Washington Post Reporters Upset About Links To Blogs
Washington Post Reporters Upset About Links To Blogs
A little while ago, Washingtonpost.com started linking to blogs. The modest effort alerts readers to blogs that have commented on a specific article, and appear on the same page as the article. They look like this:
According to the Post’s ombudsman, Deborah Howell, some reporters aren’t happy:
Some Post reporters don’t appreciate that links are put on the Web site to what bloggers are saying about this or that story — especially when the bloggers are highly negative.
This underscores a fundamental tension about blogs in the mainstream media. Many of those involved in traditional outlets view blogs as a way to expand their audience and deepen the discourse about their content. The L.A. Times, CNN and other mainstream players actively push their content to ThinkProgress and other blogs via email.
But others, including some reporters at the Post, view blogs as a threat. Ms. Howell indicates they are motivated, at least in part, by a desire to insulate their work for criticism.
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Well, I can see why the press writer’s could get upset……#1…they must more thoroughly vett their articles for truth and lies, like having many editors looking over their shoulders,…..and, #2. they see the interactiveness of blogging and remember how they seldom answer to anyone….if they get a response to their writings….they used to just send out a form letter in response that says they get too many to respond….and #3. they can see blogging as the beginning of the end for their profession….
hey, this writing about current events isn’t that hard, eh?
heh,heh,heh
December 12th, 2005 at 8:33 amAn excellent post, Judd. I have to commend blogs such as this one as well as Michael Moore for doing their research. Research that is as good, if not better than mainstream media. I can see why journalists and reporters would be pissed because they’re getting critiqued almost immediately after publication, as opposed to “letters to the editor” which take a few days. Good on ya, and keep up the snoopin’!
December 12th, 2005 at 8:39 amNewsweek Online has linked its articles to blogs commenting on these same articles for quite some time. Newsweek & WaPo have the same owners…I’m surprised this didn’t happen sooner.
December 12th, 2005 at 8:51 amBoo hoo – these poor reporters that face such scrutiny by the reading (and in many cases, thinking) public… thank god for blogs and giving the people more access to information and ideas that the print media seem to have tried to sidestep! The heat is on – as it should be…
December 12th, 2005 at 9:23 amReminds me of when Hollywood actors were upset about reality television because it took jobs away from them…
Well, then perhaps the media should do a better job of doing their jobs…
December 12th, 2005 at 9:39 amAngry reporters is one of the next logical progressions in the diminishing value of print media. Even now, if you open up a Dallas Morning News all you get are AP stories and the like. And the Op eds can’t keep up with anything more than local stories.
December 12th, 2005 at 9:41 amHOW DARE THEY! THOSE BASTARDS! ..just kidding. It is now the time of unintended consequences. Rules, who needs rules in a free for all. I still think with good manners all can be said if you have a point to make so go home and sharpen your points please. What a unraveling golf ball this has become. So many opinions so little time to read them.Armchair journalists unite!
December 12th, 2005 at 9:43 amI have written to many reporters. Usually I get the “form letter” in reply but, on rare occasion, I do get a personal response. To the point here — bloggers are taking up where MSM journalism has fallen down. If reporters feel threatened by bloggers, then perhaps they had better review the quality and depth of their own work. They have had little competition, and to a certain extent, have been cowed by their owners and editors; so if bloggers can inform their readers and poke the MSM into remembering their reason for existence, then it’s a win-win for us.
December 12th, 2005 at 9:49 amI would view this as an opportunity for print reporters. If I were one of these poor reporters I would be starting my own blog-like yesterday.
I imagine the veteran reporters aren’t intimitated by blogs.
December 12th, 2005 at 9:51 amNo wonder they don’t care for the blogs. Blogs like ThinkProgress actually know how to fact check, unlike many of the highly paid stenographers who apparently don’t even know how to use google.
December 12th, 2005 at 10:06 amSounds like a case of Thin Skin.
Look, if the NY Times had linked to all of us while they (and Judy Miller) were beating the war drums to invade Iraq, maybe we could have gotten some REAL debate over the issue. I mean, it seemed at the time that NOBODY was listening to those of us who said the reasons were all bullshit and those putting the reasons forth were lying.
