Conservative Judge Argues Bush Adminstration Lacks Credibility
Conservative Judge Argues Bush Adminstration Lacks Credibility
President Bush and other administration officials have argued that their secret wiretapping of American citizens was justified by the Authorization for the Use of Military Force passed by Congress in the days after 9/11. Today, one of the most respected conservative appellate judges in the nation – Micheal Luttig – delivered fresh evidence for why the administration’s use of the 9/11 Authorization cannot be trusted.
The issue before Luttig was whether to grant the Bush Administration’s request to dismiss an earlier opinion which gave the government broad authority to detain “enemy combatants†like terrorism suspect Jose Padilla.
Why would the administration want to curtail a decision that gave the President such broad authority? That’s the question that troubled the Court because the administration refused to provide an answer. Luttig’s opinion offers a clear insight into what the Administration thinks of checks and balances:
[The Bush Administration] provided no explanation as to what comprised the asserted exigency.
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We are not in a position to ascertain … because the government has not explained its decisions either publicly or to the court.
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The government has not offered explanation.
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales once hailed the Court’s prior Padilla ruling as providing the necessary presidential authority to protect “American citizens from the very kind of savage attack that took place [on 9/11].†Without a sufficient explanation for why the administration would now want to vacate that opinion, the Court was left to draw the conclusion that the administration lacks credibility on issues of executive power:
[The Bush Administration’s] actions have left not only the impression that Padilla may have been held for these years, even if justifiably, by mistake [but also] they have left the impression that the government may even have come to the belief that the principle in reliance upon which it has detained Padilla for this time…can, in the end, yield to expediency with little or no cost to its conduct of the war against terror … And these impressions have been left, we fear, at what may ultimately prove to be substantial cost to the government’s credibility before the courts.
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Congress shouldn’t pass the Patriot Act or anything else that enhances Bush’s powers until he starts being held accountable.
December 21st, 2005 at 7:28 pmAstonishing video here: http://www.atrios.blogspot.com/
Andrea Mitchell actually doing her job.
Must-see TV.
December 21st, 2005 at 7:44 pmRead this statement, it’s ridiculous. When did Congress give the Administration permission to use military force against the U.S.?
President Bush and other administration officials have argued that their secret wiretapping of American citizens was justified by the Authorization for the Use of Military Force by Congress.
December 21st, 2005 at 7:44 pmSusan,
An act of congress cannot subvert the constitutional provisions that protect americans, only an amendment to the constitution could do this. These ‘arguments’ by conservatives are baseless, juvenile, irrational and entirely without merit. There’s as non-factual as creationism, and just as lunatic to present as facts.
December 21st, 2005 at 7:47 pmHe’s a conservative like I’m a liberal yea right.
December 21st, 2005 at 7:47 pm#5, you hate conservatives now?
December 21st, 2005 at 7:58 pmI love how the trolls call people liberals when they stand up and point out that the administartion is breaking the law.
NewsMax ran a piece today claiming that the FISA judge that resigned over Bush’s secret wiretapping was a Clintonista. They fail to mention that it was George W. Bush that appointed Judge James Robertson to the FISA court on May 19th of 2002.
Just because somebody thinks Bush is breaking the law doesn’t make them a liberal. It means they support our Constitutions and laws that govern this great country.
December 21st, 2005 at 8:02 pmHe means that anyone who is not a right wing extremist like himself is a liberal.
December 21st, 2005 at 8:03 pmAn act of Congress can give the President the authority to search, sieze, imprison, and torture anyone – even Americans? No pilgrims, it can’t.
Ok, let’t go back to the very, very beginning, for those folks too bound up in their own lawmaking to see the pilliars that hold up our democracy:
The Constitution of the United States serves to guarantee the peace. It grants the government the right to govern individual citizens, as long as the conditions are met. If the citizens’ conditions are NOT met, the courts exist to arbitrate the results so that Justice prevails.
Anything that seeks to violate the constitution and bypass the system of Justice is an open violation of the pact between the people and their system of governance –
– and as any NRA member will tell you, THAT’S why we have the right to bear arms. God forbid we are forced to form “a well regulated Militia” and restore our free State.
