Congress will investigate Bush’s secret
domestic surveillance program. “‘There is no doubt that this is inappropriate,’ declared Republican Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. He promised hearings early next year.”
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Wow, even the Republicans don’t like this one. It looks like the pieces are falling into place as our trolls like to say. I don’t just don’t think they are falling where the trolls thought they would.
December 16th, 2005 at 6:40 pmOnce on Fox News, way back durring the Clinton pardons, the Fox anchors were having a ball saying Clinton could not get away from controversy. But now look at Bush. I can not believe Republicans can keep a straight face while saying what Clinton did was far worse than Bush. COME ON NOW!
December 16th, 2005 at 6:41 pmInappropriate?
How about unconstitutional, illegal and unamerican!
Fascist idiots!
December 16th, 2005 at 6:44 pmGeorge Bush should have just went the blow job route. At least that can’t land you in jail.
December 16th, 2005 at 6:48 pmThey have their eye on the dark sinister forces of The Sisters of the Poor for selling candy bars to buy medicine for Iraqi children.
December 16th, 2005 at 6:48 pmWell, President Bush refuses to discuss whether he had authorized such domestic spying, saying to comment would tie his hands in fighting terrorists. Plus, it’s White House policy not to comment on an impending investigation. Guess he’s guilty since he hasn’t said he’s innocent.
December 16th, 2005 at 6:53 pmSince the White House won’t comment on any ongoing investigations and everything is under investigation, why do they bother have press conferences at all?
December 16th, 2005 at 6:55 pmGoddamn, the walls or closing in!
Nail the chimp bastard!
December 16th, 2005 at 6:56 pm#4 Spudge
Do you suppose Mean Jean could put on a blue dress for her date with DUHbya and they could just fade away into the sunset, never to be heard from again? Hurry Fitz, there are only nine more indictment days until HolidaySeasonmas.
December 16th, 2005 at 6:57 pm[…] Update: Congress will investigate Bush’s secret domestic surveillance program. “‘There is no doubt that this is inappropriate,’ declared Republican Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. He promised hearings early next year.†• • • […]
December 16th, 2005 at 7:01 pm“Congress will investigate Bush’s secret
domestic surveillance program.”….
Uh huh. Sure they will. Just like they investigated if WMD intelligence was manipulated (”Phase II”). This will NEVER HAPPEN. I don’t care what they say now…this just wont happen in a Repub-dominated Congress. Sorry y’all, but Bush broke the law–egregiously–but unless the Dems have control, nadda chance this gets past a few indignants and blowhards….
Another day, another crime…
December 16th, 2005 at 7:16 pmThis just wont happen in a Repub-dominated Congress.
Don’t be so sure… the law is the law. There is no wiggle room here. This isn’t “ethics”.
And it definitely will be a Democratic majority in both houses in less than a year.
December 16th, 2005 at 7:26 pmThe Repugs in the Senate and House have two choices - either the current set of criminals is ousted from the Executive branch or the impeachment process will start in January, 2007 when the Repugs are a minority party in both houses of Congress.
December 16th, 2005 at 7:27 pmAnd Digby.
It’s over.
December 16th, 2005 at 7:29 pmDigby, and why Bush has as much to fear from conservatives as he does from liberals.
December 16th, 2005 at 7:32 pmAfter 9/11 these people went crazy and convinced themselves that the country was in such mortal, exitential danger that this theory of imperial presidential perogative was a necessity. They say they are doing it to protect the citizens of this country. But one thing that American conservatives used to understand was that our system of government was forged by people who understood that too much power invested in one place is dangerous and that sometimes the people needed to be protected from their own government. That’s fundamental to our laborious process of checks and balances and a free press. (Indeed, it was that principle on which they based their absolutist stand on the second amendment.)
This is a clear violation of the law and the constitution, plus it hit the national news. The Repugs cant ignore and shove it back like the other investigations and expect to be re-electable.
I almost hope they do try to push it back, so they lose both houses, then impeach the chimpy. This should bother even the most conservative ( I don’t
The president is NOT above the law, whether this president believes he is or not. This is an impeachable offence.
