Comments on: Ethics committee chairman breaks pledge http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:02:48 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Think Progress » ThinkFast: May 18, 2006 http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-561478 Think Progress » ThinkFast: May 18, 2006 Thu, 18 May 2006 13:08:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-561478 [...] After 16 months of inaction, the House ethics committee will begin bribery investigations into Reps. Bob Ney (R-OH) and William Jefferson (D-LA). Rep. Tom DeLay (R-TX) will escape scrutiny from the committee because he will be leaving Congress last month, breaking Chairman Doc Hasting’s (R-WA) Apr. 2005 pledge to investigate the former House Majority Leader. [...] [...] After 16 months of inaction, the House ethics committee will begin bribery investigations into Reps. Bob Ney (R-OH) and William Jefferson (D-LA). Rep. Tom DeLay (R-TX) will escape scrutiny from the committee because he will be leaving Congress last month, breaking Chairman Doc Hasting’s (R-WA) Apr. 2005 pledge to investigate the former House Majority Leader. [...]

]]> By: GOP Rocks http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-309498 GOP Rocks Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:07:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-309498 When will the GOP investigate Jack Murtha for lying about his position on the war to hide his favors for his brothers? When will the radical dipshits on the left realize ethics will on hurt Democrats because everyone knows they LIE, STEAL and CHEAT to stay in power. When will the GOP investigate Jack Murtha for lying about his position on the war to hide his favors for his brothers? When will the radical dipshits on the left realize ethics will on hurt Democrats because everyone knows they LIE, STEAL and CHEAT to stay in power.

]]> By: burro http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-309176 burro Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:01:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-309176 Standards of Official Conduct Committee They can't even bring themselves to say the word. E-T-H-I-C-S...might as well be C-A-L-C-U-L-U-S. It's a mystery to these corrupt goons. Standards of Official Conduct Committee

They can’t even bring themselves to say the word. E-T-H-I-C-S…might as well be C-A-L-C-U-L-U-S. It’s a mystery to these corrupt goons.

]]> By: Ryan Neat http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-308986 Ryan Neat Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:26:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-308986 A republican who lied? Imagine that! A republican who lied? Imagine that!

]]> By: Joe Sixpack http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-308584 Joe Sixpack Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:51:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-308584 Thanks for the line, True Blue #20, as I sent Doc Hastings an email noting that I expect the Ethics Committee to do their job, no matter how afraid he is of Tom DeLay. Correct me if I'm wrong, but here is one of Rep. Doc Hastings, R-WA recent quotes: "In remembering those who lost their lives in the London attacks and the September 11th attacks we continue our commitment to fighting for freedom, democracy and justice." I mean, he left out the part about "democracy and justice" taking a back seat when it comes to his old friend and corrupt pal, Tom DeLay. Thanks for the line, True Blue #20, as I sent Doc Hastings an email noting that I expect the Ethics Committee to do their job, no matter how afraid he is of Tom DeLay.

Correct me if I’m wrong, but here is one of Rep. Doc Hastings, R-WA recent quotes:

“In remembering those who lost their lives in the London attacks and the September 11th attacks we continue our commitment to fighting for freedom, democracy and justice.”

I mean, he left out the part about “democracy and justice” taking a back seat when it comes to his old friend and corrupt pal, Tom DeLay.

]]> By: Wayne A. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-308555 Wayne A. Schneider Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:26:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-308555 Now that I think about it, this very "truce" is a violation of the first item of the Code of Ethics for Government Service! The agreement forces members to put loyalty to their party ahead of loyalty to their country. How unethical! And ironic! But I don't think they would see it as either. Now that I think about it, this very “truce” is a violation of the first item of the Code of Ethics for Government Service! The agreement forces members to put loyalty to their party ahead of loyalty to their country. How unethical! And ironic! But I don’t think they would see it as either.

