Comments on: Frist promises to trigger “nuclear option” http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:54:40 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: mjm1968 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-302120 mjm1968 Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:23:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-302120 if the Reptiles do the nuclear option for the alito nomination then the Demos should start using article 21 again, like Reid did recently, and shut off the Senate, on a weekley if not daily basis. alito is so conservative he really needs to be filibustered. and the blogs and media need to keep revealing his record and calling it what it is" conservative conservative conservative, just like Knight Ridder did recently. if the Reptiles do the nuclear option for the alito nomination then the Demos should start using article 21 again, like Reid did recently, and shut off the Senate, on a weekley if not daily basis.

alito is so conservative he really needs to be filibustered. and the blogs and media need to keep revealing his record and calling it what it is” conservative conservative conservative, just like Knight Ridder did recently.

]]> By: kindness http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-299684 kindness Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:54:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-299684 Justice A - the judiciary comittee found Ginsberg to be a moderate, even though she worked for who was it, the ACLU I think. Additionally, she hasn't shown herself to be "activist" in the sense that conservatives speak of. Admittedly, she has voted in the more liberal wing with most decisions. Alioto - we KNOW what he believes in and what he wants. The paper trail shows exactly how he would rule in given cases. It's exactly that rigidity that I object to (as well as the positions he chooses to champion). A SCOTUS has to have SOME level of an open mind to hear cases and decide on the merits of the case. You yourself admit that Alioto will rule against abortion (an example. I personally don't believe abortion is the biggest danger we face) ever single time. What really scares me is his willingness to side against the individual and for the government or a corporation every time. You as a conservative should also be fearful of an all powerful state aparatus. I thought "conservatives" considered individual freedom and liberty from a government to be paramount. What happened to you that you side with an all powerful government? Justice A – the judiciary comittee found Ginsberg to be a moderate, even though she worked for who was it, the ACLU I think. Additionally, she hasn’t shown herself to be “activist” in the sense that conservatives speak of. Admittedly, she has voted in the more liberal wing with most decisions.

Alioto – we KNOW what he believes in and what he wants. The paper trail shows exactly how he would rule in given cases. It’s exactly that rigidity that I object to (as well as the positions he chooses to champion). A SCOTUS has to have SOME level of an open mind to hear cases and decide on the merits of the case. You yourself admit that Alioto will rule against abortion (an example. I personally don’t believe abortion is the biggest danger we face) ever single time. What really scares me is his willingness to side against the individual and for the government or a corporation every time. You as a conservative should also be fearful of an all powerful state aparatus. I thought “conservatives” considered individual freedom and liberty from a government to be paramount. What happened to you that you side with an all powerful government?

]]> By: Justice Alito http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-298956 Justice Alito Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:30:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-298956 #40 - If you use ideology as grounds to filibuster, you will be nuked. The GOP seated Ginsburg with respect knowing that she was on the radical, far-left fringe of this country. Alito is a mainstream conservative. I see no issue except those who are anti-democratic and refuse to accept legitimate elections in America. #40 – If you use ideology as grounds to filibuster, you will be nuked. The GOP seated Ginsburg with respect knowing that she was on the radical, far-left fringe of this country. Alito is a mainstream conservative. I see no issue except those who are anti-democratic and refuse to accept legitimate elections in America.

]]> By: erik weinberger http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-298933 erik weinberger Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:24:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-298933 Can we fillibuster republicans? Can we fillibuster republicans?

]]> By: kindness http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-298747 kindness Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:36:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-298747 If you post anything tangible, I'd talk to you. You are only posting bullshit and baiting folks. Blow me loser. Alioto will be borked. If you post anything tangible, I’d talk to you. You are only posting bullshit and baiting folks.

Blow me loser. Alioto will be borked.

]]> By: Justice Alito http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-298656 Justice Alito Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:20:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-298656 #38 - that's an argument you use when you LOSE. #38 – that’s an argument you use when you LOSE.

]]> By: kindness http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-298636 kindness Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:16:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-298636 37-Blow me troll. 37-Blow me troll.

]]> By: Justice Alito http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-298599 Justice Alito Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:09:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-298599 #35 - good one. Alito will not be Borked. Please cooperate or be nuked. The GOP majority will be in place for the remainder of Bush's term and there will likely be two more retirements - both from the liberal wing - before Bush leaves office. Understand this - it is not changing. Conservatives have the power - see Miers. Liberals have Hollywierd and Ralph Neas - great for a good laugh, but not likely to change the outcome of Alito's fate. #35 – good one. Alito will not be Borked. Please cooperate or be nuked. The GOP majority will be in place for the remainder of Bush’s term and there will likely be two more retirements – both from the liberal wing – before Bush leaves office. Understand this – it is not changing.

