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	<title>Comments on: Bush Delegation Stages &#8220;Walk Out&#8221; at Climate Talks</title>
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		<title>By: Greek Island Cheap Holidays</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/09/un-walk-out/comment-page-6/#comment-4381278</link>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;A guide to finding cheap holidays&lt;/strong&gt;

Going on holiday can be expensive, which is why many people prefer to shop around for the best deals, and book everything themselves as opposed to using a travel agent. But while this may be the cheaper option, is it really the best?</description>
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<p>Going on holiday can be expensive, which is why many people prefer to shop around for the best deals, and book everything themselves as opposed to using a travel agent. But while this may be the cheaper option, is it really the best?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4381278', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: maRINA</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is retarded</description>
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		<title>By: wedding ring</title>
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		<dc:creator>wedding ring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2006 18:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;wedding ring&lt;/strong&gt;

wedding rings</description>
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		<title>By: Raymond Samuels, University of Toronto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raymond Samuels, University of Toronto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2005 02:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avoiding a Fate like Mars for Earth: Life on Planet in Imminent Danger

by Raymond Samuels
University of Toronto


Backgrounder:

Ignoring Global Warming risks precipitating a Global Pan-Famine/Starvation from Africa, right into Europe, the United States, and Canada, unless in can be stopped and reversed in a very timely manner. Such a milieu would occur with soaring temperatures, destoying the oceans, with corresponding record drought conditions in agricultural lands, threatening the food supply internationally.

The issue of Global Warming: 

There are apparently some people who think that the current &quot;Greenhouse Effect&quot; will simply lead to an &quot;evolutionary&quot; change in the global climate, so that climatic areas in the northern hemisphere like Canada, Scandinavia, Russia, Alaska in the U.S., and Antarctica in the southern hemisphere will become like one big tropical resort area like Tahiti, Cuba, or Jamaica. Soon everyone will be enjoying glorious sunshine, and sipping exotic tropical drinks in Nova Scotia, Baffin Island in the Canadian Arctic, or around the Arctic waters of Siberia, according to people with this apparent view. These people profess a dislike for the cold, and they therefore welcome any change that might eventually get rid of their abhored winter blaaaaahs.

Unfortunately for these people, such a view is not supported by critical scientific evidence, beyond &quot;scientific infomercials&quot; and propaganda pieces that have been sponsored by various well-financed Big Business interests. Indeed, it has been the job of the largely corporate owned mass-media in Canada, and elsewhere, to channel viewers, readers, and listeners into responses which will complement the elite pursuit of insatiable commercial profit. This corporate owned mass-media does not want to draw public attention to the dire fate which awaits the public, if &#039;the Economy&#039; is not rejuvenated in a manner that minimizes social and environmental costs.

The large scale &#039;owners of capital&#039; have structured the prevailing capitalistic economy to principally serve their interests in the pursuit of money, status, and power for themselves. Like heroine or &quot;crack&quot; cocaine drug addicts, &#039;capitalistocrats&#039; have become so addicted to the pursuit of a self-absorbing materialistic lifestyle predicted on money, status, and power, they would much rather apparently destroy our planet, and all life along with it, than to change their ways of drug-like abuse. Indeed, the mass-media in the prevailing capitalistocratic systems of Canada, the United States, United Kingdom, continental Europe, and elsewhere, are no less corrupt than the politicians which they are supposedly &quot;holding accountable&quot;.

The mass-media has apparently covered-up the fate that awaits humanity, and the rest of our planet, if there is not an immediate substantive response to the Global Warming threat beyond the relatively superficial responses associated with the extremely slow responses to fulfilling the relatively superficial Kyoto Protocol. Indeed, failure to redress Global Warming with great alacrity, will not mythically result in northern hemispheres being turned into extensions of &quot;tropical paradises&quot;.