Seriously. It would suck. Especially since it hasn’t been done in like 240 years, and the French had to help us do it the first time.
December 21st, 2005 at 8:13 pmHere’s some more:
Washinton Post
December 21, 2005
Appeals Court Slams Administration on Padilla Detention
You see that. This CONSERVATIVE judge was on Bush’short list, not the long one, of judges to be nominated to the Supreme Court.
Yeah, he is a liberal all right.
December 21st, 2005 at 8:13 pmThey don’t care that King dumbya is trampling the constitution and the Bill of Rights. To the trolls, it’s no different than a football game & we’re rooting for the other team.
You can’t reason with that kind of mentality because that’s sucking down a keg mentality. Not to say that we don’t like our beer. But we don’t let that mindframe drive our lives.
Funny that bushco has made liberals old time conservatives and conservatives right wing fascists. He didn’t make them liberal, that’s for damn sure.
December 21st, 2005 at 8:14 pmThese Trolls don’t even know what side they’re supposed to be on anymore. Conveniently anti judge, but, wait, they are
December 21st, 2005 at 8:15 pmAgainst the judge resigning…. but he’s.. appointed by Bush??!!? “Now what, Mr. Rove? Tell me what my talking points are!”
Now that the Patriot Act is still hanging and Alberto and George all up in arms that it hasn’t been renewed, doesn’t it sound like they’re making veiled threats if it doesn’t get renewed? Are they implying that something will (definitely) happen if it doesn’t get the go ahead and then (of course) it’ll be the Democrat’s fault?
These boys aren’t going to go down without an ugly fight from the sound of it; hold on to your hat and your a**; it might be a long one.
December 21st, 2005 at 8:15 pmax resigning
December 21st, 2005 at 8:16 pmmeant for different post. oops
December 21st, 2005 at 8:17 pmKeep up the good work Think Progress!
December 21st, 2005 at 8:18 pmIn response to Lisa,
Kinda makes one think that they might make something happen; what with all the rumore swirling around about the 9-11 attacks and the way the towers came down on top of themselves.
I remember the replay of his face when he first found out, and that he waited a half an hour before excusing himself, and think, “Sh*t. Maybe the sumbitch did plan it.”
It’s not an idea I like to entertain often, but when they start mouthing off as they are now,… again, I start to wonder.
December 21st, 2005 at 8:26 pmBrrrrr. Chill up my spine.
7. Spudge_Boy … It’s my understanding that FISA judges are appointed by the Chief Justice who would have been Rehnquist in Robertson’s case.
December 21st, 2005 at 8:40 pmTrue Blue,
We want to have our facts in line. Bush sat staring into space for 7 1/2 minutes. Before excusing himself. But, he then went and had a photo-op for 20 minutes, then gave a speech.
Here is the intersting part. Bush gave a prewritten speech. He didn’t do it off the cuff. It is quite interesting. Did Bush take his presidential speech writer to an elementary scholl for a prestaged reading photo-op. I don’t think so.
December 21st, 2005 at 8:41 pmHave that judge declared and enemy of the state and executed pronto.
-George W. Bush
December 21st, 2005 at 8:43 pmSorry, Spudge,
I guess I lumped the two times together.
That is *quite interesting*, though.
Where are the real investigative reporters?
I guess that’s why places like TP are here.
Thanks again, Spudge!
December 21st, 2005 at 8:47 pmBTW, Spudge,
Do you remember his expression?
When they played it back, it didn’t seem like, “Holy Crap! We’ve been attacked! I have to do something!”
It was more, “Wow… it’s really happening.”
Two very different faces. Two very different scenarios.
I was in the middle of class, and when I heard the announcement, I thought immediately, “We’re under attack! This must be the start of war.” (Pearl Habor style)
December 21st, 2005 at 8:52 pmSo if I were Pres., I’d have been out of that seat pronto.
Things just don’t match up. And that scares me.
#18
Ellis,
I heard a guy on NPR say that Bush appointed him. I will have to check it out. Like I said, we want to keep all of our facts straight.
