28 Responses to ““In recent days, Fitzgerald has reinterviewed several witnesses”
Citizen80203 says:
“The stakes in the global war on traitors are too high, and the national interest is too important, for prosecutors to throw out false charges”
“While it’s perfectly legitimate to criticize my decision or the conduct of these traitors in the white house, it is deeply irresponsible to rewrite the history of how that treason began.”
I am trying to reconcile the fact that the interviews are still taking place (Rove’s former chief of staff on Monday) with the talk through the MSM that Rove seems to be “back to his old self,” like his worries are lessening.
Rove is back to himself alright. Some of the more konservative of the WhackJobRight are complaining that Queen Karl has been recently spotted frequenting his favorite gay night club and having a seemingly fun time with his 300 pound friend.
I’m telling you St. Patrick is going to bring these guys down like Autumn leaves in the Aspens. They’re connected by their conspiratorial roots you know…
As a Brit I would like to thank everyone who maturely participates in and supports think progress. You should all know that you have a lot of supporters from around the world in what you are doing to fight the neocon bastardisers of democracy and peace. Keep up the effort – you are not alone!!
WTC Basement Blast And Injured Burn Victim Blows ‘Official 9/11 Story’ Sky High; Eye Witness Testimony Is Conclusive That North Tower Collapsed From Controlled Demolition
WTC janitor pulls burn victim to safety after basement explosion rocks north tower seconds before jetliner hit top floors. Also, two other men trapped and drowning in a basement elevator shaft, were also pulled to safety from underground explosion..
24 Jun 2005
By Greg Szymanski
What happened to William Rodriguez the morning of 9/11 is a miracle. What happened to his story after-the-fact is a tragedy.
But with miracles and tragedies comes truth. And truth is exactly what Rodriguez brings to the whole mystery surrounding 9/11.
Declared a hero for saving numerous lives at Ground Zero, he was the janitor on duty the morning of 9/11 who heard and felt explosions rock the basement sub-levels of the north tower just seconds before the jetliner struck the top floors.
He not only claims he felt explosions coming from below the first sub-level while working in the basement, he says the walls were cracking around him and he pulled a man to safety by the name of Felipe David, who was severely burned from the basement explosions.
All these events occurred only seconds before and during the jetliner strike above. And through it all, he now asks a simple question everybody should be asking? How could a jetliner hit 90 floors above and burn a man’s arms and face to a crisp in the basement below within seconds of impact?
#12…Ryan, I think you are correct on that… his reputation is rock solid on how he approaches indictments and litigation. That’s why I’m confident in saying, if he finds and proves guilt they should pay, no one is above our judicial system or it doesn’t work. Same would apply if he finds no evidence, but neither Rove or Libby are credible at this point and I think he will probably get both of them. American politics will survive that…and be stronger because of it.
But Fitzmas has been cancelled. Didn’t you get the memo. If he had the goods on Rove in the first place, I think he would have already indicted him. Now, the real fun begins in Libby’s trial when we get to see Wilson try to explain all of the lies he has told. Merry Wilson!
#17, Ryan the part of your statement that most resonates to me is the complicity of the media. They simply did not do their job in the run up, traded objectivity for ‘embedded’ and even now they bleat if challenged…..shameful.
Where were these silly wingnuts yesterday when the story on the cancelled hearings for Veterans was up?
What’s the wingnut spin on that story, I-Wrong, wwallace, and you other loony toons?
Fitz is using his usual style, he will get to the bottom of the issue. He is like a bloodhound,once he gets the scent, he is relentless chasing it down. I would hate tohave him investigating me, if I did anything wrong, LOL
I agree as well. It seems as though good, hard, investigative journalism is a thing of the past these days.
Locally, there is the exception of our independent weekely (www.theind.com, BTW), but look at the three cable channels (CNN, Feaux, MSNBC), they all rely on their “sources”, they all have the same stories at the same times: all fed by talking points and re-runs of press releases from each side.
Thirty channels and nothing on!
I guess it would erode profits or something, you know, to hire someone who could do more than look good in front of a camera.
