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Climate change, potentially the biggest problem humans have ever faced and we have a President who is more in sync with the “Left Behind” crowd than with scientists.
December 14th, 2005 at 11:53 pmJust don’t think that drowning link has enough emphasis, this is pretty incredible.
maybe
December 14th, 2005 at 11:59 pm
You can’t be serious.
December 15th, 2005 at 12:01 amKoyaanisqatsi (life out of balance)………HOw incredibly sad what we are doing to the Earth and ALL that inhabit it
December 15th, 2005 at 12:17 amDallas and Austin were once ocean front properties. The chimp is only trying to restore the environment to it’s pristine state of 8 milion years ago.
December 15th, 2005 at 12:26 amGrrrr! Grrrr-glug-glug! Blub! Blub! Blub!
December 15th, 2005 at 2:23 amMerde!
December 15th, 2005 at 6:51 amBad enough that global warming is
December 15th, 2005 at 7:31 amhappening, but that the government
of the country that produces 25%
of the greenhouse gases “pretends”
the problem doesn’t exist is morally
bankrupt.
At this point there is no serious
conflict among climate scientists that:
1) The climate is warming beyond historical norms
2) At least SOME of this warming
is caused by human activity
Note to wing-nuts: please don’t bother citing a
link to an ExxonMobil sponsored study published
in a non-peer reviewed “journal”. The evidence is
too strong to take that self-serving political B.S. seriously anymore.
For good discussion of climate science,
please take a look at these guys:
Real Climate
December 15th, 2005 at 7:34 amI posted this yesterday re the polar bears:
https://secureusa.greenpeace.org/securedonate/?usa_source_template=polarbear
It contains a lot of info besides being able to donate to greenpeace on the site.
December 15th, 2005 at 8:18 amWouldn’t that shock the kids. Before the movie starts watching Coca-Cola’s cute animated polar bears clinging to a coke bottle as they go down.
Global warming – it’s the real thing.
This is so sad.
December 15th, 2005 at 9:02 amThe wingnuts won’t care. If it’s not human embryos, fetuses or their own progeny, they don’t value it. It’s devistatingly clear in their environmental policies.
I’m sure some one will now organize Artic tours of the Polar devistation, and make money off this horrific situtation. Why stop at New Orleans?
December 15th, 2005 at 9:04 amHey! Who was supposed to teach them to swim? Whoever it was is doing… A HECKUVA JOB!!!
December 15th, 2005 at 9:29 amI am not going to deny that there may in fact be global warming. The reason question is what is causing it. My theory is that is not us. The evidence for this does not come from this planet but Mars, where the polar caps are melting. Thats right, I said melting. Unless we are sending too many orbiters up there creating greenhouse gases, there is a bigger reason for the warming. So before Bush does something stupid like sign the Kyoto protocol, lets hope that the news finally gets out.
Here’s the proof:
http://www.capmag.com/news.asp?ID=1465
December 15th, 2005 at 9:36 amPolar bears are predators. They eat seals. If there are fewer polar bears, there will be more seals. The population of polar bears is closer to 100 thousand, not 25 thousand.
I’m a predator, too. I eat beef. This fall, my two sons shot two white-tailed deer. There are so many deer, they need to be culled by hunting them.
Way up North, it’s still cold.
The earth has been cooling down for the past 1100 years. In the fourteenth century, a hamlet in the French Alps was mowed down by an advancing glacier. The coast of Greenland was inhabited by Norwegian farmers from the tenth century to the end of the thirteenth century. It was nicer there than in Norway. The climate cooled, and the Norwegian farmers were no more in Greenland. It got too cold to farm along the coastline of Greenland.
If anything, the earth is warming to what it once was.
Polar bears will adapt to the changing climate, too.
December 15th, 2005 at 9:43 am#15
Ron, Your ignorance is charming, really. But why don’t you go spread it somewhere else.
December 15th, 2005 at 9:48 amEARTH QUAKE SHOULD BE MORE OF A CONCERN THAN GLOBAL WARMING TO AMERICANS ON THE EAST AND WEST COASTS.
December 15th, 2005 at 9:49 amTECTONIC PLATES MOVE.
California is due for A GREAT EARTHQUAKE OF ASTRONOMICAL DISASTER.
December 15th, 2005 at 9:51 amThe Madrid Zone on the East Coast of America is a DEEP UNDER GROUND FAULT RUNNING FROM LA ALL THE WAY UP TO THE GREAT LAKES AND INTO Canada!
