Novak Debunks Himself
Novak Debunks Himself
Kate Michelman revealed that a Pennsylvania spousal notification requirement ruled constitutional by Judge Alito required her to seek notification from her husband who had abandoned her before having an abortion. From the 11/3 edition of NPR’s All Things Considered:
The state forced me to obtain permission from the man that deserted me and my three daughters.
Robert Novak devoted an entire column this morning to debunking Michelman’s claim:
[Michelman] raised the prospect of women chasing after a deserting spouse, desperately trying to find him in order to fulfill notification requirements. In fact, the Pennsylvania law in question would have exempted Michelman from spousal notification in such a situation.
But Novak debunks his own argument in paragraph 6:
As an abortion-seeking woman searching for the husband who has abandoned her, she would only have had to provide a signed (not notarized) statement that “her spouse, after diligent effort, could not be located.“
The law, as cited by Novak, requires a woman to make a “diligent effort” to locate her husband, even if he abandoned her. That’s what Michelman had to do. Novak spends an entire column attacking her for sharing her story.
Novak notes that Michelman could have, in the alternative, signed a statement saying that after “diligent effort” she couldn’t locate her husband. He emphasizes that that the statement wouldn’t have had to be notarized. The message, it seems, is that this is nothing a woman can’t get around by lying.
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Thanks, Judd. Once again, we have a conservative who believes that lying on a government-required form is perfectly acceptable behavior. He should retire so he can spend all his time drinking fresh puppy blood (thank you Jon Stewart, TDS.)
November 7th, 2005 at 9:24 amNovak is suffering from old age and stress disorder in part from having been called before the spec. pros. for his exposing a CIA operative. He has been a waterboy for his party for so long he can’t write without contradiction — he is an old fool who has lost his credibility.
November 7th, 2005 at 9:28 ama little touch of Alzheimer’s, Novakula? Perhaps just in the nick of time for the aging flak, what with revelations (and indictments) yet to come…
November 7th, 2005 at 9:28 amRemember, this crowd considers perjury a “technicality.”
So, in their mind, a false declaration of “diligent” would be perfectly okay.
Besides, safe to say she was po’ and those people only count as half a citizen anyway.
I despise Novak.
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November 7th, 2005 at 9:30 amNovak should retire and go count his easely aquire blood money .
November 7th, 2005 at 9:32 amMarie,
I’m not all that certain that Novak ever HAD any credibility. If you happen to be old enough to remember those days, there was a time when Novak used to write a column with a someone named Rowland Evans. Together they formed the team of Evans & Novak. (They even had a show on PBS, of all places.) But, because of their propensity for ideology over accuracy, they became known around Washington DC as “Errors and No Facts.” So I’m not entirely sure he had any credibility to lose.
I have noticed how slightly less shrill CNN is since they kicked his sorry butt of the air. I just wish they would complete the job and outright fire him (assuming they haven’t secretly done that already.)
I simply can’t imagine a world without Novak being anything but better.
November 7th, 2005 at 9:33 amThat sucks guys. If only you had the power to stop Alito. You don’t. AND if you try to fight him, you’ll never get it.
Face it, as much as Americans are angry at Bush, they will never side with the babykilling left on the Court. They hate you.
November 7th, 2005 at 9:35 amol ‘hate filled’ novak, he is a reporter. His opinions should be kept to himself as he is just a republican mouth piece. Oh, btw, he wants to DO AWAY with Social Security, as he ADMITTED on Crossfire and I saw it. With his ‘blood money’ I guess he’ll never need it.
November 7th, 2005 at 9:37 amWe should just let Robert Novak dissapear into an irrelevant abyss. Who really gives a shit what he says anyway. He is simply seeking relevance again and we shouldn’t provide him any.
November 7th, 2005 at 9:40 am#7 I don’t disagree with that, NED, because the right is filled with hatred. That’s all they seem to know how to do is hate, hate, hate.