December 12th, 2005 at 10:22 ami can understand professional concerns. as pointed to here, it really depends on which blogs are being linked to. TP is of good quality and the posts have an excellent tone, but there are other blogs working the political sphere that i wouldn’t want to be linked with.
i know that naming names will probably get me flamed here by the TP comment rabble, but as a long-time user of DailyKos, there’s no way I’d want to associate professional journalism with some of their operatives who are high on emotion and low on research.
at the moment, there is scope for a moralizing tone on such blogs, as they are not subject to same market forces, but as these blogs become more entrenched, they themselves will start to become more like established media and perhaps the professionalism and particularly the emotive tone and the fact-checking will begin to improve.
December 12th, 2005 at 10:27 amThis is good news and reflective of all the good work that so many groups are doing including the AFL-CIO, Jobs with Justice, Wake Up Wal-Mart and Wal-Mart Watch. It’s no doubt this is why Wal-Mart is advertising about how their employees (ooops, associates) love their jobs and benefits.
December 12th, 2005 at 10:39 amThe more freedom given to Iraqis, the more chance for further progress there would be, particularly in fighting terror,†said Abdul Aziz Hakim, head of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, the Shiite Muslim religious party that leads the transitional government and whose armed wing is the most feared of Iraq’s many factional forces.
December 12th, 2005 at 10:40 amSoon… Blogs will be the mainstream media! Blogs are showing mainstream media that transparent, forthright coverage is the only way to go. MSM better get with the program because they are increasingly falling way behind the competition. BLOGS!!!
December 12th, 2005 at 10:47 amHeven forbid that the MSM be shown to be the stooges they are, and what’s worse by a “blog”… oh the shock, oh the agony, oh the awe…
Poor babies, get over it. Welcome to the 21st century. The Blogs are the new pamphlets. Just like durring the Revolution. Vox populii.
December 12th, 2005 at 10:58 amIn the past, reporters only had to worry if their story was one of the more controversial in an issue, due to the limitations of the Letters pages. Now, they can’t hide behind the “discretion” of the editors. I don’t understand why online papers don’t just publish their papers like blogs, and offer blog-like commenting beneath every article or editorial. Why direct traffic off-site?
Blogs seem to have proven to me that censorship of comments is totally unnecessary. Market-like forces apply there, where consensus quickly dispatches the original or extreme comment to the trash bin. When an original idea benefits from credible sourcing, that powerful url mechanism gives it the voice necessary to intrude.
December 12th, 2005 at 10:58 amHere is a great site for debate on most current legislation concerning the I-net. She is a real sweetie wonk. http://www.skepticseye.com/
December 12th, 2005 at 11:03 amThe beauty of the internet and blogs is that the average Joe can by himself “fact check your ass” and the MSM is worried about it. The same electronic medium that is fast making life better for greenies and furry woodland creatures who think trees should be seen and not black and white and read all over is quickly becoming a touchstone for those seeking truth.
LGF the far right Zionist blog helped catch Dan Rather and CBS in a bald faced lie manufactured by sinister Progressive agents and peddled to anyone crass enough to print it or report it without question. Those days of monopoly on the “facts” are almost over at CBS,NBC,ABC,CBC,BBC,CNN and the host of lesser alphabet liars and Left Wing rags masquerading as unbiased news sources.
Here is another case in point. The facts have been in and reported on the internet by scores of our people on the ground since the fall of Baghdad about how the average Iraqi feels about the US involvement in their countries democratic resurrection but now even ABC must tell the truth. Faced with falling confidence and trust in their admittedly biased news rooms thanks in no small part to conservative websites they are feeling the crunch. Get with the program and tell the truth or close up shop.
“Dec. 12, 2005 — Surprising levels of optimism prevail in Iraq with living conditions improved, security more a national worry than a local one, and expectations for the future high. But views of the country’s situation overall are far less positive, and there are vast differences in views among Iraqi groups — a study in contrasts between increasingly disaffected Sunni areas and vastly more positive Shiite and Kurdish provinces.
An ABC News poll in Iraq, conducted with Time magazine and other media partners, includes some remarkable results: Despite the daily violence there, most living conditions are rated positively, seven in 10 Iraqis say their own lives are going well, and nearly two-thirds expect things to improve in the year ahead.”
http://abcnews.go.com/International/PollVault/story?id=1389228
Surprising???? Only to the idiots and ABC News who read and believe their own reports. HA!
December 12th, 2005 at 11:13 amI think you need to read your own link, IRI.
December 12th, 2005 at 11:25 amIt’s Bush’s fault that people aren’t into this war. They don’t believe his jingoism and he doesn’t go to Iraq and eat Big Macs.