The cold air masses that hover over the Arctic and Antarctic climatic areas of the planet are absolutely vital to moderating the temperatures of planet Earth. Global Warming by the irresponsible activities of greed driven private enterprises under American led &quot;global capitalism&quot;, are destroying these vital climatic areas at an alarming rates. As a human species, we have already witnessed deadly heat waves and humidity. The accompanying worsening cancer causing ultra violet (UV) rays due to rapid accompanying ozone depletion is already creating experiences which almost feel like a form of radiation poisoning. Further accompanying weather cataclysms including more devastating hurricanes like Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans in late Summer 2005, and other such &#039;&#039;weather events&quot; are only a relatively small tip of the iceberg so-to-speak.

The &quot;hellish&quot; summer of 2005 internationally has poignantly showed relative to the comparatively milder Summer 2004, that changes due to the abusive activities by human beings on the planet can be sudden, and extremely drastic. The current quantuum advancing devastating destructive impacts of American-led &quot;global capitalism&quot; are threatening to precipitate a catastrophic global drought in vital agricultural areas internationally that the world has never ever seen; due to unending rising temperatures, that will make the traditional temperature characteristics of the tropics today (that have benefited from Arctic and Antarctic moderation) seem like comparative ice boxes. Worsening &quot;hellish&quot; summers will lead into hellish other parts of the year also, with the prospective disappearance of the Arctic and Antarctic climatic areas. The inevitable result of such allowed phenomenon will be an ensuing Global Famine that so far, the world has also never seen spreading from the United States and Canada, into Europe and the rest of the World.

The rising temperatures of the oceans would eventually completely destroy all vital air (oxygen) producing plankton. A global crisis in agricultural production would be further accompanied by the cascading rapid dying out of all species in the ocean. The oceans would become dead polluted waters (the Gulf of Mexico has already been basically destroyed, with other parts of the ocean following pursuit).

In such a milieu of Global Famine, the world would be taken over by various warring military camps threatening each other with nuclear annihilation, and privately-run &quot;terrorist&quot; organizations trying to forcibly acquire what little of the Earth is left, for the exclusive use of elites, criminal syndicates, and gangs, leaving &quot;masses&quot; to perish in a milieu of spiralling global starvation, and poverty in a climate of socio-economic chaos and societal upheaval. Indeed, the mass-media has hypocritically ignored the extent to which &#039;capitalism&#039; is actually the root cause of growing apparent &quot;terrorism&quot; as more and more people are turning to violent political extremism, in the face of environmental destruction, related oppression, and overall declines in quality-of-living.

Having destroyed the air-producing ocean life, and rainforests under a greed driven ethos of capitalism, soon even the Global Air Supply would become threatened with the overall rapid decay of vital ecosystems. Global Warming promises the convert the whole Earth not into a tropical paradise, but rather into a giant coffin, where all life on the planet will miserably perish. The Earth will eventually become very similar to Mars sooner than you think, unless the whole economic system can rejuvenated from its self-destructive path of Global Warming and accompanying pollution including ozone depletion. The human race will simply become a footnote for other possible space exploring advanced species in the universe to study in their future scientific missions of archaeological discovery, unless humanity changes from its current overall destructive ways.

People in their communities can either choose to play Ninetendo games, and worry about various other materialistic lifestyle considerations in &quot;blissful ignorance&quot;, in the image of the elites who prevail over self-destructive capitalistocracies, or alternatively, people can choose to rally their governments for vitally needed social change. &#039;Sober&#039; members of the diverse public must either become actively engaged in redressing the shortcomings of the prevailing economic system, or face the dire consequences of their jaded attitudes. Members of the diverse public who are concerned about their immediate quality-of-survival cannot afford to be complacent. These members of the diverse public must use what little that remains of destroyed democratic systems (that have been taken-over by the substantive operation of &#039;capitalistocracy&#039;) to challenge corrupted government leaders.