“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.â€
- George W. Bush, 5/24/05
I supported George W. Bush in the presidential election in 2000, believing then that he best reflected my love for America and for our tradition of liberty. I supported the war in Afghanistan. In March of 2003, I believed that the invasion of Iraq was justified based upon pre-war revelations presented to Congress and to the American people. Accordingly, the indictments contained herein apply, first and foremost, to myself.
Many Americans whom I know and love, including many current supporters of President Bush, remain conflicted over both his ultimate intentions in Iraq as well as domestic curtailment of civil liberties.
Many have given the benefit of the doubt to President Bush, and, in a misdirected spirit of unity, have supported, as did I, Administration policies that conflict with our essential values.
This essay explores many of the issues that led me personally to the recognition that the policies I was supporting in Iraq were not consistent with the justifications made for the invasion in the spring of 2003, that implicit in our post-invasion actions was the goal of permanent occupation, which would ensure endless war and the resultant degradation of our liberty, our security, and our moral authority.
For me, recognizing that I could no longer support the President for whom I voted, and the occupation of a land we had invaded, remains personally painful.
I have learned that while it is difficult to admit being wrong, such recognition is a prerequisite for redemptive action, necessary both for individual growth and for the healing of our nation.
It is in this spirit that I submit these reflections.
No matter what the right-wing spin is, I don’t think Rove is “out of the woods” at all. If Matthew Cooper’s account of their conversation is accurate, Rove told him, “This will all be declassified soon.” This suggests two important things: That the information Rove was giving Miller was still classified at the time, and that he knew it was still classified at the time. Given the entire context of the whole business of how Valerie Wilson’s name and employment status made it into Robert “More Fresh Puppy Blood, Please†Novak’s column, I think a jury would reject all of Rove’s previously-leaked explanations.
Leaking classified information that reveals government wrongdoing (often classified illegally to keep it out of the public domain) is one thing, but leaking classified information to attack your political enemies is morally repugnant. President Bush must publicly say that he will not grant any pardons to Scooter Libby. This will give Special Counsel Fitzgerald leverage to lean on Libby to come completely clean (which Libby has not done yet.) This is the exact same kind of leverage that President Bush sought when he asked Congress to grant him authority to attack Iraq before he went to the U.N. Then he told the U.N. that if they didn’t act to show that they should not be defied, then he would act in defiance of them. Kind of surreal when you think about it.
Well Said Dr. Frey.
But dont think of it as being wrong.
As we go thru life many things cause us to reconsider our positions, the humble man accepts this, and continues forward.
As you have.
“The stakes in the global war on traitors are too high, and the national interest is too important, for prosecutors to throw out false charges”
“While it’s perfectly legitimate to criticize my decision or the conduct of these traitors in the white house, it is deeply irresponsible to rewrite the history of how that treason began.”
November 11th, 2005 at 5:53 pmI am trying to reconcile the fact that the interviews are still taking place (Rove’s former chief of staff on Monday) with the talk through the MSM that Rove seems to be “back to his old self,” like his worries are lessening.
November 11th, 2005 at 5:58 pmPLEEEEEASE, FITZSY!!!!!
I’m counting on you. The country, Hell the WORLD, needs you to hold these bastards accountable.
November 11th, 2005 at 6:01 pmWe need a Merry Fitzmas.
Rove is back to himself alright. Some of the more konservative of the WhackJobRight are complaining that Queen Karl has been recently spotted frequenting his favorite gay night club and having a seemingly fun time with his 300 pound friend.
November 11th, 2005 at 6:16 pm#4–eeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww…..
November 11th, 2005 at 6:24 pm(MUST get visual out of head)……
I’m telling you St. Patrick is going to bring these guys down like Autumn leaves in the Aspens. They’re connected by their conspiratorial roots you know…
Coming to a theater near you: Kevin Bacon to play Libby in upcoming “Six Degrees of Scooterâ€
November 11th, 2005 at 6:27 pmTrue Blue – only too true!