December 16th, 2005 at 7:43 pmIs this what it takes to wake the ReichWingNutWackJobs up to the fact that their sainted leader lies, steals, wages war on innocent peoples, and monitors the progress of the citizens he’s supposed to be leading?
Tell me again; How is this different than Germany 1937?
How can BushCo have ANY supporters left? This is the most failed presidency in my lifetime. And I’ve lived a little while.
December 16th, 2005 at 7:43 pmgrr,lost part of the text
December 16th, 2005 at 7:50 pmmeant to say :
this should bother even most conservatives ( I dont consider neocons true conservatives, though )
Do we finally get an “accountablility” moment?
15- Cheney did say in the 2000 runup that they wanted to reinstitute the “imperial presidency.” Too bad we got the one he wanted.
December 16th, 2005 at 7:54 pm**looks around and notices the trolls have run for the hills and haven’t touched this thread***
December 16th, 2005 at 7:56 pmThe only difference between Germany 1937 and the USA today is that Germany was in total collapse in the financial sense. We may get there soon.
December 16th, 2005 at 8:02 pmThe trolls are under the bridge contemplating thin ice.
December 16th, 2005 at 8:04 pmCongress will investigate Bush’s secret? Which one? There are so many to investigate. Where to begin…
December 16th, 2005 at 8:16 pmThis is not going to sit well with many old-line Goldwater conservatives who have kept their mouths shut up to now. I think this will be the straw that breaks the Bush camel’s back — authorizing illegal wiretapping and surveillance of American citizens is very much against the law, and definitely impeachable — it’s a violation of the Constitution Bush took an oath to uphold. I tend to be as cynical as Punchy when talking about impeachment, but it’s all coming thick and fast now, and Bush is gradually being held accountable.
December 16th, 2005 at 8:29 pmWhat will it take for the blinded right to agree that this administration is a complete disaster?
December 16th, 2005 at 8:45 pmNot to worry. The White House will figure out a way to shut down any investigation as long as the RepubliCons are in the majority.
December 16th, 2005 at 8:51 pmThis is another reason to call for the impeachment of Bush. This is a federal offense. Add this to his high crime of pre-emptive war.
December 16th, 2005 at 9:35 pmIMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH
December 16th, 2005 at 9:48 pmThe Constitution states that if the President is incapacitated, the Vice President shall assume the office. This is the reason that Cheney has taken over the responsibilities of the President since January 21, 2001. Moving into the Oval Office itself is merely a technicality.
December 16th, 2005 at 10:32 pm#29, WTM, Did you read the article below?
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/43189
Do you think it’s true or a joke?
December 16th, 2005 at 11:38 pmMarie #30, that is hilarious. The article is written in a serious manner though.
Nothing surprises me anymore and this would explain a lot.
Cheney has caused Bubble boys delusions? Wow!
December 16th, 2005 at 11:49 pmMarie, I just asked Dave about The Onion. It is a joke. Its a legendary publication famous for writing fake news.
Funny though.
December 17th, 2005 at 12:00 amBubble boy may have broken the law, but only Congress can try and convict him. With Republicans controlling both houses and the Supreme Court in firm control by conservatives who looked the other way during the 2000 Presidential elections in Florida, I have no doubt that they can rig it so that Bush will continue to be secure in his job for the next 3 years.
December 17th, 2005 at 12:39 am#30 - #32,
December 17th, 2005 at 1:27 amSure, I saw the article. While “The Onion” is tongue in cheek, it often gets closer to the facts than most of the MSM. http://ironictimes.com/ also provides facts in prospective.
Home Grown Insurgency
December 17th, 2005 at 1:38 amDecember 15, 2005
The White House is taken aback by the House of Representatives. The article “House votes to renew Patriot Act†by Sheryl Gay Stolberg stunned the nation’s control freaks that the Patriot Act must be further scrutinize for its lack of judicial oversight and safeguards against abuse. The word “insurgency†which President Bush least appreciates had occurred in the House, demanding to renew his anti-terrorism law. The House became aware that this law has given the Justice Department authorization to investigate American citizens without judicial oversight; to allow government to search individuals’ private property without notifying them; to allow authorities to search citizens’ financial, medical, library, and school records without judicial oversight. Many Americans wants to remain independent of Big Brother’s watchful gaze and want to make sure that the Defense Dept. won’t expanded their intelligence programs, creating new agencies, and adding more “legal” authority for domestic security activities in this trumped up post-9/11 world. The Pentagon once promised Congress that after the Vietnam War it won’t spy on Americans without notifying Congress. Under the Bush administration that promise got broken real fast and easy.