Government leaders have allowed themselves to be seduced and &quot;bought-out&quot; by self-serving greed-driven interests, that operate against the vital affirmation of the quality-of-living interests of the diverse public that these leaders were supposedly elected to serve; and against the interests of quality-of-living seeking human beings internationally. So far, these government leaders have chosen to substantively ignore capitalistocractic activities that precipitate Global Warming, and accompanying pollution and worsening poverty which are being executed by &quot;generous donors&quot; to their political campaigns, that prop-up their political power. People must either turn away en masse, from the norms of the prevailing capitalism that has corrupted the integrity of democratic systems, or face certain Mars-like global self-destruction.


ABOUT THE AUTHOR:

Raymond Samuels has a professional background as an academic lectuer, and is the author/co-author/editor of diverse books.

Recommended Books:


Capitalism is Not Democracy, Part I, ISBN: 1894934636


The Kyoto Protocol Is Not Enough!, Part I:

Replace Capitalistocracy including the GDP Index
Toward a New Political Economy of
Social Justice and Environmental Protection

by Raymond Samuels II, ed.. ISBN: 1894839978, 2005

The Kyoto Protocol Is Not Enough!, Part II:

Replace Capitalistocracy including the GDP Index
Toward a New Political Economy of
Social Justice and Environmental Protection

by Raymond Samuels II, ed., ISBN: 1894934342, 2005


internet site reference: 

The Canadian National Newspaper
http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com

