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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sept 11th happened - please accept that. 
Comment by danny k â€” November 30, 2005 @ 11:44 am&lt;/i&gt;

I watched on the news. Accepted.

&lt;i&gt;If we lose in Iraq, we will embolden terrorists who would 10 Sept 11ths to happen in America.
Comment by danny k â€” November 30, 2005 @ 11:44 am&lt;/i&gt;

Who is &quot;we&#039;? How do you measure success? How do you know failure will embolden anyone? Have you talked to them? Do you have information the rest of us don&#039;t?

&lt;i&gt;The leftâ€™s inability to connect the dots between the first Iraq war - where we left a mad man in power to gas his own people - to hatred against America that allowed 9/11 to happen is sad. 
Comment by danny k â€” November 30, 2005 @ 11:44 am&lt;/i&gt;

You do know Hussein&#039;s regime had nothing to do with 9/11, yes? What do you think fuels the hatred against the US? How do you connect the dots between the first Iraq war and 9/11?

&lt;i&gt;Liberals are truly ignorant people who are in denial.
Comment by danny k â€” November 30, 2005 @ 11:44 am&lt;/i&gt;

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Comment by danny k â€” November 30, 2005 @ 11:44 am</i></p>
<p>I watched on the news. Accepted.</p>
<p><i>If we lose in Iraq, we will embolden terrorists who would 10 Sept 11ths to happen in America.<br />
Comment by danny k â€” November 30, 2005 @ 11:44 am</i></p>
<p>Who is &#8220;we&#8217;? How do you measure success? How do you know failure will embolden anyone? Have you talked to them? Do you have information the rest of us don&#8217;t?</p>
<p><i>The leftâ€™s inability to connect the dots between the first Iraq war &#8211; where we left a mad man in power to gas his own people &#8211; to hatred against America that allowed 9/11 to happen is sad.<br />
Comment by danny k â€” November 30, 2005 @ 11:44 am</i></p>
<p>You do know Hussein&#8217;s regime had nothing to do with 9/11, yes? What do you think fuels the hatred against the US? How do you connect the dots between the first Iraq war and 9/11?</p>
<p><i>Liberals are truly ignorant people who are in denial.<br />
Comment by danny k â€” November 30, 2005 @ 11:44 am</i></p>
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		<description>Thanks Myles, yes, even here in conservative thinking Montana we elected a Dem to back to governor (of course the previous Rep governor Judy Martz soured us all with her unscrupulous business dealings and Bush-like intellect).  It does leave hope that people can even see beyond party lines and just use their heads when it comes to common sense political action.</description>
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		<title>By: Myles Marcovitch</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 18:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t lose hope. I was the campaign manager for the first time that two Dems were elected to our town&#039;s board of supervisors in longer than anyone can remember. The last time there was one dem on the five person board with at the end of the 1980s. 

But it gets better. Two more dems were elected to the board of the neighboring township. They now have three out of five and a simple majority. These towns are Newtown and Lower Makefield Townships in Bucks County, PA. 

But it still gets better; Yardley boro which is next to Lower Makefield, just elected their first Democratic mayor and council in a zillion years. 

These are Republican strongholds folks. In all cases our people couldn&#039;t have been elected unless Republicans crossed over and voted for them. They are finally getting pissed off at the losers in Washington. Maybe the national repubs aren&#039;t worried about losing the congress in 2006, but I&#039;ve got another opinion. From the looks of our bellweather community, it is very possible.

We&#039;re getting out act together at the local level. That&#039;s where all of this starts. We&#039;re beginning to win local elections. Next comes the rousing defeat of Rick Santorum (that lunatic) and then we&#039;ll be ready for 2008. All politics are local. Stop blogging and complaining. Get oof your ass and do something on the local level. Take over councils and committees. Get your volunteer networks geared up for the big one in 2008. Run elections, knock on doors and win.

After Kerry winning in Bucks County and in PA, we had more people fired up and working than ever before. We&#039;ve tapped into that energy and are using it to win local elections.

Just do it and stop talking about it!
Myles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t lose hope. I was the campaign manager for the first time that two Dems were elected to our town&#8217;s board of supervisors in longer than anyone can remember. The last time there was one dem on the five person board with at the end of the 1980s. </p>
<p>But it gets better. Two more dems were elected to the board of the neighboring township. They now have three out of five and a simple majority. These towns are Newtown and Lower Makefield Townships in Bucks County, PA. </p>
<p>But it still gets better; Yardley boro which is next to Lower Makefield, just elected their first Democratic mayor and council in a zillion years. </p>
<p>These are Republican strongholds folks. In all cases our people couldn&#8217;t have been elected unless Republicans crossed over and voted for them. They are finally getting pissed off at the losers in Washington. Maybe the national repubs aren&#8217;t worried about losing the congress in 2006, but I&#8217;ve got another opinion. From the looks of our bellweather community, it is very possible.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re getting out act together at the local level. That&#8217;s where all of this starts. We&#8217;re beginning to win local elections. Next comes the rousing defeat of Rick Santorum (that lunatic) and then we&#8217;ll be ready for 2008. All politics are local. Stop blogging and complaining. Get oof your ass and do something on the local level. Take over councils and committees. Get your volunteer networks geared up for the big one in 2008. Run elections, knock on doors and win.</p>
<p>After Kerry winning in Bucks County and in PA, we had more people fired up and working than ever before. We&#8217;ve tapped into that energy and are using it to win local elections.</p>
<p>Just do it and stop talking about it!<br />
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		<dc:creator>Stephanie R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>comment by Tony:

&quot;a more incompetent opposition party could not be found any where else on this sad earth..........&quot;

&lt;blockquote&gt;I think you have something there.  I come from
one of the most liberal and compassionate states in the Union,
Vermont.  Here, we can pick up the phone and talk to the leader of the Democratic party at any time day or night.  Howard Dean was our governor.  I used to send e-mail messages directly to my Senators and Congressmen, thinking they were going to actually do something about what is happening in Washington.  Well, I did get replies, but I stopped writing when Sen. Patrick Leahy wrote back to tell me his position; wait for the election(Bush vs. Dean-sorry Kerry), let
the American people decide whether we should make Bush
accountable.  I waited and nothing happened.  Then, I couldn&#039;t help it, Bush  put forward his Supreme Court nominee,
John Roberts.  I had to call Pat.  I called Pat, Jim, and Bernie.
This time I didn&#039;t get a reply, until later, after the vote.  I received  form letters from Pat and Jim explaining why they
went against their party and voted for Bush&#039;s man.  Pat even said he had voted for Scalia in the past and &quot;may have been
mistaken about him&quot;, but he was sure Roberts would be fair.
Well, I guess we can wait and see how Roberts does and judge
Patrick&#039;s instinct later, much later and longer, perhaps a generation longer.&#039;
The next thing I did was follow Move-ons suggestion to call
my Congressman to ask him to register an ethics complaint against Ney, Frist, and others.  Only one complaint was required to break the Ethics Committee&#039;s Logjam on reviewing
their own members records.  Well, Bernie&#039;s staffer cordially
recorded my request, and said she would relay the urgency
of the matter.  Bernie was in Vermont, but she wouldn&#039;t give
me his number.  No reply.  And Bernie is running for the
Senate seat Jim is giving up.  

Where does this leave those of us who live in a small state and
think we can actually make a difference.  What has happened to Democrats who can&#039;t seem to act with conviction on behalf
of their constituents.  Damned disillusioned, we are.  We light
candles in the wind, and pray for the killing to stop.  If our
elected representatives cannot even stick with their own party,
listen to their views, and act accordingly, what can we expect
from Republicans, who have no morals or scruples by definition and will do anything they can get away with?

Howard Dean is a different kind of politician.  That is why he
has been villified by his own party.  I still cannot see what
was wrong with his deeply felt scream.  Are we so afraid of
action that we cannot stomach an impromptu moment?  We should have united behind that scream and pushed Howard on
to victory.  What is wrong with the Democrats?  Maybe we are
cowards.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>comment by Tony:</p>
<p>&#8220;a more incompetent opposition party could not be found any where else on this sad earth&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>I think you have something there.  I come from<br />
one of the most liberal and compassionate states in the Union,<br />
Vermont.  Here, we can pick up the phone and talk to the leader of the Democratic party at any time day or night.  Howard Dean was our governor.  I used to send e-mail messages directly to my Senators and Congressmen, thinking they were going to actually do something about what is happening in Washington.  Well, I did get replies, but I stopped writing when Sen. Patrick Leahy wrote back to tell me his position; wait for the election(Bush vs. Dean-sorry Kerry), let<br />
the American people decide whether we should make Bush<br />
accountable.  I waited and nothing happened.  Then, I couldn&#8217;t help it, Bush  put forward his Supreme Court nominee,<br />
John Roberts.  I had to call Pat.  I called Pat, Jim, and Bernie.<br />
This time I didn&#8217;t get a reply, until later, after the vote.  I received  form letters from Pat and Jim explaining why they<br />
went against their party and voted for Bush&#8217;s man.  Pat even said he had voted for Scalia in the past and &#8220;may have been<br />
mistaken about him&#8221;, but he was sure Roberts would be fair.<br />
Well, I guess we can wait and see how Roberts does and judge<br />
Patrick&#8217;s instinct later, much later and longer, perhaps a generation longer.&#8217;<br />
The next thing I did was follow Move-ons suggestion to call<br />
my Congressman to ask him to register an ethics complaint against Ney, Frist, and others.  Only one complaint was required to break the Ethics Committee&#8217;s Logjam on reviewing<br />
their own members records.  Well, Bernie&#8217;s staffer cordially<br />
recorded my request, and said she would relay the urgency<br />
of the matter.  Bernie was in Vermont, but she wouldn&#8217;t give<br />
me his number.  No reply.  And Bernie is running for the<br />
Senate seat Jim is giving up.  </p>
<p>Where does this leave those of us who live in a small state and<br />
think we can actually make a difference.  What has happened to Democrats who can&#8217;t seem to act with conviction on behalf<br />
of their constituents.  Damned disillusioned, we are.  We light<br />
candles in the wind, and pray for the killing to stop.  If our<br />
elected representatives cannot even stick with their own party,<br />
listen to their views, and act accordingly, what can we expect<br />
from Republicans, who have no morals or scruples by definition and will do anything they can get away with?</p>
<p>Howard Dean is a different kind of politician.  That is why he<br />
has been villified by his own party.  I still cannot see what<br />
was wrong with his deeply felt scream.  Are we so afraid of<br />
action that we cannot stomach an impromptu moment?  We should have united behind that scream and pushed Howard on<br />
to victory.  What is wrong with the Democrats?  Maybe we are<br />
cowards.</p></blockquote>
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