VIDEO: Schmidt’s Shame
Rep. Jean Schmidt (R-OH) today on the House floor, speaking about Rep. John Murtha (D-PA), a decorated former Marine:
Yesterday I stood at Arlington National Cemetery attending the funeral of a young marine in my district. He believed in what we were doing is the right thing and had the courage to lay his life on the line to do it. A few minutes ago I received a call from Colonel Danny Bubp, Ohio Representative from the 88th district in the House of Representatives. He asked me to send Congress a message: Stay the course. He also asked me to send Congressman Murtha a message, that cowards cut and run, Marines never do. Danny and the rest of America and the world want the assurance from this body – that we will see this through.
Schmidt was later forced to return to the House floor and have her remarks stricken from the record. Despite having said the purpose of her “coward” statement was to “send Congressman Murtha a message,” Schmidt claimed:
Mr. Speaker, my remarks were not directed to any member of the House and I did not intend to suggest they applied to any member, most especially the distinguished gentleman from Pennsylvania.
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Marines don’t decide if we fight wars. Neither does Schmidt.
November 18th, 2005 at 6:46 pmWhat a flaming B*TCH. Quite the flattering picture, too. Good job, TP!
November 18th, 2005 at 6:46 pmThat’s it we’re pissed……….Filibuster Alito Now
If they want to play the eye for an eye game then oblige them.
To speak out is PATRIOTIC to follow blindly is MORONIC!
http://www.illmethinks.com
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November 18th, 2005 at 6:47 pmbring them down….it’s time
http://www.illmethinks.com
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November 18th, 2005 at 6:47 pmSomeone should have aborted her political career a long time ago. What an evil creepy and insane bitch that woman is! (Sorry to bitches everywhere to compare you to her)
November 18th, 2005 at 6:49 pm“A few minutes ago I received a call from Colonel Danny Bop, Ohio Representative from the 88th district in the House of Representatives. He asked me to send Congress a message: Stay the course. He also asked me to send Congressman Murtha a message, that cowards cut and run,”
We know, cowards have girls do their talking for them.
November 18th, 2005 at 6:51 pmThis is getting nuts….
November 18th, 2005 at 6:53 pmWATCH THE VOTE LIVE
http://www.bareknucklepolitics.com
The vote is soon…
Hmmm… Seems to me that “Cowards withdraw their statements, Heros stand by them…”
November 18th, 2005 at 6:54 pmo’reillian satire on the house floor? they’ve really sunk to a new low now.
November 18th, 2005 at 6:58 pmWho in the hell does she represent? This is crazy! You think she spent all her political capital in one place?
November 18th, 2005 at 7:00 pmJust for the record it’s not Colonel Danny Bop, it’s Colonel Danny R. Bubp.
Maybe he should explain his comments to Schmidt about Congressman Murtha! Contact info below;
http://www.house.state.oh.us/ jsps/ MemberDetails.jsp?DISTRICT=88
November 18th, 2005 at 7:05 pmThe military does not decide foriegn policy, civilians do. We are not run by a military junta….yet!
November 18th, 2005 at 7:06 pmThat video of Ms. Schmidt calling a decorated war veteran and long distinguished member of the House of Reps a ‘coward’ will make a nice campaign ad for her opponent in the next election.
She barely won that seat .. hopefully this despicable display will ensure her defeat.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:07 pmA political nobody trying to get her name in the national papers by using an over the cliff smear. Seen it before haven’t we?
November 18th, 2005 at 7:13 pmI just love the whole “Troops support the war and believe in it because they are there and they die”. I can tell you from personal experience as a Desert Storm combat vet that military personnel have zero say in what goes on and are expected to perform regardless of politics. Personally I hated both wars and felt the best support you could give me, as a soldier, was to get my butt out of there and back home.
Disrespecting the troops involves making them fight and die for fabricated reasons while attacking anyone trying to bring them home.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:15 pmShe looks like she is going to go to a tacky country line dance off. I should help out her Democratic opponent in 2006.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:19 pmWas Col. Bop a Republican per chance? Our service men and women will kill and be killed without compromise or question. That is why our elected representatives have to take control of this fiasco and bring our troops home. If one looks at the diary of a flight surgeon in Iraqon the New England Journal of Medicine, where he discusses and illustrates
November 18th, 2005 at 7:20 pmgraphically “typical” wounds, you can see how horrifically our soldiers are being maimed and disfigured. If the likes of Jean Schmidt can look at those images and still support our tropps then she probably didn’t give birth to her children, rather she hatched them.
Mickey Mouse could run against her in the next election, with only one campaign commercial, cut directly from CSPAN.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:22 pmLook at her disrespecting my flag with that crappy dress.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:23 pmhttp://www.crooksandliars.com has a more appropriate pic of the tick.
Jean Full of Schmidt
Jean Schmidt, who defeated Iraq war veteran Paul Hackett for her seat in Ohio, shut down the House of Representatives by challenging the courage of decorated Vietnam War veteran Jack Murtha, saying “cowards cut and run.” The place exploded. It was probably everybody pulling out their Blackberries and Googling Jean Schmidt’s war record, where they no doubt found her history as the head of Cincinnati Right to Life. Presumably if Murtha’s combat experience had been blowing up local Planned Parenthood clinics, that would have qualified.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:25 pmposted by Jane at firedoglake
I don’t care if this lady is a Stooge or a Patriot she was elected. I just have to laugh at the outrage, are you all mad because her constiuents were fooled or maybe just maybe they agree with her? If the current administration is to blame for any of this mess it’s the quick we don’t have time for healthy debate we could be ruined by waiting, while also recogonizing the political suicide by the ELECTED offficials not clicking their heels and saying well better them than us. Communism, Islamofascism, what’s next Pandoepidemilogicalpathogenism? Fear it does a party good.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:25 pmPretty pathetic! Think about it, Cheney could not respond effectively to the “5 deferments” comments to they had to find a female shill.
What a coward Cheney is!
November 18th, 2005 at 7:25 pmWhat’s the matter with Ohio?
November 18th, 2005 at 7:28 pmDisrespecting the troops involves making them fight and die for fabricated reasons while attacking anyone trying to bring them home.
Comment by nada — November 18, 2005 @ 7:15 pm
I couldn’t have said it better.
Welcome aboard.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:30 pmI think her hair was pulled back a little too tight. All she needs is a broom.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:33 pm#23
I got relatives in Ohio. It is not them. My relatives fully believe as do many of the residents in Ohio that their state was used to get Bush re-elected.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:34 pmAmazing display of hubris. Exploitation. Partisanship.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:34 pmIt was noted on another thread here that she is the one who eked out a victory over Paul Hackett, the Iraq veteran who ran for the Ohio House. THIS is what Ohio got instead of him!!