Don’t you understand? Noone believes him anymore. It’s over.
IRI, Your putting in larger bolder type the, facts you used to justify your commentary
December 12th, 2005 at 11:32 amare quite telling. Isn’t the point about people who read? What percentage of the voting public is illiterate? It is about elevating the common denominator, the people who watch the news have to be reading it now too. You make referrences to all the big TV MSM. I think we can only become more focused not less. When crystal clear images, unfiltered, are made available to us by the media we move on, but when the attempts to blur what we think we are actually seeing,comes in a persuasive fashion then combine that with a lack of real transparency in the delivery of facts regarding a list of specific questions regarding the execution of this War and we just get more indignant , suppressed and look for alternative sources. I think the Administration is beyond culpable for it has set the tone for everything the attempt. Why does the White House scrub their own press meetings? Thanks for your time.
WA Post reporters: Waaah! Blogs are doing my job better than I am, and people are finding out!
December 12th, 2005 at 11:45 amBush – Constitution
‘Just A Goddamned
Piece Of Paper’
By Doug Thompson
Capitol Hill Blue
12-9-5
Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA Patriot Act.
Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose renewal.
GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.
“I don’t give a goddamn,” Bush retorted. “I’m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.”
“Mr. President,” one aide in the meeting said. “There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.”
“Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,” Bush screamed back. “It’s just a goddamned piece of paper!”
I’ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution “a goddamned piece of paper.”
And, to the Bush Administration, the Constitution of the United States is little more than toilet paper stained from all the shit that this group of power-mad despots have dumped on the freedoms that “goddamned piece of paper” used to guarantee.
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, while still White House counsel, wrote that the “Constitution is an outdated document.”
Put aside, for a moment, political affiliation or personal beliefs. It doesn’t matter if you are a Democrat, Republican or Independent. It doesn’t matter if you support the invasion or Iraq or not. Despite our differences, the Constitution has stood for two centuries as the defining document of our government, the final source to determine  in the end  if something is legal or right.
Every federal official  including the President  who takes an oath of office swears to “uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says he cringes when someone calls the Constitution a “living document.”
“”Oh, how I hate the phrase we have-a ‘living document,’” Scalia says. “We now have a Constitution that means whatever we want it to mean. The Constitution is not a living organism, for Pete’s sake.”
As a judge, Scalia says, “I don’t have to prove that the Constitution is perfect; I just have to prove that it’s better than anything else.”
President Bush has proposed seven amendments to the Constitution over the last five years, including a controversial amendment to define marriage as a “union between a man and woman.” Members of Congress have proposed some 11,000 amendments over the last decade, ranging from repeal of the right to bear arms to a Constitutional ban on abortion.
Scalia says the danger of tinkering with the Constitution comes from a loss of rights.
“We can take away rights just as we can grant new ones,” Scalia warns. “Don’t think that it’s a one-way street.”
And don’t buy the White House hype that the USA Patriot Act is a necessary tool to fight terrorism. It is a dangerous law that infringes on the rights of every American citizen and, as one brave aide told President Bush, something that undermines the Constitution of the United States.
But why should Bush care? After all, the Constitution is just “a goddamned piece of paper.”
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December 12th, 2005 at 11:49 amDamn these bloggers!!!!!!! Damn the INTERNETS!!!!!! How is a good “journalist” supposed to push perfectly Bush Cabal highly paid-for propaganda if these goddamn bloggers keep getting a say and pointing out actual facts????? I swear, what is this world coming to when you can’t even run a freakin’ dictatorship without “the people” always wanting a say. ON WITH INTERNET 2!!!!!!
December 12th, 2005 at 12:02 pmDamn these bloggers!!!!!!! Damn the INTERNETS!!!!!! How is a good “journalist†supposed to push perfectly good Bush Cabal highly paid-for propaganda if these goddamn bloggers keep getting a say and pointing out actual facts????? I swear, what is this world coming to when you can’t even run a freakin’ dictatorship without “the people†always wanting a say. ON WITH INTERNET 2!!!!!!
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December 12th, 2005 at 12:09 pmThe Progress Report Team
I think it’s great.
Blogs are where the pro’s meet the public. It’s like a town hall meeting, where everyone gets a turn to say their peice.
All voices are heard, the ones we agree with, and the ones that make our blood curdle.
What they are afraid of is one of us Joe Shmoe’s will clean their clocks on an issue.
