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Lynne Cheney ‘Marshals Support’ For Iraq War at Elementary School

Lynne Cheney “was the latest Bush administration figure sent to marshal support for the United States’ Iraq policy,” the AP reported today.

Her audience? Fourth- and fifth-graders at Washington-area two elementary schools.

For her part, Cheney did allow some questions, a practice President Bush frequently resists:

When a student asked how the Iraqi constitution would benefit the country’s children, she said the change would be significant. It gives them the chance to grow up in…”a different society from the brutal one they used to live in.”

Unfortunately, that’s not the case. It may be a different society, but for many Iraqi children, it’s still brutal (more here):

Acute malnutrition among young children in Iraq has nearly doubled since the United States led an invasion of the country 20 months ago, according to surveys by the United Nations, aid agencies and the interim Iraqi government. [...]

The new figure translates to roughly 400,000 Iraqi children [under five] suffering from “wasting,” a condition characterized by chronic diarrhea and dangerous deficiencies of protein.

The surveys suggest the silent human cost being paid across a country convulsed by instability and mismanagement. While attacks by insurgents have grown more violent and more frequent, deteriorating basic services take lives that many Iraqis said they had expected to improve under American stewardship.

Iraq’s child malnutrition rate now roughly equals that of Burundi, a central African nation torn by more than a decade of war. It is far higher than rates in Uganda and Haiti.

Lynne Cheney should have given the kids a lesson in the consequences of failing to plan.



253 Responses to “Lynne Cheney ‘Marshals Support’ For Iraq War at Elementary School”

  1. Marie says:

    Isn’t that reaching a little far for an audience, Lynn?


  2. LwordLover says:

    Maybe she’ll show Mary Cheney how to skick up her finger.


  3. unbelievable says:

    What’s she doing – stealing their lunch money to help fund the Occupation?


  4. Dartanyon says:

    Why did the school permit this bitch access to their 4th and 5th graders to propagandize her husband’s war?

    If I were a parent of one of these little darlings, I’d file a lawsuit.
    .


  5. IraqVet says:

    Can’t…They’d probably take the parents and accuse them as terrorists and they’d never be heard from again!

    C’mon, a photo-op is a photo-op! She can’t address grown-ups (unless it is carefully scripted) and so they put her in a class of toddlers so they cannot ask the tough questions…

    This administration has no clue! The SCRIPT everything and unless it is rehearsed, then there is nothing to report!


  6. Ryan Neato says:

    How does the United Nations have the balls to survey how children are living in Iraq when their own “Oil for Food” program denied them of the food and aid? At least now they have hope for a better life now that they don’t live under a tyrant. I thought that liberals used to fight for human rights, I guess they would rather have their power back.


  7. Amy says:

    Maybe she is part of the DOD’s arsenal of military recruitment tools aimed at children…

    Babes in Warland
    http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/printer_090205C.shtml


  8. WORFEUS says:

    I was wondering how long it would take for them to begin forming the modern day version of the Hitler Youth.

    The Reich is coming along nicely, don’t you think?


  9. LwordLover says:

    Neato – Isn’t Casto a tyrant as well? Why haven’t we invaded & occupied Cuba? Oh that’s right, no oil.


  10. soupy says:

    I wonder if she got to the part where her hubby and Co. start WWIII and she ducks into her bunker forgetting all these kids.


  11. dano347 says:

    “I thought that liberals used to fight for human rights, I guess they would rather have their power back.”

    Comment by Ryan Neato — December 15, 2005 @

    Repbs never fight for human rights so you are just being a typical repub hypocrite.


  12. BushSucks says:

    And did the parents of these children consent to this?

    This is why my children won’t set foot in a public school for their education. I don’t want war mongers teaching my child anything


  13. Ryan Neato says:

    Castro is not harboring terrorists you idiot! When will the left realize or understand we did not attack for oil? You people are morons. Its a good thing you are not in charge.


  14. Ryan Neato says:

    I have come to the conclusion in my short time posting here that liberals are eternal pessimists and hate America. I don’t recall conservatives being so pessimistic during the Clinton years. Are you guys ever happy?


  15. Sharon Cox says:

    Hay Neato, Incase you are not aware the tyrant in charge here is the one who started the war there, He cares not about the children or the people in either country.


  16. BushSucks says:

    Are you guys ever happy?

    Comment by Ryan Neato

    Absolutely. It’s nice walking through life without the blinders on.


  17. unbelievable says:

    #9 We actually put Castro there. We had their democratically elected leader – Manuel Noriega assassinated (because he was outspoken againstthe U.S.) and established a dictatorship in Cuba. Yeah, the very same government bringing “Democracy” to Iraq…


  18. WORFEUS says:

    I know you did not attack for oil. You attacked for money.

    200 Billion dollars of it and climbing.

    Or did you think none of us noticed that the ONLY company to get the NO BID contract, a contract that no one else could bid on, just happened to be the company that the recent former CEO of just happens to be the VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?

    Did you really think that none of us noticed?


  19. unbelievable says:

    #12 I’m a liberal and I teach high school in the Public School System. Not all teachers are Bushevics. In fact, most are pretty liberal. Knowledge is the krypton of the Neocons, afer all.


  20. LwordLover says:

    Maybe Castro is not harboring, but he didn’t treeat his own people well either, poltical prioners and no freedom of speech, etc. Besides, whouldn’t the world be better off without Fidel?


  21. afterthought says:

    Oil, huh? Well the Iraq case is pretty complicated
    after all the BushCo. lies. Gets pretty hard to tell.
    I wonder why they only guarded the Oil Ministry?
    Must have been an address mistake. I am sure they
    wanted to guard the hospital, right?
    Does anyone think we would be much involved in
    the Persian Gulf if there were no oil anywhere
    in the area?
    Not saying oil isn’t important, but it WAS in the
    Iraq calculus somewhere.


  22. WORFEUS says:

    BTW, My comment #18 was for you Ryan Neato, your comment number 13.


  23. scratch says:

    Cheney looks like she is holding up the Satan “horns” sign to me. What an appropriate crimson blood colored blazer and black pointy “witch” shoes. Did she leave her pitchfork in ther corner? I’m surprised the kids didn’t run away screaming.


  24. Ryan Neato says:

    wwallace, How do you Like my Phoney Name?


  25. Andy in DE says:

    Lynne Cheney is speaking the truth. It is the other side, hell bent on losing, that seems to blur the facts. Sadam was a brutal dictator.

    If we do lose the war, the American left should be forced to live under Sadam since they seem to think pre-war Iraq was so much better than a post-Sadam one.


  26. MichDem says:

    Hey nerto (Ryan) we don’t hate america , we hate people like you . Your kind keeps getting us in messes like this and then don’t have the nards to admit your wrong , that’s what true sociopath does .


  27. WORFEUS says:

    It’s not the oil. It’s for money. It’s for neverending multi-billion dollar contracts for the Vice Presidents firm. He will be reaping the profits of this war for years to come once he is out of office.

    He probably figured it was the only way to make money, as his heart would not stand up for the lecture circuit.


  28. unbelievable says:

    #20

    And how exactly is George W. Bush treating his people so great??? He’s not, and it’s hypocritical to slam Castro without acknowledging that Bush is actually worse.


  29. Keith H. says:

    Caption:
    Lynne Cheney, wife of the infamous War Pig Dick Cheney, taking military recruitment tactics to a new low.


  30. WORFEUS says:

    Come on, no one in here is actually defending the wife of the Vice President going into a public school to preach right winged propaganda to elementary school kids?

    This is so Orwellian it’s ridiculous.


  31. Sharon Cox says:

    Yep!Neato, Please tell us all how much your president has done for the USA and the world.


  32. LwordLover says:

    WORFEUS, it’s satire, not an opinion. Castro is as much of a monster as Sadam – trust that. For as much as Bushie touts the “are we better off with him or without him” on Sadam, why didn’t he go after Castro the same way, if that’s the criteria – that’s the point. I guess if there was oil in cuba…


  33. mighty aphrodite says:

    I think she was discussing the voting process and democracy – something the History and Civics teachers fail to teach adequately. Wish we had the balance of Mrs. Cheney at our local schools. My neighbor came over and mentioned a “Social Sudies” writing prompt about sparing “Tookie” Crip Williams. She was livid. Needless to say, her little Repub thought the needle was too good for the murderer. I guess Tookie got taken.


  34. Daisy Bumble says:

    Did Lynne tell the one about the WP falling on the civilians like a gentle snow, or the one about how the Iraqi children have a new kind of fun playing in the depleted uranium contaminated soil. Great fun!,Lucky kids.


  35. MichDem says:

    See Ryan Nerdo nobody likes you and your daddy didn’t hold you enough .


  36. Sharon Cox says:

    Sorry, back on point. Who was it that said give me your children untill they are 5 years old and I will have them forever.? Cant remember but it was one of the Nazi bunch many years ago. If I had children in public school right now I would be pulling them out of that school and getting ready to sue for filling my kids head full of propaganda bull S***. Same for prayer and leanings to parties left right or center. More reich wing crap.


  37. Double A says:

    Neato – Well, while we are “helping” the worlds children, why aren’t we doing anything about North Korea? Do you know how many hundreds of thousands are starving (if not millions)? Or what about that governments official policy of taking all triplets from their parents and placing them in government run institutions? Oh, thats right, theres no oil there either. Plus they wouldn’t be as much as a push over as Iraq was. Do you know why we don’t attack North Korea? BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE WMD’S! That and the fact that they have large allies (China supports North Korea, and Russia has offered them support). Iraq was supposed to be two things, an oil grab and a photo O.P., and now that it has been proven that Iraq had no WMD’s, Bush tries to say that its a mercy mission. I’m sorry, I don’t buy it. Why not feed the worlds children without bombing them first? Just a thought.

    P.S. Bush and “Mercy” are two words that don’t go together well, and if you don’t agree, I have a quote that you might remember. “Please”, Bush says in a mocking tone adressing a woman on death row’s plea for clemency, “don’t kill me.”