They should be discusted.
I’m a former Marine.
Considering that this Marine she spoke of is now dead; he may have believed in what he was doing up until a point, but we’ll never know if he thinks that the price he paid was “worth it” now that he’s paid it.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:35 pmFIRE THE BITCH, BETTER YET! SEND HER ASS TO IRAQ!
November 18th, 2005 at 7:37 pmJean Schmitt won in OH due to voting irregularities, I’ll bet. Take a look at the crooked GOP political machine with their hand on the Diebold machines. Take a look at the latest report on the Bradblog. That’s why Paul Hackett isn’t in the House.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:38 pmBubp is still on active duty in the Marine Reserves and he’s not that old a guy. If Murtha’s the coward, why did Bubp have to send a woman to deliver the message, and why isn’t Bubp over in Iraq, where his experience and expertise could be doing some actual good. We know who the true cowards are.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:38 pmWhat a PATRIOTIC outfit! That’s pretty close to the American flag, so does that break any flag laws? (Kidding)
But I bet she wore that outfit specifically for her little message of Democrats being cowards.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:38 pmEveryone is talking about Draft Dodger Dick Cheney’s five draft deferments. That’s cool!
Also, please don’t forget that Congressman Jack Murtha had been a Colonel in the Marine Corps for almost a decade when Dick Cheney –a shiftless, pudgy, drunken, punk– was still getting busted for DUI:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/cheneydwi1.html
November 18th, 2005 at 7:38 pmhttp://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/cheneydwi2.html
I just LOVE these shouting matches on the house floor. It brings out passion in these congress men and women.
What an awful woman by the way.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:40 pmWhat a dumb bitch…..But expected
November 18th, 2005 at 7:45 pmLet us not forget that Jean Schmidt barely beat democratic opponent Paul Hackett who was himself an Iraqi War veteran running in an overhelmingly Republican district. She does make a good conservative, though, and I’m sure the people of Ohio are very proud of the way she applies those Ohio Republican values by shooting her mouth off in congress and getting then getting booed.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Jean looks a little thin to me. I mean, some of you would say that she is just another anorexic Repugnican bitch. Not me, of course, me being a redneck. I’m just wondering when her old man, Peter the stockbroker, last got into her pants. I mean, no wonder she is out running marathons all the time, and calling men “cowards” and such.
Peter, if you read this, you need to lay a little pipe, my man, as your old lady is one, mean, skinny-assed bitch.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:47 pm[…] Ohio should be proud. Again, they’ve elected a piece of Schmidt to office. What is with these people? How can these people assault a Congressman who’s served as cowardly with a President and Vice that hid in undisclosed locations playing with their GameBoys during Vietnam? What– was Murtha a Swift Boat panzie too? […]
November 18th, 2005 at 7:47 pmIf you were to leave it tomilitary men we would constantly be at war. It’s what they train to do. I know, I was one.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:49 pmNow the idiot Cowboy, he just wanted to deploy the military to see how it felt to wield that power.
“Can I play soldier, uncle Cheney??? Can I Can I?”
If you were to leave it to military men we would constantly be at war. It’s what they train to do. I know, I was one.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:49 pmNow the Idiot Cowboy, he just wanted to deploy the military to see how it felt to wield that power.
“Can I play soldier, uncle Cheney??? Can I Can I?”
She can go to hell with all of the other bloodthirsty politicians.
November 18th, 2005 at 7:50 pmRichard,
Your comment was so choice I reposted it here– under a quick blog piece entitled:
A PIECE OF SCHMIDT
http://www.macliberals.com/wordpress/?p=357
November 18th, 2005 at 7:54 pmWho’s working that stick stuck up her butt? and is it thorney?
November 18th, 2005 at 7:57 pmAre her kids in Iraq? Well she has a daughter and two poodles.Not much to risk there.
The only military members and veterans progs seem to appreciate are from the “cut and run” pattern (i.e. John Kerry, John Murtha, Jimmy Cardigan, George Mc Govern, etc.) Whenever I hear a Dem extolling someone’s fine military career, I have a strong suspicion they are cut from the Wesley “Kumbaya” Clark pattern Now the real warrior in THAT family looks like Gert (aka Mrs. Wesley).
November 18th, 2005 at 7:59 pmIsn’t it interesting that she didn’t mention anyone in her family serving in this war. Maybe she will join the swift voters and say that Murtha didn’t earn his two purple hearts. I guess we can count on her as one who will loose their jobs in ‘06.
November 18th, 2005 at 8:01 pm“stay the course” What if the F’n bridge is OUT ahead bitch!
November 18th, 2005 at 8:01 pmSchmidt is pathetic. She stands up there like she’s accomplishing something. She had sacrificed nothing in her life. She didn’t understand the sorrow of the family whose funeral she attended. The hero is Murtha. He accomplished something. He spoke very elequently of sacrifice and sorrow. I could see his pain. This war is a waste.
November 18th, 2005 at 8:12 pmSchmidt, I don’t want to hear about your messages. I want to hear from someone who knows war. I want to hear Murtha’s statemnent not yours.
I used to be an Ohio State fan, but after their votes put Bush in office–GO MICHIGAN! The congress has been guilty of derelection of duty under the constitution(war powers act),abrogation of responsibility(too much time on steroids,at the expense of more pressing matters facing the nation),creating social unrest(faith based initiatives, interfereing in family matters such Shiavo,Malfeasance(permitting the deficit to grow without oversight). This congress serves at the pleasure of lobbyists and benefactors and not the American people. The spending habits of this congress has aided Bush in creating more debt in his administration that in all the previous administration before him. Where is the accountability?
November 18th, 2005 at 8:14 pmTHIS MEANS WAR, I HOPE YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF THAT!
November 18th, 2005 at 8:14 pmNO MARINE TAKES ANY CRAP LIKE THAT SITTING DOWN!!!
ESPECIALLY Congressman Murtha!!!!!
What’s the matter with Ohio? Diebold voting machines!! That’s how Republicans get elected there!!
November 18th, 2005 at 8:16 pmI’m waiting for Jean Schmidt to introduce a resolution stating that unless Reps dress in red, white, & blue then you are unpatriotic. C-Span is beating anything else on TV tonight.
November 18th, 2005 at 8:20 pmMy Message to Jean Schmidt-
How dare you question the courage, patriotism and legitimacy of a decorated Marine veteran on the House floor as a means of making a cheap, disgusting political point as the whore of the Republican Right? How dare you! You and your ilk disgust true patriots like myself, an Ohio State graduate and a son of another Marine officer.
