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On Today Show, O’Reilly Compares Murtha With Hitler Sympathizers»

Bill O’Reilly on the Today Show this morning:

These pin-heads running around going, “Get out of Iraq now” don’t know what they are talking about. These are the same people before Hitler invaded in WWII that were saying, “He’s not such a bad guy.” They don’t get it.

Watch it:

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Of course, the most prominent person calling for withdrawing from Iraq now is decorated Vietnam veteran Rep. Jack Murtha.




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448 Responses to “On Today Show, O’Reilly Compares Murtha With Hitler Sympathizers”

  1. Pete Bogs Says:

    he’s got his own damn show - don’t invite him onto yours, Katie! ps: I’d be careful - he may be trying to look up your skirt… he may pull the old “dropped my pen” routine….


  2. Quisp Says:

    I’m sure that Bill is drawing upon his decades of direct military experience.


  3. jackfate Says:

    Sieg Heil!!! (sp?)


  4. Locke Says:

    Damn, is there no other “evil” we can compare to? Like Barney? Or Am-Way?


  5. Str8UpNoChaser Says:

    *Doing the math*

    Hmmmm it just doesn’t add up. I’m 32 Bill. I wasn’t around to make any comments about Hitler. Neither were a big percentage of folks that support troop redeployment.

    Is anyone else weirded out by his constant Hitler references? Does he have a Nazi fetish or what? Creepy.


  6. Erroll Says:

    Quisp-

    I echo your sentiments. This has to be the height of hypocrisy for someone like O’Reilly to question the patriotism of those who question the policies of the government while O’Reilly mysteriously managed to avoid putting on a military uniform and ending up on the front lines in Vietnam. He is doing the same thing he did after the U.S. invaded Iraq, saying that he would “spotlight” anyone, like Barbra Streisand, who would have the temerity to question the wisdom of the government taking this country to war. Of course, Couric allows him to say these things without challenging the veracity of O’Reilly’s statements.


  7. Jay Says:

    Seems like every day O’Doofus comes up with another moronic statement for his enemies on the left to crucify (he’d like that word) him with, he doesn’t know when to shut his fascist mouth.

    A wise person once told me that “empty vessels make the most noise.” How true.


  8. Chris in AZ Says:

    Stop posting BOR crap, he is not worth the attention he craves!


  9. liberal elite Says:

    I’m with Chris. Tell Bill O’Reilly to take a number!



  10. buzzbike Says:

    Gee, weren’t some of the more notable Nazi sympathizers prior to the US involvement in WWII, members of the Bush, Mellon, and Scaife families, to name a few? Families/people that today write a lot of blank checks to support right wing/fundamentalist think tanks, which also create and furnish a lot of information and opinion to O’Reilly and the Bush White House?

    If I wanted to listen to a turd speak, I would install a telephone in my toilet. I’m all for the 1st Amendment, but if ever there was an argument FOR abortion…it’s Bill O’Reilly and his ilk.


  11. mighty aphrodite Says:

    The “Neville Chamberlain/Joseph P. Kennedy” mentality is reproduced every generation. Mercifully, not many are afflicted with this lethal disease. I have been wondering since last night if the poor, kidnapped Christian “peace workers” have been able to negotiate with their captors?? (Hopefully, they fell into the hands of ransom seekers and not radical Islamofascists.) The lesson here? Maybe it’s best to leave dealing with kidnappers and killers to the professionals.


  12. SpudgeBoy Says:

    Here, let me straighten that out for you Bill.

    The people who think that the illegal pre-emptive strike on Iraq are the same type of people who thought an illegal pre-emptive strike on Poland was bad.


  13. justoneperson Says:

    Gosh;could we please just not give this nut job anymore publicity.I now know why I never watch the today show………..god Katie; get a real job will you?


  14. katy Says:

    hey, he DID say one thing that, i think, we all can agree with: he wonders why it’s taking 2 years to get the iraq army trained, why aren’t they ALREADY trained?!? he was very agitated…

    then he went and spouted off with this “pin-head” remark…

    and no mention of “the list” that msnbc is on…


  15. hardass Says:

    I lived thru the same era that O’Silly’s talking about /
    He sounds more and more like Geobels , Hitler’s propaganda minister . May be his ambition to replace that position at the WH . He should be careful , he may end up as a war criminal and suffer the same fate .


  16. mighty aphrodite Says:

    Sponge - Your Poland comparison (clever reichwing stuff, but ignorant) is like comparing bagels and borscht.



  17. Dick (no, not that one) Says:

    Who books guests on “Today”? Bill O’Reilly as a military expert? The only weapon he’s ever wielded is a falafel. Why not get an actual military expert like, oh, I don’t know, a colonel with 27 years in the Marines? Or how about Brent Scowcroft, or Gen. Shineski, or Larry Wilkerson or somebody who actually has a freakin’ clue. I know, how about Al Franken, he’s actually been to Iraq a number of times?


  18. freedom is not free! Says:

    You know, I am beginning to Like Communists as long as it pisses people like BOR Off!
    Besides, Chinese have a Cute innocent look on thier faces. they are sorta charming


  19. ahem Says:

    These are the same people before Hitler invaded in WWII that were saying, “He’s not such a bad guy.”

    Like Prescott Bush, you mean?


  20. kindness Says:

    Now let us be honest. Mighty pain in the aphrodite - what, you don’t like the naming of prominent republican Oligarch clans (Bush, Scaife, Mellon) who went out of their way to try to continue to reap profits off of nazi germany so you throw in a Kennedy. Well, Kennedy might not have been a vigilent anti nazi but it’s my understanding that his clan made their money cleanly - by importing booze from Canada during the prohibition. Are you equating that with business with nazi’s by giving them the means to wreck havoc on the rest of Europe/Russia with oil? A curious point to be claiming some tangible superiority, isn’t it?

    O’Liely should be examined thoroughly when he says nutjob things like this. And he should be inextricably linked to the right wing nuts that currently run the Republican party.


  21. yankeluh Says:

    After putting MSNBC on his enemies list why is NBC giving this f*** any airtime?


  22. freedom is not free! Says:

    “They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

    Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit, and the poison of asps is under their lips.Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness

    Their feet are swift to shed blood:

    Destruction and misery are in their ways:

    And the way of peace have they not known….”

    Romans 3:12


  23. Average TV Viewer Says:

    Is “Pinhead” a professional term?


  24. greg wirth Says:

    Yes, well O’Reilly is today’s version of Joseph Goebbels.


  25. A REAL FATHER! Says:

    You know, I am beginning to Like Communists as long as it pisses people like BOR Off!
    Besides, Chinese have a Cute innocent look on thier faces. they are sorta charming !


  26. zerohundred Says:

    “These pin-heads running around going, “Stay in Iraq forever” don’t know what they are talking about. These are the same people before Bush invaded Iraq that were saying, “He’s not such a bad guy.” They don’t get it.”


  27. afterthought Says:

    I’m thinking BO should get lots and lots
    of publicity in all the MSM. He makes the
    Right look so whack-job it can only help
    wake people up.
    Still, TP could ignore him as a complete
    nutball.


  28. Blue Demon Says:

    Speaking of Falafel Bill’s enemies list, he has The NY Daily News on it-which regularly runs his syndicated column!


