On Sunday night, Frist and Hastert inserted an stealth provision into the 2006 Defense Appropriations spending report “that protects vaccine manufacturers from product liability claims in the event of a viral pandemic, such as one caused by avian flu.” But not only is this provision unrelated to defense appropriations spending, it was inserted after conferees had signed off on the report and will benefit foreign-owned corporations:
Observers familiar with the procedural history of conference reports said that they were unaware of any precedent for inserting language after conferees had signed off on the report. … If the law is applied as Frist and other supporters intend, it will represent enormous financial relief for a small group of largely foreign-owned pharmaceutical companies that have worked to promote vaccine liability protection.
Sanofi Pasteur, one of the corporations set to gain from Frist’s provision, has given $5,000 to the senator’s PAC.
What a couple of slimy bastards. How much stock do they own in these outfits?
December 20th, 2005 at 6:08 pmHow can this be done, and what can be done to stop it?
December 20th, 2005 at 6:09 pmZ.
Nice picture. Looks like he’s all dressed up in his costume and about to make a video diagnosis.
December 20th, 2005 at 6:12 pmJust like the very similar story, which I’m sure you remember, from last year where the secret rider was found in the Homeland Security Bill. It would have specifically protected Eli Lilly from lwasuits over vaccine ingredients—they were at the time being threatened by such a lawsuit. Nobody would even cop to putting the rider in there until finally a retiring Senator said he did it.
December 20th, 2005 at 6:13 pmYou’d think with his being under investigation ALREADY, he have a bit more brains than to pull such a sleaze act.
BTW: The pic just screams caption contest….
December 20th, 2005 at 6:13 pm“I did not have sex with that monkey!”
December 20th, 2005 at 6:13 pmSorry–not last year, but in 2002.
December 20th, 2005 at 6:15 pmArianna wrote about the 2002 story in Salon. Frist was up to his kneepads in that one too.
December 20th, 2005 at 6:19 pm#3 – he IS making a diagnosis. He feels that his Pharmaceutical stock just went up 40%! Wow.
December 20th, 2005 at 6:19 pm#3 – Nah, he’s getting ready to slice up his adopted kitty. Run, kitty, run!!
December 20th, 2005 at 6:29 pmWhen exactly is this criminal activity going to stop? Have they no shame? Every day it’s something new with these Republicans.
December 20th, 2005 at 6:31 pmbush=professional destructionists
December 20th, 2005 at 6:46 pmwhat can I get for $5000?
December 20th, 2005 at 7:01 pmNice picture of him.
He looks like Dr Death.
December 20th, 2005 at 7:03 pmIs that lunch in his hands or a baby’s heart or both.
December 20th, 2005 at 7:06 pmCornyn lying his ass off on Situation Room right now……oh boy.
December 20th, 2005 at 7:22 pmHey! I think that’s Chimpus Bushco’s brain in his hands. Probably inserting a smaller one so he can be faster and quicker when he chases down them there terrrrists.
December 20th, 2005 at 7:26 pmDoes this protect Rumsfeld’s flu-vaccine company?
And shouldn’t we extend this to include Aspartame, another one of Rummy’s chemical gifts to mankind?
December 20th, 2005 at 7:31 pmAh, these rider stories remind me of the good ole days before, torture, secret prisons, illegal spying on citizens, fascism, illegal wars, treason, and gross incompetence in response of natural dissaters.
What are the chances of having only to be outraged by cronie-rider legistlation once again?
December 20th, 2005 at 7:38 pmThis is just standard operating procedure for the corrupt congress we are now stuck with. If everyone would pull their head out of their asses and vote these bastards out office, and take back America, maybe in a couple of hundred years, we could enjoy prosperity again.
December 20th, 2005 at 7:38 pmWhat the hell is going on? Do they think that because they are going to be taken down soon they should try to help themselves to as much as they can before it happens?
December 20th, 2005 at 7:44 pmIsn’t Frist in enough trouble already? Only he knows how much trouble he is in at this juncture, so perhaps he is feathering his nest for the future. Hastert — well the guy is a fat-boy sleazey pol.
Every week there is something new, some power that they abuse, some procedure that they ignore — this cannot be allowed to continue.
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December 20th, 2005 at 7:54 pmThis rang a bell; I believe what Frist is actually doing is selling out autistic kids and their parents for a bag of shells to the GOP. This was just his end of the bargain:
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/33/11926
He’s personally taken in more than a million dollars from the pharmaceutical companies to limit the size of, or exempt them from, more than 4,000 lawsuits filed by parents of autistic children who are suing on the grounds that thimerosol (a preservative used in vaccines that contains mercury) caused their childrens’ autism. There is substantial evidence that they’re correct. Avian Bird Flu? A red herring; Frist knows where the big money is and, like any good Republican, will sell out the American public for pennies on the dollar.
December 20th, 2005 at 7:56 pmI don’t believe in vaccines. Never had em and rarely catch a common cold.