But, it’s a free country, and you’re just as entitled to your misguided views as we are to our fact-based beliefs.
But you know something? I will still defend with my life your right to say those hate-filled things. I just don’t want them to become the basis our our legal system.
November 7th, 2005 at 9:40 amCorrection: That last sentence fragment should read “the basis of our legal system.” But I’m sure those of you with an IQ in the three-digit range already figured that out. :) – WAS
November 7th, 2005 at 9:46 am“The message, it seems, is that this is nothing a woman can’t get around by lying.”
Of course, lying is what the repugs do regularly so naturally they just assume that lying is what everyone should do.
November 7th, 2005 at 9:49 am#7 – NeD: “Americans are angry at Bush” …
Wow… our good friend NeD is undergoing enlightenment in front of our very eyes …
Novak didn’t contradict himself. He’s just genuinely surprised why the woman couldn’t just sign a false statement. There’s an insight into how right-wingers think.
November 7th, 2005 at 9:49 am#6, Wayne, I don’t remember that early Novak show — thanks for the info. It certainly does add to the case that Novak’s credibility was always questionable. Unscrupulous and now an old has-been. These guys never know when to retire.
November 7th, 2005 at 9:54 am35% of Americans are angry and pathetic like NED.
November 7th, 2005 at 9:54 amYes – DF. But, they don’t want to re-fight the reasons for war. They know Democrats are lying cowards who couldn’t stand up to Bush. No one was lied to. You know that and it bothers you.
#10 – we hate liberals as much as they hate us. Don’t blame me for the discourse. It was the left who started this and it will be the right who finishes.
November 7th, 2005 at 9:55 amNovak is a decripit old ass. He would not even have a column if he was not part owner of the newspaper.
November 7th, 2005 at 9:56 am#16 I don’t “hate” you, NED. I just think you need help. I have a hunch that you have come by your beliefs because, at some point in your life, you were taught things that were untrue. I encourage you to read and learn and with any luck, the truth will begin to make sense to you.
November 7th, 2005 at 9:59 amHow did “Novak’s Debunks Himself”? I don’t see anything in here where he urges anyone to lie…he seems to be pointing out the non-burdensome nature of the exceptions to this law.
And the fact that Ms. Michelman left out these exceptions to being, “…forced [] to obtain permission…”, the fact that she apparently did NOT, according to the law, have to obtain any such “permission”, contrary to what she reported….you don’t see her as being “debunked” at all, right? You don’t have a problem with her apparently misrepresenting the provisions of this law to make her point?
November 7th, 2005 at 9:59 am#16 nobody was lied to? You’re clearly in denial!!! Clearly you haven’t read some posts here and at other sites like this: http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/06/cheney-source-recanted/ because you can’t process the fact that Bush + Co have misled this country in order to funnel massive amounts of YOUR money (you pay your taxes right?) to their FRIENDS!
November 7th, 2005 at 10:00 am#20 – Democrats were NOT lied to. They were spouting the same thing Bush was.
If you re-fight the reasons for war, you lose. Plain and simple.
November 7th, 2005 at 10:05 amNovak is a tool, and a heartless one at that. He’s the Right Wing hitman disguised as a hitman and he is proving that again with this column.
#21- you dont catch the news much do you? If the dems werent lied for, why was the administration peddling intelligence they knew to be false like the forged Niger documents and the now debunked myth that Saddam was working with AQ- that was in this weekends news cycle? Why did Cheney and Libby withhold key evidence from the Congress immediately prior to the authorization for war?
There is a difference between saddam being a “threat” and saddam being such a threat that Iraq needed to be invaded in violation of established international law. If you dont see the difference in the above, you should turn off Fox News.
November 7th, 2005 at 10:13 amExactly. Novak is saying that Alito’s position is being misinterpreted because you don’t have to follow the law as long as you are willing to lie to the legal system.
Hmmm…interesting defense the right-wingers have. Having you rights and privacy taken away by extreme right-wing judges is perfectly fine because if you lie you don’t have any problems.
