Cheney: Warrentless Wiretapping ‘Might Have Led Us To Prevent 9/11′
Cheney: Warrentless Wiretapping ‘Might Have Led Us To Prevent 9/11′
Vice President Cheney from tonight’s Nightline:
It’s the kind of capability [that], if we’d had before 9/11, might have led us to be able to prevent 9/11.
We had two 9/11 terrorists in San Diego prior to the attack in contact with al Qaeda sources outside the U.S. We didn’t know it. The 9/11 Commission talks about it. If we’d had this capability, then we might well have been able to stop it.
This is false and sensational. The secret surveillance program authorized by President Bush did not provide the National Security Agency any new “capability.”
The NSA “already had the capacity to read your mail and your e-mail and listen to your telephone conversations. All it had to do was obtain a warrant from a special court created for this purpose. The burden of proof for obtaining a warrant was relaxed a bit after 9/11, but even before the attacks the court hardly ever rejected requests.” Indeed, from 1979 to 2002, the FISA court issued 15,264 surveillance warrants. Not a single warrant application was rejected.
Nothing in the law pre-9/11 prevented the federal government from conducting surveillance operations on terrorists. Cheney simply can’t resist using that tragedy to shield himself from criticism.
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IMPEACH!!!!!!!! Then let the Hague have a swing at them…
December 19th, 2005 at 12:02 pmThats all I got… way too mad and dis-allusioned to think right now…
These people want to rule, not govern. They can’t dump the constitution fast enough.
On the other hand, they may suspect there are rotten eggs in FISA courts that tip off terrorists.
By no means, does this justify simply ignoring the law.
We have a Preznit not a dictator, king monarch, supreme ruler or other despot, but it’s sure beginning to resemble other Fourth World toilets around here.
December 19th, 2005 at 12:05 pmWhen in doubt, blame Clinton.
December 19th, 2005 at 12:45 pmYes, it was a ‘word press’ message. I believe their server was down for maintenence/lock mode/etc.
It was short lived. Lasted maybe 10 minutes?
December 19th, 2005 at 12:46 pmCheck out Bob Graham on http://www.billpressshow.com hot stuff
December 19th, 2005 at 12:48 pmClinton messed up the server? Was it wearing a blue dress?
December 19th, 2005 at 12:50 pmCensurship ! www ,did you this ,sabotage our freedom garantied by the 1st and 2nd amensement .
December 19th, 2005 at 12:50 pmMaybe ACTING on Daily CIA Briefs like “Bin Laden Determined to Strike US” would have prevented 911.
December 19th, 2005 at 12:51 pmHeh. Now THAT’S getting the government off the backs of the people!
Americans must like this kind of stuff though because I don’t see any big mobs of people with pitchforks and torches swarming the streets.
December 19th, 2005 at 12:52 pm2006,wake up bushie, you just killed your own party. Does your ego think you can’t be impeached?…start packing NOW.
December 19th, 2005 at 12:52 pmDuring ww2 under the german occuation , This was their favorite word , VORBOTEN !
December 19th, 2005 at 12:53 pm#12 — Now I get it. Let’s criticize Bush for NOT ACTING on pre-9/11 intelligence and then crtiticize him for ACTING on post-9/11 Iraq intelligence. Makes sense to me.
December 19th, 2005 at 12:54 pm#12 — Now I get it. Let’s criticize Bush for NOT ACTING on pre-9/11 intelligence and then crtiticize him for ACTING on post-9/11 Iraq intelligence. Makes sense to me.
Comment by cynicon implant
Nothing makes sense to you. You have terminal pretzel logic and rhetorical hemorrhoids from sitting on your brain all day long and twisting it into those awful contortions so it’s in accord with your small intestine.
December 19th, 2005 at 1:06 pm#16 CI…how about this…let’s criticize him for breaking the law post 9/11 by not using the legal methods available. Please point out somebody who is against the wiretaps per se. The issue is that he did it ILLEGALLY.
December 19th, 2005 at 1:10 pm#16, how about acting on intelligence while following the law? The checks and balances of the court order is essential for keeping the executive in check. If the law isn’t right, change it, work with congress. Don’t go around it like a dictator. I don’t think american troops are fighting to protect Bush’s power, or his crushing the constitution.
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December 19th, 2005 at 2:10 pmhey, they could have talked about it at Cheney’s Terrorism task force – if they had only met!
Dick Cheney is partially responsible for the failures on 9/11 – yet he will not take any responsibility.