As a Brit I would like to thank everyone who maturely participates in and supports think progress. You should all know that you have a lot of supporters from around the world in what you are doing to fight the neocon bastardisers of democracy and peace. Keep up the effort – you are not alone!!
November 11th, 2005 at 6:31 pmIt’s not over until The Fat Man sings….in the shower…of the federal pokey….
November 11th, 2005 at 7:06 pmThanks, Gary!
November 11th, 2005 at 7:06 pmCan I come live in YOUR country…..? :)
The POSSIBLE smoking Gun of the WTC “pull”
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/28031.htm
WTC Basement Blast And Injured Burn Victim Blows ‘Official 9/11 Story’ Sky High; Eye Witness Testimony Is Conclusive That North Tower Collapsed From Controlled Demolition
WTC janitor pulls burn victim to safety after basement explosion rocks north tower seconds before jetliner hit top floors. Also, two other men trapped and drowning in a basement elevator shaft, were also pulled to safety from underground explosion..
24 Jun 2005
By Greg Szymanski
What happened to William Rodriguez the morning of 9/11 is a miracle. What happened to his story after-the-fact is a tragedy.
But with miracles and tragedies comes truth. And truth is exactly what Rodriguez brings to the whole mystery surrounding 9/11.
Declared a hero for saving numerous lives at Ground Zero, he was the janitor on duty the morning of 9/11 who heard and felt explosions rock the basement sub-levels of the north tower just seconds before the jetliner struck the top floors.
He not only claims he felt explosions coming from below the first sub-level while working in the basement, he says the walls were cracking around him and he pulled a man to safety by the name of Felipe David, who was severely burned from the basement explosions.
All these events occurred only seconds before and during the jetliner strike above. And through it all, he now asks a simple question everybody should be asking? How could a jetliner hit 90 floors above and burn a man’s arms and face to a crisp in the basement below within seconds of impact?
See Link Above for Full Article –AJ
November 11th, 2005 at 7:09 pmrawstory.org says Fitzgerald is trying to get Libby to implicate Rove.
richb
November 11th, 2005 at 7:22 pm#12…Ryan, I think you are correct on that… his reputation is rock solid on how he approaches indictments and litigation. That’s why I’m confident in saying, if he finds and proves guilt they should pay, no one is above our judicial system or it doesn’t work. Same would apply if he finds no evidence, but neither Rove or Libby are credible at this point and I think he will probably get both of them. American politics will survive that…and be stronger because of it.
richb
November 11th, 2005 at 8:41 pmThe Niger uranium fraud. The al-Libi fabrications. White House pressure on the CIA. Get the latest PlameGate news in:
“The Rove/PlameGate Scandal Resource Center.”
November 11th, 2005 at 8:43 pmSorry True Blue,
But Fitzmas has been cancelled. Didn’t you get the memo. If he had the goods on Rove in the first place, I think he would have already indicted him. Now, the real fun begins in Libby’s trial when we get to see Wilson try to explain all of the lies he has told. Merry Wilson!
November 11th, 2005 at 8:56 pmFitz is doing a good job of convicting former Governor of Illinois George Ryan.
Keep up the good work Fitz!
November 11th, 2005 at 9:09 pmIs anyone having trouble posting? I keep getting “you already said that”…
Anyone?
November 11th, 2005 at 9:17 pm#17, Ryan the part of your statement that most resonates to me is the complicity of the media. They simply did not do their job in the run up, traded objectivity for ‘embedded’ and even now they bleat if challenged…..shameful.
richb
November 11th, 2005 at 9:23 pmWhere were these silly wingnuts yesterday when the story on the cancelled hearings for Veterans was up?
What’s the wingnut spin on that story, I-Wrong, wwallace, and you other loony toons?
Fitz is using his usual style, he will get to the bottom of the issue. He is like a bloodhound,once he gets the scent, he is relentless chasing it down. I would hate tohave him investigating me, if I did anything wrong, LOL
November 11th, 2005 at 9:26 pmAll better now.
November 11th, 2005 at 9:33 pm#20, #17…
I agree as well. It seems as though good, hard, investigative journalism is a thing of the past these days.
