McCain: Murtha “Has Become Too Emotionalâ€
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McCain: Murtha “Has Become Too Emotionalâ€
Appearing on Meet the Press, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) argued that Rep. John Murtha is advocating redeployment of U.S. forces – not because he believes it is in the best interest of the country – but because he has become overly emotional:
MCCAIN: I think he has become too emotional and understandably so. He goes to funerals. He goes, as many of us do, out to Walter Reed, and he sees the price of war. And I think that that has had some effect on him…
Of course, George W. Bush doesn’t go to soldiers funerals. That’s why his policy in Iraq has been so successful.
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“I think he has become too emotional and understandably so. He goes to funerals. He goes, as many of us do, out to Walter Reed, and he sees the price of war. And I think that that has had some effect on him…”
Maybe some of these dipshits need to go to some funerals and get effected.
That is the problem with this country. So many people think that shopping on Black Friday is more important than an American soldiers life.
“Why should we hear about body bags and deaths, oh, I mean, it’s not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?”
Barbara Bush ABC’s “Good Morning America” March 18, 2003.
December 4th, 2005 at 12:40 pmFeature
Is John McCain a War Hero?
The senator’s five years as a prisoner of war have been widely viewed as heroic. But as he prepares a White House bid, a small group of detractors is determined to expose him as a wartime traitor.
By Amy Silverman
Published: Thursday, March 25, 1999
December 4th, 2005 at 12:43 pmhttp://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/
The president routinely meets with wounded soldiers and the families of the fallen. Judd is lying scum. But we already knew that.
December 4th, 2005 at 12:44 pmCraig Willbanks wants you to know that John McCain–former prisoner of war, current senator, White House aspirant–is a traitor, a liar and a wimp.
Willbanks and McCain have never met. The senator probably has never heard of this hunched-over, soft-spoken fellow who served two tours of duty in Vietnam as an Army combat engineer and now lives in a run-down apartment in Mesa.
December 4th, 2005 at 12:45 pmCraig Willbanks is obsessed with John McCain, and he is not alone.
December 4th, 2005 at 12:47 pmHe is part of a small, nationwide movement hell-bent on convincing the rest of us that in spite of glowing accounts of McCain’s valor as a POW, Arizona’s senior senator betrayed his country by collaborating with the North Vietnamese, and has been trying to cover up that fact ever since.
Willbanks’ mission: “Don’t get him elected. Cannot have . . . a traitor in the top position, giving away secrets of the United States.”
To that end, Willbanks spends virtually all his free time retyping any Arizona Republic articles that portray the senator in an unflattering light. He intends to post them on the Web, where they’ll join a pile of documents that, Willbanks insists, proves McCain collaborated with the Communists during his five years as a POW.
December 4th, 2005 at 12:48 pmI’ll take emotion over apathy any day.
December 4th, 2005 at 12:49 pmWillbanks has a paying job, as a bus driver for the City of Mesa. But he was recently reassigned to drive an adult day-care van. He’s excited about it; the older people will want to talk about war history, and he can give them packets of information he keeps on McCain. He’s already given out 15 or so.
“I give them a packet, and they come back and say, ‘Well, that goddamn traitor,’” he says.
December 4th, 2005 at 12:49 pmMcCain’s back to taking his orders from Bush again. Apparently we’re supposed to keep viewing soliders as expendable spare parts like the body armor we don’t give them. Every article on this site shows a recurring trend: Bush’s agenda would be massively unpopular with the the voters if Bush were open about it and allowed an honest debate on the issues.
December 4th, 2005 at 12:49 pmThe “documents” include an article McCain wrote for U.S. News & World Report in 1973, upon his release from prison camp. In the article, McCain admits that he–like many POWs–confessed to war crimes under physical and emotional duress. There’s also a transcript of an interview POW McCain did for French television, a story about McCain that appeared in a Vietnamese newspaper and an account of an interview of McCain by a Spanish psychiatrist.
Willbanks got these documents from retired Army Colonel Earl Hopper Sr. and his wife, Patty, who run a POW/MIA research organization from their home in Glendale. The Hoppers’ goal is to force the U.S. government to produce a full accounting of the more than 2,000 men whose bodies have not been recovered from the Vietnam War. Among those men is Earl Hopper Jr., the colonel’s eldest son.
Willbanks and the Hoppers believe that live American soldiers were left behind at the end of the Vietnam War, and that McCain is part of the conspiracy to cover it up. McCain has long contended that there is no proof that live Americans remain in Southeast Asia. The Hoppers have gathered a motley crew of local Vietnam veterans and POW/MIA family members to assist in their crusade against McCain, and have hooked up with like-minded vets and POW kin across the country.
December 4th, 2005 at 12:50 pmBut a few have let their ire take them even farther. A handful of POW/MIA activists are critical of McCain’s behavior during the war. They believe that John McCain did not return from Vietnam a hero. They say his own clumsiness caused his limbs to be broken as he ejected from his plummeting warplane. They claim McCain was never tortured in prison. They accuse him of collaborating with not only the North Vietnamese but with Communists in the Soviet Union and Cuba. They quote unnamed sources who say McCain had a wife and children in Vietnam.
December 4th, 2005 at 12:55 pmJohn McCain’s credibility is an issue.
Consider today’s interview when Russert asked him whether or not Congress should be doing internal ethics investigations into those elected officials named in the Ambramoff/Scanlon investigation. He wouldn’t touch it with a ten foot pole, claiming he’s on some Indian gaming commission (?). What a cop out for a man that stakes his name on integrity, honor and accountability.
When Rove and Bush geared up the smear machine in the South Carolina primaries in the runup to election 2000, and push-polled the locals with the illegitimate black baby lie, he was ruined. For him to then back Bush in 2004 was transparently craven. He has to position himself on the “right” side of the GOP money machine in order that he can count on the base in 08′. He sacrificed his honor and his families honor in the name of political expediency.
John McCain says and does what benefits him politically and not what’s right, this has become clear (with the exception of his stance on torture). His opinion on Murtha is insignificant.
F*ck John McCain. That said, I think he’s our next president. Ugh!
December 4th, 2005 at 12:55 pmhttp://www.who2.com/index.html
December 4th, 2005 at 12:56 pmJudd
“Of course, George W. Bush doesn’t go to soldiers funerals.”
wwallace
“The president routinely meets with wounded soldiers and the families of the fallen. Judd is lying scum. But we already knew that.
Dude, you are a moron. Do you read anything before you post?
December 4th, 2005 at 12:56 pmSome emotion from Stan Goff, who has a son in Iraq:
An exit is not a strategy. An exit is a command.
If the commander in chief won’t give that command, then you in Congress — if you want to salvage anything that looks vaguely like a conscience or a soul — will refuse to grant this administration another penny to continue this war. We are not hearing you when you tap dance about political “realism.” The mounting mass of corpses, that you have walked over every time you voted a cent to continue this war, is about as real as it gets. Don’t you dare ever lecture military families and veterans about realism. And don’t you doubt that we understand power.
You may think you can respond to your careerist concerns in the face of reversing polls. You may think you can pretend to do something, that you can bewilder us into accepting half a loaf better than none.
To the tiny handful of you in Congress who have said what we say, “Out Now!,” we commend you and thank you for your principled voices.
To those of you who are openly supporting this criminal administration, we’ll see you in the street, and history will consign your names to the chapters about imperial bullying, comb-over machismo, and cognitive mediocrity.
http://stangoff.com/?p=222
December 4th, 2005 at 12:58 pmYou know the Repub slime bags have been searching for a word to discredit Murtha …anything but the “C” word ( coward) because they know that doesn’t fly. By saying he’s “too emotional” they are trying to make him look weak. It’s the same thing certain men pull on women. “women are so “emotional” or “Emo” You just can’t reason with em.” Well, I don’t buy their fake compassion for Murtha….” poor Murtha, he’s just so…you know…emotional. But we respect him!!!” Bullshit. The Gop has lost it’s soul and will fight in any way they can. A lot of it has to do with claiming the “tough” card though. We are touch….not emo.
December 4th, 2005 at 12:59 pmRe Jay’s post:
“John McCain says and does what benefits him politically and not what’s right, this has become clear (with the exception of his stance on torture). His opinion on Murtha is insignificant.
F*ck John McCain. That said, I think he’s our next president. Ugh!”
I agree he is a total political sell out. And with everything else except your last sentence. If we all pull together, he will not be president
December 4th, 2005 at 1:02 pmTP is nitpicking on this one. I watched McCain criticize Bush plenty of times this morning. Not enough troops, etc.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:05 pmI am glad TP is nit picking. Nit pick the hell out of every word that comes out of these bastards’ mouths.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:08 pmTP is lying. They are paid propagandists, that’s what they do.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:09 pmNow liberals are trying to “Swift Boat” McCain! ROFL
December 4th, 2005 at 1:11 pmStan Goff
December 4th, 2005 at 1:11 pmhttp://www.counterpunch.org/
Wally,
When did Bush meet routinely with Cindy Sheehan?
You are one sick son of a bitch, but never mind answering as as far as I am concerned you are dead meat. Go crawl in your hole with your boyfriend.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:16 pm“Of course, George W. Bush doesn’t go to soldiers funerals. That’s why his policy in Iraq has been so successful.”
I remember when Bill Clinton went to a funeral; probably of someone he had killed. He was yucking it up with one of his toadies until he saw the camera…a sad look and a tear appeared two frames later.
I’d respond to the remark about Bush’s responsibilities, I guess the President of the Untited States should be forced to attend each and every funeral of the men under his command but the fact is there’s nothing to say to someone who’d write something so foolish and hateful.
I will say this about that coward and traitor John Murtha. My guess is he doesn’t get to attend near as many funerals of dead warriors as he’d like. My guess is the families have him bared as they don’t want to have to look at the face of the man who energetically supports the Sunni Ba’athist scum who killed their hero.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:17 pmwwallace
In Case you missed it , This is ,was, has Been an attack. An ONGOING ISSUE.
Published: Thursday, March 25, 1999
Now liberals are trying to “Swift Boat†McCain! ROFL
Comment by wwallace
Is John McCain a War Hero?
The senator’s five years as a prisoner of war have been widely viewed as heroic. But as he prepares a White House bid, a small group of detractors is determined to expose him as a wartime traitor.
