issued by the Department of Defense, jumps to 2245. That’s an increase of 135 over a few days ago. UPDATE: The document has been changed and now the count is back to 2106. (Via Left Coaster)
The best explanation over in the comments at Atrios is that they double-counted the deaths during the Invasion into the post-invasion toll. It sucks that cared enough to notice the error (what’s an extra hundred and thirty these days?), but it’s most likely clerical right now.
I’ve heard that the real death toll is much higher. But have been unable to find out if it’s true or not.
Does the DOD really only count people who die on the “battlefield” and _not_ count those who die outside of Iraq (perhaps on the airplane heading out)? If so, then maybe the claims of higher numbers are true.
Huh? I followed the link to the DoD site and according to the list there the number is 2106. Where did the 2245 come from? Not from the link… Something smells like rotting lutefisk.
Boy, we’re really safe! We have a defense department which is incapable of updating a web page for more than an hour? Perhaps that explains why they could not find four airplanes after their transponders shut down. Whatever happened to RADAR?
Does anyone trust any number about anything provided by anyone within the Bush administration?
I don’t. I watch in horror as these numbers rise but I don’t for a minute imagine that they are correct, but for the general trend upward.
Once when I was a teacher in a major northeastern city school system we were told the good news that the dropout rate had fallen by roughly half in a single year. Politicians made great hay from this success and the media went along with the little feel-good session. Only later did we find out that the reason the dropout rate went down was that kids who didn’t show up for the first day of class and never attended afterward were re-classified as “no-shows” rather than dropouts.
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Mental midgets and trolls should be banned from blogs. Can’t the web master filter out this trash? It does show a purpose in a way. It shows that there are lower life forms.
Nothing this administration does or says is to be trusted. What i want to know ,what really happened to the colonel found death after reporting corruption and overcharching and killings by private security services . That sounds fishy , for his ethical behaviour ,outstanding morals and religious beliefs are totally against the possibilities of suicide as claimed ….
#17 — are you speaking of the tragic story of the 44 year old military ethics professor who after four months in Iraq, left a suicide note, wherein he wrote of the lies, corruption, and other things being committed by the contractors and other military personnel that he could not remedy, nor condone. I have heard only sketchy details.
Cheney’s office, Rumsfeld aides and others argued “that the president of the United States is all-powerful, that as commander in chief the president of the United States can do anything he damn well pleases,” Wilkerson said.
This blind arrogance has destroyed american credibility and our image in the world. In the end, karma will get the republicans for their evil…
Yes Marie , the same . A tragic story, an honnest man trying to serve his country the way he saw it . Poor soul he did not know he was at the service of the gravy train and all those liars typified by every sob in the admistration and all the f…g bastards in congress that go along with this game.
Meanwhile Rove is trying to fix the illegal alien problem. Score some “easy points” I guess.
November 28th, 2005 at 3:15 pmDid they reclassify some KIAs or something? What’s the explanation?
November 28th, 2005 at 3:23 pmThe best explanation over in the comments at Atrios is that they double-counted the deaths during the Invasion into the post-invasion toll. It sucks that cared enough to notice the error (what’s an extra hundred and thirty these days?), but it’s most likely clerical right now.
November 28th, 2005 at 3:26 pmIt could be either an early or a late clerical error. It should be closer to zero.
November 28th, 2005 at 3:31 pmThey’ll salt the deaths into the count until we’re actually about where it should be. Somwhere in the 5-8000 range.
November 28th, 2005 at 3:41 pmThey’ll salt the deaths into the count until we’re actually about where it should be. Somwhere in the 5-8000 range.
November 28th, 2005 at 3:41 pmI’ve heard that the real death toll is much higher. But have been unable to find out if it’s true or not.
Does the DOD really only count people who die on the “battlefield” and _not_ count those who die outside of Iraq (perhaps on the airplane heading out)? If so, then maybe the claims of higher numbers are true.
November 28th, 2005 at 3:46 pmThose who die on airplanes are classified as wounded and expiring due to air sickness.
November 28th, 2005 at 3:52 pmtomz, please forgive my ignorance. what are you talking about?
November 28th, 2005 at 3:52 pmHuh? I followed the link to the DoD site and according to the list there the number is 2106. Where did the 2245 come from? Not from the link… Something smells like rotting lutefisk.
November 28th, 2005 at 4:06 pmThey fixed it. I checked the link earlier and it
November 28th, 2005 at 4:12 pmwas 2245. Now it is 2106.
tomz, I believe you’ve posted these numbers before, can you back them up?
November 28th, 2005 at 4:26 pmLooks like it has been corrected.
Refersh the link and the numbers are down to 2106.
November 28th, 2005 at 4:37 pmBoy, we’re really safe! We have a defense department which is incapable of updating a web page for more than an hour? Perhaps that explains why they could not find four airplanes after their transponders shut down. Whatever happened to RADAR?
November 28th, 2005 at 4:58 pmDoes anyone trust any number about anything provided by anyone within the Bush administration?
I don’t. I watch in horror as these numbers rise but I don’t for a minute imagine that they are correct, but for the general trend upward.
Once when I was a teacher in a major northeastern city school system we were told the good news that the dropout rate had fallen by roughly half in a single year. Politicians made great hay from this success and the media went along with the little feel-good session. Only later did we find out that the reason the dropout rate went down was that kids who didn’t show up for the first day of class and never attended afterward were re-classified as “no-shows” rather than dropouts.
Draw a parallel, if drawing is your thing.
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November 28th, 2005 at 5:36 pm#16 -
November 28th, 2005 at 8:12 pmMental midgets and trolls should be banned from blogs. Can’t the web master filter out this trash? It does show a purpose in a way. It shows that there are lower life forms.
Nothing this administration does or says is to be trusted. What i want to know ,what really happened to the colonel found death after reporting corruption and overcharching and killings by private security services . That sounds fishy , for his ethical behaviour ,outstanding morals and religious beliefs are totally against the possibilities of suicide as claimed ….
November 28th, 2005 at 8:51 pm#17 — are you speaking of the tragic story of the 44 year old military ethics professor who after four months in Iraq, left a suicide note, wherein he wrote of the lies, corruption, and other things being committed by the contractors and other military personnel that he could not remedy, nor condone. I have heard only sketchy details.
November 28th, 2005 at 8:59 pmCheney’s office, Rumsfeld aides and others argued “that the president of the United States is all-powerful, that as commander in chief the president of the United States can do anything he damn well pleases,” Wilkerson said.
This blind arrogance has destroyed american credibility and our image in the world. In the end, karma will get the republicans for their evil…
November 28th, 2005 at 9:08 pm#16 -
November 28th, 2005 at 9:42 pmThanks benevolent web master. Now we just need to renumber all of the threads.
Yes Marie , the same . A tragic story, an honnest man trying to serve his country the way he saw it . Poor soul he did not know he was at the service of the gravy train and all those liars typified by every sob in the admistration and all the f…g bastards in congress that go along with this game.
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