  29. Average TV Viewer Says:

    MA,

    If I’ve noticed anything about you it is that you are just cryptic enough that you absolve yourself of real debate. You think it’s intellectualism. It showcases itself as hyped opinion. Either crap or get off the pot already.


  30. Mike Says:

    What Hitler invasion is he talking about? Cechoslovakia? Poland? France? Russia? The U.S. did nothing asbout these invasions thanks to peoble like Henry Ford, Joseph Kennedy and oh yea Prescott Bush. The only people caling for a war against Fasism befor an invasion were the Reds, that went to Spain to fight agains Franco, Hitler and Mussolini. They were then not allowed to fight in WWII because they were prematurly anti-fascist.


  31. afterthought Says:

    Average TV Viewer,

    Yeah, that has become a pretty steady
    pattern with MA. Ryan can get he/she (?, really - I don’t know)
    quite riled up at times.


  32. Ohio 2nd » Bill O’Reilly Trumps Schmidt Says:

    […] Coward?!! Try Nazi sympathizer. […]


  33. Cathy Carlberg Says:

    O’Reilly has no true conviction because he’s paid huge amounts of money and whatever else to reflect the sentiments of the neocons. What is more disturbing is that his opinions are given credence by The Today Show. He will continue his mercenary thing as long as he is provided an audience. Let’s just say “NO” to anyone that airs this ridiculous person.


  34. Sylvia Zimmer Says:

    # 3
    spelling correct. *g*


  35. Quisp Says:

    I had submitted my name to be included on Bill’s Enemies List, and alas it’s only corporate entities as of now. I feel hurt and ignored. I’m going to go eat some Nazi chocolate, that will cheer me up.


  36. Average TV Viewer Says:

    MA’s schtick seems most of the time to be deliberate setups by progressives. Softballs. I don’t get it.


  37. cynical ex-hippie Says:

    “You know, I am beginning to Like Communists as long as it pisses people like BOR Off!”

    That’s exactly how Communism spread in Central America. The government strongmen were denouncing all their enemies (i.e. anyone who criticized them) as communiststs. After a while, people started thinking, “If these jerks don’t like communists, then I’ll be a communist too!” They didn’t necessarily believe in communism, they just saw that teachers, scientists, clergy, and other pillars of society were being labeled, and wanted to share that label.

    In what must be bitter irony for Reagan fans, communism began its decline only after Congress cut off military aid to the anti-communist dictators.


  38. 7 Says:

    A- Hitler declaired war on us, we didnt declair war on Germany. BOR needs to hit some history books
    B - Most of the people against the war were not around in 1936. So how can this be the “same people”?


  39. SpudgeBoy Says:

    #17

    “Sponge - Your Poland comparison (clever reichwing stuff, but ignorant) is like comparing bagels and borscht.”

    Actually, it is right on the money, but you are a retarded asswipe that doesn’t know you head from you asshole. Fvck you bitch.


  40. Zippy the Other Pinhead Says:

    I’m just thrilled that O’Liely actually used my S/N on national TV!! I guess that means I’m on his Enemies List — happy happy, joy joy!

    I guess it wasn’t bad enough that the Today show has been channelling the repugs over the last several months more and more; now they invite this bugger on… More reason to switch to ESPN’s Cold Pizza for the morning “newsertainment”, I guess…


  41. Zookeeper Says:

    My computer won’t play the video, stupid thing.
    What was cute little Katie’s response to BO’s pearl of wisdom? A giggle, right?


  42. El Perro Patron Says:

    What do you expect from a retard? You get what you get with O’Reilly. That’s his shtick. That’s what the knuckle-dragging morons who make up his audience want to see. Its theater for the brain-dead.

    Inviting O’Reilly onto a show and expecting him not to make some outrageous ignorant comment is like inviting a dog into your home and expecting him not to shed.


  43. Joe Sixpack Says:

    I must have missed the Today show starring the rightwing hero and former-draftdodger, Bill O’Reilly. I must have been pissing beer and watching “Crank Yankers” or something.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but Bill has not been to Iraq since Bush sent the troops there to spread “freedom”
    so he must be basing his conclusions on the Faux News Talking Points he and Hannity both get daily.


  44. Enough Is Enough Says:

    When will somebody respond - on the air - to this cretin with a ‘You really are a vile piece of s**t, aren’t you?…Why don’t you just leave? We’ll get along without you quite well, thank you.’

    C’mon, will someone please put this guy in his place and keep him there.


  45. Brian Says:

    In response to comment #12
    If Pat Robertson and such were not sending terrorists into foreign contries under the disguise of “Christian” peace keapers, the real honest good hearted people would not be kidnapped by desperate people trying to keap the gready golobalists from destroying their counties and enslaving the population so fat heads like you can get cheap mechandise at Wal-Mart etc.


  46. Jesus Christ God of WAR Says:

    There was a wonderful This Modern World comic in today’s paper. Two people in a car. Passenger repeatedly warning of danger ahead. Driver saying he had a map and knew where he was going. Of course they drive off the end of the cliff.

    Punch line: The driver faults the passenger for wanting him to fail.

    Sound familiar?

    Bottom Line: Bush Apologists == Retards


  47. jjjj Says:

    ah..and here’s Joe Liebermann…former Democrat, on MSNBC with Don Imus, spouting his strangely REPUKE doctrine, as set forth in the WSJ Yesterday…what is going on? Do the Repubs want to really repudiate Murtha, their hangdog military wannabe? But do it with Joey ? IS that even logical?


  48. sfpinko Says:

    He is the Jack of Hearts!

    http://www.chickenhawkcards.com/


  49. Mme flutterbye Says:

    He’s on the TODAY SHOW because , like Coulter and Hannity, he’ll draw certain kinds of listeners who are easily seduced by the commercials. It has nothing to do with anything he says. It’s the commercials that air between his remarks that are important to NBC. It’s not amazing to me anymore what the media will do for money money money money money! Look at Woodward et al.


  50. joey jojo Says:

    Why must people always have to put someome down in order to make themselves look bigger, leave Hitler alone already!


  51. Joe Sixpack Says:

    Some of you liberals would ask, “What credibility does this pervert have regarding Iraq.” Yes, as a rightwing liberal I’ll be one of the first to admit that he is a “pinhead” draftdodger turned armchair warrior and lowdown womanizing sexual deviant. That said, I’ll leave it to aphrodite to defend him.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but he is one of the original defenders for Bush’s military action against Iraq, who said continously, “If we don’t find weapons of mass destruction, I’ll be one of the first to apologize.”

    On a serious note: what’s with that great big turkey neck hanging down under Bill’s chin? Has he got gout or something?


  52. Granite State Destroyer Says:

    Hey Dildo O’Rielly,

    Do you think Hitler ever sexually harassed Eva Braun over the telephone? Also, do you think Hitler ever used a vibrator on his own ass?

    -GSD


  53. tomaig Says:

    the real honest good hearted people would not be kidnapped by desperate people trying to keap the gready golobalists from destroying their counties and enslaving the population so fat heads like you can get cheap mechandise at Wal-Mart etc.

    Comment by Brian — November 30, 2005 @ 11:15 am

    “We don’t need no edyu-caytion…we don’t need no thowt control”, right, Brian?