We will destroy your political career and dispose of the lies, the manipulation, the self-serving profiteering that is draining this great country of it ideals, its standing in the world and killing thousands of people, Americans and others to no good purpose.
I promise you, you will pay politically. I dare you to come to this “rock ribbed Republican” State of New Hampshire and utter such vile and disgusting comments. Or are you too terrified to face us face to face and outside the “House of Lies” that the Republican-controlled House of Representatives has become. Come on! Coward!
Hoo Rah!
November 18th, 2005 at 8:20 pmMy Message to Jean Schmidt-
SAY YOUR SORRY, SAY IT ! SAY YOUR SORRY YOU LITTLE bi**H!!!!!!!!!
November 18th, 2005 at 8:24 pm#47
Nova16,
Ohio’s votes were rigged. I have relatives there. People are upset that the vote did not go the way they thought it should. Take a look at the exit poles and then heed the fact that the CEO (now resigned) for Diebold promised Bush Ohio. Does that make sense?
November 18th, 2005 at 8:27 pmit was the CFO that resigned… CEO walden (”we’ll deliver Ohio’s electoral votes to Bush”> is filling both positions for the moment.
November 18th, 2005 at 8:29 pm[…] Watch more Shame […]
November 18th, 2005 at 8:31 pmThe Republican plan to vote on a resolution against withdrawing troops is simply a smear campaign to paint Democrats as unpatriotic wimps. They’re extremely loud about it and it usually works.
This time it has a double purpose.
The second purpose is to draw attention away from the reverse Robin Hood they’ve been playing with the budget. We really need to be talking about this extremely loudly.
November 18th, 2005 at 8:31 pmAccording to Bubp marines never cut and run. Do corporate security guards cut and run? cause that is what you are and were.
November 18th, 2005 at 8:33 pmThey are not coming home as long as there is oil to pump, bases to guard, and other countries to rip-off.
Jean Schmidt better watch out for twisters. A house might fall on her
November 18th, 2005 at 8:38 pmHey, somebody stick something in the bitches mouth!
November 18th, 2005 at 8:39 pmAfter watching CSPAN tonight it would seem that many of the Republican Reps. are not much more intelligent than the trolls that frequent this site. Scarey.
November 18th, 2005 at 8:41 pmHopefully, this furor will FINALLY wake everyone up in the country up to what many of us knew before we even went into Iraq. Just remember, you can wrap a pig up in an American flag and call it patriotic; some idiots will even salute it. But at the end of the day, it’s still….just….a pig. Just substitute “Iraq war” for pig and there you have it.
November 18th, 2005 at 8:49 pm[…] >> VIDEO: Schmidt’s Shame >> MORE: After watching the operations of the GOP in the House of Rep., there’s no way Malkin could call our side unhinged by any stretch of the mind. Oh, that would require a mind. Right. […]
November 18th, 2005 at 8:51 pmWhat Murtha did was dastardly!
USMC (Retired)
November 18th, 2005 at 8:53 pmMighty aphordite #43, its me, Joe. Girl, I like the way you come in and call the exmilitary people here cut from the same cloth as Kerry, Clark, etc. Personally, I am a vet and I like old Wes Clark. You got to admit, all those you slammed sure have better military records and an understanding of war than those chickenhawk draftdodgers like Cheney, Wolfowitz, Ashcroft, and Dennis Hastert. You did know that all of them, including warhawks O’Reilly, Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove and many others dodged the draft during the Vietnam War, didn’t you? And forget about Jean Schmidt, she’s too busy running marathons to serve her country.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought you said you served 12 years in the military? I mean, that being said, how could you ever, EVER side with that skinny-assed disgraceful bitch who called a war hero like Murtha a coward? Especially when Murtha has been a hawk and ardent supporter of the Bushwars. The libs here would say that “cutting and running” is as phony as “staying the course” because Rummy and Cheney don’t have clue on what hell they are doing.
Hey, aphrodite, do you agree with me that if Peter Schmidt was to poke his old lady now and then, Jean wouldn’t be such a hateful, brooding bitch, don’t you? I mean, really, isn’t she a bitter little twit, or what?
November 18th, 2005 at 8:58 pmWhat Jean Schmidt did was dastardly!
November 18th, 2005 at 8:59 pmUSMC(Ret.)
Wow, the entire state of Ohio must be embarrassed.
Just like Bush phoning in his personal war, Bubp had to call in his comments and have someone else do his heavy lifting for him. Even his taste in messengers is bad.
And, riddle me this … how does she know what that fallen Marine thought before he died? Does she speak to the dead? I mean, God talks to Bush and all … maybe House Reps can speak to the dead. Sheez.
November 18th, 2005 at 8:59 pm#54
Thanks for the clarification. Unlike republicans, I do like to have my facts straight.
November 18th, 2005 at 8:59 pmThe RW Republicans have their VietNam underway again. The boogey men back then were communists. Today its Muslims. It took 15 years to extricate ourselves from the SE quagmire. Today, we are a little smarter and more wary of the MIC and the corporate war profiteers. There is no compelling reason to shed blood in Iraq, just as there was no reason in VietNam. All the Republicans can do is question our patriotism because they have no compelling case to continue this immoral and unjustifiable war.
November 18th, 2005 at 8:59 pmWhen I first saw that image I thought they we bringing the Shiavo debate up again.
November 18th, 2005 at 9:01 pm#63. Henriet Cousin? Retired? when?
November 18th, 2005 at 9:02 pmHow long? from what yr to what yr?
MOS?
Duty Assignments?????
PROVE IT FIRST!BEFORE MAKING DEROGATORY STATEMENTS!
Gotta say, that there dog fight on the floor was pretty inspiring. Howard Fineman commented, on Olbermann’s Countdown tonight (Fri) that what actually happened when Ms Lovely Scmidt barfed out the coward statement, was that about a gazillion Dems ROSE from their seats and began to rumble. Sort of Capraesque, dont you think? I’m lovin it…..
November 18th, 2005 at 9:13 pmIs Congressman Jack Murtha Marine Corps in YOUR TOTAL OPINION TRULY A COWARD???
November 18th, 2005 at 9:15 pmOR JUST A THOUGHTFULL PERSON?
I KNOW MY ANSWER, IS A THOUGHTFULL PERSON!
GET OFF THE HOUSE FLOOR AND INTO THE THE SAND DITCHES OF IRAQ IF YOU THINK THIS CRIME IS THE “RIGHT THING”!
“I like guys who got five deferments and (have) never been there and send people to war, and then don’t like to hear suggestions about what needs to be done,’ Murtha said.” ~ The Honorable John Murtha
November 18th, 2005 at 9:18 pmWhat Schmidt did was wrong, I think she should have been made to opologize rather than just having to retract her statement and Lie that it was not meant as toward Jack Murtha. She should be censored.