  38. unbelievable says:

    #36

    I work in the public school system. I don’t know about all schools, but mine is in a pretty religious, conservative area of teh south and they don’t teach propaganda. Most of them are actually liberal and try to encourage the kids to consider many view points.

    But, the reality is that the kids are mostly influenced at home. Their parents are their biggest role models by a long shot. Especially the parent of the same gender. If parents raise their chidlren to be freethinkers during the first five years of life, before they enter the school system, then the school system is really quite impotent to change that (it’s cultural anthropology).


  39. Ryan Neato says:

    #37
    North Korea wouldn’t have nuclear weapons if it weren’t for Bubba and Albright. They had no clue on how to deal with a ruthless dictator so they tried to appease him. Look where that has got us. Idiots!


  40. unbelievable says:

    Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield have access to nuclear weapsons… And I think that scares me more.


  41. SoyLent Pet Food, Inc. says:

    Why do they allow these perverts to address our kids in the schools?

    # 18 Don’t forget Lynne Cheney’s book, Sisters -”a steamy bodice-ripper set in the 19th-century American West, featuring vivid tales of whorehouses, attempted rapes, a suspicious murder and several lesbian love affairs, of which Cheney writes approvingly.”

    http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4615911/

    Comment by Jack — October 17, 2005 @ 11:43 am


  42. buzzbike says:

    She’s just there to sell more of her crappy kids books. When Dick retires next year because of health reasons, they’re not going to be able to get by with his Halliburton parachute and his VP pension. She’s just doing what she can to help her man!


  43. Luke says:

    If Dick is “Darth”, then Lynne is “Yoda”


  44. MichDem says:

    Mabey it’s a good thing she spoke of Iraq this way , the truth would haunt those poor kids . Ten years from now noone will even admit they voted for these murderers .


  45. SoyLent Pet Food, Inc. says:

    I think she was discussing the voting process and democracy – something the History and Civics teachers fail to teach adequately. Wish we had the balance of Mrs. Cheney at our local schools.

    It’s too early for your “comedy” routine. It’s also not that funny, it’s rather sad to watch, like Michael Jackson, or a fat, middle-aged Elvis grabbing onto the bowl with his pants down around his ankles puking up his barbiturates and fried peanut butter and banana sandwhiches. In any case, your local schools are fine if you would remove your spawn from hell and “hoamskool” them.


  46. WORFEUS says:

    #37
    North Korea wouldn’t have nuclear weapons if it weren’t for Bubba and Albright. They had no clue on how to deal with a ruthless dictator so they tried to appease him. Look where that has got us. Idiots!

    Comment by Ryan Neato — December 15, 2005 @ 4:07 pm

    ________________________________________________________

    Yea? And what has your big bad tough guy done to North Korea.

    Remember, he thought Iraq had them, and he bombed and invaded.

    He KNOWS North Korea has them, and what has he done?

    He’s a puss. A paper tiger. He picks on the kid in the class who can’t fight back, and he ignores the ones who can fight back, and dare him to start something with him.


  47. 900 lb Gorilla says:

    Ah, She’s just working on building up more ‘Hitler Youth’ to swell the ranks of the mindless, brainwashed Republicans – so they can take over – and enact their corporatist, fascist agenda!


  48. SoyLent Pet Food, Inc. says:

    Contrast these two statements:

    I think she was discussing the voting process and democracy – something the History and Civics teachers fail to teach adequately.

    Comment by mighty aphrodite — December 15, 2005

    I work in the public school system. I don’t know about all schools…

    Comment by unbelievable — December 15, 2005

    Hoamskoolin” or even normal schooling won’t help those poor kids in the former case, not until they are old enough to get the hell out of that horrible home. I bet the boys will become criminals and the girls will go into porn. The latter case gives me hope for the south and America.


  49. Ryan Neato says:

    #44

    Liberals are so clueless. During the Reagan years you guys said the same kind of things and thought he was war-monger. Reagan had the correct vision of how to end the cold war and acheived it. President Bush has the same correct vision of how to acheive peace in the middle east and we are winning. History will look back on the Bush years and give credit where credit is due. Again, you guys are on the wrong side. Go Buckeyes!


  50. WORFEUS says:

    “but whoso shall offend one of these little ones,,, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea”

    Matthew 18:6


  51. 900 lb Gorilla says:

    Hey Ryan Neato –

    I’m a republican – and I say that YOU are mindless. You just repeat the spew you hear from your Daddy Limbaugh.

    You know, Clinton has been out of office for 5 years now, but you still want to continue to go back and blame Clinton for everything. It’s really getting old man. Clinton left us int he best shape we could have been – and your Boy Bush has run this country down the effing drain in 5 short years.

    Bush follows NONE of the principles of Republicanism – Less Spending, Less Government…

    Instead, all he’s does is consolidate his power and wealth at the expense of the entire country.

    You’re not a republican. You’re just a mindless liberal hater – that has to be told what to think by Hannity the hate spewer.


  52. propaganda says:

    More of the same PROPAGANDA!


  53. SoyLent Pet Food, Inc. says:

    Liberals are so clueless. During the Reagan years you guys said the same kind of things and thought he was war-monger.

    Reagan a warmonger? Don’t be silly! He was a giant pussy. One bomb in Lebanon (the largest loss of life for the American military in a single incident since WWII) and he ran with his tail between his legs… and attacked… Grenanda! Because Cuba would have kicked his ass, again!


  54. Kiki says:

    I think history is going to look back on the Bush years as the time when the forces of evil tried to end our democracy and criminals ruled. Let’s hope things change for the better soon.


  55. JIMBO says:

    Oh, and Neato,
    the second thing I want to say is…
    STOP STEALING RYAN’S NAME, TROLL!


  56. SoyLent Pet Food, Inc. says:

    The main difference between Bush and Reagan, Reagan actually played a cowboy on TV.


  57. I-RIGHT-I says:

    Isn’t that reaching a little far for an audience, Lynn?

    Comment by Marie

    Your homosexual and Marxist buddies start recruiting in kindergarten.

    GOOD ON YOU LYNN!!!! USA! USA! USA!


  58. sarcasm-impaired ASSOCIATION says:

    #50 WORFEUS .
    “but whoso shall offend one of these little ones,,, it were better for her that a millstone were hanged about her neck, and that She were drowned in the depth of the sea”

    Matthew 18:6


  59. I-RIGHT-I says:

    And did the parents of these children consent to this?

    This is why my children won’t set foot in a public school for their education. I don’t want war mongers teaching my child anything

    Comment by BushSucks

    That’s a good one. Really.


  60. MichDem says:

    Nerdo you’re way too easy , how do we look back at the Nixon era , same as we will the Bush era , with shame . By the way I do hope the Buckeyes have better luck with ND than they did with their leadership ( ciongate)


  61. Dartanyon says:

    Beware the Cheney women; whether it’s Lynne or Mary.
    .


  62. SoyLent Pet Food, Inc. says:

    Your homosexual and Marxist buddies start recruiting in kindergarten.

    GOOD ON YOU LYNN!!!! USA! USA! USA!

    Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 15, 2005

    Your Sapphic and capitalist buddies (Lynne Cheney) starts recruiting in elementary school.

    The dolt will have to look up Sapphic.


  63. I-RIGHT-I says:

    And how exactly is George W. Bush treating his people so great??? He’s not, and it’s hypocritical to slam Castro without acknowledging that Bush is actually worse.

    Comment by unbelievable

    Another good one. Wow.


  64. Dodgeball says:

    Another former republican here. The party got yanked out from underneath us by 1. the religious zealots and 2. the plutocrats. There’s nothing conservative about those now calling themselves “conservative”. All they are is greedy, power-hungry crooks who abscond with taxpayer money and then hide behind the flag.

    I no longer belong to any political party.


  65. I-RIGHT-I says:

    The dolt will have to look up Sapphic.

    Comment by SoyLent Pet Food, Inc.

    Good boys don’t need to know what that means.


  66. SoyLent Pet Food, Inc. says:

    Here ya go, IRI. I hear this site is quite popular with the Cheney household. Dick, too. I know you will find it… titillating.


  67. cynical ex-hippie says:

    Liberals are so clueless. During the Reagan years you guys said the same kind of things and thought he was war-monger.

    We didn’t call him a warmonger. We called him a traitor for selling arms to Islamofascists in Iran. Remember?


  68. SoyLent Pet Food, Inc. says:

    Good boys don’t need to know what that means.

    Comment by I-RIGHT-I

    Right! Don’t study the ancient Greeks!


  69. JIMBO says:

    IRI- Is there a point that you’re trying to make. or are you just trying to find a creative way to answer to the truth that WE are putting out on that Bitch who’s trying to corrupt children.


  70. cynical ex-hippie says:

    In related news, several students who arrived in cars sporting anti-Bush bumper stickers were removed by men purporting to be secret service agents. The government has denied all knowledge of the incident. The children were last seen on a plane bound for Eastern Europe. That’s New Europe, not Old Europe where torture is banned.


  71. unbelievable says:

    #63 IRI

    I knew you’d come to see it my way eventually :)


  72. SoyLent Pet Food, Inc. says:

  73. 900 lb Gorilla says:

    Dodgeball!

    Glad to know I’m not alone. Even my Father (a lifelong Republican) can’t take it anymore. I think it was that HUGE effing Deficit that Chimpie gave his grandchildren that pissed him off the most… Or was it the blatent propaganda speech on Veterans day? …or was it all those lies about the war? well, anyway. Glad to know there are others like me – although, technically I’m still registered as a Repub (ugh) – at least they can’t steal MY vote! Hell, they’ll probably count it twice!


  74. I-RIGHT-I says:

    I no longer belong to any political party.

    Comment by Dodgeball

    I never did. But I sure as hell am not going to be the least little bit responsible for putting the Filthy Left into office. One more thing, the Religious Right in this country is the only thing standing between the Filthy Left, and your money and your children and your freedom and what’s left of this republic. If you can think of any other group capable of getting us back on a conservative track you let me know and don’t say Libertarians. They are simply greedy left wingers.