By Amy Silverman
Published: Thursday, March 25, 1999
December 4th, 2005 at 1:18 pmwwallace,
Yes I am sure that everyone here agrees that me pointing out the fact that you are a complete moron means I hate America.
Have you served in the military. Nope, didn’t think so.
I have and you are trying to swiftboat me.
Here is my post about how stupid you are. Wanna answer the question? Or do you want us to wait for 184 posts before you realize how stupid you are?
Judd
“Of course, George W. Bush doesn’t go to soldiers funerals.â€
wwallace
“The president routinely meets with wounded soldiers and the families of the fallen. Judd is lying scum. But we already knew that.
Dude, you are a moron. Do you read anything before you post?
December 4th, 2005 at 1:20 pmClyde, President Bush did in fact meet with Mama Moonbat Cindy Sheehan, you ignoramus. ROFL
December 4th, 2005 at 1:21 pmTo those of you who are openly supporting this criminal administration, we’ll see you in the street, and history will consign your names to the chapters about imperial bullying, comb-over machismo, and cognitive mediocrity.
http://stangoff.com/?p=222
Comment by Don
You don’t have the guts to see us “in the streets”. I wish you did.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:21 pm“I will say this about that coward and traitor John Murtha.”
Coming from a pussy that won’t join the military, you are a joke.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:21 pmSpudge, your failed efforts to serve as a gay Boy Scout leader do not count as “serving in the military”. ROFL
December 4th, 2005 at 1:22 pm“Clyde, President Bush did in fact meet with Mama Moonbat Cindy Sheehan, you ignoramus. ROFL”
He din’t meet with just Cindy Sheehan moron, she was in a group of 273 people. Yeah, that is pretty personal.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:23 pm“Spudge, your failed efforts to serve as a gay Boy Scout leader do not count as “serving in the militaryâ€. ROFL”
Coming from somebody that is too much of a pussy to join the military, you have no credit here. Pussy.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:23 pm“Spudge obviously hates his country, that’s why he wants America to lose the war.
Comment by wwallace — December 4, 2005 @ 1:10 pm”
On what evidence is that statement based? I’m sure you aren’t just saying that because you’re too afraid to have your real opinions out in the open to be ridiculed.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:24 pm“You don’t have the guts to see us “in the streetsâ€. I wish you did.”
Considering that you have been called out by two different people and pussed out both times, you are a joke.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:24 pmAlot of Wounded and Kill are a Result of Accidents, Unexploded Ordinance(From Bomb Carpeting, which means American made Unxploded Munitions. I saw them when I was in Afganistan.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:25 pm“On what evidence is that statement based? I’m sure you aren’t just saying that because you’re too afraid to have your real opinions out in the open to be ridiculed.”
John,
Both of these guys are beyond chicken hawk. They are chicken shit.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:25 pmDon – thanks for the link. Emotional reality.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:27 pmSpudge, #33: Prove it. back up your assertion. ROFL
December 4th, 2005 at 1:29 pmJohn, prove you’re not a moron. State the difference between statements of opinion and assertions of fact. Thanks in advance. ROFL
December 4th, 2005 at 1:31 pmI-RIGHT,
I was in the street on 9/24, were you? Or perhaps you were busy packing for your trip to Iraq to make it over the way you want it. But I doubt it. Chicken-hawks can’t fly, they just spout nonsense that makes a lot of money for some people out of the corpses of others.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:31 pm#39
You want me to prove you weren’t in the military?
You are against a war hero like Murtha and support a draft dodger like Bush. It is easy to prove.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:36 pmDon is a chickenhawk.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:36 pm“John, prove you’re not a moron. State the difference between statements of opinion and assertions of fact. Thanks in advance.”
That’s easy too. Everything you post is opinion and we back everything with facts. ROFL.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:37 pmSpudge is a draft dodger like Clinton. Spudge works for the other side.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:37 pmwwallace,
You said spudge hates America and wants us to lose the war. Why do you feel justified in making that statement? I know it’s your opinion, but I was asking you to explain why you feel the way you do in a logical manner.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:38 pmwwallace,
You don’t even know what a chicken hawk is chicken shit.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:38 pmSpudge can only call me names, because he has no facts or arguments to post.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:41 pmYou can always tell when church is out and I get some help around here attacking you liberals. I-RIGHT-I shows up calling Murtha “a coward and traitor” and telling the rest of the liberals they don’t have “the guts”. And wwallace, who only pauses long enough to put away her Bible before she jumps on the computer calling SpudgeBoy (a former serviceman) a “gay Boy Scout leader” and calling Judd “lying scum”.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t being a good conservatives like those two make you think twice about the family values they preach? I mean, sure they are two, complete, conservative dipshits just like me; and yes, they have never served in the military; but so what? I mean, at least they aren’t afraid to say shit when they have a mouthful.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:42 pmwwallace, Whos WAR? What WAR?
December 4th, 2005 at 1:42 pmI didnt Know there is a WAR GOing on. TELL ME ABOUT IT,Please.
John, my conclusions about Spudge are based on reading a number of his hate-filled rants. You may read his vitriolic bile and come to a different conclusion; that is your right.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:43 pmwwallace, What is the War all about?
December 4th, 2005 at 1:43 pmTell me.
wwallace, What is the War all about?
December 4th, 2005 at 1:44 pmTell me.
What is the Justification?
“Spudge can only call me names, because he has no facts or arguments to post.”
You just keep telling yourself that as you feel safe behind your PC. Wanna meet up? Mano a mano? Think you got what it takes to back up your words?
December 4th, 2005 at 1:44 pmJoe Sixpack, like Spudge, has never served.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:44 pmSorry Spudge. I’m married, and not gay. Perhaps Joe Sixpack will meeet for a date. ROFL
December 4th, 2005 at 1:45 pmwwallace, What is the War all about?
December 4th, 2005 at 1:46 pmTell me. Are you trying to AVOID MY QUESTION????
“Sorry Spudge. I’m married, and not gay. Perhaps Joe Sixpack will meeet for a date.”
Chicken shit can’t backup his own words. Anybody that isn’t man enough to back up what he says is just a troll. Goodbye little baby chicken shit troll. If you can’t be a man (like take 184 posts to state your stance on whether Saddam was involved in 9/11) you are not worth my time. Loser.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:48 pmSpudge,
Nobady claimed Saddam was directly involved in 9/11.
And you shouldn’t get so upset that every man you ask won’t go out with you. It’s a numbers game. Chin up.
ROFL
December 4th, 2005 at 1:51 pmWell, I hate to disappoint you, wwallace, but I retired from the US Army as a 1stSgt. Among my former units were the 173rd Airborne (Pathfinder), 193rd Bde (Panama), 173rd Bde in Alaska, Drill Instructor at Ft. Dix, NJ. My last unit was with the 8th Inf Reg. of the 4th Division (Mech).
Correct me if I’m wrong, but now its you and I-RIGHT-I’s turn to brag a little. I mean, us righwing conservative warhawks should speak up a little here against all the lying cowards and traitors.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:53 pm“Nobady claimed Saddam was directly involved in 9/11.”
you did. I got you on record.
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/01/lynne-cheney-unhinged/#comments
Post number 185:
“Did Saddam have something to do with 9/11?
or
Did Saddam have nothing to do with 9/11?â€
Yes, definitely.
Since we didn’t liberate Iraq based on a direct connection to 9/11, the question is irrelevant.
Comment by wwallace — December 1, 2005 @ 8:06 pm
You are a lying sack of shit that won’t even stand by your own words.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:54 pmwwallace, You are on Ignore list.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:54 pmUntil you answer my Question.
What is the War all about?
Tell me. What is the Justification?
I watched that program and my observation is that McCain has lost his cojones . He is running for the presidency in 08 . I think he lost the election before before throwing his hat in the ring . Too cautious to hurt Georgie Girl’s base .
December 4th, 2005 at 1:55 pmThe Alliance Rove ,Cheney , Rummy who’s grand design for the country is to change back to time of Mc Kinley ,back to a laissz faire econommy , are not about to let Mc Caine ruin their Grandiose Plan .Aside from the oil issue that is the foremost issue why we are in Iraq and Allito is part of that plan . Why hell let’s shoot little boys in the back , for a 10 dollar theft and let the Kenny Lays off the hook with millions .
What Irks me is these two bit prostitutes in Iraq profiteering from this War.
December 4th, 2005 at 1:58 pmI.E. Wallace paying them?
wwallace,
I used to be a chicken-hawk, when I was a lot younger and volunteered to go to a place called Vietnam. Then I woke up. I saw a clumsy destructive foreign military force (us) trying to impose our will and our ways on another culture, one which few (or none) of us really understood. And then I saw the lies that were made trying to cover up this ignorance, which is a human trait, we all do it on occasion. But the difference is that an ignorant government (an oxymoron) makes a policy of lying, and they do it to make themselves and their friends rich on the ‘inconsequential’ corpses of others. Innocent others.
So here we are in Iraq, deja vu all over again. The government lies because they don’t have a clue. Here’s some extracts from a News Briefing with Lt. Gen. Martin Dempsey, commander, Multinational Security Transition Command in Iraq (MNSTC-I) Friday, December 2, 2005
Lieutenant General Martin Dempsey is the commander of the Multinational Security Transition Command in Iraq, and as such, he and his organization are responsible for assisting the Iraqi government in the development, organization, training, equipping, sustaining the Iraqi security forces.
Q: General, Tom Bowman with the Baltimore Sun. General Abizaid said in the spring that the Iraqi forces could take the lead by the end of 2005, and then he later amended it to say that maybe the spring or summer of 2006 they could take the lead. And now, this week with the National Strategy for Victory in Iraq that was released, it talks here about in the short term, you’ll be standing up security forces, and then in the medium term, you’ll be, quote, “in the lead, defeating terrorists.” How do you define the medium term? How many years off would that be?
GEN. DEMPSEY: Well, I’m not really exactly familiar with how we translate calendar years into short and midterm. I can tell you what my part of it is, and that is to build the force that then goes into the field and begins to perform, but there’s a performance aspect as well. It’s not just sticking it out there. It’s got to actually be able to perform. And so there’s a much more holistic answer to that question.
Q: Sir, this is the National Strategy for Victory in Iraq that the president released this week. Have you seen it? It says medium term, Iraqi forces are in the lead. I’m just asking you to define that.
