Drudge’s Slime and Weave
By on Dec 21st, 2005 at 5:16 pm
Drudge’s Slime and Weave
Drudge yesterday:
Drudge today:
The entire controversy is about the Bush administration conducting warrantless surveillance of Americans. So Drudge doesn’t have a story left.
Of course, that hasn’t stopped him from continuing to push it.
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would Drudge lie?…..not even a nice try you lockstep bushie robots. Impeach them all. this message approved by the NSA….maybe….later….kinda….no comment….
December 21st, 2005 at 5:20 pmWell at least Drudge didn’t erase the past headline COMPLETELY. It’s in his archives! Oh wait… he doesn’t even OWN the archive site. Ok, so he IS a liar!
December 21st, 2005 at 5:25 pmTP…no offense, but many of us really don’t care about what Drudge says. We already know he distorts everything in his favor…
Now, a much bigger story is the breaking Padilla story, in which Knuckledragger Justice Luttig–GASP!–just ripped the Bush Admin. for their treatment of the Padilla case. Not only is the rebuke itself news, but also who it’s coming from.
Please, less Drudge crap and more real news. Thanks.
December 21st, 2005 at 5:27 pmThe problem is that this starts on drudge and gets quickly mainstreamed. TV producers are talking about it. Congress people are talking about it. We have to cut off misinformation at the source.
December 21st, 2005 at 5:29 pmIt is so obvious that Drudge is a GOP robot. He will go weeks without covering any big political story but when the GOP is on the ropes, all of a sudden Drudge becomes this great investigative reporter. It is so transparent that he gets his marching orders from Mehlman and Rover.
December 21st, 2005 at 5:30 pmiT’S tRUE! tHEY dIDN’T hAVE a cOURT oRDER tO wIRETAP! tHEY wAITED aND wENT tO tHE fisa cOURT lATER!
SCANDAL!
“Q Well –
“THE PRESIDENT: Hold on a second, please. There is the check of people being sworn to uphold the law, for starters. There is oversight. We’re talking to Congress all the time, and on this program, to suggest there’s unchecked power is not listening to what I’m telling you. I’m telling you, we have briefed the United States Congress on this program a dozen times.
“Q What limits do you –
“THE PRESIDENT: I just described limits on this particular program, Peter. And that’s what’s important for the American people to understand. I am doing what you expect me to do, and at the same time, safeguarding the civil liberties of the country.”
December 21st, 2005 at 5:32 pmI used to have a lot of respect for the Drudge-man. I even picked up on his fedora tip. Damnit. Don’t you just hate it when someone you respect and admire proves his or her humanity? Nobody is perfect … But this is outright misinformation.
His link has come off my blogroll. Shame.
December 21st, 2005 at 5:33 pmJudd is right. This allows the people on Fox to take this from the internet and put it on tv. Once it is on tv, the sunday shows will mention this in their lame attempt to be “fair”. Once it is out their, it is added to the argument. The argument then can become, “Clinton did the same thing, Bush can’t be impeached, the Dems are being hypocrites.”
December 21st, 2005 at 5:33 pmre #4: “We have to cut off information at the source.”
I see no way to stop them (Drudge, O’Reily, Hannity, et. al) from making false claims, but if they could be systmatically and consitently discredited on every false count, eventually mainstreamers might pick up on the fact that they’re unreliable sources.
December 21st, 2005 at 5:38 pm1. Why not murder the despicable, tyranical slime that inhabits the right?
2. Would such action not have avoided WWII with the assisination of Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo and their supporters?
3. If the president is not bound by any law under the constitution, do not the citizens retain the right to over throw the dicatator?
The Bush line of reasoning justifying the war in Iraq, assumption of near dictatorial powers and usurpation of democractic processes could well lead to the kind of anarchy described above. When the rule of law is set to the side and when normative values governing the use of force are warped by those like Bush, then a precedent is set that could well lead to those kinds of actions. Note, that similar reasoning was set forth by extreme right wing Christians in their fight of a “just” war against abortion.
