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		<title>By: Bad Credit Car Loans</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/27/rove-bad-sign/comment-page-2/#comment-4767046</link>
		<dc:creator>Bad Credit Car Loans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 10:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lashandra</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/27/rove-bad-sign/comment-page-2/#comment-4667480</link>
		<dc:creator>Lashandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 02:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Lashandra&lt;/strong&gt;

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<p>I have seen many sites before and most of them do not look this good. I cannot wait to let my friends know about this site. Thanks for the excellent content.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4667480', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: agent bad collection debt</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;agent bad collection debt&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: Sign Up For Online Accounts</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/27/rove-bad-sign/comment-page-2/#comment-4459610</link>
		<dc:creator>Sign Up For Online Accounts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Sign Up For Online Accounts&lt;/strong&gt;

I don&#039;t mean to be too in your face, but I&#039;m not sure I agree with this. Anyhow, thanks for sharing and I think I&#039;ll come to this blog more often.</description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t mean to be too in your face, but I&#8217;m not sure I agree with this. Anyhow, thanks for sharing and I think I&#8217;ll come to this blog more often.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4459610', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Roxann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roxann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Roxann&lt;/strong&gt;

I have become my own version of an optimist. If I can&#039;t make it through one door, I&#039;ll go through another door - or I&#039;ll make a door. Something terrific will come no matter how dark the present.</description>
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<p>I have become my own version of an optimist. If I can&#8217;t make it through one door, I&#8217;ll go through another door &#8211; or I&#8217;ll make a door. Something terrific will come no matter how dark the present.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4359652', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Pay Day Loan</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Caroline Thalia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline Thalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>leaned over for a closer look at those <a href="http://www.blay65.com" rel="nofollow">play65</a> the bottle to pour some milk in the glass Nothing came out Marty held  <a href="http://www.blay65.com" rel="nofollow">backgammon online</a> realized <a href="http://www.blay65.com" rel="nofollow">online backgammon</a>  or spun around in a wire bird cage As each ball is selected, .<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=904339', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Caroline Thalia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline Thalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2006 13:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>leaned over for a closer look at those &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blay65.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;play65&lt;/a&gt; the bottle to pour some milk in the glass Nothing came out Marty held  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blay65.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;backgammon online&lt;/a&gt; realized &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blay65.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;online backgammon&lt;/a&gt;  or spun around in a wire bird cage As each ball is selected, .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>leaned over for a closer look at those <a href="http://www.blay65.com" rel="nofollow">play65</a> the bottle to pour some milk in the glass Nothing came out Marty held  <a href="http://www.blay65.com" rel="nofollow">backgammon online</a> realized <a href="http://www.blay65.com" rel="nofollow">online backgammon</a>  or spun around in a wire bird cage As each ball is selected, .<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=904340', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Roger Trent</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/27/rove-bad-sign/comment-page-2/#comment-295966</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds good to me, Happy Holidays, no, I mean &quot;Merry Xmas&quot; everybody! ha ha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds good to me, Happy Holidays, no, I mean &#8220;Merry Xmas&#8221; everybody! ha ha<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=295966', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: a.</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/27/rove-bad-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-267502</link>
		<dc:creator>a.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 01:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I look forward to the day when honorable men and women act as leaders for the common good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to the day when honorable men and women act as leaders for the common good.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=267502', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Justin Passing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Passing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2005 18:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œKarl Rove Formulaâ€

It goes like this.