That’s like saying laws FOR torture don’t hurt anybody as long as you are willing to lie about never torturing anybody.
November 7th, 2005 at 10:18 amNovak’s suffering from a bit of the old-timers disease.
November 7th, 2005 at 10:18 am#22 – was Clinton a liar?
November 7th, 2005 at 10:19 am#25 Yes, NED. President Clinton lied under oath, paid a fine for it and was forced to give up his law license for a number of years.
But the most important thing to remember about that is this: NOBODY died because of it.
Now, will you stop bringing up President Clinton as some kind of excuse to support your views? It has absolutely no relevance to the current discussion.
Thank you. And keep those (often funny) cards and letters coming. Your posts are, if nothing else, entertaining.
November 7th, 2005 at 10:23 amNovak is an ass. #25 – that’s the best you’ve got? Go back to sheep school – that one is WAY out of date. Even Rush can’t make himself cough that hairball up anymore.
November 7th, 2005 at 10:26 amThe Bush administration cherrypicked the intel that made their case and they suppressed the intel that may have posed a threat to their rush to war. All anyone has to do is read up on the OSP and the WHIG to prove this case. If the Democrats were aware of the degree to which the administration was subverting dissenting opinion in the CIA, the international community and from the military leadership that warned them against invading Iraq, then they are just as guilty and they should be held accountable as well. Any elected official in D.C. that new that the case for war was weak and yet still supported it lacks the requisite courage that their position demands. Whether they are Democrats or Republicans, political expediency as a substitute for the truth in matters of war and peace is a crime. Those that knew the whole truth and did nothing to call attention to the facts that may have hurt the case for war are complicit war criminals. End of story.
If this means that Hillary Clinton, John Kerry and Joe Biden must be held accountable, so be it. I’m tired of these clowns vascillating on Iraq. Kids are getting blown to pieces every fu&*ing day, do what it takes to end this mess. If it’s going to take the Senators that had to balls and the sense to vote against the war in the first place to step up and exert themselves because they’re in a better position than they need to do it, with authority. Simply stating that they didn’t vote for the war isn’t enough, they have to DO SOMETHING about it and do it fast.
November 7th, 2005 at 10:29 am#16 – NeD: Sorry buddy, we don’t hate conservatives as much as you hate us. You’ve staked claim to “hate” throughout history, so it’s all yours.
OK let me talk to you in logic that you would understand: I see you’ve caught on to the “But Dems thought there were WMD too” talking point. But you want Repubs to have sole credit for the Iraq invasion which you glorify so much. You can’t have it both ways, buddy.
November 7th, 2005 at 10:31 am#28 Good point, Jay. I have decided to start demanding that my Senators (Sens. Schumer and Clinton) start calling for an exit strategy from this administration that brings our troops home before any more of them die needlessly. (I doubt that my Republican Congressman would listen.)
After all, “Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is.” Now who said that? Oh yeah. George W. Bush in 1999.
November 7th, 2005 at 10:39 amIt’s interesting in a post about Novak, all the right-wingers can say is “Clinton was a liar.” What’s that have to do with anything. Stay on topic!
November 7th, 2005 at 11:25 amNED,
#16, how about Sen. Max Cleland of Georgia? He’s a democrat do you consider him a “lying coward” as well?
“Only those who slavishly worship success can think that effectiveness is admirable without regard to what is affected.” – Bertrand Russell
November 7th, 2005 at 11:53 amThe new Yellowphant talking point is that Clinton said Saddam was a threat, therefore Clinton advocated invasion.
And good point, Yellowphants were demanding all the credit and glory when they thought the Iraq war had gone well, but now that it isn’t, they want to share the blame with everybody.
Also, Novak is a douchebag.
November 7th, 2005 at 11:59 am#33 Also, Novak is a douchebag.
Oh, yeah. Big time. Big time.
November 7th, 2005 at 12:03 pmNovak is a republican shill… it never ocurred to him that there might be something morally and ethically wrong with lying.
