On June 28, 2005, President Bush explained why we can’t set a timetable for withdrawal. According to Bush, it would send the wrong message to Iraqis:
Some contend that we should set a deadline for withdrawing U.S. forces. Let me explain why that would be a serious mistake. Setting an artificial timetable would send the wrong message to the Iraqis, who need to know that America will not leave before the job is done.
Now, in an unusual show of unity, the Iraqis sent a message to President Bush:
Leaders of Iraq’s sharply divided Shiites, Kurds and Sunnis called Monday for a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S.-led forces in the country and said Iraq’s opposition had a “legitimate right” of resistance.
Looks like President Bush needs a new excuse. Much more on this story at AmericaBlog.
UPDATE: From the Washington Post, 5/15/04:
Secretary of State Colin Powell emphatically said yesterday that if the incoming Iraqi interim government ordered the departure of foreign troops after June 30, they would pack up without protest, but emphasized he doubted such a request would be made.
… “If the provisional government asks us to leave, we will leave,” Bremer said, referring to an Iraqi administration due to take power June 30. “I don’t think that will happen, but obviously we don’t stay in countries where we’re not welcome.”
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November 22nd, 2005 at 10:18 amNot sure i said that.
November 22nd, 2005 at 10:19 amJust Dont see it.
Bushco sees Iraq as a Military stepping stone.
What was that Bush Quote, sumthin like;
"If we take out Saddam it will Solve Everything"
(whatever that means --Aj)
Heres an Article thats gonna Kick what Little Credit, Bushco, has left into the fire.
22 November 2005
EXCLUSIVE: BUSH PLOT TO BOMB HIS ARAB ALLY
Madness of war memo
By Kevin Maguire And Andy Lines
PRESIDENT Bush planned to bomb Arab TV station al-Jazeera in friendly Qatar, a "Top Secret" No 10 memo reveals.
But he was talked out of it at a White House summit by Tony Blair, who said it would provoke a worldwide backlash.
A source said: "There's no doubt what Bush wanted, and no doubt Blair didn't want him to do it." Al-Jazeera is accused by the US of fuelling the Iraqi insurgency.
The attack would have led to a massacre of innocents on the territory of a key ally, enraged the Middle East and almost certainly have sparked bloody retaliation.
A source said last night: "The memo is explosive and hugely damaging to Bush."
The Grim Crapper Continues...
November 22nd, 2005 at 10:25 amRight on Iraqis!! Right on Iraqis!!! Bushie will spin this too. The Iraqis know what they want to do.
November 22nd, 2005 at 10:26 amThere are sooo many Spin Stories out there. Thats what is saving the Current Administration.
November 22nd, 2005 at 10:31 am(The no-Spin Zone?) Give me a break.
I think this so funny. How is the Republican Party going to spin this. BRING OUR TROOP HOME. YES!! YES!!
November 22nd, 2005 at 10:33 amSeems like the Iraqi Puppets now want us to set a timetable..So using the chickenhawks logic a) the Iraqis want to embolden the insurgents B) want Bin Laden and Zaquari to run the country and C) turn Iraq into a training ground for Al Quida….I guess the A Team in the White House is just sitting around saying “I love it when a plan comes togetherâ€
November 22nd, 2005 at 10:35 amDon't suppose Bushco can refuse to set the timetable now. I'm wondering how they will try to claim that they changed their mind and it's now their idea.
November 22nd, 2005 at 10:37 amI think another important aspect is that the Iraqi's are a bit peeved that we lump the terrorists who attack Iraqi civilians together with the insurgents who attack the our troops. The need for Republicans for this bit of propaganda is trumping the Iraqis need to negotiate with representatives of the insurgency.
Remember that the Iraqis have to live with these people long after we are gone. Deliberate attacks against civilians is one of the few rules of warfare that is universally agreed to as "a very bad thing" and we do civilians a disservice by deliberately confusing attacks against troops as equivalent to terrorism against civilians.
As long as we are on their territory they cannot quell the violence since at this point the vast majority of Iraqis see the insurgent attacks against us as understandable. This is true even for people who are not antogonistic to the US like these Iraqi leaders.
November 22nd, 2005 at 10:45 amThis was the reason for the Chalabi visit to the US. He got the message across to Chainsaw that this was going to happen.
What now? King George does not have a leg to stand on, they have been cut out from under him.
Have another drink Georgie Porgie.