  75. SoyLent Pet Food, Inc. says:

    IRI- Is there a point that you’re trying to make. or are you just trying to find a creative way to answer to the truth that WE are putting out on that Bitch who’s trying to corrupt children.

    Comment by JIMBO — December 15, 2005

    Actually, I think he is being rather funny today.


  76. SoyLent Pet Food, Inc. says:

    I no longer belong to any political party.

    Comment by Dodgeball

    I never did. But I sure as hell am not going to be the least little bit responsible for putting the Filthy Left into office. One more thing, the Religious Right in this country is the only thing standing between the Filthy Left, and your money and your children and your freedom and what’s left of this republic. If you can think of any other group capable of getting us back on a conservative track you let me know and don’t say Libertarians. They are simply greedy left wingers.

    Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 15, 2005

    You have to admit it, that’s hilarious!


  77. I-RIGHT-I says:

    Dodgeball!

    Glad to know I’m not alone. Even my Father (a lifelong Republican) can’t take it anymore.
    Comment by 900 lb Gorilla

    That doesn’t mean he’s going to vote for a Democrat though. Being pissed is one thing, blowing off your own head because of it is something else entirely. Unless of course he’s turned senile. The Donks go after that Senile Citizen vote big time.


  78. unbelievable says:

    IRI must’ve gotten a new blow up doll today… but he’s still not funny.


  79. JIMBO says:

    #75

    YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWNNNNNNNNNN!

    Isn’t the religious right also corrupting our children with
    the same kind of dialogue that got people like Joan of Arc killed? And that dialogue is outdated. Children can’t be fooled, they aren’t stupid. Sooner or later, the truth
    will be revealed to them that the religious right is a cult-like race that practices fascism by way of brainwashing.


  80. SoyLent Pet Food, Inc. says:

    IRI is a true John Bircher. He votes the Constitution party. Peroutka! 1808!


  81. 900 lb Gorilla says:

    Old Lynn Cheney just HAD to find someone who would believe the shit coming out of here wicked mouth!


  82. I-RIGHT-I says:

    Isn’t the religious right also corrupting our children with
    the same kind of dialogue that got people like Joan of Arc killed?

    Comment by JIMBO

    Who are you trying to kid? You don’t have the slightest idea of why Joan of Arc was put to death.


  83. SoyLent Pet Food, Inc. says:

    IRI must’ve gotten a new blow up doll today… but he’s still not funny.

    Comment by unbelievable — December 15, 2005

    Funny in the sense that he is a parody of himself. It takes great talent for someone who doesn’t speak with that voice genuinely to do it as parody and satire and not go to far over the top. If he was actually poking fun at the personna he was portraying, I would call it near genius. Sadly, he is in earnest and being sincere. But it doesn’t lessen the overall comedy value inherent in his remarks.


  84. MichDem says:

    Soylent this guy never ceases to crack me up , he’s probably gritting his teeth and pulling his hair out right now .


  85. unbelievable says:

    #82

    Neither do you IRI, though give us a laugh and tell us your grand theory.

    Joan of Arc was a schizophrenic who was hearing voices (like you).


  86. SoyLent Pet Food, Inc. says:

    Hey IRI,

    Will Peroutka run again? How far? Out of the country this time?


  87. SoyLent Pet Food, Inc. says:

    Joan of Arc was a lesbian!


  88. I-RIGHT-I says:

    Hey IRI,

    Will Peroutka run again? How far? Out of the country this time?

    Comment by SoyLent Pet Food, Inc

    OK, you got me. I did have to look that one up.


  89. 900 lb Gorilla says:

    Lynn Cheney is a sick twisted psycho Bitch.


  90. unbelievable says:

    #83

    I was typing my comment while yours was posting first. I didn’t read yours before posting mine. Mine was not in reference to yours, but in additon to #75.

    I agree with you that he is rather amusing however…


  91. WORFEUS says:

    “the Religious Right in this country is the only thing standing between the Filthy Left, and your money and your children and your freedom”

    Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 15, 2005

    I think you mean the Religious Right in this country is the only thing taking away your money, children and freedom.

    That’s what he meant, right?


  92. unbelievable says:

  93. MichDem says:

    Name calling rather than sticking to the issue is the same as kids on a school bus making faces , no damage done , just makes me laugh .


  94. SoyLent Pet Food, Inc. says:

    Well you should. You may have to choose between McCain and Peroutka in 2008.


  95. 900 lb Gorilla says:

    Hey IRI –

    I suspect you could be a prime candidate for Operation Yellow Elephant! …unless of course you’re a coward son of a bitch like your heroes in the Whitehouse/Pentagon, etc…


  96. cats are flyfishn says:

    She should also teach them about honesty and that war is never a good idea.


  97. SoyLent Pet Food, Inc. says:

    Hahaha! One by one they are going down! Another Conservative crook…

    CHICAGO Dec 15, 2005 — Former newspaper mogul Conrad Black was indicted by federal prosecutors Thursday on additional charges that include racketeering and obstruction of justice.

    The new charges came two weeks after Black pleaded not guilty to fraud charges in connection with the alleged looting of more than $80 million from the Hollinger International Inc. newspaper empire he once controlled.

    The charges were brought in an indictment returned Thursday by a federal grand jury in Chicago and announced by U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald.


  98. I-RIGHT-I says:

    Hey IRI –

    I suspect you could be a prime candidate for Operation Yellow Elephant! …unless of course you’re a coward son of a bitch like your heroes in the Whitehouse/Pentagon, etc…

    Comment by 900 lb Gorilla

    I don’t have any heroes in the White House or the Pentagon. All my heroes are in the Middle East and elsewhere around the globe kicking the shit out of your heroes.


  99. WORFEUS says:

    Don’t even presume to think you know who my hero’s are.

    But saying in your own slimy way that liberals worship the enemy is a dirty, lie.

    I hate them as much as I hate you.


  100. progressive and proud says:

    #11 I find it odd that you would think of liberals as championing the human rights cause, YET, you choose to not be a part of that. At least you know who you are.


  101. WORFEUS says:

    Here Genius, let me give you a fool proof solution.

    All you tough talkers, who love this war, go fight it.

    Everyone who doesn’t, gets to come home.

    And when you guys are done, you can come back home.

    Of course, I would’nt be surprised if the doors locked.


  102. hardass says:

    The Evil doers know no bounds . Fascists !


  103. progressive and proud says:

    #6 Kind of like: how do the republicans have the balls to call anyone a crook. Ah, I see.


  104. I-RIGHT-I says:

    Hahaha! One by one they are going down! Another Conservative crook…

    Comment by SoyLent Pet Food, Inc

    Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove is found in the woods off the George Washington Parkway with a bullet in his head. President Bush’s statement on the matter is short, and fairly terse. “I don’t think we’ll ever know why Karl committed suicide.” The Washington press lets the matter drop after Rove’s funeral. His body, then office, are checked for a suicide note, but none is found. But, a week later a White House aide sees it right there on Rove’s desk .. Holy Crap, everyone just missed seeing it. A note that three independent handwriting experts would later call a forgery. The Washington press corps remains uninterested.

    Now that’s a story only a Republican would believe…right?
    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/FOSTER_COVERUP/foster.html


  105. progressive and proud says:

    #11 – apologies, I, of course was referring to the name theif. Man, you republicans will steal anything not nailed down.


  106. SoyLent Pet Food, Inc. says:

    I don’t have any heroes in the White House or the Pentagon. All my heroes are in the Middle East and elsewhere around the globe kicking the shit out of your heroes.

    Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 15, 2005

    Do you still play with your G.I. Joe posable action figures? Do you think Santa will bring you an X-Box 360 for Christmas?


  107. Pete Bogs says:

    talk about your captive audience!


  108. WORFEUS says:

    Oh, Vince Foster? Now theres a weighty current affair.


  109. WORFEUS says:

    Thats the problem with the right. They are so busy trying to find meaningful things to blame on Clinton, that they ignore the ever widening mess they are making right now.

    Ok,FINE! You’re NOT guilty of anything! Now clean this mess up and well talk about it later!

    :|


  110. WORFEUS says:

    When your father gets home :|


  111. Carl Levin for President says:

    Good systems don’t need heroes.


  112. I-RIGHT-I says:

    Good systems don’t need heroes.

    Comment by Carl Levin for President

    There’s no such a thing as a good sytem without them.


  113. WORFEUS says:

    You’re my hero I-RIGHT-I, you’re my hero :D


  114. WORFEUS says:

    Hero sandwich that is, cause I eat you for lunch every day :P


  115. I-RIGHT-I says:

    Oh, Vince Foster? Now theres a weighty current affair.

    Comment by WORFEUS

    An unsolved murder never goes off the books and therefore is always current. Add a little White House hanky panky and you’ve got yourself a keeper.


  116. WORFEUS says:

    Yea, will when you dig something up, let me know.

    In the meantime I have a suggestion.

    How about…..focusing…….ON THE MESS YOU’VE MADE OF EVERYTHING BEFORE TRYING TO SOLVE A POSSIBLE MURDER THAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST CENTURY???


  117. I-RIGHT-I says:

    Ok,FINE! You’re NOT guilty of anything! Now clean this mess up and well talk about it later!

    :|

    Comment by WORFEUS

    What mess? Everything is going according to the plan we decided not to tell you about, which is also according to the plan.


  118. WORFEUS says:

    Just a thought :|


  119. WORFEUS says:

    What mess?

    Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 15, 2005 @ 5:32 pm

    LoL, you’re too funny I-DUMBASS-I,,,stoppppp…you’re killin me….. stoooopppppppp :P


  120. WORFEUS says:

    No I really mean it, you’re really killing me,,stop it….:|


  121. I-RIGHT-I says:

    No I really mean it, you’re really killing me,,stop it….:|

    Comment by WORFEUS

    Ok, good. Here’s more. Something that didn’t go according to plan.