Conservatives have the power – see Miers. Liberals have Hollywierd and Ralph Neas – great for a good laugh, but not likely to change the outcome of Alito’s fate.

]]> By: Jennty http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-298429 Jennty Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:23:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-298429 Frist is an idiot. However, like most Republicans he can't see past the end of the quarter. Next year will be an interesting year for the minority party, especially so if it's the Repubes. Activating the Nuclear option could just be what the nation needs.... to get the progressive movement going. Frist is an idiot. However, like most Republicans he can’t see past the end of the quarter. Next year will be an interesting year for the minority party, especially so if it’s the Repubes. Activating the Nuclear option could just be what the nation needs…. to get the progressive movement going.

]]> By: kindness http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-298355 kindness Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:02:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-298355 I really think we'd win this one if & when it comes down to filibuster (it will). Not only win it in the Senate, but in the minds of the American people too. They are more conservative than we here at TP, but they are way more moderate than bushco or the reichtwingnuts that foam at the mouth here daily (too many to name, you all know 'em). No, this could be a win/win for progressives and the Democratic Party (not that they are my pride and joy, but if they help me defeat bushco, I'm with them). It'll be curious to see who bush will nominate after Alioto gets borked. I really think we’d win this one if & when it comes down to filibuster (it will). Not only win it in the Senate, but in the minds of the American people too. They are more conservative than we here at TP, but they are way more moderate than bushco or the reichtwingnuts that foam at the mouth here daily (too many to name, you all know ‘em). No, this could be a win/win for progressives and the Democratic Party (not that they are my pride and joy, but if they help me defeat bushco, I’m with them).

It’ll be curious to see who bush will nominate after Alioto gets borked.

]]> By: Pablo in Mexico http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-298214 Pablo in Mexico Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:17:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-298214 BTW - I read in SLATE this morning that the WH Staff thought that the prez might be down a bit, so they all started a campaign to cheer him up, but it was not needed. The propaganda is that the prez is right on top of everything and is doing well. He is reading military history about other commanders in chief who were un-popular. Can anyone imagine Bush reading something as dry as military history? I cant. Number 1, he could not comprehend what he was reading. Number 2, it must have been the bible they saw him reading. Right on top of everything eh? What about NOLA, oh, I see, that involves a lot of poor black folks. Nothing for him to do there, his budget is all torn to hell so how could he possibly help a large portion of the population that was not rich and white? BTW – I read in SLATE this morning that the WH Staff thought that the prez might be down a bit, so they all started a campaign to cheer him up, but it was not needed.

The propaganda is that the prez is right on top of everything and is doing well. He is reading military history about other commanders in chief who were un-popular.

Can anyone imagine Bush reading something as dry as military history? I cant. Number 1, he could not comprehend what he was reading. Number 2, it must have been the bible they saw him reading.

Right on top of everything eh? What about NOLA, oh, I see, that involves a lot of poor black folks. Nothing for him to do there, his budget is all torn to hell so how could he possibly help a large portion of the population that was not rich and white?

]]> By: Pablo in Mexico http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-298159 Pablo in Mexico Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:57:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-298159 Back when the pukes were using the filibuster they demanded that the vote not be three fifths, or 60 votes, they wanted the non-sensical number of 67 votes before the filibuster could be broken. They are really fair minded arent they? Back when the pukes were using the filibuster they demanded that the vote not be three fifths, or 60 votes, they wanted the non-sensical number of 67 votes before the filibuster could be broken.

They are really fair minded arent they?

]]> By: iguanamon http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-298094 iguanamon Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:40:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-298094 Let's go! Bring it on! They seem to be in a race to the bottom, anyway, so maybe this is the push that send them there. At least they aren't calling it the (sic) "Nook-yoo-lar" option. Let’s go! Bring it on! They seem to be in a race to the bottom, anyway, so maybe this is the push that send them there.

At least they aren’t calling it the (sic) “Nook-yoo-lar” option.