November 22nd, 2005 at 10:50 amif the current iraqi gvt won't play ball, we'll need to replace them with one that does.
Maybe Chalabi will be more cooperative?
November 22nd, 2005 at 10:56 amYet another reason why Bush and the NeoCons actually hate democracy, no matter what they claim.
November 22nd, 2005 at 10:56 amnow that THEY are asking for a deadline, can Bush and Cheney continue to criticize Americans for doing so? it'll certainly be harder to justify...
November 22nd, 2005 at 10:57 amSo, now the basic reason for this "war" will come to the front. . . What to do with all those American military bases? This effort wasn't intended to benefit Iraq but US oil companies. It will be interesting to see how "building democracy" will be transitioned into "protecting American" interests while managing to keep it connected to terrorism. This should be interesting.
November 22nd, 2005 at 10:58 amPablo in Mexico You are right, Chalabi came here to give us a message that they wanted us out of Iraq. How will the Republican spin this?
November 22nd, 2005 at 10:58 amNow the tax payers won't have to pay for the Iraqi war. We can take care of business at home like helping the American people that need it.
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:02 amIt's hard any more not to read a conspiracy into everything--is this a case of the puppet government being told to say this, giving the Bushies a way to start withdrawing troops and proclaim victory just in time for the '06 elections? They'd spin it as not "cutting and running" because the Iraqis requested it, meaning they're ready to stand on their own.
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:06 amTime for regime change 2? If it happens, let it happen here, not over there.
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:07 amPablo, Mary P, people... Chalabi's business in DC was the following:
http://www.neweconomics.org/gen/news_crudedesigns.aspx
No wonder Dick was so willing to meet him and so unwilling to talk to the world about it.
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:09 am#17 You know Dennis that same thought had crossed my mind. It does seem somewhat contrived. Given that the current regime in the WH has done EVERYTHING with the political thought in mind, this does seem to play just too pat with aiming at the 06 elections. The only thing you can count on with these guys is that they will try to trickf**k the system for their own advantage. God, I hope we're wrong though.
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:10 amBushie said we'd leave if they asked nice:
WASHINGTON, Jan. 27 – President Bush said in an interview on Thursday that he would withdraw American forces from Iraq if the new government that is elected on Sunday asked him to do so, but that he expected Iraq’s first democratically elected leaders would want the troops to remain as helpers, not as occupiers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/28/politics/28prexy.html?ei=5094&en=2734a762d6ebce2e&hp=&ex=1106888400&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print&position=
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:11 amTake that Cheney , you big dishonest ,contemptuous ,arrogant , lying blowhard .
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:12 amGo back to Halliburton and loose more moneys for that company with your astute management .
How inhospitable. After all we have done for them. Someone should remind the Iraqis that:
1. In 1991, we bombed their infrastructure;
2. In 1991, we bombed their industrial and agricultural base;
3. In 1991, we killed over 100,000 Iraqis;
4. In 1990, we imposed sanctions that ultimately killed over 1 million people;
5. From 1991 to 2002, we continuously bombed Iraq;
6. In 2003, we bombed Iraq again;
7. Since 2003, we have militarily occupied their country and wantonly destroyed all or parts of cities and killed tens of thousands more Iraqis.
And they want us to leave. Well, I never!!!
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:16 amAuthor of "Lying for Empire: How to Commit War Crimes with a Straight Face"
What are your thoughts of Patrick J. Fitzgerald ?
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:16 amGreat catch chill, I'm going to update the main post.
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:17 am#17 This has every thing to do with the election of '06. The people in America do not want this war. Our children and grandchildren will be paying for this war for years. We can not afford this war. We are so far in debt that we will never see a surplus again.
Sorry I am a little off topic.
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:17 amThe Iraqis not only want us out, but they also said the insurgents weren't terrorists if they didn't attack civilians.
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:18 amGood post's every one, I agree. This bunch in our wh are doing everything possible to accomplish their goals of dominating the oil fields in Iraq and setting us up for the big with drawel timed to the 06 elections. Nothing they do suprises me, they are truly evil....Blessings
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:20 amThe neocons and the bush cabal should sit down, make an honest assessment of the their actions and then hang their heads in shame.
A little soul searching to come to terms with what they have wrought.