December 20th, 2005 at 8:01 pm#24 Good on ya, but Jonas Salk et al. deserve some credit; more than some actually.
December 20th, 2005 at 8:10 pmFor the record, I never said Terri Schaivo was alive. I said she was alive enough.
December 20th, 2005 at 8:11 pmI’m waiting for Bush to sleep with an intern. Hey, if Clinton can get positive ratings with sex scandal, maybe it’ll work for Georgie!
December 20th, 2005 at 8:14 pmTreasons Greetings all….
Monkey boy king dumbya looks as if he has his hand caught in the impeachment wringer!
Merry Fitzmas to all…
Back on track, I do not believe in vaccines either. I rarely get the common cold either.
But I do think it is odd that they want to slip this provision in very quitely. It screams that the vaccines themselves are quite dangerous and they expect to be sued over their use.
If you know something might be wrong for the people, why do they go ahead and do it anyway? one word: MONEY.
December 20th, 2005 at 8:18 pmA lot of people say they don’t “believe” in vacines – but most of us grew up with them, so we don’t know what we are missing in suffering and heartbreak. Before the polio and TB vaccines, my mother remembers losing two or three classmates each year to those diseases.
December 20th, 2005 at 8:31 pmWould you want to gamble with your life, or your childs’?
But this thimerosol sounds like bad news. Hopefully there will at least be a way to prove if it the problem in autism, so that parents can make an intelligent decision to vaccinate or not. And maybe a non-thimerosol version would be released in that case.
By the way, I won’t be on line much for a week, so happy holidays to all my fellow commentors! It is a great pleasure to read your input and be part of this online discussion. It has helped me immeasurably to understand so much that I couldn’t find info on before.
Did everyone donate to TP yet? I did, got my book already, it is swell! and it’s my brother’s Xmas present!
Wishing you a peaceful and warm holiday season – Merry Fitzmas!
Judd,
will you please report IRI to the FBI? he’s making death threats again.
December 20th, 2005 at 8:40 pmLet us not forget the shares owned by none other than Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, in the company that just happens to be the only one that can produce the vaccine they feel will protect against the Avian Flu virus. Gawd these people (and I use the term loosely)are just foul. Sick and wrong.
December 20th, 2005 at 8:41 pmSKdeA wrote, and I agree.
Recently I have read a lot about Thimerosol and it is not good. (Years ago, contact lens solutions were preserved with the stuff and it created a lot of eye troubles.) The evidence against Thimerosol in regards to autism is strong and certainly deserves intensive investigation. I am sure that the pharmaceutical companies are very well aware of the potential damage from the preservative (many childhood vaccines are already being non-mercury preserved)and it seems quite credible to me that TruthOut has the facts on the reason for this despicable behavior by Frist.
December 20th, 2005 at 8:47 pmHow’d you like to see that coming at you with a bone saw in it’s hand?
December 20th, 2005 at 8:51 pm4,000 lawsuits filed by parents of autistic children who are suing on the grounds that thimerosol
I heard a report just the other day that the amount of children with autism is at epedemic proportions.
Now we know why.
SkydeA, I do agree with you but my nieces and nephews have had serious reactions to todays vacinations. My sister refused to vacinate her youngest and the school refused to allow him in school. She got a doctors note saying that because of family history, he recommends the vaccine not be given. The kid got in school without the vaccine.
December 20th, 2005 at 9:40 pmSusan, maybe you should take them to a different veterinarian.
December 20th, 2005 at 9:54 pmFWIW, the vaccines containing thimerosol have been banned in this country for a couple years; guess where they went? Yes, the third world, where they’re believed to have caused an explosion of autism in China, which previously had almost never heard of it. Lots of interesting reading to follow up on this, but the proof is in the pudding: we’ll all watch and see if the rate of autism in this country drops dramatically in the next 3 years, now that the vaccines are out of use.
December 20th, 2005 at 10:10 pmOn another note, why on earth does Bill Frist want to be a politician? He certainly doesn’t need the money from his crooked doings, and he’s sure not about the public good in any way. Just power-tripping? I don’t think he’s clean enough to run for president any more…
wwallace demostrates how psychopaths have no compassion for the suffering of others – that’s why they become terrorists, murderers and torturers.
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unlike you wwallace, they ARE Human. I guess this explains your irrational behavior. what kind of animal did you say you was?
Susan, maybe you should take them to a different veterinarian.
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December 20th, 2005 at 10:17 pmwwallace, who is your Vet?
December 20th, 2005 at 10:18 pmAnd why not try to sneak in Artic drilling while you are at it? Oh yeah, the Republicans did that already! The shameless get what they deserve in the long run, and for those who are incompetent it comes quicker.
December 20th, 2005 at 10:18 pmwwallace, have you ever been given rabid shots?
December 20th, 2005 at 10:19 pmwwallace is used to vets, with him being a jackass :()
December 20th, 2005 at 10:20 pmDang #22,
I didn’t think of that one!
