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New Gallup poll:

By Nico Pitney on Dec 12th, 2005 at 10:14 pm

New Gallup poll:

“The president’s series of speeches on Iraq over the past two weeks hasn’t convinced Americans that he has a plan for victory: 38% say he has one, 58% say he doesn’t.”



30 Responses to “New Gallup poll:”

  1. Colorado Jyms says:

    That is a poll of the people who actually listened to his speeches. The real question is how many people have tuned him completely out because they believe he is a lying dirtbag.


  2. wwallace says:

    But it is an objective fact that he has one. They released it in print, 35 pages. Polls do not change facts. But liberals don’t care about facts, they care about fomenting defeatism, at the expense of their own country.


  3. Boil The easter bunny! 2006! says:

    But it is an objective fact that he has one. They released it in print, 35 pages. Polls do not change facts. But liberals don’t care about facts, they care about fomenting defeatism, at the expense of their own country.

    Comment by wwallace

    I guess they just think his plans for anything other than an early retirement suck. Why don’t you take a vacation? Better yet, an early retirement.


  4. Boil The Easter Bunny! 2006! says:

    Become a missionary! I think there are still places where they boil your kind!


  5. pigboy says:

    How can anyone listen to his speech? He always gives them on an odd day in the middle of the day usally in front of some sort of military.

    What we get is the right wing commentary of what he said means.

    IF that fool was stupid enough to make his stupid speeches prime time his poll numbers would be even lower.

    BTW did you all notice how the press has dropped coverage of anything of importance to cover shrubs poll numbers?


  6. Marie says:

    It’s going to take more than a few speeches to substantively change things. He has lost the trust of most Americans, and repeating a few more slogans and trite phrases will not have a lasting effect.
    Bush even accepted questions today after a speech, but most people have already tuned him out.
    He is the lamest of lame duck presidents. His survival over the next three years will be a well-deserved,long and trying time for him — and for us.
    Knight-Ridder has a report today that the Iranians have infiltrated the Iraqi militia and are conducting violent attacks on Sunnis.
    There are also reports of attacks on Arabs in Australia.
    The level of unrest in the world is frightening for what it may mean in the future.
    I can’t believe that all of this would exist to this extent without the Iraq war — Bush’s legacy to the world. Americans are awakening to this realization.


  7. wwallace says:

    Watch Ryan fail again to back up his claim. :()


  8. hardass says:

    No surprise . He mirrors the intelligence of the amrican people as his own ,juvenile , ignorant , arrogant .comtemptuous , so he repeats himself , he has nothing else to offer , no admitance of failure , no bright idea . He has ignited a world war …. If there is a need for rapture it is NOW . his rapture that is .There is still a window of window of opportunity to bring some control and save face . IMPEACHEMENT is the solution.


  9. RemoveBush says:

    #2, you call that a plan? wwallace, you really need help.

    I have a plan to be rich, so does that mean that I will be? NO! I have to have a plan of how I will be rich. I will first do item a, then item b, then item c, etc.

    This is a plan. Getting up for the day is not a plan, it is something that is done normally.

    Besides, your eslustrious leader has already stated “we cannot win the war on terror.”

    So why are we there then? We are only there for OIL, and no matter how you spin it this is the bottom line. We have plenty of oil in America and we do not need to be bothering other countries when we can’t even take care of our country.

    We have rigs that drill and cap in the ocean, and have been doing this since I was a young kid more than 20 years. So no one can tell me that we don’t have the oil because I know better since my step father used to work for one and did this for many years.


  10. JIMBO says:

    I don’t pay attention to polls. Just as long as independent polls show Dubya at the 30’s and below, that’s good enough for me.

    Ryan- You might have to check out the Chris Wallace article
    discussion. Some idiot troll is going by the name of Ryan Neato. I posted for him to stop. The troll probably won’t listen. I just wanted you to know before something crazy happens.


  11. --Aj says:

    #But it is an objective fact that he has one. They released it in print, 35 pages. Polls do not change facts. But liberals don’t care about facts, they care about fomenting defeatism, at the expense of their own country.