December 21st, 2005 at 8:56 pm#21 and 22
True Blue,
The look I see on Bush’s face is that the CIA asset, Osama bin Laden, did what he said he would do. I think that Bush did not believe that Osama would follow through on his threat and Bush was in utter disbelief when he did it.
A real leader would have immediately stood up, excused himself in front of the kids and got to work.
December 21st, 2005 at 9:03 pm1) Michael Luttig is no liberal … whoever said that is ignorant. He was on Bush’s short list for nomination to the SCOTUS for God’s sake. He’s not Scalia, but he’s similar to Roberts.
2) Drew Mackenzie is correct … as a Republic the Constitution is a binding agreement from the people as to how they must be governed. As such, it is the foundational document from which all other laws and rights derive (there’s congressional law and torts but they must be in keeping with the Constitution, hence the court system). Bush is careful to not just say he’s acting upon the “war powers” given to him (and I’m sure his attorney make sure of this fact) but also in keeping with the Constitution (Article 2, Section 2) … this interpretation is, of course, extremely wide (but the framers did leave the President with the widest Constitutional berth).
December 21st, 2005 at 9:12 pmSpudge, don’t get suckered into True Blue’s “Bush arranged 9/11″ fantasy. You’re too smart for that.
I agree his reaction was a bit slow, but it seems in keeping with the ‘idiot’ impression you all have of him.
December 21st, 2005 at 9:17 pmWhere is the complete footage of the airliner hitting the Pentagon? Why was it confiscated from two known locations with witnesses present and remains unseen by the public. Why does the Pentagon’s security footage have missing(edited) impact frames. Show that undoctored film footage and I’ll start believe it was terrorism, all other(many,many) ambiguities aside.
December 21st, 2005 at 9:36 pmBREAKING NEWS
December 21st, 2005 at 9:41 pmPatriot Act extended for six months
He’s going after the believed perpetrators of 9-11 like O.J. going after the “real killers”.
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December 21st, 2005 at 9:52 pmImpeach the bastards!!!
December 21st, 2005 at 10:05 pmA six month extension is hardly a ‘win’. Three months would have been better simply because bush is on record as saying he would have used his veto powers for the first time in his presidency.
Six months will simply allow the debate to lose tractions…or gain, perhaps, if the current warrantless spying issue heats up.
The judge makes good points. Making the executive branch take a position and keep it would seem to make some sense…individuals don’t ever want to feel like they’ve been made irrelevent or bypassed, witness the FISA resignation today.
December 21st, 2005 at 10:13 pm#26
cynicon implant,
I don’t think Bush planned the 9/11 attacks. He is not smart enough to plan something that deep.
But, on the other hand I do believe that Bush was told it was going to happen and sat on his thumbs thinking that nobody would dare go through with it.
It was his egotistical attitude that cost 3,000 people their lives.
He was warned on August 6th 2001 in his Presidential Daily Briefing. Bush didn’t do anything, because “Clinton was bad” and so he disregarded his warnings.
No, Bush didn’t plan 9/11, but he is responsible for it not being thwarted.
December 21st, 2005 at 10:22 pm#25
Giacomo,
See post number 5, from liberal no more.
These are the types of people that you get lumped in with all the time. Same with cynicon implant. I see you guys will talk, but people here are used to trolls like “liberal no more” spewing crap like “He’s a conservative like I’m a liberal yea right.” when refering to somebody who is absolutely a conservative.
December 21st, 2005 at 10:25 pmCrazy as a moonbat:
December 21st, 2005 at 10:38 pm
I actually have a 4th circuit opinion written by Luttig. He overturned a case I won in the Rocket Docket (E.D. VA). There was no factual basis behind his ruling. Rather, it was completely politically motivated based upon his conservative views and their desire to over turn many laws. In my case, it had to do with overturning a portion of the Commerce Clause in the Constitution.
To overturn the Rocket DOcket’s ruling, he had to ignore expert witnes testimony taken pursuant to FRCP Rule 30(b)(6).