If you approached him with that questions it would only confuse him.
November 7th, 2005 at 12:16 pmGo ahead lie about trying to find your husband and when he finds out he has you charged with the murder of his unborn child. There ya go girls.
Why not just be more careful who you marry and who knocks you up? Problem solved.
November 7th, 2005 at 12:22 pm#36 Novak would call it “bullshit” and storm off angrily. So much anger. So much hostility. See what being conservative gets you? You can only keep the hate going for so long and then you implode. I was pissed that he walked off the set on his last CNN appearance. I was looking forward to him answering questions about his own role in the CIA leak investigation. But this isn’t about that…
It’s about the propensity for conservatives to use lies, distortions, deceit and misinformation to “win” arguments. I guess they forgot the commandment that says, “Thou shalt not bear false witness.” Must have been just a little too inconvenient for them.
November 7th, 2005 at 12:25 pm#19 – tomaig – I strongly suggest you re-read what the law and what Michelman said. She was required to perform a diligent effort to gain permission from her lord and master husband (ok, the lord and master part is my interpretation of right wingers fantasies for themselves) despite the fact that he was the worst sort of cowardly man that abandoned his family. The concept itself is ludicrous, the requirement inherently intrusive and unfair, and Michelman represented the facts correctly. Novak on the other hand, like the bush administration and it’s supporters, apparently thinks nothing of lying and being deceitful in legal proceedings.
November 7th, 2005 at 12:26 pmBad enough for Novak that Jon Stewart destroyed his show Crossfire. Now he’s more grouchy enough to walk off the air during a screaming match and cuss on live tv.
Sen. Vinick has more charm than Novak, and HE’S A FICTIONAL CHARACTER ON THE WEST WING.
Fiction. That defines the inner thinkings of the ChimpBush Administration.
November 7th, 2005 at 12:28 pmGood point rightie. Any ex-husband who really wants to stick it to the ol’ bag could just knock her up one last time and skip the country for nine months. Come back and if there’s no baby, haul her fat ass off to jail. Brilliant! That’s even better for fighting over custody of children you don’t want just to hurt her.
I hope you’re all looking forward to the day when every miscarriage is treated as a potential crime scene. Think about that.
November 7th, 2005 at 12:29 pmSo strange; that whenever Ned’s getting his butt kicked, suddenly IRI pops up. Coincidence or cowardice?
November 7th, 2005 at 12:32 pmHey, Ned, unrelated question, when do you believe life begins?
November 7th, 2005 at 12:49 pm#37 I-Right-I… so are you saying that it is all the woman’s fault that some men turn out to be shmucks? Is it therefore the wife’s fault when her husband beats her? Or rape victims faults when the rapist rapes her? That seems to be the logic path you are following there.
November 7th, 2005 at 1:04 pmAlito’s opinion in the case said as much, didn’t it? He asserted that there was no harm in requiring spousal permission because there were so few women affected by such a requirement, and that they would very easily be able to circumvent the law by fabricating evidence of permission.
By all means let’s get him on the highest Court in the land. He’s so moderate, temperate, and respectful of the law. Not.
November 7th, 2005 at 1:32 pmNeD is to be marginalized. He has run out of talking points and now just spouts the lies he wishes were true.
Clinton did everything and Bush is a god. Right NeD? Isn’t that about all you got?
NeD knows he is in the TINY minority now that the truth is coming out. He see the polls that show dems ahead of EVERY SINGLE ISSUE, including their swansong – terrorism. He sees that most would rather rely on dems to protect them. He is now hemmoraging and can’t stop the flow with mere rhetoric. NeD knows this, but is too young and not man enough to admit failure.
He will say he doesn’t care about polls or believe them. But, that too is a lie. NeD thinks typing this misinformation over and over it will somehow make it true. Or, he just posts crazy shit to make us mad. There is a certain kind of evil that delights when others feel pain or unrest.
