Comment by Jebus hating SOB

Merry Christmas! Chances are you’ll grow out of it.

Comment by Jl Hough —

The teachings of Jesus are the foundation of several cults. Yours happens to be a soft agnostic position firmly rooted in post modern secular humanism. You losers love to quote Jesus and say how much you admire him but you don’t know Him and you don’t really care to.

Your so-called “truth” is the same “truth” that the Pharisees used to condemn and crucify Jesus: Mosaic Law narrowly interpreted by authoritarian legalisms administered by a hypocritical power-craving money-hungry priesthood.
I gave you the outline of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Only a retard could confuse that with the Jews who were keeping the letter of the Law but ignoring the Spirit. In that regard they are more like Leftists keeping a rigid politically correct and Marxist doctrine.

As for “ulilitarian humanistic warm fuzzies”, it seems that you have a derogatory label for everything and anyone that disagrees with your offensive dogma.

The truth hurts don’t it buddy

So, according to you, our Creator incarnated as Jesus just so He could reaffirm the law of Moses? Brother, you don’t even have a clue. And it is certain that you have no knowledge of Jesus, His teachings, or how He added to our knowledge of Deity.
This kind of answer is why I don’t waste much time on the unlettered walking dead who think they know something. Jesus was a Jew. The only Jew able to keep the entire law. In His flesh he was a Jew. In His deity He was Christ taking upon Himself the sins of the world as the ONLY acceptable sacrifice, the only perfect sacrifice for a Holy God. Jesus did reaffirm the Law but He did more than that. He affirmed the Prophets and fulfilled the Law so we don’t have to.

You have a very immature and ignorant concept of God’s plan of redemption of mankind and Christ’s saving work on the cross. And that sir is why you are a Left Wing Walking Dead Loser. For some reason God has not given it to you to know. Perhaps He has given you just enough to keep you awake nights wondering why nothing makes sense to you. That could be your invitation to get down on your knees and ask Him.

If I were you I’d spend a lot more time in sincere prayer for understanding. All sincere prayers are answered, and you might just open your heart and mind enough to let a little light shine in.

Been there, done that. That’s why I know what I speak of and everything you know is wrong.

I know what cult you belong to. I never ask a question around here I don’t already know the answer to.

Your ignorance is exceeded only by your unbounded arrogance. You can not possibly know what “cult” I “belong to” because I don’t “belong to” anything that remotely fits accepted definitions of a “cult”. That is, unless you call the teachings of Jesus the foundations of a “cult”.

I could go into detail of why you are wrong but then I’ve already given you the truth and you come back with utilitarian humanistic warm fuzzies that are meaningless.

Your so-called “truth” is the same “truth” that the Pharisees used to condemn and crucify Jesus: Mosaic Law narrowly interpreted by authoritarian legalisms administered by a hypocritical power-craving money-hungry priesthood.

As for “ulilitarian humanistic warm fuzzies”, it seems that you have a derogatory label for everything and anyone that disagrees with your offensive dogma.

You can’t save yourself brother. Not from the justice of a Holy God. It is you that demean and defame by suggesting otherwise.

You would not recognize the truth standing in front of you, any more than Pilate could when it was staring him in the face. “Truth? What is truth?”, he said, as He prepared to execute our Lord.

Oh, by the way. The faith of Jesus was the Mosaic Law. That is if you can say that God has a faith.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 20, 2005 @ 11:38 am

So, according to you, our Creator incarnated as Jesus just so He could reaffirm the law of Moses? Brother, you don’t even have a clue. And it is certain that you have no knowledge of Jesus, His teachings, or how He added to our knowledge of Deity.

If I were you I’d spend a lot more time in sincere prayer for understanding. All sincere prayers are answered, and you might just open your heart and mind enough to let a little light shine in.

Comment by leaderx

BS..they’re called the Labor Party

Are you sure you know Jesus?

Comment by Jl Hough

And yet that is exactly what scriptures teach us. I know what cult you belong to. I never ask a question around here I don’t already know the answer to.

I could go into detail of why you are wrong but then I’ve already given you the truth and you come back with utilitarian humanistic warm fuzzies that are meaningless. You can’t save yourself brother. Not from the justice of a Holy God. It is you that demean and defame by suggesting otherwise.

Oh, by the way. The faith of Jesus was the Mosaic Law. That is if you can say that God has a faith.

Comment by Mike Norris

Nonsense. That study was a put up job by British communists intent on hurting Tony Blair. It was exposed the minute it was published.

Q: What’s the difference between Hitler and Bush?
A: Hitler was elected legitimately. (And had good looks, too.)

Our Father, His Father, did not kill him, or require His death at all. These are rather primitive and barbaric notions. Do you know His voice?

Comment by Jl Hough

I don’t know what cult you belong to but having said what you just said it’s clear to even the baby Christian you do not Hear His voice.

You may not know what “cult” I belong to, but I know what cult YOU belong to: one of the thousands of cults and sub-cults of so-called Christianity.

I follow, as best I can, the faith and teachings of Jesus, and that is something entirely different from traditional, institutional Christianity.

Christianity, as is proved by your old and new testament quotations are primarily the flawed and imperfect understandings of Paul, the so-called Apostle, who never knew Jesus or heard Him teach while He lived in the flesh on Earth.

What you fail to understand is that Christianity, while in many ways a very good religion ABOUT Jesus, contains very little of the faith or religion OF Jesus. Christianity is a man-made religion, complete with faulty creeds, doctrines, dogmas, and concepts ABOUT Jesus, that replaced the faith OF Jesus that He taught while among us 2000 years ago.