God I would like to debate some of these guys in here, like Andrew Sullivan, or Tucker Carlson,(yea I know they don’t work for the Post), or wait, hold me, I’m getting goosepimply, Ann Coulter and Bill O’rielly. That would be a good one.
It would be my pleasure to mop the floor with these professionals.
In fact, it’s an open challenge.
Any of the right wing journalists, reporters, pundits or showhosts, who want to debate WORFEUS, here in ThinkProgress, in real time, for all to see, WORFEUS is at your service. :|
Bring it on.
December 12th, 2005 at 12:10 pmOops, That Slipped. Merry Christmas Everybody, Merry Christmas, HO HO HO.(U 2 wwallace,iri,dannyk,MA, etc…)
December 12th, 2005 at 12:11 pm#8 Hey Marie,
I get form letters from the White House too! Do your response letters from journalists have nothing to do with what you’d written about in the first place, were sent by no one you had addressed in your inquiry, and talk in a condescending tone???
December 12th, 2005 at 12:14 pmI think you need to read your own link, IRI.
Lots of wingers can read. They can mouth the words. It’s the comprehension part that hangs them up. “Rah! Rah! Bush! Liberals bad!” That’s about the depth of their comprehension.
December 12th, 2005 at 12:15 pmWORFEUS, They won,t. You know why?
They live by this Creed.
Bring It On, but, pay me first.
December 12th, 2005 at 12:20 pmMuhahahaa -Aj
IRI I love YOU!
Yew Two Wwallace
My Husbandmen,
Guess what?
YOUR FIRED!!
December 12th, 2005 at 12:20 pmlol
I think you need to read your own link, IRI.
It’s Bush’s fault that people aren’t into this war. They don’t believe his jingoism and he doesn’t go to Iraq and eat Big Macs.
Don’t you understand? Noone believes him anymore. It’s over.
Comment by Average TV Viewer
Nobody is “into” war. I’m not and neither are the Iraqis but that is not what this little article is about is it? It’s about how the Iraqis feel about the situation they find themselves in. The point I TRIED to make and you ignore is the left of center MSM that includes all the alphabet companies have been telling us how miserable the Iraqis are and how much they hate the USA and that it’s a quagmire. Well. That. Is. Wrong. Isn’t it? Isn’t it? Isn’t it? Yes.
The same can be said for the American people too. We are not ready to pull out. We are not begging to surrender like Murtha, Kennedy, Pelosi and Dean. The MSM is lying about that. Think Communist is lying about that. How do I know? I have the internet and can “fact check” their ass, that’s how. Besides, you had your chance to pull out and your elected Donk representatives decided they didn’t want to.
The only ones that want us out of Iraq are the terrorists and the fringe left wing loons like you and that is the way it has been from the start. On one side are the Iraqi and American people and on the other are the terrorists and their boon companions and allies the Progressively Evil.
December 12th, 2005 at 12:24 pmIts all about Money to News Reporters. Thats how they make a living.(I,ll give you News, But, Pay Me first).
December 12th, 2005 at 12:24 pmNothing is free,er,(Except this Blog of Info).
Knowledge is Indeed Free. Information is Not.
What percentage of the voting public is illiterate?
Unfortunately, far too many Americans are illiterate, as opposed to Cuba which has the lowest illiteracy rate in Latin America at about .2%. They want you fat and stupid here. Democracy is messy and doesn’t give your corporate masters what they really want, a docile and low paid labor force. That’s why they are closing libraries here and the FBI is whining about “radical militant librarians“. Your once great country is turning into a third rate banana republican shithole.
December 12th, 2005 at 12:26 pm
The only ones that want us out of Iraq are the terrorists and the fringe left wing loons like you and that is the way it has been from the start. On one side are the Iraqi and American people and on the other are the terrorists and their boon companions and allies the Progressively Evil.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I
Shut up.
December 12th, 2005 at 12:27 pmAnd No, Things are NOT Going well in Afganistan or Iraq, Dummies.
December 12th, 2005 at 12:29 pmThats why Security is Getting HIGHER JUST Before Elections Dec 16.
By the way, I thought they had Elections Last Year around this time. What happened?
Didnt get who you want, Resident Bush? or Vise Resident to the Mofia Dickh***Cheney???
G*DD*MM PIECE OF WHAT?
Thou Shalt NEVER USE THE LORD YOUR GODS NAME IN VAIN!