They won't. It'll probably be more war. It means more money for them.
all is fair in love and war. If it means everybody suffers, then that's fine with the bush cabal too.
pray for their sorry arses
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:21 am#27 -- I don't care how the Iraqis define a terrorist. It's how we define it that counts. Besides, they are killing plenty of civilians so they are terrorists even by the Iraqi definition.
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:21 amThe Iraqis hate freedom! They want to cut and run! Cowards! (ka-bloom as heads explode)
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:22 am#29 -- so Bush dragged us into war to make himself more money? I thought it was because God told him to... you guys need to get you delusions straight.
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:24 amLet's see ... who's left that doesn't think we need an exit strategy ... Bush, Cheney, al Qaeda, Jean Schmidt ... yeah, that's about it.
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:28 amI wonder what the administration's plan will be in coming year?
"Swift dramatic action from a steadfast leader" when codpiece annouces "our mission has been accomplished, the terrorists are in retreat. It is time for us to withdraw from Iraq."
Will it help with the 2006 midterms? Remember, they CAN NOT LOSE EITHER THE HOUSE OR SENATE, if they do they whole can of sh*t of GOP governence will be exposed. So, how much of the constitution will be "set aside" to hold on to power? Because, loss of power would be fatal to them.
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:31 amBremmer,"we don't stay in countries where we're not welcome"
There's your side splitter for the day.WHOOOOOWHoWHo
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:43 amIraq Asks the US to Set Timetable to Get Out.
Iraqis ask American to get the hell out of their nation.
From the AP
CAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Leaders of Iraq's sharply divided Shiites, Kurds and Sunnis called Monday for a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S.-led forces in the country and said Iraq...
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:58 amThis situation reminds me of people that come over to your house and then don't know when to leave.
Iraq: Thanks for everything, but seriously, when are you guys leaving?
U.S.: We won't have you disrespecting our trrops this way!
Wow. Talk about some *more* good PR for the war machine.
November 22nd, 2005 at 12:00 pm"This situation reminds me of people that come over to your house and then don’t know when to leave."
You know what they say about fish, house guests, and occupying forces....
November 22nd, 2005 at 12:06 pm#39 I agree, isn't that a 3 day throw out.? Were way past that and I for one am in a hurry to get this bunch thrown out with the trash....Blessings
November 22nd, 2005 at 12:46 pmI guess all of the trolls are ignoring this thread until they get their talking points from Hannity and Limbaugh.
Once that happens, be prepared for the spin to begin!
November 22nd, 2005 at 1:11 pm#26
I wouldn't say you're off topic.
November 22nd, 2005 at 1:23 pm#32-
200 billion dollars have been frittered out the window over in Iraq.
My delusions are correct.
George Bush prayed to God and God told him what to do.
George is off the hook. If God said it was ok, then it is His responsibility, not George's.
I got a feeling it was done for economic reasons.
God wouldn't be foolish enough to tell George it was ok to go to war. George was foolish enough to believe that it was God actually telling him what to do.
I don't know who had George's ear bent when he was reverently praying, but I don't think it was God whispering in his ear. Georges
He should pray to God to get permission to withdraw American and coalition forces from Iraq. If he would do that, he would be doing some praying. God will give him the answer he's looking for, not one somebody else has given him.
Might be a good idea. George getting rid of everybody around him and he just sit alone in the Oval Office. He could free his mind. Become a President of One.
He might be able to grin and bear it.
November 22nd, 2005 at 1:36 pmcynicon, God told him he needed more money.
November 22nd, 2005 at 1:46 pmTY for the Link #19 D. Fox
"People have increasingly come to realise that the Iraq war was about oil, profits and plunder. Despite claims from the politicians involved that this is a "conspiracy theory", our new report gives detailed evidence to show that Iraq's oil profits, far from being used to alleviate some of the suffering the Iraqi people now face, are well within the sights of the oil multi-nationals."
Sums up ONE aspect of the bigger picture. This poster thinks we need to go back to at least 1989 to get the full picture of Rendon group and Media manipulation began. -Aj
November 22nd, 2005 at 2:37 pm[...] This matters because it turns out the Iraqi government now wants the US to leave, and has even declared that attacks on Americans are no longer considered terrorism, but legitimate acts of resistance. I’m gonna guess DeWine still supports what former Secretary of State Colin Powell and former ambassador Paul Bremer once said was Bush Administration policy, namely that the US would leave when Iraqis tell us to leave. [...]
