Rule Changes Allow Police To Arrest War Protestors Near Crawford
Rule Changes Allow Police To Arrest War Protestors Near Crawford
This August, pesky war protestors hounded Bush during his month-long vacation at his ranch in Crawford. What’s the solution? Change the law:
In August, hundreds of demonstrators camped off the road during a 26-day protest led by Sheehan, whose 24-year-old soldier son Casey was killed in Iraq last year. But a month later, county commissioners banned camping in any county ditch and parking within 7 miles of the ranch, citing safety and traffic congestion issues.
Earlier this week, three demonstrators filed a federal lawsuit against McLennan County over the two local bans.
Now, as Bush hunkers down in Crawford for an extended Thanksgiving vacation, protestors can be hauled off by the police:
A dozen war protesters were arrested Wednesday for setting up camp near President Bush’s ranch in defiance of new local bans on roadside camping and parking.
As Vice President Cheney reminded us this week “disagreement, argument, and debate are the essence of democracy.†Just don’t let your disagreement get too close to the ranch.
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Gotta get ready, the Crawford Chickenshit will be home soon!
November 23rd, 2005 at 8:17 pmI’ll bet his dad is looking forward to spending this holiday offering him generous portions of crow.
President Bush has decided to defend himself by offering the American people four falsehoods regarding the path to war. “Same intelligence”, “no manipulation”, “no pressure” and “rewriting history”- are fitting lies for a President now viewed by a majority of Americans as dishonest and unethical.
For the full story, see:
“Bush Rewrites History”
November 23rd, 2005 at 8:18 pmAs long as they are protesting SOMEWHERE, Bush can’t escape it. If there are protesters in the town, the media will cover it (how much they cover, I don’t know). but the protesters keep the subject at the front and that forces Bush on the defense, no matter how far he physically gets away from the protesters.
November 23rd, 2005 at 8:27 pmMr. Bush, I just got a call from Colonel Danny Bubp, he had this message. Cowards cut and run from protesters.
-Mean Jean Schmidt(R-Swirling Down a Toilet)
November 23rd, 2005 at 8:42 pmHe can run, but he can’t hide. The protestors will be somewhere, and they will be seen.
November 23rd, 2005 at 8:45 pmIt’s hyporcitical (what else is new) for Bush to deny protesting anywhere near his Crawford estate, when he has sent our troops to defend democracy in Iraq.
As for Cheney, well, he is wasting no time in rewriting history – or what he now denies he said, when all of us saw/heard him and it is on tape. All this before he attends a fund raiser for Tom Delay next week.
If they were not in control of all the government the media they would not be able to get away with the bold, outrageous comments, but times, they are a-changing, and when the Dems gain more control, these asses are going to be really sorry asses.
if bush was a REAL president, he would ask for community donations to help make their stay more comfortable and send over thanksgiving dinner… honoring protest is honorable even in the face of disagreement…
November 23rd, 2005 at 8:46 pm#6, prof,
November 23rd, 2005 at 9:00 pmTHAT would be noble; unfortunately, Bush has no concept of such. Then again, no one in his administration or family would have any idea of acting honorably or nobly — they are far too self-centered.
You’re absolutely right about how it could/should be handled.
Making the legal become ‘illegal’ was a favorite tactic of the German Nazis as well. Their children seem to have the same preferences when faced with disent and disagreement. A fascist, is a fascist.
November 23rd, 2005 at 9:01 pmWhat? No offering our troops a wax turkey from within the heavily fortified Green Zone this year? Instead, momma’s precious little poots will be spending an extended holiday safely ensconced at his cattleless Crawford ranch.
November 23rd, 2005 at 9:02 pmHe’s a pussy. Plain and simple. Not a real man at all, and most certainly not any sort of a president. Sic the ACLU on the Crawford Crackers’ collective asses. Safety and congestion, my ass. The most dangerous thing that could happen in Crawford is Da Prez “choking on a pretzel” in a drunken stupor again.
November 23rd, 2005 at 9:05 pmBush Thanksgiving Menu Select Items
November 23rd, 2005 at 9:30 pmLame duck souffle (GW fav)
Chickenhawk stuffing (Dubya’s “all timest” fav)
Marie Antoinette Cake (Gramma Barb’s homemade treat)
Have any of you heard? Micheal Moore is making a speech on C-Span tonight.
November 23rd, 2005 at 9:34 pmHave any of you heard? Micheal Moore is making a speech on C-Span tonight at 7:00.
November 23rd, 2005 at 9:35 pmTo our protesters (American hero’s) in Crawford,
Thank you for representing America and letting the Bushie family know that they are not worthy our support.
Stay strong and keep up the good work.
Happy Thanksgiving.
November 23rd, 2005 at 10:24 pmMM’s speech (Not Marilyn Monroe’s) is over, but he takes a few poignant digs at our current “leader” and his “leadership”. I can only hope that God does not listen to W as W is pointing a deaf ear to God.
November 23rd, 2005 at 10:28 pm#7. Treat Him as a Spoiled Rotten Kid that only Wants it His way.
November 23rd, 2005 at 10:32 pmPUNISHMENT.
Spoiled Rotten Child he is.
November 23rd, 2005 at 10:33 pmHas anyone here ever seen the movie”The Good Son” well, Imagine , Which one is GWB?
November 23rd, 2005 at 10:34 pm#19 -
November 23rd, 2005 at 10:44 pmYes, I saw it, but this time we are speaking of a nation – not just a family.
I am a Liberals worst Nightmare! This site will be next to make the sissy-man list. BEWARE!
November 23rd, 2005 at 10:45 pmhttp://cdubsissyman.blogspot.com/
ok, pretend the nations are sons, one son is america, the other is (you choose).(Afganistan or Iraq since we are AT war with Both)
November 23rd, 2005 at 10:48 pmwhich one is the Good Son?
Thank you Cindy and all of your supporters for fighting them overthere so we don’t have to fight them here.
You are all true American patriots.
November 23rd, 2005 at 10:49 pmChristopher Williams # 21 -
November 23rd, 2005 at 10:52 pmTruth, patriotism and loyalty are missing from your web site.
Yes, Thank You Cindy and All.
#21. is none other than buckfush.hehe.
Christopher Williams
Age: 27
Gender: male
Astrological Sign: Aquarius
Zodiac Year: Snake
Industry: Consulting
Location: Plaquemine : Louisiana : United States
About Me
In 2004 I ran for City Council in Plaquemine, Louisiana. I was elected into a runoff and lost the runoff with 40% of the votes. Since then I have taken an interest in politics on a state level. One day I might even be the governor of Louisiana.
Interests
November 23rd, 2005 at 10:53 pmLouisiana Politics Fantasy Football LSU football NFL History.
Favorite Movies
Remember the Titans Star Wars Rounders Sum of all Fear Sea Biscuit Varsity Blues Dukes of Hazzard etc etc.
Favorite Music
Anti American Scum!! Protesting. Shit they might even believe in free speech!! I hate them. Our country would be much better if we all could just spew the talking points of the Bush-cheney propaganda machine!
November 23rd, 2005 at 10:54 pm?
November 23rd, 2005 at 10:54 pmWhere are the videos of the arrests in Crawford, Texas~Bush ranck thanksgiving ? thank you
November 23rd, 2005 at 11:18 pmDumbya is all hat – no cattle. His so called little ranch is a former pig farm. Never had any cattle on it, never will. So, not a ranch, just a pig farm now with only one trained monkey in residence.
It is good to be the monkey king, if you get a little uncomfortable when the protesters are at the gates, make it illegal for them to assemble. A favorite tactic of Nazis. After all, grand pappy made a fortune financing Hitler and the Nazi machine, so those little ideas of how to squash dissent were passed on generation to generation.
But you have to admit it must be horrid even for someone like dumbya to know he is evil, hated and the most disliked man on the planet including Hitler. No wonder he is back on the coke & booze. Looking in the mirror he must really hate what he has become.
I know that as a child he tortured animals, and his parents hated this behavior. He routinely stuck firecrackers up cat’s anuses and set them off. He stuck firecrackers in frogs mouths and did the same. He even boiled a dog to death to watch it die.
You all know most little boys that torture animals don’t grow up to be (p)Resident, they grow up to be serial killers.
Food for thought.
November 24th, 2005 at 12:20 amJust letting you know of a good article. Short and to the point on how to get out of Iraq. http://observer.com/politics_joeconason.asp
November 24th, 2005 at 1:27 amThis is what is going on. Shot, yes, but dead, no!!
Still you believe they die.
http://judicial-inc.biz/Israelis_In_Iraq.htm
November 24th, 2005 at 5:27 amLOL @ 21
Your worst nightmare is in Office.
Besides, your obviously another Flush Dimbulb Parrot, with the same tired dribbly drool freeper speak, most likely gleaned from a Jonah Goldberg list of racisms.
No go away girlie-man, you dont bother me =) –Aj
November 24th, 2005 at 5:55 amLibby Out, Two New
NeoCons In – And Why
Saddam Was Deleted
“Saddam is not like the Saudi Princes who spend the bulk of their lives outside of their country, and who fritter away the Kingdom’s oil profits on prostitutes and bottles of champagne in Paris. No, Saddam is building railways! Creating electrical networks! Highways and other important elements of a serious State infrastructure! After eights years of war against the Iranian regime of Khomeini, he desperately needs to demobilize his Republican Guard, which incorporates so many of this technical elite, in order to rebuild the war-devastated country. These people are his technicians, his engineers. If they are put to work in the way Saddam wishes, they will rapidly make Iraq the most advanced power in the region, and we cannot allow this to happen.”
By Karl W B Schwarz
kwbschwarz@comcast.net
11-16-5
We have decided to speed up the process on bringing out the next two email updates back to back on November 16th and 19th since they are related and expose some information that Americans need to consider carefully.
Over the years I have kept a special list of those Neo-conservatives who are out front and right in our faces, those in the back office and those stealthy planners who devise the covert ops of the neo-conservative agenda. The PNAC crowd, for example, contains all three groups.
Even as I. Lewis Libby was indicted and then resigned his position as Vice President Cheney’s Chief of Staff, Mr. Cheney has elevated two other PNAC insiders that have the same agenda as Libby.
By Jonathan S. Landay and Warren P. Strobel
Knight Ridder Newspapers
WASHINGTON – Vice President Dick Cheney replaced I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby as his national security adviser on Monday with an aide identified by a former Iraqi exile group as the White House official to whom it fed information on Iraq that turned out to be erroneous.
The Bush administration relied on some of the information from the Iraqi National Congress to argue that Saddam Hussein had to be ousted before he could give banned biological or chemical weapons to al-Qaida for strikes on the United States.
But no such weapons were discovered after the March 2003 invasion, and U.S. intelligence agencies and the independent commission on the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks found no evidence of operational cooperation between Iraq and al-Qaida.
The White House announced on Monday the elevation of John Hannah to replace Libby as Cheney’s national security adviser. Earlier in the day it announced that Libby would be arraigned Thursday in federal court on charges of perjury, making false statements and obstruction of justice. He was expected to plead innocent.
The White House also announced that David S. Addington, who’s been Cheney’s legal counsel, would assume Libby’s duties as chief of staff. Like Hannah, Addington has played a quiet, though influential, role in the vice president’s office. The Washington director of Human Rights Watch accused Addington of helping draft policies that led to the abuse of prisoners in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The vice president’s office has previously denied that Hannah received INC information. Cheney’s office didn’t respond immediately to questions Monday about Hannah and Addington.”"
Ladies and Gentlemen, there is a grand cover-up in progress and the White House cannot afford to have any clean-handed Boy Scouts spill the beans
If you are not familiar with Mr. Addington, he was one of the architects of official torture policies and the U.S.-our government and soldiers-entering into the commission of war crimes. Cheney’s Addington Was Chief Author of U.S. Torture, War Crimes Policy
http://larouchepub.com/other/2005/3244addington.html
By all reports, Mr. Addington is yet another fascist PNAC-style Neocon, so don’t think for even a minute that they are cleaning up matters inside of the White House. They cannot afford to do that and keep concealed the many lies this Bush Administration has spoken from the day he entered office.