Congressman Murtha showed real courage in his timein the marines and showed it when hemade his stand calling for withdrawal, knowing that he would be attacked by the republican spin machine. That’s real courage
November 18th, 2005 at 9:19 pmWhile I find Schmidt’s comments reprehensible, the comments on here attacking her because she’s a woman are just as disturbing, especially from “enlightened” liberals.
November 18th, 2005 at 9:20 pm#71
I believe #63 was sarcasm. Check it out. Murtha is dastardly for retring from the Marines. That is a joke. He served for 30 some odd years and was a Colonel. Nothing dastardly about that. He is a true American hero that deserves that respect. That is why it is a joke. People…….oh nevermind.
November 18th, 2005 at 9:23 pmOH! NOW ITS BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN??
November 18th, 2005 at 9:23 pmHOW RETARDED ARE YOU?
#77. HAHAHA.(Not Funny).
November 18th, 2005 at 9:26 pmI,m Sorry, I do not get the Humour.
#78
The Caps Lock key is 3/16 of an inch from your pinky finger, which should be resting on the “A”. Stretch that little puppy over there and press that sucker once. You might find more people respond to you that way.
Did you know all caps is considered yelling? So, going by your posts, you are a raving madman.
Come back to us.
November 18th, 2005 at 9:28 pmWill someone please put a burka on that screeching shrew of a women! My eyes!!!
Actually, lets see more of her. I think she is an excellent spokeswoman for the republican party. I think that so many moderates see the right-wing as just a bunch of harmless churchladies and good old boys and give them a pass. It is time moderates wake up and realize - these people are dangerous.
This screwball harpy is out to change America, and trust me - most of the people posting on this site will not be welcomed in her America.
November 18th, 2005 at 9:33 pmCrazy Bee-otch!
November 18th, 2005 at 9:39 pm[…] This particular clip of Representative Jean Schmidt (R-OH) insulting Democratic representative John Murtha on the floor of the house is incredible. The republicans are truly in panic mode and it shows. For those not in the know, Rep. Murtha just called for an immediate troop pullout from Iraq. Watching this I am reminded of the clips I have seen from Question Period in the House of Commons here in Canada. Filed under: End of Nomaddom by Todd Tyrtle | […]
November 18th, 2005 at 9:39 pmyea well, after serving 21 + yrs, i tend to get raving mad, Spudge, Did you know one of my four daughters spent an entire year in n. Iraq? Shes home now, but, the point is, I AM RAVING MAD
November 18th, 2005 at 9:47 pmWell yea, after serving 21 + yrs, i tend to get raving mad, Spudge, Did you know one of my four daughters spent an entire year in n. Iraq? Shes home now, but, the point is, I AM RAVING MAD
November 18th, 2005 at 9:48 pmSpudge, I wrote this under the msg above, for some reason it did not appear:
November 18th, 2005 at 9:50 pmSorry spudge, i will try to calm down now.
I recently tried phoning the congresswoman from Ohio at her office (202-225-3164) to express my outrage but her voice mail was full. Go figure.
November 18th, 2005 at 9:51 pmMarines never cut and run.
That is the truth.
And Mr. Murtha will never cut and run.
He will stay the course with WE THE PEOPLE
and stand up for what is right no matter how
many CHICKENHAWKS call him names.
Thank you Mr. Murtha!!!!!!!!!!!
(That woman is a real freak!)
November 18th, 2005 at 9:54 pmAlso, love how she assumes the Marine who died supported the war. Maybe he thought it was a debacle.
To be clear, I don’t know what he thought. Unlike Republicans like Schmidt, Coulter, and Malkin, I can’t read the mind of soldiers from beyond the grave.
November 18th, 2005 at 10:00 pm“…I promise you, you will pay politically. I dare you to come to this “rock ribbed Republican†State of New Hampshire and utter such vile and disgusting comments. Or are you too terrified to face us face to face and outside the “House of Lies†that the Republican-controlled House of Representatives has become. Come on! Coward!
Hoo Rah!…
Take my word for it, she comes to New York and we’ll beat the shit out of the ugly bitch.
November 18th, 2005 at 10:04 pmHey Warbloggers, I hope you are safe. Please, watch your back as you fight the insurgency. We want you back alive so your wives and children can be proud of you.
Of fer gods sake, I can’t keep it up, you cheetoh slugging douchebags are cowards. Admit it. If you do, you will receive much respect.
November 18th, 2005 at 10:06 pm# 59 tomz. I agree but think she is sending a message to GW and Cheney of her qualifications. Thing is, it won’t work with this bunch, wrong party and every one knows drunks and druggies don’t play.Can’t. LOL. Bush could be impressed enough to give her a nod for a good job doing something else though. A recruiter in Iowa maybe.
November 18th, 2005 at 10:07 pmI have had it with these chickenhawks. I was outraged at watching the Republican Convention and seeing all those ignorant, disrepectful, morons waving their fingers with a purple bandaid to humiliate Kerry’s “earned” ribbons and war experience. Maybe we should put a YELLOW bandaid on our middle finger and salute that chickenhawk who pretends to commander in chief.
Now we have to put up with that war hero Schmidt telling us vets what we feel? She must have one hell of an honorable military record.
November 18th, 2005 at 10:08 pmMy letter to Schmidt. None of
her phone recorders would accept messages, must be they are all full.
Jean Schmidt
Occupier of the Congressional Seat of Ohio 2nd District
2423 Rayburn House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
I refuse to address you as a Member of Congress, nor will I respect your position with the title of Honorable. You abrogated any respect I would have had for you when you uttered your remarks of November 18th, in which you challenged the courage of decorated Vietnam War veteran, Congressman John Murtha of Pennsylvania, saying “cowards cut and run.”
Congressman Murtha has expressed the feeling of a great number of people in this country with their dissatisfaction with the illegal Iraq war, and he did not call for an immediate withdrawal of troops, as you tried to portray. He did say “as soon as is practicableâ€. Congressman Murtha’s experience in war gives him an insight you will never have.
I understand you later were told to make an apology for your heinous remarks. I do not accept that apology. I am a Vietnam combat war veteran, and I found your remarks to be despicable.
Because I am an honorable man, and have great respect for women, I cannot express to you how I really feel about you, except to say, you Madam, you are an ass.
November 18th, 2005 at 10:12 pmThe Republicans of this nation are a danger to themselves and others.
They are not rational.
They are not sane, nor effective.
They are either liars or delusional.
Neither this nation nor the world can take anymore of them.
This Independent says bring them all down!
Read the Declaration of Independence!
It is time to act on our nation’s founding principles!