Locally, there is the exception of our independent weekely (www.theind.com, BTW), but look at the three cable channels (CNN, Feaux, MSNBC), they all rely on their “sources”, they all have the same stories at the same times: all fed by talking points and re-runs of press releases from each side.
Thirty channels and nothing on!
I guess it would erode profits or something, you know, to hire someone who could do more than look good in front of a camera.
November 11th, 2005 at 11:25 pm#10:
November 11th, 2005 at 11:35 pmYou post some interesting stuff, but would you please do us all a favor and keep your posts on-topic? Thanks!
#10, your post is something Fitz is definately interested in reading. The Plame leak is only one crime we want convictions on.
We also want to convict Bushie for the murder of 3000 Americans. We also want him to pay restitution for the financial loss of 9-11.
November 11th, 2005 at 11:39 pmTo attend a free screening of Greenwalds Walmart movie…
http://www.walmartmovie.com/find.php?track=moore
November 12th, 2005 at 12:13 amConfessions of a Repentant Republican
by William Frey, M. D.
“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.â€
- George W. Bush, 5/24/05
I supported George W. Bush in the presidential election in 2000, believing then that he best reflected my love for America and for our tradition of liberty. I supported the war in Afghanistan. In March of 2003, I believed that the invasion of Iraq was justified based upon pre-war revelations presented to Congress and to the American people. Accordingly, the indictments contained herein apply, first and foremost, to myself.
Many Americans whom I know and love, including many current supporters of President Bush, remain conflicted over both his ultimate intentions in Iraq as well as domestic curtailment of civil liberties.
Many have given the benefit of the doubt to President Bush, and, in a misdirected spirit of unity, have supported, as did I, Administration policies that conflict with our essential values.
This essay explores many of the issues that led me personally to the recognition that the policies I was supporting in Iraq were not consistent with the justifications made for the invasion in the spring of 2003, that implicit in our post-invasion actions was the goal of permanent occupation, which would ensure endless war and the resultant degradation of our liberty, our security, and our moral authority.
For me, recognizing that I could no longer support the President for whom I voted, and the occupation of a land we had invaded, remains personally painful.
I have learned that while it is difficult to admit being wrong, such recognition is a prerequisite for redemptive action, necessary both for individual growth and for the healing of our nation.
It is in this spirit that I submit these reflections.
William Frey, M. D.
November, 2005
http://www.republicansforhumility.com/
November 12th, 2005 at 12:42 amNo matter what the right-wing spin is, I don’t think Rove is “out of the woods” at all. If Matthew Cooper’s account of their conversation is accurate, Rove told him, “This will all be declassified soon.” This suggests two important things: That the information Rove was giving Miller was still classified at the time, and that he knew it was still classified at the time. Given the entire context of the whole business of how Valerie Wilson’s name and employment status made it into Robert “More Fresh Puppy Blood, Please†Novak’s column, I think a jury would reject all of Rove’s previously-leaked explanations.
Leaking classified information that reveals government wrongdoing (often classified illegally to keep it out of the public domain) is one thing, but leaking classified information to attack your political enemies is morally repugnant. President Bush must publicly say that he will not grant any pardons to Scooter Libby. This will give Special Counsel Fitzgerald leverage to lean on Libby to come completely clean (which Libby has not done yet.) This is the exact same kind of leverage that President Bush sought when he asked Congress to grant him authority to attack Iraq before he went to the U.N. Then he told the U.N. that if they didn’t act to show that they should not be defied, then he would act in defiance of them. Kind of surreal when you think about it.
November 12th, 2005 at 8:47 amCorrection: That should read “Rove was giving Cooper” – apologies.
November 12th, 2005 at 8:47 am#27
Well Said Dr. Frey.
But dont think of it as being wrong.
As we go thru life many things cause us to reconsider our positions, the humble man accepts this, and continues forward.
As you have.
Glad to have you aboard Doc.
November 12th, 2005 at 1:32 pmDR. FREY
Even a blind pig finds an acorn every once in a while.
November 12th, 2005 at 1:59 pm