  54. mighty aphrodite Says:

    #22 - No, Blindness, I “didn’t throw in a Kennedy” - but he was such a clumsy target (along with Charles Lindberg). The patriarch of the Kennedys not only profitted from his company’s boot legging but also shady stock dealings. THAT should strike terror in the hearts of anti-capitalists EVERYWHERE!!

    Regarding Prescott Bush - I have found prog ideologues rarely influenced by the facts. So for the few curious liberal minds out there, visit http://www.em.wikipedia.org/Prescott_Bush#Nazi.ties. (Oh well, whether you are a Kennedy, a Bush, a Rockefeller, etc. there is usually a “pirate” in every corporate closet.) There are a host of prominent people and corporations (www.karenlyster.com/hitler) who went out of their way to keep America on the isolationist track promised repeatedly by FDR - or to profit from business ties with Nazi Germany. I simply added more to your point.

    Quick “q” - Since most cars and industry currently run on petroleum would you:
    a.) Try to use Mazola in your Prius - and carry a longer cord.
    b.) Let industry grind to a halt - Americans are too fat anyway!
    c.) NEVER open any new oil fields in the US - between Mazola and the thinning of America we CAN maintain a pristine ….(fill in the blank).


  55. The Witch Says:

    On a vaguely related note, has anyone here read “The Plot Against America” by Philip Roth? It’s an extremely thought-provoking book and really discusses the connotations on both sides.


  56. jim preston Says:

    What the hell is O’Reilly doing on the Today show? It is unthinkable that NBC would give him the credibility. I went along with him appearing on The Daily Show, as Jon Stewart pretty much made a fool of him:
    Stewart: One question, Why so angry?
    O’Reilly: There are a lot of bad people out there doing a lot of bad things. We’ve got to stop them.
    Stewart: So, when are you going to start on that?

    I don’t watch “Today”, but I am about ready to boycott NBC.


  57. Monkeyfister Says:

    Heh, let Bill the Terrorist Sympathizer say whatever he feels like slapping his gums about. The hole he’s digging for himself is almost deep enough for us to bury him.

    Keep digging, Bill!

    –mf


  58. danny k Says:

    Mad Murtha is a two-bit hit man for the left. He knows the media will follow anyone who has something negative to say about the war. (especially a Democrat war vet)

    But as people are seeing today with the health of the economy no longer in question by sane individuals, the liberal media has a tendancy to exaggerate negative events such as Katrina and of course, the war.

    America is a tough country and it’s a shame people like Murtha will so easily bet against it. Shame on Think Progress for cheering defeat.


  59. Average TV Viewer Says:

    Just put down the Twinkies Mighty Aphrodite and tell us about progress being made in Iraq.


  60. megisi Says:

    What do you get when you place Katie Couric and Billo on the same stage?

    Two morons trying to prove who’s the smartest kid in a two-student special ed class.

    Hint to Katie and The Loofah King: No one cares.

    What will be your reaction if the rumors are true and Couric is the next CBS Evening News anchor, occupying the same chair Waler Cronkite sat in? Laughter? Revulsion? Cynical detachment?

    As one of my colleagues said, “You can always trust someone after you’ve seen the inside of her ass.”


  61. Average TV Viewer Says:

    Same to you, danny. Describe the feel good stories coming out of free Iraq-and don’t say satellite dishes.


  62. Grrrr Says:

    For those of you who have seen “Good Night and Good Luck”, don’t O’Reilly and Joe McCarthy have similar physical characteristics and similar verbal styles?


  63. danny k Says:

    #63 - the liberation of millions of people is a start. Free democratic elections and HOPE that we can bring democracy to the middle east. The same democracy that gives you the right to lie about the President.

    #63 - what do you have against promoting democracy?


  64. TerrytheTurtle Says:

    Danny, wrong thread dude, your irrelevance is embarrasing for you. Why don’t you read the stuff about Bill and Katie and think of something to say. Go on, you can do it…


  65. mighty aphrodite Says:

    “That’s exactly how Communism spread in Central America. The government strongmen were denouncing all their enemies (i.e. anyone who criticized them) as communiststs. After a while, people started thinking, “If these jerks don’t like communists, then I’ll be a communist too!” They didn’t necessarily believe in communism, they just saw that teachers, scientists, clergy, and other pillars of society were being labeled, and wanted to share that label.”-
    Cynical Hippie

    Is this an eye-witness account, weak supposition, or interview info from Daniel Ortega? If Communism, ala Sandanista, was so appealing in Nicaragua, please tell me how Repubs “stole the election” for Violetta
    Chiammoro?


  66. TerrytheTurtle Says:

    Taking my own advice: I don’t agree that Bill has the same kind of talent of Goebbels - he’s not that clever.


  67. cynical ex-hippie Says:

    #56, as you know Kennedy was put in charge of building what is now the SEC. Clearly someone thought he knew what he was doing. And nobody today is so puritan as to consider bootleggers on par with Nazis.

    I can’t answer your multiple choice, but I can offer my own:

    a) Recognize that the oil will run out, regardless of what we do. Also, act like it.
    b) Conserve fuel today. The less we burn today, the more time we have to develop a viable alternative to petroleum.
    c) Put federal money into developing an alternative. The last major energy source developed was nuclear. That was from a massive government program. As it should be. You wouldn’t want a thousand private nuclear programs competing for profit would you? The next major new energy source will need to be at least as powerful.

    Finally, if you think liberals are anti-capitalists, I invite you to do business here. We can always use a new sucker. I love it when red state conservatives come here thinking they’re going to walk all over us. We’re the 5th largest economy in the world. We are better capitalists than most.


  68. mongoloid Bill Says:

    More of the same retarded inaccurate talking point strategy aimed at the dopey sheeple:
    Hitler/Fascism = the liberal left
    (a nice loud yawn)ooooohhhhohummm
    Damn!, BO looks really depressed all the time, even with all that make-up.


  69. Liberal Librarian Says:

    The right hates it when anyone points out the similarities between the Bush administration’s propaganda tactics and those employed by Joseph Goebbels, but they never miss an opportunity to compare people THEY disagree with to Hitler or the Nazis.


  70. TerrytheTurtle Says:

    You are off topic MA, what have you got to say about Katie and Bill?


  71. HOT! TIP! Says:

    Under the Radar

    IRAQ — PENTAGON PUTS OUT ‘COVERT PROPAGANDA’ IN IRAQ: Following the Education Department’s “covert propaganda” campaign in the United States, the Pentagon is now secretly paying Iraqi newspapers to publish stories — favorable to the United States — written by the U.S. military. But when published, these stories often are presented as “unbiased news accounts written and reported by independent journalists.” The stories contain quotes from anonymous military officials, and it is “unclear whether the quotes are authentic.” “Absolute truth was not an essential element of these stories,” said a senior military official. One newspaper that readily accepted the Pentagon’s newspapers was Al Mutamar, the newspaper run by associates of Ahmad Chalabi.