1) Confuse the public 
2) Create an â€œevil doerâ€ 
3) Create a Righteous Savior</description>
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<p>It goes like this.</p>
<p>1) Confuse the public<br />
2) Create an â€œevil doerâ€<br />
3) Create a Righteous Savior<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=266237', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Evil</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/27/rove-bad-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-259176</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Evil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 05:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rove is going to be brought down by his own arrogance. He assumes he is smarter than everyone else and therefore he can worm his way out of any adverse situation. Not to mention the fact that Bush will probably pardon him as soon as he is convicted. After all is said and done that may be so, but Bush has to still be president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rove is going to be brought down by his own arrogance. He assumes he is smarter than everyone else and therefore he can worm his way out of any adverse situation. Not to mention the fact that Bush will probably pardon him as soon as he is convicted. After all is said and done that may be so, but Bush has to still be president.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=259176', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Evil</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/27/rove-bad-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-259151</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Evil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 05:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl (Chubby Butt) Rove forgot one other thing.... Patrick Fitzgerald won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl (Chubby Butt) Rove forgot one other thing&#8230;. Patrick Fitzgerald won&#8217;t.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=259151', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: TAC</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/27/rove-bad-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-258971</link>
		<dc:creator>TAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 02:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Rove claims that any inaccuracies in his previous testimony were because &#039;he was very busy man who simply forgot&#039; about his conversation with Time Magazineâ€™s Matt Cooper and other information relevant to the case.&quot;

This, coming from the TurdBiscuit who&#039;s famous for being able to quickly recite obscure precinct polling data from years ago?  I hope this lying, double-chinned Pillsbury Doughboy is raped in prison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rove claims that any inaccuracies in his previous testimony were because &#8216;he was very busy man who simply forgot&#8217; about his conversation with Time Magazineâ€™s Matt Cooper and other information relevant to the case.&#8221;</p>
<p>This, coming from the TurdBiscuit who&#8217;s famous for being able to quickly recite obscure precinct polling data from years ago?  I hope this lying, double-chinned Pillsbury Doughboy is raped in prison.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=258971', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/27/rove-bad-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-258363</link>
		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&amp;forum=104&amp;topic_id=5456280

important!!!!!!</description>
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<p>important!!!!!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=258363', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Pete Bogs</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/27/rove-bad-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-258281</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Bogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the Supreme Court crumbling is a bad sign for us all...

http://blogdebogs.blogspot.com/2005/11/supreme-court-losing-its-marble.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Supreme Court crumbling is a bad sign for us all&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://blogdebogs.blogspot.com/2005/11/supreme-court-losing-its-marble.html" rel="nofollow">http://blogdebogs.blogspot.com/2005/11/supreme-court-losing-its-marble.html</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=258281', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: REVOLTED REPUBLICAN</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/11/27/rove-bad-sign/comment-page-1/#comment-257688</link>
		<dc:creator>REVOLTED REPUBLICAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hitler took a self-imposed dirt nap when he finally admitted to himself that all was lost.  He was not alone, some of his cronies in the bunker did the same.

The problem now is:  Dumbya and his evil cronies in the bunker will never admit that they are finished, and they lack even the class of the nazi party.  And they lack the stones to remove themselves and save a little face.  Even Nixon looks classy next to these clowns.

I can&#039;t wait until they come to get them and dumbya has a melt down during the perp walk on camera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hitler took a self-imposed dirt nap when he finally admitted to himself that all was lost.  He was not alone, some of his cronies in the bunker did the same.</p>
<p>The problem now is:  Dumbya and his evil cronies in the bunker will never admit that they are finished, and they lack even the class of the nazi party.  And they lack the stones to remove themselves and save a little face.  Even Nixon looks classy next to these clowns.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t wait until they come to get them and dumbya has a melt down during the perp walk on camera.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=257688', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: KillCon2006</title>
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		<dc:creator>KillCon2006</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;#24: GSD,

Suicide is never funny.
Suicide should never be wished upon anyone.

Comments like that only make us like the ones we are fighting against.

That said, I DO hope Fitzgerald gets these SOBâ€™s.
Iâ€™m afraid theyâ€™ve gotten a lot more slippery than in â€œDickâ€™sâ€ day. Iâ€™m really afraid we wonâ€™t get anything to stick. Hell, if OJ can walk away, what does it really say about the accountability of our Judical System? Our nation?

America is in sad times, indeed. 