Party of personal responsibility? Adults in charge? Clinton destroyed our military? All lies.
December 19th, 2005 at 2:10 pmPlease seek to impeach the President. Let’s do this now, before the mid-terms and see what the American people think about it. The radical left has overplayed their hand and it’s time to punish them with their own hate.
While we’re at it, the Senate needs to start investigating Harry Reid and Byron Dorgan’s ties to Jack Abrahamoff. We cannot allow Democrats to continue this culture of corruption.
December 19th, 2005 at 3:52 pm#16 – thank you. Bush cannot be asleep at the wheel and a fascist war criminal. I love watching the left go nuts. Their political obit is practically writing itself. After we get the Court back, that will be the nail in liberalism’s coffin.
December 19th, 2005 at 3:54 pmSunset Bush
December 19, 2005
On Saturday (Dec. 17), President Bush admitted that he authorized those warrantless (remember that word) surveillances, spying on more than three dozen times since late 2001. That trashing the 4th Amendment, which forbids unreasonable searches and probable cause; therefore violating The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). Bush could have the right to use FISA only by notifying Congress first by expanding it—which he didn’t. And there’s Cheney’s fat lie saying that if this surveillance program was in placed earlier 9/11 wouldn’t have happen, which is total bunk. From 1979 to 2002, the FISA court issued 15,264 surveillance warrants and not a single warrant was rejected. Another fib that’s making the rounds is that Bush needed to skirt the normal process of getting court-approved search warrants for the surveillance because it was too slow for the fast-paced counterterrorism investigations. More bunk since the government was able to get an emergency warrant from the secret court within an hours or just minutes. But more to the point: under Section 1805 of FISA Bush could have began wiretapping as soon as it determines a need and can wait up to 72 hours before obtaining a warrant and Bush didn’t bother with that under the existing special program. Our president’s boat is slowing sinking into the sunset with Bush in it. Translation: IMPEACH
December 19th, 2005 at 4:02 pm#25 your general hate for the democratic party is blinding you. This is an actual crime. You should thank us for standing up for your civil liberties… come to think of it why are you still sitting down? Join us. Impeach!
December 19th, 2005 at 4:06 pmHere I would have thought that an FBI memo titled “Ben Laden to Strike US” should have prevented 9/11. Silly me.
December 19th, 2005 at 4:06 pmDoesn’t this parallel the VP’s appearance with Tim Russert on Meet the Press, where he quotes the NY Times and judy miller as supporting his argument? Really, look at the post south of this one a couple and Bill Kristol announces, This is what connect the dots is. Nobility has not run amok. I think it is ironic that the Democrats get blamed for not doing anything with the power the GOP knows they don’t have.Ie; FIH’s comment about the radical left. Yeah they are ruthless aren’t they? Please name one agenda the Radical Left currently has in the form of legitation that shows this over playing of their hand that requires them to be punished with so much triumph? Off Topic cont.. I’ll trade you one Harry Reid /Abraham trading card for one Ralph Reed/ Abraham one. You can keep Byron& Jack.
December 19th, 2005 at 4:07 pmCheney: Warrentless Wiretapping ‘Might Have Led Us To Prevent 9/11′
RIGHT! How about all of those REPORTS they IGNORED about possible terrorist attacks using our planes?
December 19th, 2005 at 4:07 pm#30 Normal thinking people understand that the 9-11 attack was an inside job. There was absolutely nothing anyone could have done to prevent it except the perpetrator himself, George W. Bush.
December 19th, 2005 at 4:13 pm#29 – very good points. The radical left is trying to derail the War on Terror so they can trash Bush. My problem is not that we might not win the war – I pray we do, but accept that Bush has made errors. Rather, the left WANTS to lose the war. Plain and simple. AND you take some two-bit wiretapping story agaisnt TERRORISTS to attack the President one short year after you based Kerry’s election on “the Aug 6th memo proves Bush was asleep at the wheel.” You are so blinded with hatred you can’t even form consistent propoganda. IT’s tiring.
AND yes, I want impeachment hearings. I want Democrats on record voting yes or no. I am sick of the cowards making vicious claims they will NEVER back up votes. Let’s have hearings. Let’s do this.
December 19th, 2005 at 4:15 pmDick Cheney is a War Criminal and should not be consulted on matters of National Security.
December 19th, 2005 at 4:18 pmHe and his are responsible for 9-11. Whether they knew it was coming and did nothing, or they were part of the conspiracy through their own actions, either way, he’s guilty. His priority is laundering money, tremendous amounts of money. So freaking much money, most of us can’t understand the amount.