    CNSNews.com) – Statistics released by the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals suggest that fewer than half of the victims of Hurricane Katrina were black, and that whites died at the highest rate of all races in New Orleans.

    Liberals in the aftermath of the storm were quick to allege that the Bush administration delayed its response to the catastrophe because most of the victims were black.

    Damu Smith, founder of the National Black Environmental Justice Network, in September said that the federal government “ignored us, they forgot about us … because we look like we look.”

    Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan in October said that the Federal Emergency Management Agency wasn’t fit to help the storm’s victims because “there are not enough blacks high up in FEMA” and added that, “certainly the Red Cross is the same.”

    http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\200512\NAT20051214b.html


  122. I-RIGHT-I says:

    “Damu Smith, founder of the National Black Environmental Justice Network, in September said that the federal government “ignored us, they forgot about us … because we look like we look.”

    Damu? Who the hell names their kid Damu?


  123. WORFEUS says:

    I-AMWAYOFFTRACK-I,

    you are way off track.

    This is about Lynn Cheney brainwashing our kids.

    I told, you, break em in half…


  124. WORFEUS says:

    Damu? Who the hell names their kid Damu?

    Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 15, 2005 @ 5:40 pm

    People other than prejudiced nazi bigots, that’s who.


  125. Spudge_Boy says:

    #121

    Yeah, that’s it. All the news channels were using special filters on their cameras to make all of the white people look black. That also used CGI to add more black people to the rooftops to make it seem like the problem was bigger than it was.

    The truth is that there were only 14 people affected by Katrina and 12 of them were white.

    /sarcasm=off


  126. A REAL AMERICAN says:

    I’d be curious to see where this hack website gets their data on the malnutrition rate. My bet is the U.N. Now THERE is a credible source!


  127. Spudge_Boy says:

    I’d be curious to see where this hack website gets their data on the malnutrition rate. My bet is the U.N. Now THERE is a credible source!

    Question:

    Why are you posting at a hack site? Are you a hack? Do you always post at sites that you don’t feel a relevant? Do you also go to UFO forums and post there? Do you go to sites about witchcraft and post there? Why do you feel the need to post at a site that is in your eyes not worth the electrons it is printed on?

    I guess that was more than one question.

    Also, if you spent two seconds reading the links, you would see that there was more involvment than the UN.

    After the rate of acute malnutrition among children younger than 5 steadily declined to 4 percent two years ago, it shot up to 7.7 percent this year, according to a study conducted by Iraq’s Health Ministry in cooperation with Norway’s Institute for Applied International Studies and the U.N. Development Program. The new figure translates to roughly 400,000 Iraqi children suffering from “wasting,” a condition characterized by chronic diarrhea and dangerous deficiencies of protein.

    One of them being:

    Iraq’s Health Ministry

    You know, people that are in Iraq and see what is going on first hand.

    But no, you would rather spout BS.


  128. liberalMinded says:

    So they can’t afford chairs in DC Schools? WTF — our schools are seriously underfunded!


  129. oneveteran'svoice says:

    Wow, this seems like a pretty lame photo op. I guess the administration is having a pretty hard time selling the war to anyone but grade-schoolers. Now that the Iraqis have voted, let’s give them their country back.


  130. A Real Homosexual says:

    I’d be curious to see where this hack website gets their data on the malnutrition rate. My bet is the U.N. Now THERE is a credible source!


  131. mighty aphrodite says:

    Nico – just finish reading the article you link in line one and two of this report. Just be thankful you don’t work for me – your pink slip would be in your hand and you would be wending your way to the unemployment office. How you came up with your opening paragraph is either a demonstration of dyslexia or distortion – but I’m sure your employers are delighted with your insight – because of the “ends justifies the means” ideology spurring the lot of you on.


  132. A Real Homosexual says:

  133. A Real Pimp says:

    Nico – just finish reading the article you link in line one and two of this report. Just be thankful you don’t work for me – I run a stable of young girls here in Alabama.


  134. Gregor Samsa says:

    How you came up with your opening paragraph is either a demonstration of dyslexia or distortion – but I’m sure your employers are delighted with your insight – because of the “ends justifies the means” ideology spurring the lot of you on.
    Comment by mighty aphrodite — December 15, 2005 @ 6:27 pm

    Mighty Aphrodite, you have just demonstrated your total inability to read and copmrehend what’s put in front of you.

    From the AP article. paragraphs 2 & 3:

    “Two hundred and seventeen years ago, we held our first vote under our Constitution,” Vice President Dick Cheney’s wife said. “We started then on the path the Iraqis are walking now.”

    Mrs. Cheney was the latest Bush administration figure sent to marshal support for the United States’ Iraq policy. She was speaking to elementary school children at two Washington-area military installations – the Marine Corps Base in Quantico, Va., and at Fort Belvoir, Va.


  135. JIMBO says:

    #99
    IRI
    Let me guess, your heroes are the ones who have killed over 2100 of OUR heroes. Boy you must really hate America.


  136. Jaime Serrano says:

    I live in the DC area, and my 10-year-old goes to school here. If I ever heard that that horrible harpy called Lynne Cheney is about to indoctrinate my kid and her classmates, I would fire a stern letter to our principle and make sure my kid is not exposed to such filth. But then again, I very seriously doubt that that woman would ever come close to our deep purple neighborhood. Where do they manufacture these monsters anyway?


  137. I-RIGHT-I says:

    IRI
    Let me guess, your heroes are the ones who have killed over 2100 of OUR heroes. Boy you must really hate America.

    Comment by JIMBO

    You don’t have any American heroes. If you did you wouldn’t be on this site and giving me crap.


  138. A Real Pimp says:

    Half and Half $150

    Round The World $300

    Mighty Aphrodite’s Barnyard Special 5.95

    Comes with all you can eat buffet!


  139. I-RIGHT-I says:

    IRI,

    Only a tin foil hat wearing wingnut thinks the Clinton’s killed Vince Foster.

    Comment by A Real Homosexual

    Hey, how ’bout that new Homo on the Range movie, BrokeBuns or something like that? How many times have you seen it?


  140. A Real Homosexual says:

    All of my heroes have been real gay cowboys!


    The gay cowboy movie ruined my marriage!

    Meghan Thompson says:

    “I saw this movie (Brokeback Mountain) with my husband earlier this week at the Toronto Film Festival. I didn’t think it was good at all. It turns out that this movie is nothing but a perverted gay love story. I didn’t know that before we saw it. My husband, on the other hand, couldn’t stop raving about how great it was and how it really opened his eyes. Last night, he told me he wanted a divorce, and he was moving in with his best friend Erik. I think this movie turned him gay! I am so upset. He has never indicated anything about being gay, or behaved in a gay manner. When he found out that a friend of ours from church might be gay, we stopped talking with him. That’s how straight he was!!! We had a great sex life as well. I know this movie changed him. When is Hollywood going to stop peddling this kind of corrupting perverted garbage? I’m sure this will win an oscar or something and now I have to start my life over because it made my husband turn gay.”


  141. Spudge_Boy says:

    Hey, how ’bout that new Homo on the Range movie, BrokeBuns or something like that? How many times have you seen it?

    Dude, seriously, what is it with you and gays? Why do you always bring up homosexuality. It is really lame.



  142. Tracy says:

    We bombed and invaded Yugoslavia and removed Milosivic from power…that was noble because Clinton did it…but removing Sadamm wasn’t justified. What total BS!


  143. JIMBO says:

    IRI-
    Martin Luther King
    Rosa Parks
    Richard Pryor
    Alex Haley
    Walter Becker
    Donald Fagen
    George Carlin
    Jon Stewart
    Amy Goodman
    Stephen Colbert
    Keith Olbermann
    Tony Kornheiser
    Bill Hicks
    Lewis Black
    John Murtha
    Harry Reid
    Muhammad Ali

    and…..
    2100 plus American Soldiers killed.
    Plus 100,000 + others who are still alive in Iraq, but would prefer to be back home with us.
    to be home with us


  144. JIMBO says:

    Those, are my heroes.


  145. A Real Dumb Republixcan says:

    We bombed and invaded Yugoslavia and removed Milosivic from power…that was noble because Clinton did it…but removing Sadamm wasn’t justified. What total BS!

    Comment by Tracy — December 15, 2005

    What do you mean we, white man? NATO did that, and it wasn’t Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia had already fallen apart and civil war was going on. Now there is civil war going on in Iraq when there wasn’t one before. Are all trolls this stupid? Duh! Dumb question!


  146. Jaime Serrano says:

    Hey, Jimbo, I thought you had enlisted in the Marines. I thought you’d be in Baghdad bagging terrorists by now. Are you writing from Fallujah on your break from blasting the hell out of a country that had done nothing to us, or are you at your computer stuffing your mouth with Cheetos and having your 245th Dr. Pepper tonight? There is a Yellow Elephant enlisting office near you if you still are in the States. Check it out, you yellow-belly chickenhawk!


  147. Ryan Neat says:

    MightyTranny, we’ve already demostrated that you are neither a woman, nor a lawyer. Why are you here spreading more homophobia and ignorance? Clearly you and MizzWrong have enough of these psychotic behaviors for everyone in the country…


  148. Ryan Neat says:

    homophobic = closet gay = IRI


  149. JIMBO says:

    #148

    Jaime, what gives? I’m on your side. I agreed with what you said in post 137. I was responding to IRIGHTI’s garbage
    claiming that I don’t know American heroes.

    Read my previous posts, please.


  150. Jaime Serrano says:

    Sorry, man, I just saw light and shot. Next time I have a few hours, I will check the posts from the top.


  151. mighty aphrodite says:

    Jimbob – Of course Jaime is on your side – she was just tooooo dyslexic to get it. (Sort of like her idea that “harpy” Cheney could possibly be in a school setting indoctrinating Jaime’s daughter.) Reading and understanding are two different things.

    P.S. Is RyANNe’s schizophrenic other half posting as “A REal Pimp”? Thought you might know.


  152. cynical ex-hippie says:

    We bombed and invaded Yugoslavia and removed Milosivic from power…that was noble because Clinton did it…but removing Sadamm wasn’t justified. What total BS!