Simply put, Luttig is a f*ing prick whose only concern is his political agenda when he makes a legal ruling.
December 21st, 2005 at 10:39 pmIt is completely within the Bushevik character to govern by fiat and expect compliance. Look at the record since 9/11. It is up to we the people to show them that we still believe in a nation of laws above any man and the Constitution above any law! Hats off to the astute judge.
December 21st, 2005 at 10:41 pmBush’s feeble effort in tracking down bin laden displays his “consciousness of guilt”. Nothing else explains his refusal to adequately fund the posse.
December 21st, 2005 at 10:41 pmSimply put, John is a bad lawyer who whines when he loses a case.
December 21st, 2005 at 10:42 pm[Comment deleted by admin]
December 21st, 2005 at 10:42 pmYes, it is quite good. That’s why President Bush beat Hanoi John Kerry in ‘04.
December 21st, 2005 at 10:43 pmJohn,
Ironic considering that Luttig is a conservative and was a ‘bush’ appointee. You guys eat your own like crocodiles…
December 21st, 2005 at 10:43 pm[Comment deleted by admin]
December 21st, 2005 at 10:44 pmExit polls prove wwallace is wrong – and a ‘useless idiot’ :()
December 21st, 2005 at 10:44 pmI don’t imagine that’s exactly the sort of on-topic, reasoned debate Judd’s been asking for. LOL
December 21st, 2005 at 10:45 pm[Comment deleted by admin]
December 21st, 2005 at 10:47 pmThese robots who see no wrong in tearing apart the constitution , do not care . You see they are on the Right side of the FAITH , their leader cannot do any wrong he is a man of Faith ,whatever that faith is , they do not say because they are blind and they do not think , they are robots .So they think they have nothing to fear ,in the coming new order they will be the masters .
December 21st, 2005 at 10:48 pm#33,
December 21st, 2005 at 10:48 pmI don”t think it”s a win until WE defeat the patriot act all together. I just thoght it was important
Spudge seems upset. The lack of any arguments is nothing new, however. LOL
December 21st, 2005 at 10:49 pmI don’t imagine that’s exactly the sort of on-topic, reasoned debate Judd’s been asking for. LOL
Are you kidding? This is a blog. Half of us aren’t wearing pants!
December 21st, 2005 at 10:50 pmThe position of al Qaeda is:
December 21st, 2005 at 10:50 pm
wwallace,
I am not a lawyer, I was the plaintiff you dumb ass.
December 21st, 2005 at 10:55 pmThe position of al Qaeda is what Bush tells us it is.
December 21st, 2005 at 10:56 pmJohn is not a lawyer, he is a whiny little schoolgirl.
December 21st, 2005 at 10:58 pmhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904/
Vote whether Bush should be impeached.Finally a MSM poll.
December 21st, 2005 at 10:59 pmAl Qaeda doesn’t care about the patriot act. Your tired old rhetoric sounds as pathetic as Cheney’s baseless assertions that thousands of people will be killed if the PA is not renewed. You’re absurd.
December 21st, 2005 at 11:01 pmWow, so far 88% of respondents voted for yes!
December 21st, 2005 at 11:03 pmAmen Andrew!
December 21st, 2005 at 11:03 pm“I don”t think it”s a win until the whole CONSTITUTION is reversed, violated, trampled on, spit on, shit on and any other g*****ned thing YOU can do to it.”
GWB,
PS IT”S JUST A GODDAMNDED PIECE OF PAPER
December 21st, 2005 at 11:04 pmWow,those guys at redstate.org are downright psycho! Have you read their stuff lately?
December 21st, 2005 at 11:08 pm#51
Now that’s funny sh!t!
December 21st, 2005 at 11:09 pm#56
Damn, the Yes Impeach vote is at 88%.
DAMN!
Yeah, we are in the minority. Ha! Right wingers that back these illegal actions are completely out of touch.
December 21st, 2005 at 11:10 pmThe position of al Qaeda and their proxy republicans like wwallace is:
December 21st, 2005 at 11:13 pm
wwallace is not an american, she is a whiny little girlfriend of osama.