Jesustians
http://www.jesustians.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avoiding a Fate like Mars for Earth: Life on Planet in Imminent Danger</p>
<p>by Raymond Samuels<br />
University of Toronto</p>
<p>Backgrounder:</p>
<p>Ignoring Global Warming risks precipitating a Global Pan-Famine/Starvation from Africa, right into Europe, the United States, and Canada, unless in can be stopped and reversed in a very timely manner. Such a milieu would occur with soaring temperatures, destoying the oceans, with corresponding record drought conditions in agricultural lands, threatening the food supply internationally.</p>
<p>The issue of Global Warming: </p>
<p>There are apparently some people who think that the current &#8220;Greenhouse Effect&#8221; will simply lead to an &#8220;evolutionary&#8221; change in the global climate, so that climatic areas in the northern hemisphere like Canada, Scandinavia, Russia, Alaska in the U.S., and Antarctica in the southern hemisphere will become like one big tropical resort area like Tahiti, Cuba, or Jamaica. Soon everyone will be enjoying glorious sunshine, and sipping exotic tropical drinks in Nova Scotia, Baffin Island in the Canadian Arctic, or around the Arctic waters of Siberia, according to people with this apparent view. These people profess a dislike for the cold, and they therefore welcome any change that might eventually get rid of their abhored winter blaaaaahs.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for these people, such a view is not supported by critical scientific evidence, beyond &#8220;scientific infomercials&#8221; and propaganda pieces that have been sponsored by various well-financed Big Business interests. Indeed, it has been the job of the largely corporate owned mass-media in Canada, and elsewhere, to channel viewers, readers, and listeners into responses which will complement the elite pursuit of insatiable commercial profit. This corporate owned mass-media does not want to draw public attention to the dire fate which awaits the public, if &#8216;the Economy&#8217; is not rejuvenated in a manner that minimizes social and environmental costs.</p>
<p>The large scale &#8216;owners of capital&#8217; have structured the prevailing capitalistic economy to principally serve their interests in the pursuit of money, status, and power for themselves. Like heroine or &#8220;crack&#8221; cocaine drug addicts, &#8216;capitalistocrats&#8217; have become so addicted to the pursuit of a self-absorbing materialistic lifestyle predicted on money, status, and power, they would much rather apparently destroy our planet, and all life along with it, than to change their ways of drug-like abuse. Indeed, the mass-media in the prevailing capitalistocratic systems of Canada, the United States, United Kingdom, continental Europe, and elsewhere, are no less corrupt than the politicians which they are supposedly &#8220;holding accountable&#8221;.</p>
<p>The mass-media has apparently covered-up the fate that awaits humanity, and the rest of our planet, if there is not an immediate substantive response to the Global Warming threat beyond the relatively superficial responses associated with the extremely slow responses to fulfilling the relatively superficial Kyoto Protocol. Indeed, failure to redress Global Warming with great alacrity, will not mythically result in northern hemispheres being turned into extensions of &#8220;tropical paradises&#8221;.</p>
<p>The cold air masses that hover over the Arctic and Antarctic climatic areas of the planet are absolutely vital to moderating the temperatures of planet Earth. Global Warming by the irresponsible activities of greed driven private enterprises under American led &#8220;global capitalism&#8221;, are destroying these vital climatic areas at an alarming rates. As a human species, we have already witnessed deadly heat waves and humidity. The accompanying worsening cancer causing ultra violet (UV) rays due to rapid accompanying ozone depletion is already creating experiences which almost feel like a form of radiation poisoning. Further accompanying weather cataclysms including more devastating hurricanes like Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans in late Summer 2005, and other such &#8221;weather events&#8221; are only a relatively small tip of the iceberg so-to-speak.</p>
<p>The &#8220;hellish&#8221; summer of 2005 internationally has poignantly showed relative to the comparatively milder Summer 2004, that changes due to the abusive activities by human beings on the planet can be sudden, and extremely drastic. The current quantuum advancing devastating destructive impacts of American-led &#8220;global capitalism&#8221; are threatening to precipitate a catastrophic global drought in vital agricultural areas internationally that the world has never ever seen; due to unending rising temperatures, that will make the traditional temperature characteristics of the tropics today (that have benefited from Arctic and Antarctic moderation) seem like comparative ice boxes. Worsening &#8220;hellish&#8221; summers will lead into hellish other parts of the year also, with the prospective disappearance of the Arctic and Antarctic climatic areas. The inevitable result of such allowed phenomenon will be an ensuing Global Famine that so far, the world has also never seen spreading from the United States and Canada, into Europe and the rest of the World.</p>
<p>The rising temperatures of the oceans would eventually completely destroy all vital air (oxygen) producing plankton. A global crisis in agricultural production would be further accompanied by the cascading rapid dying out of all species in the ocean. The oceans would become dead polluted waters (the Gulf of Mexico has already been basically destroyed, with other parts of the ocean following pursuit).</p>
<p>In such a milieu of Global Famine, the world would be taken over by various warring military camps threatening each other with nuclear annihilation, and privately-run &#8220;terrorist&#8221; organizations trying to forcibly acquire what little of the Earth is left, for the exclusive use of elites, criminal syndicates, and gangs, leaving &#8220;masses&#8221; to perish in a milieu of spiralling global starvation, and poverty in a climate of socio-economic chaos and societal upheaval. Indeed, the mass-media has hypocritically ignored the extent to which &#8216;capitalism&#8217; is actually the root cause of growing apparent &#8220;terrorism&#8221; as more and more people are turning to violent political extremism, in the face of environmental destruction, related oppression, and overall declines in quality-of-living.</p>
<p>Having destroyed the air-producing ocean life, and rainforests under a greed driven ethos of capitalism, soon even the Global Air Supply would become threatened with the overall rapid decay of vital ecosystems. Global Warming promises the convert the whole Earth not into a tropical paradise, but rather into a giant coffin, where all life on the planet will miserably perish. The Earth will eventually become very similar to Mars sooner than you think, unless the whole economic system can rejuvenated from its self-destructive path of Global Warming and accompanying pollution including ozone depletion. The human race will simply become a footnote for other possible space exploring advanced species in the universe to study in their future scientific missions of archaeological discovery, unless humanity changes from its current overall destructive ways.</p>
<p>People in their communities can either choose to play Ninetendo games, and worry about various other materialistic lifestyle considerations in &#8220;blissful ignorance&#8221;, in the image of the elites who prevail over self-destructive capitalistocracies, or alternatively, people can choose to rally their governments for vitally needed social change. &#8216;Sober&#8217; members of the diverse public must either become actively engaged in redressing the shortcomings of the prevailing economic system, or face the dire consequences of their jaded attitudes. Members of the diverse public who are concerned about their immediate quality-of-survival cannot afford to be complacent. These members of the diverse public must use what little that remains of destroyed democratic systems (that have been taken-over by the substantive operation of &#8216;capitalistocracy&#8217;) to challenge corrupted government leaders.</p>
<p>Government leaders have allowed themselves to be seduced and &#8220;bought-out&#8221; by self-serving greed-driven interests, that operate against the vital affirmation of the quality-of-living interests of the diverse public that these leaders were supposedly elected to serve; and against the interests of quality-of-living seeking human beings internationally. So far, these government leaders have chosen to substantively ignore capitalistocractic activities that precipitate Global Warming, and accompanying pollution and worsening poverty which are being executed by &#8220;generous donors&#8221; to their political campaigns, that prop-up their political power. People must either turn away en masse, from the norms of the prevailing capitalism that has corrupted the integrity of democratic systems, or face certain Mars-like global self-destruction.</p>
<p>ABOUT THE AUTHOR:</p>
<p>Raymond Samuels has a professional background as an academic lectuer, and is the author/co-author/editor of diverse books.</p>
<p>Recommended Books:</p>
<p>Capitalism is Not Democracy, Part I, ISBN: 1894934636</p>
<p>The Kyoto Protocol Is Not Enough!, Part I:</p>
<p>Replace Capitalistocracy including the GDP Index<br />
Toward a New Political Economy of<br />
Social Justice and Environmental Protection</p>
<p>by Raymond Samuels II, ed.. ISBN: 1894839978, 2005</p>
<p>The Kyoto Protocol Is Not Enough!, Part II:</p>
<p>Replace Capitalistocracy including the GDP Index<br />
Toward a New Political Economy of<br />
Social Justice and Environmental Protection</p>
<p>by Raymond Samuels II, ed., ISBN: 1894934342, 2005</p>
<p>internet site reference: </p>
<p>The Canadian National Newspaper<br />
<a href="http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com</a></p>
<p>Jesustians<br />
<a href="http://www.jesustians.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jesustians.com</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=344495', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: free ringtone</title>
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		<dc:creator>free ringtone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2005 11:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;free ringtone&lt;/strong&gt;