November 18th, 2005 at 10:18 pmI Agree Nam-Vet, I am sorry Plastic americans are spitting in your face.
November 18th, 2005 at 10:20 pmI know how you feel.
They Suck. in ref to #92,76, and all chickenhawks, GO TO HELL! do not collect $200.00, do not pass go, GO DIRECTLY TO HELL.
NEVER EVER SPIT IN A VETS FACE FOR STANDING UP TO WHAT IS RIGHT AND WHAT WENT WRONG!
THIS TIME
BEEEEEEEEEEYUTCH!
November 18th, 2005 at 10:24 pmGRAB THE FRIGGIN’ PITCHFORKS AND SHOW UP AT SMITTY’S
SH*T HOUSE DOOR AND TAKE AWAY HER TOILET PAPER -
PITCHFORKS BABY - GET THE PITCHFORKS
November 18th, 2005 at 10:26 pmQUOTE: “Mr. Speaker, my remarks were not directed to any member of the House and I did not intend to suggest they applied to any member, most especially the distinguished gentleman from Pennsylvania.”
Oh, but Jean, they WERE, they were…
QUOTE: “He also asked me to send Congressman Murtha a message…”
Of course, when she said the message was for Murtha, she never meant the remark that immediately followed was intended for Murhta. Or so she wants us to believe.
The GOP: they can’t even apologize without lying.
November 18th, 2005 at 10:41 pmShe is not a woman, She is a WITCH!
November 18th, 2005 at 10:46 pmOkay: this is Ohio State Legislature Representative (R-88th District) Danny R. Bubp. He is 51, this is his first term. His prior civic and political accomplishment is to have been elected as a county court judge.
He can be reached at:
district88@ohr.state.oh.us
(614) 644-6034
Representative Bubp, according to his official Ohio Legislature web page, was awarded the Joint Service Commendation Medal, Navy and Marine Corps Commendation Medal, and the Army Commendation Medal during his military service. His rank and branch are not given.
Alert readers with a service background will draw certain conclusions from which decorations Bubp was awarded.
I would urge any reader with the desire to do so to email or call Representative Bubp and ask why, if he is a Marine, he would call another Marine a coward who holds combat decorations and a Purple Heart.
November 18th, 2005 at 10:58 pmFirst Sue Burmeister, Now this Woman. What is up with (some of)you women ?
November 18th, 2005 at 11:03 pmJeanne Schmidt (CH-OH) Another chicken hawk in full flight….
November 18th, 2005 at 11:14 pmre #103:
First Sue Burmeister, Now this Woman. What is up with (some of)you women ?
Don’t even try playing that, buddy. This has nothing to do with them being women, and everything to do with them being good Republicans. Keep the focus where it belongs, thanks.
November 18th, 2005 at 11:26 pmGood Republicans?
November 18th, 2005 at 11:29 pmwhich side of the fence did you fall on?
From the independent:
“The Army Field Manual, which states: “The use of weapons which employ fire … is not violative of international law. They should not, however, be employed in such a way as to cause unnecessary suffering to individuals.”
The 1980 UN Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons prohibits use of incendiaries against civilians and demands that forces using them against military targets take all available steps to avoid civilian casualties.”
Looks like White Phosphorous is not only a breach of the army field manual, but is banned by the UN as a Non-Conventional weapon.
November 18th, 2005 at 11:30 pmWondered what happened to the stolen Munch painting “The Scream.” Seems to have surfaced in the U.S. House of Representatives. Obviously, there’s no longer a dress code in effect.
November 18th, 2005 at 11:30 pmI am proud to say that I went to Rep. Murtha’s official website and because I’m from the 12th district in the state of PA, where I’m from, I was more than proud to leave him my message of support and to continue to do the right thing and never let the chickenhawks get to him.
Thank God Murtha’s my Representative.
November 18th, 2005 at 11:31 pmI blame Women, It is afterall , What they wanted!
GENESIS CHAPTER 3
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November 18th, 2005 at 11:33 pm1 ¶ Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
6 ¶ And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes,
I was watching the debate till the bitter end and it occurred to me that the only speaker who really cares about the troops is Mr. Murtha.
November 18th, 2005 at 11:39 pmBill, You,re Right.
November 18th, 2005 at 11:43 pmAnd, Only one woman. Cindy Sheeham.
Ladies, Ladies, I,m only joking. There are ALOT of americans that want the war to End Immediately. But, are not sure, or know how to end it.
November 18th, 2005 at 11:47 pmonly those in power can really end it.
or maybe God can end it.
God Bless Rep. Burtha!
November 18th, 2005 at 11:56 pmThank you for your continuing service to this country.
re. #114. - yeah, i meant Murtha!
November 18th, 2005 at 11:58 pmmy humble apologies.
What A Piece of Schmidt
I also hope this haunts Mike DeWine and every other Ohio Repugnantcan with the stain they all deserve — corrupt, a-moral, despicable criminal hacks that they are.
November 19th, 2005 at 12:11 amWhat else would you expect from bullschmidt. She represents a ya-hoo county in Ohio that has a weekly raids on meth labs and is full of sexual predators. She tried the same inuendos against Hackett and he called her down on every one of her bullschmidt comments. She’s a neocon wannabe with a big mouth and somebody ought to sue the hell out of her.
And yes, there are still lingering questions on the last election in which she ran. The whole damned state is corrupt, from the Gov., the legislature, to Bullschmidt.
November 19th, 2005 at 12:11 amMighty Aphrodite,
You sound just like the Republican talking points. Do you ever have an original thought?
Redleg,
November 19th, 2005 at 12:12 amformer CPT, FA, US Army
BRAVO REDLEG, Welcome.
November 19th, 2005 at 12:22 amwe,ve been waiting on you guys.
Please help explain why our freedom bubbles are about to burst.
tyia
I find it interesting that a LEFTIST blog is mentioning and actually quoting these words. These comments that Schmidt so inelequently shared with the nation originated with a soldier.
How does it feel to know that many soldiers feel this way about the “cut & run caucus” aka DEMOCRATS?
November 19th, 2005 at 1:04 am[…] The desperation of Republicans in the Congress are best left without comment by me right now. I’ll let a Republican member of the House do that here. […]
November 19th, 2005 at 1:25 amThis pathetic excuse for a Congresswoman is a disgrace to this country. I fear that the time may soon be upon us when we will be forced to take back this nation ourselves. The patriots that founded this country stood up to British bullets and lies, will we be up to the task if it falls to us? When will we send one million, two million souls to Washington and blockade the White House and the Senate and FORCE them to impeach these traitors, to give us our country back?
November 19th, 2005 at 1:32 amAnd we all thought Kathrine Harris was the ugliest women in Congress…as we say here in Georgia, ‘If my dog had a face like that, I’d shave it’s ass and teach it to walk backwards!’