December 15th, 2005 at 9:52 amThe Tectonic Plate that N America sits On is Moving Into the Pacific Plate causing an Astromical Subduction
December 15th, 2005 at 9:54 amLittle is Known of Tectonic Plates. Even USGS Admits that.
December 15th, 2005 at 9:55 amDon’t be alarmed, this is part of the intelligent design.
- James Dobson
December 15th, 2005 at 9:57 am#14,
1) You have a link to “Mars icecaps are melting”?
I ask because I have read about Mars a good bit and what
I got from it was:
* Evidence of liquid having passed through areas
* Periodic melting may have occurred
It would also seems that we have VERY little experience
with Mars. We are just getting started.
I think making ANY assertions on Earth climate based
on what is happening/happened on Mars is making a HUGE
leap.
#16,
The whole predator discussion has nothing to do
with climate science.
“cold” is a relative terms and means nothing in this
context.
Climate history has been a large part of the
December 15th, 2005 at 9:59 amwarming debate. Nothing in your summary (I assume you
are correct) says whether warming today has a human
component to it. Climate science is past this discussion
by now. The question is not just whether the climate
is warming, but how the added greenhouse gases
will affect the overall trends.
#22 They won’t do anything on a National level about this. Past behavior is a good predictor of future behavior. The wingnuts did nothing to stop 9/11 despite the intelligence there, nothing to prevent Katrina from being the monstrosity that it is, they’ve ignored the Kyoto Protocol as well as any real envirnomental fights on Global Warming due to Greehouse emissions – and they will do nothing to prepare for earthquakes, tsunamis, or anything else.
December 15th, 2005 at 9:59 amFor every nitwit who feels like telling the readers global warming is not a fact or is not caused by humans: imagine all the cars around, imagine all the factories around, imagine all the heating and airconditioning systems around. It doesn’t take an intellectual to see that we’re probably the cause of the rise in temperature. We are living in the hot air from factories, car and cow gases. The fact that the industrialized West has heated more overall indicates that industrialisation has something to do with it. Open your eyes or shut your mouth. Not the other way around. The environment is going to hell and it’s probably already too late, considering the enourmous interests that are connected to every aspect of the cause of global warming.
December 15th, 2005 at 10:01 am#15 Under the same premises:
More seals, less fish for human compsumption. Idiot. Forget fishing in northern rivers and oceans, you hunter-whacko.
December 15th, 2005 at 10:03 amThere are no guarantees in this life. none. Not for humans, polar bears or bald eagles. Nothing is sacred, it all dries up and blows away.
Everybody is oh so concerned about a few polars bears who are drowning in artic waters. That’s good.
“Oh, those poor polar bears. They’re drowning because of global warming. Oh my God, somebody save them, the poor things. This is terrible.”
How about the 1.5 million abortions year in and year out in the US alone. Where is the moral outrage there?
Hypocrites.
December 15th, 2005 at 10:03 am#24
They (climatologists) pulled the ice core and studied it. It is something. Something thatphysically shows how WE are responsible. It’s relatively new, so I haven’t found the link to the smoking gun, but will post it when I have found it.
December 15th, 2005 at 10:05 am#25. Read #17-21.
December 15th, 2005 at 10:05 am#28
Ron, fetuses are not viable. Polar bears are.
December 15th, 2005 at 10:07 am#27,
You really don’t understand why the polar bears
December 15th, 2005 at 10:08 ammight be an indicator of major problems for
many creatures including us?
I don’t think global warming is causing
any abortions or were you bringing this
up as a distraction?
#30, I did
December 15th, 2005 at 10:08 amAll of the natural CO2 in the atmosphere was replaced during the Industrial Revolution. There is not a single molecule of CO2 on this earth that wasn’t replace by some smelter in here on earth from the 1600’s on.
If you don’t want global warming, stop driving. Stop using electricity. Stop using natural gas to heat your home. Just live a simple existence and burn wood for heat and cooking. There won’t be a tree left on earth.
Thousands of cords of wood burning in here.
December 15th, 2005 at 10:10 am#35 + 36
Please go back on your meds… you’re acting paranoid.
December 15th, 2005 at 10:15 amThey Should Be Targeting the Prostutes For Soliciting Unwanted Business!
By Laura Blumenfeld
Updated: 1:51 a.m. ET Dec. 15, 2005
December 15th, 2005 at 10:17 amAnti-prostitution effort targets pimps and johns
Unlikely coalition of Republicans, Democrats works to help women.
Women ARE The PIMPS AND PROSTITUTES!
#39
So are men…
December 15th, 2005 at 10:20 amWhy is it that this site attracts so many Trolls?
