The Crumbling Coalition.
By on Dec 1st, 2005 at 10:34 pm
The Crumbling Coalition.
Bulgaria and Ukraine announce they will begin withdrawing their combined 1,250 troops in Iraq by mid-December.
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Yeah, One can’t really expect the
December 1st, 2005 at 10:45 pmrest of the “coalition” to sign-on
to infinite troop deployment.
Will the whack-jobs call them
traitors today or wait until
tomorrow?
I am sending a thank you note and a Christmas card out to none other than: You guessed it, Bulgaria and Ukraine
December 1st, 2005 at 10:56 pmIt’ only the begining . In spite all the spin we are out of there .It’s a matter of saving face .
December 1st, 2005 at 11:04 pmHow very akward! I have that feeling I normally only get after hearing Bush speak, or watching that scene in “Something about Mary” when Ben Stiller opens the door with sploodge hanging off his ear.
December 1st, 2005 at 11:05 pm“Some say it’s the mother of all coalitions.”-Donald Rumsfeld.
Looks like the mother has devolved into the infant, Donny Boy.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
December 1st, 2005 at 11:11 pmYep, Bush is Definitely BLUFFING!
Just like He did During Vietnam. Read this piece from msnbc.
The hidden message to Democrats and to Republicans is clear: I am taking my stand to stay the course until victory, as I define it, is achieved. That means I decide when and whether troops come home. And if you wish to head for the lifeboats, that is your call. But you, as I, will be held accountable by history — and be remembered as the summer soldiers and sunshine patriots — when we win this war.
December 1st, 2005 at 11:20 pmBush will be the First to Jump Ship when China Says” Enough!”
December 1st, 2005 at 11:21 pmWay to grind our military down, ruin our national reputation and divide the nation all while giving Iran a strong foothold in Iraq.
Mission Accomplished!
-GSD
December 1st, 2005 at 11:53 pmI can’t believe Bush thinks we should stay and fight! What’s the harm in running and hoping they don’t hurt us anymore? Besides 9/11, that’s always worked before…
December 2nd, 2005 at 12:40 amWhat’s the harm in running and hoping they don’t hurt us anymore? Besides 9/11, that’s always worked before…
Comment by Mark Marco — December 2, 2005 @ 12:40 am
You do realise Hussein’s regime had nothing to do with 9/11, yes?
December 2nd, 2005 at 12:58 amThat means I decide when and whether troops come home. And if you wish to head for the lifeboats, that is your call. But you, as I, will be held accountable by history — and be remembered as the summer soldiers and sunshine patriots — when we win this war.
Heres Bushies Main problem,from the short quote above.
‘Hidden Message’
‘I Decide’
‘you’
‘your call’.
‘But you, as I, will be held accountable’
‘when we’
’summer soldiers’
’sunshine patriots’
~~~~~~~~~~~~
JeeZ talk about PSYCHO-BABLLE. Look at what He says here when you remove the fluff.
Just as We see, He is COMITTED to NOT telling the Truth, Its “MY” war and “I” Decide. “YOU” can try to run, but you will still be resposible as “I” and held accountable (even though you were given choice to Not Partake?(peanutbutter PP)) then he goes on to beautify war with ‘Summer Soldiers’ and ‘Sunshine Patriots’
Someone send in the Sea Monkies.
December 2nd, 2005 at 1:47 amThis Man has joined Orielly, He has lost HIS Mind.
“What’s the harm in running and hoping they don’t hurt us anymore? Besides 9/11, that’s always worked before…
Comment by Mark Marco”
Actually the republican inability to read clear english and memos titled ‘bin laden plans attack on american soil’ is why 9/11 happened. By contrast, the millenium bomber was STOPPED because the previous DEMOCRAT paid attention to similar memos and acted. Republicans like you who can’t see either simple facts, or related contexts are why republicans always fail. You are such a pathetic moron.
December 2nd, 2005 at 1:53 amMission Accomplished.
December 2nd, 2005 at 8:05 amYeah, let’s stop helping the Iraqi people. They all suck anyway and should suffer for being who they are, and because of where they come from.
Let’s celebrate and have a good time, come on… Iraqis suck yeah.
December 2nd, 2005 at 8:50 amLooks like there’s a bit of ‘a crumbling coalition’ within this criminal admin. Check this out.
Here’s a tastey tid-bit.
The sources said Mr. Bush has privately blamed Mr. Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for the U.S.-led war in Iraq. They said the president has told his senior aides that the vice president and defense secretary provided misleading assessments on Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction, as well as the capabilities of the regime of Saddam Hussein.