November 19th, 2005 at 1:32 amWhere did she get the idea that “…the rest of AMERICA and the WORLD…want us to see this through!” She needs to do a REALITY CHECK, or get her information from somewhere other than White House talking points and/or rightwing talk radio…THE REST OF HUMANITY WANTS TO SEE AN END TO THIS ILLEGAL WAR, INCLUDING THE USE OF WMD’S ON CIVILIAN POPULATIONS AS WELL!!
And where was her fellow rep., the Colonel? And why would a real marine send a despicable message like that to another fellow marine…and through a woman who plays dress-up to look like a patriot (yet knows nothing about REAL war!), no less…typical Repugnant-can behavior. They love to wrap themselves in the flag and America, yet cut and run when needed to do the actual fighting for the rights and freedoms they claim for themselves.
November 19th, 2005 at 1:42 amThink of the most shrill voices for war, those advocated who never spent a second in uniform, never
November 19th, 2005 at 1:45 ambled on the field of battle, never held onto someone dying. This traitorous whore should be publicly flogged. Or, better yet, send her to Baghdad immediately, she can drive a Humvee and get shot at and THEN she can question John Murtha and not a second sooner.
That “message” from Schmidt was absolutely unacceptable. She did not even offer an appology. What was she thinking? Nevertheless like #76, I’m really disappointed by many of the comments on this blog calling her names.
November 19th, 2005 at 2:24 amShe was full of Schmidt once. She is full of Schmidt now.
November 19th, 2005 at 2:35 am[…] Representative Jean Schmidt, (R-OH), the most junior member of the House of Representatives, gave a speech today. She had this to say in response to Representative John Murtha (D-PA) speech yesterday (via Think Progress): A few minutes ago I received a call from Colonel Danny Bubp, Ohio Representative from the 88th district in the House of Representatives. He asked me to send Congress a message: Stay the course. He also asked me to send Congressman Murtha a message, that cowards cut and run, Marines never do. Danny and the rest of America and the world want the assurance from this body – that we will see this through. […]
November 19th, 2005 at 2:38 am[…] Apparently, I missed the worst of this little political opera. Earlier, Ohio Republican Jean Schmidt came onto the House floor and read a letter supposedly from an American soldier, directly suggesting that Marine veteran Jack Murtha was a coward. If you can stomach it, here’s the video of this poor excuse for a U.S. Congresswoman delivering her disgusting libel. […]
November 19th, 2005 at 2:45 amEva Braun (aka Schmidt) needs to have her mouth washed out with soap for daring to call Murtha a coward. She also is an OBVIOUS liar for saying she didn’t call Murtha a coward WHEN SHE DID!
November 19th, 2005 at 2:58 am….#120… SoCalPundit 1:04 am ..
How does it feel to be a coward, chickenhawk?
November 19th, 2005 at 3:00 amJudging by that photo, she needs her mouth washed out with a phallus…
November 19th, 2005 at 3:08 amthis punk ass sub human posing as a human female bad mouthing a true vetran. this kind of talk makes me want to go conan the barbarian upon the cult of the repukeslimes. not one of these republican cowards went into combat. wheres is the justice, wheres the outrage this will not stand KILL THE WITCHY BITCH not really but that how i feel
yo cia i will not kill her you know your read my dossier.
November 19th, 2005 at 3:14 amSend more troops to Iraq and keep them there forever.
The troops vote for people like Schmidt and
Bush… 92% of military voted Republican. I say
do what the President wants! Keep them there til there’s peace (i.e., forever)! As far as I’m concerned, I’m all for more more more troops being
sent to Iraq. Give the troops what they want! They WANT this war. They want to be in Iraq. They LOVE the death and destruction. It makes them feel alive (how ironic)! Let ‘em thin the ranks of Republican voters
by sending ALL our troops to Iraq and Chechnya!
That’s what I’m voting for!
Mike L.
November 19th, 2005 at 3:20 am“Cut and run” is so 2004… They actually think there’s still a war to fight! Hopefully this distasteful stunt will backfire; the end is nigh for the GOP. How much more of this can the American people take?
November 19th, 2005 at 3:50 amNothing new for the Rethuglicans - shoot the messenger.
The Iraq war is already lost and the US can either pull out now with some degree of dignity, or be routed at a later date in an ignominious defeat, just like Vietnam.
November 19th, 2005 at 3:55 amI will send her Democratic opponent next year a contribution. Don’t believe I’ll be the only one from out of state to do so.
November 19th, 2005 at 4:35 amThis lady looks like a long time meth user and street walker.
November 19th, 2005 at 4:46 am“Congress in strong, bipartisan fashion rejected the call to cut and run,†press secretary Scott McClellan, traveling with Bush in Asia, said in a statement.
Wow, what a suprise,never would have expected this response from the most pathetic political lacky representing the most reprehensible administration in my lifetime. It just goes to show: if you contrive it, they will vote for it. Congresswoman Schmidt? My guess is that McClellan refers to her as “Aunt Jean.”
November 19th, 2005 at 5:14 amYou know, I think that this woman is utter trash, but I find it quite disturbing that, instead of focusing in on her reprehensible comments, people are instead using the fact she is female to condemn her. It’s sad to see what seems to be a very liberal group disgracing itself by spouting sexist remarks. That’s Republican talk!
November 19th, 2005 at 5:16 amInterestingly, it’s a woman fromm the far right, the men have no balls!
November 19th, 2005 at 5:37 ammakes me proud to be an ohioan. honestly, what did we do to deserve this kind of representation?
November 19th, 2005 at 5:41 am#141… I agree.
And this is standard republican distraction. Keep sending different people in to carry the propaganda, make the statements loud to stir it up, grab the headlines and distract from the truth. And don’t always use the same people so that it becomes a collective voice with no one person is easily targeted. This time they sent a woman, next time it’ll be some other skag repub. But these people need to be targeted, as now the republican scum want to target Murtha’s brother with an ethics probe.
Besides, she’s not a woman, she’s a christian-right hag from Cincinnati who promotes the killing of doctors. Christo-fascists deserve no mercy.
November 19th, 2005 at 5:50 am#141… I agree.
But this is just republican nationalistic distraction straight from 1930’s Germany. Keep sending different people in with the propaganda, make the statements loud to stir it up, grab the headlines and let it distract from the truth. And don’t always use the same people so that it’ll resemble a collective voice with no one person being easily targeted. This time they sent a woman, next time it’ll be some other skag repub. But these people do need to be targeted, as now the republican scum target Murtha’s brother with an ethics probe in standard Repub bully-boy fashion.