    MILITARY — ARMY TRIES TO REENLIST FORMER SOLDIERS: In an effort to meet their goal to enlist 80,000 soldiers this year, “the Army has a new offer: Join us and regain your old rank without repeating basic training.” The Army hopes to plug last year’s 7,000 soldier recruitment gap. “The Army previously had welcomed back former service members, but only under conditions that made it unattractive to most, namely that they would lose their prior rank and were required to take basic training again.” The new offer applies to all former soldiers who return to the Army after being out of uniform for fewer than five years.


  72. kindness Says:

    Zookeeper - wouldn’t we all have liked to have seen cute, perky little Katie pull a Shanon Stone/Basic Instinct move on Bill. The look on his face as he grabed his falafell would have been priceless.

    MA - you are an idiot. Didn’t you see I was making fun of your foolish ideas? I’m not about to try and “talk” to you because you are a moron. Not worth my time and bandwidth other than to cast stones at.


  73. gdgdgd Says:

    O’reilly is a tool.. he thrives on attention,


  74. sarcasm-impaired ASSOCIATION Says:

    cynical ex-hippie . where is “here?”
    where are you?


  75. cynical ex-hippie Says:

    #67 numerous interviews with refugees and others directly involved. FYI. You’re determined to misunderstand me, but I’ll say it again. If huge asshole calls every respectable person X, people will want to be called X. Don’t confuse opposition to death squads with support for communism. Was the archbishop a communist? Those poor unfortunate nuns? Remember when GHW Bush gave his assurance that his buddies were not involved in all that nastiness?


  76. dz Says:

    how ironic that he would use a hitler reference when the president’s own grandfather was a hitler supporter.. google ‘prescott bush hitler’

    the similarities between 9/11 and the reichstag fire are pretty eerie too.. both bush and hitler ended up with a war of agression against those that hadnt attacked them (called terrorists or communists at the time).. turned out that germans had set their own reichstag on fire to fuel the will for a war for agression.. the same will eventually be found to be true about 9/11..

    9/11 was an inside job, orchestrated by dick cheney through the use of 5 live fly wargames on the morning of 9/11, wake up people!


  77. cynical ex-hippie Says:

    #76 One of this country’s liberal strongholds. You know, the kind of place Bush and his supporters like to deride. Also, one of the economic powerhouses of the country.


  78. SpudgeBoy Says:

    #56

    “a.) Try to use Mazola in your Prius - and carry a longer cord.”

    This show what a retard you are. A Toyota Prius is not an electric car. It does not ever need to be plugged into an electrical outlet. It is a hybrid vehicle that generates electricity while it is going downhil and while it is braking. Stupid.


  79. danny k Says:

    #71 - the only fascists in modern day politics are the hit men on the left - Franken, Soros, MoveOn and Teddy Kennedy. They insist on Bush appointing judges that have a radical left-wing agenda. Anyone that falls short of that will be smeared.

    America knows who the real Joe McCarthys are today and that is why the Democratic Party is out of power.


  80. Gary Kleppe Says:

    If Communism, ala Sandanista, was so appealing in Nicaragua, please tell me how Repubs “stole the election” for Violetta
    Chiammoro?

    With bombings, death squads, and other acts of terrorism, making it clear that such acts would continue until they elected a leader friendly to US corporate interests.


  81. David West Says:

    If that chicken hawk Bill O’coward had not been such a chicken hawk and served his country he wouldnt go around calling the brave people who served pin heads. The biggest pin head of all is Bill O’Reilly !!!!!!!


  82. mighty aphrodite Says:

    #61 - “Just put down the Twinkies Mighty Aphrodite and tell us about progress being made in Iraq.
    Comment by Average Pessimess”

    ****I hate Twinkies - but I think Susan has a few dozen left. Guess you missed the part about children being vaccinated, schools opening, political debate taking place, trials proceeding against Saddam and his followers, Iraqi forces successfully protecting polling stations, increased number of batallions relying on less US military leadership and tactical planning… But like so many negative Chicken Littles, keep running around in circles shrieking, “The sky is falling!!! The sky is falling!!!!(Maybe you’ll work off a few Twinkie calories.)

    Now, kids, I’ll be gone most of the day - play nicely together. Sponge - your Mom said you need to use MORE VULGAR and colourful language - just like she taught you!!


  83. Gary Kleppe Says:

    America knows who the real Joe McCarthys are today and that is why the Democratic Party is out of power.

    Bullshit. The Democratic Party is out of power due to Republican vote fraud. No other reason.


  84. SpudgeBoy Says:

    “Mad Murtha is a two-bit hit man for the left.”

    Murtha is well respected by republican and democratic members of both the House and Senate. Time for you to look before you leap.

    “the liberal media has a tendancy to exaggerate negative events such as Katrina and of course, the war.”

    No exageration needed. Bush not showing support is what brought out the negatives. And that goes for the war and Katrina. No support from our leaders.

    “America is a tough country and it’s a shame people like Murtha will so easily bet against it.”

    Murtha is THE biggest supporter of our military than any other person in Washington they only people that don’t get that are the Bush administration and you.


  85. Ibis Says:

    If we were Hitler supporters we would support the policies of the Bush administration also.


  86. TerrytheTurtle Says:

    MA, I think the 1990 Nicaraugan elections may not have been free: they seem to have cost the CIA (and you, the American taxpayer) about $48m. Oh and the national intelligence budget is now beyond congressional oversight, nice eh?

    http://www.brianwillson.com/awolnicelection.html

    The Best Democracy Money Can Buy! Acknowledgements to Greg Palast.

    Sorry. I’ll get back on topic - I really can’t think of anything to say about Katie or Bill, but I won’t do a Danny K and foam at the mouth randomly…


  87. SpudgeBoy Says:

    #65

    “and HOPE that we can bring democracy to the middle east”

    Wow, a clear admission of faith based politics.

    I am HOPING that George Bush will choke on another pretzel. What er the odds of that? About the same as bringing democracy to the middle east. You see, they don’t want our brand of democracy. They have Islam. Are you gonna try and convert them awawy from Islam?


  88. Logic ≠ Elastic Heart » Blog Archive » Says:

    […] Bill O’Reilly compares decorated Vietnam veteran Rep. John Murtha to Hitler sympathizers on this morning’s Today Show. Says people who want to get out of Iraq now, “just don’t get it.”. So a decorated and respected veteran doesn’t understand war as well as draft dodgers, deferment seekers, and umm… Bill. […]


  89. Bob Loblaw Says:

    The people who were arguing that Hitler wasn’t such a bad guy were those making money selling him weapons. Like Prescott Bush!


  90. Anthony Says:

    It blows me away that people still buy this sh*t every day. Both my in-laws LOVE FAUXNEWS. They ONLY trust Faux. They paint me a pinko-wuss-liberal (another traitor).

    My MOther-in-Law contiued to argue “TRUTH” is subjective. I tried to correct her, We have truth and opinion, they are not the same. She would not give up her point, so since judgement is so subjective you might as well pick the TRUTH you want.

    I am trying to teach my kids truth to power no matter who is in control. Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth. My in-laws don’t care about truth, only what they want to believe so I guess I cracked one of the reasons how American’s can still buy this crap. I mean, what the hell do they think America is great for; why America is the greatest country on earth???