When the government justifies the “dis-appearing” of people, refuses to follow the Geneva accords, embraces pre-emptive military action and askews the rule of law for certain inherent, absolute powers. The Bush administration could well set the example for those who are violent to adopt similar action. Bush presents an imminent, clear and present danger to democracy and civil rest in this country. He must be arrested, impeached, tried before Congress and in the criminal courts and imprisoned for his crimes.
December 21st, 2005 at 5:39 pmcorrection: …cut off misinformation… (sorry)
December 21st, 2005 at 5:39 pmYep, once it is in ANY news outlet, it allows the wackos (meaning Hannity) to act as if it is fact.
December 21st, 2005 at 5:41 pmI know this is totally off-subject, so please don’t get mad at me for this…I just went to the Drudge Report, and found an interesting link.
It seems that the Canadian Supreme Court ruled that the government there has no business outlawing consenting adults have sex behind locked doors at “on-premise” swingers clubs. The article said in part:
And in America it is totally permissable in some places to legally pack heat and shoot someone you “think” is “threatening” you (wink, wink)(Florida) without criminal penalties, but until recently could be prosecuted for selling or buying a dildo (Texas)! Jeez, Canada gets the whole “keep the government out of my bedroom” thing, why not here?
Happy Holidays, Canada!
December 21st, 2005 at 5:54 pmI think TP should keep doing what they do.
December 21st, 2005 at 5:58 pmIt seems that most everything gets covered
without missing important news.
I don’t follow every post about O’Liely
and Sludge, but it is important to discount
all the lies at there source.
Don’t like a post? Wait a few minutes for
the next one to dig in and troll joust.
drudge is not worth the time I am taking to write this response
December 21st, 2005 at 5:59 pmPoor Matt Drudge. As a raging homosexual, he must be feeling really frustrated. I mean, so full of loathing and self hatred.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but him being shunned and kept outside of the Republican mainstream because of his sexual preferences is really hateful. It must really irk Matt that the progressive folks on the left are the only ones who would allow him into their midst, so its no wonder he hates the dems so much.
Its OK, Matt. Like it or not, you have been out of the closet for several years now, and only the lefties here tolerant of your lifestyle. At least the progressives won’t put a stake thru your heart like the Pat Robertson crowd would.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:00 pmall the lies at there source.
^^^^^
the
Sorry.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:00 pmHmm, is this document fishy or what? When Rockefeller Warned of ‘Profound Oversight Issues’ he not only to hand write it by himself for the secrecy that the matter imposed and the Bush imposed, but used such language as not to leave much in the way of a clue as too what was being discuss with Cheney/Bush.
And Drudge want’s us to believe that a document from Clinton with‘Secret’ labelled on the top of it is the same damn thing? Not only is just too balant, but its like saying that all red cars are fast because my buddy’s dad’s Porsch has a red paint job.
But, of course, some non-pulsed righties will think this is a smoking gun of sometime, regardless of the issue – warrantless searches by the Executive branch with no oversite.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:03 pmJudd is right. This allows the people on Fox to take this from the internet and put it on tv.
Comment by dee gahl
dee #8,
The Fox Bushite propaganda network started out lying the minute the news Bushiva became a felon (for the umpteenth time)hit the airwaves. They (Foxites) regurgitated the “Clinton did it” inbred talking point from the jump. The best defense is an offense, so tell ‘em all how Clinton WON against Aldridge Aimes, the blind Sheik, Tim McVeigh et al. with a lot less bloodshed, lost treasure and loss of domestic and international standing; instead using good old fashioned hard work through LEGAL channels. You don’t win high profile legal cases with glaring, juicy (to defense lawyers) legal technicalities like “no warrant”.
How many cases has the Bushite junta dropped to date? Count ‘em inbreds…
December 21st, 2005 at 6:03 pm…vee are vatching all of you…..vee vill take your names and visit you tonight….vee have vays of stopping you..vee don’t need no stinking varrants…..OBEY! CONFORM!….
December 21st, 2005 at 6:07 pmAgain, righties are committing the fallacy of equivication here. If Carter and Clinton were wrong going through and searching and survielling Americans WITHOUT court approval, then Bush is wrong of it too. (However, it appears that Carter and Clinton did not. Hell FISA was setup during Carter’s admin for chrissakes.)