    Comment by wwallace — December 12, 2005 @ 10:22 pm

    Your a Nationale Wwallace, you dont CARE about America, you are interested in Assisting the Global Eltists in putting the OLD WORLD order back in Place. Tyranny.
    Its People like you Wwallace that Are helping to put our Soverignity into the hands of the UN.
    I guess Pledging allegiance to Koffee Anna appeals to you?

    The LIBERAL ELITES, BOUGHT the corrupt DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS, and have financed BOTH parties. When are you gonna Wake up and see this?
    ~~~
    “To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism, and religious dogmas.” – Brock Adams, Director UN Health Organization
    ~~
    “A world government can intervene militarily in the internal affairs of any nation when it disapproves of their activities.” – Kofi Annan, U.N. Secretary General
    ~~
    “Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order [referring to the 1991 LA Riot]. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond [i.e., an "extraterrestrial" invasion], whether real or *promulgated* [emphasis mine], that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this *scenario*, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.”
    Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991
    ~~~
    “The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control…. Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent.”
    Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets
    ~~
    “We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries.”
    David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.
    ~~
    These are Actual Quotes -Aj


  12. --Aj says:

    “We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years.
    ~~~
    Forty YEARS of MSM not reporting what these people have planned for America and its Citizens. -Aj


  13. Kenny H. says:

    A 35 page document constitutes a plan for a war that’s already been underway for 30 months?! That’s laughable. The Girl Scouts probably have more of a plan for selling Girl Scout Cookies door-to-door. There are a couple important things missing from this plan: a timeline and measurable goals. Without that, it’s just an idea. Shouldn’t Bush have come up with the real plan before invading? Or, maybe a plan that somehow addresses Al Qaeda, the group that actually committed a terrorist act against the U.S.? wwallace: you are living in a sad state of mythology if you think Bush has any sort of a plan other than more tax cuts for his rich friends. When first running for President, he said government should be run like a business and he’d be the CEO. Well, I guess we can see why the two businesses he started with his father’s friends’ money both went bankrupt.


  14. wwallace says:

    You fail to understand the distinction between “no plan” and “a plan you don’t like”. The first is a lie, the second is an opinion.


  15. tomz says:

    Bush is a ZERO. The man is a professional liar. The public is seeing through the cloth-less emperor. He’s a waste of time and a waste of skin. He’s responsible for untold needless deaths. He should be hung.

    I won’t even allow him on my radio, let alone the TV (which I stopped watching 10 years ago)


  16. WORFEUS says:

    Polls do not change facts. But liberals don’t care about facts, they care about fomenting defeatism, at the expense of their own country.

    Comment by wwallace

    Actually wwallace, polls are facts. Polls deal with things like numbers, statistics, percentages.

    You know, all that silly liberal stuff you slept through in high school?


  17. WaltTheMan says:

    Jeez,
    When I was in high school, they taught how vacuum tubes and semiconductors worked as well as the progress of knowledge from Persian times to the enlightenment of modern physics. Now the baton is being passed to China as our president presses his assault on education. I only hope for the sake of our nation that he is deterred. He is one ignorant son of a Barbara.


  18. Armando Gomez says:

    Will’s Blood Money

    December 13, 2005

    “The entitlement mentality produces petulant insistence on an ever-higher ratio of rights to responsibilities” so saith George F. Will. In his article “Entitlement mentality flourishes on campuses” Will ponderously, as always, takes the long road to insure clarity in the public forum. To the introductory paragraph what he’s trying to come across is that hand-outs breed contempt to obligation and duty. But in truth it’s quite the opposite. Will accused the universities of travesty for refusing military recruitment in their campuses. His reasoning is that since universities receives tens of billion of federal dollars then military recruitment has the right to put up their booth. Will’s further position is that Justice Antonin Scalia, questioning whether the universities supporting recruitment meant endorsing the war, which they aren’t. Then Will toss in the First Amendment protection, muddling its intent by comparing the university’s right to object to that of its past support for racial segregation. Finally, the political marginalization of higher education since 1960: Contrary to Will’s flight of fantasy, that’s when the universities first broke away from the control of the government—and marginalization. They were against an immoral war back then and they are today. And no amount of blood money will coax the universities to look the other way when our troops are dying for nothing in that Big Fat Lie known as the Iraq war.


