Comments on: Take The Time To Get PATRIOT Right

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By: big papa

big papa — Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:16:21 +0000

Here’s a tidbit for all you red state Bushites that you might find interesting. I was summarily banned (without explanation)from the redstate.org site for posting contrarian views to the posts on that site. I violated no posting rules, and in fact offered some very civil and (I’d say) sanguine points and remarks.

My point is this, right wing red state Bush worshipping inbreds are welcomed with open arms (with some mild criticisms of their contrarian views) on Progressive sites. They are seldom banned and certainly NOT for presenting their points of view within the posting rules, yet the reverse is not true. Bushites fear TRUTH on their “group think” sites. They are afraid that a ray of sunshine might ruin their mushroom crops!

hmmmm

By: big papa

big papa — Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:02:32 +0000

Puny hermaphrodite#’s 51 and 52,

Progressives are the REAL American patriots and you facist right wingers are outnumbered, that is why you haven’t established any camps. if you could by god you would. but be careful attempting to do what you aren’t equipped to do- think out loud- as you might give someone an idea of what Americans might need to do with our “right wing facist” problem. The civil war is just begging for closure!

hahahah, leaving Iraq! After building a $600 million dollar embassy, $500 million dollar military bases ringing the place, spending an overall total of somewhere in the neighborhood of $2-300 billion, and L’il Dick and his energy boys having staked out the iraq map oil territory, we ain’t goin’ nowhere l’il Missy!

By: mighty aphrodite

mighty aphrodite — Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:24:36 +0000

#6 – “We need International cooperation, not the foreign policy of imperialism.” – toys
*****toys, stop regurgitating the lefty line – imperialism is occupying (acquiring) a country – (see the examples provided by the former British Empire, the Soviet Union, etc.) From what I’ve been able to gleen, we plan on leaving when Iraqi security can be reasonably well-maintained.

By: mighty aphrodite

mighty aphrodite — Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:16:06 +0000

Dear Senator Leahy – If you actually take the time to read the posts at this blog you might notice the recurring fear many “progressives” have today – specifically – they view conservatives and fascists as one in the same. My question to them (when they quit foaming at the mouth) is this, “If the fascism you allege were true, why are you still here?? I would think you would find uyour collective selves in a camp by now.”

By: big papa

big papa — Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:27:04 +0000

Evil #’s 48 and 49,

That’s old news. This has been going on since old cross dressing J. Edgar (it’s a shame one of our top law enforcement public buildings in D.C. is named for that racist, psuedohomophobic, hypocrite). The Chicago seven, Black Panthers and cointelpro (counter intelligence program) were the benchmarks of radical domestic intelligence gathering by our DOJ (an oxymoron if there ever was one!)

By: Evil Spaniard

Evil Spaniard — Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:51:32 +0000

Pentagon admits keeping database on US civilians deemed suspicious

By: Evil Spaniard

Evil Spaniard — Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:49:42 +0000

A worthy link for the debate:

Pentagon admits keeping database on US civilians deemed suspicious – Yahoo

By: big papa

big papa — Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:27:45 +0000

â€œThe Bushâ€™s Administrationâ€™s tendencies to unilateralism â€“ aided and abetted by conservative leaders in Congress â€“ have produced some of the worst decisions, scandals and excesses of the last four years.â€

When a senator starts off his post with a lie, itâ€™s not a good sign.

Stop playing politics with US national security, senator.

Comment by wwallace â€” December 14, 2005

wwallace,
STILL IN WONDERLAND.

By: Nancy

Nancy — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:27:25 +0000

Dear senator, the terrorists are terrible people to have done what they have done, the violence they have done; we can all agree about that, but that is not all that the terrorists have done. Not just their violence. Terrorists intimidated the USA into a place of unconstitutional uproar, and it is your job, senator, and the job of your peers on the hill to NOT allow the terrorists’ influence cause the ultimate destruction of good old fashioned American mainstream RELIGIOUS FREEDOM for us law-abiding, mainstream American citizens (ie, Bible-believing protestants). There needs to be balance. The war on violence needs to respect the law-abiding majority’s personal PRIVACY rights…and PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP rights. If the war on terrorism disrespects these fundamentals of American freedom, then what will the war on terrorism grow into? A free-for-all (communism) (fascism) etc.? Because it’s starting to look that way. No wonder the public expresses concern about the war. I’m very glad not to be a politician. Your job must be a drag sometimes. Have a nice day.

By: WORFEUS

WORFEUS — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:10:19 +0000

Well I guess the House ain’t listening.

They just renewed the Patriot Act.

By: True Blue

True Blue — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:59:55 +0000

P.S. “Just say NO” to Alito….

By: True Blue

True Blue — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:59:08 +0000

I appreciate all of your efforts, Sen Leahy.
I hope you print out these comments and use some of them in your negotiations with other officials. Maybe if they see that the people are really against this they might stand up a bit more.
You might also want to point out to these people that the person fighting hardest to keep the Patriot Act is the man who is KNOWN to have called the Constitution “… a godd*mn piece of paper.”

By: Marie

Marie — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:52:16 +0000

#10,
Lie:
To make an untrue statement with the intent to deceive.
To create a false or misleading impression.
Opinion:
A view, judgment or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter.
A generally held view.
A conclusion thought out, yet open to dispute.
When Party A disagrees with Party B, it doesn’t mean Party A is a liar. It means Party B is ignorantly employing ad hominem attacks.
Most thinking people agree with Sen. Leahy, however, a few cretins may disagree. They have a right to disagree, the poor souls, unable to think clearly.
We take pity on them in their ignorance and though we may try to enlighten them, they prefer to remain in the dark.

By: Willy

Willy — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:39:08 +0000

Unfortunately we have an administration that uses fear as a tool to manipulate the people and the patriot act is one of the end results of this fear. Ever since 911 we’ve needed a president who would say something appropriate such as “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself”. Instead we have moron dumbya who uses fear to his advantage to promote an immoral war, to promote torture and to take away civil liberties.

Fear=Hate
Hate=War
War=Killing, Suffering, Torture, etc.

Enough fear already.

By: Gary Kleppe

Gary Kleppe — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:31:54 +0000

I was goofing on the constitution posted in #2â€¦

OK, I guess my sarcasm detector needs a tune-up. :)

as for pre/post terror – I was scared of Washington before 9-11 and still am now, theyâ€™ll harm more citizens then terrorist can ever dream of!..how can you try not to be terrified?

Being scared is perfectly understandable… just don’t let it keep us from fighting back.

By: toys

toys — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:26:31 +0000

“One of my favorite uses of the Patriot Act was when I pushed through the Texas redistricting. You see, those pesky Democrats tried to stall me by hidin’, but I used the FBI to catch ‘um. Works like a charm.” Memoirs of Tom DeLay

By: WORFEUS

WORFEUS — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:05:05 +0000

P.S

What’s with the milk and cookies with Nancy Pelosi?

You guys do make a good looking couple though ;}