Information keeps surfacing about Mr. I. Lewis Libby that can help you form an opinion of his background, his connections, and his real allegiances.
Foreign Influence
By Charley Reese
11/11/05 — – I don’t share the president’s high opinion of I. Lewis Libby, now under indictment for obstruction of justice, making false statements and committing perjury.
He was, after all, the lawyer who for years represented Marc Rich, the fugitive billionaire who renounced his own country. It was Libby who arranged the last-minute presidential pardon of Rich issued by Bill Clinton – a pardon that stank to high heaven. Rich, along with a number of Russian oligarchs the Russian government would like to get its hands on, is now an Israeli citizen.
Libby was also part of the trio of neoconservatives who pushed the phony intelligence in order to get the U.S. to go to war. Another member of that trio, John Hannah, has now replaced Libby as Vice President Dick Cheney’s national-security adviser. As described by Juan Cole in an excellent article at Salon.com. “Most of the members of Cheney’s inner circle were neoconservative ideologues, who combined hawkish American triumphalism with an obsession with Israel.”
In fact, Ms. Condoleezza Rice is now suggesting that the Sunni Iraqis get with the program because “unity is good for Iraq”. She made the following statement in meeting with Sunni leaders in Iraq – Divisions “may be differences of history or tradition, culture or ethnicity, but in a democratic process these differences can be a strength rather than a handicap,” I trust you recognize the political correctness message in that and you can bet all you have that Rice did not make the sale. They are not even talking about victory in Iraq any more, just “successful resolutions”.
The Condoleezza Rice “Democracy Summit” in the Middle East-where she was explained her vision and that of Bush and Cheney that all Arab nations need to be democracies-was a total flop. None of the Arab nations attending want to try and insert Americanized democracies into their nations. They have a perfect example to look at and that is the complete disaster that Bush and his Neocon buddies have wrought in Iraq.
At the same time Bush has come out swinging from the Bully Pulpit against anyone daring to question his policies or his sanity for still asking you to continue deluding yourself that things are just great in Iraq. This is at a time when polls show that 57% of Americans no longer think George Bush to be an honest man and his overall approval rating is under 40%. Some in the GOP have even circulated a memo stating that another “terror attack” on the United States would re-unite Americans behind what might be the worst president this nation has ever seen and shore up the GOP with renewed energy. His desires in Latin America flopped on FTAA and now his grand vision for democracies in the Muslim world is flopping too.
As my grandfather used to say about people like Bush, “he is obviously not hemmed in by the truth.”
Now that I am making a bid for the Office of President of the United States, the list of Neoconservatives we have assembled will come in handy in making sure that we will have the identity of the Neocons and can purge them from both inside the federal government and eliminate their consultant work for the federal government.
From my perspective, the Neocons have proven themselves to be of no benefit to the United States in any manner whatsoever. If I have a say in the matter, they will be purged from having anything to do with the decision making apparatus of the United States. Their agenda is adverse to our best interests. That would be one of my first priorities, to rid our government of the influence of the un-American Neocons. They are not liberals or progressives, they are not conservatives. They are fascist Troskyites that do not represent the America we believe in and hold dear.
That list is an extensive one and has names many would not suspect. For example, John Fund, former editorial voice of the Wall Street Journal, is a well-known Neocon operative behind the scenes. You see, the Neocons do not want America to know that the editorial voice of such an august publication is actually spouting off the Straussian, Troskyite philosophy of the Neocons. The Neocons would not want you to know that some of the content that many readers peruse in the WSJ is mere fascist propaganda. As with Hitler and Goebbels, tell the lie enough times and people begin to believe it is the truth.
There is a reason that Mr. Fund is no longer the main editorial writer for the Wall Street Journal. He assaulted a girlfriend and beat her nearly to death. It took about six months for her wounds to heal from that beating and that matter is currently tied up in the courts with formal charges against Mr. Fund. I personally know the woman he assaulted and she informed me of some of his very strange habits, such as listening to Hitler speeches in his spare time. Mr. Fund was raised in Germany and I even stunned him one time by asking him to his face what part of Germany he was from or raised in. His elocution of the English language is too precise, just as pronunciation of the German language is if one is fluent in High German. He was somewhat taken aback that I listen so closely. If you have ever heard him on TV (he was a regular guest on Chris Mathews’ Hardball), Mr. Fund does not posses a local accent that would give anyone a clue as to what part of the United States he comes from. That is because he was raised in Germany, not the United States.
The Neocons are not conservatives in the literal sense of the word and hold unapologetically fascist opinions about the role of the state. Just one look at the rampant spending of Bush I and Bush II in the earlier email update regarding GNP and National Debt ought to be enough to convince you that these two men are not fiscal conservatives by any stretch of the imagination. They have an agenda and that agenda is Pro-Israel, Pro-Saudi and Pro-Neocon, and never do such matters as “what is best for America” come into their operative thought processes. It is all about Big Oil, Big Defense and what is best for their buddies in the energy and defense businesses.
Another behind-the-scenes Neocon is Dr. Edward Luttwak, scholar, author and Pentagon advisor. His name does not pop up much but he nonetheless figures as an important Neoconservative theorist.
I was surprised to see his name and his comments in print in Neoconned Again, page 30, in an article written by Maurizio Blondet about Iraq and was included in the revealing Neoconned and Neoconned Again books. If you have not read them, I highly recommend that you do. They are available through my website at http://www.karlschwarz2008.com/platform.htm
If you read those two books, prepare yourself for a harsh dose of reality regarding the morality of this nation, or lack of it, in regards to this current Bush Administration, Bush I and even the Clinton Administration. This nation can claim no moral high ground on the basis alone of our conduct in Iraq over the past twenty five years.
This is cited from page 29-30 of Neoconned Again:
“I put through a call to Dr. Edward Luttwak, the internationally renowned author, lecturer, historian, military strategist and Pentagon consultant. Well-known in political circles in Italy, he had studied the military power of the Roman Empire here and was thus well able to express himself in Italian. I asked him whether the White House really was prepared to invade Iraq with all of its attendant risks? “We are very serious,” he answered. He continued: “We are going to bomb Iraq back into the Stone Age.” But why is this necessary, I answered, finding Luttwak’s bluntness somewhat at variance with his reputation for subtle thinking and expression. Almost warming to the subject, he continues:
“Saddam is not like the Saudi Princes who spend the bulk of their lives outside of their country, and who fritter away the Kingdom’s oil profits on prostitutes and bottles of champagne in Paris. No, Saddam is building railways! Creating electrical networks! Highways and other important elements of a serious State infrastructure! After eights years of war against the Iranian regime of Khomeini, he desperately needs to demobilize his Republican Guard, which incorporates so many of this technical elite, in order to rebuild the war-devastated country. These people are his technicians, his engineers. If they are put to work in the way Saddam wishes, they will rapidly make Iraq the most advanced power in the region, and we cannot allow this to happen.”
That comment was made in 2002 well in advance of the invasion of Iraq. Note that Mr. Luttwak used the pronoun “we” as he is part of the group that was going after an objective.
If you are one of the many Americans who no longer accept the official reasons given for attacking Iraq, that statement is a clear example of what was going on behind the scenes. There were no WMD in Iraq. There was no imminent threat from Iraq towards the United States. There was no tie between Saddam and Al Qaeda found anywhere, at any time. All this has been proven over time: Bush and Blair lied the US and UK into this war. Even the Downing Street Memo, something that Bush and Blair have both refused to address, makes it clear the war had been planned long before it was started. Iraq was constructing a full-service, heavy infrastructure built on policies contrary to U.S. policy that all Middle East nations but Israel stay in impoverished, third world status.
Despite his well advertised crimes, Saddam Hussein was also building Iraq into an example for what the Arab nations could be, and the U.S. and Israel could not allow that to happen. The primary threat was that Iraq was well on its way to being as advanced in many ways as the United States or Europe in terms of government functions and infrastructure. That would be embarrassing to all of those other Arab nations that reap the oil moneys for the Royal Families while their populations live in poverty.
In Neoconned it is clear that even during Desert Storm in 199, and during the period of economic sanctions and “No Fly Zones”, the United States and Great Britain were targeting non-military sites like water pumping stations, municipal waste treatment facilities, dams, hydroelectric generation stations, schools, hospitals, oil and gas infrastructure, et cetera to blast Iraq into the “stone age” and keep them there. Any target that was beneficial to quality of life was hit, and one million Iraqis died during that period due mainly to rampant disease, poor sanitation, diminished health care and dangerous drinking water. Called by any other name, that is still genocide. It shames this nation and infuriates the world against our abusive and inhumane policies.
Such a policy has nothing to do with U.S. National Security, it has everything to do with Saudi and Israeli security. It has to do with keeping the status quo in Arab nations at is lowest common denominator, that being wealth for an elite few and mind-numbing poverty for the vast majority of their citizens. Such a policy has resulted in close to one million Iraqis dying during the U.S. – U.N. sanctions alone, not to mention how many were killed in Gulf War I and II. Even machinery to grind flour was denied by the U.S. under the excuse of being “dual use” technology, though no arms programs were in progress, period. Medicines, chlorine for water treatment, diapers, needles, medical and dental supplies, farm equipment and many other items were arbitrarily denied by the U.S. and U.K. while those Iraqis were dying as a result of our negligence and malignant attitude. Malicious and malevolent are words that fit our policies towards Iraq over the past twenty five years. Anything related to quality of life was denied because the end game was to crush a country that was becoming an embarrassment to the other Arab nations.
One of the things that stands out in the Neoconned books is that we apply moral standards to all but ourselves in how this nation conducts itself, whether in international business, law, war, or in meddling in the affairs of other nations, especially if those nations have valuable natural resources like natural gas or oil. It was that way all the way back to the Nuremburg trials when the court had to decide cautiously if the Nazis had committed a war crime that we did not. The Nazis were tried for those crimes, yet if both sides had committed the same atrocities those charges were not brought up because the prosecution did not want a defense to disclose what U.K. and U.S. forces had done.
It is my considered opinion that George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush-along with many who served in their administrations-should be tried for war crimes and genocide against the Iraqi and Afghani peoples. Read Neoconned and Neoconned Again. If you have any decency in your heart or conscience in your soul, you will come to the same conclusion.
I have been watching this nation slide downhill for the past three presidential administrations but could not quite put my finger on the underlying problem. Now I know in my heart that we have been led by evil men doing the bidding of evil masters. The deeds done in our name by these people is not foreign policy; it is a systematic abuse of human rights and human dignity. It has been a systematic program of genocide. They have even interfered in sovereign nations that pose, then or now, no threat to the United States whatsoever. I remember well when she was asked to justify the inhumane treatment of the Iraqis Madeline Albright’s comment that the deaths of all of those Iraqi children was worth it.
I have come to conclusion that there has been no “finest hour” for America at any time during the administrations of George H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton or George W. Bush. They all stand for the same ugly despicable thing and that is not the America I believe in.
This nation is standing at the edge of the abyss. Those who are morally competent always stay well back from the abyss, but our leaders are leading us straight into that abyss, which is a polite way of saying they are either insane, corrupted by power or greed, or are not morally competent men and women.
Unlike most Americans, I can leave the U.S. and do very well in Europe and elsewhere in nanotechnology but I choose to stand and fight for the nation I love. I have given these matters much thought, and frankly do not take pride in being American as I have in the past. Now I know the truth, and the truth of our leaders and their policies is an ugly thing. Their actions are nothing to take pride in. I see the next two elections of 2006 and 2008 as either the turning point where we might change America back to what it was always intended to be, or the beginning of the requiem for America.
We are a nation of great people, led by a government that does not deserve us. I ask that you read that again, they do not deserve us and we deserve better than the likes of them.
By the end of this current Bush Administration, this nation will be $10 trillion or more in debt. By 2014 it is projected that it will take 60% of the GNP of the United States to service the foreign debt holders that have purchased the debt that allowed Washington, D.C. to act so recklessly and irresponsibly. We have an entire government, sworn to uphold the Constitution treating that document as toilet paper and our rights as subject to their whims.
