an actual or imminent threat. Administration legal spinners can’t legitimately demonstrate that Iraq posed such a threat. The UN charter also states that “Measures taken by members in the exercise of this right of self-defense shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.†(Chapter VII, Article 51) By completely bypassing the Security Council, the Bush Administration has forgone any opportunity to claim that the war was legitimate.
President Bush has also violated a number of clauses in the fourth Geneva Convention which states that “In the case of armed conflict…Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of the armed forces who have laid down their arms…shall in all circumstances be treated humanely…[and] the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and at any place: a) Violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds; mutilation, cruel treatment and torture; b) Taking of hostages; c) Outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment.†(Part 1, Article 3) It also states that “The present Convention shall apply from the outset of any conflict or occupation.†(Article 6)
As well, he has violated clauses in the first Protocol of the Geneva Conventions including “The civilian population and individual civilians shall enjoy protections against dangers arising from military operations†(Chapter II, Article 51) and “Civilian objects shall not be the object of attack or of reprisals.†(Chapter III, Article 52)
Fallujah is a typical example of American forces ignoring the rights of civilians and the protection of non-military targets. The objective of the November 8/05 assault on Fallujah was to kill all the insurgents who were in the city and to instill fear as a deterrent from further action on the part of all insurgents throughout Iraq.
Preceding the attack on Fallujah, American warplanes conducted nightly air strikes on residential buildings, restaurants and mosques. Before the actual assault began, U.S. warplanes reduced the Nazzal Emergency Hospital in the center of Fallujah to rubble. American forces then encircled the city with a cordon of more than 10,000 armed troops and were supported by all the American warplanes in the area. According to a CounterPunch Newsletter, November 17/04, “Women and children were allowed to leave the doomed city, but all males ‘of fighting age’ were turned back if they tried to leave…They were turned back to face the coming attack.†U.S. marines set up blockades so that ambulances and other vehicles transporting dead or injured residents could not reach a hospital. (Doug Lorimer, Scoop Independent News, November 18/04) Fallujah General Hospital was taken over by American marines and “Patients and hospital employees were rushed out of rooms by armed soldiers and ordered to sit or lie on the floor while troops tied their hands behind their backs.†(New York Times embedded reporter, ZNet, False Dawn, November 8, 2004)
After blasting Fallujah with tanks, U.S. marines traveled from house to house and threw hand grenades into each room before determining whether persons were there. A quarter of its homes were completely destroyed and most of the remaining homes were severely damaged. (Michael Schwartz, ZNet, January 14/05) Erik Eckolm of the New York Times described the city as “a desolate world of skeletal buildings, tank-blasted homes, weeping power lines and severed palm trees.†(Michael Schwartz, ZNet, January 14, 2005)
According to Michael Schwartz, “When the first medical teams arrived in January they collected more than 700 unburied and rotting bodies (reputedly including those of 550 women and children) in only one-third of the city; and these obviously didn’t include the dead already buried during the battle or hidden under the debris.â€
Many of the 200,000 refugees who were forced to abandon their homes brought nothing with them and ended up in refugee camps without any facilities or help from the American or the Interim Iraqi Government.
Even one death in an illegal war would have constituted a war crime. In Fallujah, innocent people were killed, buildings were destroyed, and refugees ignored, all of which violate the clauses of the Geneva Conventions stated above.
Alberto Gonzales, former White House Counsel, declared that provisions of the Geneva Conventions are obsolete and therefore, the U.S. can opt out of them. International law was not created as a set of guidelines under which nations could pick and choose which laws they will honor. If the United States Government believes that certain clauses in the Geneva Conventions should no longer be operative, the legitimate course of action would be to convince the signatories to the Conventions to discuss changes in the proper forum. As well, the White House lawyers should read Article VI, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution which declares that “All treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land.†In other words, the UN Charter and Geneva Conventions are a part of American law and violating either of them is tantamount to violating American law.