    Honor and justice the american way… what idiots. They go to great lenghts, crazy duplicity to continue Bush SUpport. THEY BELIEVE BUSH IS THE GREATEST PRESIDENT!!! I just can’t possibly understand… sigh

    “Don’t believe that traitor Michael Moore!” they tell me. When I ask why they say he is lying to sell books. FOX is the only network that EVERY talking head has published books, and many more then 1!! uggghh!!

    I swear, sometimes I get so crazy in my head I want a civil war.

    Roof top
    six pack/rifle.
    Aim for bush stickers
    shoot.
    repeat.


  91. Sir Lawrence Olivier Says:

    How’s it hangin’ Danny Kaye my long lost butt buddy?


  92. SpudgeBoy Says:

    #76

    If he is talking abou tthe world fifth largest economy, he is talking about California.


  93. SpudgeBoy Says:

    “America knows who the real Joe McCarthys are today and that is why the Democratic Party is out of power.”

    Tell that to Bush who is now getting hammered by democrats AND republicans. It is the NeoCons that have lost power.


  94. Gary Kleppe Says:

    I am HOPING that George Bush will choke on another pretzel. What er the odds of that? About the same as bringing democracy to the middle east. You see, they don’t want our brand of democracy. They have Islam. Are you gonna try and convert them awawy from Islam?

    People in the Middle East would probably love REAL Democracy. But military occupation by a foreign power isn’t democracy and will never lead to it.


  95. Anthony Says:

    I mean and that is the point SPudgeBoy, Neo-Cons, not True Republicans are in control, why can’t my in-laws just except that and see it as a way to come out of supporting bush???

    The neo-cons duped us, this is not true Conervatisim.. this is Pirate Fascists…

    but no, they love these idiots and see any and all Republican bad press as Evil Democrates empty attacks..


  96. SpudgeBoy Says:

    #84

    “Sponge - your Mom said you need to use MORE VULGAR and colourful language - just like she taught you!! ”

    Actually, my mom is one of you people. She is a Republican and a Church lady. SO, be careful who you attack, it may be one of your own.

    So go fvck yourself with a razor barb stick in your ass. cvnt.


  97. El Perro Patron Says:

    Why do you guys even respond to the trolls? You’re just giving them the attention they crave. Picking at them is like picing at a zit. It only makes the problem worse. Ignore them and they’ll be forced to seek gratification elsewhere.


  98. Liberal Smartass Says:

    Nazis Bill? Takes one to know one..


  99. Anthony Says:

    I think to myself if I were single and had no kids, I would make it my business to go down to Foxnews (I live in NY) and wait for O’rielly and Hannity to show up and attack them. I am not kidding. A nice shiner or fat lip would be fantastic to see on them. what a picture…

    They are a disgrace to my Country and deserve much worse.


  100. Kevin Lyda Says:

    1) Until Bill O’Reilly apologises, every Democrat on his show must demand an apology and not say anything else until they get that apology.

    2) Outside of Bill O’Reilly’s home and place(s) of work, the DNC needs to put a Shame on You billboard.


  101. I-RIGHT-I Says:

    Why do you guys even respond to the trolls?
    Comment by El Perro Patron

    I know, I know!!!

    It’s because we are the closest thing to an reasonable rational adult this site has to offer. Besides…I’m impossible to ignore. Try it….loser.


  102. Cee Says:

    Do we need to see a smut filled creature like this on the show, Katie????


  103. SpudgeBoy Says:

    “2) Outside of Bill O’Reilly’s home and place(s) of work, the DNC needs to put a Shame on You billboard.”

    That’s a great idea.


  104. Solitaire Says:

    It would be so nice if the MSM stopped giving the bully pulpit to the wingnuts. It seems like the crazier they are, the more airtime they get.


  105. Godfry Daniel Says:

    This hate-spewing jerk is trying to create a civil war in America. He must be stopped. Boycott any and all sponsors of any program that give this diseased human air time.


  106. El Perro Patron Says:

    Why would the Today Show have Bill O’Loser on their show? For the advertisers benefit of course. They know that not only does Bully Boy have a legion of brain dead followers, but they are also already preselected as people who tend to waste their money on useless vanity products like an O’Reilly windbreaker or No Spin Zone tie clasp or Bill’s favorite, The Factor Falafel Flavored Dildo. Idiots with expendable cash and no taste… That’s an advertiser’s dream demographic.


  107. kindness Says:

    What? I guess my Mighty Booting campaign didn’t work out as I had hoped for you Iassholeee. Damn. Actually, you aren’t very adult. But more so than ned, who has been wonderfully absent lately. But you are right up there with MA. If you want to post yourself to be deserving of respect, don’t end your schpeil with “loser”. Me I don’t really care for your respect. LOSER.


  108. Solitaire Says:

    And why do journalists interview other “journalists” anyway (I know O’Reilly is a stretch there)? That seems so incestuous. Journalists should be working the story. Interviews with the journalists themselves belongs on Entertainment shows, not news broadcasts. It’s journalism on the cheap.


  109. TerrytheTurtle Says:

    #106, that’s right S - the SCLM looks more and more like Jerry Springer every day.


  110. Ryan Neat Says:

    Ironic that a NAZI accuses others of acting like hitler sympathizers. Hitler invaded Poland illegally on trumped up reasons as well - and the ‘hitler sympathizers’ were the people in germany who went along with it - just like O’Leilly.

    What a hypocrite, a liar and a FOOL!


  111. Jealous of Jeff Says:

    #109 I saw Ned in New York last week, I took this photo: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ ph/ nutrichris/ detail?.dir=/ 6f32&.dnm=7b41re2.jpg


  112. MarcWW Says:

    It’s obvious that Bill Al Reilly (hey Bill, have your terrorist buddies completed their plan to bomb Coit Tower yet?) and other right-wing nuts use insults, invective, and strong emotions to prove their point. Liberals use truth and logic. Unfortunately, a majority of Americans seem to prefer the obscene and showy over those boring facts…how else can we explain Al Reilly and pro wrestling?


  113. Solitaire Says:

    I guess we get what we put up with. I am going to send a little note off to the Today’s Show network about that O’Reilly idiot. If I wanted to watch FOX, I know how to turn the channel.


  114. Anthony Says:

    Interesting, we need a study.. I bet majority of Pro Wrestling fans voted for Bush. hands down.


  115. freedom is not free! Says:

    The Worst Thing Imaginable is to HIGHLY Critizise Military VETS, Treat them as Exposable, Throw them OUT in ther Streets, KILL Them with FRIENDLY?Fire. Then Call them BACK?????????????????????????????????

    MILITARY — ARMY TRIES TO REENLIST FORMER SOLDIERS: In an effort to meet their goal to enlist 80,000 soldiers this year, “the Army has a new offer: Join us and regain your old rank without repeating basic training.” The Army hopes to plug last year’s 7,000 soldier recruitment gap. “The Army previously had welcomed back former service members, but only under conditions that made it unattractive to most, namely that they would lose their prior rank and were required to take basic training again.” The new offer applies to all former soldiers who return to the Army after being out of uniform for fewer than five years.


  116. mongoloid Bill Says:

    BO. YOU are a Fascist!(fact)
    BO responds; no, the left is fascist.

    It’s the old, “I know you are but what am I”, practiced by 8 year old’s throughout the country for ages.