If you think finding a job or earning a decent living for your family is hard now, just wait until the matter gets so far out of hand that the financial life of this nation is being sucked dry by the load of the National Debt. If you think your quality of life is slipping daily, wait until 2014 to make a decision about which way this nation is headed. Right now we are headed straight into the side of the mountain.
There are many Neocons that would be shown the door and blocked from access to our government and decision making processes if I had my way in the matter. The likes of Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Bill Kristol, David Frum, and about 1,000 other Neocons and Neocon wannabees would be removed and barred from the federal processes. In fact, if my instincts are right about Afghanistan and Iraq, and I had my way, many Neocons would be facing federal prosecution for treason, conspiracy to commit murder, murder, genocide, and other well deserved charges. Their entire agenda is based on lies and people are now dead because of the lies. I do not consider that a “no harm, no foul” circumstance since it was premeditated.
Our republic is no longer the light of the world. America has cast the dark shadow of American greed and it is growing uglier every day. Our policies are abusive and inhumane towards others and not even remotely based on fair, equitable relations.
Many Americans do not recognize fascism since it is so alien to what this nation is about and was always intended to be. However, what we have right now is a Mussolini style of economic fascism running rampant through our government and certain sectors of our corporate world. What they cannot pull off directly, they have taken over the controls of how the National Debt is being used to line their pockets and increase their wealth and power. Overseas in Afghanistan and Iraq we have deployed the Hitler style of fascism, complete with the blitzkrieg against innocent people who stand in the way of our unmitigated greed in Washington, DC and in our major corporations.
As a nation we find ourselves at a “Y” in the road. Taking either the left turn or the right turn are both the wrong solutions. The RNC and DNC are both owned by the same wealthy élite insiders and their agenda has not changed for the past three presidential administrations. The only correct direction is one of two alternatives. Reverse direction and do not take either side of the “Y” in the road, or like a wedge split the “Y” and create a new road.
The choice is for each and every one of us to make. It is time to tell Washington, D.C. and certain corporations that enough is enough.
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November 24th, 2005 at 6:49 am#21 Christopher Williams…Now THERE’S a FUNNY GUY…
Ok, where do I start? He’s from Plaquemine? Well, the citizens of Plaquemine must have some insight to your distorted view of government, because if I am correct…NO ONE would accuse Plaquemine, LA of being the hotbed of activity in Louisiana…
I was raised in Lafayette, and have been to St. Martinville, Breaux Bridge, Henderson, Ville Platte, etc. And that town was just as small (if not smaller) than those cities…
Now, if a population of less than 5000 can choose another opponent, rather than choosing you, wouldn’t that atest to your lack of credibility here? Oops, I digress…
Then you say Girly Man?? C’mon man! I clear and intelligent discourse would be more threatening, than someone imitating Arnold (with a southern accent)..LOL Did you check to see if that slogan was patented? But again, I digress!
If you want to be a local yocal, then so so…Otherwise, go to Lafayette and do some REAL political work…Take on someone that has a GPA of 3.2 or better, rather than bore the citizens of Plaquemine with your childish tantrums about taking on the world…
There is NOTHING worse than WILLFUL IGNORANCE and NOTHING more dangerous than BLIND STUPIDITY…
CONGRATULATIONS, you have just made the sh*t list for the U.S. Because your actions and intelligence (or lack thereof) are clearly what has MANY Americans fearing…Another IDIOT in a position odf RESPONSIBILITY! Hey it worked for Buah, right?
November 24th, 2005 at 7:14 amOops…I meant Bush!
Just saying that name makes my skin crawl…
November 24th, 2005 at 7:17 amBushco is pro-free-speech, but only under one condition: “If you don’t support the prez, yo’goin’ to jail.”
November 24th, 2005 at 8:33 amWe Are Being Set Up: The Manchurian Nation:
November 24th, 2005 at 8:41 amhttp://guvwurld.blogspot.com/2005/10/we-are-being-set-up-manchurian-nation.html
The FBI’s Secret Scrutiny:
November 24th, 2005 at 8:42 amhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/05/AR2005110501366_pf.html
In Hunt for Terrorists, Bureau Examines Records of Ordinary Americans
Next, he’ll be arresting all bloggers who are agaisnt him on the internet.
This guy is guilty of abusing his powers and authority more then any president in the history of the United States.
November 24th, 2005 at 9:23 amWhack-A-TROLL EH!
November 24th, 2005 at 9:29 amThis report, which was prepared at the request of Rep. Henry A. Waxman, is a comprehensive examination of the statements made by the five Administration
officials most responsible for providing public information and shaping public opinion on Iraq: George Bush, Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, State Colin Powell, and
Condoleezza Rice. It finds that the five officials made misleading statements about the threat posed by Iraq in 125 public appearances. The report and an accompanying database identify 237 specific misleading statements by the five officials. The entire database is accessible to members of Congress and the public at http://www.reform.house.gov/min.
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VI. CONCLUSION
Because of the gravity of the subject and the President’s unique access to classified information, members of Congress and the public expect the President and his senior officials to take special care to be balanced and accurate in describing national security threats. It does not appear, however, that President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Secretary Rumsfeld, Secretary Powell, and National Security Advisor Rice met this standard in the case of Iraq. To the contrary, these five officials repeatedly made misleading statements about the
threat posed by Iraq. In 125 separate appearances, they made 11 misleading statements about the urgency of Iraq’s threat, 81 misleading statements about Iraq’s nuclear activities, 84 misleading statements about Iraq’s chemical and
biological capabilities, and 61 misleading statements about Iraq’s relationship with al Qaeda.
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Today, Humans are serving Turkey while Neo-Conns and Trolls Eat Crow.
Either Way -Happy Bird Day! -Aj
The real problem here is not with Bush and his brushy ranch. No parking within 7 miles? How about if you have a blowout or flat? Or have to take a pee?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the real story here is about the sorryassed hillbilly commissioners of McLennan County, Texas who passed the “law”. I mean, wouldn’t it be great if the citizens of this country who believe in the the right of peaceful assembly and free speech decided to boycott the area entirely?
November 24th, 2005 at 9:41 amapparently Crawford is supporting Bush’s “no dissent allowed” policy…
November 24th, 2005 at 9:48 amNo suprise here. This Bushco. made up the game, set the rules and change them to suit themselves daily. It’s all lies, cover up, behind closed doors, pay off’s, smears and total fear tactics for every one else. The worst administration in the history of our country. Twenty five years from now, or sooner, there will be massive write up’s and book’s out on how america backed a drunk, druggie and other’s guilty of numerious crimes against the world to the highest office. Allowed it to happen and permitted the stealing of the votes and all resourses, dismantled the constitution, bill of rights, distroyed the enviroment and sold it off to oil profiteers and big business. Killed hundreds of thousands in Iraq and around the world for oil and power and the public allowed it to happen with barely a wimper….Give thank’s for what’s left, and get off your butt’s and let’s take it all back before it’s to late….Blessings
November 24th, 2005 at 10:54 amThe message has more power than the man. It is Hitler all over again for sure.
November 24th, 2005 at 11:16 amHappy Thanksgiving everyone. I’m out.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/torture/
November 24th, 2005 at 11:34 amGod these NeoCOns are stupid. Don’t they get it? If you create a law that is cause for the protestors to be arrested, YOU DRAW ATTENTION TO THEM. How freaking stupid are these people. Not to mention that it is a big ugly blotch to have Americans arrested on Thanksgiving for Protesting.
Hey idiots in Crawford, Protesting is LEGAL!
November 24th, 2005 at 12:01 pm“As Vice President Cheney reminded us this week “disagreement, argument, and debate are the essence of democracy.†Just don’t let your disagreement get too close to the ranch.”
I see the losers are pissed because the town passed a new law protecting its residence. Too bad. I’m glad old George gets to have his dinner in peace. I hope they are LIBERALLY applying the nightstick and stun gun to those that resist. Those people should be at home having turkey anyway.
Happy Thanksgiving to the Think Communist losers. And believe me when I say, I’m only saying that because I know you hate Thanksgiving.
November 24th, 2005 at 1:51 pmi love you guys, hug me. oh man im so ripped…
November 24th, 2005 at 2:01 pmHappy Thanksgiving to the Think Communist losers. And believe me when I say, I’m only saying that because I know you hate Thanksgiving.
Comment by I-RIgHT-I — November 24, 2005 @ 1:51 pm
Hello, Nazi! You celebrate Thanksgiving? You know that the history includes *gasp* MINORITIES?!?!?
I’ll bet your buddies over at RedState or any other Convict-servitude site have already disavowed your uber-racist diatribes. I hear Argentina harbors Nazis…
Now I know why you won’t join the military, IRI- you’re scared to death of having to share a foxhole with a black, a hispanic, or a jew…or even a muslim. Yes, there are many muslims serving in our military that are far braver than you. What a sad little man you are. Fly away, little nazi fairy…..
November 24th, 2005 at 2:17 pmI-RIGHT-I,
If you think there is one person here that respects you, is scared of you, gives a crap about your opinion, wants to hear what you have to say, wants you to post on these threads or generally gives a iota about you, you would be 100% incorrect. You were shown to be a wuss last night. You are a waste of human life. Have a great Thanksgiving. I hope you choke on your dinner.
November 24th, 2005 at 2:53 pmI certainly wish * no peace, but I don’t think ANYBODY would let people camp around their home like that without calling in the law.
November 24th, 2005 at 3:01 pm#53
Agent 99
The protestors are nowhere near George Bush’s house. They are along a rural road.
November 24th, 2005 at 3:11 pmA Phone Call To The Federal Reserve Bank in San Francisco
persoonlijk | Other | 24 November 2005 | 17:44:52
The following is a conversation with Mr. Ron Supinski of the Public Information Department of the San Francisco Federal Reserve Bank. This is an account of that conversation.
CALLER – Mr. Supinski, does my country own the Federal Reserve System?
MR. SUPINSKI – We are an agency of the government.
CALLER – That’s not my question. Is it owned by my country?
MR. SUPINSKI – It is an agency of the government created by congress.
CALLER – Is the Federal Reserve a Corporation?
MR. SUPINSKI – Yes
CALLER – Does my government own any of the stock in the Federal Reserve?
MR. SUPINSKI – No, it is owned by the member banks.
CALLER – Are the member banks private corporations?
MR. SUPINSKI – Yes
CALLER – Are Federal Reserve Notes backed by anything?
MR. SUPINSKI-Yes, by the assets of the Federal Reserve but, primarily by the power of congress to lay tax on the people.
CALLER – Did you say, by the power to collect taxes is what backs Federal Reserve Notes?
MR. SUPINSKI – Yes
CALLER – What are the total assets of the Federal Reserve?
MR. SUPINSKI – The San Francisco Bank has $36 Billion in assets.
CALLER – What are these assets composed of?
MR. SUPINSKI – Gold, the Federal Reserve Bank itself and government securities.
CALLER – What value does the Federal Reserve Bank carry gold per oz. on their books?
MR. SUPINSKI – I don’t have that information but the San Francisco Bank has $1.6 billion in gold.
CALLER – Are you saying the Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco has $1.6 billion in gold, the bank itself and the balance of the assets is government securities?
MR. SUPINSKI – Yes.
CALLER – Where does the Federal Reserve get Federal Reserve Notes from?
MR. SUPINSKI – They are authorized by the Treasury.
CALLER – How much does the Federal Reserve pay for a $10 Federal Reserve Note?
MR. SUPINSKI – Fifty to seventy cents.
CALLER – How much do they pay for a $100.00 Federal Reserve Note?
MR. SUPINSKI – The same fifty to seventy cents.
CALLER – To pay only fifty cents for a $100.00 is a tremendous gain, isn’t it?
MR. SUPINSKI – Yes
CALLER – According to the US Treasury, the Federal Reserve pays $20.60 per 1,000 denomination or a little over two cents for a $100.00 bill, is that correct?