Yea, I know Judd is way more tolerant than most blogs, but still. It would be different if those that posted conservative points of view actually engaged in discussion and debate, but look at what we’ve had. Hell, check any thread for the last year and we have maybe 4 conservatives that will actually talk to you.
Now, as liberal as I am, I’m not saying every progressive voice here is fully balanced. We’ve got our own voices in the wilderness howling at the moon, but really now. Where would one go to attract viable, intelligent righties. Not bushies, they aren’t intelligent right from the git go.
On topic, off the point – How do you save a drowning polar bear 60 miles out at sea? Who is gonna man that Zodiac? not me.
December 15th, 2005 at 10:20 am#40
A couple of the long-term regulars told me that it’s because it’s the only site where they can post. You know, irony and all :), they come to the progressive site to post because the conservative one won’t let them. Freedom here…
December 15th, 2005 at 10:22 am“Why is it that this site attracts so many Trolls?”
What attracted you, kindness? LOL
December 15th, 2005 at 10:26 amwwallybaby – you are a poster boy for my comments in 37. You are too much a moron to see it though. Can you string two multi-sylable words together properly in a sentance?
December 15th, 2005 at 10:54 amPS – my spelling is atrociaous. Sorry, it’s just a blog. I’m not gonna run it through a spell-checker.
December 15th, 2005 at 10:55 amkindness,
There’s a mental illness called paranoid personality disorder that causes the sufferer to seek out those who don’t share his opinions (say a conservative retard like wankerwallace who trolls a progressive site) and to go to try to ’stamp out’ those opinions. It comes from the inability of that person to process disent that interferes with their delusion…
Republicanism = Psychosis
December 15th, 2005 at 11:27 amNumber 31, one day here on earth long, long ago, it was a tough day for the dinosaurs, too. Same goes for the Dodo bird and the Passenger Pigeon.
Prisoners in the Gulags of Siberia ate frozen fish frozen thousands of years ago while swimming in the stream. Wooly Mamoths frozen in a glacier, discovered a few years ago in Siberia. There were indicators, then too.
If you were on earth back some time ago and lost in the midst of the Carribean Islands, you were in danger of being eaten by the Carib tribesmen; the cannibals that they were. They were an indicator back then.
There will always be indicators as long as there are humans interacting with the environment.
At one time, diptheria took its toll on humans. Nowadays, it’s neoplasms.
Another freaking indicator. Human exixtence has adapted to accumulation of wealth and its practiced applications. Some are good. Six billion people are an indicator that humans love life more than they realize.
Humans must adapt to the flotsam and jetsam. Polar bears will, too.
Humans are in greater danger of massive dieoff than Polar bears are. 25 thousand nuclear weapons stockpiled at 300 thousand or more deaths per weapon is more perilous than the peril the Polar bears are confronted with. Another indicator, those nuclear weapons.
Just another day in Paradise
December 15th, 2005 at 11:30 am#44
6.3 billion people on earth is a good sign of our predatory nature. A few people caring about the fate of polar bears as a result of that predatory nature is called compassion. Clearly, the human species is again evolving along two different paths. Those of us who are evolving a mental capacity for ‘humanity’ and thinking, and those of you who retain the ignorance and predatory nature of our evolutionary ancestors. Guess which side will eventually blow up the earth?
December 15th, 2005 at 11:36 am#43
blah blah blah blah blah has happened before blah blah blah blha who cares blah blah blah
Yes, happened when a massive meteoritic rock crashed in the hearth. All the higher forms of life in Earth dissappeared, due to the same greenhouse effect that is happenning now. We are descendants from the rats of that era.
So, if we don’t stop the global warming, the only survivors wouldn’t be the heirs of your precious human fetuses, but the descendants of your fridge’s cockroaches.
December 15th, 2005 at 12:36 pmGee, better spelling: replace hearth with Earth. Or hearth of life on Earth, as you wish.
December 15th, 2005 at 12:38 pm#43 Yes, and we are adjusting to having unintelligent people in the WH – don’t make it right.
December 15th, 2005 at 12:39 pmFor those who are not aware, there is a group actively involved in defending our environment against the Bush and Republican onslaught to kill our planet. It is the National Resources Defense Counsel. If you join, you get a regular newsletter informing us of the attacks on our environment, and what is being done to stop them. Go here to take a look. Join up.
National Resources Defense Counsel
December 15th, 2005 at 1:12 pmhttp://www.nrdc.org/
Sorry, typing too fast. It’s the NATURAL Resources Defense Counsel. Website is still the same: http://www.nrdc.org/
December 15th, 2005 at 1:13 pm#27
There are no guarantees in this life. none. Not for humans, polar bears or bald eagles. Nothing is sacred, it all dries up and blows away.