Comment by True Blue â€” November 27, 2005 &lt;/em&gt;

Suicide is just fine. It&#039;s your life and if you what to end it, that&#039;s your business, not the state&#039;s. That&#039;s freedom and self-determination for you,  but it&#039;s too good for Rove. He should be shot. As far as just being like the enemy, whatever enemy, the ones here at home or the ones elsewhere, I should hope we would be better than them, in every way. More vicious and deadly when need be. It&#039;s the only way to win, and survive. The right IS the enemy at home. Death to them all. However they want it. As they are cowards, I expect quite a few will take the coward&#039;s way out. Good riddance. It will save us the trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>#24: GSD,</p>
<p>Suicide is never funny.<br />
Suicide should never be wished upon anyone.</p>
<p>Comments like that only make us like the ones we are fighting against.</p>
<p>That said, I DO hope Fitzgerald gets these SOBâ€™s.<br />
Iâ€™m afraid theyâ€™ve gotten a lot more slippery than in â€œDickâ€™sâ€ day. Iâ€™m really afraid we wonâ€™t get anything to stick. Hell, if OJ can walk away, what does it really say about the accountability of our Judical System? Our nation?</p>
<p>America is in sad times, indeed. </p>
<p>Comment by True Blue â€” November 27, 2005 </em></p>
<p>Suicide is just fine. It&#8217;s your life and if you what to end it, that&#8217;s your business, not the state&#8217;s. That&#8217;s freedom and self-determination for you,  but it&#8217;s too good for Rove. He should be shot. As far as just being like the enemy, whatever enemy, the ones here at home or the ones elsewhere, I should hope we would be better than them, in every way. More vicious and deadly when need be. It&#8217;s the only way to win, and survive. The right IS the enemy at home. Death to them all. However they want it. As they are cowards, I expect quite a few will take the coward&#8217;s way out. Good riddance. It will save us the trouble.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=257415', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terror tip for rich 
 
E-mails warned bigs of city attack



 
By ALISON GENDAR
DAILY NEWS POLICE BUREAU CHIEF 
 
 
Cop guards downtown Broad St. subway station Monday as New Yorkersâ€™ nerves are frayed by terror warning.  
 
The city&#039;s rich and well-connected were tipped off to last week&#039;s subway terror threat days before average New Yorkers, the Daily News has learned.
At least two E-mails revealing the purported plot were sent to a select crowd of business and arts executives early last week by New Yorkers who claimed to have close connections to Homeland Security and other federal officials, authorities said.

The NYPD confirmed that it learned of the E-mails on Oct. 3 - three days before Mayor Bloomberg, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly and the FBI went public with the threat.

&quot;I have just received a most disturbing call from one of my oldest friends from growing up in Washington,&quot; one E-mail began. &quot;He called with a very specific caution to not enter or use the New York City subway system from Oct. 7 through 10th.&quot;

A second E-mail sounded a similar ominous tone: &quot;As some of you know my father works for Homeland Security, at a very high position and receives security briefings on a daily basis.

&quot;The only information that I can pass on is that everyone should at all costs not ride the subway for the next two weeks in major areas of NYC.&quot;

One of the E-mails was dated Oct. 3 with a 6:05 p.m. time stamp, about 90 minutes before Bloomberg was fully briefed on the threat, a police source said.

The early warning infuriated several police officials, who noted that Homeland Security officials had challenged the credibility of the threat after the city and FBI warned the public.

&quot;We&#039;re briefing the mayor, ratcheting up security, talking about when to go public - and Homeland Security is downplaying the whole thing while their people are telling friends to stay out of the subways,&quot; a police source said. &quot;It&#039;s pretty bad.&quot;

NYPD investigators obtained copies of the E-mails on Oct. 4, as Bloomberg and Kelly were finalizing a plan to respond to the threat, and police officials gave the E-mails to the Homeland Security Department, police said.

&#039;Members of our corporate security network informed the Police Department of the E-mails&#039; existence days prior to any announcement of the threat,&quot; NYPD Deputy Commissioner Paul Browne said yesterday.

Homeland Security officials confirmed that they were told about the early E-mail warnings.

&quot;We have looked into them, but do not consider them to be of great significance,&quot; Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said yesterday.

&quot;At best, they were based on anecdotal accounts of very limited information,&quot; he added, declining to reveal whether the feds were investigating.

The News obtained copies of two E-mails, one with the foreboding subject line: &quot;Alarming call from Washington.&quot; Unsigned versions were also posted on Snopes.com, a site that examines urban legends.