  117. Ty Says:

    The Falafel King Has Spoken!
    Enough of this asshole.
    Is Mel Brooks behind this?
    Straight to Broadway!


  118. Anthony Says:

    mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging


  119. Anthony Says:

    Holy crap, Morgan Fairchild of all people is on MSNBC now and boy she laid it out!! SHe is fantastic, calling Bush straight out


  120. danny k Says:

    Leaving Hussein in power in 1991 sent a terrible message to the world. When liberals realize that, they might be better off. Until they stop blaming Bush and start blaming terrorists, they are doomed to minority status.


  121. MarcWW Says:

    Ty, how could you insult Mel Brooks like that? Mel is funny and talented…Falafel King is mean and criminal.

    I’m sorry, but even when I’m in my best mood, Al Reilly makes me cringe, not laugh.


  122. Anthony Says:

    She was opposite Pat Buchanan (who also speaks the truth but with a non-liberal way. they should have their own show.


  123. Jealous of Jeff Says:

    Danny - Katie Couric and Bill O’Reilly… look at the picture if it will help you.


  124. MarcWW Says:

    Danny, WTF??? It was a Republican president who left Hussein in power. He had good reasons for doing so, as well.

    Also, you’re confusing the words “Hussein” and “terrorists”. They had nothing whatsoever to do with each other. That is a fact. To bad the current Republican president doesn’t let facts stand in his way. Too bad the current Republican president is nearly as smart as the former Republican president.


  125. chuck Says:

    all these chickenhawks wanting to stay the course…sending soldiers to die when they dodged the chance to become real men…gag me with a spoon…


  126. Ryan Neat Says:

    “Leaving Hussein in power in 1991 sent a terrible message to the world.”dannyKKK

    You mean the message that we respect international law, even though Saddam didn’t and THAT was the reason we were fighting him?

    And the current me we sent is that we’ll lie, kill, use WMDs, torture and break international law if you make us mad - ironically the EXACT same characteristics we claim we were fighting Saddam over.

    You’re such an idiot, you certainly picked the correct political party that reflects your ignorance.


  127. Gary Kleppe Says:

    Until they stop blaming Bush and start blaming terrorists,

    It’s logically impossible to do both of those at once.


  128. MarcWW Says:

    Oh, Danny, by the way, one of the principal people involved with the decision to not try to remove Hussein from power in 1991 was Dick Cheney. He publically defended that decision, and with some very well-reasoned, well-thought out points, I might add. Talk about a flip-flopper.


  129. Glenn Says:

    Boy, I know I’m gonna get flamed for this one, but Judd, you’re stretching things a bit to say that O’Reilly compared Murtha to “Hitler sympathizers.” Look, I hate O’Reilly, and what he said was stupid, but let’s not do what he does and twist people’s words to try to score cheap points.

    First (and I’m going by your quote here, I haven’t watched the video): He didn’t say Murtha, he referred to people saying “Get Out of Iraq Now” (assuming there are such people). Murtha has not said that — he wants a 6 month redeployment and a ready strike force, etc. The Republicans said he called for immediate withdrawal, remember? Their stupid little sham resolution on immediate withdrawal that they tried to say was Murtha/the Dems’ proposal? But he didn’t say that. So, not for O’Reilly’s sake, but for Murtha’s, let’s keep our facts straight here.

    Second, O’Reilly’s comment doesn’t necessarily refer to “Hitler sympathizers.” He’s obviously trying to make a lame reference to people like Chamberlain, who I don’t think anybody would call a “sympathizer” of Hitler. He misjudged him, and was too eager to appease him to avoid war, but I don’t think this was out of sympathy for Hitler or his aims.


  130. Liberal Smartass Says:

    MSM meeting talking heads like Katie that let this crap go unchecked are far worse than scum like O’Reilly. Who the hell ever came up with the notion that the truth tellers and liars need equal air time?


  131. IraqVet Says:

    So “if” Murtha was a Hitler sympathizer, what does that make O’Reilly…A Communist supporter? Because according to his views, everything should be one way with ONE person stating the facts and everyone supporting it, regardless of their personal beliefs…

    But hey, a senile old white man with sun spots and a clear propensity for forgetting snd distortion of the facts, sounds like symptoms of alzheimers to me??? I for one, feel that it is his way of saying he really didn’t understand his ignorance of the time…


  132. Ryan Neat Says:

    I get so sick of correcting all of you republican retards on this. You know conservatards, you can buy a dictionary if you want to learn english - so few of you seem to even know what basic words mean.

    Webster defines fascism as “a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition”

    American Heritage instead describes it as “A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism.”

    That completely and accurately describes the Bush/Cheney/Halliburton/Exxon/TimeWarner/OLeilly combination of belligerent nationalism. It also describes the fascist trolls on this site to a tee…

    Now Republican Children, grow up and go read a book. Illiteracy and ignorance among the reichwing is just embarrassing!


  133. Marquis Mark Says:

    O’Reilly must be talking about the Bush crowd — wasn’t Bush’s granddaddy a supporter of Hilter?


  134. SpudgeBoy Says:

    #122

    “Leaving Hussein in power in 1991 sent a terrible message to the world.”

    That is hilarious. That was Operation Desert Storm. That is where I was. We were called back by Smart Bush, because he didn’t want to get us into the never ending war we are in right now. He wanted to save lives to keep from happening what is going on there now.

    George HW Bush, samrt.

    George W Bush, stupid.


  135. MarcWW Says:

    I don’t think that Bush’s grandfather’s support of Hitler has any bearing on the current Bush’s policies, to be honest with you. And I’m quite sure that if GWB was president back in 1941, instead of FDR, he also would’ve taken immediately and decisive action against the invaders.

    Imagine…right after the Japanese attack, GWB addressing the nation, and talking about the “infamacousness of the attack”. The next day, in retaliation for the actions of the Japanese, America invades South Africa.

    40 years later…America is still in South Africa. Honeymooners everywhere needs a passport and a visa from the Japanese embassy to visit Hawaii. Over 200,000 American troops have died, but those South Africans now know their place.

    On second thought, I’m glad that Democratic FDR was president then…


  136. Ryan Neat Says:

    Marquis,

    Bush’s Grandfather Prescott was both a supporter and FUNDER of hitler. He and his bank were fined after it was discovered.

    Republicans were often fascist traitors during world warII, it’s amazing we were able to win at all with so many of those treasonous bastards around. Good thing we didn’t have a republican president at the time!


  137. elizabetta Says:

    too bad Katie didnt have a falafell (read loofa) to stuff in his big mouth!!!


  138. GregM Says:

    DannyK, Big George Bush new that taking out Hussein would cause the very mess we now see in Iraq…thats why he was left in power…he keep the likes of the Taliban at bay. He had NOTHING to do with 9/11, Al Qaeda or bin Laden (oh yeah, bin Laden…remember him?) When Conservatives realize that, they will understand that the US created this whole charade for oil.


  139. IraqVet Says:

    Ryan…

    Watch yourself…You might be labeled as a “true” Republican…And you know educating the Radical-Right may label you as a traitor by many of the neo-cons!

    And as you know, Your definition is not a popular stance to have these days…Unless you subscribe to the 700 Club and donate to Pat Robertson for his new Bentley!

