Comments on: Right-Wing Pundits Support Cheney’s Torture Policy, Experts Don’t http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/ Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:49:08 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Dear Kitty. Some blog :: USA: Bush: ‘We Do Not Torture’. Yeah, right :: December :: 2006 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-1331175 Dear Kitty. Some blog :: USA: Bush: ‘We Do Not Torture’. Yeah, right :: December :: 2006 Tue, 26 Dec 2006 18:50:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-1331175 [...] The names and ranks of the five soldiers have not been made public. Cheney and torture: here. [...] [...] The names and ranks of the five soldiers have not been made public. Cheney and torture: here. [...]

]]> By: HighLander http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-243696 HighLander Wed, 23 Nov 2005 14:16:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-243696 Recently a DVD-disc was received in the mail. There was no return address and the postmark was from Nebraska. There was a yellow sticky note with, "W2 Archive," written on it in block print. The DVD-disc had 6 .AVI files that used the Sequential Logging System time-code. The contents of the video are shocking and disturbing. To assist in viewing, the video files were compiled together with black transitions between the sequences and the audio was boosted for clarity. Two short video clips are currently posted here as MPEGs. The viewing area is small for easy download. http://www.10641.com/ http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1748603366433355311&q=10641 Recently a DVD-disc was received in the mail. There was no return address and the postmark was from Nebraska. There was a yellow sticky note with, “W2 Archive,” written on it in block print. The DVD-disc had 6 .AVI files that used the Sequential Logging System time-code. The contents of the video are shocking and disturbing. To assist in viewing, the video files were compiled together with black transitions between the sequences and the audio was boosted for clarity. Two short video clips are currently posted here as MPEGs. The viewing area is small for easy download.

http://www.10641.com/
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1748603366433355311&q=10641

]]> By: The Deke http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-216236 The Deke Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:38:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-216236 I understand the objection to torture. What I fail to see in this conversation is a substantive alternative. How do any of you propose to get information from snipers and assasins who are not protected by the protocols set forth in the Geneva Convention? For people who are oppossed to war, you sure seem comfortable protecting those who kill and maim Americans. Why? I understand the objection to torture. What I fail to see in this conversation is a substantive alternative. How do any of you propose to get information from snipers and assasins who are not protected by the protocols set forth in the Geneva Convention? For people who are oppossed to war, you sure seem comfortable protecting those who kill and maim Americans. Why?

]]> By: WILLY http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-214943 WILLY Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:35:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-214943 LETS TORTURE CHENEY TO FIND OUT WHO ORDERED THE OUTING OF CIA AGENT PLAUME OR WHO CONCOCTED THE LIES THAT LED THE CONGRESS TO ALLOWING WAR FOR OIL PROFITS. ONLY A REPUBLICAN OIL MAN COULD DO THESE THINGS AND THINK HE IS ABOVE THE LAW. I SAY LETS PULL OUT HIS FINGERNAILS UNTIL HE ADMITS IT. LETS TORTURE CHENEY TO FIND OUT WHO ORDERED THE OUTING OF CIA AGENT PLAUME OR WHO CONCOCTED THE LIES THAT LED THE CONGRESS TO ALLOWING WAR FOR OIL PROFITS. ONLY A REPUBLICAN OIL MAN COULD DO THESE THINGS AND THINK HE IS ABOVE THE LAW. I SAY LETS PULL OUT HIS FINGERNAILS UNTIL HE ADMITS IT.

]]> By: Tank http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-214557 Tank Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:28:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-214557 Wow I haven't even been censored from LGF yet. Way to go Thinkprogress. Defend your right to refer to the newsworthyness of what Fox personalities have to say on matters of national security by deleting anyone who suggests theyre not. LMAO seriously I can't find this many reprints of Fox and Limbaugh on right-wing-christian millblogs. Karl Rove couldn't run a better joint. Wow I haven’t even been censored from LGF yet.
Way to go Thinkprogress. Defend your right to refer to the newsworthyness of what Fox personalities have to say on matters of national security by deleting anyone who suggests theyre not.