December 2nd, 2005 at 9:28 amWell, Lyle, #14 the cynical remark is not wasted on a rightwinger like me. Yes, too bad about the Iraqis. I don’t think that the average american is one for “staying the course” which also consists of continuing to weaken our military, watching companies like Halliburton loot our treasury, and follow a vain, failed course of nation building by a group of conservatives wanting to spread “democracy” to a bunch of people who, by and large, hate our guts.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the Administration is the one who to blame for losing the public’s support here. I mean, perhaps if Bush would have spent more time watching what Rummy and Cheney were doing, instead of worrying about the brush he needed to cut on his ranch, maybe Bagdad would have electricy by now at pre-war levels, children could go to school without being blown up, and the former Iraqi Army and its generals could have restored order long ago.
Check the polls , knucklehead, the average Iraqi DOESN’T WANT US THERE.
December 2nd, 2005 at 9:30 amare we going to get a press conference at the WH? I saw whats-her-name wwallace’s wife the WH Comm Dir on CNN sitting in front of the podium talking to a reporter…but I still have not seen an actual press confrence since the murtha=moore statement came out (no tv at work, sorry for any ignorance)
December 2nd, 2005 at 9:36 amI don’t know who agree’s with me, but it is very very sad news to see country’s dropping from our already weak colation and global reputation…I do not want things to escalate in Iraq, but they never should have started in the first place…
by the president delevering his ill-prepared pr fluff speech a couple of days ago, he cost our army to shoulder more of the burden…they were looking for a brain in all these mixed signals coming from Iraq, but in the end they just got the same old bs..
so I for one do not want INSURGANTS winning…but do think we need to make some changes and refocuses our efforts to achieve anything…
staying the course will lead to failure as has the war on poverty (do we still actually believe in trickle down as the rich get richer by exporting our jobs – also have you heard – NM Millitary base had illegals working on construction projects – showing Bush’s true stance) the war on drugs, and know the war on terror…how many fronts do we have to fight on until we spread so thin we can no longer be seen
December 2nd, 2005 at 9:44 amIn the spring, the Netherlands had 1,400 troops in Iraq. Today, there are 19, including a lone Dutch soldier in Baghdad.
In the months after the March 2003 invasion, the multinational force numbered about 300,000 soldiers from 38 countries. That figure is now just under 24,000 mostly non-combat personnel from 27 countries.
South Korea, the second-largest coalition partner after Britain, is expected to withdraw about 1,000of its 3,200 troops in the first half of 2006.
Italy’s military reportedly is preparing to give parliament a timetable for a proposed withdrawal of its 2,800 troops.
Struggling to shore up the coalition, Bush stopped in Mongolia on his recent Asia trip and praised its force of about 120 soldiers in Iraq as “fearless warriors.”
Whoo Hoo!!! 120 “fearless warriors”!!! I guess the others will be marked as traitors or cowards for breaking the “mother of all coalitions”…
Give Me a Break! Bush Sr. HAD a coalition! This was a rag-time band of misfits and derelicts, with the U.S. taking most of the bullets!
What an IDIOT!!!
December 2nd, 2005 at 10:02 amWake up, Chris!!! The INSURGENTS have already won! We are just too stubborn to see it…
There will be a mock election and Iraq (America) will place the puppet government in control for a bit, and then the radicals will rise up and take the country back to where it was before…
The same thing happened in IRAN, and the Ayatollah Khomenei era began…The best thing we can do is step back, and re-group in strike teams…
Why fight them in the city when we cannot see them coming…They want us to do that! We are EASY targets for them, and one or two is more of a victory for them, where as we look for significant body counts to justify a victory!
If we are less visible, set up a garrison, and control zone, and allow the idiots to come into a kill zone! They cannot win those types of battles, and with that being said, we control the battle field, and we control the outcome…
I’d take those odds better than riding through a neighborhood, where they can pop out from a home or rooftop at any time…If we had a battle plan of what strategic controlled areas we wanted, then whatever they do outside of that is for the Iraq government to control…
But, BUSH/CHENEY/RUMSFELD made the mess and now they have no idea how to clean it up!