    Comment by Tracy — December 15, 2005

    And yet neocons give no credit to Clinton even though he successfully did exactly what they say they are trying to do now. And they criticized him for it. Hypocrisy defined?

    Believe me, if Bush had successfully put a stop to violence in Iraq he would have much more support for his war.


  153. Ryan Neat says:

    MightyTranny,

    You or one of your ‘unoriginal’ and ‘uncreative’ whackos is posting as/around me. You guys never have your own ideas, so it’s no surprise you can’t come up with original names.

    Speaking of original, why are you still posting? You’ve already been defrocked and shown to be neither a lawyer nor a woman. Get they away republican lying troll!


  154. JIMBO says:

    M.A.

    You may not have understood and read anything that makes sense. We Democrats are angry and want to kick some
    Repuklican asses. Jaime and I want to do the same. And I already forgive Jaime. It’s just that trolls like you try to undermine us.


  155. Spudge_Boy says:

    We bombed and invaded Yugoslavia and removed Milosivic from power…that was noble because Clinton did it…but removing Sadamm wasn’t justified. What total BS!

    Comment by Tracy — December 15, 2005 @ 6:49 pm

    Clinton had International support for getting rid of Milosivic. Bush lied to the UN. Well, he had Powell lie to the UN (which Powell later resigned over).


  156. Susan says:

    Lynn Cheney is a pedophile.

    Oops, no she’s not, she gave birth to a lesbian. That makes her daughter a pedophile.


  157. Carl Levin for President says:

    Louis Farrakhan in October said…

    Times are hard when you’re bringing up this nutjob to defend your position.


  158. I-RIGHT-I says:

    148

    Jaime, what gives? I’m on your side. I agreed with what you said in post 137. I was responding to IRIGHTI’s garbage
    claiming that I don’t know American heroes.

    Read my previous posts, please.

    Comment by JIMBO

    Translation: “Don’t be mad at me! I’m an America hater just like you”.


  159. I-RIGHT-I says:

    My kinda man….who doesn’t think much of Black History Month that seems to come around every thirty days or so.

    Morgan Freeman Blasts Black History Month

    You’re going to relegate my history to a month?” the 68-year-old actor says in an interview on CBS’ “60 Minutes” to air Sunday (7 p.m. EST). “I don’t want a black history month. Black history is American history.”
    Freeman notes there is no “white history month,” and says the only way to get rid of racism is to “stop talking about it.”
    The actor says he believes the labels “black” and “white” are an obstacle to beating racism.

    “I am going to stop calling you a white man and I’m going to ask you to stop calling me a black man,” Freeman says.
    http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/15/172602.shtml


  160. Keith H. says:

    Apparently, in the Washington-area, being married to a War Criminal qualifies you to lecture grade school students.


  161. Busted says:

    Should the author of a soft-porn “novel” really be allowed to address 4th and 5th grade students? That just sounds like bad policy to me. Would we allow Ron Jeremy in a classroom? I think not.

    Go here to see the fine writing of Ms. Cheney:
    http://www.poormojo.org/pmjadaily/archives/001986.html


  162. Susan says:

    #163 I was right the first time (see comment #157 Lynn Cheney is a pedophile.)

    I forgot Lynne was a porn pusher.


  163. Spudge_Boy says:

    Busted, Susan,

    You can read some of Lynne Cheney’s porno here:

    http://www.whitehouse.org/administration/sisters.asp


  164. mighty aphrodite says:

    #156- “You may not have understood and read anything that makes sense. We Democrats are angry and want to kick some
    Repuklican asses. Jaime and I want to do the same. And I already forgive Jaime. It’s just that trolls like you try to undermine us.” — JimBOB
    ******-And JimBob, we’re succeeding – thanks to intellectual Giants such as yourself!! Keep up the good work!!


  165. Ryan Neat says:

    “How dare you try and put American Patriots and our fallen heroes on the side of the Filthy Left!
    Comment by I-RIGHT-I ”

    Heroes are always on the left, the right brings the Osama, Saddam, Hitler, McVeigh, and radical Terrorism…

    You’re such a wanker and a sad little hypocrite. You know because you divorced, you aren’t going to heaven – jesus said so…


  166. Ryan Neat says:

    MightyTranny,

    You’ve already been debunked as a fake and a fraud. Stop posting on this site, you just look even more ridiculous than before you were fully and 100% discredited.

    And, by the way. Are you proud of your family for ‘cutting and running’ from europe when they were needed? Didn’t they leave millions behind to die, while they ran off to send you to private school?


  167. Ryan Neat says:

    MizzWrong uses the classic technique of a rascist, which is to say something REALLY racist, and claim that anyone who disagrees with it must be a racist. What a fool.

    MizzWrong, you realize you’re not going to heaven because of your divorce don’t you? jesus said so…


  168. wwallace says:

    Why did Nico post an article link from over a year ago on the day of the successful Iraqi elections?

    Because he’s on the other side, that’s why.


  169. Hello Dolly says:

    Who let this crazy woman in a school with children? Do you think the parents were told about this beforehand? If my kid attended that school, you can bet I would not allow them to attend class that day, and I would be outside protesting her propaganda visit.


  170. Ryan Neat says:

    Anyone else notice that MightyHermaphrodite and MizzWrong post or don’t post on similar days? Sounds like that multiple personality disorder has really taken over the little whacko behind those personalities…


  171. Ryan Neat says:

    Why did wwallace post lies about iraq?

    Because he’s on the other side, that’s why.


  172. wwallace says:

    Watch Ryan again fail to back his claims. :()


  173. WaltTheMan says:

    I pity poor Lynne Cheney. Perhaps she is posturing herself for the inheiritance. She looks a bit more intelligent than her utterances. Dickie boy makes Howard Stern look like a priest.


  174. Wimpy Amphrodimple says:

    I have a question for you trolls. One you will never answer because of your innate cowardice. Who hated America more during the civil war, the South or the North?


  175. Wimpy Amphrodimple says:

    Who hated Germany more, the members of the plot to kill Hitler, like Gen Ludwig Beck and Oberst Claus Schenk, Count von Stauffenberg, or Hitler himself?


  176. U Wrong U says:

    Who hated Russia more, Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn or Nikita Kruschev?


  177. U Wrong U says:

    Who hated Cuba more, Fidel Castro or the Cubans who tried to invade Cuba during the Bay of Pigs?


  178. U Wrong U says:

    Who hates America more, people who think Bush is the worst president ever (about 65%)or the 35% who think he’s passable? Or do you have to love him and sniff, kiss and lick his ass like you trolls do to consider yourselves “special”?


  179. karl Rove says:

    The WWE, those guys who wear tights and like to grab each other and sniff sweaty man armpits and “wrestle” have just come back from Iraq. They have defeated the terrorists using sweaty jockstraps to sling rocks at them! I was all atitter! God Bless America and Hulk Hogan!


  180. Wimpy Apfrodimple says:

    Those are real men!


  181. George Washington says:

    I hate George Bush and what he has done to MY country, America.


  182. Thomas jefferson says:

    I really hate George Bush and what he has done to MY country, America.


  183. George Washington says:

    I hate George Bush and what he has done to MY country, America, even more than that!


  184. Dwight D. Eisenhower says:

    I hate Bush, too. I never liked Nixon or Reagan, either.


  185. Joefriday says:

    This will get you..just saw bumber sticker “Robertson/Falwell in 2008″ I live in Texas..go fiqure.


  186. Cicero says:

    Who loved Rome more, Julius Gaius Caesar or his one time friends and supporters in the Roman senate who assassinated him?


  187. Bill Clinton says:

    This will get you..just saw bumber sticker “Robertson/Falwell in 2008″ I live in Texas..go fiqure.

    Comment by Joefriday

    That’s a great ticket! That would put Hillary in the WH for sure! Shucks! That would put Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez in the WH.


  188. JIMBO says:

    IRI- Are your balls really that small or are you too stupid to think intelligently in terms of what defines a hero? Knowing you, I’ll say both.

    A hero is someone who takes chances against convention and
    brings an advantage that helps those who deserve it the most. A hero can also be someone who sticks a finger at the establishment (IRI, Mity Aphfrodunce, Bush, (Dickless Lon Cheney)O’Lielly, etc.) and expresses a more unique point of view based on support from the Constitution as well as his or her clear perspective.

    M.A. Thanks for recognizing me as an intellectual giant. Too bad you aren’t succeeding politically.

    IRI- Where’s your KKK robe?


  189. tomz says:

    Get ready kiddies… in 10 more years, you’ll have to DIE FOR LIES too – to make ME richer…oh and My hubby too!


  190. tomz says:

    W. Wallace gets paid by the RNC. He also has ties to the AFA.


  191. SKdeA says:

    Gosh, I never thought I would miss NED… life was so simple then…


  192. NED says:

    NED is still here. These are the same three guys who started out here all those months ago with different names. They come here because no one goes to their lame websites that they used to spam all over the place. When people did go and told them what they really thought, they shut them sites down in abject horror and fear for their lives.


  193. George W. Bush Hero of the People says:

    We need to start the indoctrination when they’re young.


  194. Ha! says:

    Scientists Find A DNA Change That Accounts For White Skin

    It’s a mutation but they will say it’s divine intervention or intelligent design.

    Slap my hand, Black Soul Man

    Two Wild and Crazy guys!


  195. AvengingAngel says:

    Interesting that Lynne Cheney should discuss with these children the symbolism of the index finger, given its uses in her 1981 book “Sisters.”


  196. I-RIGHT-I says:

    Scientists Find A DNA Change That Accounts For White Skin

    It’s a mutation but they will say it’s divine intervention or intelligent design.

    Slap my hand, Black Soul Man

    Two Wild and Crazy guys!

    Comment by Ha!

    Cool. Maybe next they’ll find the gene that makes people with white skin measurably smarter on average than dark skinned people. Probably just another mutation.


  197. WaltTheMan says:

    #201,
    That “gene” is called discrimination.