LMAO seriously I can’t find this many reprints of Fox and Limbaugh on right-wing-christian millblogs. Karl Rove couldn’t run a better joint.

]]> By: Glenn Bateman http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-213073 Glenn Bateman Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:30:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-213073 I do not understand why 'exemptions' are necessary. Remember that per this administration's interpretation: 'If it doesn't kill them or cause organ failure, it isn't torture...' Whoops, maybe they do want to do that... I do not understand why ‘exemptions’ are necessary. Remember that per this administration’s interpretation: ‘If it doesn’t kill them or cause organ failure, it isn’t torture…’ Whoops, maybe they do want to do that…

]]> By: liberal elite http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-212834 liberal elite Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:05:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-212834 If Goss and Cheney need to have the CIA torture people in order to protect the US, then they are obviously underqualified to perform their jobs. Throw 'em out. If Goss and Cheney need to have the CIA torture people in order to protect the US, then they are obviously underqualified to perform their jobs.

Throw ‘em out.

]]> By: dearkitty http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-211875 dearkitty Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:27:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-211875 More on Bush, Cheney, and torture: http://dearkitty.modblog.com/?show=blogview&blog_id=775994 More on Bush, Cheney, and torture: http://dearkitty.modblog.com/?show=blogview&blog_id=775994

]]> By: Wayne A. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-211560 Wayne A. Schneider Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:07:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-211560 Okay, so there's this common thread in three incidents. First, Ahmed Chalbi, the darling of the neo-cons (Vice President Cheney, SecDef Rumsfeld, and others) who pushed us into war, is told that we have broken Iran's codes and have been interecepting their messages. This information is classified, of course, so there's no sensible reason why a foreigner would be told this. Chalbi promptly tells the Iranians that we have broken their codes, thus cutting off a crucial line of intel. Second, An employee of the CIA whose employment status was classified is identified in the press after people associated with the Vice President's office talk to several reporters. Third, the possible and calssified existence of secret CIA prisons (which may or may not use torture) is revealed to the press after the Vice President meets with a bunch of republican senators (who also have no business being told this.) Maybe it's just a coincidence, but it sure looks like Vice President Cheney is a common thread in all of these leaks of classified information. Maybe it's just a coincidence, just like maybe President George W. Bush really is a man of honesty and integrity. Somehow, I don't think so. It's time to get rid of both of them. Okay, so there’s this common thread in three incidents.

First, Ahmed Chalbi, the darling of the neo-cons (Vice President Cheney, SecDef Rumsfeld, and others) who pushed us into war, is told that we have broken Iran’s codes and have been interecepting their messages. This information is classified, of course, so there’s no sensible reason why a foreigner would be told this. Chalbi promptly tells the Iranians that we have broken their codes, thus cutting off a crucial line of intel.

Second, An employee of the CIA whose employment status was classified is identified in the press after people associated with the Vice President’s office talk to several reporters.

Third, the possible and calssified existence of secret CIA prisons (which may or may not use torture) is revealed to the press after the Vice President meets with a bunch of republican senators (who also have no business being told this.)

Maybe it’s just a coincidence, but it sure looks like Vice President Cheney is a common thread in all of these leaks of classified information.

Maybe it’s just a coincidence, just like maybe President George W. Bush really is a man of honesty and integrity.

Somehow, I don’t think so.

It’s time to get rid of both of them.

]]> By: Jeff http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-211518 Jeff Wed, 09 Nov 2005 21:37:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-211518 oops, wrong "there" oops, wrong “there”

]]> By: Jeff http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-211517 Jeff Wed, 09 Nov 2005 21:36:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-211517 Is it: "we're torturing them over their so we don't have to torture them over here." I get so confused by Republican talking points that I might have gotten something mixed up. Is it: “we’re torturing them over their so we don’t have to torture them over here.” I get so confused by Republican talking points that I might have gotten something mixed up.

