Yea, what this isn’t saying is that he thinks the basis for Roe v Wade, the Griswald(?) vs CT was wrong. That is that adult married people have the right to privacy and can legally obtain contraceptives. So conservatives get a 2fer on this. They can over-rule Roe v Wade, negating the legalizing of abortion on the federal level & they can over-rule the “privacy” doctrine making certain contraceptives also not legally OK on the federal level.
As a caveat to “strict constitutionalists”, which most of you righties ARE NOT, the constitution does not address the issue of privacy, contraception, abortion, digital anything, medical marijuana, the use of torture. SOme of the amendments do, but their interpretation is fluid. I mean, look what Cheney is trying to peddle (OKing CIA torture) under the guise of national security.
The blatant racial slur by Murphy against Justice Thomas was enough to seal the matter for me. I don’t particularly agree with Thomas, Scalia. or Alito. Murphy should be chastized and Alito disqualified for that statement alone.
One question I have, reverting to my usual cynical self, is if a woman has to have her husband’s permission for a divorce what role does the father of the fetus have if he is different from the husband?
I love how Prof. Murphy basically calls Clarence Thomas an idiot. “Their IQs are so radically different … We’re not talking about someone in Sam’s intellectual league.”
Ruth Bader Ginsburg has made similar comments on Roe. It is not really indicative of how they would vote. Any honest constitutional scholar will tell you Roe is bad law. That said, Alito is probably anti-Roe. But, I don’t think the Court will seek to overturn Roe the second he is seated.
No just the first case it comes up. That’s the point. & Roe is over-rated as far as why some of us don’t want Alioto seated on the court. It’s his philosophy that I don’t buy, hence, I am against him being a SCOTUS.
Apparantly NED is an honest constitutional scholar! Wow I’m impressed NED. NED as dissed anyone for Roe vs Wade as being dishonest and not a constitutional scholar. Good stroke NED. Now keep stroking. The only reasons for banning abortion are biblical.
NED, You’ve shown yourself to be incapable judging honesty, let along scholarly honesty! LOL
Ryan, are you saying they should be careful of what they wish for? If it coems back to the states, so be it – I live in NY. Things will always have a liberal lean here. Let’em stewe with what they choose!
That’s part of what I’m saying… Karma is a nasty mistress, and the religious red states will pay the real price.
Unfortunately the real target for this judgeship is to overturn all of the federal corporate regulations, epa and entitlement programs. And unfortunately those changes would affect both blue and red states tremendously! The ‘corporate masters’ who buy up the politicians are behind this new set of ‘federalist society’ judges, and abortion is the ruse for the rubes.
And it gets worse. Once installed, these fascist judges will prevent the ‘majority’ of laws passed by the democratic leadership that will likely happen for the next 20 years are stricken down. The best we can hope for is that bird flu kills of the old republican hateful geezers, because rest assured they’ll rule american down a banana republican toilet!
You know, I’ve thought about that – What kind of America do they really want to see? Theocracy, nah – That goes agaist the grain of the capitalist baron, doesn’t it? Old people and children living in poverty? Can’t see how any leader (elected) would want that – it goes against the grain of humanity. What does rolling back entitlements really do? Leave more money for nation building? More for pork? Don’t these folks realize they’ll be thrown out of office?
Ryan – that’s sick. But, what’s worse, it’s misinformed. The eldest members on the Court are ardent liberals. Hope they don’t kick off before Bushie leaves???
As when we talk about majority – nearly 70% does not want gay marriage, yet liberals are fighting to get the Courts to grant it. The left is the one out of touch on the Courts.
Didn’t you know that 70% of republicans still don’t want blacks to have the right to vote, that’s why the use voter suppression among blacks in every election.
Republicans always love the polls when it supports their desire to restrict civil liberties, but hate it when it disagrees with them. It’s really sad to watch.
And NED, you’re the sicko that preaches torture and violence, your ‘judgement’ is pretty irrelevant.