One of the E-mail senders, when reached by The News, declined comment.

The plot, calling for terrorists to detonate bombs hidden in briefcases, suitcases or strollers, has been largely discredited since the public warning.

Bloomberg has defended his response, arguing the city had no choice but to act on the &quot;specific threat.&quot; He has said he held off alerting the public until Oct.6 to give authorities time to round up suspects in Iraq.


 

Originally published on October 13, 2005</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terror tip for rich </p>
<p>E-mails warned bigs of city attack</p>
<p>By ALISON GENDAR<br />
DAILY NEWS POLICE BUREAU CHIEF </p>
<p>Cop guards downtown Broad St. subway station Monday as New Yorkersâ€™ nerves are frayed by terror warning.  </p>
<p>The city&#8217;s rich and well-connected were tipped off to last week&#8217;s subway terror threat days before average New Yorkers, the Daily News has learned.<br />
At least two E-mails revealing the purported plot were sent to a select crowd of business and arts executives early last week by New Yorkers who claimed to have close connections to Homeland Security and other federal officials, authorities said.</p>
<p>The NYPD confirmed that it learned of the E-mails on Oct. 3 &#8211; three days before Mayor Bloomberg, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly and the FBI went public with the threat.</p>
<p>&#8220;I have just received a most disturbing call from one of my oldest friends from growing up in Washington,&#8221; one E-mail began. &#8220;He called with a very specific caution to not enter or use the New York City subway system from Oct. 7 through 10th.&#8221;</p>
<p>A second E-mail sounded a similar ominous tone: &#8220;As some of you know my father works for Homeland Security, at a very high position and receives security briefings on a daily basis.</p>
<p>&#8220;The only information that I can pass on is that everyone should at all costs not ride the subway for the next two weeks in major areas of NYC.&#8221;</p>
<p>One of the E-mails was dated Oct. 3 with a 6:05 p.m. time stamp, about 90 minutes before Bloomberg was fully briefed on the threat, a police source said.</p>
<p>The early warning infuriated several police officials, who noted that Homeland Security officials had challenged the credibility of the threat after the city and FBI warned the public.</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re briefing the mayor, ratcheting up security, talking about when to go public &#8211; and Homeland Security is downplaying the whole thing while their people are telling friends to stay out of the subways,&#8221; a police source said. &#8220;It&#8217;s pretty bad.&#8221;</p>
<p>NYPD investigators obtained copies of the E-mails on Oct. 4, as Bloomberg and Kelly were finalizing a plan to respond to the threat, and police officials gave the E-mails to the Homeland Security Department, police said.</p>
<p>&#8216;Members of our corporate security network informed the Police Department of the E-mails&#8217; existence days prior to any announcement of the threat,&#8221; NYPD Deputy Commissioner Paul Browne said yesterday.</p>
<p>Homeland Security officials confirmed that they were told about the early E-mail warnings.</p>
<p>&#8220;We have looked into them, but do not consider them to be of great significance,&#8221; Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said yesterday.</p>
<p>&#8220;At best, they were based on anecdotal accounts of very limited information,&#8221; he added, declining to reveal whether the feds were investigating.</p>
<p>The News obtained copies of two E-mails, one with the foreboding subject line: &#8220;Alarming call from Washington.&#8221; Unsigned versions were also posted on Snopes.com, a site that examines urban legends.</p>
<p>One of the E-mail senders, when reached by The News, declined comment.</p>
<p>The plot, calling for terrorists to detonate bombs hidden in briefcases, suitcases or strollers, has been largely discredited since the public warning.</p>
<p>Bloomberg has defended his response, arguing the city had no choice but to act on the &#8220;specific threat.&#8221; He has said he held off alerting the public until Oct.6 to give authorities time to round up suspects in Iraq.</p>
<p>Originally published on October 13, 2005<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=257285', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they are still funding loanes to other countries, how is that possible when you&#039;re bancrupt yourself???!!!
It is time to hit the streets!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they are still funding loanes to other countries, how is that possible when you&#8217;re bancrupt yourself???!!!<br />
It is time to hit the streets!!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=257262', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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