]]> By: Justice Alito http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-297936 Justice Alito Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:43:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-297936 Sorry guys. Maybe after Justice Stevens steps down next June will their be any groundswell against conservative judges. Liberals are only scared because they are about to have their favorite toy taken away - the Federal Courts. Had they played by the rules the past forty years and this might not be so scary for them. Hopefully, the right wing on the Court is not as activist as the left. However, just to teach liberals a lesson, I hope it is. Liberalism is slowly being dismantled and as Justice of the Supreme Court, I will continue that. Sorry guys. Maybe after Justice Stevens steps down next June will their be any groundswell against conservative judges.

Liberals are only scared because they are about to have their favorite toy taken away – the Federal Courts. Had they played by the rules the past forty years and this might not be so scary for them. Hopefully, the right wing on the Court is not as activist as the left. However, just to teach liberals a lesson, I hope it is. Liberalism is slowly being dismantled and as Justice of the Supreme Court, I will continue that.

]]> By: Susan http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-296586 Susan Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:49:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-296586 I wonder if anyone has told Frist that he is a loser and has lost his power... Could someone please tell Frist that he's on his last leg and his only concern should be the purchase of soap on a rope. I wonder if anyone has told Frist that he is a loser and has lost his power…

Could someone please tell Frist that he’s on his last leg and his only concern should be the purchase of soap on a rope.

]]> By: burro http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-295888 burro Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:47:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-295888 sorry about the double comment, it seemed like it hadn't gone through. sorry about the double comment, it seemed like it hadn’t gone through.

]]> By: burro http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-295876 burro Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:43:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-295876 Alito needs to be filibustered just to drag this nuclear option shit out for a spin and see how it goes. RepubCo is going to threaten to nuke the filibuster every time it might be trotted out. It's like we have to save the filibuster for one last critical symbolic hurrah before it gets torpedoed and sinks out of sight. The Group of 14 has no cohesion. They'll all skitter back to their corners if the shit hits the fan. Alito's no good. It's time for Dem's to show some backbone whatever the outcome. Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead. Alito needs to be filibustered just to drag this nuclear option shit out for a spin and see how it goes. RepubCo is going to threaten to nuke the filibuster every time it might be trotted out. It’s like we have to save the filibuster for one last critical symbolic hurrah before it gets torpedoed and sinks out of sight.

The Group of 14 has no cohesion. They’ll all skitter back to their corners if the shit hits the fan. Alito’s no good. It’s time for Dem’s to show some backbone whatever the outcome. Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead.

]]> By: burro http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-295862 burro Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:39:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-295862 Alito needs to be filibustered just to drag this nuclear option shit out for a spin and see how it goes. RepubCo is going to threaten to nuke the filibuster every time it might be trotted out. It's like we have to save the filibuster for one last critical symbolic hurrah before it gets torpedoed and sinks out of sight. The Group of 14 has no cohesion. They'll all skitter back to their corners if the shit hits the fan. Alito's no good. It's time for Dem's to show some backbone whatever the outcome. Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead. Alito needs to be filibustered just to drag this nuclear option shit out for a spin and see how it goes. RepubCo is going to threaten to nuke the filibuster every time it might be trotted out. It’s like we have to save the filibuster for one last critical symbolic hurrah before it gets torpedoed and sinks out of sight. The Group of 14 has no cohesion. They’ll all skitter back to their corners if the shit hits the fan. Alito’s no good. It’s time for Dem’s to show some backbone whatever the outcome. Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead.

]]> By: Average TV Viewer http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-295715 Average TV Viewer Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:41:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-295715 I don't know if it's a threat. Nowadays, the only way you can show support for the GOP is to threaten nuclear. It's a corner they've painted themselves into. I don’t know if it’s a threat. Nowadays, the only way you can show support for the GOP is to threaten nuclear. It’s a corner they’ve painted themselves into.

]]> By: beep52 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/comment-page-1/#comment-295703 beep52 Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:34:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/11/first-promises-to-trigger-%e2%80%9cnuclear-option%e2%80%9d/#comment-295703 So now that the opponents have been threatened, what are they going to do? They ought to put out an organized, coherent, comprehensive, whithering and irrefutable set of reasons why they oppose -- and few should appear on every news program to make known why this guy isn't suitable. Show the American people what a low-life Frist is for his beliefs and for threatening people who disagree. So now that the opponents have been threatened, what are they going to do? They ought to put out an organized, coherent, comprehensive, whithering and irrefutable set of reasons why they oppose — and few should appear on every news program to make known why this guy isn’t suitable. Show the American people what a low-life Frist is for his beliefs and for threatening people who disagree.

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