November 7th, 2005 at 1:32 pm#37 – You think you have any influence here? Wrong
November 7th, 2005 at 1:33 pmAndrew,
To be enlightened by IRI’s views, follow the following link and start at post #129. Then you will understand his views on abortion, women, etc…
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/02/secret-prison-system/#comments
November 7th, 2005 at 1:53 pmNovaks emphasis on the fact that the statement did not have to be notarized is downright bizarre. Here is a short explanation of notarization from an attorney: Notarization has nothing to do with a statement being, or not being, under penalty of perjury. The purpose of notarization is simply to insure that the person the person signing the statement is really who she/he claims to be. All it takes is $10 and a drivers license or other identification (or a notary who personally knows you) to have anything notarized. You can notarize the check to your utility company if you wanted to do so. By having something notarized you are not asserting that the contents are true, only that it was really you who signed it. In any event, it is difficult to figure out why the fact that the statement does not have to be notarized has anything to do with anything.
November 7th, 2005 at 1:54 pm#49 – It is truly beautiful to serve their words back to them. Unlike their kind, we do remember. Good work, CfC. Another marginalized troll put where it belongs.
November 7th, 2005 at 1:57 pmCatalyst – oh my dear lord, that is frightening. I wonder what the folks who gave me my Phi Beta Kappa membership would say if they knew that I f-e-e-l and don’t think?
Thank you for the link. It’s sort of like watching a car crash, isn’t it? It’s so horrible, and yet it’s so hard to look away.
November 7th, 2005 at 2:13 pmJust doing my part to insure IRI posts are viewed with the appropriate context. Plus, I promised IRI that he will be used as an example from now on and I mean’t it!
November 7th, 2005 at 2:15 pmI-RIGHT-I on foreigners, religious & ethnic minorities:
Hey, what does a Mexcian (sic) know about ethics anyway?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — September 25, 2005 @ 12:41 pm
In my experience what passes for common knowledge in Europe most often doesn’t even pass the common sense test here in America. I’m pretty sure about 46% of those people believe George Bush ordered the 9-11 disaster and that Carl Rove has a tail.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — September 25, 2005 @ 7:38 am
The fact is most of the jobs in the Blue States can be done cheaper by India. What? You think we’ve been educating those heathen just because we like curry?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — November 4, 2005 @ 8:58 pm
In any case, why would any American be concerned what a bunch of residents of third world shit-holes think about anything? What is it exactly they have to offer other than illegal immigrants? If Bush and America is so bad why don’t they stay home?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — November 7, 2005 @ 9:04 am
I guess that explains the length (sic) of your memory then doesn’t it? HA! In fact that explains a lot of things. Is there anything else I should know? Like are you a Jewish lesbian or something?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — September 30, 2005 @ 6:00 pm
The Bell Curve is an uncomfortable fact of life. No matter what side, above or below you find yourself you know it’s a fact. Deal with it. If you happen to be Black, work harder. Even the people in the 95 percentile don’t get a free ride. Just ax me, I’ll tell ya.
November 7th, 2005 at 2:47 pmComment by I-RIGHT-I — September 30, 2005 @ 9:50 pm
I-RIGHT-I on sex & women:
If the best you can do is string together my quotes to make stupid little lies then I’d say you’re whipped. You must have learned that in Semenary. HA! Semen..get it?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — October 2, 2005 @ 12:37 pm
We need more women in the kitchen cooking dinner. Oh, we don’t want to control everything….WE DO ALREADY. Get used to it loser.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — November 1, 2005 @ 2:47 pm
It’s hard to believe you’re female. It’s thinking like this that earns you the title of “The Filthy Leftâ€. Hey…here’s a novel idea ladies…..keep your legs together and don’t get pregnant! Just Say No!
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — October 31, 2005 @ 4:46 pm
Why not just be more careful who you marry and who knocks you up? Problem solved.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — November 7, 2005 @ 12:22 pm
I guess that explains the lenght of your memory then doesn’t it? HA! In fact that explains a lot of things. Is there anything else I should know? Like are you a Jewish lesbian or something?