free ringtone</description>
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<p>free ringtone<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=343162', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Quirky Outtakes &#187; Climate change</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/09/un-walk-out/comment-page-5/#comment-310492</link>
		<dc:creator>Quirky Outtakes &#187; Climate change</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Does anyone besides the Bush administration still deny that climate change is happening and we&#8217;re causing it? (And even then, do they really disbelieve or is just more profitable to deny it despite the evidence). The latest thing? It looks as if polar bears are drowning. And still, the Bush administration refuses to do anything about it. My favourite line from that last article: Compounding the embarassment, the U.S. delegation actually had to first walk in to the negotiations before they could â€œwalk out,â€ because they hadnâ€™t been regularly attending the meetings.   Filed under: End of Nomaddom, News that annoyed me enough to write about it by Todd Tyrtle &#124; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Does anyone besides the Bush administration still deny that climate change is happening and we&#8217;re causing it? (And even then, do they really disbelieve or is just more profitable to deny it despite the evidence). The latest thing? It looks as if polar bears are drowning. And still, the Bush administration refuses to do anything about it. My favourite line from that last article: Compounding the embarassment, the U.S. delegation actually had to first walk in to the negotiations before they could â€œwalk out,â€ because they hadnâ€™t been regularly attending the meetings.   Filed under: End of Nomaddom, News that annoyed me enough to write about it by Todd Tyrtle | [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=310492', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gregor Samsa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/09/un-walk-out/comment-page-5/#comment-296593</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregor Samsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I obviously did not, as Worfeus asserts, argue &quot;that the only actions are those that happened to be caught on camera&quot;. Whether Worfeus is too stupid to comprehend what I said or too dishonest to admit it only he can know.
Comment by wwallace â€” December 11, 2005 @ 1:23 pm &lt;/i&gt;