December 21st, 2005 at 11:15 pm#63
Between Abramoff flipping and Spygate maybe we will finally get some justice.On the other hand you know what they say about a wounded animal backed into a corner.These guys are capable of anything.
December 21st, 2005 at 11:15 pmIN CASE YOU MISSED IT
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904#survey
Pass it on
December 21st, 2005 at 11:16 pmThe courts aren’t going to play the clown/stooge role, looks like.
December 21st, 2005 at 11:17 pmFrom Times/Americablog:
In denying the administration’s request, the three-judge panel unanimously issued a strongly worded opinion that said the Justice Department’s effort to transfer Mr. Padilla gave the appearance that the government was trying to manipulate the court system to prevent the Supreme Court from reviewing the case. The judges warned that the administration’s behavior in the Padilla case could jeopardize its credibility before the courts in other terrorism cases.
December 21st, 2005 at 11:19 pm#66
I expected the usual 58-63% in favor of impeaching Bush. It looks like almost everybody is after them.
I would say that the only people still supporting Bush’s dumbass are only die hard wingnutss.
You know, the type of crazy, retarded, dumbass conservative that would go to a prgoressive site and spout retarded bullsh!t like:
or
December 21st, 2005 at 11:23 pm
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wwallace came into this thread, attacked me first and then tries to derail the topic.
I told him to shut the fvck up because we are tired of the idiotic drivel being put out on a daily basis. They degrade the value of ThinkProgress.
December 21st, 2005 at 11:25 pmI have just read on one of the web sites that Bush and administration might cause another attack on the US just to say how we need the patriot act. I don’t trust any of them. 11/06 is too long of a wait to impeach this crowd. It has to be done now before it is too late. I also read they are going to do experiments with the bird flu on live people for a vaccine.
December 21st, 2005 at 11:26 pmIn an isolation ward of a Baltimore hospital, up to 30 ‘volunteers’ will participate this April in a bold experiment: A vaccine made with a live version of the most notorious bird flu will be sprayed into their noses.
U.S. [Bioterror] Team Will Test Live-Virus 18 Dec 2005
http://www.healthcentral.com/newsdetail/408/1507445.html
wwwallace , you’re so full of shit ,one has to ask , how in the hell id you get that way? were you abuse as a child were u raped and you enjoyed it and all you want as an adult is a many srokes as you can get .You will do and say anything just to get stroked , you only get pleasure when you get someboby pissed . You are some sado-massochistic bitch .You need help .go get it whatever u are. a he , a she a it.You are some eunuch .
December 21st, 2005 at 11:33 pmcuriously, Luttig wrote a dissent to the 4th Circ.’s original opinion. Therefore, the request to depublish the opinion would seem to be an acquiescence of the government to Luttig’s position. But he won’t accept that. The inference is clear. Luttig expects the supreme court will expressly reverse the 4th Circ.’s opinion. Even more interesting, the other judges, in agreeing with, and allowing Luttig to write this opinion, have changed their minds on the opinion. This can only be explained by reference to the news of recent days.
December 21st, 2005 at 11:36 pmAttention all trolls:
The conservatives think that Bush is a criminal and that the Bubble Boy deserves to be locked up for violating the Constitution and the rights of millions of Americans.
Your constant dribbles are useless now. Stop defending your President and join the human race. Anything you say
December 21st, 2005 at 11:42 pmis moot.
Luttig is indeed a conservative — he was on the list for SCOTUS if I recall. For people who disagree with his stand on this to call him a liberal is more indicative of their own refusal to acknowledge anything contrary with their own views.
December 22nd, 2005 at 12:04 amBush lovers can’t abide any criticism of their boy and that loyalty to him has blinded them to the serious criminality of his actions. Bush has pushed for more power and authority from day one in his presidency, he has ordered secrecy, demanded total loyalty, countenanced no opposition to his thinking, has spoken and acted rashly and recklessly, he has made our nation less safe, he has disregarded civil liberties, and he has lost respect and credibility around the globe.