]]> By: Wayne A. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-308551 Wayne A. Schneider Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:20:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-308551 #20 My understanding of this "truce" was that the Democrats would not call for an investigation of any Republican and the Republicans would not call for an investigation of any Democrat. The upshot was that a Member would be investigated only if someone from that Member's own party called for it. I found it ironic that in a section called “CODE OF ETHICS FOR GOVERNMENT SERVICE”, the first item after “Any person in Government service should:” reads: 1. Put loyalty to the highest moral principals and to country above loyalty to Government persons, party, or department. And yet I often see Members of both parties clearly putting their loyalty to party above loyalty to country. #20 My understanding of this “truce” was that the Democrats would not call for an investigation of any Republican and the Republicans would not call for an investigation of any Democrat. The upshot was that a Member would be investigated only if someone from that Member’s own party called for it.

I found it ironic that in a section called “CODE OF ETHICS FOR GOVERNMENT SERVICE”, the first item after “Any person in Government service should:” reads:
1. Put loyalty to the highest moral principals and to country above loyalty to Government persons, party, or department.

And yet I often see Members of both parties clearly putting their loyalty to party above loyalty to country.

]]> By: True Blue http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-308542 True Blue Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:12:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-308542 This link sends you to the Ethics Committee Members. There you can click on a name, and start emailing. That the House Members formed "a truce" (comment by M. Sloane on Al Franken yesterday) and agreed not to investigate ANYONE is outrageous. It gives these clowns carte blanche. I for one am tired of this. I'm going to start my writing campaign now. http://www.house.gov/ethics/CommitteeMembers.htm This link sends you to the Ethics Committee Members. There you can click on a name, and start emailing.
That the House Members formed “a truce” (comment by M. Sloane on Al Franken yesterday) and agreed not to investigate ANYONE is outrageous. It gives these clowns carte blanche. I for one am tired of this.
I’m going to start my writing campaign now.

http://www.house.gov/ethics/CommitteeMembers.htm

]]> By: Wayne A. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-308495 Wayne A. Schneider Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:42:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-308495 #17 My biggest problem with many Members of Congress is the lack of an ability to understand what both "conflict of interest" and, more importantly, what "the appearance of a conflict of interest" mean. They just don't seem to understand that to the ordinary citizen, when you give lots and lots of money to a candidate and that candidate wins and agrees to meet with you to discuss what laws you;d like to see passed or repealed, it can create the appearance of a conflict of interest. Because they do it all the time, they don't see how it looks to us. It looks just fine to them, but they forget that they are not us, and it looks really, really bad to us. #17 My biggest problem with many Members of Congress is the lack of an ability to understand what both “conflict of interest” and, more importantly, what “the appearance of a conflict of interest” mean. They just don’t seem to understand that to the ordinary citizen, when you give lots and lots of money to a candidate and that candidate wins and agrees to meet with you to discuss what laws you;d like to see passed or repealed, it can create the appearance of a conflict of interest. Because they do it all the time, they don’t see how it looks to us. It looks just fine to them, but they forget that they are not us, and it looks really, really bad to us.

]]> By: Hardy Haberman http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-308492 Hardy Haberman Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:41:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-308492 This should surprise no one. By their record, Republicans will promise anything and then go right ahead and do what they planned all along. The decit and duplicity they show is beyond belief, perhaps that is why so many Americans continue to believe them? Time to hold these guys accountable. If they lie, call them what they are, LIARS. If they cheat call them CHEATERS, and if they get us nito wars on false pretenses IMPEACH them. This should surprise no one. By their record, Republicans will promise anything and then go right ahead and do what they planned all along. The decit and duplicity they show is beyond belief, perhaps that is why so many Americans continue to believe them?

Time to hold these guys accountable. If they lie, call them what they are, LIARS. If they cheat call them CHEATERS, and if they get us nito wars on false pretenses IMPEACH them.

]]> By: Chris in AZ http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-308481 Chris in AZ Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:37:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-308481 Thanks Wayne -looks like I'll have some reading to do this weekend, this should be refrenced often every sunday morning by Russert, Wallace, Shafer, Blitzer, and Stephanopolus (sp) when these guys come out of the woodwork and spew there excuses on Networks Thanks Wayne -looks like I’ll have some reading to do this weekend, this should be refrenced often every sunday morning by Russert, Wallace, Shafer, Blitzer, and Stephanopolus (sp) when these guys come out of the woodwork and spew there excuses on Networks

]]> By: Pablo in Mexico http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-308467 Pablo in Mexico Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:32:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-308467 WAGE THE DOG is absolutely correct. Bush said today that he knows he went to war with bad intelligence, and then said, intelligently, that he would do the same thing all over again. Does anyone doubt his intelligence? I certainly do. WAGE THE DOG is absolutely correct. Bush said today that he knows he went to war with bad intelligence, and then said, intelligently, that he would do the same thing all over again.

