Condoleezza Rice, 11/11/05:
I think that Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction programs were fully expected to be there by everyone who knew anything about the program or knew anything about his history of having used weapons of mass destruction against his own people, his insatiable appetite for them, the UN sanctions against him. And it was not just this Administration that thought that he had weapons of mass destruction and that talked about those weapons of mass destruction. Nobody was willing to give Saddam Hussein the benefit of the doubt.
In fact, Condoleezza Rice was willing to “give Saddam Hussein the benefit of the doubt†in 2001.
Well, in fact, John, we have made progress on the sanctions. … But in terms of Saddam Hussein being there, let’s remember that his country is divided, in effect. He does not control the northern part of his country. We are able to keep arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt. [CNN, Late Edition, 7/29/01]
UPDATE: In fact, Bush’s own WMD report proved that the old Condi was smarter than the new Condi:
From Saddam’s perspective, UN sanctions hindered his ability to rule Iraq with complete authority and autonomy. In the long run, UN sanctions also interfered with his efforts to establish a historic legacy. [Duelfer report, Key Findings]
Great… so who do I believe? Past Connie or present Connie? Ah this is becoming too difficult!
November 11th, 2005 at 5:08 pmCondi Rice: Secretary of Revisionist History
When history doesn’t look favorably on your track record, the best thing to do is engage in revisionist history. Condoleeza Rice shows us her skills. Either she has a really bad memory or she chooses to distort the historical record. She’s too smart …
November 11th, 2005 at 5:09 pmLet’s not forget how the civil rights movement really didn’t have any effect on her. Like the people she supports, she’s not of this earth.
November 11th, 2005 at 5:11 pmone thing no one ever mentions:
this stuff degrades constantly and must be maintained, tested, and monitored for its functionality.
Saddam did none of this.
November 11th, 2005 at 5:11 pmYou know, I hate the “9/11 changed everything” argument, but this quote would be better used in showing that their talking point about “the Clinton administration believed it too,” is utter crap because they took the same view of “what to do with Saddam” as Clinton, before 9/11.
November 11th, 2005 at 5:13 pmBut.. but… 9/11 happened.. that gave us the right to bomb the first Middle Eastern country we could think of.. it just happened to be the one where the most oil could be found…
November 11th, 2005 at 5:13 pmTo quote Yoda: “Begun the Quote war has.” :-)
November 11th, 2005 at 5:15 pmTruely amazing, one would think from the right’s talking lies, revised lies, revised lies, revised lies, revised lies, revised lies, revised lies, revised lies, original lies, revised lies, and back to original lies would be coming from elementry school children.
November 11th, 2005 at 5:18 pmSo, the Bushies lied to us about the intel;
We bought it because, hell, why they lie about it?;
We get into this horrible war;
We find out the Bushies were lying to us the whole time;
Bush now blames us for believing him in the first place.
This feels like an argument with my ex.
November 11th, 2005 at 5:18 pmWho ya gonna believe baby? Me or your lying eyes?
Condi Rice has NO credibility. Her mushroom cloud BS was over the top. Just like the rest of this administration. This is especially galling when you consider that the new head of Office of Public Health Emergency Preparedness is Stewart Simonson, a man who was a corporate lawyer for Amtrak. The push to protect us from the bird flu is being headed by another hack. Any natural disaster in this arena and our leader will be a political ideologue with no experience. This hack, with no experience is our leader in the event of a biological disaster. The article that explains it all is below.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20051128/scahill
Germ Boys and Yes Men – Jeremy Scahill
By the way, I took Amtrak this summer. The only protection I saw from terrorists was an 8 by 11 sheet of paper taped to the door telling me what I could bring with me to my assigned seat.
I know this is long winded but the hypocracy of this administration is no longer acceptable. Our underbelly is showing and we are no longer safe.
November 11th, 2005 at 5:22 pmyeah, and she has the gall to visit iraq on veterans day, thinking her ferragamo’d presence is going to make a whit bit of difference and, then, most galling of all, reference her meeting with ahmad-the-crook chalabi…
screw you, condi, and your shoes too…
http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/2005/11/reassuring-presence-of-condi-in-iraq.html
November 11th, 2005 at 5:22 pmFlip Flopper?
November 11th, 2005 at 5:25 pmThink Progress, I don’t know what your policy is on placing articles on your site but the article I posted above is really important. The nation needs to know how vulnerable this administration has made us. This is dangerous. Thank you.
November 11th, 2005 at 5:25 pmShe’s right. Otherwise the United Nations woulnd’t have thought it prudent to go over and inspect Saddam.
November 11th, 2005 at 5:29 pm#10
That is soooooooo funny!
And unfortunately true of many relationships.
November 11th, 2005 at 5:32 pmThis is your brain, and this is your brain in the BUsh Administration
All that intellect, wasted….
November 11th, 2005 at 5:38 pmThey rain down hypocrisy on themselves. This is too easy when they trip over their own tounges, forked as they may be.
November 11th, 2005 at 5:38 pmwell condi, if all this is the case you make, I guess we should…invade every country on the planet…just in case they might have WMD’S????? …oh btw, wallfart is having a sale on SHOES!…
November 11th, 2005 at 5:41 pm#19, let’s start with a country that has a history of aggressive warfare in the volatile Middle East, has invaded at least four of its neighbors in the last 40 years, permitted ethnic cleansing massacres during said invasions, exercises an apartheid regime in territory it claims as its own, depriving the original occupants of many basic human rights, maintains an suspected arsenal of WMDs and ignores most UN resolutions which are passed in regard to its behavior above. Anyone want to guess who this dangerous pariah might be? Sound like bad people don’t they?
November 11th, 2005 at 5:50 pmThey just rewrite history taking advantage of the public’s short memory. The neocons are not only students of Strauss, they are students of fiction — George Orwell. This is classic “1984″ — this is Whiston’s White House.
November 11th, 2005 at 5:51 pmHardball just showed a clip of Darth Vader Cheney saying he never said Hussein was contained, then a clip was shown wherein exactly 12 months previous that was exactly what he said. That’s only one example of the history re-write here.
#21 – I must be getting old — Whiston was a former neighbor — I meant to say WINSTON (from “1984″).
November 11th, 2005 at 5:55 pmI don’t know. Condi was one of the proponents of shaping the arguements for going to war in Iraq. But she is kinda pretty, except for that huge gap between her teeth.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but a righwing redneck like me has to wonder: when do you think the last time was that she got laid?
November 11th, 2005 at 6:20 pmTerry the Turtle,
Before you launch this nation’s first ever premptive strike, you better be 100% sure there is WMD justification.
November 11th, 2005 at 6:21 pm#10 I almost spit my water on my laptop screen. Thanks, that was some funny shizz.
November 11th, 2005 at 7:16 pmhow about the chemical weapons WE’RE using in Iraq?
So I guess that means we should….
Go to war against…. OURSELVES???
WE have WMD…
WE used chemical warfare………..
That 37% ought to be ASHAMED of themselves…
November 11th, 2005 at 7:19 pmI agree with 24. Which is exactly why Condi just made the case for those of us who are opposed to preemptive strikes.
And if its about overthrowing a dictator, spreading democracy, or any other half ass reason. You’d have to ignore the last 50 years of fighting containment wars against the Russians.
Either way its tough to make a case for offensive wars.
November 11th, 2005 at 7:22 pmAs I was getting ready for our evening out, I could hear Mr. Aphrodite laughing out loud reading these threads. He asked about the link noted by blahblahbla http://www.afsc.org. “Isn’t that the same group who advocates open-borders, and hopes we get completely over run by illegal aliens?” Clever man!!!! (Handsome AND brilliant!!) Good night!