So does that mean that preventative measures shouldn’t be used?
Everybody is oh so concerned about a few polars bears who are drowning in artic waters. That’s good.
“Oh, those poor polar bears. They’re drowning because of global warming. Oh my God, somebody save them, the poor things. This is terrible.â€
Did you not read the whole article? The outrage isn’t just because polar bears are drowning. It’s because of what said drownings indicate for human beings.
How about the 1.5 million abortions year in and year out in the US alone. Where is the moral outrage there?
Hypocrites.
Comment by Ron — December 15, 2005 @ 10:03 am
Boy, that’s a stretch Ron, but I’ll bite. An abortion is an act of choice. Nobody stands on corners and solicits abortions. Folks either want one or they don’t. It’s not mandatory for an abortion to occur. C-H-O-I-C-E is the operative word. Would you want the federal government or those that disagree with a LEGAL choice that you made to take said choice away from you? I think not. Besides, according to your earlier argument, we shouldn’t care about abortions anyway. Nothing is sacred remember. It will all just dry up and blow away. Thanks for negating your own argument. It’s been fun. Thanks for playing.
December 15th, 2005 at 1:47 pmAvoiding a Fate like Mars for Earth: Life on Planet in Imminent Danger
by Raymond Samuels
University of Toronto
Backgrounder:
Ignoring Global Warming risks precipitating a Global Pan-Famine/Starvation from Africa, right into Europe, the United States, and Canada, unless in can be stopped and reversed in a very timely manner. Such a milieu would occur with soaring temperatures, destoying the oceans, with corresponding record drought conditions in agricultural lands, threatening the food supply internationally.
The issue of Global Warming:
There are apparently some people who think that the current “Greenhouse Effect” will simply lead to an “evolutionary” change in the global climate, so that climatic areas in the northern hemisphere like Canada, Scandinavia, Russia, Alaska in the U.S., and Antarctica in the southern hemisphere will become like one big tropical resort area like Tahiti, Cuba, or Jamaica. Soon everyone will be enjoying glorious sunshine, and sipping exotic tropical drinks in Nova Scotia, Baffin Island in the Canadian Arctic, or around the Arctic waters of Siberia, according to people with this apparent view. These people profess a dislike for the cold, and they therefore welcome any change that might eventually get rid of their abhored winter blaaaaahs.
Unfortunately for these people, such a view is not supported by critical scientific evidence, beyond “scientific infomercials” and propaganda pieces that have been sponsored by various well-financed Big Business interests. Indeed, it has been the job of the largely corporate owned mass-media in Canada, and elsewhere, to channel viewers, readers, and listeners into responses which will complement the elite pursuit of insatiable commercial profit. This corporate owned mass-media does not want to draw public attention to the dire fate which awaits the public, if ‘the Economy’ is not rejuvenated in a manner that minimizes social and environmental costs.
The large scale ‘owners of capital’ have structured the prevailing capitalistic economy to principally serve their interests in the pursuit of money, status, and power for themselves. Like heroine or “crack” cocaine drug addicts, ‘capitalistocrats’ have become so addicted to the pursuit of a self-absorbing materialistic lifestyle predicted on money, status, and power, they would much rather apparently destroy our planet, and all life along with it, than to change their ways of drug-like abuse. Indeed, the mass-media in the prevailing capitalistocratic systems of Canada, the United States, United Kingdom, continental Europe, and elsewhere, are no less corrupt than the politicians which they are supposedly “holding accountable”.
The mass-media has apparently covered-up the fate that awaits humanity, and the rest of our planet, if there is not an immediate substantive response to the Global Warming threat beyond the relatively superficial responses associated with the extremely slow responses to fulfilling the relatively superficial Kyoto Protocol. Indeed, failure to redress Global Warming with great alacrity, will not mythically result in northern hemispheres being turned into extensions of “tropical paradises”.
The cold air masses that hover over the Arctic and Antarctic climatic areas of the planet are absolutely vital to moderating the temperatures of planet Earth. Global Warming by the irresponsible activities of greed driven private enterprises under American led “global capitalism”, are destroying these vital climatic areas at an alarming rates. As a human species, we have already witnessed deadly heat waves and humidity. The accompanying worsening cancer causing ultra violet (UV) rays due to rapid accompanying ozone depletion is already creating experiences which almost feel like a form of radiation poisoning. Further accompanying weather cataclysms including more devastating hurricanes like Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans in late Summer 2005, and other such ”weather events” are only a relatively small tip of the iceberg so-to-speak.