Besides, she’s not a woman, she’s a christian-right hag from Cincinnati who promotes the killing of doctors. Christo-fascists deserve no mercy and bullies are cowards.
November 19th, 2005 at 5:59 amTell me something… do you suppose there are troops over there who are not thrilled to be participating in the “lottery�??
Do you suppose they are entitled to representation??? Do you think they could use a little support, someone to speak for them??? Someone to stand up and say, “democracy is best when initiated by those who want it�??
Not all participants in Iraq are professional soldiers, many are National Guardsman and Reservists… Why should they see their lives lost, limbs taken away, businesses flounder, marriages ruined… so an Iraqi can vote????
Cut and run???? How is that possible when the mission has been accomplished????
November 19th, 2005 at 7:25 amShe does ot speak for me when she says the rest of America.
November 19th, 2005 at 7:53 amI want them home before any body else dies!
There’s a lot of talk by the Republicans about a “cut and run” policy in Iraq, but it seems to me that no one can “cut and run” quite like the neocons that wanted this invasion/occupation. Collectively, President Bush, Cheney, Rice, Wolfowitz, Chalabi, et al. might have spent an average of less than a week in Iraq. Swooping down with evasive efficiency to avoid drawing enemy fire. Wearing bulletproof vests. Swooping into a heavily fortified camp to “inspire” the troops with the usual “stay the course” dogma. And then ‘POOF,’they’re gone. Back to their safe enclosure that has become the White House which is no longer the People’s House. The rank hypocrisy is shattering.
November 19th, 2005 at 8:01 amWhat’s wrong with the Dems? Why did they even vote on the sham resolution? Why didn’t Pelosi have the brains and the guts to stage a walkout? It would have been a triumph.
Instead, she and the Dems offer the tepid “American can do better.”
November 19th, 2005 at 8:07 amThat’s my congresswoman, loved every minute of it.
November 19th, 2005 at 8:11 amA real vagina gets her monologue.
November 19th, 2005 at 8:12 amWhat if Congress had opposed Vietnam sooner?
Hawkish decorated veteran House Democrat calls for withdrawal from Iraq. Uproar, hijinks right-wing silliness ensure.
November 19th, 2005 at 8:12 amwhy is schmidt’s military age daughter joining the fight in iraq if the congresswoman thinks the cause is worth the life of another american son or daughter? typical wingnut call for action–stay the course, don’t cut and run, but send others to fight and die.
November 19th, 2005 at 8:29 amin last post I meant why isn’t her daughter not joining the fight–sorry
November 19th, 2005 at 8:30 amPosturing and writhing by a party is a state of complete panic! They understand but only intuitively what’s happen to both Bush and the party that “brung” him. They’ve been reframed. The topic is no longer “whether” but “when” we pull out of Iraq. Military forces are designed to win military engagements; the only victory to be had in Iraq is a political one and we lost that battle from the date of our invasion. And we continue to lose it each additional day we stay. Out of Iraq now…before it bankrupts the U.S.
November 19th, 2005 at 8:38 amNoodling around in the web trying to figure out who the mysterious “Col Bubp” referenced by Rep. Schmidt in her scummy attack on a certified war hero, Rep Jack Murtha I found that Col Bubp is, or perhaps was, indeed a Marine Col, who is a representative for the 88th District of the Ohio House of Representatives (y’all know DIEBOLD OHIO). If he did pass on to her the unwarranted cut at Rep Murtha, it’s a point of interest that he has no Combat “Props” and his only awards are three give-away Commendation medals from agencies and activities he served with during whatever Active Duty time he served, piss poor harvest for a career as a Col. To reference this man as an authority on Heroism is ludicrous at best, and is a statement about Repug lies, manipulations of the truth, etc. Furthermore, it seems that Col Bubp used his military service and rank as a “prop” card in his run for his own seat, in violation of what I understand to be Military regulations against “politicking in uniform”:
http://www.geocities.com/danin04/
and if youLook and this little blurb from a Repugnican site on our Deer Jean and her shenanigans :
“Jean Schmidt–former Rep to Ohio’s General Assembly. Heavy hitter in Clermont County Politics. Known as Mean Jean for her past vicious attacks against opponents and her singleminded, almost dogmatic devotion to her own vision. Claims to be for lowering taxes and being pro-development, but caved and voted for the increased state taxes in Ohio that have driven businesses and population away. Claims to be for conservative honest values, but ran a very questionable campaign against Tom Niehaus in the primary for State Senator. Used alliance with former Speaker Householder to get extra campaign funds (Householder told those special interests who supported him that if they gave to Niehaus, they would lose access; they had to give to Schmidt), which is highly questionable. Uses deceptive campaign material which portrays her as having the endorsement of Rob Portman. Also used a conversation with State Rep. Danny Bubp as a claim she had his endorsement when he issued no such endorsement. Later bragged to party officials how she pulled one over on people for making it look like Bubp endorsed her. Now seeks to run so she can challenge Pelosi, Clinton, Boxer, and the other women of Washington. Blindly ambitious, and will do anything to win. Is known for attempting last minute charges which cannot be substantiated by the election. Sounded like AlGore when she lost to Niehaus after mandatory recount. Many disillusioned by her tactics, despite her attempts to soften image.”
verify at:
http://marksremarks.blogspot.com/ 2005_06_01_marksremarks_archive.html
Neat eh? The slime that used to be the Republican Party has fouled this nation and needs to be removed.
“Patriotism means being loyal to your country all the time and to its government when it deserves it.” Mark Twain
November 19th, 2005 at 8:50 amI just want the rest of the nation to know, not all Ohioans are so repugnant as this piece of human waste(Schmidt)…. The informed electorate of Ohio is tired of Repugs shaming us to the rest of the nation…I urge all people in Schmidt’s district to DEFEAT her in 2006 and rid the nation and our state of such disgusting displays in the future.
November 19th, 2005 at 9:06 amMark - thanks for the link to Danny Bubp’s website. Just sent him an email. We should all send that coward an email. Looks like the Democrats will have their work cut out for them in Ohio next year. Here’s hoping we have Democrat Iraq veterans to run against these Yellow Elephants.
November 19th, 2005 at 9:08 am#135. I agree with your comments. Having three brothers in WWII and serving in the US Army myself, I support sending more troops to Iraq as long as they are fresh young republicans from Ohio. Let this phony war run its course. Maybe in ten years we can all take a cruise to Iraq sponored by Halliburton. The “Fog of War” so entrenched in the Viet Nam era influenced by the policies of Sec of Defense McNamara is in full notice and a part of the American psyche today. Staying the course and honoring the dead who have died in action by killing more young Americans is akin to riding a dead horse. A majority of Americans have sorrowfully come to the conclusion that they have been duped into war and want those responsible to be held accountable. Those who advocate strong support for this war are in a “Cloud of Confusion”. This current congress has wrought more social,political and economic turmoil upon the American people than any previous government in our history! GO MICHIGAN!