MR. SUPINSKI – That is probably close.
CALLER – Doesn’t the Federal Reserve use the Federal Reserve Notes that cost about two cents each to purchase US Bonds from the government?
MR. SUPINSKI – Yes, but there is more to it than that.
CALLER – Basically, that is what happens?
MR. SUPINSKI – Yes, basically you are correct.
CALLER – How many Federal Reserve Notes are in circulation?
MR. SUPINSKI – $263 billion and we can only account for a small percentage.
CALLER – Where did they go?
MR. SUPINSKI – Peoples mattress, buried in their back yards and illegal drug money.
CALLER – Since the debt is payable in Federal Reserve Notes, how can the $4 trillion national debt be paid-off with the total Federal Reserve Notes in circulation?
MR. SUPINSKI – I don’t know.
CALLER – If the Federal Government would collect every Federal Reserve Note in circulation would it be mathematically possible to pay the $4 trillion national debt?
MR. SUPINSKI – No
CALLER – Am I correct when I say, $1 deposited in a member bank $8 can be lent out through Fractional Reserve Policy?
MR. SUPINSKI – About $7.
CALLER – Correct me if I am wrong but, $7 of additional Federal Reserve Notes were never put in circulation. But, for lack of better words were “created out of thin air ” in the form of credits and the two cents per denomination were not paid either. In other words, the Federal Reserve Notes were not physically printed but, in reality were created by a journal entry and lent at interest. Is that correct?
MR. SUPINSKI – Yes
CALLER – Is that the reason there are only $263 billion Federal Reserve Notes in circulation?
MR. SUPINSKI – That is part of the reason.
CALLER – Am I mistaking that when the Federal Reserve Act was passed (on Christmas Eve) in 1913, it transferred the power to coin and issue our nation’s money and to regulate the value thereof from Congress to a Private corporation. And my country now borrows what should be our own money from the Federal Reserve (a private corporation) plus interest. Is that correct and the debt can never be paid off under the current money system of country?
MR. SUPINSKI – Basically, yes.
CALLER – I smell a rat, do you?
MR. SUPINSKI – I am sorry, I can’t answer that, I work here.
CALLER – Has the Federal Reserve ever been independently audited?
MR. SUPINSKI – We are audited.
CALLER – Why is there a current House Resolution 1486 calling for a complete audit of the Federal Reserve by the GAO and why is the Federal Reserve resisting?
MR. SUPINSKI – I don’t know.
CALLER – Does the Federal Reserve regulate the value of Federal Reserve Notes and interest rates?
MR. SUPINSKI – Yes
CALLER – Explain how the Federal Reserve System can be Constitutional if, only the Congress of the US, which comprises of the Senate and the House of representatives has the power to coin and issue our money supply and regulate the value thereof? [Article 1 Section 1 and Section 8] Nowhere, in the Constitution does it give Congress the power or authority to transfer any powers granted under the Constitution to a private corporation or, does it?
MR. SUPINSKI – I am not an expert on constitutional law. I can refer you to our legal department.
CALLER – I can tell you I have read the Constitution. It does NOT provide that any power granted can be transferred to a private corporation. Doesn’t it specifically state, all other powers not granted are reserved to the States and to the citizens? Does that mean to a private corporation?
MR. SUPINSKI – I don’t think so, but we were created by Congress.
CALLER – Would you agree it is our country and it should be our money as provided by our Constitution?
MR. SUPINSKI – I understand what you are saying.
CALLER – Why should we borrow our own money from a private consortium of bankers? Isn’t this why we had a revolution, created a separate sovereign nation and a Bill of Rights?
MR. SUPINSKI – (Declined to answer).
CALLER – Has the Federal Reserve ever been declared constitutional by the Supreme Court?
MR. SUPINSKI – I believe there has been court cases on the matter.
/www.freedomfinancialconsultants.com/declaration.htm
CALLER – Have there been Supreme Court Cases?
MR. SUPINSKI – I think so, but I am not sure.
CALLER – Didn’t the Supreme Court declare unanimously in A.L.A. Schechter Poultry Corp. vs. US and Carter vs. Carter Coal Co. the corporative-state arrangement an unconstitutional delegation of legislative power? ["The power conferred is the power to regulate. This is legislative delegation in its most obnoxious form; for it is not even delegation to an official or an official body, presumptively disinterested, but to private persons." Carter vs. Carter Coal Co...]
MR. SUPINSKI – I don’t know, I can refer you to our legal department.
CALLER – Isn’t the current money system a house of cards that must fall because, the debt can mathematically never be paid-off?
MR. SUPINSKI – It appears that way. I can tell you have been looking into this matter and are very knowledgeable. However, we do have a solution.
CALLER – What is the solution?
MR. SUPINSKI – The Debit Card.
CALLER – Do you mean under the EFT Act (Electronic Funds Transfer)? Isn’t that very frightening, when one considers the capabilities of computers? It would provide the government and all it’s agencies, including the Federal Reserve such information as: You went to the gas station @ 2:30 and bought $20.00 of unleaded gas @ $3.41 per gallon and then you went to the grocery store @ 2:58 and bought bread, lunch meat and milk for $12.32 and then went to the drug store @ 3:30 and bought cold medicine for $5.62. In other words, they would know where we go, when we went, how much we paid, how much the merchant paid and how much profit he made. Under the EFT they will literally know everything about us. Isn’t that kind of scary?
MR. SUPINSKI – Yes, it makes you wonder.
CALLER – I smell a GIANT RAT that has overthrown my constitution. Aren’t we paying tribute in the form of income taxes to a consortium of private bankers?
MR. SUPINSKI – I can’t call it tribute, it is interest.
CALLER – Haven’t all elected officials taken an oath of office to preserve and defend the Constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic? Isn’t the Federal Reserve a domestic enemy?
MR. SUPINSKI – I can’t say that.
CALLER – Our elected officials and members of the Federal Reserve are guilty of aiding and abetting the overthrowing of my Constitution and that is treason. Isn’t the punishment of treason death?
MR. SUPINSKI – I believe so.
CALLER – Thank you for your time and information and if I may say so, I think you should take the necessary steps to protect you and your family and withdraw your money from the banks before the collapse, I am.
MR. SUPINSKI – It doesn’t look good.
CALLER – May God have mercy on the souls who are behind this unconstitutional and criminal act called the Federal Reserve. When the ALMIGHTY MASS awakens to this giant hoax, they will not take it with a grain of salt. It has been a pleasure talking to you and I thank you for your time. I hope you will take my advice before it does collapse.
MR. SUPINSKI – Unfortunately, it does not look good.
CALLER – Have a good day and thanks for your time.
MR. SUPINSKI – Thanks for calling.
From Dan Benham d.benham@worldnet.att.net
November 24th, 2005 at 3:17 pmInteresting phonecall.
November 24th, 2005 at 3:49 pmPost number 6 by profmarcus says volumes on Mr Busch, and his entire administration. Good post profmarcus.
Great leaders in our country, like Mr. Lincoln for example, learned to cultivate their enemies comradeship, even though they disagree on opinions.
If Mr Busch had any inkling of leadership and politcal saavy, instead of looking like some type of evil overlord, arresting peaceful protestors on Thanksgiving day, he might have tried “killing them with kindness”.
Imagine the pundits tomorrow, talking about how clever he was, sending them all a nice turkey dinner, maybe evening going over for an hour and lettin them bend his ear.
What would Cindy Sheehan do if Mr. Busch walked up to her with a piece of pumpkin pie and said, lets talk?
She would probably loose a lot of her fire, and Busch would come off in the public eye as being magnanimous while Cindy may have not faired so well.
But alas, our boy George, true to his fashion, looks more like Simon Legree as he peers through the curtains while peaceful, patriotic Americans are hauled off to Jail on Thanksgiving day.
With obtuse decisions like this, what do the Democrats need a spin machine for?
Happy T-Day Dubya, oh and better eat up quick, cause were clearing the table soon…..
November 24th, 2005 at 4:06 pmChris Williams, I just went and posted this to your site, after reading about a dozen of your posts there. I am reposting it here for your convenience, and for all to see.
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Chris your not a closet sissyman, your just another little chickenshit punk, with a big fat mouth.
You and all the chickenshit cowards who are so afraid of another terrorist attack that they would sell the soul of our country to keep it safe, and commit all manner of attrocities in the name of protecting your fat, lazy precious self righteous fannies.
We got smacked by Bin Laden, and you were too chickenshit to go into Casmire, into that dense, dark jungle where Alqeada flourishes and where two countrys with “real” armies, and “real nukes” tell you you can’t go.
You were too chickenshit to go there, and do the mans job, so you picked out the littlest, most defensless little Arab country, and kicked the shit out of it.
Then you said, look everyone, what big mighty brave heroes we are. We beat the crap of a bunch of poor battered bastards wearing rags and sporting Vietnam era weapons, with our laser guided smart bombs, our naval and air support, our M1 Abrams that can kill from 7 miles out travelling at 60Mph,,,,man we kicked their assess…..
Yea, your a real man alright…..that is of course if a real man is nothing more than a chickenshit bully and a coward.
Posted on Blogger.com, Thursday, November 24, 2005
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Have a nice T-Day, you putz.
November 24th, 2005 at 4:25 pmI-RIGHT-I,
If you think there is one person here that respects you, is scared of you, gives a crap about your opinion, wants to hear what you have to say, wants you to post on these threads or generally gives a iota about you?
Comment by spudge packer
No. What’s your point?
November 24th, 2005 at 6:53 pmNow, as Bush hunkers down in Crawford for an extended Thanksgiving vacation, protestors can be hauled off by the police:
HAhahahahaaa. Good deal! Take them to the pokey and beat the stuffing out of them. No sense of taking any chances as everybody knows how violent these “peace nuts” can be.
November 24th, 2005 at 6:56 pmkjlovell –
In your comment number 29, you said
### I know that as a child he tortured animals, and his parents hated this behavior. He routinely stuck firecrackers up cat’s anuses and set them off. He stuck firecrackers in frogs mouths and did the same. He even boiled a dog to death to watch it die. ###
I trust you have some evidence of these assertations?
I hate Dubya as much as the next guy, but I find it hard to believe even he would be capable of this kind of sick, twisted cruelty as a child. And what parent would tolerate such behavior. I really hope you are wrong.
What documentation do you have to support these claims?
November 24th, 2005 at 6:58 pmI-RIgHT-I said;
“HAhahahahaaa. Good deal! Take them to the pokey and beat the stuffing out of them”
I am wondering if kjlovell got Dubya mixed up with you I-RIgHT-I? Y
ou sure people know you are out walking around in public?
Can we call someone for you?
November 24th, 2005 at 7:02 pmI-Wrong-1 is posting from the mental hospital WORFEUS.
November 24th, 2005 at 7:46 pmGreat Post Dan.
I right I, MaD, Ned, Wwallace.
You guys have been reduced to sad racistic remarks and third grade rebuttals. In Weeks, perhaps months there has been no Factual Rebuttals from any of you.
Have the Alligator Mouths outran the hummingbird asses?
LOL, Bill O’liely and his big bucks FAUX Nitwitwork couldnt handle T.P.
Now some Goofy Unelected Cajun Limpdough wannabe named Chris Williams and Mighty Windbags are gonna silence the posters here?
LMAO.. –Aj
Now, must fix myself another Drink, turn on Sparkle box, Laugh, loudly, as the Busch / Chainme ratings plummet towards earth, and below.
November 24th, 2005 at 7:50 pmI Hope Bush Chokes and DIES on his TUrkey!
November 24th, 2005 at 8:17 pmcome on now freedom is not free….
you have some great posts, but thats not what were about.
I for one wish Mr. Busch the best this holiday season.
I wish him the best trial, the best impeachment, and the best public removal from office the world has ever seen.
November 24th, 2005 at 8:50 pm66. Maybe we coold stack a pile of naked bushies on a cold floor and take some shots standing next to ‘um smokin’ sum’ marlburos!