November 7th, 2005 at 2:47 pmComment by I-RIGHT-I — September 30, 2005 @ 6:00 pm
I-RIGHT-I on democracy, civic values, & dissent:
If it were my republic you wouldn’t get to vote at all unless you were male and had a vested interest in the country. That means if you actually produced something besides treasonous rhetoric.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — November 2, 2005 @ 5:09 pm
War is hell and if you’re going to win you’ve got to bring it to the enemy. If you don’t like it, move to Kanaduh.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — November 2, 2005 @ 10:49 am
Just a thought….what are you commieratbastard mofo’s (sic) going to do when we finally have enough and start coming after you?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — November 2, 2005 @ 3:39 pm
I’d be willing to bet your this year’s salary that every little fringe group that makes up the backbone of the Democratic party these days has some degree of mental illness. The homo’s, the tree huggers, the feminists, the communists, the Hollywood narcissists, the academic underachievers teaching school instead of making a good living in the open market. You all hate normality but you need something else to focus on. Right now it’s George Bush. Who will be the next scapegoat for your self loathing?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — September 26, 2005 @ 7:09 pm
Dear Lord, how I love you guys. It’s really too easy. How much would it cost to get you to renounce your US citizenship and move to Kanaduh?
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — September 4, 2005 @ 7:15 pm
There’s nothing wrong with the South that a few thousand dangling from the nearest light pole Leftists wouldn’t cure.
November 7th, 2005 at 2:48 pmComment by I-RIGHT-I — September 4, 2005 @ 1:08 pm
… #54 , #55 , #56 – Oh , Greg , Thank You !!! That was BEAUTIFUL !!! When neoconnie trolls have their own BILE brought back home to them , LIE by LIE , with dates and times , they squeal just like the lil’ piggies they ARE ! Ah , it’s funnier than Faux News ! … ;)
November 7th, 2005 at 3:03 pmKarl Rove doesn’t have a tail?
November 7th, 2005 at 3:25 pmOooh, fun. I like the part where he says that the Far Wrong already controls everything and then says they’re going to get fed up and revolt. Against what? The power you already have?
November 7th, 2005 at 3:26 pmGreat job guys! Perhaps we should start to save these posts to use everytime NED, Mighty Aphrodite, etc.. start their usual rhetoric. That way, new readers of the site will have an accurate perpective of the various trolls on these boards. Should be interesting…
November 7th, 2005 at 3:31 pmWow. IRI is a complete idiot. Sounds like the standard run of the mill troll you find on a lot of sites. Every once in awhile a troll comes along that can actually sustain an intellectual argument for more than three posts in a row before turning into a blithering blathering idiot like the rest of them do from the first post. I keep waiting for an intelligent one right winger to come along and debate issues but I’ve yet to come across one that wouldn’t be crushed in debate by my 9 year old granddaughter.
November 7th, 2005 at 3:50 pmThe only person Judd “de-bunks” with his shoddy evidence is: Kate Michelman and JUDD. To suggest that Novak tells a woman to lie is nowhere to be found. Isn’t the term diligent effort sujective?? Does it mean 38 phone calls and 2 private detectives?? Does it mean 6 newspaper ads in six major cities!????! This site just goes to show why the political positions you espouse are not winning elections. Petty, partisan and puny would describe your party.
November 7th, 2005 at 4:00 pmIt is a stretch to make the connection(since he doesn’t LITERALLY say it), but then again, this is Novack were talking about and he doesn’t exactly take responsibility for the things he says or implies. Not exactly a symbol of integrity is he? This appears to be more of an attack on Novack then anything else and he deserves such critism. This is the same guy who assisted in the outing of Valerie Wilson afterall.
November 7th, 2005 at 5:13 pm#63- Novak is the guy that exposed the disingenuous nature of former ambassador Joe Wilson (the emissary NOT sent by Dick Cheney’s office).