To impeach President Bush on the grounds that he lied about WMD will further weaken the United Nations and the international regime of laws which criminalize wars of aggression and civilize war to the furthest extent possible. By only charging Bush with lying implies that the war would have been legitimate had the Americans found any WMD. The mere presence of WMD in Iraq does not qualify as an actual or imminent threat. One of the most basic issues in a claim of self-defense is whether Iraq had the delivery capability for its WMD to reach American soil. The inspection teams, UNSCOM and UNMOVIC, and the International Atomic Energy Agency had found no evidence of WMD and no delivery capability. According to Hans Blix, Executive Chairman of UNMOVIC “Iraq on the whole has cooperated…access has been provided to all sites.â€
Ignoring the war crimes of the President also diminishes the role of the United Nations as the only instrument for resolving disputes and authorizing war. Congressional approval for a war does not override the United Nations Charter which has become part of American law. If nations decide not to relinquish some of their sovereignty over foreign and defense policy to a world body such as the UN, the world would be reduced to a state of war and disorder.
President Bush is guilty of lying to the American people and violating international law. Both are serious offenses but to ignore the latter is a disservice to the United Nations and to the people of Iraq who have died or suffered at the hands of this war criminal.
Author of “Lying for Empire: How to Commit War Crimes with a Straight Face”
November 6th, 2005 at 12:44 pm[...] President Bush, Vice President Cheney and other top administration officials repeatedly claimed that Iraq was providing al-Qaeda with training in chemical and biological weapons. The administration’s claims were based on the statements of a known fabricator, al Qaeda senior military trainer Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi. It gets worse. The Washington Post reports that al-Libi formally retracted his claims in early 2004: In fact, in January 2004 al-Libi recanted his claims, and in February 2004 the CIA withdrew all intelligence reports based on his information. [...]
November 6th, 2005 at 12:52 pmThe personnel trained in Bagdad was probably Bagdad Bob…He never got anything wrong…INFIDELS commiting suicide at the GATES!
Am I the only one who thinks the Repugs are like crack addicts in denial? Do they really think we are going to believe their Spun BS any longer?
November 6th, 2005 at 1:48 pmGerman Intel Agent Von Bulow Solves 911
http://www.rense.com/general68/911jh.htm
Comment by Do not forget September 11th. — November 6, 2005 @ 2:08 am
Why do all the Tin Foil Hatties hang out here? It’s a GOPstapo misinformation con and a hustle.
:::Cue Twilight Zone Theme music:::
Who is Karl Schwarz?
Karl Schwarz
November 6th, 2005 at 2:09 pm#43, I had to print it out in order to read it better. Thanks for pasting it here. Wow! The guy makes a cogent argument for impeachment — for the right reasons.
November 6th, 2005 at 3:03 pmThe reports from Fallujah are sickening.
We’ve been screaming this for more than TWO years! Will people listen now?? Powell at the UN:
November 6th, 2005 at 4:55 pmCLICK
http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/powell_lies_to_un.html
#22 “Are you telling me the guy feeding the bogus Iraq-Al Qaeda information was named ALIBI”?
Good catch, I thought the name meant Scooter Libby aka al-liby.
CONTACT EACH AND EVERY REPRESENTATIVE AND SENATOR IN YOUR STATE…TELL THEM IF THEY DO NOT BEGIN IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS THEY WILL NOT HAVE YOUR VOTE IN 2006 OR IN 2008.
Its the only way.
November 6th, 2005 at 6:56 pm#43,
1. Don’t forget that it is illegal to invade a country for the sole purpose of a “regime change”. (that’s where the lies come in)
2. The attack that is happening at this very moment on the Syrian border is comparable to the Fallujua operation.
3. Our troops are in Syria now and we haven’t declared war because Bushie now understands that war would be illegal.
I support your findings #43 and agree. I also support Ramsey Clarks findings at votetoimpeach.org
Bushie has been caught red handed and its nice to know that the legal community supports impeachment.
November 6th, 2005 at 7:10 pm#49 – Not five minutes ago I made the same comment. The captured guy is called “I been shake alibi”!!
November 6th, 2005 at 7:20 pm#50, Also, Susan, I fear the battle now occurring near the Syrian border is not unlike the Fallujah operation.