November 24th, 2005 at 11:14 pmCongress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
- 1st Ammendment of the Constitution of the United States
To bad the police in Crawdad Texass, are exempt from the laws that bind our very congress itself.
November 24th, 2005 at 11:18 pmI,m Sure Cindy Sheeham, and other relatives of Dead Soldiers agree with me, though.
November 24th, 2005 at 11:24 pmBush and all Republicans Can definitely THANK their Lucky Stars , that My Daughter made it home Alive.
November 24th, 2005 at 11:27 pmEver see the Show from Steven Segull”A Fathers Rage has no Limits”?
Wanna Talk about Suicide Bombers Being Ugly?
no. I won,t go there.
But I can feel the Relatives Pain.
November 24th, 2005 at 11:28 pmStupid ass OIL!
Dont forget, Black Friday.
November 25th, 2005 at 12:32 amThe news media is allready trying to hype up cusomers to spend their money.
Dont Buy on Friday.
check out cnn, then take the vote. but voteâ€NO WAYâ€
that,ll scare the living daylights out of them,(hehe)!
http://www.cnn.com/US
Please, Get the Word out(cut&paste),
Ignore #65, 70.
November 25th, 2005 at 12:34 amJust venting out some anger trapped inside.
QUICKVOTE
November 25th, 2005 at 12:58 amDo you plan to go shopping Friday?
Absolutely
No way
Maybe one store
Only on the Internet
or View Results
Hippies never understand that the freedom of speech doesn’t mean the freedom to trespass. You can say whatever the hell you want, but you can’t do it wherever the hell you want.
Reminds me of the WTO riots in Seattle in the 1990s. Morons.
November 25th, 2005 at 1:15 amDon,t Shop! Put the Pressure On!
November 25th, 2005 at 2:40 amThe countdown to Black Friday
Retailers are nervous, the discounts will be deep. But will consumers shop till they drop?
November 24, 2005: 9:01 AM EST
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) – Consumers are clearly in the driver’s seat as nervous retailers get set to kick off the “official” start of the holiday shopping season on Friday.
Worries about high gas prices, home heating bills and rising interest rates have made many merchants nervous that shoppers will be tight-fisted with their holiday spending this year.
Seixon,
November 25th, 2005 at 2:45 amFreedom is not Free!
Seixon
I agree with you that protestors need to respect property rights, and I don’t think Cindy and her gang should disturb the neighbors or disrupt the community.
And they may have done that, so I am not “outraged” that they clamped down on the protests near the ranch. But I do think it was a stupid move.
Everyone talks about how smart Karl Rove is supposed to be, how come he could not figure out, that a picture of the President taken Cindy and her gang of zealots a thanksgiving day turkey dinner and a some of Laura’s homemade pumpkin pie?
What better way to difuse this situation and take the punch out of her protests? If Rove is so smart, how come he can’t see that a humble looking, magnanimous Bush extending the olive branch to the mother of a fallen soldier is the best way to heal Bushes failing ratings?
Of course, I shouldn’t give them any ideas. It just irks me that they talk of Rove as if he’s some sort of political genius.
If he’s so smart, why does he think a picture of Cindy and the gang being hauled off to jail on Thanksgiving, is better than a picture of the President extending a chrisitan like gesture on this the most American of holidays?
No it seems like they are the morons Seixon.
And its also pretty moronic to compare a few camping moms to the vermin that burned buildings in Seattle.
She gave her kid, let her have her say.
WORFEUS
November 25th, 2005 at 3:43 am#61, I have researched his life in depth, these are personal interviews with friends of the family. You can also find his behavior by going into google and searching by his name and cruelty.
There have been two books that I know of that have this in them as well, I will get back to you on it.
He is a twisted little man-chimp that is very dangerous with even a little power.
November 25th, 2005 at 7:15 amSextongs:
I usually ignore your REPUGnican idiot rantings, but I have to call you an idiot once again (what is this like the zillionth time you have heard someone call you an idiot in your life?)….
Public lands mean just that, public lands. It means that ANYONE, even someone of your limited thoughts can use them lawfully.
When a county, town or any other form of government make laws that turn public lands into private lands it is unconstitutional. By that standard, they could change the law and make it unlawful for an idiot like yourself to own property, and you would be forced from your home and not paid for it…..hey not a bad idea after all but I digress.
I know you are incapable of seeing anyone elses perspective but your own, but try.
Your city could make it illegal for you to go to the library to research facts. (OK
November 25th, 2005 at 7:26 ampart of post that was missed in the above:
(OK, not a good example for you)…..
What if a government entity made it illegal for you to use any of the streets or land within 7 miles of all liqour stores, gun shops? It is still legal for you to be in the stores, but only if you have a transporter and you never set foot on ground outside these store.
How sad would your little life be then? No joy at all, and no booze or guns. I bet you would hate that.
November 25th, 2005 at 7:31 amhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8085945499556832271&q=cia
CIA!!!!
November 25th, 2005 at 7:59 amA good cop would feel terrible about having to enforce such cowardly bullying behavior.
Everyone knows that bullies are cowards except for this administration because it cannot see itself for what it truly is. It has no insight, it has no depth, it has no intelligence, and it is like a model T covered with armor that should have gone to the guys and gals in Iraq.
No phrase describes this administration better than a group of wusses who have to call their daddy – law enforcement – that they behave like punks toward when nobody is looking. I am so ashamed of these cowards it brings tears to my eyes.
This is not America. It is a group of hoodlum dunces ruining our nation for their own petty benefit. If Barbara wasn’t such a witch she would set these drunks down and give them a good talking to, but that wouldn’t do any good either because they are such jerks.
November 25th, 2005 at 8:07 amhttp://www.masteroni.com/show.php?itemId=88098232
Bush call!!!!! Turn on sound!!! Have fun!!!
November 25th, 2005 at 8:08 amWilliam Kristol belongs in jail for using his publishing empire to propagandize a war for profit. His profit. There are so many criminal greedy leaders in our country it is a shame. Where did these jerks come from Pluto or are they just products of materialism?
Let’s see, William Kristol, the editors of the New York Times, The Washington Post and the head of FOX would complete a jail house Bridge quartet that this country so badly needs to see occur.
The arrogance of those punks is not patriotism it is the result of unbridled greed.
November 25th, 2005 at 8:18 am#39, why do you thing Bush support broadband access for all? Because they have devises to signal chase and track internet activity by individuals. So crack down on bloggers is no joke in the future.
#85, Bill Kristol and PNAC deserve more than prison. Think tank boy rolled the dice with his failed ideology and took the country to thr brink of hell. He is a traitor to democracy and an enemy of America. I say if its prison, then its Gitmo.
November 25th, 2005 at 8:57 amI-RIgHT-I said;
“HAhahahahaaa. Good deal! Take them to the pokey and beat the stuffing out of themâ€
I am wondering if kjlovell got Dubya mixed up with you I-RIgHT-I? Y
ou sure people know you are out walking around in public?
Can we call someone for you?
Comment by WORFEUS
No, probably not. Lovell is always that way. But hey, get real, those people need to be beaten. We should have beat their asses when they pulled this shit during the Vietnam war and we didn’t. Now lookit what they are up to. This isn’t exercisising their first amendment rights, this is treason and sedition pure and simple just like it was in the ’60’s. An ass whoop’n would be nothing compared to what they deserve. The Treason and Sedition Act of 1919 calls for twenty years in Ft. Leavenworth. Now were talk’n.
November 25th, 2005 at 9:34 amWrong, Sexion. This is a Special Widdle Waw that passed with the sole intention of keeping Those Big Bad Hippies away from The Prez’s Pig Farm (er, “ranch.”).
For one thing, we are not really speaking about Freedom of Speech here; rather, we are speaking about Freedom of Assembly. If you read your Constitution, you would know that they are two related yet distinctly separate concepts.
Here’s an idea: let’s set up similar laws surrounding abortion clinics. No Judgemental JesusFreaks within seven miles around each clinic. It sounds good to me; no women getting pelted with rocks and bricks as they exercise a right that has been guaranteed to them since 1973.
November 25th, 2005 at 9:50 amAny public property should be available for peaceful protesters. I believe in what Cindy Sheehan is doing and would join her if I was able. This war is a crock of shite, and Americans know it.
November 25th, 2005 at 9:51 amAN EXPLANATION OF THE FACTIONS
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WHAT DO I MEAN WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE TWO FACTIONS?
Posted By: Rayelan
Date: Tuesday, 23 December 2003, 4:43 p.m.
WHAT ARE THE FACTIONS?
WHERE DID THEY COME FROM?
What is the Main difference Between Them?
By Rayelan Allan
Rumor Mill News was started to reveal some of the hidden truths about the governments of the world. One of the hidden truths that the founders of Rumor Mill News revealed to a large audience in 1992 was that the Federal Reserve Banking System in the United States is NOT owned by the United States government. It is owned by international bankers who have their headquarters in the “City of London”, which is a separate part of London.
The owners of the Federal Reserve, through the United Nations, Non Governmental Organizations, think tanks, non-profits, the World Bank, the IMF and other means, have used the money they stole from the American people to infiltrate and “buy” the wealth of other countries.
The “owners” of the Federal Reserve are made up of 300 interconnected families. These families are firmly planted in ALL countries of the world. These families have a plan for a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT which will be UNDER their control. All nations and people will LOSE their sovereignty.
The common phrase for these people and their plan is: THE NEW WORLD ORDER.
Most American patriots and other nationalists around the world KNOW about the threat to their sovereignty from the New World Order. What they don’t know is that there has been another force, hiding in the shadows. A force that has been putting road blocks in the path of the New World Order since the end of World War Two.
The men and women who make up this hidden force call themselves Faction Two. They label themselves this way because THEY came second. The bankers of the New World Order set about destroying the sovereignty of nations. The men and women of Faction Two formed as a result of losing their nations.
In the United States, the members of Faction Two call themselves “The Cowboys”.
To fully explain the Factions, I would have to write a book, In this article I will TRY to be Brief:
Faction One is the New World Order, made up of the International bankers, the 300 un-named families who also own our Federal Reserve Banking System. These families are descended ideologically AND biologically from the Rothschild funded Illuminati. Faction One also created the Corporations.
Corporations were created by the King of England who was owned and controlled by the Rothschilds.
Faction Two is descended from the King of Bavaria, the Knights Templars and the German Abwher. Faction Two was created by men whose countries had been destroyed by the New World Order.
In 1776, the King of Bavaria blew the whistle on the planned take-over of the monarchies of Europe by the Illuminati/Rothschilds. As a a result, the NWO, which expected to go “online” in 1776, had to retreat to the shadows and build up their strength for their “next planned world-takeover”.
Other articles, which are linked in this article, give more background. This is just a thumbnail sketch.
The main difference between the two factions is
Slavery versus Freedom.
Over the years, I have posted many different articles in which I talked about the two Factions who appear to be vying for control of the world. Faction 1, the NWO promises us a future that is a slave state. Faction 2, the one that my ex-husband Gunther Russbacher talked about, promises us a world that is similar to the United States in the 50s…. not perfect… but definitely NOT a Slave-State!
Before RMN appeared on the web, the concept of “Factions” did not exist. The only place it had been mentioned, besides the print edition of RMNews, was in Rodney Stich’s “Defrauding America”, a book for which Gunther Russbacher was the main source…. not the ONLY government source… but the main one!
I first started posting information on the web about the Two Factions in 1999. If you have been with RMN since that time, then of course you know what the Factions are, so you can skip this article.
However, we have many new readers AND new RMNews Agents who have never read these articles. Here at RMN we encourage independent thought and as a result we also have a few RMN Agents who have their own opinions of what the TWO factions are.
I don’t know if these Agents have never taken the time to read what Gunther Russbacher and I have written about the factions, or if they simply don’t believe that ONE of these two Factions… FACTION TWO… is on OUR side!!
Here is the first article I ever wrote about the Factions:
FACTION TWO — THE ABWEHR — KNIGHTS TEMPLARS
Posted By: Rayelan -
Date: Sunday, 10 September 2000, 5:19 p.m. – An Explanation Faction Two
To really understand where my ex-husband is coming from, when he told me about Faction Two, you need to know a little about him, who he was, where he came from and what he knew.