November 11th, 2005 at 8:17 pmAs I was getting ready for our evening out, I could hear Mr. Aphrodite laughing out loud reading these threads. He asked about the link noted by blahblahbla http://www.afsc.org. “Isn’t that the same group who advocates open-borders, and hopes we get completely over run by illegal aliens?†Clever man!!!! (Handsome AND brilliant!!) Good night!
Comment by mighty aphrodite — November 11, 2005 @ 8:17 pm
From the AFSC “About Us” page:
“About AFSC
The American Friends Service Committee carries out service, development, social justice, and peace programs throughout the world. Founded by Quakers in 1917 to provide conscientious objectors with an opportunity to aid civilian war victims, AFSC’s work attracts the support and partnership of people of many races, religions, and cultures.
AFSC’s work is based on the Quaker belief in the worth of every person and faith in the power of love to overcome violence and injustice. The organization’s mission and achievements won worldwide recognition in 1947 when it accepted the Nobel Peace Prize with the British Friends Service Council on behalf of all Quakers.
The AFSC is directed by a Quaker board and staffed by Quakers and other people of faith who share the Friends’ desire for peace and social justice.”
I would think twice before ridiculing the AFSC like Mighty Aphrodite just did.
I don’t know much about that but, don’t the AFSC people sound like good Christians?
November 11th, 2005 at 8:26 pmCondi and Hermaphrodite are lovers.
November 11th, 2005 at 9:15 pmI love wasting time talking about Condi, it’s fun!
November 11th, 2005 at 9:27 pmIt’s interesting that Bush surrounds himself with all these powerful women, Condi, Karen Hughs, and picking Harriet Miers. And advocates for women’s rights in other countries, yet is stacking the Supreme Court with folks who will likely be taking away women’s rights here at home.
November 11th, 2005 at 9:31 pmIntelligent design folks hate evolution becouse they refuse to evolve.
November 11th, 2005 at 9:35 pmPoll:
Who is the nastier neocon whore?
Condi Rice
Anne Coulter
November 11th, 2005 at 9:56 pmSusan,
I’ve got another contender to the title for you:
Michelle Malkin
;-)
November 11th, 2005 at 10:10 pmAgreed Gregor..
I forgot to nominate Judy Miller.
November 11th, 2005 at 10:17 pmSixteen straight days of the French intifada and not one word from Think Communist on the subject. All we get is second rate bitching about meaningless little stories about Condi and the president’s press secretary. Afraid of insulting your near kinsmen?
November 11th, 2005 at 10:58 pmIRIGHTI-
Go away you little bug. You are simply just a mosquito that needs to be swatted. You and Mighty Mouth deserve each other.
Condi, Karen, Harriet, Judy and Michelle: Whores of the Bush Administration. They are, in my opinion, The Blue Dress Five. Let’s see what stain each has.
November 11th, 2005 at 11:17 pmOops! I forgot Ann. So that makes it the Blue Dress Six.
November 11th, 2005 at 11:18 pm#49.
I’d leave out the Hefners and Howard Stern. Stern has been battling against the FCC for their constant attempts to censor his radio show and muffle his freedom of speech. Colin Powell’s son, Michael, the now-ex Commissioner of the FCC is one of Howard’s
arch-enemies.
Hugh Hefner is also a free speech advocate and even had Alex Haley write several articles for Playboy back in the sixties, way before he began writing books.
November 11th, 2005 at 11:24 pmHe even had some Black Playboy Bunnies early on. By the way, don’t you think that a Playboy Bunny has a higher IQ than Ann Coulter who looks more like a Bunny reject.
Condi wears her stain on her nose.
November 11th, 2005 at 11:34 pmand rush limbuagh,mike savage,ted nugent,etc
Comment by BLABLABLABLA — November 11, 2005 @ 10:44 pm
Sorry BLABLABLABLA, your candidates don’t make the cut: This is a politically incorrect females-only contest ;-)
November 12th, 2005 at 12:06 amNot that I would lay with a blackie.
that is soo wrong.
November 12th, 2005 at 12:21 amBush is my love, I want to jerk him off.
He is the greatest man I ever got my man hole filled by.
But he does love being bottom too.
November 12th, 2005 at 12:24 amI want condi to strap one on and do me too!
Mr. aphrodite is my cat.
November 12th, 2005 at 12:25 amfrom smirkingchimp.com
Confessions of a Repentant Republican
by William Frey, M. D.
“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.â€
- George W. Bush, 5/24/05
I supported George W. Bush in the presidential election in 2000, believing then that he best reflected my love for America and for our tradition of liberty. I supported the war in Afghanistan. In March of 2003, I believed that the invasion of Iraq was justified based upon pre-war revelations presented to Congress and to the American people. Accordingly, the indictments contained herein apply, first and foremost, to myself.
Many Americans whom I know and love, including many current supporters of President Bush, remain conflicted over both his ultimate intentions in Iraq as well as domestic curtailment of civil liberties.
Many have given the benefit of the doubt to President Bush, and, in a misdirected spirit of unity, have supported, as did I, Administration policies that conflict with our essential values.
This essay explores many of the issues that led me personally to the recognition that the policies I was supporting in Iraq were not consistent with the justifications made for the invasion in the spring of 2003, that implicit in our post-invasion actions was the goal of permanent occupation, which would ensure endless war and the resultant degradation of our liberty, our security, and our moral authority.
For me, recognizing that I could no longer support the President for whom I voted, and the occupation of a land we had invaded, remains personally painful.
I have learned that while it is difficult to admit being wrong, such recognition is a prerequisite for redemptive action, necessary both for individual growth and for the healing of our nation.
It is in this spirit that I submit these reflections.
William Frey, M. D.
November, 2005
http://www.republicansforhumility.com/
November 12th, 2005 at 12:42 am“I have learned that while it is difficult to admit being wrong, such recognition is a prerequisite for redemptive action. . .”
Man, that is so profound, so true, so basic. . . if only these neocons could take a step back and really examine themselves and their policies.
But when you believe you are religiously righteous, I suppose even questioning yourself would be an act of heresy, wouldn’t it?
How convenient for them, And disastrous for us.
November 12th, 2005 at 6:17 am#50. . . why would Think Progress comment on it in the first place? Have you EVER seen a topic here concerning internal matters of another country (that we’re not directly involved in)?
Your anger is unfocused, incoherent, and inane. That’s understandable, since it matches your beloved Republican theo-fascist party’s policies and philosophy.
November 12th, 2005 at 7:06 amhttp://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html
Why Indeed Did the WTC Buildings Collapse?
By Steven E. Jones
Department of Physics and Astronomy
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84604
ABSTRACT
November 12th, 2005 at 8:33 amI never said #56. Looks like I-RIGHT-I or NED is using my name again.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but others are welcome to copy my style if they wish as I have seen, but signing my name to a racist statement like that…….I mean, it is almost enough to make me question my membership in the righwing, conservative movement I’m so proud of.
November 12th, 2005 at 9:07 amI never said #56. Looks like I-RIGHT-I or NED is using my name again.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but others are welcome to copy my style if they wish as I have seen, but signing my name to a racist statement like that…….I mean, it is almost enough to make me question my membership in the righwing, conservative movement I’m so proud of.
Comment by Joe Sixpack
From what I’ve seen Joe you’re kind of a half-assed conservative, if that. But to suggest that one of the real conservatives that slum here is taking your handle in vain after reading what they’ve done to me the same way over and over again and the Goddess just a few posts above makes me suspect it could be you doing that instead of Ryan “FMFB” Neat or KJ Lovehandles. Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.