Let the treason be exposed, prepare the guillotine.
#33 – prepare the guillotine for your treason. You should be forced to live in Tehran with hateful comments like that.
December 19th, 2005 at 4:21 pmHe was “asleep at the wheel”! And why do you have to ilegally wiretap when you can do it legally? Its mindboggling… unless you think hey maybe pres bush wanted to wiretap people a court would not approve of… again you should thank us for shedding light on a troubling policy. Not to mention illegal
December 19th, 2005 at 4:22 pmWait…is this a new Limbannity parrot in our midst? Let’s see…reading comment 24, 25, 32…Why yes, I think it is.
Hey FiaH: Here’s a cracker, you parrot.
December 19th, 2005 at 4:23 pm#35 – if he went to Court, that info could be made public. I know liberals don’t understand the basics of war, but you usually don’t tell your enemies your intentions when trying to beat them. OF course, you have to wanna win the war for that to be hold and we all know the left is praying for defeat.
December 19th, 2005 at 4:25 pm#36 – answer the question. How many Democrats do you think will vote for impeachment BEFORE the mid-term elections?
You can’t answer it. The Democrats (the folks that represent you) are cowards with no convictions. They would never vote for impeachment before an election because they know they will get at the polls (red states, that is)!!
December 19th, 2005 at 4:26 pmGeez…obnoxious and stupid…the FISA court is a secret court.
Please…have another cracker.
December 19th, 2005 at 4:26 pmI do not beleive the lack of support for the war by the American, left? is some how going to corrupt the alliances that will soon form after the Iraqi elections are totaled. How can we be blaming the Left for operations which they have no influence other than their opinion. Don’t take the left down with you if you are so sure their cry is inevitable. Just hammering them with blame for something that is not even going to happen seems like a smoke secreen for something. The VP is busy guy isn’t he? How can we lose a war that will never end? I guess the GOP is the party of smaller govt. especially the part the citizens control, huh?
December 19th, 2005 at 4:27 pmSeems like those terrorists who “hate our freedoms” have won–our freedoms are going away faster than Bush ran when he was putting distance between himself and Kenny Boy Lay a few years back.
December 19th, 2005 at 4:31 pmI have to leave now. You people are so pathetic and detached from reality that I can’t possibly sit here in good faith and make fun of you anymore. You should get some help. While you are writing up articles of impeachment, I’ll be working on a strategy to use this wiretapping to choke Democrats as the gutless bunch they are on this War on Terror.
Thanks again!!
December 19th, 2005 at 4:34 pmIm sure his strategy will be quickly implemented… what a loon
December 19th, 2005 at 4:39 pmHah, FiaH claimed the FISA court was public and that the suspects would know about it, someone calls him on the massive idiocy that he must require to so totally misunderstand the issues and hand, and he leaves, calling everyone else “detached”. Yeah. Fun.
What’s really gutless is that exit, FiaH.
December 19th, 2005 at 4:42 pmI am depressed, my friends of the Right and Left. None of you appear very interested in letting the facts determine the outcome. You are all only interested in further strengthening your opinions.
I say and have always said, that if a politician I support commits a serious crime, or lies to me about substantive issues (not about what he and his girfriend did behind closed doors), I will reject him myself and not support him any longer.
In short, as a believer in Democracy and Justice, I know that no one is above the law, even people I like and support. Yet I have not heard of any republican at this site saying, “let’s get all the facts and if the president committed a felony, then I want him out of there, because this country is based on the rule of law.” All I hear is how treasonous or stupid liberals are.
My ethical standard is this: Regardless of party, every elected official is required to protect and defend the constitution. This also means ABIDING BY THE CONSTITUTION. The presidency does not come with the power to order secret surveillance without a warrant. Period. I don’t care who attacked us or when. We’ve been at war lots of times before and never had to remove the checks on presidential power to win.
This president wants to remove this important limit to king-like excesses of power. He cannot be allowed to portray the blatant disregard for the law as business as usual. There is no America beyond the Law, and any official who violates the law of the land ought to be removed – forcefully, if necessary.
Anyone of integrity would not dream of covering up his own favorite politician’s misdeeds.
That’s a high standard but achievable.
Today it’s all about winning the war of the two-party system, and Republicans are masters at winning that game using smear, scandal, jamming Democratic phone lines and engaging in illegal Gerrymandering schemes.