You didn&#039;t argue that the only actions were those captured on camera? Really? So, maybe you need to explain exactly what you meant when you poasted this: 

&lt;i&gt;WORFEUS, comparing a few isolated bad actions by US personnel that have been prosecuted to the systematic state sanctioned torture, rape, and murder perpetrated for years by Saddam Hussein is moral idiocy on a grand scale.
Comment by wwallace â€” December 10, 2005 @ 1:04 pm&lt;/i&gt;

The &quot;few isolated bad actions by US personnel that have been prosecuted&quot; -are those that were captured on camera.

What did you mean by that? 

And if you didn&#039;t argue that those were the only instances of abuse, does it mean you agree prisoner abuse is a widespread practice? 

I am sure WORFEUS really wants to know. I do too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I obviously did not, as Worfeus asserts, argue &#8220;that the only actions are those that happened to be caught on camera&#8221;. Whether Worfeus is too stupid to comprehend what I said or too dishonest to admit it only he can know.<br />
Comment by wwallace â€” December 11, 2005 @ 1:23 pm </i></p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t argue that the only actions were those captured on camera? Really? So, maybe you need to explain exactly what you meant when you poasted this: </p>
<p><i>WORFEUS, comparing a few isolated bad actions by US personnel that have been prosecuted to the systematic state sanctioned torture, rape, and murder perpetrated for years by Saddam Hussein is moral idiocy on a grand scale.<br />
Comment by wwallace â€” December 10, 2005 @ 1:04 pm</i></p>
<p>The &#8220;few isolated bad actions by US personnel that have been prosecuted&#8221; -are those that were captured on camera.</p>
<p>What did you mean by that? </p>
<p>And if you didn&#8217;t argue that those were the only instances of abuse, does it mean you agree prisoner abuse is a widespread practice? </p>
<p>I am sure WORFEUS really wants to know. I do too.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=296593', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WORFEUS</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/09/un-walk-out/comment-page-5/#comment-295044</link>
		<dc:creator>WORFEUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats&#039; it wwallace, keep cryin to momma, cause you got your ass whooped.

Shouldn&#039;t start it if you can&#039;t finish it.


Oh what am I saying? You guys are &lt;em&gt;always&lt;/em&gt; doing that. :&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats&#8217; it wwallace, keep cryin to momma, cause you got your ass whooped.</p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t start it if you can&#8217;t finish it.</p>
<p>Oh what am I saying? You guys are <em>always</em> doing that. :|<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=295044', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: wwallace</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/09/un-walk-out/comment-page-5/#comment-294951</link>
		<dc:creator>wwallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#245-247 clearly violate the site Terms of Use as well. Worfeus is only demonstrating that he&#039;s a repeat offender with no respect for the site rules, and no arguments to offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#245-247 clearly violate the site Terms of Use as well. Worfeus is only demonstrating that he&#8217;s a repeat offender with no respect for the site rules, and no arguments to offer.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=294951', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WORFEUS</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/09/un-walk-out/comment-page-5/#comment-294844</link>
		<dc:creator>WORFEUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But next time you decide to select &lt;em&gt;me&lt;/em&gt; for one of your pathetic &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Volksturm&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/em&gt;jabs, make sure you don&#039;t write a check with your keyboard that your brain can&#039;t cash :&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But next time you decide to select <em>me</em> for one of your pathetic <em><strong>Volksturm</strong> </em>jabs, make sure you don&#8217;t write a check with your keyboard that your brain can&#8217;t cash :|<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=294844', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WORFEUS</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/09/un-walk-out/comment-page-5/#comment-294832</link>
		<dc:creator>WORFEUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol, you are fun man, thanks,

feel free to come back again anytime your wittle cuckoo clock needs another cleanin :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, you are fun man, thanks,</p>
<p>feel free to come back again anytime your wittle cuckoo clock needs another cleanin :P<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=294832', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WORFEUS</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/09/un-walk-out/comment-page-5/#comment-294824</link>
		<dc:creator>WORFEUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LoL, you are pathetic sister, 