    I know the ideal on conservatism has changed, and I feel that the Republican party has been hi-jacked by a christian initiative that has distorted the views of what the party was truly about…

    Reagan was NOt the best President, in my opinion, but he did respect the principles of that party. This guy (BUSH) does not have a clue about the true creed of what a Republican is supposed to be…


  140. freedom is not free! Says:

    Why Bad Mouth a Military Veteran that Has “BEEN THERE DONE THAT”? And then try to reenlist them?

    MILITARY — ARMY TRIES TO REENLIST FORMER SOLDIERS: In an effort to meet their goal to enlist 80,000 soldiers this year, “the Army has a new offer: Join us and regain your old rank without repeating basic training.” The Army hopes to plug last year’s 7,000 soldier recruitment gap. “The Army previously had welcomed back former service members, but only under conditions that made it unattractive to most, namely that they would lose their prior rank and were required to take basic training again.” The new offer applies to all former soldiers who return to the Army after being out of uniform for fewer than five years.


  141. freedom is not free! Says:

    Watch out Iraqvet, They are Comin to get you.


  142. Too Sense Says:

    I don’t hate Republicans …. I just hate their behavior.


  143. Brian Says:

    With all the talk about Hitler, one should notice the similarities to GWB’s speech right after 9-11 and Hitler’s after the Reichstag fire. The paid pudit’s for the right invoke Hitler to keep the idiot’s frothing. In reality the current regime is doing the same thing step by step as did Hitler and that should be where the Bush family ties to Hitler come to light.


  144. MarcWW Says:

    The Republican party was hijacked back in Reagan’s day, too. Remember Jerry Falwell and Ed Meese? Still, I must admit that I respected the Republican party…up until Newt Gringrich and the “Contract with America”, which turned out to be “Contract on America”.

    How the Republican party went from Abraham Lincoln to GWB just escapes me…


  145. JIMBO Says:

    I used to watch the Today show, but I have declined to do so within the last year. And what happened today was proof that I had no regrets abandoning Katie, Matt, Al and Ann. Although, I cheered for Matt when he went up against Tom Cruise, I’m extremely pissed at Al for being more of a joke.

    Why couldn’t the producers of the show invite Al Franken, Dana Milbrook, Maureen Dowd, or Randy Rhodes
    to the program? I plan to e-mail the Today show to ask why and to tell them that they need to provide equal objectivity in their stories.

    And I just think it’s now typical for Mighty Hermaphroditzo to chicken out of intellectual discussions just as soon as she makes a couple of usless posts. Typical troll.


  146. Independent Says:

    Same double speak and oxymoron talk from O’Reilly and the great right fascists:

    1. Most are draft dodging cowards (O’ Reilly, Limbaugh, Rove, Cheney, etc.) and choose to “swift boat” vets who don’t agree with them.

    2. They have no problem invoking Hitler and the Nazi party when describing people who are diametrically opposed to fascism. Instead they are describing themselves and spewing their self-hatred.

    3. They cling to the weak GOP talking points, ie. “freedom’s on the march”, “Iraqi elections”, “Iraq/911, Iraq/911, Iraq/911..”, “cut ‘n run”, “mission accomplished”, etc…..puke

    4. They try to tell us the economy is great when that only applies to career McDonalds burger slingers. You can’t trade skilled jobs for a mop and a broom and say the economy is great. Idiots.

    So why are the trolls so damn intersted in the welfare of the Iraqi’s now? Why are they so “compassionate” about liberating a people that they really wanted to blow off the face of the earth prior to the invasion? I’ll tell you why: To stay lock-in-step with their Feuhrer and help continuously change the reasons as to why we invaded Iraq. These filthy degenerates will stop at nothing to hang onto power.


  147. freedom is not free! Says:

    Danny, Join the Military.


  148. JIMBO Says:

    By the way, wasn’t there suppose to be a resoultion in San Francisco to ask Fox to fire O’Lielly for his disgusting comments about bombing the city?

    Does anyone know what happened? Please let me know.


  149. Resist-PNAC-AEI Says:

    DannyK

    “I think that the proposition of going to Baghdad is also fallacious. I think if we were going to remove Saddam Hussein we would have had to go all the way to Baghdad, we would have to commit a lot of force because I do not believe he would wait in the Presidential Palace for us to arrive. I think we’d have had to hunt him down. And once we’d done that and we’d gotten rid of Saddam Hussein and his government, then we’d have had to put another government in its place. What kind of government? Should it be a Sunni government or Shi’i government or a Kurdish government or Ba’athist regime? Or maybe we want to bring in some of the Islamic fundamentalists? How long would we have had to stay in Baghdad to keep that government in place? What would happen to the government once U.S. forces withdrew? How many casualties should the United States accept in that effort to try to create clarity and stability in a situation that is inherently unstable? I think it is vitally important for a President to know when to use military force. I think it is also very important for him to know when not to commit U.S. military force. And it’s my view that the President got it right both times, THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A MISTAKE FOR US TO GET BOGGED DOWN IN THE QUAGMIRE INSIDE IRAQ.” 4-29-91 Cheney

    “And the question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam worth? And the answer is not very damned many.” 8-92
    _______________
    Scholar says Bush has used obscure doctrine to extend power 95 times:
    http://rawstory.com/ news/ 2005/ CanExecutive_Branch_Decide_0923.html

    I got 50+ more links to give to you if you want to read about the attack on civil liberties since 9/11. I think I don’t even have to mention which party is pushing hardest for them.


  150. Average TV Viewer Says:

    Mighty,
    If vaccinations, schools, political debate, putting Saddam on trial, armed polling places and building a foreign military abroad were popular with Americans it would have been done a long time ago. Americans aren’t into this anymore. It doesn’t make us bad people. Most of us are smart enough to know these aren’t the resons we’re in Iraq. And if a super majority of Americans aren’t into this then the leaders need to follow suit. I don’t think it is mathematically possible for our leaders to care about something more than the people do. If Americans were concerned about these things they would be on the news every night. They’re not. You will blame the media bias but you’re wrong. There are very good reasons feel-good stories don’t come out of Iraq. Censorship is not one of them.
    Besides, your stuff clearly comes off Whitehouse.gov.


  151. Zwack Says:

    Hey, If I-RIGHT-I is still around he needs to answer three questions.

    1) Are you 35? If so I am older than you, that leaves Intelligence and Wisdom.

    2) How do you want to prove Intelligence?

    3) How do you want to prove Wisdom?

    I’m willing to prove that following your criteria, my comments about what I believe are more valid than yours.

    You claimed that they were becose you were older (apparently not), wiser and more intelligent.

    Now, either put up, or shut up.

    Z.

    p.s. Sorry to the rest of you if you’ve seen this before, but I STILL want an answer…


  152. For Truth Says:

    #108,

    You are exactly correct.


  153. amydemiceli Says:

    o reilly peaked during his “sex scandel”, hes a bum, and the world, fox viewer or fox hater knows hes just not credible (he never was in my opinion), he is begging for some new attention. The today show is not made up of the smartest people in television, they book anyone, they just hope for some buzz.

    o reilly isnt worth it, this is what he loves, more attention.