Most of your quotations are of Paul, a few of Peter, who did know Jesus while he lived, and yet was imperfect enough in his faith to deny the Master three times on the eve of His torturous crucifixion. How many times did the Master say, “How long have I been among you, and yet you still do not understand.”?

Man is slow to comprehend divine truth, but quick to corrupt and distort it as it passes through human hands and minds. And that is precisely what happened in varying degrees with the 11 remaining Apostles after the death of Jesus, and Judas. The overwhelming fact of the resurrection overcame the Master’s teaching’s while He lived and walked among them, and the resurrection, while factual, became the central “gospel”, replacing the original gospel, or good news, that Jesus taught while he was among them.

That “good news” or gospel, was that all men are the sons of God, and by faith can come to know and realize that sonship; and that the fact that God is the Father/Creator of all men who appropriate that fact by faith makes all men brothers. The “gospel” of Jesus was the Fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of Men – all men and all women, everywhere, who have not fully and consciously rejected that Father/Son relationship through iniquity, habitual sin.

If your intentions are pure, and these quotations you provided are the limits of your capacity for understanding, it will not be held against you, nor any other soul. But your NT quotes are mostly Paul’s imperfect understandings. Your OT quotes are of an earlier era, whose faulty understandings of God were among the things Jesus came to correct.

Jesus came to replace the religions of priests and lawgivers with the religion of the heart and soul. All true religion is the inner experience of knowing God as your Creator-Father and yourself as His Son, and other Men as your Brother. Religious authorities are not needed, and only get in the way of true religion. Jesus was crucified because of this teaching, and the threat that it represented to established religious authority.

I repeat, to hold or teach that God could not offer salvation to his sons until His blameless Son was sacrificed is a primitive, even barbarous concept. It is an affront to God, a demeaning insult to the majesty and mercy, and justice and love that is God.

Are you sure you know Jesus?

Comment by Jl Hough

I don’t know what cult you belong to but having said what you just said it’s clear to even the baby Christian you do not Hear His voice.

Here, for the first time on Think Communist it’s my pleasure to present in outling form The Lord’s Plan of Salvation. Listen to His voice.

God tells the truth about mankind:

“As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one.” (Romans 3:10)

“For there is not a just man upon earth, that does good, and does not sin.” (Ecclesiastes 7:20)

“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.” (Romans 3:23)

“…For there is no man that sins not….” (1 Kings 8:46)

“All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord has laid on Him [Jesus] the iniquity of us all.” (Isaiah 53:6)

God says that He must punish sin:

“Behold, all souls are Mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is Mine: the soul that sins, it shall die.” (Ezekiel 18:4)

“For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” (Romans 6:23)

God tells the inside story about His remedy for sin:

“Come now, and let us reason together, says the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.” (Isaiah 1:18)

“God commends [demonstrates] His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” (Romans 5:8)

“Who His own self bare our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes you were healed.” (l Peter 2:24)

“He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon Him; and with His stripes we are healed.” (Isaiah 53:5)

“Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Spirit.” (Titus 3:5)

“For by grace are you saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2:8, 9)

God wants to save you and will save you if you will follow His instructions:

“He who believes on the Son has everlasting life: and he who believes not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abides on him.” (John 3:36)

“And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you shall be saved, and your household.” (Acts 16:31)

“To Him give all the prophets witness, that through His name whoever believes in Him shall receive remission of sins.” (Acts 10:43)

“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16)

“And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book: but these are written, that you might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you might have life through His name.” (John 20:30, 31)

God definitely declares that there is only one way to be saved:

“Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by Me.” (John 14:6)

“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is no other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” (Acts 4:12)

“Jesus said, I am the resurrection and the life: he that believes in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: and whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?” (John 11:25, 26)

“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.” (l Timothy 2:5)

Christ extends to you a personal invitation:

“All that the Father gives Me shall come to Me; and he that comes to Me I will in no wise cast out.” (John 6:37)

Jesus is no pacifist and the Romans didn’t kill him for being one. In fact the Romans didn’t kill him at all, His Father did. Jesus allowed himself to be taken. Had He wished it any other way the last page written about the Roman Empire would have been about that day. He’s not the pussy cat, He’s the Lion.

You apparently don’t have a clue about Jesus. He was not only a pacifist, He was the Prince of Peace.

The Romans didn’t kill Him for being a pacifist, they killed Him because the Pharisees and Herod wanted him killed. He was a threat to their established and corrupt order and authority.

Our Father, His Father, did not kill him, or require His death at all. These are rather primitive and barbaric notions. However you are correct in saying He allowed Himself to be taken. He refused to use His divine powers to change temporal events, or escape the consequences of His teachings or revelations of God to mankind.

You are also correct that His slightest wish could have eliminated His killers, or the entire Roman Empire. But He never likened Himself to a lion, only to a good shepherd, whose flock knows His voice.

Do you know His voice?

If you think Jesus would approve of this war of aggression then you do not know His voice, or what He taught us about His/our Father’s will, which is about loving God and our fellow man – all men.

He would not have approved the killing of innocents by the invasion of a sovereign nation, even a rogue nation with a tyrant at its head.

Do you suppose Saddam was much worse than Herod, who slaughtered every child under two years of age in Bethlehem in an attempt to kill the prophesied child Messiah or redeemer?

Are you sure you would know His voice?