November 22nd, 2005 at 3:38 pmSo what's the going price of one old, defanged leader?
By this administration's calculations:
* 2100 American Soldiers
* 15000 American severely wounded
* 30,000+ Iraqi's dead
* 100,ooo Iraqi's wounded
* $250BB+ in Treasury
* The takedown of the most moderately secular state in the ME
* Our international reputation
And still, Osama bin Laden, the acknowledged leader behind the 9/11 attack is somewhere free, laughing his ass off.
Anyone know what the next excuse will be to ignore the Iraqi demands for us to leave?
November 22nd, 2005 at 3:50 pmI don't care how the Iraqis define a terrorist. It's how we define it that counts. Besides, they are killing plenty of civilians so they are terrorists even by the Iraqi definition.
Comment by cynicon implant — November 22, 2005 @ 11:21 am
That statement smacks of arrogance. Besides, you should care because American troops are in Iraq. It is their country, their rules. And their rule now is:
"Though resistance is a legitimate right for all people, terrorism does not represent resistance. Therefore, we condemn terrorism and acts of violence, killing and kidnapping targeting Iraqi citizens and humanitarian, civil, government institutions, national resources and houses of worship"
In a nutshell: Killing Iraqis -not ok. Killing foreign troops -perfectly legitimate resistance.
November 22nd, 2005 at 3:51 pm#47 You're bang-on, Inno. Bystander. They'll say it's BECAUSE they wasted so much blood and treasure that they have to recoup their costs.
How long before they depose the Iraqi gov't and install a new bunch of compliant cronies?
We're talking about people who don't even believe in democracy AT HOME. Why should they take into account what the Iraqis say?
#41. You're right, LL. I wonder how the spinmeisters are going to deal with this. Their heads must be exploding.
November 22nd, 2005 at 4:49 pmSlam Murtha one day, say desent is ok the next???
November 22nd, 2005 at 6:11 pmChalabi was just here and had his face time with the big guys. Chalabi is back and game plan has changed.
Something smells here......
Fools. You think we will get our troops home? Now the Repugs are free to attack the next country on the list. Heads--Iran; Tails--Syria. Chalabi came to town to introduce us to Curveball II and pass on some critical info about where the phantom WMDs are located. The chemical weapons were spirited over the border into Syria and the biological and nuclear agents were projected into Iran. If we don't invade one or both countries by the end of '06 it may be too late to mount a new campaign before Bushie's term ends.
November 22nd, 2005 at 6:21 pmCAIRO, Egypt (AP) - Leaders of Iraq's sharply divided Shiites, Kurds and Sunnis called Monday for a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S.-led forces in the country and said Iraq's opposition had a ``legitimate right'' of resistance.
" The final communique, hammered out at the end of three days of negotiations at a preparatory reconciliation conference under the auspices of the Arab League, condemned terrorism, but was a clear acknowledgment of the Sunni position that insurgents should not be labeled as terrorists if their operations do not target innocent civilians or institutions designed to provide for the welfare of Iraqi citizens. "
These are not leaders of Iraq. These are leaders of the opposition to the building of democracy in the middle of Mid East thugocracies. Damn...it looks to me that little meeting was a target of opportunity.
Leave it to the Guardian to try and make ice cream out of a load of shit.
November 22nd, 2005 at 6:27 pmTen days after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, President Bush was told in a highly classified briefing that the U.S. intelligence community had no evidence linking the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein to the attacks and that there was scant credible evidence that Iraq had any significant collaborative ties with Al Qaeda, according to government records and current and former officials with firsthand knowledge of the matter.
Source http://nationaljournal.com/about/njweekly/stories/2005/1122nj1.htm
November 22nd, 2005 at 6:29 pmMizzWrong,
You can't read can you, well it seems that way. Your own excerpt contradicts you. Iraqis are a PART of the arab leaque. Under the 'auspicies' of the league, doesn't change the fact that it came from the 3 groups of Iraqis. Once again you show why the republican illiterate should not be trusted with matters of national security. You're clearly retarded, inept and foolish beyond fathom.
November 22nd, 2005 at 6:31 pmAnyone know what the next excuse will be to ignore the Iraqi demands for us to leave?
