Cheney caves?
By on Dec 15th, 2005 at 12:25 pm
Cheney caves?
“After months of resistance, the White House has agreed to accept Sen. John McCain’s call for a law specifically banning cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment of foreign suspects in the war on terror, several congressional officials said Thursday.”
UPDATE: Andrew Sullivan: “I’m told a White House statement is imminent on the McCain Amendent. I’m told the White House has embraced the amendment, with no changes.”
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“We don’t torture”
“We will veto any legislation that includes a ban on torture”
“Torture is evil and we need to ban it”
Flippy Floppy
December 15th, 2005 at 12:37 pmAnyone see that little turd Jeff Sessions defend this crap last nite? How did the people of Alabama elect this shit?
December 15th, 2005 at 12:40 pmOne man’s torture, is another man’s anonymous S&M sexual service.
December 15th, 2005 at 12:48 pmunbelievable… there has to be a fight over whether or not to ALLOW torture…? how the hell did we get to this point anyway…? there should have never been an issue in the first place… pathetic…
http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/
December 15th, 2005 at 12:48 pmGeorge W. Bush….two words.
Flip, flop.
A man of his word, until the polls drop.
-GSD
December 15th, 2005 at 12:49 pmBullsh*t. I won’t believe this for a second. “No changes” my a$$. There is NO WAY this Admin caved on this–it’s never caved on ANYTHING. There’s either loopholes we’ll never see, and/or a whole chunk of it is “classified” and contains all sorts of backdoor escapes for interrogators.
I’m WAY passed cynical to believe this. Unless I can see the whole doc, unaltered and in it’s entirety, I simply won’t believe its veracity.
December 15th, 2005 at 1:08 pmDidn’t I read that the DOD was changing the definition of torture and that the White House is agreeing to the McCain bill because the bill turns on outlawing anything not covered in the DOD’s definition of torture?
December 15th, 2005 at 1:09 pmExactamundo. But to the 30% of Americans still drinking the kool-aid it just sounds like Bush doing “The Right Thing”
December 15th, 2005 at 1:11 pmThe Dick ‘Dragon’ Cheney didn’t cave. He’s been out of comission due to complications during his lastest complete blood transfusion.
December 15th, 2005 at 1:14 pmIf this turns out to be true, I don’t care what happened behind the scenes…it’s a positive outcome. Now, will the secrecy, the Eastern European gulag, renditioning, et al. be stopped? If they pay lip service to this policy but go right on doing what they please with torture, it has no meaning. Congress needs to enforce this policy with relentless vigor.
December 15th, 2005 at 1:17 pm#9
He’s been out of comission due to complications during his lastest complete blood transfusion.
I thought he just sucks it straight out of the necks of his innocent victims…
December 15th, 2005 at 1:34 pm“Sure, we’ll accept the ban. It sounds good, and no one will ever know that we’re not enforcing it, heh-heh.
“Legislation is like the Constitution — it’s just a gawddamned piece of paper.”
December 15th, 2005 at 1:40 pm#2LwL,
December 15th, 2005 at 1:41 pmI saw Sessions on TV last night and I share your views on him — he is a POS turd defending crap.
Alamaba should be embarrassed.
they weren’t going to win on this one… I imagine they’ll just continue an “unofficial” program of torture, though…
December 15th, 2005 at 1:51 pmThey declared war without a Declaration of War… I doubt they’ll care about some silly anti-torture law either.
December 15th, 2005 at 1:55 pmYeah, they’ve agreed to the McCain Amendment because they’ve rewritten the Army field manual.
from today’s Progress Report: http://www.progressreport.org
TORTURE — BUSH ADMINISTRATION CHANGES ARMY FIELD MANUAL TO SKIRT TORTURE LEGISLATION: With Congress on the verge of passing the sweeping McCain Anti-Torture Amendment, the Bush administration has moved to get around the proposed rules should they become law. The McCain amendment would make the Army Field Manual on Intelligence Interrogation the standard for questioning subjects. That manual explicitly prohibits the use of “coercive interrogation techniques.” Realizing this, the Pentagon one-upped McCain and simply rewrote the manual. For the first time in thirteen years, the Pentagon approved “a 10-page classified addendum to a new Army field manual” that “would help teach [interrogators] how to walk right up to the line between legal and illegal interrogations.” “This is a stick in McCain’s eye,” one official said.”It goes right up to the edge.”
December 15th, 2005 at 2:03 pmread steve clemons washington note; hes skeptical.
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