1st commandment
So they have elections. BIG DEAL!
December 12th, 2005 at 12:31 pmAMERICA GOT THE OIL! GREEDY SELF RIGHTEOUS STIFFNECKS!
we designed this feature for the media matters redesign, but it has yet to come to fruition.
it’s important that the mainstream media is kept in check with the opinion and perspective of the common man. journalists just need to grow thicker skin or stop looking at the blog module. i mean, that’s how atheletes continue to perform; they don’t read the articles about them.
December 12th, 2005 at 12:41 pmHere you go, IRI.
http://www.stevequayle.com/index1.html
Don’t let it be said I wasn’t fair and balanced. Now take this and get back into your hole.
December 12th, 2005 at 12:41 pmYou reflect about 20% of the population IRrItable bowel syndrome. Five times as many people watch the more moderately conservative “Alphabets” than watch the cartoons on Faux News. No one in their right mind thinks there is much of a “left wing” in this country, much less a left biased media anywhere. Now take the shiny object out of your mouth and run along and play.
December 12th, 2005 at 12:50 pmLGF the far right Zionist blog helped catch Dan Rather and CBS in a bald faced lie manufactured by sinister Progressive agents and peddled to anyone crass enough to print it or report it without question. Those days of monopoly on the “facts†are almost over at CBS,NBC,ABC,CBC,BBC,CNN and the host of lesser alphabet liars and Left Wing rags masquerading as unbiased news sources.
Again, you are just making shit up and engaging in deludusions of grandeur and fantasies. If you weren’t such a buffoon, the statistics above would tell you that you represent about 20% of the population right now.
The Killian documents
December 12th, 2005 at 12:59 pm#34
“I have the internet and can “fact check†their ass, that’s how.” I-RIGHT-I
Hey, now, quit stealing my lines… I just said that to you yesterday! (about you saying 99.9999% of the world believed in a god)
And to think, IRI, you stooped to use the words of a mere woman! Shame on you!
December 12th, 2005 at 1:51 pmAnd to think, IRI, you stooped to use the words of a mere woman! Shame on you!
Comment by unbelievable — December 12, 2005 @
No. Shame on you for even joking about such a thing.
December 12th, 2005 at 2:27 pm:)
go blogs go! where you can float your boat any which way you want!! news junkies want it now, not in 2 days! and murdock and friends can’t censor, suppress, re-write, etc.! thank god for blogs!
December 12th, 2005 at 2:29 pmThe only ones that want us out of Iraq are the terrorists and the fringe left wing loons
Comment by I-RIGHT-I
Actually, a new poll done this morning in Iraq, shows that 2 thirds of the Iraqi people want the US out!
Chris Matthews has been quoting it all morning.
So I guess they are all terrorists and fringe left wing loons.
December 12th, 2005 at 2:30 pmYou know, I also heard another quote this morning from Chris Matthews, that I have not heard in a while.
Referring to the war in Iraq;
Donald Rummy Rumsfeld
December 12th, 2005 at 2:43 pmLet that quote, serve as a reminder, that those who were soooooo wrong about everything going in, are not the ones this country should be turning to for answers on getting out.
WORFEUS
December 12th, 2005 at 2:46 pmIRI = Irate Redneck Indigent
December 12th, 2005 at 2:48 pm#46
Yeah, I forget that he takes everything literally. Thanks for reminding me :).
And thanks again for the links. Am going through it slowly. Definitely a lot to read. But good stuff. Thanks!
December 12th, 2005 at 2:54 pmAfter 9/11 our press gave this President a free pass to lie and not question or call him on the lies, we know now that some reporters helped fuel these lies with reports right out of this Administrations mouth. Just look at who Rove and Libby could go to just to put out a lie or destroy some one.
December 12th, 2005 at 3:23 pmIRI, Your putting in larger bolder type the, facts you used to justify your commentary
are quite telling.
For once I was sticking to the point of the thread about bloggers and the internet keepind MSM honest. It is true and it’s a wonderful thing for all Americans. (who can read and have an IQ above that of a squash.)
Isn’t the point about people who read? What percentage of the voting public is illiterate?
No, the point of the thread and my post has nothing to do with illiteracy.
It is about elevating the common denominator, the people who watch the news have to be reading it now too.
This country has a high literacy rate among its productive and eligible voters. I see no reason why those few illegal immigrants and incorrigible ignoramuses like those found in predominately black areas should make one bit of difference in the political landscape.