]]> By: The Muse http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-211479 The Muse Wed, 09 Nov 2005 21:13:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-211479 but will they support the science agenda... Today on EWM, a scientific shocker: <a href="http://www.eyewitnessmuse.com/musings.php?p=163" rel="nofollow">Study: Euthanizing Right-wing Pundits would Solve Global Warming</a> but will they support the science agenda…

Today on EWM, a scientific shocker: Study: Euthanizing Right-wing Pundits would Solve Global Warming

]]> By: Dead Elephant! http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-211438 Dead Elephant! Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:42:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-211438 <a href="http://www.townhall.com/" rel="nofollow">Dead Elephant!</a> <a href="http://www.townhall.com/" rel="nofollow">Dead Elephant!</a> Dead Elephant!

Dead Elephant!

]]> By: kindness http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-211422 kindness Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:30:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-211422 ringo - go to any of the conservative blogs. They hate McCain. He could win if he SWITCHED to become a Democrat. ringo – go to any of the conservative blogs. They hate McCain. He could win if he SWITCHED to become a Democrat.

]]> By: kindness http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-211421 kindness Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:28:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-211421 Just because Cheney has a thing for whips and chains, does that mean he should push his extreme fetishes on the rest of us? Well, there are gonna be those over here in San Francisico that would LOVE to lick his thigh high black leather boots. But not me thanks. Just because Cheney has a thing for whips and chains, does that mean he should push his extreme fetishes on the rest of us?

Well, there are gonna be those over here in San Francisico that would LOVE to lick his thigh high black leather boots. But not me thanks.

]]> By: Ringo http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-211360 Ringo Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:38:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-211360 I like McCain's push for no torture; however, in the long run, he cannot be trusted because he stumped for Bush in the 2004 election. How he could support Bush after the way Bush/Rove smeared him in 2000 is beyond hard to believe. Normal people do not support those who go out of their way to tear them to shreds. Good message on torture, McCain, but you can forget running for president in 2008. If you can't defend yourself, you can't defend our country. He's just another Republican a--hole. I like McCain’s push for no torture; however, in the long run, he cannot be trusted because he stumped for Bush in the 2004 election. How he could support Bush after the way Bush/Rove smeared him in 2000 is beyond hard to believe. Normal people do not support those who go out of their way to tear them to shreds. Good message on torture, McCain, but you can forget running for president in 2008. If you can’t defend yourself, you can’t defend our country. He’s just another Republican a–hole.

]]> By: Mary Poppin http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-211299 Mary Poppin Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:11:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-211299 I am glad that McCain has a bill to stop the torture. Old Bushie and Chaney was not in a war and does not know what it is like to be tortured. I do not know how McCain could of supported Bush in the 2004 election after what he did to him in the 2000 elections. Totally disgraceful. I am glad that McCain has a bill to stop the torture. Old Bushie and Chaney was not in a war and does not know what it is like to be tortured.

I do not know how McCain could of supported Bush in the 2004 election after what he did to him in the 2000 elections. Totally disgraceful.

]]> By: Ringo http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-211257 Ringo Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:35:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-211257 Arrogance has permeated the GOP to such an extreme they still think they're running the show. By defending their actions that even to the most ignorant person screams EVIL, they just dig their graves another foot deeper. Keep digging Republicans. The people are ready to bury you once and for all. Arrogance has permeated the GOP to such an extreme they still think they’re running the show. By defending their actions that even to the most ignorant person screams EVIL, they just dig their graves another foot deeper. Keep digging Republicans. The people are ready to bury you once and for all.

]]> By: nowar http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-211232 nowar Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:21:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-211232 War on Terrorism????? I wouldn't trust this whole crew to plan a small birthday party. Look how far we've come in Iraq. War on Terrorism?????
I wouldn’t trust this whole crew to plan a small birthday party.
Look how far we’ve come in Iraq.

]]> By: nowar http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/09/cheney-pundits-torture/comment-page-1/#comment-211225 nowar Wed, 09 Nov 2005 18:19:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2491#comment-211225 They needn't torture people especially when Sen Coburn R OK says his medical training makes him a great lie detector. That mans talents are a wastin in the senate They needn’t torture people especially when Sen Coburn R OK says his medical training makes him a great lie detector. That mans talents are a wastin in the senate

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