November 19th, 2005 at 9:17 amShe certainly doesn’t seem cowardly in the fellatio department. I mean, look at that mouth — swallow a horse if she had to.
November 19th, 2005 at 9:19 amThese people in southern Ohio would vote for Benito Mussolini if his name had an (R) for republican after it on the voting ballot. They are pure red meat repubs voting for people like Schmidt. Politics over country.
November 19th, 2005 at 9:25 amOne Harvey Pekar is worth 1000 Jean Schmidts.
Wake up, Ohio!
November 19th, 2005 at 9:29 amI wish the clip was longer. The Washington Post mentioned her Repub collegues gathering ariound her, and her sitting down looking dazed. That’s what I want to see — the dazed looked of confusion and comeuppance.
November 19th, 2005 at 9:44 amI support this war and am conservative on many things, but–her remarks are disgusting. Reprehensible. Wrong. Period.
November 19th, 2005 at 9:47 am#95
Good letter! My hats off to you.
November 19th, 2005 at 9:48 am403 to 3. Wow. Is that all the anti-war Left could muster? THREE whole votes? How many man-hours of dishonest attack-dog politics is that per vote? How many hours of wasted time in the blogosphere? How many wasted words of MSM nonsense? How many wasted dollars of political contributions to spineless Democrats who can’t even stand in support of a guy they all say is a “brave American?”
If Jack Murtha is so brave, and if his cut-and-run proposal is such a great idea, congressional Dems should have been falling all over themselves to vote for this resolution. After all, it perfectly expressed the Democratic plan for Iraq. As it turned out, though, Danny Bubp was right. What a bunch of cowards and hypocrites!
November 19th, 2005 at 9:52 am“Mr. Speaker, my remarks were not directed to any member of the House and I did not intend to suggest they applied to any member, most especially the distinguished gentleman from Pennsylvania.”
Anyone who actually saw Rep. Schmidt deliver her original remarks knows that they were not directed at any individual House member. They were directed - and rightly so - at every member of the Democratic Cut-and-Run Caucus!
You go girl!
November 19th, 2005 at 9:55 amAdd Murtha to the long list of veterans that have been called cowards by the GOP. Ths party that likes to say they “support the troops” has called JFK, John Kerry, Max Cleland, Jimmy Carter and George Mcgovern all coward and traitors. This display is sickening.
November 19th, 2005 at 10:01 am#143
November 19th, 2005 at 10:03 amOhioans will need to take back their State government. You will need to change the voting machines. One way to take back you State is to have big “write-in” campaigns. You can’t write-in on a Diebold machine. This can be done. It takes a lot of ground troops to work the polls to get the votes.
Just watched the news conference on CSPAN. It was the Republican response to Rep Murtha. I love the “stay the course” Republicans.
But the constant comparisons to the Great Struggles of the Past, especially World War II just ring hollow. Do these people actually read history books, or did they learn about the war from watching “Combat” when they were kids?
The war was a struggle against advanced industrial miltary powers. It actually was a struggle for civilization itself. If the so-called “Global War on Terror” (or whatever they’re calling it now) is in the same league as that war, are they then prepared to make the same sacrifices to win it?
It’s a struggle for civilization, as Schmidt says in her comments…
Right?
OK Then…
-Are the Republicans ready to mobilize the entire country?
-Conscript every able-bodied person of military age?
-Increase taxes to World War II levels to support a war economy?
-Begin rationing of essential materials such as gasoline, rubber, nylon, steel, semiconductors, etc.?
…Well..??
…oh, I didn’t think so…
… because people might get pissed off then… and their little charade would end.
So good luck with the whole “stay the course (non-)plan”. I hope they vote down the Dems withdrawl bill… so then the responsibility for whatever happens next can be theirs completely.
November 19th, 2005 at 10:04 am“Three Democrats, Jose Serrano of New York, Robert Wexler of Florida and Cynthia McKinney of Georgia, voted for withdrawal. Six voted present: Reps. Jim McDermott of Washington; Jerrold Nadler, Maurice Hinchey and Major Owens of New York; Michael Capuano of Massachusetts and William Lacy Clay of Missouri.” (H/T: MSNBC)
Oh yeah, those six Dems who voted “present” sure showed the rest of us how to take a principled stand on the war. They are worse than cowards; they’re pathetic.
PS: How many Dems does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
Answer: No one knows. Dems prefer darkness and lies to the light of truth!
November 19th, 2005 at 10:05 am“Ohioans will need to take back their State government.”
You haven’t been paying attention. They just did - by defeating four “reform” proposals by out-of-state meddlers like you!
November 19th, 2005 at 10:07 amBlue State Red #168: as a rightwinger, I thought your take was nicely said.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the lefties here would like you to say it again, only this time try saying through you mouth.
Dipshit.
November 19th, 2005 at 10:15 amBlue State Red
The prposal that came up for vote in the House was written by the Republicans and it was not the proposal written by Murtha. Of course, it was voted down. Get your facts straight before mouthing off nonsense.
You can’t “cut and run” after the “mission accomplished”. Bush publicaly stated that “mission accomplished”. If that is true, then we should have left Iraq a long time ago. If it is not true, then Bush LIED to the American people.
Blue State Red - How may wars did you fight in? How many solders died in your arms? How many bullets did you have to dodge? Did you risk your life to save others? Or are you just another selfish, self centered Republican?
November 19th, 2005 at 10:18 amA brief history of some of Jack Murhta’s recent war policy positions:
October 2002: Murtha voted for the Iraq war resolution - you know, the one that authorized President Bush to use all means necessary to remove SAddam Hussein because that has been US policy since 1998.
May 2004: A year after Saddam’s defeat, and five months after his capture, Murtha calls for MORE troops to be deployed to Iraq.
October 2004: Murtha was one of only two House members to vote for Charlie Rangel’s bill to reinstate the draft, despite the fact that Rangel himself voted againts his own bill.
November 2005: Not to be outdone by Rep. Rangel, Murtha voted against a resolution expressing his own “cut-and-run” proposal.
Murtha and Rangel are two peas in a pod: both decorated war veterans, both deserving of respect for their military service, and both cranky old guys with some really bad ideas. It’s sad to see that time has passed them by.
November 19th, 2005 at 10:21 am#173
What makes you think that I’m not from Ohio? And if I’m not from Ohio, then I have no influence on what is placed on the Ohio ballets. I think you need to stop taking those “stupid pills” with your breakfast. Your moronic thinking i