November 12th, 2005 at 9:13 amI have learned that while it is difficult to admit being wrong, such recognition is a prerequisite for redemptive action, necessary both for individual growth and for the healing of our nation.
It is in this spirit that I submit these reflections.
William Frey, M. D.
November, 2005
http://www.republicansforhumility.com/
Comment by Nik —
Bill Frey is probably an abortionist working for Planned Parenthood. It would take a guy like that to rationalize away his commitment to the war on Islamofascism at the drop of a few Left Wing slogans, lies and half truths.
On the other hand he could be a liar and never supported the war in the first place. There’s nothing to low for the Filthy Left once they began politicking for the killing of unborn children.
November 12th, 2005 at 9:20 amI’m the one playing the sockpuppet Joe. I know I’m not supposed to do it but I think IRI needs some help on the way out the door. He just won’t leave us alone so we can get on with our little Left Wing Circle Jerk. Sorry if I confused you.
November 12th, 2005 at 10:13 amThose Who Live In Glass Houses Shouldn’t Throw Stones at Cindy Sheehan.
The Democrats, once again, have blundered the situation by overplaying their hand and taking things too far. You had the solitary Mrs. Sheehan against the weight of the Second Triumvirate of American Politics supported by the Rove Machine. The underdog. One voice. Then the Howard Deans and the Michael Moores and the Moveon.orgs move in, and set up camp, and Joan Baez is singing, and the Sean Hannitys and the Rush Limbaughs and the Bill O’Reillys of the world now have their fodder.
And yet: Who the hell are these people to criticize Cindy Sheehan?
The draft-dodgers and the oxycotin addicts and the sex addicts and harassers, from their air-conditioned high-rise studios, while playing golf and eating steaks and puffing on your fat cigars?
I don’t care if you agree or disagree with her politics. Or some of the statements she has made. You might think she is a complete kook. But keep your opinions to yourself.
She is the one paying the price for your war.
Have some respect, for God’s sake.
If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.
For more on the Media, Politics, Literature, and the Law, visit my Blog at: http://www.gravierhouse.com.
November 12th, 2005 at 10:48 amTHOSE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDN’T THROW STONES AT CINDY SHEEHAN
The Democrats, once again, have blundered the situation by overplaying their hand and taking things too far. You had the solitary Mrs. Sheehan against the weight of the Second Triumvirate of American Politics supported by the Rove Machine. The underdog. One voice. Then the Howard Deans and the Michael Moores and the Moveon.orgs move in, and set up camp, and Joan Baez is singing, and the Sean Hannitys and the Rush Limbaughs and the Bill O’Reillys of the world now have their fodder.
And yet: Who the hell are these people to criticize Cindy Sheehan?
The draft-dodgers and the oxycotin addicts and the sex addicts and harassers, from their air-conditioned high-rise studios, while playing golf and eating steaks and puffing on your fat cigars?
I don’t care if you agree or disagree with her politics. Or some of the statements she has made. You might think she is a complete kook. But keep your opinions to yourself.
She is the one paying the price for your war.
Have some respect, for God’s sake.
If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all.
For more on the Media, Politics, Literature, and the Law, visit my Blog at: http://www.gravierhouse.com.
November 12th, 2005 at 10:53 amWhy does this sham of an administration constantly use the excuse of the WMD case for this “War On America” oops, I mean “War on Terror”? We already know that Mr. Shrub has established a “clear link” between al-”Q”aida and ira”Q”. He wanted to get back at Saddam at whatever the cost. I wonder if Mr. Shrub has pondered this thought…Since Saddam has been in this “Tribunal Hearings” several of his and his associates attorneys have been murdered by “insurgents”. What if Saddam had been aquitted or found not guilty based on charges that he had WMD’s, then what will Mr. Shrub do? Take Pat Robertson’s advice for assasination? What the 32% of “Amurikan’s” that support Mr. Shrub dont realize is that WMD = Weapons of Mass Deception.
November 12th, 2005 at 11:27 amThat is why that GAP in her teeth is getting wider…I guess all those lies are starting to deteriorate her gums and the pressure to maintain the dental alignment is just too difficult…
Well, at least SHE has body armor and new shoes for her trip. We all know how important shoes are when conducting business for the nation. But, I know that there is a dentist somewhere eager for the opportunity to assist her with her obvious “BTD” (Buck Tooth Disease)
We should all be concerned, because it could develop into whistle-idis or worse…the dreaded TAS (Truth Admission Syndrome! (Known to be deadly to MANY administrations)
I will call JERRY and PAT so they can start the telethon! I’ll update you with progress reports on their efforts!!!
November 12th, 2005 at 12:13 pm… They could give Con-Woman Condi the teeth of all the Osmond Family combined , but NOTHING they do can hide her COLD , HARD EYES ! That’s like looking into a couple of bottomless pits ( where neoconnie condis keep their hearts )- Ewwww ! … ;)
November 12th, 2005 at 5:40 pmWell lookie at all the tidy-righties fighting, and in this blog TOO!
It makes me glad that it is almost FITZMAS!
I just wonder how long till the neo-cons reign of terror will last…. tick tick tick..
I think not that much longer.
There is an old sayin’ in Texas, or is that tenessey? Screw me once, not twice, oh heck maybe you can screw the entire world some of the time, but you can’t screw the entire world all the time.
Thanks Dumbya for HOURS of laughter.
November 13th, 2005 at 5:34 amMore omission of facts and history here, zzzzz….
In 2002 or late 2001, Iraq was caught smuggling those aluminum tubes into their country. They were also caugt smuggling in 380 rocket engines. They were also caught smuggling various other devices such as magnets. All of these happened after the statements by Condi shown in this ThinkProgress dream-world post.
Also, as some have noted, 9/11 happened which had a profound effect on the way the Bush administration thought about things. If you read any of the verified Downing Street memos, you’ll see this reflected there, that 9/11 changed their policy on Iraq. They were no longer going to sit around and hope that threats would not materialize. Saddam Hussein became a more urgent issue after 9/11.
When terror network manages to get 19 hijackers onto 4 US planes and kill 3,000 Americans with limited resources, naturally you start viewing the guy with billions in oil revenues, history of WMDs, and a hate of the USA a little more skeptically.
November 13th, 2005 at 9:16 amI might also add that Condi’s statements are taken out of context. If you read her entire remarks from pre-9/11, you’ll see that both her and Colin Powell were convinced that Iraq had WMDs, but they both were adamant that Saddam’s regular military forces were still severely weakened. I also don’t recall Bush or the administration ever claiming that it was Saddam’s regular military forces that were the problem or the threat. So why ThinkProgress quotes Condi talking about that, I cannot understand.
Well, except for the fact that ThinkProgress quotes one thing, and then tells you it actually means something else.
November 13th, 2005 at 9:18 ambut women love her :)
November 13th, 2005 at 10:15 am#85. Women, No, not all women love her. Self educated, non dominated and wise women don’t like her at all. We see her as the token female, black, boot licker of the right. She is very well educated but a lier and kiss ass for the Bush administration.Rice like all this administration has her own design for the presedency. Don’t think this will happen, we on the left are learning how to swift boat from the right and will dump her in the wake water.
November 13th, 2005 at 11:35 amDidn’t kinda sleezy rice come from the top offices of a BIG OIL COMPANY before her debut in the corrupt WH?
YES.
I never read any of sexistion’s BS, I don’t know why it tries so hard to spew it’s garbage. Tip for sexistion: Be gone, you have no power here.