GEN. DEMPSEY: Yeah, sure. I did see it. I got it yesterday when it was released, and I have not yet made sure that I completely understand the time horizons. But I’m sure that the definitions in there are consistent with the definitions we’ve been using over here. What you’re asking me for is dates, and I’m not prepared to give you those.
http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2005/tr20051202-4401.html
December 4th, 2005 at 2:04 pmWhy doesn’t the White House honor the dead?
Why doesn’t the White House defend Rove’s innocence?
I’m confused!
Why do Iraqis kick the American puppet out of the mosque while they throw their shoes at him?
December 4th, 2005 at 2:05 pmJoe Sixpack never served.
Spudge, that’s right, I said “yes, definitely” either Saddam was involved, OR he wasn’t involved. ROFL
December 4th, 2005 at 2:06 pm“Spudge, that’s right, I said “yes, definitely†either Saddam was involved, OR he wasn’t involved. ”
So you are admitting to being a spineless piece of shit that won’t stand behind his words. You are useless as a human being. ROFL :()
December 4th, 2005 at 2:10 pmSpudge,
To keep doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome can lead to insanity! YOU must IGNORE I-D-I-O-T-S!!! Their ignorance can lead to symptoms of dillusion that they actually are making a VALID point!
I CHALLENGED I-WRONG, gave him ALL of my info, EVEN created a spot for him at SILL, and he wimped out…I’d beat his ass and then play some basketball to get a REAL challenge, because he is clearly weak and INFERIOR to me in HONOR and CREED of being a man!
Wwallace claims to be married (knowing what frustration would be in that frigid relationship) and it is IRONIC that he/she/it has NEVER served ONE DAY in the military and claims to know what a WAR is and/or who wants to win or lose it!
If you RESPOND to these pests, they keep coming around…If you IGNORE them, then they call you names to avoid the facts. I refuse to respond to COWARDS who talk about military service and have NEVER served…
To me, that is the ULTIMATE insult. “If” they had a clue about those who are serving and helping the military men and women in the ARMER FORCES, then they would not be calling you names and questioning your credibility!
I talk about BUSH, but I NEVER insult the people who serve, because unlike those who INSINUATE they know…Some of us here actually do know the TRUE DEAL about combat!
December 4th, 2005 at 2:15 pmOkay…
BUSH ~~~~~> FUNERALS?
SIMILAR to…
OIL ~~~~~~~> WATER!
NEVER gonna happen! BUSH is an IDIOT and does not want to face these families. He gives a speech to the group, and then darts out like a thief in the night!
TOO EMOTIONAL??? Hmmmm… I guess it would be easier to sit and sanitize yourself to the horrors of the deaths you cause, only to go to the Rose Garden and say how bad you feel about the families losses…Forget the fact that A LOT of familes have REBELLED against him and are asking for STRAIGHT answers that HE (BUSH) clearly doesn’t have…
McCain seems to have selective amnesia, because wasn’t it one of his campaign pledges to do more for the Vets and the BUSH administration demolished his ass with his sentimentality towards Vietnam and his POW record? So, now it is wrong to have emotions in Congress? I guess a body count, is just a number for McCain?
December 4th, 2005 at 2:24 pmWell, wwallace, I put up part of my military record in #60. And I don’t even have anything to prove since I don’t call others “cowards” and “traitors”(Just lots of other shit, heh! heh!).
Correct me if I’m wrong, but time to ante up, my rightwing, conservative friend. You and I-RIGHT-I both. What were those units you served with? Come on. For anyone who has ever served, the units are right on the tip of their tongues.
You and I-RIGHT-I wouldn’t call others who have served or been wounded in the service of their country “cowards” or “traiters” unless you had served yourselves, right? I mean, that would make you both a couple of extremist hypocritical nazi-assed blowhards without any credibility.
Now, about those military records of yours?
December 4th, 2005 at 2:25 pm“IraqVet” never served one day in the military.
December 4th, 2005 at 2:25 pmwwallace,
December 4th, 2005 at 2:28 pmHAs you where it wants you. hooked on fools.
just ignore it , itll go away.
“IraqVet: “I NEVER insult the people who serve”
“IraqVet”: “BUSH is an IDIOT and does not want to face these families.”
A) Since Bush served, “IraqVet” isa liar and a hypocrite.
B) Since Bush routinely meets with families of fallen veterans, “IraqVet” is again a proven liar.
December 4th, 2005 at 2:28 pmDid McCain go to the Frist school of
December 4th, 2005 at 2:28 pmvideo diagnosis?
Is he qualified to pass judgement on other
people’s emotional state?
Should we discuss McCain’s emotional state?
I have found McCain to be a disapointment overall, but
he is a republican, so I guess he has to do what
Rove tells him to do.
Joe Sixpack lied in #60.
December 4th, 2005 at 2:29 pmIgnore wwallace Comments. It,ll go away, Just like Bush.
December 4th, 2005 at 2:32 pmThat was good Spudgeboy.
December 4th, 2005 at 2:34 pmSpudge, Bush would never give the finger to loyal, patriotic Americans like me. That’s obviously directed at Democrats. ROFL
December 4th, 2005 at 2:35 pmWally,
One more time Asshole!
“Routinely, adverb, of a repetitious nature; more than once. “Webster’s New World Dictionary, G. & C.Merriam Company, Springfield, MA 1976″
Bush did not ROUTINELY meet with Mrs. Sheehan. Once is not, repeat not, routinely.
Again you have been proven to be a lying sack of shit.
December 4th, 2005 at 2:36 pmI find it interesting how differently
December 4th, 2005 at 2:37 pmpeople who served in a war SEEM to see wars of choice.
The difference in the way they consider war
leads me to believe experience in war must
as they say, “be hell”.
Also interesting is how easily many of those who have not
served in a war sound over-eagar for war.
Clearly many people who have not served are not
pro-war, but it seems that serving in a war
makes you think very hard about other options.
What do you Vets think?
Clyde, since I didn’t say he met with that Commie-Symp Cindy Sheehan more than once, you’re either lying or you’re an illiterate, or both. ROFL
December 4th, 2005 at 2:37 pmFor more of DUHbya’s famous fingers just click on Clyde.
December 4th, 2005 at 2:38 pmI agree Iraqvet, it’s best just to ignore those poor buggers who couldn’t think their way out of a wet paper bag.
December 4th, 2005 at 2:38 pm“Clearly many people who have not served are not
pro-war, but it seems that serving in a war
makes you think very hard about other options.
What do you Vets think?”
afterthought. You go it right on the nose. A war of choice is just that.
December 4th, 2005 at 2:39 pmHey, wwallace, my MOS was 11B5X. What was yours? Just between you and me, I bet you was an Airborne Ranger, huh? I mean, every armchair warrior I’ve ever run into says he was one. Was that 2nd Bn. at Ft. Lewis, or 1st at Ft. Stewart?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t it just piss you off when someone like I-RIGHT-I tries to pass himself off like he has been there? And that fat old Marine, Jack Murtha with his 37 years of honorable, distinguished service—I mean, who you gonna believe him or Cheney and his 5 draftdodging deferments?
December 4th, 2005 at 2:40 pmmeet with ME,wwallace .
December 4th, 2005 at 2:44 pmJoe Sixpack is a draft dodger.
December 4th, 2005 at 2:45 pmJust look at the leader of the greatest country on the planet. He is embarassing.
December 4th, 2005 at 2:49 pmTop 11 reasons Dubya planned to bomb the al-Jazeera network
11. Wanted to send a message to CBS.
10. Ran out of anthrax.
9. Promised Rupert Murdock a lucrative, “no-bid” contract.
8. Al-Jazeera White House correspondent tried to ask a “follow-up” question.
7. It’s only terrorism when it’s done to us.
6. Attorney General advised that he couldn’t torture the al-Jazeera staff.
5. Al-Jazeera website linked to a flash animation depicting Dubya as dim-witted.
4. “Philosophy of life” doesn’t extend to journalists.
3. Thought he needed a diversion from the U.S. use of chemical weapons in Fallujah.
2. al-Jazeera ran colorized version of “It’s a Wonderful Life.”
1. Osama bin Laden wasn’t there.
December 4th, 2005 at 2:52 pmWwallace, I liked it better when you used those little faces with the keyboard. You sly girl, you! I got your number, honey, and you can’t jerk my chain now. Know what? I think I like you more than aphrodite. Besides, aphrodite is married. How’d you like to have a beer and see if you want to be my bitch?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I promise not to belch or fart if we go out like most redneck conservatives do. Besides, I think you’ll like me. I mean, hon my winkie is a lot bigger than I-RIGHT-I’s little bitty one.
December 4th, 2005 at 2:53 pmBack to Murtha.
December 4th, 2005 at 2:58 pmHere is a guy who has spent his entire adult
life either in the military or supporting it.
He suggests we are on the wrong path and
is immediately called “Michael Moore wing” and
“emotional”.
Who are the patriots here?
I almost choked to death on this one.
http://www.toostupidtobepresident.com/shockwave/nosepick.htm
December 4th, 2005 at 2:58 pmWhen I saw it, I couldn’t believe McCain said that aloud. He has lost any respect I may have once had for him — he is the consummate politician. Anyone who would endure the slurs, lies and innuendoes that the Bushes have thrown at him and his family, and then support Bush, the man and his policies, has drastically reduced himself. He also ducked questions about ethics in the Abramoff scandal. Politically, I don’t think I will ever trust him.
December 4th, 2005 at 2:59 pmafterthought, “Who are the patriots here?”
Certainly not you. ROFL
December 4th, 2005 at 3:00 pm“IraqVet: “I NEVER insult the people who serveâ€
“IraqVetâ€: “BUSH is an IDIOT and does not want to face these families.â€
A) Since Bush served, “IraqVet†isa liar and a hypocrite.
B) Since Bush routinely meets with families of fallen veterans, “IraqVet†is again a proven liar.
Comment by wwallace — December 4, 2005 @ 2:28 pm
A) BUSH served???
National Guard…NO COMBAT..and 2 (questionable) weeks, and the ARMY convieniently misplaced his DD-214, doesn’t qualify him as a VETERAN…
Your point? I see you stand corrected!
B) He meets with a group of families for a ONE time deal, and then he tosses them (unless they are rich, he needs a photo-op, and they MUST be Republican)!