picked a fight, 

got your ass &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;whooped&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

and now runnin home cryin to mommy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LoL, you are pathetic sister, </p>
<p>picked a fight, </p>
<p>got your ass <em><strong>whooped</strong></em></p>
<p>and now runnin home cryin to mommy<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=294824', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: wwallace</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/09/un-walk-out/comment-page-5/#comment-294805</link>
		<dc:creator>wwallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#243 clearly violates the site Terms of use, as it is entirely ad hominem, does not address the subject, and contains no arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#243 clearly violates the site Terms of use, as it is entirely ad hominem, does not address the subject, and contains no arguments.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=294805', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WORFEUS</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/09/un-walk-out/comment-page-5/#comment-294764</link>
		<dc:creator>WORFEUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahh, out of ammunition are we? Good. 

Cause to be truthful I think your clock is just about as clean as I can get it asshole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahh, out of ammunition are we? Good. </p>
<p>Cause to be truthful I think your clock is just about as clean as I can get it asshole.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=294764', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: wwallace</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/09/un-walk-out/comment-page-5/#comment-294748</link>
		<dc:creator>wwallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worfeus, putting your lies and illogic in bold or all caps will not make them true or logical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worfeus, putting your lies and illogic in bold or all caps will not make them true or logical.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=294748', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WORFEUS</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/09/un-walk-out/comment-page-5/#comment-294741</link>
		<dc:creator>WORFEUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and when you are done explaining why your ironic argument against my statement that &lt;em&gt;the pictures that came out of Abu Ghraib were not indicitive of the only abuses&lt;/em&gt; was an accident, or whatever excuse or bs you can think of, I will be right here.

Right here to welcome you onboard to the growing group of Americans who believe abuse of prisoners is rampent in our military, and needs to be stopped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and when you are done explaining why your ironic argument against my statement that <em>the pictures that came out of Abu Ghraib were not indicitive of the only abuses</em> was an accident, or whatever excuse or bs you can think of, I will be right here.</p>
<p>Right here to welcome you onboard to the growing group of Americans who believe abuse of prisoners is rampent in our military, and needs to be stopped.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=294741', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WORFEUS</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/09/un-walk-out/comment-page-5/#comment-294712</link>
		<dc:creator>WORFEUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But hey, don&#039;t let me stop you genius. 

The floor is yours. 

Explain to us all what you were &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; trying to say.

Elaborate for us why your &lt;strong&gt;countering &lt;/strong&gt;my argument, my argument that the likelyhood that &lt;em&gt;the pictures that came out of Abu Ghraib were not indicitive of the only abuses&lt;/em&gt;, explain to us why your &lt;em&gt;argument of that argument&lt;/em&gt;, does not constitute your challenging the point.

Were all ears Einstein.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But hey, don&#8217;t let me stop you genius. </p>
<p>The floor is yours. </p>
<p>Explain to us all what you were <em>really</em> trying to say.</p>
<p>Elaborate for us why your <strong>countering </strong>my argument, my argument that the likelyhood that <em>the pictures that came out of Abu Ghraib were not indicitive of the only abuses</em>, explain to us why your <em>argument of that argument</em>, does not constitute your challenging the point.</p>
<p>Were all ears Einstein.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=294712', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WORFEUS</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/09/un-walk-out/comment-page-5/#comment-294691</link>
		<dc:creator>WORFEUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here let me illuminate your argument some more.


&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;em&gt;i.e. just because we didnâ€™t see something on film, does not prove it didnâ€™t happen. 

Well by that standard, just because we donâ€™t have film of WORFEUS raping, torturing, and killing his neighbors cat, doesnâ€™t mean it didnâ€™t happen. :D&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

See this is called a &lt;em&gt;ironic&lt;/em&gt; argument. You are giving a ridiculous example, and using my argument in this ridiculous example, to demonstrate how my argument does not hold water.