December 20th, 2005 at 10:21 pm#22. Actually , there is a killer virus that has been supposedly wiped out. our GREAT Scientest have RECENTLY Discovered (copycat)and made that Virus. Its supposedly worse than any other cold viruss known to man.
December 20th, 2005 at 10:29 pmthere was a story on it recently. they were estatic about the discovery.
#22, oh yea, that discovery was made somewhere in Lousiana.
December 20th, 2005 at 10:31 pm#43, and #37, Ryan, you’re absolutely right about ww.
December 20th, 2005 at 10:31 pm#22. You could be Right about that . seriously. But, becarefull. it just might kill you too.
December 20th, 2005 at 10:32 pmHere is an interesting recent article which does a nice job of dismantling the argument that there is no connection between vaccinations and an increasing autism rate. The link is:
http://www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDaily/view.php?StoryID=20051204-060313-6829r
We have an obligation to hold these governmental puppets accountable for their servitude to special interests…
December 20th, 2005 at 10:37 pmThese guys make me sick. How can they tell themselves this kind of stuff is what they were elected to do?
The People need to rise up and assert their sovereignty and throw out these big shots, take our country back!
December 20th, 2005 at 10:49 pmCaption under Fritsies picture. Head staph infector….
December 21st, 2005 at 1:05 amOkay, I thought the point of creating a product of exacting standards was tantamount to good business? Sorry, PROPER business? If you make a shitty product that harms people, you should be held liable for it. It’s obscene and morally reprehensible to protect manufacturers from being held responsible for faulty and dangerous products. I’m . . .I’m so mad I c. . .can’t go on. . .MOTHERF%#@!&*!!!
December 21st, 2005 at 7:18 amAnd then people wonder why there has been so many cases coming forward of drugs being approved for market that haven’t been properly tested for harmful side effects.
This is the ONLY possible reason for legislation like this. To protect pharmaceutical/vaccine companies that rush drugs/vaccines to market without properly testing how dangerous they may actually be. Allowing these companies to quickly cash in on an outbreak and not worry about potential “legal side effects” of their unethical actions.
December 21st, 2005 at 9:25 amI know this is a little late posting on yesterdays thread, but on the issue of vaccines:
they do still use either separately or both mercury compounds or formaldehyde as bacteriacides in injectable vaccines.
In Japan, they don’t start innoculating children until they are about 2-1/2 years old. The reasoning being that both mercury and formaldehyde are processed by the liver (mercury less so) in order to protect the body. A newborn’s liver is so small, and not fully functional that there are those who feel it can’t cope fully with the compunds, and goes on to damage other tissues as well. The number of innoculations definitely has something to do with this. None the less, because Japan starts their innoculations when the childs liver is more fully formed and functional, their incidence of kids with developmental issues (primarily including but not limited to autism)is almost half that of kids in the US.
So I guess my point is that you should be considerate of WHICH vaccines you give your child, how those vaccines are given and when they are given in your kids life.
December 21st, 2005 at 10:22 amPS – I am a fan of the oral polio vaccine. but they don’t have to have it when they are newborns.
December 21st, 2005 at 10:24 amIn Japan, they don’t start innoculating children until they are about 2-1/2 years old.
I thought they switched back to 3 months or so … and saw an increase in autism.
My wife and I have decided to delay innoculations until our children are at least 2 (we’ll re-evaluate then). Given that for many of the diseases that the vaccinations are trying to prevent, the vaccine has a much greater chance of harming the infant/child than an un-vaccinated child has of being injured by the actual disease … this seems like a no brainer (but trying to explain that to my mother was next to impossible).
People don’t understand that while the vaccines may innoculate (which is to cause anti-bodies of the disease to be present) they don’t immunize (which is to render immune from the disease). BIG difference. No one (not even the CDC) has proven that the presence of anti-bodies for a disease means that the individual can no longer get the disease, but like 99% of the US population believes this.
One small example … the chicken pox vaccine is something around 50% effective and increases the chances of the individual getting shingles (way worse) later in life … not to worry though, a shingles vaccine is on the way (wonder what that one will cause).
December 21st, 2005 at 10:42 amHmmmm…. let’s see. They get to sell us whatever they want to call a vaccine. Put it in a vial or bottle and price it at… say, $500 each and make a huge profit (one of the reasons republicans live for). Nobody gets well and most others remain sick or die. And the company is protected above the welfare of the American people. And Bill Frist calls himself a doctor. The only doctor he compares to is Josef Mengele (the infamous Dr. Death of Nazi Germany notoriety).
What a lowlife scumbag.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:54 pm[...] The right wing objected to the move on the grounds that the committee “shouldn’t be legislating on an appropriations bill.” (They forget how Sen. Frist (R-TN) and Rep. Hastert (R-IL) did exactly that last year when they slipped liability protections for vaccine makers into a defense spending bill.) [...]
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