November 13th, 2005 at 2:06 pmkjlovell,
Again, I wonder why people always have to butcher my alias when they respond to me. Do you feel good when you do that or something? I never understood that.
You don’t read my “BS” because it challenges you and you cannot provide a response. I don’t have any power here? Neither do you, so what is your point?
I have the facts, and you don’t like facts. It’s as simple as that.
November 13th, 2005 at 3:15 pmSextant,
We don’t read your lies because you are a fool, liar and a Nazi.
We gave you the benefit of the doubt at first, but you proved that you are a whack-job.
You are obviously the one with the twisted views of reality. You really should take a walk outside your one-bedroom cold-water flat and see what HUMANS think, say and do.
You may just find that you have a dated mind set.
Meanwhile those of us with connections know the truth and are not afraid to educate people of your limited means.
Keep trying, I am SURE God is not quite finished with you.
November 14th, 2005 at 4:23 amSexyIon is a jerk, don’t waste your time trying to communicate with it.
Just like Iwrong-wronger….
They are content in their white sheets next to their burning crosses.
November 14th, 2005 at 4:25 amI would love a few minutes alone in a room with sickeon, I am sure that I could make him view reality differently.
What a jerk.
November 14th, 2005 at 4:26 amHey, you leave me alone. I love dumbya. I love the new world order. I love heartless DICK!
Seceret concentration camps for all of you lefties!!!!
Torture to you all!!!!
November 14th, 2005 at 4:28 amCondi To The American People:
“You Can’t Handle The Tooth”
:)
http://www.illmethinks.com
g
November 14th, 2005 at 9:10 amRyan,
Those aluminum tubes were instantly recognized to be ‘unsuitable’ for the task that Condi repeatedly lied about. The DOE clearly communicated that the tubes were of the wrong construction to even possibly be used for the centrifuges.
Unfortunately, the CIA and the DIA disagreed. Condi was given what the CIA thought, not what the DOE thought. Any reading of any of the intelligence reports would tell you this. Start reading.
YOU ARE A FOOL, AND A PARTISAN LYING TROLL, nothing more.
Geez Ryan, you sure do get worked up when I say something that attacks your view on the world. Calm down there fella.
And aren’t you the right wing fascist whacko that once said Michael Moore is a good justification for banning freedom of speech?
Ehmmm no? See Ryan, that is exactly the kind of thing I have been talking about. You just make shit up. All the time. I never said anything like that at all. Not even close. You are just grasping for straws to try and beat me with. It is starting to become quite the parody.
You’re nothing more than ann coulter with a bad haircut. Another rightwing reactionary who’s a liar and incapable of distinguishing facts from fiction. You’re a fool, a liar, and apparently a jackass army brat who doesn’t even live in the country.
Damn, how many times can you say liar in a sentence? How do you know how my hair looks like? You’re not making stuff up again are you??
kjlovell,
We don’t read your lies because you are a fool, liar and a Nazi.
Oooh, Nazi, nice touch. I love it when people throw around loaded words to make themselves look more important. So again, what is your opinion on Israel and the Jews?
We gave you the benefit of the doubt at first, but you proved that you are a whack-job.
Oh please, you guys started calling me a Nazi, a liar, a Republican, a NeoCon, and all sorts of stuff right away. Ryan must have popped numerous veins in his forehead by now seeing as how many times he has to write a bunch of nasty things about me right after each other. Apparently I put him into a seething rage. Pretty odd behavior really.
You are obviously the one with the twisted views of reality. You really should take a walk outside your one-bedroom cold-water flat and see what HUMANS think, say and do.
Hey, I did that today, it was fun. Just like I do most days…
You may just find that you have a dated mind set.
Because?
Meanwhile those of us with connections know the truth and are not afraid to educate people of your limited means.
So when are you going to get around to actually talk about anything that has to do with this topic? You and Ryan continuously just use ad hominem attacks on me without even saying anything that has to do with the topic. Why is that? Short of arguments?
Keep trying, I am SURE God is not quite finished with you.
Seeing as how I don’t believe in God, I’m pretty sure that he has never had anything to do with me.
Northeast Dilemma,
They are content in their white sheets next to their burning crosses.
Ah nice touch, KKK. So what we got here, Nazi, KKK, fascist. Wow you guys don’t skip a beat. Now if only you’d actually point out anything I have said that would indicate that I am anything close to KKK….
Good job with the ad hominem attacks guys. You are showing how brilliant all of you really are.
cynicon implant,
I would love a few minutes alone in a room with sickeon, I am sure that I could make him view reality differently.
I’d love to. Yet I think that you would be the one changing your mind at the end of our meeting.
I-RIGHT,
Dude, just shut up.
November 14th, 2005 at 11:23 amEverytime this idiot posts something it is a lie, so in an effort not to waste time I’ll just borrow a relivant comment for him to try to grasp.
Hey, Sextant…If you can read, read below. If you are one of the No billionaire left behind…dumbing down of America have someone read this to you.
SexyIon is a jerk, don’t waste your time trying to communicate with it.
Just like Iwrong-wronger….
They are content in their white sheets next to their burning crosses.
Comment by The Northeast Dilemma
November 14th, 2005 at 12:14 pmHey sextongs just post your address I’ll come over.
You brownshirt idiot.
November 14th, 2005 at 12:15 pmHeee heee heee… sextongs…. I just spit coffee thru my nose.
November 14th, 2005 at 12:16 pmDo you think maybe sextongs is a rove/goebels reich-wing paid commentator?
I would imagine that $5.25 an hour would be a good going rate for someone of it’s caliber for spreading the reich-wing lies/talking points.
November 14th, 2005 at 12:18 pmSex-less:
A person trying to appear like an educated person should avoid using words like
“Dude” and “shut up”
at all costs. It just proves that your education suffers as much as your twisted views of politics.
Keep that brown shirt at the ready, I am sure you’ll be needing it.
I like what someone told you…
Keep trying, I am sure God is not quite finished with you yet.
November 14th, 2005 at 12:32 pmSexdeviant:
You really should keep quite.
It is better to remain silent and be percieved a fool then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Like #102 says, Keep trying, I am sure God is not quite finished with you yet.
November 14th, 2005 at 12:35 pmA person trying to appear like an educated person should avoid using words like
“Dude†and “shut upâ€
at all costs. It just proves that your education suffers as much as your twisted views of politics.
My irony meter just went bananas.
You guys done pretending that I’m something that I’m not? I guess I should have known that I shouldn’t bother with a bunch of petulant children.
Yes Northeast Dilemma, you would like it if I shut up. That has been the whole point of harassing me the entire time. All dissent must be silenced. Were you guys talking about fascism?
November 14th, 2005 at 2:22 pmNo, stupidity must be nipped in the bud.
So you ARE saying you are a small minded biggot with power envy.
Typical brownshirt material.
He he…..
I just get the giggles when I see someone so terribly pathetic.
and… you just can’t shut up and walk away. Again, typical of a small person that feels inferior. I bet you are one giant pussy in person.
We larger, smarter, enlightend people call your condition “Napolean Syndrome”.
Keep posting your lies, I have been told that even flys and maggots are useful someway in the circle of life.
Good day and good luck.
November 15th, 2005 at 1:38 amSex-tongs:
All dissent must not be stopped, but all incorrect facts and reich-wing talking points must and will be stopped.
You are claiming to be a victim, while acting like an attack dog for the reich-wing. Psyc 101, says this is typical behavior of someone that knows they are in the wrong.
I know you are wrong, I also know you truly believe you are wrong, but through your programming by others are conflicted. If you don’t like the opinions and facts do what the other reich-wingers do when they aren’t open to forces of good…. bury your head in the sand and stick to your guns.