November 7th, 2005 at 5:19 pmHermaphrodite, you’re still WRONG. How many times do people have to remind you that “the Vice President’s office asked the CIA” to send someone to check out the rumor about the uranium. Get with the freaking program or shut up.
November 7th, 2005 at 6:15 pmJane. I’m heaing three different versions – your source wouldn’t be “The Nation” or NPR, would it??
November 7th, 2005 at 6:49 pmHermaphrodite, Not only was Novak Debunked, so was your smear on Wilson. I already debunked that in an earlier thread. I know you’re stupid and retarded, but try to keep up. Clearly you were a case of ’social promotion’, it’s not possible you graduated school on your own merits.
November 7th, 2005 at 7:01 pmHermaphrodite: No, from Ambassador Wilson’s original op-ed piece and from his book.
Ditto what Ryan said.
November 7th, 2005 at 7:04 pmJane – Ohhhhhhhh , heh,heh – those “sources” are credible and easily verified. WOW!!! What an intelligent and “critical thinker” you are!!!!!! (Not to mention, “original” – no one has called me Hermaphrodite since RyANNie, Susan, Sponge, etc. ad nauseum – do you always make fun of the sexually deformed?) Did you put Wilson’s self-serving tome and “op-ed” piece through a lie detector???? You are soooo smart, you probably get all of your “news” from BBC and NPR. Are you a “Millenium Member”?
November 7th, 2005 at 7:54 pmJane – did you share your “sources” with remedial RyANNie???Tooo funny!!!!
November 7th, 2005 at 8:03 pmMightyDyke,
You write like e.e. cummings on crack, and you accuse others of not having critical thinking. Bahahah, that’s the height of irony…
And if you think I’m ‘remedial’, then I’ve done my job, because to a short bus retard like you, that’s as good is it clearly gets…
November 7th, 2005 at 8:13 pmMightyDyke,
I guess you didn’t read the Senate Report which concluded that Wilson’s report was consistent with the expectations of the CIA intelligence. Clearly in those 12 years of military experience that beat out the part of your brain that’s capable of fact checking.
You’re such a retard, that HO mother of yours really wasted her money on your education. Where did you go to school, the “sisters of perpetual DUHHHH!”
November 7th, 2005 at 8:15 pmRy ANNie – Are you always so redundant? e.e. cummings – let’s hear something a bit more original. While I digress to the topic of authors, you remind me of that “blame rascist Amerikkka for everything”, bell hooks. – I guess her radical lesbianism appeals to you.) On topic: you missed that part in the report where the evidence was found to be so obscure that Wilson could not say definitively if Iraq had attempted to purchase “yellowcake” or not. The cowards on the left must enjoy “yellow cake” the most. You must have a real animosity toward your own mother – I don’t see much “fatherly” influence in your arguments. Was she too busy for you (or was she hoping for a boy). Perhaps this is teenage girl rebellion?
November 7th, 2005 at 8:35 pmJane, What do you mean by getting news from nefarious sources like the people who actually know something?
November 7th, 2005 at 8:50 pmMA gets her news from Fox, which, as we all know, is the only source of fair and balanced reporting — along with the Mehlman RNC Talking Points.
Marie – leave it to you to rely on gov’t funded BBC and NPR. Gullible!!!!
November 7th, 2005 at 8:54 pm#75, you know nothing about the BBC, they have been hostile to every British government in living memory.
November 7th, 2005 at 11:24 pmI believe it is called ‘objectivity’ look it up. Also ’speaking truth to power’ a concept you might look up too, if you can find your way to an independent thought.
November 7th, 2005 at 11:28 pmHey Mighty Mouse,
Do you want to correspond via e-mail? My address is thewitchnextdoor at gmail. Excerpts would get published on my site.
Do you trust this government? (Because distrusting a Senate report makes you seem awfully distrustful of the government’s current folks. Perhaps we have more in common than you think!)
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