Comment by Innocent Bystander
The Sunni Iraqis have been demanding we leave before we ever got there. You know the difference between the Sunni and the Shi'ite don't you? Hummm? Here's a hint...the Sunni have been killing the Iraqi shi'ites for a couple of hundred years or more and they are still doing it. They like to bomb mosques and school and playgrounds. Those are the people the Guardian and the Filthy Left call "leaders". Saddam is a Sunni part of a small minority in Iraq. Nobody cares what the Sunni think, except the Filthy Left.
November 22nd, 2005 at 6:32 pmMizzWrong, you writing about the Sunnis sound just like just Hitler talking about the Jews. You're a whacko moron!
November 22nd, 2005 at 7:26 pmI-RIGHT-I and MIGHTY APHRODITE are KKKers. Check out Post No. 188 here: http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/22/schmidt-marine/
November 22nd, 2005 at 8:52 pm"The Sunni Iraqis have been demanding we leave before we ever got there. You know the difference between the Sunni and the Shi’ite don’t you? Hummm? Here’s a hint…the Sunni have been killing the Iraqi shi’ites for a couple of hundred years or more and they are still doing it. They like to bomb mosques and school and playgrounds. Those are the people the Guardian and the Filthy Left call “leadersâ€. Saddam is a Sunni part of a small minority in Iraq. Nobody cares what the Sunni think, except the Filthy Left."
God your a moron. The Sunnis aren't the ones who called for a timetable moron. All three waring factions together asked us to leave. Yes, that's right. The only thing these three factions have done together for hundreds of years is to ask us when we are leaving. Go do some research idiot. It won't take long, it is on the front page of every newspaper in the country, right, left, conservative and liberal. It is everywhere. All three factions. ALL GODDAMN THREE.
November 22nd, 2005 at 9:42 pmHere, I did the fvcking work for you a$$hole:
"Leaders of Iraq's sharply divided Shiites, Kurds and Sunnis called Monday for a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S.-led forces in the country and said Iraq's opposition had a ``legitimate right'' of resistance."
You see how it states all goddamn three factions? You are an idiot.
November 22nd, 2005 at 9:44 pmCome on bitch. You done been fvcking owned.
You're a retard and I just proved it. Now come back with one of your stupid ass attacks.
DO it, do the same thing the washington republicans are doing, which is costing them heavily.
Call me spoodge or fudge or sponge or some idiotic thing like that.
We know you can't win in a war of knowledge, so try and do it with slurs.
Your turn.
November 22nd, 2005 at 10:09 pm"Nobody cares what the Sunni think, except the Filthy Left."
Silly Beta-Monkey....we only care that the people of Iraq want us out of their country.
Here, have another virtual banana -> (
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:14 pm[...] Frankly, I’m surprised that Atrios, Judd and John Aravosis haven’t thought this through to its logical conclusion. While I understand and sympathize with the virulently pro-withdrawl faction—I think they often miss the finer points of contention. [...]
November 22nd, 2005 at 11:31 pmIt won’t take long, it is on the front page of every newspaper in the country, right, left, conservative and liberal. It is everywhere. All three factions. ALL GODDAMN THREE.
Comment by SpudgeBoy
No, it's not, dummy. It's the Arab league. Read it again.
November 23rd, 2005 at 4:45 pmNo, it’s not, dummy. It’s the Arab league. Read it again.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — November 23, 2005 @ 4:45 pm
Obviously you don't take well new you don't like, but this is ridiculous. You have outdone yourself now.
The Iraqi Reconciliation Conference was held in Cairo under the auspices of the Arab League. Other news say the event was sponsored by the League.
In case case, the Arab League did not issue the communique -they merely facilitated the conference in preparation for another, bigger conference to be held in January. The communique was written and signed by leaders of the three main Iraqi factions. Not by the League.
One of the Iraqi leaders participanting in the conference was Raad a-Alousi, ambassador to the Arab League. Iraq has an ambassador to the League, because they are one of the founding members: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_League
Of course such an important event would be held under the auspices of the League. And -needless to say- with the approval of the U.S.
November 24th, 2005 at 1:12 amGregor,
MizzWrong is 'barely literate', english clearly is hard for him to read. It explains why he's so retarded he believes the bible 'literally', and thinks the APA isn't qualified to treat him...
November 24th, 2005 at 1:17 amOf course such an important event would be held under the auspices of the League. And -needless to say- with the approval of the U.S.
Comment by Gregor Samsa
Not bloody likely with our approval. Everything you need to know about the Iraqi delegation to this meaningless meeting of like minded terrorist supporters is here...