I will say, you would make a good team member if you were armed with facts and not lies and talking points.
For that matter you would make a worthy opponent if you were armed with facts and not just lies and talking points.
If you ever open your mind and seek the truth, I welcome you to the discussion.
November 15th, 2005 at 3:57 amI-RIGHT,
Dude, just shut up.
Comment by Seixon
Just so you know. This is the first post of mine since this one of yours. If it is yours. I don’t really see you with the word Dude coming out of your mouth.
November 15th, 2005 at 10:08 amSexdeviant,
You really should admit when you are caught in lies.
November 15th, 2005 at 12:06 pmSexlessidiot,
I like the idea of posting your address, we need to talk.
Petulant? Sounds like you have that word of the day toilet paper.
November 15th, 2005 at 12:08 pmAnd admit it, petulant is NOT a word that you would have in your vocabulary.
November 15th, 2005 at 12:09 pmI love Bush, he is my man. I want him, I want Rove too. They will save the world and rid it of all people of color.
They have already started making people from other countries come report in and give all their information. This is the first step in ridding the world of undesirable people.
Same playbook from Germany, the great country that couldn’t succeed where Bush can and will!
November 15th, 2005 at 12:11 pmSEN. EDWARD KENNEDY: “What Was Said Before Does Matter. The President’s Words Matter. The Vice President’s Words Matter. So Do Those Of The Secretary Of State And The Secretary Of Defense And Other High Officials In The Administration.” (Sen. Edward Kennedy, Congressional Record, 11/10/05)
Executive Summary:
Democrats Consistently Warned The Nation Of The Threat Posed By Iraq’s Weapons Of Mass Destruction
Democrats, Circa 1998
– President Bill Clinton: “[M]ark my words, [Saddam] will develop weapons of mass destruction. He will deploy them, and he will use them.”
– Vice President Al Gore: “Saddam’s ability to produce and deliver weapons of mass destruction poses a grave threat … to the security of the world.”
– Secretary Of State Madeleine Albright: “[W]e are concerned … about [Saddam's] ability in the long run … to threaten all of us with weapons of mass destruction.”
– National Security Adviser Sandy Berger: “[Saddam] will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction, and someday, some way, I am certain, he will use that arsenal again.”
– U.N. Ambassador Bill Richardson: “Facts are facts. Iraq has been deceiving the international community with the weaponization of nerve gas. It’s that simple.”
– Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.): “[Saddam] is too dangerous of a man to be given carte blanche with weapons of mass destruction.”
– Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Ill.): “[Saddam's] chemical and biological weapons capabilities are frightening.”
Democrats, Circa 2002
– Former Vice President Al Gore: “We know that [Saddam] has stored away secret supplies of biological weapons and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
– Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.): “We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.”
– Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.): “Saddam’s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose real threats to America today, tomorrow.”
– Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.): “These weapons represent an unacceptable threat.”
– Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.): “Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.”
FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON
President Bill Clinton Called Iraq “A Rogue State With Weapons Of Mass Destruction, Ready To Use Them Or Provide Them To Terrorists…” CLINTON: “In the next century, the community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now — a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists, drug traffickers, or organized criminals who travel the world among us unnoticed. If we fail to respond today, Saddam, and all those who would follow in his footsteps, will be emboldened tomorrow by the knowledge that they can act with impunity, even in the face of a clear message from the United Nations Security Council, and clear evidence of a weapons of mass destruction program.” (Bill Clinton, Remarks At The Pentagon, 2/17/98)
Clinton, On Saddam’s WMD: “Some Day, Some Way, I Guarantee You He’ll Use The Arsenal. And I Think Every One Of You Who Has Really Worked On This For Any Length Of Time, Believes That, Too.” CLINTON: “[L]et’s imagine the future. What if he fails to comply and we fail to act, or we take some ambiguous third route, which gives him yet more opportunities to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction and continue to press for the release of the sanctions and continue to ignore the solemn commitments that he made? Well, he will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction. And some day, some way, I guarantee you he’ll use the arsenal. And I think every one of you who has really worked on this for any length of time, believes that, too.”
(Bill Clinton, Remarks At The Pentagon, 2/17/98)
Clinton, On Saddam: “[M]ark My Words, He Will Develop Weapons Of Mass Destruction. He Will Deploy Them, And He Will Use Them.”
(Bill Clinton, Remarks At The White House, 12/16/98)
In November 1997, Clinton Directed Then-Secretary Of Defense William Cohen To “Raise The Profile Of The Biological And Chemical Threat.” “Cohen, meanwhile, was arguing that a true U.S. vital interest — and one that could easily be explained in public — was Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, often referred to in abbreviated terms as WMD. Clinton directed him on Nov. 13 to raise the profile of the biological and chemical threat. The following day, the former senator from Maine held a five-pound bag of sugar on ABC’s This Week Sunday program and said the same quantity of anthrax could kill half the population of Washington.” (Barton Gellman, Dana Priest and Bradley Graham, “Diplomacy And Doubts On The Road To War,” The Washington Post, 3/1/98)
Cohen, Following Clinton’s Orders On ABC’s This Week: “What Is On The Horizon Is Anthrax, VX, Sarin, And Other Types Of Weapons Of Mass Destruction.” COHEN: “All of his neighbors in the region, I think, are fearful of what Saddam Hussein has done in the past and apprehensive of what he might do in the future. We intend to intensify that apprehension on their part by showing it’s not invasion of Kuwait, it’s not invasion of Saudi Arabia that’s on the horizon. What is on the horizon is anthrax, VX, sarin, and other types of weapons of mass destruction.” (ABC’s This Week, 11/16/97)
Clinton: “I Have No Doubt Today, That Left Unchecked, Saddam Hussein Will Use These Terrible Weapons Again.” CLINTON: “Other countries possess weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles. With Saddam, there is one big difference: He has used them, not once, but repeatedly. Unleashing chemical weapons against Iranian troops during a decade-long war. Not only against soldiers, but against civilians, firing Scud missiles at the citizens of Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Iran. And not only against a foreign enemy, but even against his own people, gassing Kurdish civilians in Northern Iraq. The international community had little doubt then, and I have no doubt today, that left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will use these terrible weapons again.” (Bill Clinton, Remarks At The White House, 12/16/98)
Clinton Insisted Saddam Sat Atop The List Of “Predators Of The 21st Century.” CLINTON: “[T]his is not a time free from peril, especially as a result of reckless acts of outlaw nations and an unholy axis of terrorists, drug traffickers and organized international criminals. We have to defend our future from these predators of the 21st century, … [T]hey will be all the more lethal if we allow them to build arsenals of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them. We simply cannot allow that to happen. There is no more clear example of this threat than Saddam Hussein’s Iraq. His regime threatens the safety of his people, the stability of his region and the security of all the rest of us.” (Bill Clinton, Remarks At The Pentagon, 2/17/98)
FORMER VICE PRESIDENT AL GORE
Vice President Al Gore Claimed “Saddam’s Ability To Produce And Deliver Weapons Of Mass Destruction Poses A Grave Threat … To The Security Of The World.” GORE: “There should be no doubt, Saddam’s ability to produce and deliver weapons of mass destruction poses a grave threat to the peace of that region and the security of the world. His defiance of the will of the international community to allow UNSCOM to do its job cannot and will not be tolerated.” (Al Gore, Remarks At The Pentagon, 2/17/98)