Basically, you were implying, albeit jokingly, that I rape, torture and murder my neighbors cat. It was a pun, a pun meant to insult me, and one that attempted to show the absurdity of my previous statement.

And like the idiot you are, you even confirmed it, by posting my statement above yours, to ensure we knew which point you were arguing.

Your nothing more than a liar, and I hate liars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here let me illuminate your argument some more.</p>
<blockquote><p>
<em>i.e. just because we didnâ€™t see something on film, does not prove it didnâ€™t happen. </p>
<p>Well by that standard, just because we donâ€™t have film of WORFEUS raping, torturing, and killing his neighbors cat, doesnâ€™t mean it didnâ€™t happen. :D</em></p></blockquote>
<p>See this is called a <em>ironic</em> argument. You are giving a ridiculous example, and using my argument in this ridiculous example, to demonstrate how my argument does not hold water.</p>
<p>Basically, you were implying, albeit jokingly, that I rape, torture and murder my neighbors cat. It was a pun, a pun meant to insult me, and one that attempted to show the absurdity of my previous statement.</p>
<p>And like the idiot you are, you even confirmed it, by posting my statement above yours, to ensure we knew which point you were arguing.</p>
<p>Your nothing more than a liar, and I hate liars.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=294691', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WORFEUS</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/09/un-walk-out/comment-page-5/#comment-294666</link>
		<dc:creator>WORFEUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yea, and your kinda of a dick too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yea, and your kinda of a dick too.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=294666', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WORFEUS</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/09/un-walk-out/comment-page-5/#comment-294662</link>
		<dc:creator>WORFEUS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2005 18:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are a LIAR. Go back and re-read your argument, LIAR. 



I ARGUED

&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;However if you think that the only actions are those that happened to be caught on camera, then your not a moral idiot, just an idiot&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

THEN YOU ARGUED BACK SAYING



&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;i.e. just because we didnâ€™t see something on film, does not prove it didnâ€™t happen. 

Well by that standard, just because we donâ€™t have film of WORFEUS raping, torturing, and killing his neighbors cat, doesnâ€™t mean it didnâ€™t happen. :D &lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

It&#039;s pretty funny to watch you squirm now, like a little brat liar, sitting there telling his mommy with choclate all over his face, &quot;no mommy, I did&#039;nt eat the candy&quot;.

Your a liar, and I don&#039;t care what you whine about, you made the argument right there. 

Prove me wrong! Show us from that twisted marble in that thick, dense cro-magnon skull of yours what you were arguing then. 

Why did you quote my argument, then &lt;em&gt;counter&lt;/em&gt; with yours?

Your just a &lt;strong&gt;liar&lt;/strong&gt;, and you just got caught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are a LIAR. Go back and re-read your argument, LIAR. </p>
<p>I ARGUED</p>
<p><em><br />
<blockquote>However if you think that the only actions are those that happened to be caught on camera, then your not a moral idiot, just an idiot</p></blockquote>
<p></em></p>
<p>THEN YOU ARGUED BACK SAYING</p>
<p><em><br />
<blockquote>i.e. just because we didnâ€™t see something on film, does not prove it didnâ€™t happen. </p>
<p>Well by that standard, just because we donâ€™t have film of WORFEUS raping, torturing, and killing his neighbors cat, doesnâ€™t mean it didnâ€™t happen. :D </p></blockquote>
<p></em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty funny to watch you squirm now, like a little brat liar, sitting there telling his mommy with choclate all over his face, &#8220;no mommy, I did&#8217;nt eat the candy&#8221;.</p>
<p>Your a liar, and I don&#8217;t care what you whine about, you made the argument right there. </p>
<p>Prove me wrong! Show us from that twisted marble in that thick, dense cro-magnon skull of yours what you were arguing then. </p>
<p>Why did you quote my argument, then <em>counter</em> with yours?</p>
<p>Your just a <strong>liar</strong>, and you just got caught.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=294662', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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