The nation is pretty split on this issue, and your lie of a ‘clear majority’ is just that, another lie.
“50 percent of respondents said they opposed recognizing same-sex marriages from Massachusetts ”as legal in all 50 states,” and 46 percent favored it. The respondents also said they disapproved of ”gay and lesbian couples being allowed to get married” by 50 percent to 37 percent.”
okay, first of all theres always going to be drug users and abusers and there will be things we can do to reduce some of them and others will just keep on using.
The most we can do is legalize all illegal substances(drugs) because it’ll reduce the crime (i.e stealing and robberies) and jails wont be so filled up.
Also, the amount of drug dealers will greatly decrease because with drugs being legal they wont have to sneak the drugs to sell them and wont get caught and sent to jail where in a number of years theyll get out and be doing the same thing over and over again.
I say if people want the chance to do drugs then let them. its their bodies and minds, and if thats how they wanna spend their lives (always getting high) then let them. cuz theres always gonna be people that wont stop no matter what!
I wonder if he thinks Bush v. Gore 2000 was wrongly decided then as well.
November 8th, 2005 at 9:35 amGood. Maybe he’ll overturn it so we can go ahead and have the revolution. 2 Americas. It’s already started. Let’s finish.
November 8th, 2005 at 9:51 amYou’re too quick for me, Andy. Right on.
November 8th, 2005 at 9:55 amYea, what this isn’t saying is that he thinks the basis for Roe v Wade, the Griswald(?) vs CT was wrong. That is that adult married people have the right to privacy and can legally obtain contraceptives. So conservatives get a 2fer on this. They can over-rule Roe v Wade, negating the legalizing of abortion on the federal level & they can over-rule the “privacy” doctrine making certain contraceptives also not legally OK on the federal level.
As a caveat to “strict constitutionalists”, which most of you righties ARE NOT, the constitution does not address the issue of privacy, contraception, abortion, digital anything, medical marijuana, the use of torture. SOme of the amendments do, but their interpretation is fluid. I mean, look what Cheney is trying to peddle (OKing CIA torture) under the guise of national security.
Let the flaming begin.
November 8th, 2005 at 10:15 amThe blatant racial slur by Murphy against Justice Thomas was enough to seal the matter for me. I don’t particularly agree with Thomas, Scalia. or Alito. Murphy should be chastized and Alito disqualified for that statement alone.
One question I have, reverting to my usual cynical self, is if a woman has to have her husband’s permission for a divorce what role does the father of the fetus have if he is different from the husband?
November 8th, 2005 at 10:29 amI love how Prof. Murphy basically calls Clarence Thomas an idiot. “Their IQs are so radically different … We’re not talking about someone in Sam’s intellectual league.”
November 8th, 2005 at 10:30 amI goofed on #5. After “Alito” in the second sentence I had “but the Supreme Court is no place for bigotry” which seems to have disappeared.
November 8th, 2005 at 10:33 amRuth Bader Ginsburg has made similar comments on Roe. It is not really indicative of how they would vote. Any honest constitutional scholar will tell you Roe is bad law. That said, Alito is probably anti-Roe. But, I don’t think the Court will seek to overturn Roe the second he is seated.
November 8th, 2005 at 10:42 amNo just the first case it comes up. That’s the point. & Roe is over-rated as far as why some of us don’t want Alioto seated on the court. It’s his philosophy that I don’t buy, hence, I am against him being a SCOTUS.
See NED, you can talk to those here.
November 8th, 2005 at 11:26 amApparantly NED is an honest constitutional scholar! Wow I’m impressed NED. NED as dissed anyone for Roe vs Wade as being dishonest and not a constitutional scholar. Good stroke NED. Now keep stroking. The only reasons for banning abortion are biblical.
NED, You’ve shown yourself to be incapable judging honesty, let along scholarly honesty! LOL
November 8th, 2005 at 11:26 amRyan, are you saying they should be careful of what they wish for? If it coems back to the states, so be it – I live in NY. Things will always have a liberal lean here. Let’em stewe with what they choose!