BUSH has NEVER met with ANY family (except for TWO) more than ONCE! I would not consider that ROUTINE!!! Besides I said FUNERALS you IDIOT!!!
Be careful when you talk to grown-ups, or you may get you ass whipped!
December 4th, 2005 at 3:00 pmMcCain sucks. He allowed Bushie to stomp all over him and then endorsed Bushie as President.
Proof that he’s spineless.
December 4th, 2005 at 3:00 pmMarie didn’t explain what is wrong with what McCain said.
December 4th, 2005 at 3:01 pmWhat a Wally!
December 4th, 2005 at 3:04 pmFakeIraqVet has just insulted every member of the US military who is not currently serving in a combat zone. No decent American, let alone a veteran, would do that.
December 4th, 2005 at 3:05 pmAnother interesting twist is that
December 4th, 2005 at 3:07 pmMcCain used “emotional” as the put-down.
Wasn’t there a “whisper campaign” that
suggested that McCain was “emotionally
unstable” due to his time as a POW?
Is this a case of the “abused” becomes
the “abuser”?
McCain is a weasel.
December 4th, 2005 at 3:08 pmFakeIraqVet has just insulted every member of the US military who is not currently serving in a combat zone. No decent American, let alone a veteran, would do that.
Comment by wwallace — December 4, 2005 @ 3:05 pm
See Spudge??? My point exactly!!! To DIGNIFY this with a response would be IDIOTIC!!!
Now on to better things…
YOu IMAGES were Classic!!! I will print one for my C.O.
December 4th, 2005 at 3:11 pm#101, hilarious!
December 4th, 2005 at 3:13 pmafterthought, why is the word “emotional” a putdown?
December 4th, 2005 at 3:15 pmHahahahahahahahaha
#101 IS CLASSIC!!! Dayum, that one hurt the stomach muscles…
My trainees got a kick out of that one!!! That one was too much Spudge!
December 4th, 2005 at 3:15 pm#114
That’s why I turned to mocking him with images of his own stupid leader. Go to that link in post #104. That is freaking hilarious.
“and they MUST be Republican”
IraqVet,
That is so true. These NeoCon zombies don’t even realize that Cindy Sheehan was a republican that voted for Bush. She just wants to know what noble cause her son died for.
But, just like our little pet troll here, the NeoCons won’t answer any question or stand up for what they believe.
December 4th, 2005 at 3:17 pmwwallace is an obnoxious ignoramus — ignore him and he will retreat to his sandbox to play war with his toy soldiers.
December 4th, 2005 at 3:18 pmCoward, chickenshit, chickenhawk. Look them up and you’ll find wwallace’ name there.
Well, wwallace, I do have to disagree with you about Marie. What she said relates to McCain’s credibility, which right now, is pretty low. This guy was dragged thru the mud by the Republican Party, accused of fathering a black daughter out of wedlock, being mentally unstable after years of POW torture, etc.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but then he crawls to the podium stand alongside Cheney’s sock-puppet in order to save Bush’s tired ass during the last election after being shunned by the Administration for 4 years? And going against Kerry who was a very close friend? I mean, what kind of shit is that? Even a rightwing, redneck like me has to ask how he can have the gall to mention that Murtha is being “too emotional”. I mean, just what does it take to create a little “emotional” backbone in this guy? Someone to piss in his beer?
December 4th, 2005 at 3:18 pmWwalrus,All I want to know is……
December 4th, 2005 at 3:19 pmIraqVet, Spudge, and Marie: be a little nicer to wwallace or you’ll make her mad.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if I play my cards right I might be able to get into her pants.
December 4th, 2005 at 3:24 pmYou gotta stop it Spudge!!!
The laughter is getting contagious!!! I think that those images would make a good calendar?
December 4th, 2005 at 3:27 pmHahahahahahahahahaha…Go Joe!!!
But YOU may be disappointed! Remember, they (Repubs) believe in Intelligent Design…so procration may not be a part of the birth equation???
I would say bring a cross and wooden stake with you. Because wwallace sounds kinda creepy…
December 4th, 2005 at 3:29 pmOverall, the administration’s treatment
of loyal (to the country) patriots
like:
-> Paul O’Neil
-> Colin Powell
-> Richard Clarke
-> Rep. Murtha
-> General Shinseki
-> Sen. McCain
is truely shameful.
December 4th, 2005 at 3:30 pmI suspect history will judge BushCo.
harshly in this regard (On many other issues as
well, I suspect).
Checking out the image feature. Hope I got it right.
December 4th, 2005 at 3:30 pmShit.
December 4th, 2005 at 3:30 pmHi Ryan,
#124, see #109.
December 4th, 2005 at 3:31 pmHey, IraqVet, she beats the blowup doll I keep in my closet.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but even with the picture of Ann Coulter I have taped over the face, wwallace would be much a much better choice right now.
December 4th, 2005 at 3:34 pm#121, ROFL
December 4th, 2005 at 3:37 pmYou are on a roll today!!
Ryan, I kind of like those big ugly pink bottoms you mentioned in #130. Reminds me of the redneck gals I hang with down at the bar.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but its those with the pasty-white dimply butts that turn me off (unless I’ve got a buzz on).
December 4th, 2005 at 3:42 pmKnow what I can’t figure out? Why those gals are so chubby and those with cowboy hats are so skinny.
Mc Cain lost his cojones . When he calls Murtha emotional , he’s become a YES MAN for the Cheney rove Rummy tripartite.
December 4th, 2005 at 3:42 pmThat’s what we need for president , another idiot who’s string are pulle.
If a picture is better tha a thousand word , look at the cover of the dec,5 Nyorker magazine .It tells the true story of who is running the country.
Cindy…
If YOU are (if fact) Ms. Sheehan, please accept my deepest condolences for the loss of your son. I apologize for the uncertainty; however, anyone can use a pseudo-name in this forum. To suffer the loss of a loved one in this senseless combat is difficult to imagine and I can appreciate your frustration with those who were voted by the public, and ONLY cater to the select…
However, the EXPECTATION any intelligent discourse from wwallace will result in disappoint and additional frustration, followed by ignorant rhetorical bantering that will only prove their self-serving interests rather than any plausible or factual data to support their claims.
Again, for those WHO have served and those who know about combat, WE understand the duties and actions that are asked when we take the OATH. However, we also understand that a “REAL†PRESIDENT would step up to meet those DIRECTLY affected by this conflict and answer the questions asked of him. To give your child to this country, I feel that it should be HIS HONOR to meet with you and NOT vice versa.
December 4th, 2005 at 3:44 pm#131…Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Geez, Joe!!! YOU ARE on a Roll!!!
Ann Coulter…Yuk! That must be an anorexic doll!!!
Dayum, that one choked me up!!! Think you can melt that ice between wwallace’s legs? I heard she was colder than an eskimo in he nether regions?
At least that’s what I heard?
December 4th, 2005 at 3:46 pmMurtha is a true patriot . He is not emotional . He is wise. He knows Iraq is no longer our problem . We won as much we gonna win there . Let’s get the hell out .
December 4th, 2005 at 3:47 pmYa gotta appreciate Joe Sixpack’s sarcasm and wit.
December 4th, 2005 at 3:55 pmhardass, why do you accuse Murtha of having no emotions? That’s an insult.
December 4th, 2005 at 3:56 pmFakeIraqVet never served.
December 4th, 2005 at 3:56 pmYeah, IraqVet, I just let a little air out of it and turn the light out. Its real skinny and lifelike like that.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I like to abuse her that away, slap her around, and repeat the title of her book over and over again: “How To Talk to a Liberal, If you must?” This is how, bitch!
December 4th, 2005 at 3:56 pmHahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…
I hope you have the same luck with wwallace!
We should all be so lucky!!!
Go get her Joe!
December 4th, 2005 at 3:58 pmIt sounds like Joe Sixpack ends a date the way Bill Clinton does – “You better put some ice on that.”
December 4th, 2005 at 4:04 pmFakeIraqVet never served.
Comment by wwallace — December 4, 2005 @ 3:56 pm
Okay???
Prove It?
I’ll help ya…
PLDC in Ft. Benning, GA. (Distingushed Honor Graduate)
Soldier of the Year in Ft. Gordon, GA.
Soldier of the Month Ft. Gordon, GA.
BNCOC in Ft. Sill
Basic Training Instructor at Ft. Jackson
DESERT STROM VETERAN (Bronze Star Medal)
Currently service:
30th Field Artillery…Ft. Sill, OK
Now…
PROVE ME WRONG, BITCH!
December 4th, 2005 at 4:05 pmThe name is SGT. WILTZ (Actual Rank is SSG)…I am not hard to find!
December 4th, 2005 at 4:08 pm“Secretary” Lieberman
Wonder why Holy Joe has been to sucking up to Bush, including his unrealistic remarks after his recent (fourth) trip to Iraq?
Atrios says he may replace Rumsfeld: — It’s hard to imagine a worse choice for Secretary of Defense, except maybe the stupidest fucking guy on the face of the earth, but rumors are apparently floating around the ether that he may replace Rumsfeld. Schieffer said it on Face the Nation, Sullivan on Chris Matthews’ show, etc.
It’d be a smart move for the Bush administration. The press loves them some Lieberman, and they love them some “bipartisanship.” Rumsfeld’s clearly mad as a hatter these days and needs to go for reasons going beyond mendacious incompetence. Connecticut has a Republican governor at the moment and could appoint a Republican replacement in the Senate, making it easy for the new “incumbent” to win the seat in an election.
And Holy Joe’s already gone throgh his bit of ritual hazing, demonstrating his willingness to put his name on a pack of lies in service to the Bush administration.
http://atrios.blogspot.com/
December 4th, 2005 at 4:08 pmFakeIraqVet has never served.
December 4th, 2005 at 4:12 pmDon’t pay no attention to IraqVet, wwallace. That’s his way of getting the Iraqi sand out of his shorts. I must apologize for his rude behavior, calling you a bitch like that. I mean, I just don’t know what’s got into him, with you disrespecting his service and all.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I would never abuse a gal. As long as she didn’t give me the clap, anyway. My momma raised me better than that.
Say, before you and I go out together, you don’t have the clap do you?
December 4th, 2005 at 4:15 pmPoint Proven…
December 4th, 2005 at 4:16 pmHahahahahahahahahahahahaha…
Joe, that was smooth!!! I apologize to the folks who read that display…
I will consult with Dr. Phil!