Does anyone doubt his intelligence? I certainly do.

]]> By: Wayne A. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-308465 Wayne A. Schneider Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:30:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-308465 Chris in AZ, I agree in principle. I'm just saying that should DeLay get acquitted, Rep Hastings's excuse for not investigating would likely be that an acquittal means (to him) "nothing wrong was done." www.house.gov/ethics/ is the site for "Committee on Standards of Official Conduct". www.house.gov/ethics/Ethicforward.html gets you to the "Ethics Manual For Members, Officers, and Employees of the U.S. House of Representatives." (Though they caution you to "Please note: This document is for reference purposes only. The printed manual is the official version.") Chris in AZ,
I agree in principle. I’m just saying that should DeLay get acquitted, Rep Hastings’s excuse for not investigating would likely be that an acquittal means (to him) “nothing wrong was done.”

http://www.house.gov/ethics/ is the site for “Committee on Standards of Official Conduct”. http://www.house.gov/ethics/Ethicforward.html gets you to the “Ethics Manual For Members, Officers, and Employees of the U.S. House of Representatives.” (Though they caution you to “Please note: This document is for reference purposes only. The printed manual is the official version.”)

]]> By: Burton Burland Jr. http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-308453 Burton Burland Jr. Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:24:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-308453 WAG THE DOG! WAG THE DOG!

]]> By: Chris in AZ http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-308450 Chris in AZ Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:20:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-308450 TP reported last week regarding the real reason go to war <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/07/war-to-start-all-wars/" rel="nofollow"> How does this stand up ethically?????</a> TP reported last week regarding the real reason go to war

How does this stand up ethically?????

]]> By: Chris in AZ http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-308438 Chris in AZ Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:16:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-308438 legality has no bearing on ethics ...so regardless of DeLay's outcome, or the SCOTUS decision on redistricting ...there must have been ethical violations (does anyone have a link to their code of ethics, its probably a good reference) ...morality defines ethics, so it is only proper, that with an administration with no morals, there will be no ethical oversight legality has no bearing on ethics
…so regardless of DeLay’s outcome, or the SCOTUS decision on redistricting
…there must have been ethical violations (does anyone have a link to their code of ethics, its probably a good reference)
…morality defines ethics, so it is only proper, that with an administration with no morals, there will be no ethical oversight

]]> By: Ellis http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-308428 Ellis Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:11:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-308428 Liars to the bitter end. Quite a "family value" they must have learned. Liars to the bitter end. Quite a “family value” they must have learned.

]]> By: Wayne A. Schneider http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-308416 Wayne A. Schneider Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:03:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-308416 You may be right, Marie. In any case, I think it's overdue. Anyway, I apologize to TP and everyone if I got us "off topic" so, like I said... When will they investigate Bob Ney? Or are they just going to wait to see if he pleads guilty and resigns his seat like the "Duke-Stir" did? You may be right, Marie. In any case, I think it’s overdue. Anyway, I apologize to TP and everyone if I got us “off topic” so, like I said…

When will they investigate Bob Ney? Or are they just going to wait to see if he pleads guilty and resigns his seat like the “Duke-Stir” did?

]]> By: Lesly http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-308410 Lesly Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:01:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-308410 What a surprise! What a surprise!

]]> By: Pessimist http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/14/ethics-committee-chairman-breaks-pledge-to-immediately-investigate-delay/comment-page-1/#comment-308401 Pessimist Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:59:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/?p=2868#comment-308401 Sounds like this chap went to school with (Sc)Alito. Say one thing to get the job, then abandon your pledge once you have the job. (aka "lie") Sounds like this chap went to school with (Sc)Alito. Say one thing to get the job, then abandon your pledge once you have the job. (aka “lie”)

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