The problem is, while we tear each other to pieces, acual work that needs doing goes undone.
Where’s Osama?
December 19th, 2005 at 4:43 pmThank you for your Flaming Exit of Fear RFH. Bring back some reasonable less pithy accusations noir, tomorrow! Again Cheney is a busy guy isn’t he? Come on, when is Syria going to get it? Right after Alito is sworn in? OT… Hey can Bush pull a recess appointment for the Supreme court? Did they wire tap Rudi Dekker and his flight school? First one to the Able Danger hearings gets a free pardon from the home Team. I hope it’s not too ugly.
December 19th, 2005 at 4:47 pmGood-Bye Karl!
Congressman calls for Bush impeachment
The Associated Press – ATLANTA
U.S. Rep. John Lewis said Monday in a radio interview that President Bush should be impeached if he broke the law in authorizing spying on Americans.
The Democratic senator from Georgia told WAOK-AM he would sign a bill of impeachment if one was drawn up and that the House of Representatives should consider such a move.
Lewis is among several Democrats who have voiced discontent with Sunday night’s television speech, where Bush asked Americans to continue to support the Iraq War. Lewis is the first major House figure to suggest impeaching Bush.
“Its a very serious charge, but he violated the law,” said Lewis, a former civil rights leader. “The president should abide by the law. He deliberately, systematically violated the law. He is not King, he is president.”
December 19th, 2005 at 5:09 pmThe 2nd Amendment has been repealed , by a conservative Republican. LMAO! Dumbass rubes!
December 19th, 2005 at 5:11 pm#44 – He is clueless. He will, however, be back. His type always comes crawling back. But with a new name, of course.
And too bad he would rather spend time “strangling” than doing something constructive and helping someone.
Neocons are really mean folks with anger issues.
December 19th, 2005 at 5:14 pmWhy does the Right always seem to interpret anti-war messages as hate for America? Is it possible to disagree with the current war, and still love America? Maybe the dissenters strongly believe this war has little to do with national security, and love America enough to want to stop it?
This has little to do with love, or hate for America. These Rightys are so black and white, wanting to simplify complex issues.
So to you simple little children who call yourselves Republicans, these issues are much more complex than you are seeing them. If you Repubs were a little more secure with yourselves, didn’t take differing opinions so personally, didn’t fear anything that is not exactly like you are, and had an original thought, you may understand all the grey area here. It’s not a matter of either we love or hate America, or we are with with you or against you. Which is putting people in a position of either-or, and nothing in the middle.
That type of narrowminded inflexability is what we want to save America from, because we love it so much.
December 19th, 2005 at 5:17 pmWe had two 9/11 terrorists in San Diego prior to the attack in contact with al Qaeda sources outside the U.S. We didn’t know it.
If he’s talking here about the same two guys I think he is, those two guys were met at an airport by someone who gave them a ride into town, let them stay with him while they found their own place and introduced them to a someone at a mosque who sympathized with the terrorists. Oh yeah, the guy who was showing them all this Muslim hospitality was an FBI informant! (See Sen Bob Graham’s Intelligence Matters
And the Vice President’s pants appear to be on fire again, as the FISA court would have been more than happy to rubber-stamp any wiretap they wanted, and they did not need the PATRIOT Act to do it.
December 19th, 2005 at 5:27 pmFor Truth,
Republicans are such hypocrites. They themselves have historically been the biggest opponents of military actions, and by their own measure are completely anti-american.
I can produce boat loads of this crap, but here are just a few of the ‘anti-american’ statements by republicans.
“President Clinton is once again releasing American military might on a foreign country with an ill-defined objective and no exit strategy. He has yet to tell the Congress how much this operation will cost. And he has not informed our nation’s armed forces about how long they will be away from home. These strikes do not make for a sound foreign policy.”
-Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA)
“If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy.”
-Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of presidential candidate George W. Bush
“I had doubts about the bombing campaign from the beginning…I didn’t think we had done enough in the diplomatic area.”
-Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)
“You think Vietnam was bad? Vietnam is nothing next to Kosovo.”
-Tony Snow, Fox News 3/24/99
“Well, I just think it’s a bad idea. What’s going to happen is they’re going to be over there for 10, 15, maybe 20 years”
-Joe Scarborough (R-FL)
“I’m on the Senate Intelligence Committee, so you can trust me and believe me when I say we’re running out of cruise missles. I can’t tell you exactly how many we have left, for security reasons, but we’re almost out of cruise missles.”