The “hellish” summer of 2005 internationally has poignantly showed relative to the comparatively milder Summer 2004, that changes due to the abusive activities by human beings on the planet can be sudden, and extremely drastic. The current quantuum advancing devastating destructive impacts of American-led “global capitalism” are threatening to precipitate a catastrophic global drought in vital agricultural areas internationally that the world has never ever seen; due to unending rising temperatures, that will make the traditional temperature characteristics of the tropics today (that have benefited from Arctic and Antarctic moderation) seem like comparative ice boxes. Worsening “hellish” summers will lead into hellish other parts of the year also, with the prospective disappearance of the Arctic and Antarctic climatic areas. The inevitable result of such allowed phenomenon will be an ensuing Global Famine that so far, the world has also never seen spreading from the United States and Canada, into Europe and the rest of the World.
The rising temperatures of the oceans would eventually completely destroy all vital air (oxygen) producing plankton. A global crisis in agricultural production would be further accompanied by the cascading rapid dying out of all species in the ocean. The oceans would become dead polluted waters (the Gulf of Mexico has already been basically destroyed, with other parts of the ocean following pursuit).
In such a milieu of Global Famine, the world would be taken over by various warring military camps threatening each other with nuclear annihilation, and privately-run “terrorist” organizations trying to forcibly acquire what little of the Earth is left, for the exclusive use of elites, criminal syndicates, and gangs, leaving “masses” to perish in a milieu of spiralling global starvation, and poverty in a climate of socio-economic chaos and societal upheaval. Indeed, the mass-media has hypocritically ignored the extent to which ‘capitalism’ is actually the root cause of growing apparent “terrorism” as more and more people are turning to violent political extremism, in the face of environmental destruction, related oppression, and overall declines in quality-of-living.
Having destroyed the air-producing ocean life, and rainforests under a greed driven ethos of capitalism, soon even the Global Air Supply would become threatened with the overall rapid decay of vital ecosystems. Global Warming promises the convert the whole Earth not into a tropical paradise, but rather into a giant coffin, where all life on the planet will miserably perish. The Earth will eventually become very similar to Mars sooner than you think, unless the whole economic system can rejuvenated from its self-destructive path of Global Warming and accompanying pollution including ozone depletion. The human race will simply become a footnote for other possible space exploring advanced species in the universe to study in their future scientific missions of archaeological discovery, unless humanity changes from its current overall destructive ways.
People in their communities can either choose to play Ninetendo games, and worry about various other materialistic lifestyle considerations in “blissful ignorance”, in the image of the elites who prevail over self-destructive capitalistocracies, or alternatively, people can choose to rally their governments for vitally needed social change. ‘Sober’ members of the diverse public must either become actively engaged in redressing the shortcomings of the prevailing economic system, or face the dire consequences of their jaded attitudes. Members of the diverse public who are concerned about their immediate quality-of-survival cannot afford to be complacent. These members of the diverse public must use what little that remains of destroyed democratic systems (that have been taken-over by the substantive operation of ‘capitalistocracy’) to challenge corrupted government leaders.
Government leaders have allowed themselves to be seduced and “bought-out” by self-serving greed-driven interests, that operate against the vital affirmation of the quality-of-living interests of the diverse public that these leaders were supposedly elected to serve; and against the interests of quality-of-living seeking human beings internationally. So far, these government leaders have chosen to substantively ignore capitalistocractic activities that precipitate Global Warming, and accompanying pollution and worsening poverty which are being executed by “generous donors” to their political campaigns, that prop-up their political power. People must either turn away en masse, from the norms of the prevailing capitalism that has corrupted the integrity of democratic systems, or face certain Mars-like global self-destruction.
ABOUT THE AUTHOR:
Raymond Samuels has a professional background as an academic lectuer, and is the author/co-author/editor of diverse books.
Recommended Books:
Capitalism is Not Democracy, Part I, ISBN: 1894934636
The Kyoto Protocol Is Not Enough!, Part I:
Replace Capitalistocracy including the GDP Index
Toward a New Political Economy of
Social Justice and Environmental Protection
by Raymond Samuels II, ed.. ISBN: 1894839978, 2005
The Kyoto Protocol Is Not Enough!, Part II:
Replace Capitalistocracy including the GDP Index
Toward a New Political Economy of
Social Justice and Environmental Protection
by Raymond Samuels II, ed., ISBN: 1894934342, 2005
internet site reference:
The Canadian National Newspaper
http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com
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