  198. I-RIGHT-I says:

    A hero is someone who takes chances against convention and
    brings an advantage that helps those who deserve it the most. A hero can also be someone who sticks a finger at the establishment (IRI, Mity Aphfrodunce, Bush, (Dickless Lon Cheney)O’Lielly, etc.) and expresses a more unique point of view based on support from the Constitution as well as his or her clear perspective.
    Comment by JIMBO

    Yer an idiot. Here’s your kind of hero then isn’t it?

    ‘WE PLAYED DILDO GOLF, WE PLAYED WHEEL OF SEX, WE ARE THE LAST OF A DYING BREED. THIS IS A BIG MOMENT. WE BROKE EVERY RULE KNOWN TO RADIO AND MANKIND. THE GOVERNMENT SAYS CLEAN UP YOUR ACT, WE SAY NEVER.’

    ~ Howard Stern


  199. big papa says:

    Castro is not harboring terrorists you idiot! When will the left realize or understand we did not attack for oil? You people are morons. Its a good thing you are not in charge.

    Comment by Ryan Neato — December 15, 2005

    Ryan Freako # 13,

    Take 2 doses of TRUTH serum, and call us in the morning.


  200. big papa says:

    Here’s a tidbit for all you red state Bushites that you might find interesting. I was summarily banned (without explanation)from the redstate.org site for posting contrarian views to the posts on that site. I violated no posting rules, and in fact offered some very civil and (I’d say) sanguine points and remarks.

    My point is this, right wing red state Bush worshipping inbreds are welcomed with open arms (with some mild criticisms of their contrarian views) on Progressive sites. They are seldom banned and certainly NOT for presenting their points of view within the posting rules, yet the reverse is not true. Bushites fear TRUTH on their “group think” sites. They are afraid that a ray of sunshine might ruin their mushroom crops!

    hmmmm


  201. big papa says:

    My fear is that Lynne Cheney- the noted lesbian author- simply may not have been the appropriate role model for those poor little children. Everyone knows that she and L’il Dick haven’t been man and wife for years, for fear of him blowing a gasket (really, no joke)!


  202. Theresa says:

    “It is no use to preach to [children] if you do not act decently yourself.” Theodore Roosevelt, August 16, 1902


  203. big papa says:

    It’s official folks!

    Iraq has become America, which has become…Red China AND the former U.S.S.R.?

    BREAKING NEWS:

    “Bush Authorizes Torture, Surveillance of Citizenry, and Nation Building”

    Hey I-Trite-I, wwallace, Ryan Freako, and Puny Hermaphrodite

    All together now:

    “Yes we’re a banana republic,
    Thank our republican top bananas today!”


  204. I-RIGHT-I says:

    Here’s a tidbit for all you red state Bushites that you might find interesting. I was summarily banned (without explanation)from the redstate.org site for posting contrarian views to the posts on that site. I violated no posting rules, and in fact offered some very civil and (I’d say) sanguine points and remarks.

    My point is this, right wing red state Bush worshipping inbreds are welcomed with open arms (with some mild criticisms of their contrarian views) on Progressive sites. They are seldom banned and certainly NOT for presenting their points of view within the posting rules, yet the reverse is not true. Bushites fear TRUTH on their “group think” sites. They are afraid that a ray of sunshine might ruin their mushroom crops!

    hmmmm

    Comment by big papa

    “Bush worshipping inbreds are welcomed with open arms (with some mild criticisms of their contrarian views) on Progressive sites.”

    So far I’ve only been able to post nearly unhindered on this one and, once again I thank the powers that be that they allow me post here even though everyone knows that I’m a conservative troll and a…(WARNING: cover your children’s eyes)….Christian. That alone makes me less of a human being in the eyes of the Filthy Left. That said I have been banned from DU but in all fairness I did try and say Walter Williams might make a good role model for young American boys who happen to be dark skinned.

    “I violated no posting rules, and in fact offered some very civil and (I’d say) sanguine points and remarks.”

    I’ll bet. But you need to understand something. Left Wing Weenies (maybe not you) are known to be mostly juvenile delinquents who will spam a site at the urging of some Left Wing traitor blogger like Carlos “Screw Them” Zuninga, or that idiot Justin “Rainman” Raimondo. They filth they spew makes Ryan Neat look like a choir boy. There’s no reason to put up with that shit and who’s got time to figure out which one of you losers is bent that way? There ya go. The rotten apples in your barrel have spoiled it for you. Sorry. Feel free to take it out on me.


  205. Spudge_Boy says:

    Yer an idiot. Here’s your kind of hero then isn’t it?

    ‘WE PLAYED DILDO GOLF, WE PLAYED WHEEL OF SEX, WE ARE THE LAST OF A DYING BREED. THIS IS A BIG MOMENT. WE BROKE EVERY RULE KNOWN TO RADIO AND MANKIND. THE GOVERNMENT SAYS CLEAN UP YOUR ACT, WE SAY NEVER.’

    ~ Howard Stern

    Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 16, 2005 @ 11:13 am

    Actually yeah. Stop being such a stuck up prude. Boobs are good. So are butts and vaginas.


  206. big papa says:

    The rotten apples in your barrel have spoiled it for you. Sorry. Feel free to take it out on me.

    Comment by I-RIGHT-I

    I-Trite-I #209,

    You don’t make a good nuf Joan of Arcadia, just a fair simpleton target.

    But you are (seemingly) a good sport…for an inbred that is.

    O’h and you’re not like ANY Christian I was raised up with or have been exposed to. They were/are kind, generous, thoughtful, merciful, humble, and humane…(judging from your posts)none of those descriptions fit you.


  207. big papa says:

    WORFEUS #8,

    GOOD POINT!


  208. big papa says:

    My neighbor came over and mentioned a “Social Sudies” writing prompt about sparing “Tookie” Crip Williams. She was livid. Needless to say, her little Repub thought the needle was too good for the murderer. I guess Tookie got taken.

    Comment by mighty aphrodite

    Puny Hermaphrodite #33,
    It’s obvious living in a cloistered, inbred community does not afford you to SEE and UNDERSTAND the tragic irony of the front page of Monday’s USA Today “news”paper, where on one side there was a color photo of Stanley “Tookie” Williams with Headlines announcing Schwarzenegger’s denial for clemency (and Williams’ subsequent execution- for the murders of 4 people); then on the opposite side of the page written in big bold letters “BUSH ADMITS 30,000 DEAD IN IRAQ”.

    …and they executed who?

    You inbred, scumbag, “w”itch!


  209. Gregor Samsa says:

    (…)everyone knows that I’m a conservative troll and a…(WARNING: cover your children’s eyes)….Christian. That alone makes me less of a human being in the eyes of the Filthy Left.
    Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 16, 2005 @ 12:25 pm

    What an irony. You complain about being considered “less of a human” -when you in turn consider anyone who is non-WASP to be less of a human.

    I personally don’t consider you “less of a human” because of your religion. I consider you more of a Neanderthal because of your deep-seated racism.

    After exposing the rest of us to your bigoted, racist, misogynistic rants, don’t expect anyone to feel sorry for you.


  210. big papa says:

    It’s a mutation but they will say it’s divine intervention or intelligent design.

    Hey ha #199,

    Of course “they” will, have you ever seen one of those sombiches (SIC) dance?


  211. steven says:

    i typed on the search engine “please get me out of america” and this is what i got. i was never for this war and never will be. it reminds me of the vietnam war(59-75), nearly 20 years long. this “war of terror” is destined to last over 6 times longer. None of us will be left alive before this war ends, including those of us who live to old age.


  212. Ryan Neat says:

    “Cool. Maybe next they’ll find the gene that makes people with white skin measurably smarter on average than dark skinned people. Probably just another mutation.
    Comment by I-RIGHT-I”

    MizzWrong demostrates why delusion should be medicated.

    Group in britain with the highest per capita income:
    Nigerians

    There is no ‘intelligence gap’ in the races. All ‘races’ have a huge spectrum of intelligence on a somewhat standard bell curve. MizzWrong demostrates exactly why ‘white trash’ is often feared by all groups as the most hysterical and stupid of all subgroups…


  213. Ryan Neat says:

    big papa,

    I clocked MightyHermaphrodite for the tranny that she is. She’s not a woman, or a lawyer, just another nerd moron trying to get the much needed attention he can’t get in his real ‘loser’ life…


  214. JIMBO says:

    IRI- That reminds me, thanks for bringing up Howard Stern.
    Stern, love him or not, has also the balls to tell the tight-assed Government and Colin’s little shit of a son to kiss his ass. Now that I think about it, you remind me of Colin’s little shit of a son.
    You know, the one who has steam coming from his ears when an accidental slip of the breast or tongue reaches his eyes and ears.

    Quit whining and accept the fact that the Constitution of the USA protects you, me and 230 million plus Americans.
    If you don’t like it, you can always move to Iraq.


  215. big papa says:

    MizzWrong demostrates exactly why ‘white trash’ is often feared by all groups as the most hysterical and stupid of all subgroups…

    Comment by Ryan Neat

    Shucks Ryan,

    I could’ve told you that just from his ignorant, inbred posts!

    I clocked MightyHermaphrodite for the tranny that she is. She’s not a woman, or a lawyer, just another nerd moron trying to get the much needed attention he can’t get in his real ‘loser’ life…

    Comment by Ryan Neat

    Hmmm, ANOTHER right wing conservative cross dresser (J. Edgar, Bushiva et al.)?

    You don’t say…

    Do I detect a “motif” among right wing inbreds here?


  216. willysaero says:

    The ‘pubic ans are gettin’ scared as many of their own are learning what a wonderful feeling it is to think for themselves. The neo-con fascist shepherds of the “faux snews” variety are slowly becoming caricatures of themselves. Wake up rightists … YOU’VE BEEN HAD by junior and his idiot minions. Bite the bullet and admit to your your sheep-like inability to form your own opinions and join the real world. Democrats DON’T have all of the answers but are at least open-minded enough to listen to opinion. ‘pubic ans can’t even speak without being scripted, let alone think independently.