-Senator Inhofe (R-OK)
“I cannot support a failed foreign policy. History teaches us that it is often easier to make war than peace. This administration is just learning that lesson right now. The President began this mission with very vague objectives and lots of unanswered questions. A month later, these questions are still unanswered. There are no clarified rules of engagement. There is no timetable. There is no legitimate definition of victory. There is no contingency plan for mission creep. There is no clear funding program. There is no agenda to bolster our overextended military. There is no explanation defining what vital national interests are at stake. There was no strategic plan for war when the President started this thing, and there still is no plan today”
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)
December 19th, 2005 at 5:35 pmAnd here are some great ones from that anti-american crooks, Tom Delay and that Nazi Bigot Trent Lott…
“You can support the troops but not the president”
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)
“My job as majority leader is be supportive of our troops, try to have input as decisions are made and to look at those decisions after they’re made … not to march in lock step with everything the president decides to do.”
-Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)
For us to call this a victory and to commend the President of the United States as the Commander in Chief showing great leadership in Operation Allied Force is a farce”
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)
December 19th, 2005 at 5:36 pmFunny, I thought if dumbya had learned to listen or read he would have seen that memo that kinda-sleezy-rice was so proud of…..”Bin Laden determined to strike inside the U.S.”
I know that chimpy saw and heard about it, I suppose it just wasn’t shiny enough to keep his attention. Next time it should be chrome plated.
Krash-Kart-cheeney should have alerted his monkey king to the threat. But is is so much more fun for him to blame the U.S. Constitution for their failures and war mongering.
Get ready to hear these words: Are your papers in order? (will they use the trademark german accent this time?)
December 19th, 2005 at 5:37 pm#18, and dumbya lied, lies about it.
Boy why won’t someone give dumbya a big ole B.J. so we can FINALLY CHIMPEACH HIM?
December 19th, 2005 at 5:40 pmGee Mr. VP, I would think that memo of about a month before 9/11, what said al Qaida was going to use airplanes to attack, would have been ample warning, From what I recall, it didn’t come from a wire tap.
These people need to be held accountable for all the contradictions they speak.
December 19th, 2005 at 5:43 pmThink Progress details on FISA
Think Progress has awesome information about FISA. The NSA “already had the capacity to read your mail and your e-mail and listen to your telephone conversations. All it had to do was obtain a warrant from a special court created…
December 19th, 2005 at 5:47 pmComment by nofreedom! — December 19, 2005 @ 12:43 pm
Comment by HOT! TIP! — December 19, 2005 @ 12:44 pm
Comment by sarcasm-impaired ASSOCIATIONme too — December 19, 2005 @ 12:44 pm
I know this isn’t news to the Progressives, but thought the deceptive neocon above would like to see that he’s posted proof that he is simply one troll trying to appear like a bastion of these three wingnuts plus several personality disorders more… So much for your moral superiority a.k.a. God.
December 19th, 2005 at 5:47 pmDoes anyone beside wwingnut believe anything that Cheney says?
Mohammed Atta met with Iraqi intelligence in Prague.
That’s been pretty well proven.
Insurgency is in its last throes.
Saddam is trying to re-constitute his nuclear weapons program.
Lies, lies, and more lies from the mouth of our Vice President.
December 19th, 2005 at 5:50 pmThe Democrats (the folks that represent you) are cowards with no convictions.
As opposed to the party with no ethics, but lots of indictments. HA
December 19th, 2005 at 5:51 pmWhy does the Right always seem to interpret anti-war messages as hate for America?
Easy, you get to denigrate someone by impugning their patriotism, and wrap yourself, and your actions, in the flag simultatneously. How convenient.
Is it possible to disagree with the current war, and still love America?
Undoubtedly. If we didn’t care, we wouldn’t be saying this is wrong.
Maybe the dissenters strongly believe this war has little to do with national security, and love America enough to want to stop it?
December 19th, 2005 at 6:05 pmIndeed. Good luck selling that one to the Kool-Aid brigade.
If we’d had this capability, then we might well have been able to stop it
Dickey, what do you mean “capability?” You did have this capability then. There was nothing to stop you from doing it illegally then just like you are now!!!! Don’t you think after the famous “Bin Laden determined to attack inside US” breifing would have been a good time????
YOU COULD HAVE PREVENTED 9/11 – YOU DIRTY TRAITOR!!!!
Of course I don’t support illegal wiretapping, but geez Dickey, don’t say such stupid things!