The articles that are contained in the webpage, Who Founded RMNews are a good place to start.
WHO FOUNDED RUMOR MILL NEWS?
Two of the most important articles from this page are two that Gunther wrote while he was in prison. They expose the evil behind the creation of the Federal Reserve Banking System. Links to those articles are included here, along with some wisdom from Thomas Jefferson.
“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” — Thomas Jefferson
AN EXPOSE OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANKING SYSTEM
By Gunther K. Russbacher
And the THINK TANKS it SPAWNED!
The Art of Global Politics By Gunther K. Russbacher
WHO OWNS THE FED?
An inter-related family of people, all of whose family names are easily recognizable in today’s business and political worlds.
There are other articles that Gunther wrote about his childhood in Austria that will help you understand where he came from and why he believes the way he does. Two of the best are:
Thus Spake The Raven . . . By Gunther K. Russbacher… aka “The Raven”
and
AND THE LION CRIED
There are many other articles in which I give a brief update of the factions. I have included some of them. To really explain what the factions are, I need the time to write a book on them. When RMN is making enough money to support itself and my, which means I can quit my job, I promise I will write this book!
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EgyptAir Flight 990
Plus… RECENT ACTIVITIES (from the late 60s) & PARTIAL HISTORY OF FACTION 2 The Opposition to the New World Order
I HAVE STATED MANY TIMES: I THINK THE BUSHES ARE F-2
Posted By: Rayelan Date: Thursday, 10 July 2003, 9:20 p.m.
I didn’t always used to think this!!
LONG OVERDUE DEFINITION AND EXPLANATION OF FACTION TWO
Posted By: Rayelan Date: Sunday, 13 April 2003, 7:22 p.m.
KHOSHOGGI, FACTION TWO, IRAN CONTRA, THE TEMPLARS
Posted By: Rayelan
When RMNews gets too close to the truth… another psyops is launched to distract us… I think that many old time readers are getting pretty good at recognizing distractions then they start appearing on the forum.
I think the current distraction was created from keeping us from connecting the dots from the San Francisco fire and black out… to the earthquake to the recent raising of the terror alerts.
Here is an article I posted during one of the many psyops that has been launched against RMN
RMNEWS HAS BEEN THE TARGET OF ANOTHER GOVT PSYOPS
Posted By: RMNewsUpdates – Date: Monday, 11 February 2002, 7:38 a.m.
COLD WAR TWO – RMNEWS FROM 1999
Posted By: Rayelan – Date: Friday, 14 December 2001, 3:02 a.m.
NEW READERS HAVE NO IDEA WHO CREATED RUMOR MILL!
Posted By: BettyJean – Date: Saturday, 2 December 2000, 8:21 a.m.
WACO, VINCE FOSTER, THE SECRET WAR — BUSH VS NWO?
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November 25th, 2005 at 9:55 amWrong, Sexion. This is a Special Widdle Waw that passed with the sole intention of keeping Those Big Bad Hippies away from The Prez’s Pig Farm (er, “ranch.â€).
Comment by Daughter of Viet Vet —
It was a law passed by the City of Crawford. Do you have a problem with people governing themselves?
For one thing, we are not really speaking about Freedom of Speech here; rather, we are speaking about Freedom of Assembly. If you read your Constitution, you would know that they are two related yet distinctly separate concepts.
Comment by Daughter of Viet Vet —
Oh really. I thought we were taling about the right of the citizens of a town to keep outside losers from disturbing the peace?
Here’s an idea: let’s set up similar laws surrounding abortion clinics. No Judgemental JesusFreaks within seven miles around each clinic.
They did that already.
It sounds good to me; no women getting pelted with rocks and bricks as they exercise a right that has been guaranteed to them since 1973.
Heaven forbid American citizens assemble to protest the “right” of you liberal skanks from killing your own children.
Comment by Daughter of Viet Vet —
November 25th, 2005 at 10:00 amHeaven forbid American citizens assemble to protest the “right†of you liberal skanks from killing your own children.
Sending your Sons and Daughters off to War is Worse that an Abortion Clinic.
November 25th, 2005 at 10:26 amI don,t Believe in either!
Who Ever Gave You the inaliable rights
November 25th, 2005 at 10:28 amto Murder and Kill?
There are Two Commandments in the Bible that , when you read them, they have a conflict of differences.
November 25th, 2005 at 10:32 am#1 Thou shalt Not Steal
#2 Thou Shalt not Kill.
Back in the Western Days, If a Person Stole a Horse, Punishment was Hang by the Neck untill Death.
Do Two Wrongs Make a Right?
Well,lets see.
Wrong + Wrong = ?
or
Right+ right= ?
or
wrong +right=?
or right+wrong=?
EXODUS CHAPTER 22
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November 25th, 2005 at 10:36 am1 ¶ If a man shall steal an ox, or a sheep, and kill it, or sell it; he shall restore five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep.
2 If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him.
3 If the sun be risen upon him, there shall be blood shed for him; for he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.
4 If the theft be certainly found in his hand alive, whether it be ox, or ass, or sheep; he shall restore double.
5 If a man shall cause a field or vineyard to be eaten, and shall put in his beast, and shall feed in another man’s field; of the best of his own field, and of the best of his own vineyard, shall he make restitution.
6 If fire break out, and catch in thorns, so that the stacks of corn, or the standing corn, or the field, be consumed therewith; he that kindled the fire shall surely make restitution.
7 ¶ If a man shall deliver unto his neighbour money or stuff to keep, and it be stolen out of the man’s house; if the thief be found, let him pay double.
8 If the thief be not found, then the master of the house shall be brought unto the judges, to see whether he have put his hand unto his neighbour’s goods.
Now, Lets Talk about”Tresspassing”.
November 25th, 2005 at 10:37 am9 For all manner of trespass, whether it be for ox, for ass, for sheep, for raiment, or for any manner of lost thing, which another challengeth to be his, the cause of both parties shall come before the judges; and whom the judges shall condemn, he shall pay double unto his neighbour.
10 If a man deliver unto his neighbour an ass, or an ox, or a sheep, or any beast, to keep; and it die, or be hurt, or driven away, no man seeing it:
11 Then shall an oath of the LORD be between them both, that he hath not put his hand unto his neighbour’s goods; and the owner of it shall accept thereof, and he shall not make it good.
12 And if it be stolen from him, he shall make restitution unto the owner thereof.
13 If it be torn in pieces, then let him bring it for witness, and he shall not make good that which was torn.
14 And if a man borrow ought of his neighbour, and it be hurt, or die, the owner thereof being not with it, he shall surely make it good.
15 But if the owner thereof be with it, he shall not make it good: if it be an hired thing, it came for his hire.
16 ¶ And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife.
17 If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.
18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
19 Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death.
20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.
21 Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.
22 Ye shall not afflict any widow, or fatherless child.
23 If thou afflict them in any wise, and they cry at all unto me, I will surely hear their cry;
24 And my wrath shall wax hot, and I will kill you with the sword; and your wives shall be widows, and your children fatherless.
25 ¶ If thou lend money to any of my people that is poor by thee, thou shalt not be to him as an usurer, neither shalt thou lay upon him usury.
26 If thou at all take thy neighbour’s raiment to pledge, thou shalt deliver it unto him by that the sun goeth down:
27 For that is his covering only, it is his raiment for his skin: wherein shall he sleep? and it shall come to pass, when he crieth unto me, that I will hear; for I am gracious.
28 Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people.
29 Thou shalt not delay to offer the first of thy ripe fruits, and of thy liquors: the firstborn of thy sons shalt thou give unto me.
30 Likewise shalt thou do with thine oxen, and with thy sheep: seven days it shall be with his dam; on the eighth day thou shalt give it me.
31 And ye shall be holy men unto me: neither shall ye eat any flesh that is torn of beasts in the field; ye shall cast it to the dogs.
I-RIGHT-I, you need to get it right (#91). The law was not passed by the citizens of Crawford, but by the commissioners of McLennan County. Your statement about them “disturbing the peace” doesn’t holding water, unless you are considering those sorry-assed hillbillies are worried about Sheehan and company scaring off the jack rabbits.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but what county was an abortion clinic that hs a law that won’t allow a protester within 7 miles? I mean, I thought it was only a couple and even they were limited to just 100 feet.
Speaking of skanks, I bet some of the liberals here are wondering how your old lady doing. Dirty rats. They ain’t respect for anyone’s woman. Especially yours. I bet IraqVet is wondering if she has a “cottage cheese” ass on her, too, although he is too polite to suggest it. I have to agree with you, the outrageous posts they have here just goes to show you how lowdown and totally disrespectful these liberals can be. Not at all like me and you.
November 25th, 2005 at 10:51 amLive Vote
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Yes, and I’ve nearly finished it
29%
Not yet, but I plan to start soon
35%
I’m waiting until December
36%
How much do you plan to spend this year? * 7530 responses
More than last year
13%
Less than last year
58%
The same as last year
30%
Where will you do most of your shopping? * 7512 responses
At the mall
50%
On the Web
35%
Bah humbug! I’m not doing any shopping
15%
Not a scientifically valid survey. Click to learn more.
November 25th, 2005 at 11:02 amThis is no surprise.
Surprise rise in jobless claims
November 25th, 2005 at 11:08 amAmericans filing for jobless benefits up by 30,000 last week as storm-related claims keep growing.
November 23, 2005: 8:36 AM EST
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The number of U.S. workers filing new claims for jobless benefits grew by a larger-than-expected 30,000 last week, government data showed Wednesday, taking claims to their highest point since mid-October.
Time is running up, you have to make up your minds about Bush and co.
November 25th, 2005 at 1:22 pmSend them love for making the right decisions and hope he ‘ll find the courage to withdraw.
I-RIgHT-I, your post number 87 is quite illuminating.
In fact, it shows your complete lack of understanding of the constitution, our laws, rights and liberties.
The right to protest is not just to protest those things that little goosesteppers like you think we should be able to protest. The right to protest is for us to “peacefully” protest our own government.
Thats what it’s all about genius. Protesting our own goverment when we believe it has gone astray, is not just a right, its a duty, and has been since the formation of our country.
And it is seditious traitors who would seek to stifle that right, that duty, and silence the American people from speaking their minds with regards to their government.
We have a name for men who would beat other men for their words.
That word is NAZI.
NAZI PIGS actually.
Go back and learn about the freedoms that real men fought and died for before traitors, cowards and general punks like yourselves rose up in the ranks.
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“Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it”
“Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security”
From the Declaration of Independence, July 4th, 1776
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If that doesn’t work for you, (or if their are too many polysyllabic words for your ball bearing sized brain) then muse back to your kindergarten years where the chant “sticks and stones will break my bones, but names will never hurt me” should have taught you something.
WORFEUS
November 25th, 2005 at 1:41 pmkjlovell
In your comment number 79, you said to google this. I will. And if your right, I mean if your really right, then holy crap we are in trouble.
If little georgy was doing things like you describe, putting firecrackers in cats butts, frogs mouths, boiling a dog, then he should not even be walking around in public, much less walking around in the Oval Office.
If it’s true, then he was evil from the day he crawled out of that icy womb.
Thats really, really scary stuff.
I’ll check it out. Thanks.
November 25th, 2005 at 1:48 pmkjlovell
I have not yet found any corroborating evidence that he did the Firecracker in the cat’s butt thing, or the boiling the dog however. I will keep looking.
But it seems you are at least partially correct.
Apparently our glorious kommandant in chief really did take pleasure in torturing, maiming and horribly killing frogs.
Apparently whenever it would rain a puddle would form outside of the Busch compound, and lil georgy porgy did indeed create his own little house of horror tormenting these defenseless little creatures.
This explains, no validates, so much. He really is, and always was, a sick, twisted little man, and I am more afraid now then I was a few hours ago. Anyone capable of doing such sick, twisted things for fun, has long since lost his “moral compass”.
We are screwed.