  154. larry Says:

    OReily is a street thug and will do or say anything to remain on television and the more outrageous he is and the more progressives sink to his level and respond or give him the time of day the more empowered he becomes. STOPPIT! As for the Today show or Fox News new morning show…pleez how many more right wingers and republican talking heads will Katie and MAtt give a platform…is that because they want to make sure Courd comes on there show to mouth the Bush position or they get access to W? Suspect it is and I for I am not watching them any longer. Good Morning America and CBS Morning if you must watch stupid programming is an alternative.


  155. MJ Says:

    #129#

    Until they stop blaming Bush and start blaming terrorists,

    It’s logically impossible to do both of those at once.

    Comment by Gary Kleppe — November 30, 2005 @ 12:47 pm

    Gary - I disagree - From where I stand, Bush is a terrorist.


  156. Gary Kleppe Says:

    MJ, that was rather my point.


  157. IraqVet Says:

    Keep waiting Zwack…

    I-WRONG is a COWARD and a FRAUD, just here to demonstrate his ignorance and misguided realities upon those who he feels he can initimidate…

    His record is not too good…So be patient, because the short bus doesn’t get back for a while!

    Free…

    I am already here (Hahahaha), and if YOU could see the recruits we are getting in now…EVERYONE would be very worried about our security! Bad time to be on DRILL status!

    Next up…Go to war or Go to jail!


  158. hardass Says:

    That nut case is a diversion , to get our mind from Georgie W. and the continued casuaties , destuction and expenses.


  159. Labdad Says:

    He’s a baby crying for attention.


  160. MarcWW Says:

    Bush a terrorist? Well, he did terrorize the American people into re-electing him (or electing him, depending on your views of the 2000 election). The color-coded terrorist alert went to orange several times during the election, and hasn’t done so since. He tried to paint Kerry as someone who doesn’t know anything about the military (in Vietnam, Kerry was getting shot at, Bush was doing shots). Overall, though, Bush has killed almost as many Americans as bin Laden, although I have to admit he’s approaching that 3000 mark awful quickly. Until Bush, through his hard work, passes bin Laden’s mark, I’m not sure I can call him a terrorist.


  161. Sally Says:

    Countdown will have a great take on this unless the host has gone over to the other side.


  162. Gary Kleppe Says:

    Bush a terrorist? Well, he did terrorize the American people into re-electing him (or electing him, depending on your views of the 2000 election).

    Either assumes the 2004 election was honest, which is doubtful to say the least.

    Overall, though, Bush has killed almost as many Americans as bin Laden, although I have to admit he’s approaching that 3000 mark awful quickly. Until Bush, through his hard work, passes bin Laden’s mark, I’m not sure I can call him a terrorist.

    You seem to think that only American lives matter. Bush and his cronies have slaughtered hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.


  163. Zwack Says:

    IraqVet,

    Thanks, I know…

    I explicitly stated in a different thread that I am not a member of the armed forces, but that if I was I would be more concerned about lack of planning than whether people disagreed with the President. IRI then claimed that my comments were less valid than his because… he hadn’t signed up, but he was “older, more intelligent and wiser” than me.

    Ryan then posted a comment about him being 35, which makes him younger than me (I’m 36 if it counts), and I am willing to prove that I am more intelligent and wiser than him.

    Every time I post my challenge he seems to stop writing in those threads though…

    I wonder why. Probably something to do with the coke that he mentioned he had up his nose.

    Z.


  164. I-RIGHT-I Says:

    Free…

    I am already here (Hahahaha), and if YOU could see the recruits we are getting in now…EVERYONE would be very worried about our security! Bad time to be on DRILL status!

    Next up…Go to war or Go to jail!

    Comment by IraqVet

    You spend to much time on the internet to be in the service. I’m thinking possibly used car salesman.


  165. I-RIGHT-I Says:

    Every time I post my challenge he seems to stop writing in those threads though…

    I wonder why. Probably something to do with the coke that he mentioned he had up his nose.

    Z.

    Comment by Zwack

    You don’t have the skills or the tools to challenge me.


  166. MarcWW Says:

    Gary, the 2004 election was honest, by most accounts. Bush’s 2004 campaign, however, was not. And the 2004 election was not even close to the mandate Bush claimed it is.

    I don’t think that only American lives matter. The fact that so many Iraqi lives have been needlessly lost only adds to Bush’s crimes.



  167. Zwack Says:

    I-RIGHT-I…

    You made your claim, now I want proof. If you prove to be older, wiser and more intelligent than me then I will accept it and admit that I am wrong.

    If however I turn out to be Older, Wiser and more intelligent than me then I would like you to stop posting your imbecilic trolls.

    Given the evidence we have so far, it seems like I am winning one of the three categories THAT YOU CHOSE already. I am older than you based on the evidence that we have.

    If I was going to be mean about it I would claim that that makes me the winner already as at least one of your three options is wrong and you used the conjunction AND rather than OR.

    Now, given that the only way you can save face in this is to accept that we prove which of us is more intelligent and wiser. Claiming that “You don’t have the tools for it” simply makes you sound like the yellow-bellied coward that you are.

    Now, what are the rules for the Intelligence challenge going to be? (Bear in mind that I have a Masters degreee and complete all of the puzzles in the local paper puzzle page on a 30 minute bus ride in the morning you might want to just cede defeat now.)

    Z.


  168. Gary Kleppe Says:

    Gary, the 2004 election was honest, by most accounts.

    Um, no. Go read Free Press, or the Conyers report.


  169. Zwack Says:

    I-RIGHT-I,

    by the way, if you really are that much better than me, don’t worry… I’m willing to accept defeat if I have to. Let me worry about whether I have the skills or not.

    Z.


  170. SpudgeBoy Says:

    “You don’t have the skills or the tools to challenge me.”

    Yes, because you have some serious mad l337 haxzors skillz? Okay, send me a DDOS attack right now.


  171. Independent Says:

    #172: Agreed. Ohio was not legitimate. I also implore anyone to read the Conyers report: “What Went Wrong in Ohio” and read the details.

    This is a shocking account at how fraudulent these elections have been, and fraudulent elections are one of the first of the 14 characteristics of Fascism to surface when a nation is on a fascist trajectory.


  172. Giacomo Says:

    - Um, no. Go read Free Press, or the Conyers report.

    - Comment by Gary Kleppe

    Those are your sources … look, if I want to be taken seriously, I can’t support my far out theory with websites that are far out themselves. Of course they’re going to say the election was rigged. I bet you could find a strong defense of creationsim or “intelligent design” at Focus on the Family too …


  173. Giacomo Says:

    Bad Science = I already know the truth, now how can I prove it.


  174. yank283 Says:

    “Gee, weren’t some of the more notable Nazi sympathizers prior to the US involvement in WWII, members of the Bush, Mellon, and Scaife families, to name a few? Families/people that today write a lot of blank checks to support right wing/fundamentalist think tanks, which also create and furnish a lot of information and opinion to O’Reilly and the Bush White House?”

    Well, to be fair, Joe Kennedy was up to his neck in prewar Nazi dealings…


  175. Giacomo Says:

    The whole Nazi dealings line is fallacious anyhow (with both Dems and Repubs having dealt with them) … we have hindsight to guide our opinions of the Nazi