December 19th, 2005 at 6:18 pmIf you don’t hold us accountable for any mistakes we can save from fear. So those of you who don’t want to be saved must not be truthful, let alone American. Who has the keys to the car? I’m out of the trunk and crawling to the hood to let Mr. Vision know I think were going to crash. He has become Toonces. And we now how thoses all end.
December 19th, 2005 at 6:28 pmThey HAD the information in the form of a memo that the terrorists were going to hit a building with a plane prior to 9/11! remember? Condi and others chose to ignore it for some little reason. Were they afraid they would anger Geo W?
December 19th, 2005 at 8:55 pm#64 Yeah, they didn’t want to disrupt his vacation… Apparently his golf swing was more important.
December 19th, 2005 at 9:29 pmYes, but although FISA never turned down a request for a warrant, it is questionable that they would have approved one for eavesdropping on the conversations of Joe and Valerie Wilson.
December 20th, 2005 at 1:27 amHey gang,
Let’s all give it a rest. We’ve got so many smoking guns against the incompetence, corruption, malfeasance, and treason of the Bushites my asthma is flaring. The question is how do we purge our country of these bastards and witches (I’m such a gentleman).
Daily Kos has a poster who has a GREAT idea, just put up fliers, posters, wear t-shirts any visual aids we can utilize with (in big bold letters ) the word “IMPEACH!”, nothing else.
I think that’s a good starter before ‘06.
December 20th, 2005 at 9:07 amThe i word . Is that the new albatros to hang on the liberal blogs. Where is randy and his The left want’s to lose the war. He didn’t respond to my question How can you lose a war that has no end? Here is a greta item: Enjoywww.huffingtonpost.com/kristen-breitweiser/the-kings-red-herring_b_12589.html
December 20th, 2005 at 9:33 amHas any one gone to SUSAN’s queen of the I parade link ? The opening premise is a little to overly suggestive in content. Quite an opinion, with nothing other than links all to obvious Left outlets. Let them vacum your personal info away at no charge. And what have THEY actually given you.?This is pure blog chum.
December 20th, 2005 at 9:39 amThe White House just didn’t act on the information it had before 9/11, so now they claim that if they had used these methods, they coulda woulda, yada yada yada…. Cheney, if you will, is in his own last throes. He can’t continue to lie forever without paying the price, although he is cerainly giving it a try. He consistently mixes data, adds his own misrepresentation, and calls it fact.
December 20th, 2005 at 3:04 pmWhen will justice prevail? Can’t we get a soap opera with W sitting next to Saddam for the same crimes? I mean everytime I heard this guy discuss the great threat in Iraw and even now with torture, killing of thousands of Iraqis, it is like hearing him talk about himself. PROJECTION! just substitute Saddam with W and listen to the sentances! It’s so comically sick!!!
January 2nd, 2006 at 1:26 amThe September 11 myth
I wrote yesterday about President Bush’s failure to avoid preventable disasters, including the Sago mine tragedy. In doing so, I mentioned the administration’s penchant for spin and obfuscation. Avoiding answers, while bad enough, is but one of their…
January 5th, 2006 at 6:46 pm[...] As this page points out, ‘the NSA “already had the capacity to read your mail and your e-mail and listen to your telephone conversations. All it had to do was obtain a warrant from a special court created for this purpose. The burden of proof for obtaining a warrant was relaxed a bit after 9/11, but even before the attacks the court hardly ever rejected requests.” Indeed, from 1979 to 2002, the FISA court issued 15,264 surveillance warrants. Not a single warrant application was rejected.’ [...]
January 15th, 2006 at 7:07 amI am so happy to know that there are only a few people in this nation who do not have the common sense to really be knowledgeable about what is really going on in this country and around the world. This is because most of you little punks do not take the time to make sure you have the correct information before you make a statement from your hubristic mouths. Do you believe what you are saying?: 9/11 was a conspiracy, you compare Bush with Saddam, sago mine. What next? Will you blame the tooth fairy too? Do all us grown ups who take the time to find out the truth, and shut the hell up. And, read this book “The politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades), so you can go piss your pants. SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR YOUR COUNTRY, SUPPORT IT, AND MAKE IT BETTER. Don’t bother to vote, if you don’t know what or who you are voting for; you mess it up for those who do know the truth.
From: grow up Americans
August 24th, 2006 at 9:17 pmUs Prevent Bankruptcy Court
Interesting – because that is the same thing I found out last Thursday.
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