November 8th, 2005 at 12:22 pmNo activist judges – oh wait, that was yesterday’s troll rant. Ah, so soon they flip flop.
November 8th, 2005 at 12:39 pmLwordLover,
That’s part of what I’m saying… Karma is a nasty mistress, and the religious red states will pay the real price.
Unfortunately the real target for this judgeship is to overturn all of the federal corporate regulations, epa and entitlement programs. And unfortunately those changes would affect both blue and red states tremendously! The ‘corporate masters’ who buy up the politicians are behind this new set of ‘federalist society’ judges, and abortion is the ruse for the rubes.
November 8th, 2005 at 12:44 pmRyan,
November 8th, 2005 at 12:57 pmAgreed. I never really thought Vice or George gave a shit about abortion or gay marriage – just a ruse for the rube.
LwordLover,
And it gets worse. Once installed, these fascist judges will prevent the ‘majority’ of laws passed by the democratic leadership that will likely happen for the next 20 years are stricken down. The best we can hope for is that bird flu kills of the old republican hateful geezers, because rest assured they’ll rule american down a banana republican toilet!
November 8th, 2005 at 1:33 pmYou know, I’ve thought about that – What kind of America do they really want to see? Theocracy, nah – That goes agaist the grain of the capitalist baron, doesn’t it? Old people and children living in poverty? Can’t see how any leader (elected) would want that – it goes against the grain of humanity. What does rolling back entitlements really do? Leave more money for nation building? More for pork? Don’t these folks realize they’ll be thrown out of office?
November 8th, 2005 at 1:42 pmRyan – that’s sick. But, what’s worse, it’s misinformed. The eldest members on the Court are ardent liberals. Hope they don’t kick off before Bushie leaves???
As when we talk about majority – nearly 70% does not want gay marriage, yet liberals are fighting to get the Courts to grant it. The left is the one out of touch on the Courts.
November 8th, 2005 at 2:24 pmI bet at some point 70% of american’s didn’t want blacks to have the right to vote either, does that make it right? just asking…
November 8th, 2005 at 2:52 pmAndrew,
Didn’t you know that 70% of republicans still don’t want blacks to have the right to vote, that’s why the use voter suppression among blacks in every election.
Republicans always love the polls when it supports their desire to restrict civil liberties, but hate it when it disagrees with them. It’s really sad to watch.
And NED, you’re the sicko that preaches torture and violence, your ‘judgement’ is pretty irrelevant.
November 8th, 2005 at 3:09 pmNED,
Stop posting lies – you’re such a sicko.
The nation is pretty split on this issue, and your lie of a ‘clear majority’ is just that, another lie.
“50 percent of respondents said they opposed recognizing same-sex marriages from Massachusetts ”as legal in all 50 states,” and 46 percent favored it. The respondents also said they disapproved of ”gay and lesbian couples being allowed to get married” by 50 percent to 37 percent.”
November 8th, 2005 at 3:13 pmAnd NED,
Homophobia is a diagnosed clinical mental illness. You really should go seek professional help – you’re not a well little girl…
November 8th, 2005 at 4:06 pmokay, first of all theres always going to be drug users and abusers and there will be things we can do to reduce some of them and others will just keep on using.
The most we can do is legalize all illegal substances(drugs) because it’ll reduce the crime (i.e stealing and robberies) and jails wont be so filled up.
Also, the amount of drug dealers will greatly decrease because with drugs being legal they wont have to sneak the drugs to sell them and wont get caught and sent to jail where in a number of years theyll get out and be doing the same thing over and over again.
I say if people want the chance to do drugs then let them. its their bodies and minds, and if thats how they wanna spend their lives (always getting high) then let them. cuz theres always gonna be people that wont stop no matter what!
December 12th, 2005 at 8:50 am