December 2nd, 2005 at 10:15 amIraqvet,
December 2nd, 2005 at 10:21 amI agree, and believe we are just sitting targets in Bagdahad giving Iraqis a reason to shoot, but (maybe) with a refocus to the border, along with the invisible strike force, we can try and prevent the country from being ripped apart and maintain a unity from north to south, it’s the best we can hope for, but we have to refocus our efforts from greed/oil to letting a country form (not nation building)…I agree that the insurgants do currently have the upper hand and we seem to be helping thier cause by being there, what I meant in my post was the ‘end’ result, when the dust settles what has happened to that area known as iraq
Damn “cut and runners”! Look, there is no “victory” no matter how long we stay or how many troops we have. We’re in their country and they don’t want us there. The Sunnis, Kurds and Shiites are going to have to figure out how they’re going to be governed. There is no possible way the US can mandate democracy. The Kurds are already making their own oil contracts. The Shiites are running their own militia (also known as death squads), and the Sunnis are using their weapons to fight the Shiites and the US which is supporting them. You have to remember that the Shiites have a huge majority, the Sunnis know it, and in any democracy, the Sunnis know that they will be screwed.
After the British tried to put a democracy in place when they left, there was war until various strongmen ran the joint ending with Saddam. Whoever controls the military and police will rule the country. The strongest general will declare martial law because of the violence and then wil become the dictator. This will happen no matter how long we stay and no matter how many lives and how much treasury we waste.
December 2nd, 2005 at 10:43 amI believe there is no preventing civil war in Iraq no matter how strong our “coalition of the willing”. We shouldn’t have let the genie out of the bottle. It took a tyrant to keep the religious strife from tearing the country apart. The militias have control of major sections of the country, the oil regions, and they don’t feel any particular loyalty to the government, only their group’s leaders. Whether we stay 6 months, 1 year, or ten years, we can’t prevent the factions from fighting. There are only two solutions for Iraq, A tyrant ruling with brutality, or a broken warring, multi-region “country”. The main Shite area ruled by an oppressive religious theocracy closely tied to Iran. The civil war will happen no matter what we do. In fact it has already started. We shouldn’t have broken it. I think we should see them through this election and then get the hell out. Bush & Co’s fantasy about a peacful democratic free and an open Iraq is so far from reality that it blows my mind anyone ever bought it. I guess they don’t have history books at the White House. Oh, I forgot they all went to business school…
Even if we give the administration the benefit of doubt (of which I have none at this point) and they didn’t blatantly lie to the American people, they still should be impeached and jailed for the sheer ineptitude. What Bush & Co. has done to this country makes me sick to my stomach if I think about it too much. I can’t believe we have three more years of this fantasy living moron we call the President.
It doesn’t matter what we do at this point, Iraq is screwed.
December 2nd, 2005 at 10:44 am#22 – Thanks. You put it much more clearly than I did, #23.
December 2nd, 2005 at 10:46 amBush does not care about Iraq’s people or the american people. All he cares about is oil, power, feeding the cancerious big business that put him in power and deviding both countries with lies and cover up’s. The entire administration in power right now remind me of an abusive spouse. Totaly control the person or people, deny their rights or change them to be non funtioning and remove or ostercise all friends and family. Bush and Co. fit the profile of abusers. By the way, abusers are truly cowards and can be stoped if we take our country back. Let’s not wait to long or there won’t be enough left to even think about. Pombo and friends are working at getting all our parks and prestene roadless areas opened up and sold to big mining, timber sales and oil. There still not doing enough for our displaced people from the south. Look around folks while they keep our heads busy with sound bites and BS they are stealing us blind of resourses to the rich and lives of our military…Blessings
December 2nd, 2005 at 10:58 amI think Lyle is drunk.
December 2nd, 2005 at 11:39 amHay, Pagan American. I was going to use that handle but you got it first and then I went for witch and that was used also. Oh well, using my name works…Good posts…Blessings
December 2nd, 2005 at 12:06 pmTHE PLOT THICKENS…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051202/ts_nm/russia_iran_arms_dc
December 2nd, 2005 at 1:20 pm#23, I think we should refer to GWB as Pandora from now on — he opened the box an unleashed evil in the Middle East, from which we will suffer for decades.
December 2nd, 2005 at 3:04 pm#28, One can envision a Russia-Iran fight over Iraq with America-Israel, and I wouldn’t want to take bets on who’d be the victor in that one!
December 2nd, 2005 at 3:08 pmHey….there were supposed to flowers and candy, remember?! Oh, and I believe it was to be a brief encounter (6 months at the outside, as I recall, according to Demon Rumsfeld). I doubt that any countries involved in the “coaliton of the willing” EVER intended to keep boots on the ground ad infinitum. Well, as it turns out, there ain’t no flowers and there ain’t no candy! I’m not surprised and certainly can’t say that I blame any of them for finally pulling out of this debacle.
December 2nd, 2005 at 5:19 pmmagasins sport…
news…
April 9th, 2007 at 7:45 amGregory
I declare war on thee.
April 4th, 2008 at 4:06 am