Gore: “If You Allow Someone Like Saddam Hussein To Get Nuclear Weapons, Ballistic Missiles, Chemical Weapons, Biological Weapons, How Many People Is He Going To Kill…?” GORE: “[I]f you allow someone like Saddam Hussein to get nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, chemical weapons, biological weapons, how many people is he going to kill with such weapons? He’s already demonstrated a willingness to use these weapons; he poison gassed his own people. He used poison gas and other weapons of mass destruction against his neighbors. This man has no compunctions about killing lots and lots of people.” (CNN’s Larry King Live, 12/16/98)
When Discussing Saddam’s Iraq, Gore Invoked The Specter Of “Ballistic Missiles, Nuclear Weapons, Chemical And Biological Weapons.” “Remember, Peter, this is a man who has used poison gas on his own people and on his neighbors repeatedly. He’s trying to get ballistic missiles, nuclear weapons, chemical and biological weapons. He could be a mass murderer of the first order of magnitude. We are not going to allow that to happen.” (ABC News’ “Special Report,” 12/16/98)
Gore, In 2002: “We Know That [Saddam] Has Stored Away Secret Supplies Of Biological Weapons And Chemical Weapons Throughout His Country.” (Al Gore, Remarks To The Commonwealth Club Of California, San Francisco, CA, 9/23/02)
FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE MADELEINE ALBRIGHT
Secretary Of State Madeleine Albright Said Saddam “Had The Capability With The VX Agents To Destroy Every Man, Woman And Child On Earth.” ALBRIGHT: “Weapons of mass destruction are the threat of the future. I think the president explained very clearly to the American people that this is the threat of the 21st century. It’s hard to control, hard to get at, that we need to – you know, Saddam Hussein had the capability with the VX agents to destroy every man, woman and child on earth. So we have a serious problem here. He is a threat.” (PBS’ The Newshour With Jim Lehrer, 12/17/98)
Albright: “[W]e Are Concerned, As The President Said, About [Saddam's] Ability In The Long Run To Threaten His Neighbors, And Frankly, To Threaten All Of Us With Weapons Of Mass Destruction.” (CNN’s “Larry King Live,” 12/16/98)
Albright Accused Saddam Of Pursuing Dual Threats To International Peace: Terrorism And Weapons Of Mass Destruction. ALBRIGHT: “Countering terror is one aspect of our struggle to maintain international security and peace. Limiting the dangers posed by weapons of mass destruction is a second. Saddam Hussein’s Iraq encompasses both of these challenges, while posing yet a third. .. As we look ahead, we will decide how and when to respond to Iraq’s actions based on the threat they pose to Iraq’s neighbors, to regional security and to U.S. vital interests. Our assessment will include Saddam’s capacity to reconstitute, use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction.” (Madeleine Albright, Remarks At The American Legion Convention, New Orleans, LA, 9/9/98)
Albright: “[Saddam] Has Chosen To Spend His Money On Building Weapons Of Mass Destruction And Palaces For His Cronies.” (Madeleine Albright, Remarks To The Chicago Council On Foreign Relations, Chicago, IL, 11/12/99)
Albright Justified A December 1998 Attack On Iraq As A Way To Increase America’s Security And “Deal With The Threat” Of Saddam’s Weapons. ALBRIGHT: “President Clinton felt very strongly that it was in our national security interest to deal with the threat that Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction, their capability, their future capability of threatening us, the neighbors, the regional stability with them, and that we had a responsibility as the United States to deal with a threat of this kind.” (CNN’s “Early Edition,” 12/18/98)
Albright Argued Saddam’s Pursuit Of Weapons Of Mass Destruction And His Insistence On Lifting Economic Sanctions Was An “Incompatible Position.” ALBRIGHT: “The purpose of it … is to degrade Saddam Hussein’s ability to develop and deliver weapons of mass destruction, and to degrade his ability to threaten his neighbors. And the targets are related to that. They’re going after weapons of mass destruction facilities, after military facilities, command and control security. … [T]his is because Saddam Hussein has insisted that he wants to keep his weapons of mass destruction and have sanctions lifted, a clearly incompatible position.” (NBC’s Today, 12/18/98)
Albright Said The Risk That Rogue State Leaders Like Saddam “Will Use Nuclear, Chemical Or Biological Weapons Against Us Or Our Allies Is The Greatest Security Threat We Face.” ALBRIGHT: “Iraq is a long way from [America], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risk that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face. And it is a threat against which we must and will stand firm. In discussing Iraq, we begin by knowing that Saddam Hussein, unlike any other leader, has used weapons of mass destruction even against his own people.” (CNN’s “Showdown With Iraq: International Town Meeting,” 2/18/98)
FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER SANDY BERGER
National Security Adviser Sandy Berger Said Saddam “Will Rebuild His Arsenal Of Weapons Of Mass Destruction, And Someday, Some Way, I Am Certain, He Will Use That Arsenal Again.” BERGER: “Some have suggested that we should basically turn away. We should close our eyes to this effort to create a safe haven for weapons of mass destruction. But imagine the consequences if Saddam fails to comply and we fail to act. Saddam will be emboldened believing the international community has lost its will. He will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction, and someday, some way, I am certain, he will use that arsenal again as he has 10 times since 1983.” (CNN’s “Showdown With Iraq: International Town Meeting,” 2/18/98)
Berger: “In The 21st Century, The Community Of Nations May See More And More Of This Very Kind Of Threat That Iraq Poses Now, A Rogue State With Biological And Chemical Weapons.” (CNN’s “Showdown With Iraq: International Town Meeting,” 2/18/98)
Berger Claimed It Was “Up To Saddam To Decide Whether He Wants Sanctions Relief By Giving Up His Weapons Of Mass Destruction.” BERGER: “[I]n December, Saddam Hussein once again broke his commitment to cooperate with the U.N. inspectors, ignoring our warnings. The United States, together with our British allies, responded with military force. We attacked Iraq’s program to develop and deliver weapons of mass destruction and his capacity to threaten his neighbors, but we have not eliminated the danger and our resolve to curb the threat Saddam poses will not diminish. … It is up to Saddam to decide whether he wants sanctions relief by giving up his weapons of mass destruction.” (Sandy Berger, Remarks To Carnegie Endowment Non-Proliferation Conference, Washington, DC, 1/12/99)
Berger: “I Think The Question Is Whether, Ultimately, Iraq Will Get Rid Of Its Weapons Of Mass Destruction.” (CBS’ This Morning, 11/16/98)
OTHER HIGH OFFICIALS IN THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION
Former Secretary Of State Warren Christopher Said Saddam Developed And Used WMD And Sponsored “Countless Acts Of Terrorism.” “The record is, unfortunately, all too clear. Saddam has threatened and invaded his neighbors, developed and used weapons of mass destruction, sponsored countless acts of terrorism, and for the last two decades, he has relentlessly persecuted the Kurds and the Shiites. When Saddam tests the will and resolve of the international community, our response must be and will be forceful and immediate.” (Warren Christopher, Remarks In Washington, DC, 9/3/96)
U.N. Ambassador Bill Richardson Linked Saddam To Anthrax, VX And Botulism, Warning Those Weapons Might “Get In The Hands Of Terrorists That Saddam Is Supporting.” RICHARDSON: “We’re [sic] what the American people want: contain Saddam Hussein from going after his neighbors, but also, go after these deadly weapons of anthrax, VX, botulisms, some that are very, very big threats to future generations of children, not just in the Persian Gulf and the Middle East, but around the world, if they get in the hands of terrorists that Saddam is supporting.” (CNN’s “Larry King Live,” 2/18/98)
Richardson: “Facts Are Facts. Iraq Has Been Deceiving The International Community With The Weaponization Of Nerve Gas. It’s That Simple.” (Michel Leclercq, “UN Inspector Says Iraq Equipped Weapons With Lethal Gas,” Agence France Presse, 6/24/98)