15-Bat Wielding Moonbat: I think I can add further to your comment by breaking it down. Here I go:
After 9/11 these people went crazy and convinced themselves that the country was in such mortal, exitential danger that this theory of imperial presidential perogative was a necessity:
Americans weny “crazy†because of what they been told and convinced of their invulnerability which is absent in other countries was a gift from God. It wasn’t surprising that we freaked out when God who “once giveth now took it away.†Thus we, in our impaired mental state, looked to Bush’s simple face that read “I can protect you, my dears. Just surrender all your civil rights as Americans, along with your country and your children to me and I’ll make sure you won’t have a worry in your pretty little heads.
They say they are doing it to protect the citizens of this country:
Bush said: “I’ll promised to get that Osama al-Laden and start a war with Iraq. Saddam likes Osama, both are out to get us. Both gotta go. Well, at least, Saddam. Osama can remained in the back burner indefinitely since he was the one who hit us.
But one thing that American conservatives used to understand was that our system of government was forged by people who understood that too much power invested in one place is dangerous and that sometimes the people needed to be protected from their own government:
Well, that balance was an off-and-on event in American history. It was off in the later 1940s to the early 1950s. It was on again in the 1960’s (almost when off as well). It was off again in the 1980s and went on again in the 1990s. When Bush Jr. came in it started to go off again. Where is it now? Which way the wind is blowing?
That’s fundamental to our laborious process of checks and balances and a free press:
That is right, except when we, Americans, choose it to toss it out to the side of the road, like we have since 2001.
(Indeed, it was that principle on which they based their absolutist stand on the second amendment.)
A well regulated militia (the National Guard) being necessary to security of a free State: Whether we bear arms or not, whether we still have our National Gurard (most of them are skirted to Iraq) we Americans allow ourselves to be deluded, and we paid the price in hundreds of $billions, tens of thousands in wounded, 2,100 plus dead troops, compromised our juridical, legislation, and executive branches, fatten Bush’s corported and weathty friends (or base). The second amendment or any of the amendments are in danger of disappearing. Solution: make Bush and his fat friends desappear in a federal pen.
December 17th, 2005 at 3:01 amThe links between the top Republicans and their manifold crimes and sleaziness is now coming to the surface. Cheney, Delay, Frist, Abramoff, Rove — the whole bunch are interconnected and interdependent in their egregious corruption and misuse of power for personal profit.
Bush himself is imbroiled in torture schemes, lying to get us into a war, likely protecting the leakers of Plame’s identity (treason), and now this unconstitutional use of executive power, along with all of this, his family has been making a healthy profit from his tax cuts and defense deals.
I think some Republicans might want to get rid of him before he takes down the whole party.
December 17th, 2005 at 7:36 am#34, Whew!
December 17th, 2005 at 8:06 amI am glad you validated that for me — I thought it was a joke, but usually it is easier to determine that. In this case, considering the two people involved, there was too much possible truth in it to laugh it off without question.
Thhis will not be investigated in the senate as long as you have senators like Kyl, Brownback, Sanatarium, Lott, Sessions, Thune, et al., ruling the roost.
They love their dictator.
ZEIG HEIL!
December 17th, 2005 at 10:09 amWow, all these polite exchanges and no neocons… guys we really should do this much more often!!!
December 17th, 2005 at 12:13 pmWhat could the neocons say in defense? ‘Sure, Bush abused his constitutional authority, but he did it for our own good!’ Sure, just like Uncle Joe Stalin.
Or else — worse — they’ll lie and claim it’s legal.
December 19th, 2005 at 6:49 pm