November 25th, 2005 at 3:08 pmWorfeus, I have been doing the google and wikipedia searches and have found them now sanitized. Go figure, however I did find the original article about the animal abuse, and it is as follows. The current version (like some other facts surrounding this chimp) have been edited.
March 20, 2003
George W. Is High on Killing
Every once in a while we experience one of those little moments when a small tear breaks through the social fabric and allows us a glimpse of its underlying workings.
A Knight Ridder reporter was treated to such a rare glimpse and apparently couldn’t resist including it in his story, though it was tangential to the narrative. And no editor cut it out, so we are left with a gem, a glimpse into the strange personality of George W.
The article was a description of Bush’s speech announcing that he had ordered strikes to begin on Iraq.
Here’s the quote: “Minutes before the speech, an internal television monitor showed the president pumping his fist. ‘Feels good,’ he said.”
Dubya is now at the brink of what he has pushed for relentlessly for years, perhaps as far back as 1992 when Bill Clinton was elected and ruined Daddy Bush’s chance to continue his agenda and get in a few more armed engagements, which surely would have included a return to Iraq to take revenge for his embarassment over people talking about “the wimp factor” and saying he was a little feminine.
CNN started hyping “Iraq: The Unfinished War” with its own logo back in December 2001 even before George W. took office. It has been a long time coming. It took 911 to clear the way for the war Bush desired so passionately. Now he is so close he can taste it. The blood has begun to flow, and it is exhilarating. Soon he will have Saddam Hussein’s head.
We are talking now about a guy who as a kid put firecrackers in frogs and threw them into the air to watch them explode. He would routinely place firecrackers in cats anuses and set them off. Once if a fit of rage, took a stray dog and in a mock satanic ritual boiled it to death, although his family had the good sense to brush this little endeavor under the family carpet with their other scandals. He cracked himself up in an interview with Talk magazine by mocking a woman on death row whose cries for mercy he scorned, screwing up his face and saying, “Please don’t kill me!” in an impersonation of the deceased.
He presided over more executions as governor of Texas than any governor since capital punishment was legalized. His own people said he never spent more than 15 minutes deliberating over whether to sign the order to kill. This included at least one case in which the public defender slept during the trial, and many other cases in which the court-appointed lawyers obviously just took the money and ran, leaving their clients to the mercy of a vicious and corrupt system.
This is a man who enjoys killing. He is totally in his element when it comes to killing. Everyone is different. This is the way he is.
It reminds me of something in Ed Sanders’ book on the Charles Manson murders The Family, in which Sanders described Manson as one who, even more than the excessive drug use and sex of his little tribe, got off on murder. Some people like it.
Then there was Ted Bundy, the serial killer. In one documentary film, a police detective who had worked to track down Bundy seemed uncharacteristically amazed when he said, “I never encountered anyone who was so consumed with murder.”
So here is George preparing to give his speech announcing that the killing has begun in Iraq, the long-awaited moment. And there he is pumping his fist and saying, “Feels good!” It makes perfect sense, too much sense.
That’s one for the history books.
More on Georgie’s frog-exploding activities:
November 25th, 2005 at 9:04 pmSomeone asked me for the source on young George W.’s frog-exploding experiments, so I did some searches and came up with some … interesting stuff. Interesting? How about terrifying? This is a real life horror story. It ain’t no Stephen King movie. The real life Dubya inspires images of the devil’s child in the movie “The Omen”. Or worse.
In biographical sketch of Bush in the New York Times, Nicholas Kristoff quotes Bush’s boyhood friend Terry Throckmorton as saying, “We were terrible to animals.” When the frogs came out after a rain, the kids would get BB guns and shoot them, Throckmorton said, or worse. “Or we’d put firecrackers in the frogs and throw them and blow them up.”
To really stoke your fears of this guy’s capacity for psychopathology, check out “Shrub Bush’s Pathological Focus On Saddam Hussein” by Alvin Wyman Walker, PhD, PD, PC.. It refers to the frog assassinations, among other things.
This was the son of the head of the CIA we are talking about. Try to grok that for a second.
The article I had on file for the frog anecdote was in an article by Myriam Miedzian, called “Growing up is hard to do,” originally published in the Baltimore Sun, September 12, 2000.
Here’s a key section:
So when he was a kid, George W. enjoyed putting firecrackers into frogs, throwing them in the air, and then watching them blow up. Should this be cause for alarm? How relevant is a man’s childhood behavior to what he is like as an adult? And in this case, to what he would be like as president of the United States?
Cruelty to animals is a common precursor to later criminal violence. But in rural West Texas, where George W. grew up, it was not uncommon for some boys to indulge in such cruelty….
His blowing up frogs or shooting them with BB guns with friends does not have the same significance it would have if, for example, a city boy blew up the family cat. In fact, George’s childhood friend, Terry Throckmorton, openly and laughingly admits, ‘We were terrible to animals.’
But there were surely many boys in George’s hometown of Midland, Texas, who would have been repelled at the thought of blowing up frogs. So how much importance should we attribute to this early behavior?
Is boy George’s lack of empathy and cruelty not just childhood insensitivity, but rather a personality trait still present in the man? If so, we have much to be concerned about.
I received this e-mail today:
Hi,
I was drawn to your site by an article about George ‘Feelgood’ Bush – it’s a dangerous place for a person who should be working!
It seems like a startling (not to say scaring) coincidence that you should compare him to Bundy et al. As soon as I saw Bush on tv the first time I felt that he was the kind of person that one shouldn’t turn the back on. There’s simply something about his … ‘aura’ if you will; he seems to emanate something horribly wrong, like there’s no actual person inside. Even today I simply switch away from his appearances on tv.
So, I very quickly started believing that he is a psychopath. I’ve read a good deal about the subject, and it fits too well, I think. Psychopaths tend to have this air of ‘innocense’ about them – like they can’t for their lives imagine why people are so cross about what they do – whether it is lying, stealing or killing. Bush reminds me about something I read many years ago, in a book by C.S.Lewis (’Perelandra’ I think it was called). It’s a kind of ’science fiction’, and the main character (named ‘Ransom’ I think) is on Venus engaged in a mental battle with the evil guy, and in one scene he finds the bad guy engrossed in killing frogs in a painful way. What really took my breath away about this situation is the way he meets Ransom with a totally innocent smile – this is a guy that quite clearly and simply enjoys what he is doing and finds nothing wrong about it.
I think when we begin to see pictures of little children blown apart or whatever, Bush will simply not feel anything, and he will be surprised that others do. That I believe is also the reason why he always talks as if he doesn’t know what he is saying – because he doesn’t. It doesn’t come from the heart, there is no heart, no soul. This is not the emperor with no clothes, it’s the clothes with no emperor.
It is probably hard for most to imagine how it is to be Bush – or any other psychopath. Normal people feel something whenever they say or think something; it’s not possible not to. Even when you say a neutral word like ‘car’ it evokes feelings, and of course emotional words evoke more. Apparently psychopaths aren’t that way – they are ’semantically blind’.
For more about Bush’s frog killing see Revenge of the Bush Dynasty, by Elizabeth Mitchell published by Hyperion Press, 2001 ISBN: 0786866306.
We are talking now about a guy who as a kid put firecrackers in frogs and threw them into the air to watch them explode. He would routinely place firecrackers in cats anuses and set them off. Once if a fit of rage, took a stray dog and in a mock satanic ritual boiled it to death, although his family had the good sense to brush this little endeavor under the family carpet with their other scandals. He cracked himself up in an interview with Talk magazine by mocking a woman on death row whose cries for mercy he scorned, screwing up his face and saying, “Please don’t kill me!†in an impersonation of the deceased.
November 25th, 2005 at 9:06 pmHe presided over more executions as governor of Texas than any governor since capital punishment was legalized. His own people said he never spent more than 15 minutes deliberating over whether to sign the order to kill. This included at least one case in which the public defender slept during the trial, and many other cases in which the court-appointed lawyers obviously just took the money and ran, leaving their clients to the mercy of a vicious and corrupt system.
This is a man who enjoys killing. He is totally in his element when it comes to killing.
His parents could not possibly be proud of him. Truly disturbed and pathetic.
November 25th, 2005 at 9:07 pmMan,
That is some heavy stuff. Absolutely horrific.
November 25th, 2005 at 10:18 pmI would love to check out crash-cart-cheeneys childhood, but that was before pen and paper, so not a lot of info out there about him. He was associated with dumbya-the-smarter and nixon during watergate. That is enough evidence to show birds (or crooks) of a feather stick together.
November 25th, 2005 at 11:38 pmKj and WOR, Thats some sick stuff you posted about Bush.
Every criminal behavioralist I’ve ever seen (on T.V.) supports your claims about people who torture animals. Specifically, they say that people like Bush become serial murderers.
Bush a.k.a. Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy needs to be tried, convicted and executed. In the state of Texas, if possible.
November 26th, 2005 at 1:59 amI have been spreading the word about this twisted, evil family since the Ray-gun era.
When you look at the family, their active work in supporting Hitler, working in companies that directly helped him financially, (prescott bush) actually managing slave labor in Germany. The son entering into the Navy to sanitize the family name after they were caught with their hand in the cookie jar. Later HW becomes a CIA covert agent that recruited, trained and financed para military assisns (see bay of pigs/operation northwoods). Then when that didn’t work out, they changed the location and JFK gets the operatioin northwoods treatment. Johnson (Bush family friend and Texan oil man gets his job) keeps up the good work in Vietnam. Nixon (you’ll see a young rove/cheeney/HW in the pics with him) gets caught up in that whole watergate thing. HW is around (along with cheeney/rove) in the Iran Contra thing/Columbia scandal and more. HW gets the king position, then is incopetent in that position. They hate it because the people of American choose Clinton and actually liked him, so they try time and time again to impeach him but just CAN’T DO IT.
Enter Dumbya…..cant win an election, so what do you do, STEAL it. Not just once, but twice. What makes carlyle group and the shrubs mountians of money? WAR! It helps that your family is in business with the Saudi Royal Family (see carlyle group) and the Bin Ladens (see carlyle group/citi bank) so you get some Saudis to do 9/11 and then loosely link it with Iraq. No WMDs? No problem, have carlyle group ship them from turkey and plant them….. ooops, those damn brewster jennings CIA covert double undercover agents caught the shipment…. what to do…. her husband is blowing the whistle on us…. out her/discredit him.
Tortue? Again no problem…. see krash-cart-cheeney.
This is your brain.
This is your brain on Bush.
Any Questions?
November 26th, 2005 at 4:36 amI-RIgHT-I, your post number 87 is quite illuminating.
In fact, it shows your complete lack of understanding of the constitution, our laws, rights and liberties.
Comment by Warpedisus
Screw you Warp. Your right to protest ends at the point you harm the mission and the country, at least as far as I’m concerned. Take a look at the post above. People who believe that shit and broadcast it abroad don’t deserve to speak freely among decent people. I can’t wait for the day when you bastards are held accountable for the things you say. If it’s said in my hearing you’ll be held accountable right then and there.
November 26th, 2005 at 5:44 pmHe presided over more executions as governor of Texas than any governor since capital punishment was legalized. His own people said he never spent more than 15 minutes deliberating over whether to sign the order to kill. This included at least one case in which the public defender slept during the trial, and many other cases in which the court-appointed lawyers obviously just took the money and ran, leaving their clients to the mercy of a vicious and corrupt system.
This is a man who enjoys killing. He is totally in his element when it comes to killing.
Comment by kjlovell
You’re a sad and sick piece of shit Lovell.
November 26th, 2005 at 5:46 pmAnd it is seditious traitors who would seek to stifle that right, that duty, and silence the American people from speaking their minds with regards to their government.
Comment by Warped-R-us
Your rights include a hefty helping of responsibility, especially in a time of war. For example Jane Fonda and John Kerry should just now be getting out of prison. You DO know what responsibility means, don’t you punk?
“However, the state only holds power in trust for the collective good, and its legitimacy is ultimately founded on the implied consent of its citizens. Whereas the state has an obligation to protect and preserve the security and safety of its citizens, the citizens have an obligation to abide by the ethical and legal principles upon which the state is founded.