They defend him at every opportunity, but they are not thinking of the full picture. They like the macho man, the dominant authority figure he presents as if it fills a void or meets a need in their own lives, and they fail to see that belligerent behavior courts more of the same. Hostility and warfare will continue to rise unless someone takes a step back to view the horizon, loses the chip on the shoulder, and begins to make a difference in our country and the world through means other than war, retribution, and abuse of power.
Well said Marie. I want to add he gave Cheney a free hand to make snuff films and he used chemical weapons to melt the children of Fallujah.
December 22nd, 2005 at 12:22 amron,
I’m not an attorney and know very little about law. However, I do know that courts make political rulings many times rather than legal rulings. Consequently, I am not as confident as you to conclude that the Supreme Court will not make another political ruling (similar to Bush v. Gore) and uphold the 4th Circuit’s ruling in Padilla.
December 22nd, 2005 at 12:29 amMarie-
Anyone calling Luttig a liberal, is either a Beta-Monkey protecting the Alpha-Monkey or too naive to understand political labels.
Glad to see that conservatives are finally understanding that dictatorial powers in the hands of an incompetent is the surest way to destroy this country. Some of us liberals/progressives understood this in the 90’s when we saw the Republican Party beginning their transition into a power-at-any-cost criminal enterprise.
BTW, the MSNBC poll has over 44,000 respondents….88% saying Bush should be impeached. Where’s all the popular support for this administration? Guess he’s spent up all that political capital, charged a whole bunch he didn’t have, and now the IOU’s are coming due and payable.
And we still have the impending trials of Plame-gate/treason and Abramoff/corruption to look forward to in 2006. While the veneer of democracy gives way to a Shi’ite theocracy in Iraq.
wwallace, clean up in aisles 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8…..
December 22nd, 2005 at 12:37 amFellow posters:
Something about this wiretapping situation just occurred to me a few minutes ago. It has been right there in front of me all this time.
Reports state that the White House counsel was one of the entities that had knowledge of, and was complicit with, Bush’s secret wiretapping operation.
And just who was White House counsel during all this?
One Harriet Miers.
And why did she withdraw from the SC nomination?
Well, via CNN:
In her withdrawal letter to the president, Miers said she was “concerned that the confirmation process presents a burden for the White House and its staff and it is not in the best interest of the country.”
Bush said:
“It is clear that senators would not be satisfied until they gained access to internal documents concerning advice provided during her tenure at the White House — disclosures that would undermine a president’s ability to receive candid counsel.”
But look at one senator’s response:
But Democratic and Republican senators said that they hadn’t asked for privileged documents.
“We were not asking for documents regarding attorney-client privilege — or privileged communications,” Judiciary Committee member Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kansas, said. “We were saying, ‘Show us documents of policy issues discussions,’ so we could get some framework of her policy views.”
So, here’s some food for thought: Could there have been concern between Miers and Bush that the issue of the apparently illegal wiretapping might be discovered?
December 22nd, 2005 at 12:45 am#79,Ryan, I had never heard that — it’s so true. Thanks.
December 22nd, 2005 at 12:48 am#81, WC, Ver-r-y interesting. He already has a toady in AG Gonzalez, and a few more on the Court would enable him to cover his tracks completely.
December 22nd, 2005 at 12:52 amRepublican effort at dictatorship in its last throes?
December 22nd, 2005 at 12:52 am#83
Indeed. I wouldn’t doubt that when all things were considered, with senators asking about docs regarding policy decisions (one of which was the wiretapping), Bush asked Miers to withdraw as he was afraid of what might come out during her confirmation procedure in the senate. But it was arranged to look like Miers was the one that made the decision.
December 22nd, 2005 at 1:05 am#81
WC,
I remember everything in your post. I just had not put those pieces together. As Marie said, “Veeeeerrrrry interesting.”
Also, remember that Harriet Miers is the one that handed Bush the August 6th 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing.
This is an Associated Press photo from August 6, 2001. The caption states that Harriet Miers going over PDB with Bush.
This is also the photo that shows that she has a ring on her left hand ring finger. Look close. She is said to be marriage free. Did she have a “significant other”?
