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]]> By: Akkam’s Razor » Up is down…black is white…dogs sleeping with cats…WTF?!? http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/12/washington-post-on-prewar-intel/comment-page-1/#comment-218402 Akkam’s Razor » Up is down…black is white…dogs sleeping with cats…WTF?!? Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:41:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/12/washington-post-on-prewar-intel/#comment-218402 [...] The GOP Legislature and the White House is turning back to the same old, tired strategies - “everyone saw the same intelligence on Iraq (which of course, is not true), .  How long till the next “captured Al Qaeda lieutenant, renewed terror threats, and shrill warnings of mushroom clouds coming out of Iran, Syria, or France. [...] [...] The GOP Legislature and the White House is turning back to the same old, tired strategies – “everyone saw the same intelligence on Iraq (which of course, is not true), .  How long till the next “captured Al Qaeda lieutenant, renewed terror threats, and shrill warnings of mushroom clouds coming out of Iran, Syria, or France. [...]

]]> By: Pablo in Mexico http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/12/washington-post-on-prewar-intel/comment-page-1/#comment-216473 Pablo in Mexico Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:38:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/12/washington-post-on-prewar-intel/#comment-216473 STEPHEN HERMAN Give Bush the benefit of the doubt? What an asinine remark. That is what has been happening for the past five years, and look where we are. Visit your website. Not me man, take your shit and peddle it someplace else. You try to sound like an intelligent person, but you are all wrapped up in the masking tape of the ultra-right. You will never escape because you lost your cutting knife years ago. STEPHEN HERMAN

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]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/12/washington-post-on-prewar-intel/comment-page-1/#comment-216362 Marie Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:47:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/12/washington-post-on-prewar-intel/#comment-216362 The fact remains -- Bush & Co. had intel that not everyone had. Congress rec'd only the selected intel. One can blame Congress for not doing their due diligence, but one cannot blame them for reacting to the public's emotional state at the time and believing that Buch&Co. would not lie about war. Several are now coming forward saying they regret their vote -- sounds like too little too late -- but better to confess that one was bamboozled by a con job rather than continue to defend a mistaken vote. The fact remains — Bush & Co. had intel that not everyone had. Congress rec’d only the selected intel. One can blame Congress for not doing their due diligence, but one cannot blame them for reacting to the public’s emotional state at the time and believing that Buch&Co. would not lie about war.
Several are now coming forward saying they regret their vote — sounds like too little too late — but better to confess that one was bamboozled by a con job rather than continue to defend a mistaken vote.

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I read it and the NYT as well, but they can make a reader’s head spin…these two main papers of the nation.
After reading their lead articles, I read the editorials and op-eds — I am furious that the NYT makes a reader PAY $50 a year now to read op-eds.

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]]> By: Innocent Bystander http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/12/washington-post-on-prewar-intel/comment-page-1/#comment-216339 Innocent Bystander Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:13:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/12/washington-post-on-prewar-intel/#comment-216339 Check this story out at DU: 10/5/01: Bush Pulls Security Clearances From 92 Senators “We can’t have leaks of classified information. It’s not in our nation’s interest.” - President George W. Bush, 10/9/01 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5340848 Was this to obstruct known intel of the 9/11 warnings or a shutdown of intel in advance of the marketing of the Iraq War? Either way, it looks like Bush did make the intel off-limits to our Senators. Check this story out at DU:

10/5/01: Bush Pulls Security Clearances From 92 Senators

“We can’t have leaks of classified information. It’s not in our nation’s interest.” – President George W. Bush, 10/9/01

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104×5340848

Was this to obstruct known intel of the 9/11 warnings or a shutdown of intel in advance of the marketing of the Iraq War? Either way, it looks like Bush did make the intel off-limits to our Senators.

]]> By: IraqVet http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/12/washington-post-on-prewar-intel/comment-page-1/#comment-216323 IraqVet Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:50:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/12/washington-post-on-prewar-intel/#comment-216323 Well, well… When one’s hands get caught in the cookie jar, you either remove your hand without the evidence or take a portion and attempt to conceal the crime… Classified data can be collected and distributed to members of Congress, but the portions that ONLY pertain to the matter in question. Then you have some plausible deniability saying, “I did not think those documents were pertinent to the issue or my staff created the dossier for Congress for their approval of our findings.” Bush is a fool, but with the corrupt circle, he avoids a lot of crimes that should have been disclosed long ago…He KNEW that there was not enough evidence in those documents, and he KNEW that there were no ties to Al Queda. But, at the end of the day, “if” your boss says he wants something a certain way, you either produce it his way, or lose your job! Coercion? Extortion? Manipulation? Deception? Fabrication? All have a suffix that indicates an action taken place after the deed has been accomplished… Within that concept, ETHICS and MORALS each have 6 letters, and it was one too many for the 5 members who created this war of fear and incompetence. Well, well…

When one’s hands get caught in the cookie jar, you either remove your hand without the evidence or take a portion and attempt to conceal the crime…

Classified data can be collected and distributed to members of Congress, but the portions that ONLY pertain to the matter in question. Then you have some plausible deniability saying, “I did not think those documents were pertinent to the issue or my staff created the dossier for Congress for their approval of our findings.”

Bush is a fool, but with the corrupt circle, he avoids a lot of crimes that should have been disclosed long ago…He KNEW that there was not enough evidence in those documents, and he KNEW that there were no ties to Al Queda. But, at the end of the day, “if” your boss says he wants something a certain way, you either produce it his way, or lose your job! Coercion? Extortion? Manipulation? Deception? Fabrication? All have a suffix that indicates an action taken place after the deed has been accomplished…

Within that concept, ETHICS and MORALS each have 6 letters, and it was one too many for the 5 members who created this war of fear and incompetence.

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