You make referrences to all the big TV MSM. I think we can only become more focused not less. When crystal clear images, unfiltered, are made available to us by the media we move on,
That isn’t happening now. We get the news through a political filter. Period. I can think of one somewhat conservative news group on the TV and about 10 unabashaedly liberal ones. If I’m counting correctly that’s 10:1 in the liberal’sfavore. There you will find no pictures of American men and women re-building the infrastructure, manning hospitals or killing bad guys. We get burning wrecks from roadside bombs and pictures from Abu Garab Prison. No touching photo journalism about real life heros on the American and Iraqi side. Instead we get dipshits from the news services ingratiating themselves to the terrorists so they can be first on the scene for the next grade school bombing. This isn’t media this is propaganda for the other side. Personally I think the US Marines have been shooting “journalists” and my only complaint is they didn’t shoot enough of them.
but when the attempts to blur what we think we are actually seeing,comes in a persuasive fashion then combine that with a lack of real transparency in the delivery of facts regarding a list of specific questions regarding the execution of this War and we just get more indignant , suppressed and look for alternative sources.
It’s amazing to me that you people can look every night at the negative press Bush and the war gets and complain with a straight face that information is suppressed and you need alternative sources.
I think the Administration is beyond culpable for it has set the tone for everything the attempt. Why does the White House scrub their own press meetings? Thanks for your time.
I don’t know what you mean by culpable but I’d bet Bush gives as many or more press meetings that the last four or five Presidents. If I was him I’d jerk half of the press passes from the Alphabet Group and give somebody else a shot at reporting the “who, what, when and where” without the Left Wing Slant.
Comment by the Fly-man
December 12th, 2005 at 3:28 pmWhat is left wing slant about : ITEM:Right after 911 Ari Fleischer said “People need to be careful what they say.” That direct quote is not part of the permanent record for the White House that day. Why? Where is it in the best interest for the govt. to have negative press. Why is it you as an independent blogger have more of a willingness to address me in an open forum than the leader of our nation. You seem to hold yourself accountable for his actions, why can’t he be the same. When pressured you come up with some reasonable responses to what i believe to be reasonable points. Why cant the leader of our country do the same? I’m sorry about the run on sentaence regarding be suppressed. The polluted answers suppress ME. Thanks
December 12th, 2005 at 4:31 pm“It may take six days, maybe 6 weeks, but I doubt it will take 6 monthsâ€
Donald Rummy Rumsfeld
December 12th, 2005 at 5:25 pmWORFEUS is offering a new therom.
It’s called, “OPIE’s RAZOR”
Which basically says, whatever solution the republicans have, the opposite must be correct. :|
December 12th, 2005 at 5:40 pm#57
hahahahahahahahaha Love it!
I don’t care what anyone says about what makes a man sexy – it is definitely wit!
December 12th, 2005 at 5:56 pmGee, thanks unbelievable, and don’t take this wrong, but WORFEUS hopes your a girl. :D
December 12th, 2005 at 6:00 pm#55 – “What is left wing slant about : ITEM:Right after 911 Ari Fleischer said “People need to be careful what they say.†That direct quote is not part of the permanent record for the White House that day. Why? Where is it in the best interest for the govt. to have negative press. Why is it you as an independent blogger have more of a willingness to address me in an open forum than the leader of our nation.”
- Comment by fly-man
****** If this little nugget were anywhere else besides Think Pessimism, I would think that this “contributor” was trying to be humourous — and FAILING miserably!! Good thing Fly-man wasn’t alive and taking up space when FDR thought some secrets were a GOOD THING to keep from the enemies (that’s plural for enemy – we were fighting TWO and a half enemies back in WWII.) And then it all rushes back – I’m at Think Pessimism – where most Progs often personalize EVERYTHING. FYI, Fly-man – it ain’t all about you!!!!!!!!
December 12th, 2005 at 6:19 pmMightyTranny,
You’ve been clocked, why are you here pretending to be either a woman or a ‘real’ person again? And why are you always posting such ‘obsessive’ and ‘clearly deranged’ rantings about pessimism and failing, when clearly you represent both of those traits so consistently!
December 12th, 2005 at 6:21 pmMightyTranny,
The only ’secret’ you care about, is hiding the fact that you’re really a lonely single man sitting on a blow up doll…
December 12th, 2005 at 6:22 pmHey NotSoMighty Aphrodite .