When individuals through deeds or words threaten the security of the state and the safety of its citizens the government has a legal and ethical obligation to do whatever is needed to protect its citizens. A government that fails to do so would rightly be deemed negligible and held culpable for such negligence.”
http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/freedom-if-others-are-restrained/2005/11/20/1132421541927.html
November 26th, 2005 at 6:28 pmI-RIGHT-I
You know who threatens people because they don’t like their words?
Nazi’s dipshit, that’s who.
Get a clue, no one in here is scared of you or your little girl threats, you sick little coward. No one in here, or probably anywhere near that trailerpark you house your double-wide in, is afraid of your empty threats, or your big fat mouth.
Threats of violence for someones words just prove to which god you pray.
November 26th, 2005 at 10:34 pmAnd by the way putz, all of what you just posted is mute to our constitutional right to protest our own government.
See we don’t hate our country, we just hate you.
November 26th, 2005 at 10:43 pmI-wrong-wronger-wrongest-nazi-fag-kkk-lover gets really angry when anyone puts its face in the truth.
It only knows the REPUGnican talking points, and cannot take part in a debate. Armed with dim wits, it is actually quite simple and cannot discuss the issues.
You can see the KKK postings it posts saying that all fags, jews and ragheads must be taken to the concentration camps.
It is a small minded simple biggot.
Pay no attention to it.
March 20, 2003
November 27th, 2005 at 2:54 amGeorge W. Is High on Killing
Every once in a while we experience one of those little moments when a small tear breaks through the social fabric and allows us a glimpse of its underlying workings.
A Knight Ridder reporter was treated to such a rare glimpse and apparently couldn’t resist including it in his story, though it was tangential to the narrative. And no editor cut it out, so we are left with a gem, a glimpse into the strange personality of George W.
The article was a description of Bush’s speech announcing that he had ordered strikes to begin on Iraq.
Here’s the quote: “Minutes before the speech, an internal television monitor showed the president pumping his fist. ‘Feels good,’ he said.â€
Dubya is now at the brink of what he has pushed for relentlessly for years, perhaps as far back as 1992 when Bill Clinton was elected and ruined Daddy Bush’s chance to continue his agenda and get in a few more armed engagements, which surely would have included a return to Iraq to take revenge for his embarassment over people talking about “the wimp factor†and saying he was a little feminine….
We are talking now about a guy who as a kid put firecrackers in frogs and threw them into the air to watch them explode. He would routinely place firecrackers in cats anuses and set them off. Once if a fit of rage, took a stray dog and in a mock satanic ritual boiled it to death, although his family had the good sense to brush this little endeavor under the family carpet with their other scandals. He cracked himself up in an interview with Talk magazine by mocking a woman on death row whose cries for mercy he scorned, screwing up his face and saying, “Please don’t kill me!†in an impersonation of the deceased.
He presided over more executions as governor of Texas than any governor since capital punishment was legalized. His own people said he never spent more than 15 minutes deliberating over whether to sign the order to kill. This included at least one case in which the public defender slept during the trial, and many other cases in which the court-appointed lawyers obviously just took the money and ran, leaving their clients to the mercy of a vicious and corrupt system.
This is a man who enjoys killing. He is totally in his element when it comes to killing.
More on Georgie’s frog-exploding activities:
Someone asked me for the source on young George W.’s frog-exploding experiments, so I did some searches and came up with some … interesting stuff. Interesting? How about terrifying? This is a real life horror story. It ain’t no Stephen King movie. The real life Dubya inspires images of the devil’s child in the movie “The Omenâ€. Or worse….
In biographical sketch of Bush in the New York Times, Nicholas Kristoff quotes Bush’s boyhood friend Terry Throckmorton as saying, “We were terrible to animals.†When the frogs came out after a rain, the kids would get BB guns and shoot them, Throckmorton said, or worse. “Or we’d put firecrackers in the frogs and throw them and blow them up.â€
To really stoke your fears of this guy’s capacity for psychopathology, check out “Shrub Bush’s Pathological Focus On Saddam Hussein†by Alvin Wyman Walker, PhD, PD, PC.. It refers to the frog assassinations, among other things.
This was the son of the head of the CIA we are talking about. Try to grok that for a second.
The article I had on file for the frog anecdote was in an article by Myriam Miedzian, called “Growing up is hard to do,†originally published in the Baltimore Sun, September 12, 2000.
Here’s a key section:
So when he was a kid, George W. enjoyed putting firecrackers into frogs, throwing them in the air, and then watching them blow up. Should this be cause for alarm? How relevant is a man’s childhood behavior to what he is like as an adult? And in this case, to what he would be like as president of the United States?
Cruelty to animals is a common precursor to later criminal violence. But in rural West Texas, where George W. grew up, it was not uncommon for some boys to indulge in such cruelty….
His blowing up frogs or shooting them with BB guns with friends does not have the same significance it would have if, for example, a city boy blew up the family cat. In fact, George’s childhood friend, Terry Throckmorton, openly and laughingly admits, ‘We were terrible to animals.’
But there were surely many boys in George’s hometown of Midland, Texas, who would have been repelled at the thought of blowing up frogs. So how much importance should we attribute to this early behavior?
Is boy George’s lack of empathy and cruelty not just childhood insensitivity, but rather a personality trait still present in the man? If so, we have much to be concerned about.
I received this e-mail today:
Hi,
I was drawn to your site by an article about George ‘Feelgood’ Bush – it’s a dangerous place for a person who should be working!
It seems like a startling (not to say scaring) coincidence that you should compare him to Bundy et al. As soon as I saw Bush on tv the first time I felt that he was the kind of person that one shouldn’t turn the back on. There’s simply something about his … ‘aura’ if you will; he seems to emanate something horribly wrong, like there’s no actual person inside. Even today I simply switch away from his appearances on tv.
So, I very quickly started believing that he is a psychopath. I’ve read a good deal about the subject, and it fits too well, I think. Psychopaths tend to have this air of ‘innocense’ about them – like they can’t for their lives imagine why people are so cross about what they do – whether it is lying, stealing or killing. Bush reminds me about something I read many years ago, in a book by C.S.Lewis (’Perelandra’ I think it was called). It’s a kind of ’science fiction’, and the main character (named ‘Ransom’ I think) is on Venus engaged in a mental battle with the evil guy, and in one scene he finds the bad guy engrossed in killing frogs in a painful way. What really took my breath away about this situation is the way he meets Ransom with a totally innocent smile – this is a guy that quite clearly and simply enjoys what he is doing and finds nothing wrong about it.
I think when we begin to see pictures of little children blown apart or whatever, Bush will simply not feel anything, and he will be surprised that others do. That I believe is also the reason why he always talks as if he doesn’t know what he is saying – because he doesn’t. It doesn’t come from the heart, there is no heart, no soul. This is not the emperor with no clothes, it’s the clothes with no emperor.
It is probably hard for most to imagine how it is to be Bush – or any other psychopath. Normal people feel something whenever they say or think something; it’s not possible not to. Even when you say a neutral word like ‘car’ it evokes feelings, and of course emotional words evoke more. Apparently psychopaths aren’t that way – they are ’semantically blind’.
For more about Bush’s frog killing see Revenge of the Bush Dynasty, by Elizabeth Mitchell published by Hyperion Press, 2001 ISBN: 0786866306.
More on georgie-porgie-dumbya:
We are talking now about a guy who as a kid put firecrackers in frogs and threw them into the air to watch them explode. He would routinely place firecrackers in cats anuses and set them off. Once if a fit of rage, took a stray dog and in a mock satanic ritual boiled it to death, although his family had the good sense to brush this little endeavor under the family carpet with their other scandals. He cracked himself up in an interview with Talk magazine by mocking a woman on death row whose cries for mercy he scorned, screwing up his face and saying, “Please don’t kill me!†in an impersonation of the deceased.
November 27th, 2005 at 2:56 amHe presided over more executions as governor of Texas than any governor since capital punishment was legalized. His own people said he never spent more than 15 minutes deliberating over whether to sign the order to kill. This included at least one case in which the public defender slept during the trial, and many other cases in which the court-appointed lawyers obviously just took the money and ran, leaving their clients to the mercy of a vicious and corrupt system.
This is a man who enjoys killing. He is totally in his element when it comes to killing.
But bear in mind, he comes by this stuff naturally….
When a mother of a Vietnam MIA stood up in a presidential gathering and asked what the so called administraion of GHW shrub (#41) he shouted at her:
“…shut up, just shut up! You people make me sick! Get her out of here!…”
such a kind a gentle family (more shrub lies: a kinder and gentler America). Marie Antoinette Bush about the N.O. homeless in the Astrodome: “…well it is a little scary, they say they want to stay here. This is working out quite well for them, as they are underpriviledged anyway.”
Such class! Do you expect any more from their supporters?
November 27th, 2005 at 3:00 amSuch class! Do you expect any more from their supporters?
Comment by kjlovell
Such a liar, and a bad liar. I certainly don’t expect anything different from you.
November 27th, 2005 at 10:28 amAnother kind of war protestor….YIKES!!!
The leader of Iraq’s most powerful political party has called on the United States to let Iraqi fighters take a more aggressive role against insurgents, saying his country will only be able to defeat the insurgency when the United States lets Iraqis get tough.
“The more freedom given to Iraqis, the more chance for further progress there would be, particularly in fighting terror,” said Abdul Aziz Hakim, head of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, the Shiite Muslim religious party that leads the transitional government and whose armed wing is the most feared of Iraq’s many factional forces.
Instead, Hakim asserted in a rare interview late last week, the United States is tying Iraq’s hands in the fight against insurgents. One of Iraq’s “biggest problems is the mistaken or wrong policies practiced by the Americans,” he said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/26/AR2005112601211.html
Now, let’s be clear. This is one of the real leaders of Iraq and he’s telling us to get out of the way and let them do what needs to be done to clean out the Sunni Triangle and the Sunni insurgents coming in from Syria and Iran. I think he’s tired of his mosques, grade schools and weddings being bombed and his people killed. The good thing is when he gets his chance (and he will) there won’t be any peace/love/dove Leftwing Loser Democrats around crying about abuse and atrocities committed against the terrorists and tying the hands of the military. Why? Because he’ll kill all the whiners he can and deport the rest. There will be no more Democrats visiting Iraq. So who do you think really wants to cut troops and hand over more responsibility to the Iraqis? Bush or the Donks?
November 27th, 2005 at 10:45 am…in a related story, 100’s of pro-war protesters camped around Ted Kennedy’s house and demanded full disclosure of the Kennedy tradition of abusing women and leaving the crime scene. The NY Times, Washington Post and CNN declined an invitation to attend the protest as they were busy worshipping the grave of Ho Chi Minh….
November 28th, 2005 at 1:42 amI am a stupid little idiot that can’t get laid if my life depended on it!
Men won’t touch me.
Women run in terror when they see me.
I scare small animals and children when they see me.
I am socially retarded. I think I am superior, but in reality I do know that I am a
Horrid Piece of $hit.
Forgive me, God is not finished with me yet.
November 28th, 2005 at 1:10 pmBut bear in mind, he comes by this stuff naturally….
When a mother of a Vietnam MIA stood up in a presidential gathering and asked what the so called administraion of GHW shrub (#41) he shouted at her:
“…shut up, just shut up! You people make me sick! Get her out of here!…â€
such a kind a gentle family (more shrub lies: a kinder and gentler America). Marie Antoinette Bush about the N.O. homeless in the Astrodome: “…well it is a little scary, they say they want to stay here. This is working out quite well for them, as they are underpriviledged anyway.â€
Such class! Do you expect any more from their supporters?
Comment by kjlovell
That first quote of the big bad bush was in 1984 I believe. I saw the film of it recently, and was horrified to see that this a$$hole would treat people like that. In the private sector, you would be fired for an outburst like that!
But I expect nothing less from the likes of the shrubs and their supporters.
Keep up the good work KJ!
Educating the public is good for them.
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