  217. I-RIGHT-I says:

    All ‘races’ have a huge spectrum of intelligence on a somewhat standard bell curve.

    Comment by Ryan Neat

    What the hell does that mean? Bullshit.

    By the way “The Bell Curve” by Charles Murray proved beyond reasonable doubt (as if we needed hard proof) that some races have higher innate intelligence. In addition we have proof that women, as a group, lack the evolutionary genetic intelligence to master the highest strata of mathematics and the hard sciences.

    therefore, one could reasonably assume ….you’re a black chick. Hahahahahahaaaaa.


  218. willysaero says:

    Hey I-Right-I …

    Just going to church doesn’t make you a
    Christian. Not any more than standing in a
    garage makes you a car.

    I’m A CHRISTian and totaly see through the hypocrisy of the ‘pubic an party. You bash, demonize, degrade everyone and anyone who doesn’t drink your kool-aid and then turn around and brag about how much “holier than you are”, how “God-like” you are to the rest of the world. The Lord sayeth:”Beware the self-righteous.”


  219. mighty aphrodite says:

    #214 – “Stanley “Tookie” Williams with Headlines announcing Schwarzenegger’s denial for clemency (and Williams’ subsequent execution- for the murders of 4 people); then on the opposite side of the page written in big bold letters “BUSH ADMITS 30,000 DEAD IN IRAQ”.” – Ignorant Comment by big papa
    *****Dear Little Daddy – You may wish to study a widely recognized legal concept – mens rea! Unless you UNDERSTAND this element of criminal behaviour, you will continue to make a glaring fool of yourself.


  220. I-RIGHT-I says:

    I’m A CHRISTian and totaly see through the hypocrisy of the ‘pubic an party. You bash, demonize, degrade everyone and anyone who doesn’t drink your kool-aid and then turn around and brag about how much “holier than you are”, how “God-like” you are to the rest of the world. The Lord sayeth:”Beware the self-righteous.”

    Comment by willysaero

    You do the same thing brother. The difference between us is I’m I-RIGHT-I and you’re stupid. I say that in brotherly Christian love of course.


  221. For Truth says:

    Most educational institutions are full of Liberals. It’s hard finding intelligent Conservatives. People who know what’s up, don’t buy the crap. Both coasts, where the cutting edge of things happening, are full of Liberals also. We don’t see great science, art, research, technology, music, and new discoveries coming from middle America. Let’s face it, the majority of conservatives are simple people, with overly simplified solutions to issues. “We’ll just kick their asses.”


  222. buzzbomb says:

    Can’t believe no one noticed waaay back in #17, Manuel Noriega the assinated Pres. of Cuba? WTF???


  223. For Truth says:

    #227,

    You’re right, WTF?


  224. For Truth says:

    Most people in the helping professions are Liberal also. The helping professions don’t pay enough for Conservatives. Conservatives are more interested in helping themselves, and feel people in need of help are losers and deserve it.

    Nice bunch, ingnorant and mean.


  225. I-RIGHT-I says:

    Let’s face it, the majority of conservatives are simple people, with overly simplified solutions to issues. “We’ll just kick their asses.”

    Comment by For Truth

    Your mind is over simplified to the point you’re a simpleton. See you in 08. Oh, by the way, we’ve got all the guns and the Army, Air Force, Marines and Navy are all our guys…with a few exceptions of course but all they do is deface cars with bush stickers on them. Not much good in a fight.


  226. I-RIGHT-I says:

    “Most educational institutions are full of Liberals. It’s hard finding intelligent Conservatives”

    Almost forgot. You are correct about that. But what you’re missing is the simple fact that the real smart guys are not teaching. Those who can’t do teach, the rest of us are out making the big bucks. The Liberal Elitists hate us for that too.


  227. big papa says:

    Oh, by the way, we’ve got all the guns and the Army, Air Force, Marines and Navy are all our guys…with a few exceptions of course but all they do is deface cars with bush stickers on them. Not much good in a fight.

    Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 16

    I-Trite-I #231

    Feelin’ froggy? Leap, inbred.

    If you’re such a hero why aren’t you signed up to fight for Bushiva’s “freedumb” (I hear the military’s having a bit of a “recruitment” problem).

    If you think you’re too old Halliburton needs security like yesterday!

    I know why, you’re a loud mouthed coward whose biggest balls are in his computer mouse.

    ——————————————————–

    …what you’re missing is the simple fact that the real smart guys are not teaching. Those who can’t do teach, the rest of us are out making the big bucks.

    Comment by I-RIGHT-I

    I-Trite-I #232,

    No wonder those aliens keep abducting you red state, Bushite inbreds, studying amoebic life is simply fascinating.


  228. Ilean says:

    Talk about judgmental, self-righteous….you are ALL ultra conservatives….and mean mouth about it too. Far right in drag?????


  229. big papa says:

    Talk about judgmental, self-righteous….you are ALL ultra conservatives….and mean mouth about it too. Far right in drag?????

    Comment by Ilean

    Sorry ma!

    But the right wing, Al Cracka Bushites started it.


  230. Spudge_Boy says:

    “Talk about judgmental, self-righteous….you are ALL ultra conservatives….and mean mouth about it too. Far right in drag?????”

    That is funny. Call everybody judgemental then call us all a name.

    Troll


  231. big papa says:

    Just saw Dana Rohrbacher, repugliscum from California defending Bushiva’s secret authorization of eavesdropping on U.S. citizens. His eyes were wild and open to the max (while debating former repugliscum House Mgr Bob Barr), and Rohrbacher said, “We should be thankful for a president who…blah blah blah” and “If we’re attacked with a nuke it would “burn” the Constitution anyway.”

    Lord have mercy, if Abraham Lincoln did one thing wrong (like Papa Bush) he didn’t go all the way. Dana Rohrbacher is a textbook case of why the inbred traitors should’ve been finished off during the Civil War!


  232. BOB says:

    What Lynnn Chainme wants
    to teach
    your Kids
    to Talk like
    Below
    ______________
    ‘n goeie begryper het net ‘n halwe woord nodig jou omgekeerde toiletdeksel.
    “A wise man needs only half a word to comprehend.”

    WELL I got your ass Buddie
    As usual
    the FreEKZ-O-COns

    Spknzdeutchenwoordenafrikaan
    [[[[OXFORD GERMANIC WORD GAMES!!
    http://www.askoxford.com/wordgames/wordchallenge/
    have fun
    bloediger
    bloediges
    bloedigste
    bloedigstes
    bloeding
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    bloedings
    bloedjie
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    bloedjong
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    bloedjonk
    bloedkanker
    bloedkleur
    bloedkleurstof
    bloedklont
    bloedklonte
    bloedkol
    bloedkolle
    bloedkoraal

    BloedyouchaineeeAT??


  233. I-RIGHT-I says:

    What Lynnn Chainme wants
    to teach
    your Kids
    to Talk like
    Below
    Comment by BOB

    I think Lynn would be satisfied if the kiddies simply didn’t turn out brain damaged. She must have missed you.


  234. I-RIGHT-I says:

    Lord have mercy, if Abraham Lincoln did one thing wrong (like Papa Bush) he didn’t go all the way. Dana Rohrbacher is a textbook case of why the inbred traitors should’ve been finished off during the Civil War!

    Comment by big papa

    You sir are no historian or gentleLord have mercy, if Abraham Lincoln did one thing wrong (like Papa Bush) he didn’t go all the way. Dana Rohrbacher is a textbook case of why the inbred traitors should’ve been finished off during the Civil War!

    Comment by big papa

    You sir are no historian or gentleman. Speaking ill of the men on either side of the fight proves you are not fit to lick my boots let alone the men who served this great nation. My guess is the only thing you know about the Civil War is the name of the Union President. man. Speaking ill of the men on either side of the fight proves you are not fit to lick my boots let alone the men who served this great nation. My guess is the only thing you know about the Civil War is the name of the Union President.


  235. Tracy says:

    #46

    “Yea? And what has your big bad tough guy done to North Korea.”

    Do you actually think that the U.S. would attempt doing anything to N. Korea militarily considing that they have nukes? Do you know what a nuke is and what it can do?

    “Remember, he thought Iraq had them, and he bombed and invaded.”

    Bush didn’t think that Iraq had nukes before the invasion and never said Sadamm did. Where are do you get your news from? He said he was trying to produce them.

    “He’s a puss. A paper tiger. He picks on the kid in the class who can’t fight back, and he ignores the ones who can fight back”

    If Bush Jr. would have been in office back when his father was in 1990, not only would he have demolished the 3rd largest army in the world at the time, he would have finished the job and taken out Sadamm…as should have been done nearly fifteen years ago.

    BTW Clinton was and is the biggest puss of all time considering he vowed to take care of the Al Qaeda problem for seven years after the 1993 WTC bombing and in turn we got 9/11 and over 3,000 dead. The deaths of those in NYC lie squarely at the feet of Dick Clinton.


  236. Tracy says:

    #146

    “NATO did that, and it wasn’t Yugoslavia”

    Serbia, Croatia whatever…please don’t get into semantics. The U.S. led the way as they did in the 1990-1991 Gulf War and did most of the work for that puss European’s who couldn’t seem to take care of problems in their own back yard.

    “Yugoslavia had already fallen apart and civil war was going on.”

    What Milosivic and the Serbians were doing was NOT civil war…it was systematic slaughter of civilians.

    “Now there is civil war going on in Iraq when there wasn’t one before.”

    So stoping genocide committed by Milosivic and the Serbians was the right thing to do but stopping Sadamm from doing the SAME for thirty years was not?

    “Are all trolls this stupid?”

    You must be the troll because you asked the question:
    “What do you mean we, white man?” and then gave a dumb answer: “NATO did that…”


  237. Tracy says:

    #153

    They critized him for not acting sooner!