November 6th, 2005 at 7:21 pmYou know the battle near the Syrian border is like Fallujah because like Fallujah, the media is not reporting any Iraqi or American casualties.
The media is only showing the numbers on insurgents and detainees.
Brace yourself for the truth, Bushie lied and more soldiers died today.
November 6th, 2005 at 8:33 pmI’m shocked I tell you! SHOCKED. You mean….they LIED?
November 6th, 2005 at 9:23 pmOh my god, I can’t believe it.
#43, you forgot the bit about using depleted uranium and the successor to napalm in Fallujah, in contradiction of weapons provisions the US supposedly signed up to. Depleted Uranium, the WMD that keeps on killing.
November 6th, 2005 at 10:44 pm#55, TTT, Why is no one talking about the DU in Iraq? I read about this more than a year ago (Seymour Hersh?) but no one talks about it.
November 6th, 2005 at 11:46 pmThe failure of the press is astonishing.
http://www.AlGoreLabs.com
“Yes, I could get my Sleepytime Herbal Green Tea Infuser at Amazon, but until that Sharper Image dweeb or I invent a Star Trek transporter, there’s only so much you can get over the net, legally. Recently I discovered the concept of a strip mall. Now before you get all bent out of shape, it isn’t what I first thought. Damn. So this strip mall around the corner has a nail salon that I go to for my pedicures (Tuesday’s special $5 off!). Today I just noticed that they also wax and shave! Who needs Tipper to shave my back hair! :) I’m freeee! Wheee! No more breakfast in bed for her! Get your own grape nuts, woman! Bwahaha!â€
— President Al Gore
November 7th, 2005 at 2:33 amhttp://www.AlGoreLabs.com
[...] Kristol calls it “slander,” but it looks like he spoke too soon. The next day, the New York Times reported on an al Qaeda official in U.S. custody, who was, according to a February 2002 report, “intentionally misleading the debriefers.” Months after the report, the administration continued to use his evidence as “credible.” [...]
November 7th, 2005 at 3:14 pmI just have to wonder about the reports that the REST OF THE WORLD IS HEARING FROM THE MEDIA about chemical weapons and DU being used in Iraq.
Thanks to the REPUGnican controlled so called “liberal media” here in the USA, we don’t hear the REAL NEWS AND FACTS.
Thanks be to FSTV! and the internet!
Hell, if Hitler had KKKarl Rove on his side, the Holocaust would not have made Faux news!!!!!!
PULL THE PULG ON FAUX NEWS!
Fair and balanced, my AZZ!
“WE DISTORT, you decide”
November 8th, 2005 at 2:22 am“Advice from the 16th century to George W. Bush on the Iraqi ‘dissidents’
feeding the war party in Washington. This same advice would have saved
JFK a lot of grief in 1961 at the Bay of Pigs.
“We see, then, how vain the faith and promises of men who are exiles
from their own country. As to their faith, we have to bear in mind that,
whenever they can return to their own country by other means than your
assistance, they will abandon you and look to the other means,
regardless of their promises to you. And as to their vain hopes and
promises, such is their extreme desire to return to their homes that
they naturally believe many things that are not true, and add many
others on purpose; so that, with what they really believe and what they
say they believe, they will fill you with hopes to that degree that if
you attempt to act upon them you will incur a fruitless expense, or
engage in an undertaking that will involve you in ruin….A prince
therefore should be slow in undertaking any enterprise upon the
representations of exiles, for he will generally gain nothing by it but
shame and serious injury.”
— Machiavelli, The Discourses (1531), chapter 32
Some people never learn, and we all pay the cost of their ignorance.
November 9th, 2005 at 9:57 amWhy should anyone be surprised that BushCo is full of liars… with Bush the biggest of them all. I hope to see the whole lot of them in prison one day.
November 10th, 2005 at 3:07 amBush said we are at war because of 9/11 justifying the invasion of Iraq. The truth is that he wanted to invade Iraq as soon as he became president. Cheney leaks stories about WMD to a New York Times reporter and then goes on T.V. claiming that the Times says there is WMD there. None of them would survive a trial at the Hague
November 16th, 2005 at 9:03 pm