LMAO!!!!
December 4th, 2005 at 4:18 pmI hope patriots like Murtha are not discouraged
December 4th, 2005 at 4:18 pmby the cowards on the Right.
Actually, I am pretty sure Murtha can take
care of himself against any number
of right-wing cowards… he is trained,
they are only certified on the “101 keyboard”.
I outrank FakeIraqVet. I’m a General. ROFL
December 4th, 2005 at 4:18 pmHey, General Wallace! Ma’am, on behalf of the military folks here, I bid you welcome. And don’t pay no attention to the sorry-assed liberals here who signed my name to the posts about you.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but you outraking IraqVet means that you like to be the dominate one. I mean, does that suggest you will be slapping me around for foreplay or what? I mean, as a far rightwing conservative, I’m game for most anything after I get a few beers down me.
December 4th, 2005 at 4:26 pmMcCain is weak! Have you notice how he takes the easy road to going against the administration. He knows not much is going to be done against torture, because even the supreme court has not pushed it’s rulings.
December 4th, 2005 at 4:36 pmBut to stand up to bring the soldiers home and save our country’s economy and the safety. He doesn’t have the balls to stand against those that have financed his campaign. He wants the nomination in 2007 for 2008 presidential run. It’s all about McCain and what he wants!
Spineless creep!
I think you are wearing her down, Joe!!!
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
December 4th, 2005 at 4:36 pmAs for McCain, I figure they must
December 4th, 2005 at 4:37 pmhave promised support in 2008 for
him to prostitute himself like this.
I suspect they said the same thing to Condi.
The joke will be on both of them when BushCo.
supports Jeb in 2008.
Well, wwallace, I was assuming you are a woman, judging by the nature of your posts. I mean, unlike most of liberal women who post here, they wouldn’t say shit if they had a mouthful. Unlike you.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if you are a guy in drag, I would be real disappointed. That’s true. But I could always bend you over and put Ann Coulter’s picture on the back of your head.
I told you I was a real rightwing conservative.
December 4th, 2005 at 4:37 pmJoe Sixpack, “Well, wwallace, I was assuming you are a woman, judging by the nature of your posts.”
That sounds pretty sexist. Joe apparently hates women. ROFL
December 4th, 2005 at 4:48 pmwww. Murtha is not emotional in your sense of understanding . When you say emotional , you mean bar talk ,sissy , girly like emotional . He has the emotion and courage to go to Walter Reed and attend funerals of the sacrificed ones .Not like your sissy, girly , coward Georgy girl. I do not know what kind of general you are , but i can tell you sound like a big fat slob like Rush and for sure you never got close to any battle field.
December 4th, 2005 at 4:54 pmmccain, you numbnuts sonofabitch. Oh yeah, and you’re a kiss-up bootlicker too.
December 4th, 2005 at 4:57 pmYou know, wwallace, its the little things that gave you away. The words like “sexist” and gentle references to women. Not knowing shit about the military. Even guys who never served have more knowledge about it from watching movies and such. No, hon, you just have a very feminine touch with your words. All prim and proper like a girl or a hypocritical conservative male.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but saying you are a general. That was real lame, but I got a kick out of it. Still, if you did turn out to be a guy, I have to tell you that the rednecks down at the bar where I hang out would bitch-slap the crap out of you just for being so wussy. You know?
Are you going to have a beer with me, or am I stuck with my blowup doll again tonight?
December 4th, 2005 at 4:59 pmIf this war had no effect on him , macCain has really sold out . Washington sure has a corrupting effect . He’s become brain dead like a bunch of them . May be Rove was on target when during the first election he was put down , like psychologically unfit due his time in Hanoi.
December 4th, 2005 at 5:10 pmI give Murtha a lot of credit to speak out.
December 4th, 2005 at 5:12 pmHe knew that “hell hath no fury like a”
chicken-hawk scorned.
hardass says, “He has the emotion and courage to go to Walter Reed and attend funerals of the sacrificed ones .Not like your sissy, girly , coward Georgy girl.”
But hardass just posts ad hominem lies, because he’s full of hate. Of course President Bush visits the sounded and meets with hefamilies of the fallen.
I post facts:
December 4th, 2005 at 5:33 pmhttp://search.yahoo.com/search?p=president+visits+walter+reed
I suspect McCain suspects he will be passed
December 4th, 2005 at 5:38 pmover in 2008, but what choice does he have?
It really is his only shot.
wetwallace-
Apparently, you suffer from an affliction called denial. You deny yourself the nerve to see the ugly side of war and not accepting the truths of Spudge and Iraqvet who know more about military experience and skills than you. Apparently you say these anti-military slurs while you sit at home in your mama’s basement eating Ho-Hos and pretending that your Ann Coulter blow up doll is giving you a blowjob.
Everytime we tell you about what we know about you know, you just cover your ears and refuse to hear the truth. For once stick your head out of yuor ass, quit picking your nose like your president Chimpy does and join us in the real world. If not, then remove yourself from this site, troll.
December 4th, 2005 at 5:50 pmJimbo, calling me names won’t change the fact that you’re a troll who hates America, Chimpy. :()
December 4th, 2005 at 5:52 pmMcCain is the typical flip-flopper. He’s losing each chance he gets for a higher office by being Bush’s bitch.
December 4th, 2005 at 5:52 pmI hope McCain does not become a bitter
December 4th, 2005 at 5:53 pmtroll like Gollum after 2008.
That would be a waste.
At least McCain can always be proud that
December 4th, 2005 at 5:56 pmhe was NOT a chicken-hawk.
#166, that is true, because McCain, like President Bush, served as a fighter pilot. He didn’t dodge the draft like Clinton did. :()
December 4th, 2005 at 6:01 pmHardass…wwallace has a point…He DOES visit Walter reed…but EVERY TIME he does, something bad happens and he does not go to Ward 54!!!
Here’s the details:
BUSH PAYS LIPSERVICE TO VETS, THEN SLASHES THEIR HEALTH CARE
Late last week President Bush visited combat veterans at Walter Reed Medical Center. During his visit, he said “We have made a commitment to the troops, and we have made a commitment to their loved ones, and that commitment is
that we will provide excellent health care – excellent care – to anybody who is injured on the battlefield.”
His comments stand in stark contrast to the policies he has pushed – and the record he has amassed – as President. Just this year alone, the President “announced his formal opposition to a proposal to give National Guard and
Reserve members access to the Pentagon’s health-insurance system”- a slap in the face to thousands of troops, especially considering “a recent General Accounting Office report estimated that one of every five Guard members has
no health insurance”. The President also this year proposed to cut $1.5 billion (14%) out of funding for military family housing/medical facilities. This followed his 2002 budget which, according to major veterans groups,
“fell $1.5 billion short” of adequately funding veterans care.
This is not the first time the President has staged a photo-op to thank veterans at Walter Reed and then proposed policies that hurt veterans. A little less than a year ago, the President visited the medical hospital, and then on the same day announced his proposal to cut off 164,000 veterans
from the VA’s prescription drug discount program.
The result of the President’s harsh treatment of veterans is that “more than 235,000 veterans are currently waiting 6 months or more for initial medical appointments” with “many veterans waiting 2 years just to be seen by a doctor.” At Ft. Stewart, Georgia, UPI reported “hundreds of sick and
wounded U.S. soldiers including many who served in the Iraq war are languishing in hot cement barracks here while they wait – sometimes for months – to see doctors.” And CBS News reports that the administration appears, in some cases, to be denying benefits to soldiers wounded in Iraq.
Specifically, many soldiers say they are seeing their pay and health benefits severely reduced after they are badly wounded.
http://www.corporations.org/pipermail/corporations_corporations.org/2003-December/000102.html
Just the facts!
December 4th, 2005 at 6:01 pmMurtha has to be trashed. The bushlandia group knows that he is getting his feed from the army generals who hold him in high regard, so, you see, they must trash him.
Now, as to John McCain. Ask him to see his wounds from the torture he says hed underwent. You wont find any, and neither will anyone else. He cooperated with every communist agent he could, got special treatment, and lived the life of ease in the north.
It will all come out if he tries to run for president and gets the nomination. wanna bet?
December 4th, 2005 at 6:04 pmIn fact, FakeIraqVet, President Bush has increased funding for military health care.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/11/20041111-1.html
Just the facts!
December 4th, 2005 at 6:05 pmwetwallace- Dubya never saw any action as a “fighter pilot.” The only action he saw had to do with some frat boy pals and victimizing pledges. Typical premonition of what he would do later in life a President. He never really gets any action unless he gets juiced up on whskey and cocaine.
Pablo-the Army Generals that Murtha talk to are on the front lines and know what’s going down. Don’t try to think that your god, Dubya Bush knows anything about anything. He knows nothing. McCain served his country well, but has not been in touch too much with anyone currently on the front lines like my representative of my state does.
December 4th, 2005 at 6:09 pmI think you can tell that both McCain
December 4th, 2005 at 6:15 pmand Murtha have actually seen warfare.
That makes a big difference in their
credibility.
Still, Murtha gets the edge for
standing up to chicken-hawks.
McCain is such a hypocritical wus. What did he do when Rove f’d him up the bum in South Carolina and wrecked his chances to be President with smears that he didn’t support veterans, that he supported gays, and that he had an illegitimate child. He got all rattled and emotional in a key debate and rolled over like a log. If he can’t stand up and be a man, McCain should just keep his mouth shut.
December 4th, 2005 at 6:17 pmI think “Commander Codpiece”
December 4th, 2005 at 6:19 pmmight see things differently if he
was actually in combat rather than
hiding in TANG.
wetwallace- You can’t think up of anything original to say you KKK scum, so why don’t you go back to your little basement and stay there till your mama calls you! Oh, and while you’re at it KKK skank, off of this blog.
December 4th, 2005 at 6:19 pm– to serve our highest- priority veterans, including low-income veterans, those with service-related disabilities, and those who need the VA’s specialized services. ?????
December 4th, 2005 at 6:28 pmwhat a crock of shit. this dosnt help homeless veterans living under bridges!
Fact Sheet: Honoring the Courage of America’s Veterans
Today’s Presidential Action
Today, President Bush commemorated Veterans Day with a ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery to honor the courage of America’s Armed Forces.