    “Believe me, if Bush had successfully put a stop to violence in Iraq he would have much more support for his war”

    The only way there wasn’t going to be violence between the Sunnis and the Shiite’s was if the invasion and the removal of Sadamm’s regime didn’t happen. Then there would be just a continuation of the slaughter of the Shiites by Sadamm and a further continuation after his sons took over. The types of democratic political changes that are taking place in Iraq don’t come about peacefully. Do you know of any free society that came to be without a violent revolution or civil war?

    BTW NATO peacekeeping forces are STILL in former Yugoslavia, i.e. an occupying force, so why are so many people whinning about coalition forces still in Iraq?..only three years so far.


  238. Tracy says:

    #156

    “Clinton had International support for getting rid of Milosivic. Bush lied to the UN.”

    Bush lied to the U.N.? Do you have some proof of that? Bush had international support to get rid of Sadamm but apparently they didn’t have the guts to enforce their own resolutions.


  239. big papa says:

    I-Trite-I #240

    If you slimy, inbred, right wing, Al Cracka, Bushites remain in power for mush longer mother nature or internecine conflict will destroy this nation.

    Personally, I’m from the Sherman school of war. If the dogs of war must be unleashed, one should be sufficiently contemptuous of one’s foe as to be willing to render that foe totally inert! This means that the foe should pose such a threat or embody such evil that one is willing to use brutal force and tactics sufficient to make that foe incapable of ever rising up again.

    Bushiva can’t do that (morally) because the Iraqis have done NOTHING to us.

    Over 30,000 lives (yeah right wink wink), and $2-300 billion dollars to catch and have a show trial for ONE man, who’s the fool Trite?

    I see you brought along a friend this time.

    “Trashy” #s 241-44

    You “won” the election, YOUR president lied to go to war, and Bill Clinton can walk the streets of any country in the world and people will greet him as a hero…(your cheerleading wus can’t do that can he?)

    Get over it inbred!


  240. big papa says:

    Hugo Chavez was right about Mr. Danger.

    Were we in a “just” society we’d have impeachment hearings scheduled for next week, because there’s no doubt the mr. Danger broke the law when he circumvented the courts to authorize spying on American citizens.

    But American “justice” is exclusive to people like Stanley “Tookie” Williams, Bushites are exempt.


  241. big papa says:

    BTW NATO peacekeeping forces are STILL in former Yugoslavia, i.e. an occupying force, so why are so many people whinning about coalition forces still in Iraq?..only three years so far.

    Comment by Tracy

    “Trashy”,

    In former Yugoslavia

    No insurgency
    No ieds
    No daily bloodshed
    No torture
    No abductions of foreigners
    No beheadings
    No foereign terrorists/ism
    No civil war
    No link to Iran
    No radical Islamic state
    No fake misinformation scams
    No collateral damage
    No credibility problems
    no daily spin (right wing talking points)

    …need I go on?


  242. Tracy says:

    Did all the vast majority of things you listed happen between 1993-1998?..the answer is YES. Plus you left out a few like genocide and rape. Of course in your mind what happened during those years was a quick clean and bloodless campaign to get rid of Milosivic.

    http://www.radstats.org.uk/no069/article3.htm

    You need to come up with a different list in order to have creditability.


  243. big papa says:

    Trashy #247

    I fully understand why you can’t even spell the word: “credibility”, because the dark force you serve (the Bushite junta) has none; having said that, Bill Clinton (who is NO LONGER PRESIDENT) has spoken on more than one occasion about his regret at not responding to the RWANDAN genocide (and God will judge HIM for that). But pray tell- with hindsight being what it is, why hasn’t your god (Bushiva) moved to stop the genocide being perpetrated daily against the tribesmen, women and children of Sudan?

    I’ll tell you why, number one: Sudan (unfortunately for those victims of the infamous Janjaweed mass murdering scum) isn’t sitting on strategic oil reserves. You see to the right wing scumbag Bushites “freedom and democracy” are reserved only for those who can pay for it! Secondly, they’re just a bunch of dirt poor, Black beasts of burden relegated to the trash heap of humanity by your European gods of corruption and evil!

    Let’s talk more about “credibility” sometime when you’ve learned both its meaning, and THEN how to spell it!


  244. big papa says:

    Trash #247,

    By the by,
    I realize that “creditability” could be used in place of “credibility”, but it (creditability) is a term that carries too monetary a connotation (guess that’s the republiscum in you) for my tastes. “Credibility” seems to me to be the more appropriate term when discussion is of a philosophical nature relating to “trustworthiness” and “believability”.


  245. Tracy says:

    “Bill Clinton (who is NO LONGER PRESIDENT) has spoken on more than one occasion about his regret at not responding to the RWANDAN genocide”

    I don’t care for his MULTIPLE BS excuses especially when it comes to why Al Qaeda was able to carry out 9/11 even though he had seven years to shut them down. His LACK of regret is about as genuine as his regret for the fact the he didn’t shut down Al Qaeda for seven years…it’s NON- EXISTANT. 9/11 happened because Clinton didn’t respond to the Al Qaeda threat. BTW the U.N. and the pussy French (you know the occupying force in Rwanda in 1994) let the genocide happen. The U.S can’t take care of every problem that happens in the world and the U.N. needs to for once, step up and do it without the U.S. having to hold their hand. Where was the corrupt U.N. when the genocide in Rwanda was going on?

    “But pray tell- with hindsight being what it is, why hasn’t your god (Bushiva) moved to stop the genocide being perpetrated daily against the tribesmen, women and children of Sudan?”

    As soon as you explain why Clinton didn’t do anything to prevent the genocide in Rwanda. BTW the Bush administration has done far more to mediate peace in the Sudan than Clinton ever did in Rwanda…oh I forgot he didn’t do ANYTHING.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3211002.stm

    “Sudan (unfortunately for those victims of the infamous Janjaweed mass murdering scum) isn’t sitting on strategic oil reserves.”

    Oh, there are rather LARGE oil reserves in Sudan. Do some research before making such dumb statements.

    http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/sudan.html

    “Secondly, they’re just a bunch of dirt poor, Black beasts of burden relegated to the trash heap of humanity by your European gods of corruption and evil!”

    If you want to be a racist please go join some Nazi skinhead party.


  246. Tracy says:

    #244

    “This means that the foe should pose such a threat or embody such evil that one is willing to use brutal force and tactics sufficient to make that foe incapable of ever rising up again.”

    If you are suggesting that a weapon unused is a useless weapon you are wacked. The fact that the U.S. never had to use nukes on the Soviets made the arms race during the Cold War a useless exercise and had absolutely nothing to do with the collapse of USSR? LOL!

    “Bushiva can’t do that (morally) because the Iraqis have done NOTHING to us.”

    The invasion of 2003 was not about trying to kill Iraqis. BTW why if this insurgency in Iraq today is all about ousting the coalition from Iraq in order to restore Iraqi pride by expelling a foreign force (i.e. their cause is noble), then why don’t the Shiite’s comprise the majority of those insurgents…why are the vast majority Sunni’s? Answer, because the insurgents are sympathizers of the Baathist party that brutally ran Iraq for 30 years!

    “Over 30,000 lives (yeah right wink wink), and $2-300 billion dollars to catch and have a show trial for ONE man, who’s the fool Trite?”

    If that is as insightful as to the MULTITUDE of long run benefits that ousting Sadamm will bring then you should understand why liberals won’t be back in control of Congress or the Presidency for decades to come. Your insight is about a long as your attention span when dealing with world wide beneficial long term solutions that might take years if not decades to realize.


  247. Tracy says:

    #244 again

    “YOUR president lied to go to war”

    Which panel, court, or committee has come to that provable conclusion?

    “…and Bill Clinton can walk the streets of any country in the world and people will greet him as a hero…(your cheerleading wus can’t do that can he?)”

    A hero for doing what?! He didn’t do anything for TEN years! LOL! BTW would he be a hero walking down the streets of Belgrade after bombing the crap out of that city, or the streets of Kartoum after mistakenly bombing an asprin factory while screwing one of his interns, or the streets of Baghdad after killing many civilians with various bombing raids?


  248. Ilean says:

    So Lynn Cheney talked to school children about the election in the country their parents are serving in. Gee, how terrible. We actually do teach current events in school!
    The woman has written childrens books and you call her names? You laud Howard Stern. Uffda.
    You have (I would assume liberal) people on this site who say they really indoctrinate the kids in their classrooms and are proud of it. (Maybe that’s why the scores are not so great- too much time indoctrinating-less time teaching). Didn’t see any objection to that….yuck.
    Do you people think I mean really think or just foam at the mouth?


  249. Tracy says:

    “Were we in a “just” society we’d have impeachment hearings scheduled for next week, because there’s no doubt the mr. Danger broke the law when he circumvented the courts to authorize spying on American citizens.”

    Please explain to the audience, you being an expert on constitutional law (NOT!), how Bush broke the law by authorizing wire taps on American citizens?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/16/AR2005121600021.html

    “The super-secretive NSA, which has generally been barred from domestic spying except in narrow circumstances involving foreign nationals…”

    i.e. it’s LEGAL to wire tap in when it involves foreign nationals.

    “For more than four years, the NSA tasked other military intelligence agencies to assist its broad-based surveillance effort directed at people inside the country suspected of having terrorist connections, even before Bush signed the 2002 order that authorized the NSA program, according to an informed U.S. official.”

    i.e. the Clinton adminstration knew about the NSA program and used it multiple times during his administration…again it’s use is narrow in scope but legal. BTW, just because the NY Time SPECULATES that hundreds perhaps thousands of American citizen’s had their phone or e-mail conversations monitored, doesn’t make it so.


  250. Ilean says:

    Thank you! Tracy! You are right!


  251. Ilean says:

    BTW- where are the malnutrition figures from? Who compiled them? Thanks in advance.


  252. Bizzle says:

    Looking at George Bush, Laura Bush, Dick Cheney, and Lynn Cheney, it’s hard to believe that these four are representative of North America. Dick and Lynn (who is easily the most unattractive woman in the federal gov’t) look like they should be feeding pigeons in Central Park. All four are proven liars…period.



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