"The final communique, hammered out at the end of three days of negotiations at a preparatory reconciliation conference under the auspices of the Arab League, condemned terrorism, but was a clear acknowledgment of the Sunni position that insurgents should not be labeled as terrorists if their operations do not target innocent civilians or institutions designed to provide for the welfare of Iraqi citizens."
Of course they are talking out of both sides of their face as most of the real damage done in Iraq has been to Iraqi Shi'ite civilians by the Sunni as they began early on targeting schools, hospitals and infrastructure.
This is a blatant attempt to draw criticism away from the real purpose of the terrorists which is to terrorize the common Iraqi and hold them hostage and make it seem that if only the Americans would leave there would be peace. Guess what? It's not going to work.
November 25th, 2005 at 12:28 pmHey John Murtha, you'd better hurry up and surrender before our enemies do.
Of course the Arab League is seething.
Several insurgents groups have contacted President Jalal Talabani's office in the past few days, with some saying they are ready to lay down their arms and join the political process, the presidential security adviser said Thursday. [...]
Talabani said last weekend in Egypt he was ready for talks with anti-government opposition figures as well as Baathists. He called the Sunni-led insurgents to lay down their weapons and join the political process.
"Many groups have called and some of them clearly expressed the readiness to join the political process," al-Samaraei said. This shows that "the initiative was welcomed by Iraqis."
In the western province of Anbar, members of some militant groups told the AP that they had been in talks with Deputy Prime Minister Ahmad Chalabi for about two weeks but would not say how they were going.
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/news/local/13250742.htm
November 25th, 2005 at 12:53 pmI wonder if the King would have been so bold without the US Marines so close at hand? Fat chance.
AMMAN, Jordan — Jordan's King Abdullah II urged his new prime minister Thursday to launch an all-out war against Islamic militancy in the wake of the triple hotel bombings earlier this month that killed 63 people.
In a letter to newly appointed Prime Minister Marouf al-Bakhit, Abdullah said the Nov. 9 bombings "increase our determination to stick to our reform and democratization process, which is irreversible."
"At the same time, it reaffirms our need to adopt a comprehensive strategy to confront the Takfiri culture," Abdullah said, referring to the ideology adopted by Al Qaeda and other militants who condone the killing of those they consider infidels.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176646,00.html
November 25th, 2005 at 12:56 pmAnother kind of war protestor....YIKES!!!
The leader of Iraq's most powerful political party has called on the United States to let Iraqi fighters take a more aggressive role against insurgents, saying his country will only be able to defeat the insurgency when the United States lets Iraqis get tough.
"The more freedom given to Iraqis, the more chance for further progress there would be, particularly in fighting terror," said Abdul Aziz Hakim, head of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, the Shiite Muslim religious party that leads the transitional government and whose armed wing is the most feared of Iraq's many factional forces.
Instead, Hakim asserted in a rare interview late last week, the United States is tying Iraq's hands in the fight against insurgents. One of Iraq's "biggest problems is the mistaken or wrong policies practiced by the Americans," he said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/26/AR2005112601211.html
Now, let's be clear. This is one of the real leaders of Iraq and he's telling us to get out of the way and let them do what needs to be done to clean out the Sunni Triangle and the Sunni insurgents coming in from Syria and Iran. I think he's tired of his mosques, grade schools and weddings being bombed and his people killed. The good thing is when he gets his chance (and he will) there won't be any peace/love/dove Leftwing Loser Democrats around crying about abuse and atrocities committed against the terrorists and tying the hands of the military. Why? Because he'll kill all the whiners he can and deport the rest. There will be no more Democrats visiting Iraq. So who do you think really wants to cut troops and hand over more responsibility to the Iraqis? Bush or the Donks?
November 27th, 2005 at 10:46 amThis is good news and reflective of all the good work that so many groups are doing including the AFL-CIO, Jobs with Justice, Wake Up Wal-Mart and Wal-Mart Watch. It's no doubt this is why Wal-Mart is advertising about how their employees (ooops, associates) love their jobs and benefits.
December 12th, 2005 at 10:39 amThe more freedom given to Iraqis, the more chance for further progress there would be, particularly in fighting terror,†said Abdul Aziz Hakim, head of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, the Shiite Muslim religious party that leads the transitional government and whose armed wing is the most feared of Iraq’s many factional forces.
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