December 4th, 2005 at 6:34 pmThe President is committed to honoring our Nation’s veterans, and has proposed unprecedented levels of funding for veterans. His Fiscal Year (FY) 2005 budget for the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) represents an increase in overall funding for our Nation’s veterans of almost $20 billion — or 40 percent — since FY 2001. It includes a 41 percent funding increase in veterans’ medical care spending since FY 2001. President Bush’s VA medical care budget increases enable the VA to meet its core medical mission — to serve our highest- priority veterans, including low-income veterans, those with service-related disabilities, and those who need the VA’s specialized services.
“ROFL ”
Comment by wwallace — December 4, 2005 @ 1:51 pm
After reading like thirty posts that you’ve ended the same way (today alone), my question to you would be, aren’t you filthy from all that rolling around on the floor? Or is that where your computer is? You might get a better perspective on things if you got up once in a while.
December 4th, 2005 at 6:39 pmI wonder if H.W, wishes he let junior
December 4th, 2005 at 6:40 pmserve in combat rather than pulling strings
to get him into TANG.
Maybe Barbara over-ruled him as she seems to
wear the pants… not that there is anything
wrong with that.
Anyway, I suspect H.W. thinks junior
starts wars of choice because he never
fought in one.
John McCain is a horse’s ass. All thios “war hero” ever did was enthusiastically participate in the illegal terror bombing of North Viet Nam, get busted for it, and do some well deserved time. Who gives a damn what he says?
December 4th, 2005 at 6:44 pmalright, i repeat,
wally, m.a., any other righty:
accountability? anytime soon?
does jesus condone war?
does jesus condone the persecution of homosexuals?
you like to use that word ‘coward’, but all of you obviously brave rightwingers still have no answers for me…
maybe they’ve all packed up and enlisted for iraq?
December 4th, 2005 at 6:48 pmJimbo,
I’m so sorry wally is being a racist asshole toward you.
THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!!!
I think his remarks warrant his being banned from this site.
I’m going to contact TP, and I urge you all to do the same.
Calling an African American such things is immoral.
December 4th, 2005 at 6:53 pmI am truly shocked, and again apologize for his hateful remarks.
It must be a wrenching decision – whether
December 4th, 2005 at 6:54 pmto pull strings or let your child serve
in combat.
It is a good thing that only the elite
have to deal with a decision like that.
Anyway, I still think Murtha has a lot of guts
to stand up to the vindictive chicken-hawks.
He risked getting H5N1 after all.
To IraqVet,
I am horrified by wally’s inpuning your service to our country.
I am proud of you, and all that you have done to help this country.
Please know that we all appreciate you.
December 4th, 2005 at 6:55 pmTo JoeSixpack,
Thank you for your service to our country.
Now bitch-slap that thing into next Tuesday..!
December 4th, 2005 at 6:56 pm#176. everything is a joke to wwallace.
December 4th, 2005 at 6:59 pmHe may think it’s funny, BUT,…
It does NOT excuse such outright racist behavior.
He has definately crossed the line.
I am sickened.
December 4th, 2005 at 7:03 pmMcCain went over to the dark side when he endorsed Bush for President last year.
Now he is using the same smear tactics against Murtha as Bush used against him in the South Carolina Republican Presidential Primary.
How low can you go Sen. McCain? The Devil knows!
December 4th, 2005 at 7:04 pmMcCain, if you remember, was treated like rotalty when he got back aft vietnam. so , of course he went to the dark side.
December 4th, 2005 at 7:27 pmroyalty
December 4th, 2005 at 7:42 pmMcCain will get ’swiftboated’ by the ring-wing spin machine one more time. Like Charlie Brown running to kick the ball while Lucy holds it for him. Rest assured, the right-wing spin machine will destroy him and they will lfly Sam Brownhack into the Capitol on angles wings to the sound of trumpets.
-GSD
I suggest Mr. McCain listen to the Who again: “Won’t Get Fooled Again”.
December 4th, 2005 at 7:47 pmThis whole thing is a Farce. By the time the money gets distributed out to the states and to VA., there is none left for the homeless or unemployed like me.
December 4th, 2005 at 7:48 pmhttp://www.whitehouse.gov/
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/11/20041111-1.html
December 4th, 2005 at 7:52 pm#189 GSD,
One of the best songs EVER!
December 4th, 2005 at 7:53 pmI like “My Wife” and “Baba O’Riley” (no relation, hee)
oh hell, the whole album is great.
wwallace is a member of the Gay rights movement.
December 4th, 2005 at 8:18 pmI wonder if Rove has something to blackmail
December 4th, 2005 at 8:21 pmMcCain with. It sure would explain why he still
spins for BushCo after what they did to him.
I think Murtha has become TOO OLD. The MSM is using him to attack Bush and it’s sad.
The left was able to defeat America in Vietnam. They will NOT be able to do the same in Iraq
December 4th, 2005 at 8:21 pmwe clearly, definitely need a mod system – perhaps like slashdot, say. noise overwhelms any signal.
December 4th, 2005 at 8:27 pmMurtha is a true patriot willing to
December 4th, 2005 at 8:28 pmstand up to chicken-hawks in an attempt to
do what’s right.
Good for him.
We could use many for like him in both
parties.
Good point, people like roo who add nothing to the debate should be screened out. Members of the Klan like Jimbo should be screened out.
December 4th, 2005 at 8:29 pmNo decent American patriot uses the term “chickenhawk.”
December 4th, 2005 at 8:29 pmIf only McCain could stand up to the
December 4th, 2005 at 8:30 pmchicken-hawks, but alas, he is trading
his sole for 2008, when BushCo.
will betray him.
It is unfortunate that those who have
December 4th, 2005 at 8:35 pmnot served in warfare cannot take
guidance from those who have.
It is like a Greek tragedy with
this administration.
In this administration, the Commander in Chief and the SecDef served.
December 4th, 2005 at 8:40 pmIt seems that:
Link to hubris
Will be the downfall of this administration.
December 4th, 2005 at 8:44 pmWell, hubris and unimaginable incompetence.
December 4th, 2005 at 8:46 pmOh, and corruption, we can’t forget that.
December 4th, 2005 at 8:47 pmafterthought is corrupt and incompetent.
December 4th, 2005 at 9:04 pmDid I forget cronyism?
December 4th, 2005 at 9:14 pmBushCo is clearly really big on cronyism.
wwallace,
i’m still waiting.
what’s your answer?
when will republicans begin to take accountability?
would jesus condone war?
would jesus condone persecution of homosexuals?
i find your silence to be very telling.
the fact that you’ll still insult others here while not answering a direct set of questions does seem to suggest that either you don’t know the answers…
…or you’re afraid of the answers.
which is it?
December 4th, 2005 at 9:24 pmProgressaurus:
so then are you for or against gays in the military? ROFL
December 4th, 2005 at 9:26 pmBushco seems to have an issue with accountability too,
December 4th, 2005 at 9:29 pmbut I don’t suppose the Greeks had a
fatal flaw WRT accountability, did they?
Cheney letting everybody know how long wwallace’s spine is:
December 4th, 2005 at 9:32 pmRumor is the right wing spin machine has photo’s of several high level Republicans in compromisng positions with Jeff Gannon. The threat of release of the pictures help to keep the party in line on close votes.
Also, rumors that Ken Mehlman smells alot like mothballs has been confirmed by another insider.
No confirmation of the rumor of the love child between John McCain and Lil Kim.
-GGSD
December 4th, 2005 at 9:46 pmwwallace,
so you don’t want to answer. or you’d rather answer by asking a very stupid question.
you really aren’t helping your cause. trolls like you only confirm the opinion that right-wingers are close-minded chickenhawk homophobes that don’t have the guts to take accountability.
so, one last time — do you have any real answers to my questions, or would you rather just hurl insults and demean yourself?
December 4th, 2005 at 9:52 pmProgreess, calling me juvenile names only proves you’re a typical closed-minded, unthinking liberal.
December 4th, 2005 at 9:54 pmIn the end, it surprises me that McCain
December 4th, 2005 at 9:58 pmwould attack a fellow Vet.
That is why I wonder why he is doing it.
Maybe:
-> Support in 2008
-> Blackmail
-> ?
still no answer.
i hope everyone else notices that wwallace has repeatedly refused to answer my simple questions. they are not difficult questions in the least. however, by refusing to answer these questions wwallace proves one of two things:
either,
a) wwallace has a lack of an ability to answer the questions due to psychoses, lack of intellectual adequacy or emotional immaturity
or
b) wwallace is a shill (or a plant) for the right and knows full well that the answers are contradictory to publicly stated republican morals, but doesn’t care because the truth is more about divisiveness and “hating liberals” than it is about adherence to a moral code
so, which is it, wwallace?
December 4th, 2005 at 10:04 pmor would you rather just answer the damn questions?
Progress, what questions?
December 4th, 2005 at 10:05 pmas if, wwallace. you’ve already copied and pasted the questions once in a puerile display of your mentality. you’re starting to act like a 6 year-old.
so, once again:
December 4th, 2005 at 10:10 pmwhen will republicans begin to take accountability?
would jesus condone war?
would jesus condone persecution of homosexuals?
I still think it is amazing that
December 4th, 2005 at 10:11 pmMcCain would play the “emotional”
card when it was whispered
against McCain previously.
Too weird.
wetwallace- Anything you say at this point convinces me
December 4th, 2005 at 10:21 pmand those who contribute here to assume that you are the most arrogant asshole on the face of the planet. You and your republican trolls and politicians are already losing a battle that you’re not winning. The same goes for McCain, Lieberman and the other flipfloppers.
wwallace post #58, this thread:
“Nobady claimed Saddam was directly involved in 9/11.”
Me post #60 this thread:
“you did. I got you on record.
http://thinkprogress.org/ 2005/ 12/ 01/ lynne-cheney-unhinged/ #comments
Post number 185:
“Did Saddam have something to do with 9/11?
or
Did Saddam have nothing to do with 9/11?â€
Yes, definitely.
Since we didn’t liberate Iraq based on a direct connection to 9/11, the question is irrelevant.
Comment by wwallace — December 1, 2005 @ 8:06 pm
You are a lying sack of shit that won’t even stand by your own words.”
wwallace
Post number 66 in this thread:
“Spudge, that’s right, I said “yes, definitely†either Saddam was involved, OR he wasn’t involved. ROFL ”
Me in this post:
There is absolutely no reason to even respond to wwallace. He doesn’t answer any questions and when he does, he doesn’t stand by what his says. The funny part is that he spins his own words. Truly amazing. None of the other trolls do this. They at least stand behind what they say.