December 22nd, 2005 at 1:17 am#86
Maybe a “Friends Forever” ring from Bush. You know…kinda like kids do in elementary school.
December 22nd, 2005 at 1:34 am#86
You know, I kinda hate to admit it, but just looking at that picture, Bush appears to be more “presidential looking” than at any other time I can recall since he took office. It’s just something about the look on his face…maybe it’s the lack of that goofy smile he’s displaying most of the time. There’s just an air of seriousness that we don’t see much of the time with him. Yeah, I know…this scene depicts the review of the infamouse PDB, but cut me some slack. I can’t help it…I took an Art Appreciation class a few years ago, in which we studied paintings and photos in detail.
Just an observation.
December 22nd, 2005 at 1:51 amI guess the trolls had nothing to add to back up their sad
claim that Bush is God.
I guess they gave up.
December 22nd, 2005 at 2:30 amLuttig’s ugly face:
Looks like a terrorist
December 22nd, 2005 at 2:59 am#89
Perhaps the “what, me worry?” grin didn’t feel the same, now that his “legacy” includes 2000+ dead soldiers.
December 22nd, 2005 at 3:56 amDo you believe President Bush’s actions justify impeachment? * 56224 responses
Yes, between the secret spying, the deceptions leading to war and more, there is plenty to justify putting him on trial.
87%
No, like any president, he has made a few missteps, but nothing approaching “high crimes and misdemeanors.”
4%
No, the man has done absolutely nothing wrong. Impeachment would just be a political lynching.
7%
I don’t know.
December 22nd, 2005 at 6:40 am1%
Uh … blabita-blabita-blah-blah-blah… that’s all folks!
Porky Pig
December 22nd, 2005 at 6:42 amOk, what the hell is going on with google now? I just looked under the news section and not one story about the spy scandal in all of their top stories! How is that possible?? Those stories are supposed to reflect the most popular current news events. There is no way this isn’t some kind of trickery. Shame on them.
December 22nd, 2005 at 7:32 amThis smells really fishy! I access Google from another country, but I have never seen this happen. The illegal wiretap didn’t even appear on the extended news coverage page when you hit the icon that says “show more news stories’. This is a scandal!
Google quote:
Google News is a highly unusual news service in that our results are compiled solely by computer algorithms, without human intervention. As a result, news sources are selected without regard to political viewpoint or ideology, enabling you to see how different organizations are reporting the same story. This variety of perspectives and approaches is unique among online news sites, and we consider it essential in helping you stay informed about the issues that matter most to you.
December 22nd, 2005 at 7:58 amHEY! What Happened?????
My entire post is gone! WHY? There is no indication that it even existed.
again, Hey! What Happened?????
December 22nd, 2005 at 9:40 amWelcome to “The New World Order”
Bush I (CIA man) proclaimed it during his term.
If Michael Luttig is wary of Bushiva then you know we’re in trouble.
Jose Padilla is an American citizen who was held for years without due process, and continues to be held after the most damning charges against him- he was accused of plotting to explode a “dirty” bomb on U.S. soil- were dropped. Now the Bushite junta is holding him for “aiding terrorism” (because he traveled to Pakistan or Afghanistan I forget which).
At this point (given the Bushite junta’s legal wranglings, and judgements against their preliminary motions etc.) it’s perfectly reasonable to suspect that Padilla is being held so that this criminal regime can “SAVE FACE”!
We should all be worried (especially in view of current revelations about warrantless surveillance and the unPatriot Act), this could happen to any one of us who might run afoul of these scurvy Bushite sombiches…
IMPEACH!
December 22nd, 2005 at 11:37 amWC #81,
An interesting observation, one worthy of probative consideration.
Hopefully the “secrets” of this criminal regime will be fully revealed and illegalities properly adjudicated all the way to the top, this is the ONLY way confidence can be restored in our democracy and form of government.
December 22nd, 2005 at 11:51 am#88, that was before he tired of the hard work of being President.
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again, Hey! What Happened?????
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The same has happened to me a few times -I think it’s a bug. Also, this blog seems to have problems with Firefox.
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