State Department Spokesman Jamie Rubin: Saddam Had “Relentlessly Deceived And Obstructed Efforts … To Identify And Destroy Iraq’s Weapons Of Mass Destruction.” RUBIN: “[W]e have a lot of experience dealing with Saddam Hussein. For over seven years, their leadership has relentlessly deceived and obstructed efforts by the international community to identify and destroy Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction. Saddam Hussein has misled fellow Arab leaders about his intention to invade Kuwait. He lied to UNSCOM when he said that he did not weaponize VX … Iraq’s leadership has never expressed regret or remorse for his past actions, which include gassing his own people and invading Kuwait. We do not believe he has renounced his aggression or using the most ruthless and barbaric means to achieve it.” (Jamie Rubin, State Department Press Briefing, 11/10/98)
Rubin: “If We Fail To Act, He Will Feel Emboldened To Threaten The Region Further, Armed With Weapons Of Mass Destruction.” RUBIN: “Saddam Hussein is not an abstract threat. He has fired Scuds at his neighbors, attacked Kuwait, used chemical weapons on Iran and his own people. UNSCOM has shown, through its work, that he developed massive quantities of chemical and biological weapons and weaponized those weapons for delivery by Scud missiles. He has still not accounted for all these dangerous weapons. … [I]f he continues to block UNSCOM and we do not respond, he will be able to reconstitute his weapons of mass destruction in a matter of months, not years. And if we fail to act, he will feel emboldened to threaten the region further, armed with weapons of mass destruction.” (Jamie Rubin, State Department Press Briefing, 11/10/98)
Former Clinton Adviser Rahm Emanuel Called It “Insulting” That Anyone Would Question Clinton’s ‘98 Airstrikes “Given Everything Saddam Has Done.” EMANUEL: “And I think that if you really look at this, Larry, that it is wrong, and I think it’s insulting to the American people’s intelligence, insulting to the men and women and professional professors [sic?] in our country, and I think it’s detrimental to our foreign policy to really kind of question why we would go, given everything that Saddam Hussein has done over the years. We gave him one last chance.” (CNN’s Larry King Live, 12/16/98)
DURING THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION, LEADING DEMOCRAT SENATORS CAUTIONED AMERICANS ABOUT THE THREAT POSED BY IRAQ’S WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION
In 1998, Sen. Carl Levin And Twenty-Six Other Senators Urged President Clinton “To Take Necessary Actions” In Response To Iraq’s Weapons Of Mass Destruction Programs. LEVIN: “Mr. President, today, along with Senators McCain, Lieberman, Hutchison and twenty-three other Senators, I am sending a letter to the President to express our concern over Iraq’s actions and urging the President ‘after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.’” (Sen. Carl Levin, Congressional Record, 10/9/98)
Fourteen Democrats, Including Then-Senate Democrat Leader Tom Daschle And 2004 Presidential Nominee John Kerry, Signed The Letter To President Clinton: (”Letter To President Clinton,” as Entered Into The Congressional Record By Sen. Carl Levin, 10/9/98)
Carl Levin (D-Mich.) Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.)
Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) Chris Dodd (D-Conn.)
Bob Kerrey (D-Neb.) Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.)
Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.) Thomas Daschle (D-S.D.)
John Breaux (D-La.) Tim Johnson (D-S.D.)
Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii) Mary Landrieu (D-La.)
Wendell Ford (D-Ky.) John Kerry (D-Mass.)
Former Senate Democrat Leader Tom Daschle (D-S.D.) Warned Of The Danger Of Saddam’s Weapons Of Mass Destruction. DASCHLE: “Iraq’s actions pose a serious and continued threat to international peace and security. It is a threat we must address…. Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people. It is essential that a dictator like Saddam not be allowed to evade international strictures and wield frightening weapons of mass destruction.” (Sen. Tom Daschle, Congressional Record, 2/12/98)
After The 1998 Bombing Of Iraq, Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) Warned Against “Partisan Finger-Pointing” And Said Saddam Was “Too Dangerous … To Be Given Carte Blanche With Weapons Of Mass Destruction.” “We had to attack. [President Clinton] had to do what his military advisors told him he should do,’ said Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev. … [A]dded Reid, ‘Now is not the time for second-guessing or partisan finger-pointing. National security concerns must come first.’ Saddam Hussein â€?is too dangerous of a man to be given carte blanche with weapons of mass destruction,’ he added.” (Brendan Riley, “Nevada Leaders React To Iraq Bombing,” The Associated Press, 12/26/98)
Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) Argued That Saddam “Obviously” Was Working, “Secretly And Otherwise,” On Weapons Of Mass Destruction. KERRY: “Mr. President, over the years, a consensus has developed within the international community that the production and use of weapons of mass destruction has to be halted. We and others worked hard to develop arms control regimes toward that end, but obviously Saddam Hussein’s goal is to do otherwise. Iraq and North Korea and others have made it clear that they are still trying, secretly and otherwise, to develop those weapons.” (Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 10/10/98)
Kerry Said Saddam Used Weapons Of Mass Destruction In The Past And Wanted “To Try … To Continue To Do So.” “Saddam Hussein has already used these weapons and has made it clear that he has the intent to continue to try, by virtue of his duplicity and secrecy, to continue to do so. … It is a threat with respect to the potential of terrorist activities on a global basis.” (Sen. John Kerry, Press Conference, 2/23/98)
Following A Briefing By Clinton Administration Officials, Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) Said Saddam’s “Chemical And Biological Weapons Capabilities” Were “Frightening.” “At a Capitol Hill briefing Tuesday night, administration officials showed that â€?Saddam Hussein continues to be clear threat to the security of the region and to many of our allies,’ Durbin said. â€?His chemical and biological weapons capabilities are frightening. We have to take his refusal to allow inspections very seriously.’” (Dori Meinert, “Durbin To Support Limited Approval For Military Force Against Iraq,” Copley News Service, 2/4/98)
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) Believed The Peace Of “Much Of The World” Was At Risk If Iraq Was Allowed To Protect Its “Biological, Chemical And Nuclear Weapons.” “‘Time and time again Iraq has flouted the efforts of our nation and the international community to bring peace to the Persian Gulf,’ said Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va. â€?With the peace of the region and, and in fact, much of the world at risk, we cannot allow Iraq to continue its maneuvers designed to protect such a dangerous buildup of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons.’” (John Raby, “Congressmen Support U.S. Bombing Of Iraq,” The Associated Press, 12/16/98)
Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.): “Saddam Hussein’s Weapons Of Mass Destruction Programs And The Means To Deliver Them Are A Menace To International Peace And Security.” LEVIN: “Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction programs and the means to deliver them are a menace to international peace and security. They pose a threat to Iraq’s neighbors, to U.S. forces in the Gulf region, to the world’s energy supplies, and to the integrity and credibility of the United Nations Security Council.” (Sen. Carl Levin, Congressional Record, 2/12/98)
Levin Spoke Of Gallons Of Anthrax And Tons Of VX, Noting Iraq Had Denied Possessing Such Weapons. LEVIN: “[I]t was only after there was a defector, Saddam Hussein’s own son- in-law defected and said, look here, here, here, and here that then Iraq said oh, yes, we have 2100 gallons of anthrax. By the way, one spore, less than a drop of anthrax kills within days. 2100 gallons and then the U.N. went in and destroyed that. Same thing with the chemical VX; 3.9 million tons of this chemical. One drop kills instantaneously — was denied by Iraq. The U.N. … believes that he has 20 tons plus more of VX and six thousand gallons more of anthrax.” (CNN’s Larry King Live, 2/16/98)
Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.) Issued Grave Warnings About Iraq’s WMD, Citing Chemical And Biological Weapons As Well As Anthrax-Tipped Missiles. “First and foremost, an Iraq left free to develop weapons of mass destruction would pose a grave threat to our national security. The current regime in Iraq has … displayed a callous willingness to use chemical weapons to achieve its aims. Recently, we have heard chilling reports of possible biological weapons experiments on humans. An UNSCOM Inspector has spoken of information that points to a secret biological weapons production facility. And Ambassador Richard Butler has told us that Iraq could well have missile warheads filled with anthrax capable of striking Tel Aviv. An asymmetric capability of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons gives an otherwise weak country the power to intimidate and blackmail.” (Sen. Joseph Biden, Congressional Record, 2/12/98)
Due To Saddam’s Efforts To Assemble Biological, Nuclear And Chemical Weapons, Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) Argued In 1999 That Clinton “Ended The Bombings Too Soon.” “Senator Schumer is taking issue with several recent decisions of the Clinton administration on Middle Eastern affairs, despite his close association with the president and first lady. … Schumer said America should renew its bombing campaign against Iraq … A renewed bombing campaign against Iraq would show Saddam Hussein the price he must pay for his lack of cooperation and would inhibit Iraq’s ability to assemble biological, nuclear and chemical weapons, Mr. Schumer said. ‘The president ended the bombings too soon.’” (Uriel Heilman, “Schumer Says Clinton Should Resume Bombing Targets In Iraq,” Forward, 1/29/99)
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) Warned That Military Action Against Saddam’s Regime “Must Deal A Major Setback” To Iraq’s “Weapons Of Mass Destruction Program.” “Feinstein also said that for the attack against Iraq to be successful, the air strikes must â€?destroy the weapons of mass-destruction facilities and supplies that the thwarted inspections were designed to find…’ â€?At the very least,’ she added, â€?Operation Desert Fox must deal a major setback to the weapons of mass destruction program that has been in development by Saddam Hussein.’” (Stephen Green, “Feinstein Initially Questioned Attack’s Timing,” Copley News Service, 12/17/98)
DRAWING UPON INTELLIGENCE PROVIDED BY TWO ADMINISTRATIONS, DEMOCRAT SENATORS CONTINUED TO OPENLY DISCUSS THE DANGER POSED BY IRAQ’S WEAPONS
Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) Acknowledged Iraq Breached The 1991 Armistice Agreement By Refusing To Destroy Its Stockpiles Of Weapons. REID: “We stopped the fighting [in 1991] based on an agreement that Iraq would take steps to assure the world that it would not engage in further aggression and that it would destroy its weapons of mass destruction. It has refused to take those steps. That refusal constitutes a breach of the armistice which renders it void and justifies resumption of the armed conflict.” (Sen. Harry Reid, Congressional Record, 10/9/02)
Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.): “We Have Known For Many Years That Saddam Hussein Is Seeking And Developing Weapons Of Mass Destruction.” (Sen. Edward Kennedy, Remarks At Johns Hopkins School Of Advanced International Studies, 10/27/02)
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.): “Saddam’s Existing Biological And Chemical Weapons Capabilities Pose Real Threats To America Today, Tomorrow.” ROCKEFELLER: “We must eliminate that [potential nuclear] threat now before it is too late. But that isn’t just a future threat. Saddam’s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose real threats to America today, tomorrow. … [He] is working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and U.S. facilities in the Middle East. He could make these weapons available to many terrorist groups, third parties, which have contact with his government. Those groups, in turn, could bring those weapons into the United States and unleash a devastating attack against our citizens. I fear that greatly.” (Sen. Jay Rockefeller, Congressional Record, 10/10/02)
Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) Believed Saddam’s “Arsenal Of Weapons Of Mass Destruction” Represented “An Unacceptable Threat.” KERRY: “The Iraqi regime’s record over the decade leaves little doubt that Saddam Hussein wants to retain his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and, obviously, as we have said, grow it. These weapons represent an unacceptable threat.” (Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 10/9/02)
Kerry: “According To The CIA’s Report, All U.S. Intelligence Experts Agree That Iraq Is Seeking Nuclear Weapons. There Is Little Question That Saddam Hussein Wants To Develop Nuclear Weapons.” (Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 10/9/02)
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) Warned That — If Left Unchecked — Saddam Would Continue To Increase His Unconventional Weaponry And Even Develop Nuclear Weapons. CLINTON: “In the four years since the inspectors, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. … It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capability to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.” (Sen. Hillary Clinton, Congressional Record, 10/10/02)
Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) Said Saddam Was A “Terrible Danger” To America Because Of His “Vigorous Pursuit” Of Weapons Of Mass Destruction. SCHUMER: “[It] is Hussein’s vigorous pursuit of biological, chemical and nuclear weapons, and his present and potential future support for terrorist acts and organizations, that make him a terrible danger to the people to the United States.” (Sen. Charles Schumer, Congressional Record, 10/10/02)
Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) Claimed To “Understand The Grave Danger Posed To America … By Weapons Of Mass Destruction In The Hands Of A Reckless Dictator Like Saddam Hussein.” “Saddam Hussein is a brutal dictator, who has brought nothing but pain and suffering to the Iraqi people and threat and instability to his neighbors throughout the Persian Gulf and the Middle East. … I understand the grave danger posed to America and the whole international community by weapons of mass destruction in the hands of a reckless dictator like Saddam Hussein.” (Sen. Tom Harkin, Congressional Record, 10/10/02)
Sen. Joe Biden (D-Del.) Announced In 2002 That Within Five Years Saddam Would Possess “Tactical Or Theater Nuclear Weapons.” BIDEN: “My view is if five years from now Saddam Hussein is in power, left unfettered with $5 billion to $7 billion a year to pursue his weapons, he will be a grave danger to us, in the sense that he will intimidate the area and we will be unwilling to go after him because he’ll have tactical or theater nuclear weapons.” (CNN’s Larry King Live, 10/9/02)
Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.) Simply Stated: “There Is No Question That Iraq Possesses Biological And Chemical Weapons.” DODD: “There is no question that Iraq possesses biological and chemical weapons and that he seeks to acquire additional weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear weapons. That is not in debate. I also agree with President Bush that Saddam Hussein is a threat to peace and must be disarmed, to quote President Bush directly.” (Sen. Chris Dodd, Congressional Record, 10/8/02)
Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) Felt Saddam’s Chemical And Biological Weapons Posed “A Considerable Threat To Us.” NELSON: “Well, I believe he has chemical and biological weapons. I think he’s trying to develop nuclear weapons. And the fact that he might use those is a considerable threat to us.” (CNBC’s “Tim Russert,” 9/14/02)
Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) Listed The Weapons At Saddam’s Disposal: “Ballistic Missiles, Anthrax, Sarin Gas, VX And Smallpox.” BAYH: “Today, Hussein already has ballistic missiles, anthrax, sarin gas, VX and smallpox, and he could someday soon have nuclear weapons at his disposal. As much as I wish we could ignore this threat, it is my heartfelt conviction that we cannot.” (Sen. Evan Bayh, Op-Ed, “Bayh Justifies The Need For Using Force Against Iraq,” The Indianapolis Star, 10/10/02)
(This document was distributed today at the Senate Republican Policy Lunch.)
November 15th, 2005 at 5:25 pmAnd was copied directly from Democrats, only the facts and a few things were changed.
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November 16th, 2005 at 12:59 pm