December 4th, 2005 at 10:23 pm“when will republicans begin to take accountability?”
1860
would jesus condone war?
It depends, a just war like the liberation of Iraq, certainly.
would jesus condone persecution of homosexuals?”
Non sequitur, no one in America is persecuting homosexuals. Homosexual behavior is clearly condemned in the Bible though.
December 4th, 2005 at 10:26 pmTrue Blue-
I thank you very much for your support and for expressing your outrage over wetwallace’s comments.
However, I think it would be best not to ask this site to ban him for being an asshole. We’d be accused of forfieting his right to free speech. If anything, I welcome his very comments about any subject that he has
a perverse interest in. If he wants to be the asshole that he is, let him.
I have been through a lot of things worse than wetwallace’s comments. So I say let him continue with his worthless rants. We all know that we are right and he is wrong. And we will prove it all the time.
Thank you very much for your support. :)
December 4th, 2005 at 10:28 pmRyan, JIMBO, and Spudge are clearly violating the Terms of Use.
December 4th, 2005 at 10:28 pmYou don’t have the guts to see us “in the streetsâ€. I wish you did.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 4, 2005 @ 1:21 pm
LMAO! Let’s go back to that poorly attended pro-war rally after Cindy Sheehan’s big rally in D.C.
400,000 to 400? You guys crack me up!
December 4th, 2005 at 10:33 pmRyan, JIMBO, and Spudge are clearly violating the Terms of Use.
Comment by wwallace
So what? Your mother dated outside her species. We didn’t raise a stink about it.
December 4th, 2005 at 10:35 pmComment #227 clearly violates the site Terms of Use.
December 4th, 2005 at 10:36 pmfakeIraqivet: Did you read the “Terms of Use”? Didn’t think so.
I’m with wwalce on fakeIraqivet. If she really “served” and is currently “serving” then what’s she doing here attacking fellow Americans? Hmmm… Seems suspicious to me.
OT, McCain is really losing it by criticizing Murtha like that on national teevee. Repugs have no shame. No McCain, it’s the emotional 4-stars who have been begging Mutha to put thruth to power and tell it like it is.
December 4th, 2005 at 10:37 pmNo way McCain makes it in 2008. It just isn’t in the cards.
Race for President 2008
John McCain enjoys a birthday cake with President George W. Bush on August 29, 2005.Many current polls have him as one of the leading candidates in the 2008 Republican primary, but McCain has not given a definitive answer as to whether or not he will pursue the nomination in 2008 as a Republican.
In an interview in the June 2005 edition of Men’s Journal magazine, McCain said that he “absolutely” would like to be President of the United States, but has not yet decided whether or not he will run again in 2008. He indicated that he would probably not make a firm decision until 2007 about another run at the White House, citing family and Senate responsibilities. On an episode of the ladies television show The View, aired 8 November 2005, McCain remarked he would only make a decision after the 2006 mid-term elections, when he could be certain the mood of the American people was similar to his vision for America.
He will be 72 by the time the elections roll around in 2008, making him 2 years older than the oldest elected president Ronald Reagan, but he has dismissed concerns about his age and past health concerns, stating that his condition was “excellent.”
Though popular both with the press and the nation as a whole, McCain has made an enemy of rank and file Republicans who vote in primaries because of his high profile defection with key items of the party platform. His compromise (some say surrender) with the liberal Democrats on judicial nominations and his willingness to break with party leadership has caused several conservative groups to strongly oppose his candidacy for the Republican nomination.
December 4th, 2005 at 10:42 pmThese ass clowns have to turn left to win in 2006 and 2008. They will never do that. It’ll be fun to watch the lemmings go off the cliff.
December 4th, 2005 at 10:46 pmGood luck with that TOS complaint, girls. If you insult the site, the blog and the person who posted the thread, I’m sure TP will jump right on the issue for you. Send them an e-mail. Get Brent “Bozo” Bozell III to send a few.
December 4th, 2005 at 10:50 pmMcCain is a wuss.
December 4th, 2005 at 10:53 pmbaby-puppy…
I laid down a challenge to I-WRONG and WWALLY…
Here’s the deal…I am a soldier currently serving in the U.S. ARMY. Just because I enlisted, does not mean I am void of opinion to an unjust cause…
Have you SERVED? Do YOU intentd to?
As I ststed earlier…
FakeIraqVet never served.
Comment by wwallace — December 4, 2005 @ 3:56 pm
Okay???
Prove It?
I’ll help ya…
PLDC in Ft. Benning, GA. (Distingushed Honor Graduate)
Soldier of the Year in Ft. Gordon, GA.
Soldier of the Month Ft. Gordon, GA.
BNCOC in Ft. Sill
Basic Training Instructor at Ft. Jackson
DESERT STROM VETERAN (Bronze Star Medal)
Currently service:
30th Field Artillery…Ft. Sill, OK
Now…
PROVE ME WRONG, BITCH!
Comment by IraqVet — December 4, 2005 @ 4:05 pm
PROVE ME WRONG BITCH!!!
December 4th, 2005 at 11:01 pmthat’s a laugh wwallace. and still no answer. you know what i’m talking about. republicans had control of both houses since 1994 (the so-called “revolution”) and now also have the presidency. and yet you still want to blame ‘liberals’ and ‘clinton-ites’ for your failures. like you’ve been doing for THIRTEEN YEARS. you’re in charge, and things are a right mess.
well there you have it. wwallace thinks jesus would condone war. if you were to ask sincere christians this question, the vast majority would give you the real answer in less than one second flat: A RESOUNDING NO. it is ridiculous to say that jesus would condone any war of any kind. his teachings are in direct opposition to that sentiment. if you call yourself a christian, wwallace, you’ve got some learning to do. go ask your pastor or priest if he thinks jesus would condone war and get back to me.
non sequitur? not so fast wally. it all comes back to accountability. what is moral behavior? right-wing christians have been persecuting homosexuals for decades now. falwell blamed 9/11 on homosexuals. pat robertson tried to blame a hurricane on homosexuals. these are supposed republican ‘men of god’, and yet republicans will continually try to claim “moral values” as their sole property in any political debate.
and fyi, i didn’t say the bible, i said jesus. sure the bible said that — the old testament that is. but it also said you shouldn’t wear blended fabrics. and in case you forgot, there’s this thing called ‘the new testament’ which is what christians follow. that’s where jesus appears, just to refresh your memory. that would be the jesus that taught “bringing good news to the poor” and “love thy enemy”.
is it possible to express love with white phosphorous?
you’re a ridiculous hypocrite, and now it’s clear for all to see.
December 4th, 2005 at 11:03 pmSorry, vet, I went back and re-read and found I got my posts and names mixed up. I withdraw my previous comment. Apologies. That’s what I get for responding to trolls. Simply simply meant to defend a soldier.
December 4th, 2005 at 11:03 pmI think murtha is level headed…..for a guy that wants to abandon people and make us look like backstabbers…Yep…Murtha is thinking of the long term effects of running…pol pot would have loved him….
December 4th, 2005 at 11:05 pmwoludnt surprise me if wwalrus was OBL
December 4th, 2005 at 11:14 pmWait, I know.
December 4th, 2005 at 11:22 pmMcCain had the anti-torture bill and
Cheney was pushing torture.
Maybe this is retribution for being
against torture?
Kewl baby-puppy…
But, RYAN, Spudge, Truth, Freedom and others have seen my challenges and I still let them stand!
I’ve posted enough information that can be EASILY verified by the FOIA!
So, I am still waiting on them to come to FT. SILL and visit me! Because “if” they do, then THEY will NEVER make the mistake of challenging a soldier’s credibility again! All I ask is for ONE week with them in my BASIC TRAINING unit and I’ll bet you I’d have them crying after the first day!
SEMPER FI!
SHOOT, MOVE, COMMUNICATE
December 4th, 2005 at 11:23 pmRyan,
December 4th, 2005 at 11:24 pmwith regards to wwballess, mighty ass-pro-dikey, and i-likeguysdon’t-i
don’t you mean “islamo-fascist”?
Hey,
These guys are milbloggers of the right!
Like this!
William C. Bradford has resigned as an associate professor at Indiana University School of Law-Indianapolis, effective Jan. 1.
…
Bradford, 39, maintained that two left-leaning professors were leading the charge for political reasons. They disliked him because he was an Army veteran who supported the war, he said.
…
Donnelly had long been suspicious of Bradford’s background, he said. What really piqued his attention was the Silver Star claim — “it is a pretty high award for valor, and not many were awarded in Desert Storm.”
Independently, Donnelly and I requested Bradford’s service record from the Army. It showed he was in the Army Reserve from Sept. 30, 1995, to Oct 23, 2001. He was discharged as a second lieutenant. He had no active duty. He was in military intelligence, not infantry. He received no awards.
Meanwhile, Bradford promoted himself. He blogged on the law school’s student Web site. He did radio interviews. He went national on “The O’Reilly Factor.” David Horowitz, a champion for conservatives, took up his cause.
Only the pussies and phonies are pro this war. And a few wingnuts.
December 4th, 2005 at 11:25 pmhttp://www.blogsforbush.com/blogroll.shtml
December 4th, 2005 at 11:29 pmhttp://www.globeofblogs.com/
http://www.blogsofwar.com/
Kewl baby-puppy…
But, RYAN, Spudge, Truth, Freedom and others have seen my challenges and I still let them stand!
I’ve posted enough information that can be EASILY verified by the FOIA!
So, I am still waiting on them to come to FT. SILL and visit me! Because “if†they do, then THEY will NEVER make the mistake of challenging a soldier’s credibility again! All I ask is for ONE week with them in my BASIC TRAINING unit and I’ll bet you I’d have them crying after the first day!
SEMPER FI!
SHOOT, MOVE, COMMUNICATE
Comment by IraqVet — December 4, 2005 @ 11:23 pm
Phony.
What right thinking field artillery man in the U.S. Army says Semper Fi? A wannabe marine?
December 4th, 2005 at 11:30 pmKillCon…
I put SEMPER FI there, and IT IS a MARINE saying…I woulnd not want to be a Marine, because they take the land, and we hold it down!