  19. KillCon 2006 says:

    The Iraq War

    By the numbers

    It doesn’t list the salary of the “private contractor” security details but that’s upwards of 200K a year, probably coming out of you pocket some way or another.

    The war in numbers: From WMD to the victims

    $204.4billion The cost to the US of the war so far. The UK’s bill up until March 2005 was £3.1 billion

    2,339 Allied troops killed

    98 UK troops killed

    30,000 Estimated Iraqi civilian deaths

    0 Number of WMDs found

    8 per cent of Iraqi children suffering acute malnutrition

    $35,819m World Bank estimated cost of reconstruction

    53,470 Iraqi insurgents killed

    67 per cent Iraqis who feel less secure because of occupation

    $343 Average monthly salary for an Iraqi soldier. Average monthly salary for an American soldier in Iraq: $4,160.75

    66 journalists killed in Iraq. Journalists killed during Vietnam war: 63

    5 foreign civilians kidnapped per month

    47 per cent Iraqis who never have enough electricity

    20 casualties per month from unexploded mines

    20 per cent Inflation rate 2005

    25-40 per cent Estimated unemployment rate, Nov 2005

    251 Foreigners kidnapped

    70 per cent of Iraqi’s whose sewage system rarely works

    183,000 British and American troops are still in action in Iraq. There are 162,000 US troops and 8,000 British with 13,000 from other nations

    90 Daily attacks by insurgents in Nov ‘05. In Jun ‘03: 8

    82 per cent Iraqis who are “strongly opposed” to presence of coalition troops

    15,955 US troops wounded in action


  20. unbelievable says:

    Because he doesn’t have one!


  21. thot's says:

    Did anyone catch the giggle and smirk when he was talking about Syria? bushco has a plan alright its take over the Middle East and divide it up for profit.

    Israel gets Lebanon and Syria .Us/England/Aus gets control of teh Oil Rich /Gas rich countries ….

    Who pays for all this the back of the middle class and poor people in all these countries…….

    Who reaps the profits the big oil co’s …..

    The biggest heist in the history of the world has taken place and the has been the enabler to do this with gwbushco.

    Say hello Masters……….


  22. Keith H. says:

    The production of junior with Brian Williams last nite was pretty funny. As if plenty of favorable lighting and complimentary camera angles are going to change public opinion.
    Here’s a memorable quote:
    I feel very comfortable that . . . .(eyes darting around the room, searching for a way to complete the sentence) . . . I’m very aware of what’s going on“.
    (Followed by a triumphant smile upon completing sentence).

    Quite a leader, I still don’t believe anyone voted for this idiot.


  23. Pablo in Mexico says:

    I love the sneer on his face when he gets applause while making a speech. Know what the sneer says?

    I got you people fooled, dont I?


  24. Darth Filibustrous says:

    Awesome, wwallace admits that 58% of the country are “liberals”!

    I agree with Pablo: Bush’s applause snicker is pretty disgusting. But even MORE disgusting was the intonation in his voice when he estimated the Iraqi dead, “about 30,000″ … He uttered the figure in that matter-of-fact way, as if he was answering a question about the square footage of his ranch … human waste, this man is …

    Also, if he is absolutely sure he would have invaded Iraq anyway knowing what we know now, how does that make his decision “TOUGH” ?


  25. progressive and proud says:

    Trolls – redundant.


  26. progressive and proud says:

    I thought you trolls didn’t believe in polls? I remembering all of you parroting that slogan for a while.


  27. progressive and proud says:

    I suppose, then, they have a lot of disagreements lately.


  28. Susan says:

    I wish the 38% who know of the plan for victory in Iraq would please share it with the rest of us.

    Staying the course is not a plan, its insanity. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.


  29. Evil Spaniard says:

    There is a dirty saying in may country about polls: if a hundred bilions fleas decide, what would we eat?


  30. MichDem says:

    Again with the 38% . That’s alot of people . We should’nt have to send 43 year old mothers to Iraq . Thye should be lined up at the army recruiters office . Tell them thrie going to bomb an arbortion clinic , thta should motivate them >



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