Just remember, the American people are not the enemy:|
December 12th, 2005 at 6:35 pmI am a stock holder in the company called my country. I have a right to see the balance sheet and distill what I may in the open, in writing, what the company has done with my contributions. I just ask for the same access from my country and it’s leader.
December 12th, 2005 at 6:52 pm#30, KMK,
December 12th, 2005 at 7:13 pmThose form letters in reply are a waste of time, money and effort. I throw them out. It is a rare occasion when a reporter (or editor) will actually reply to my comment in follow up, but it has happened.
#63 – “Just remember, the American people are not the enemy”|
Comment by WORFEUS — December 12, 2005 @ 6:35 pm
****** FYI, WORFEUS, the MAJORITY of Americans are not the enemy.
#64 – Fly-man – I’m sure your top-secret security clearance hasn’t been approved by the “stockholders” yet.
December 12th, 2005 at 8:30 pmSo tell me O NotSoMighty Aphrodite, are you saying I’m the enemy?
December 12th, 2005 at 8:36 pmSo tell me O NotSoMighty Aphrodite, are you saying I’m the enemy?
Comment by WORFEUS
They said that long ago. You are the enemy. If the majority of the american people do not conform to their distorted world view, they are the enemy and they make war on them, by any means possible. The majority of the American population is now “the enemy” according to their world view. I intend to show no quarter, no mercy, and take no prisoners. That way the question of torture will never come up. They don’t know anything or have any information of value anyway. They are an endangered species and no one wants to put them on a list they don’t think is that important anyway. We are going to make them go extinct. We don’t even want to put them in a zoo someplace.
“‘Conservative’ is a magic word that applies to those who are in other conservatives’ good graces. Until they aren’t. At which point they are liberals.”
Digby
December 12th, 2005 at 8:49 pmhahahahahahahahaha Love it!
I don’t care what anyone says about what makes a man sexy – it is definitely wit!
Comment by unbelievable — December 12, 2005
That makes our trolls half-sexy because they are half-wits.
December 12th, 2005 at 8:53 pmOh tell me you rule of law wonder MA, when is it against the law to question my government? I thought conservatives were for an Individuals rights. Are you saying i as an individual am not entitled to seek answers to my questions regarding the dispensing of the national treasury? You haven’t addressed my points other than just telling me I can’t have even an explanation or I’m not entitiled to one. Wow.
December 12th, 2005 at 8:57 pmIf you look at the links, you find they’re going to blog entries which merely mention the stories, not to blog entries with a substantive comment to meke.
The whole process is being done by RSS feed with no human intervention.
If the Post or any newspaper is going to link to blog items and maintain its claim to authority, the least it could do is link to blog entries with substantive comments on the stories in question.
But that was never in the cards. It was a “test” designed to fail.
December 12th, 2005 at 10:07 pmhttp://www.dopcampaign.org/historypage.htm
December 13th, 2005 at 4:03 amOh tell me you rule of law wonder MA, when is it against the law to question my government? I thought conservatives were for an Individuals rights. Are you saying i as an individual am not entitled to seek answers to my questions regarding the dispensing of the national treasury? You haven’t addressed my points other than just telling me I can’t have even an explanation or I’m not entitiled to one. Wow.
Comment by the Fly-man — December 12, 2005 @ 8:57 pm
Most classical conservatives, although I have a great many differences with them, too, are already here on this side, and too ashamed to speak up. The Democratic party is the new conservative party. All things considered, although this has been a painful and traumatic experience and process, like birth, it’s going to have a net positive outcome with the death of American crypto-fascism and the possibility of social and economic justice and the protection of disadvantaged minorities returning as important values in American politics.
December 13th, 2005 at 5:29 am#59
I am female, Worfeus…
December 13th, 2005 at 7:08 amI am female, Worfeus…
Comment by unbelievable — December 13, 2005
But can we believe that?
December 13th, 2005 at 10:12 amunbelievable, I was just joking.
I knew you were, it was just a lil yuk yuk.
You rock ubelievable! And thanks for the kind words!
December 13th, 2005 at 12:40 pm#76
I wish there were a better way to relay tone in writing… I meant “Like, you know I am” (hmmm… well, maybe I just shoulda said that :). One (of many) nice things about being liberal – a good sense of humor. I do appreciate yours. Keep up the good work! xox
December 13th, 2005 at 4:06 pm#75
Hmmm… how would one validate gender in a blind forum??? :)
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