However, I could say
RANGERS LEAD THE WAY
or
FIRST TEAM
or
BIG RED ONE
or
DUTY FIRST
If you’d like…Because I was attached to units who used those sayings as a part of comradarie! But, I stand corrected, and will use the FA temination for you, since limited minds with no recollection of my services is not present!
SHOOT, MOVE, COMMUNICATE
Is that Good Enough for you azzhole?
December 5th, 2005 at 12:02 amMcCain looks like a burn victim. They should have left him in whatever hole he was put in during Viet Nam.
I can’t stand this two faced, wimp. He’s nothing more that a patsy. In fact that’s his real name Patsy McCain. What a waist of good air space.
Now he comes up with a comment that Murtha is being too emotional.
That’s because McCains heart has been broken so many times he is not even a shell of a human being. Id feel sorry for him but he is hurting America by his hypocracy.
He wants to be liked and yet he can’t help but kiss the butt of the most outragoeus factions of this Republican horror war criminal show.
December 5th, 2005 at 12:03 amMcCain is trying to establish the conservative base that Bush had…
He will find himself on the wrong side of the fene, and I can only wonder if Mehlman is behind the switch in philosophy!
December 5th, 2005 at 12:07 amIs that Good Enough for you azzhole?
Comment by IraqVet
I’m just glad yer not a jarhead!
December 5th, 2005 at 12:12 amIt’s tough trying to figure out what McCaine really stands for. If he is truly a patriot, he would do what is best for the country – not his own corrupted party, one that screwed him over in 2000.
It is in the best interest of the country to cut the losses in Iraq and bring the troop home. The illusion that the war in Iraq has something to do with terrorism must be stopped. People must realize that the whole nation has been had. So this is not a partisan issue. It’s an American issue. More than two hundred billion dollars has been and thousands of lives have been wasted. And people can’t seem to wake up.
This is a real sad state of affair. America has been duped and robbed. Yet, they continue to bend over. We don’t need the “terrorists” to destroy. We are doing a good job ourselves in this self-destructive mode of operation.
December 5th, 2005 at 12:12 amSome of my best friends are jarheads.
December 5th, 2005 at 12:12 amSEMPER FI is a term used in business as well as the Marines. The first out of respect for their shere determination, courage and bravery and the second as a battle cry.
December 5th, 2005 at 12:13 amNot a good move for McCain. If the Dems put up Hillary in 08, and the Repubs put up McCain, I may have been voting republican in 08.
But Mr. Mcain, you just lost my “possible” vote.
December 5th, 2005 at 12:18 amKill Con,
Understood…I MEANT NO DISRESPECT…
But I know MANY terms that are attached to many units!!! Some Marines are fanatics about it; however, I am not one for the Paris Island routs and I am strictly U.S. ARMY…
But I am Commo, and I get attached to SEVERAL disciplines! I was with the FIELD ARTILLERY, ARMORED CAV, MLRS, JOINT-TASK FORCE, and INFANTRY…just to name a few! I know some Marines, and some that object to being called jar heads! I said SEMPER FI to them out of respect, because we all knew that each day could be our last while we were over there! I was fortunate to make it back, some weren’t!
I was in FOB Manhattan while in IRAQ, and it was a total shit hole!
I AM NOT a GUN BUNNY! I just make sure the troops are trained (while in Ft. Sill), but my REAL MOS is Comm Tech! I AM NOT trying to lose my hearing on those guns! Besides, my DRILL status is in SILL, and we always have to say that (Shoot, Move, Communicate) to the COMMANDERS!
I usually say “DUTY FIRST”
December 5th, 2005 at 12:24 amRYAN,
McCAIN: …I believe that the — by the way, I do believe we were greeted as liberators in many respects in many parts of Iraq. We really were. I remember the statue coming down and people being freed from prisons, etc…
McCAIN: I think the president has done a good job. I think he’s tried to — and particularly last week at the Naval Academy — given a very articulate presentation on the challenges that we face.
Is he on drugs? Something is fishy here? Wasn’t he on their shit list just prior to the elections, and now he’s singing their praises???
Yep, McCain has flipped!
December 5th, 2005 at 12:27 amWhat the Hell is Killcon Anyways, Sounds like Rat poison.
December 5th, 2005 at 12:39 amMarines aint shit in my books, bunch faggots.
December 5th, 2005 at 12:41 amI guess thats why they are well liked by people like wwalrus.
Marines are over in Afagnistan AND Iraq making Jackasses out of themselves in front of all the Locals,
December 5th, 2005 at 12:46 amThey run around pretending to be excercising in their little itty bitty Short shorts. its embarrassing.
I was ashamed being over there with those Jarheaded faggots all around the Bases.
Thats why I got the HELL Out of there.
I Swear, Had you any Idea what is going on over there, You would be soo ashamed. It was Sickening.
December 5th, 2005 at 12:48 amAm I missing something? How is feeling emotion bad for policy? I guess GOP-ers are used to legislating like robots.
December 5th, 2005 at 1:48 amSorry all, McCain may have a great military background (note I said may since I don’t know). He has lost it for the american people. He allowed his own party to beat him up and then instead of dumping the Bush regime for the damage they did to him he falls into line with the rest of the presidental wanna be’s and kisses every one’s butt while trying to capture some votes back and beat up on Murtha. Politician on both sides need to remove them selves from the pork trouth, clean up their act’s on lies,graft and illegal dealings. If they are not going to remain true to their constitutants wishes they are not going to get voted into office, when the voting machine mess is cleaned up, that is. Hilary as good as she was in the past will not get my vote now either, so all you right wingers can relax……Blessings
December 5th, 2005 at 8:58 amI have to laugh every time WWALLACE says that Bush served.
The idiot escaped serving at every turn. He was dragged, kicking and screaming into TANG. There he took basic air training and learned to fly.
However, what he flew was outdated, outmoded, mothballed training jets. His assignment, per the white house spin, was protecting the Gulf of Mexico. I must ask, was the gulf ever in any danger of being invaded by the Vietnamese?
With about half of his NG commitment met, he deserted to go to Alabama and work in a political campaign. He maintains that he transferred to Alabama, but there is no proof at all that he ever reported in there.
Do you call this serving your country WALLACE? I sure and the hell dont.
December 5th, 2005 at 10:26 amJohn mccain is a fraud and a phoney and a neo-con. Don’t be fooled by his rhetoric. He lines up with a constituency that will help get him elected, who will talk moderately and at the same time foster extremist views. Consider how many times he’s spoken out against torture then reversed field. Dems who want to prove that torture is wrong shouldn’t use mccain’s rhetoric as an example of good sound policy posturing. He’s as much a manipulator and mouthpiece for exttemist ideas as the entire administration. There isn’t a shred of credibility in the words he speaks or his works. He’s embraced the policy of people who’ve maligned him and now he sounds more and more like a war monger now that he doesn’t have to participate in this war. Please people, do not believe the hype about him.
December 5th, 2005 at 10:40 amMy Lawyer in Washington State is Ed Wolf. He’s got a big mouth, is a big ReTHUGlican hack here in Washington, and brags a lot. He told me the other day that he is McCain’s campaign chair for Washington State. So, he does have a machine in place!
PS – I replied something like, “well, that’s great, as long as you don’t decide to run for Secretary of State.” Wierd thing, he didn’t laugh…….
December 5th, 2005 at 11:50 amJohn McCain has no more morals, ethics or scruples than any other republiscum scalawag. People forget that he was a major player in the “Savings and Loan Scandal”. Any respect due him all went down the drain the day he joined Bushiva on the campaign trail AFTER Bushites had trashed his family (including spreading rumors in the racist scumbag south that he had fathered a black child). Any man who could embrace, smile at, and cajole the man who disparaged his wife and children (for political reasons or otherwise) is unworthy of trust or respect. But then republiscum aren’t people, they’re sheep!
December 5th, 2005 at 12:16 pmSpudgeboy #210,
December 5th, 2005 at 12:48 pmLMAO, and his “tool” too. And L’il Dick (Cheney) knows first hand, ‘er mouth, ‘er …never mind you get the picture! Why do you think wwallace is so obsessed with homosexuality?
SpudgeBoy #1,
Maybe somebody should let Barbara “beautiful mind” Bush know that if they extracted her “beautiful” brain out of that head of hers it would look EXACTly like her face.
December 5th, 2005 at 12:52 pmI belived Mc cain was different when he ran against Bush but the more I see and hear Idon`t like .Liberman and him must like Bush es kisses.I don`t care for people who talk out of both sides of thier mouth.
December 5th, 2005 at 1:35 pmThis will, of course, be the new Republican talking point to undermine Murtha. Led by McCain, the lap-dog who will be counted on to do whatever is in his own best interest, positioning himself for another run at the Presidency. After he was smeared by the Bush Smear Machine in the last Republican presidential primaries, to come out an whore himself for Bush is pretty pathetic. Does this clown, whom I used to respect, have a shred of dignity left?
December 5th, 2005 at 5:24 pmWhatever they are promising McCain (the “nod” in 08 perhaps?)it ain’t enough.
He just alienated all those on the left, like myself, who felt good about him.
I still think he is a great man, but I think he is also greatly deceived. Mr. McCain, you could have healed nation.
But as the saying goes, “If you lie down with dogs…..
December 6th, 2005 at 12:17 amI’ve lost respect for John McCain. He, of all people, should know better. Trivializing a respected colleauqe’s couragious position on such an important issue, by going on National TV to declare that he feels Senator Murtha is too emotional. Its a glaring exposure of his willingness to be used by the GOP machine.
I had been impressed by McCain’s independence, leading the GOP, but now I’m beginning to believe he’s just playing politics. Afraid to lose their support.
I don’t believe he’s ever recovered from the smack-down they gave him during the GOP Presidential Primaries and that’s why he’s content to trott in step behind them and GWB.
December 6th, 2005 at 11:55 am[...] On Sunday, Sen. John McCain — regularly lauded for his nonpartisan “straight talk” — attacked Rep. John Murtha for having “become too emotional” over the Iraq war. [...]
December 6th, 2005 at 12:07 pmBREAKING NEWS:
ABC/ TIME MAG NEW POLL
7 in 10 Iraqis say their own lives are going well, and nearly two-thirds expect things to improve in the year ahead.
You lost little liberal cowards are on the wrong side of history!
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