Remember, that Bush so admitted that he did this unconstituional act. Bush apologists are playing right into our hands and agreeing with us.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:08 pm“Jeez, Canada gets the whole “keep the government out of my bedroom†thing, why not here?”
Probably best not mention the Canadians here. They are kind of the smoking gun in this whole “Clinton didn’t do that” story.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:09 pmFound this little tid-bit on mainstream Samuel Alito:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/21/AR2005122100354.html
Filibuster. I DARE YOU.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:12 pmJoin Barbara Boxer and demand that hearings be held on the illegal wiretapping before Alito confirmation hearings begin.
A crime has been committed and deserves priority.
Sign it now!
December 21st, 2005 at 6:12 pmhttp://ga4.org/campaign/wiretaphearings/d7dku3ro5xm63w?
I’ll take the Dare and up the anti up to impeachment Andy in DE-nial.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:14 pm(don’t think for a minute I read your link Andy in DE-nial, I dont visit propaganda sites)
Drudges closet is full of dirty tricks.
-GSD
December 21st, 2005 at 6:15 pmI tipped Drudge to that yesterday: “Hey, stupid, no Americans were spied upon by Clinton!”
Glad to see he listens.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:18 pmSusan – it’s WaPo. Alito is about as popular as John Roberts. Please bring out babykiller Boxer for the Alito. Nothing will animate the right like that lying zealot. The right will get just as nasty with Alito critics.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:18 pmAndy in DE, wouldn’t be nice if the conservative side of life could get thru ONE DAY without bringing up Clinton or blaming Clinton for junior’s short comings? As a rightwinger myself, I have to admit that junior pales in comparrsion to Clinton. Like Bush’s IQ being a lousy 91 and Clinton being a genius at 183. I know it just pisses us conservatives off to no end to realize we have entrusted a complete imbecile like junior with our rights and our country, huh?
Correct me if I’m wrong, but everytime junior steps on his pecker, someone like Drudge, Hannity, or a Republican politician tries to thow up some kind of smoke screen. And talking about smokescreens what does your lame-assed horseshit about Alito in #23 have to do with the subject here?
December 21st, 2005 at 6:25 pmHow can it be that this scandal is no longer considered important enough to carry on the front pages of the major news sites on the web. Don’t believe me? Go see. You need to dig a bit to see that our president is boldly laying claim to an impeachable offense. This isn’t news, but the NY Transit strike is?? I hope people start complaining about this.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:27 pmMATT FUDGEpacker is paid per lie by the right.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:28 pm-Pure propaganda that I used to read about 4 years ago and now see it for the misleading crap that it is.
Clinton should sue his butt for libel!!!!!!!
He claimed on a public forum that Clinton broke the law.
What’s Clinton’s image worth 3mil….maybe more..i think he must make some bank
Oh yeah btw
IMPEACHMENT NOW!!!!
December 21st, 2005 at 6:30 pmAndy,
How many babies would have been killed in Kosovo if you and your traitor republican buddies had their way and permitted genocide. Your ‘hollow’ and ‘irrational’ comments belong at the ‘creationist’ seminar with the other unscientific fools who base public policy on fairy tales. You’re the brother ‘grim’, and your attitude is immoral and hysterical.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:33 pmAlito is actually polling WORSE than Miers.
http://dadahead.blogspot.com/2005/11/alito-polling-worse-than-miers.html
December 21st, 2005 at 6:34 pmRyan – your poll is as worthless as your arguments. WaPo just released their poll, you refer to one from early Nov.
I am so happy the left is looking to Barbara Boxer for political guidance. That helps us alot.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:40 pmFilibuster. I DARE YOU.
Comment by Andy in DE — December 21, 2005 @ 6:12 pm
I don’t think anyone here has any saying on the filibuster. You got the wrong blog.
Please bring out babykiller Boxer for the Alito. Nothing will animate the right like that lying zealot.
Comment by Andy in DE — December 21, 2005 @ 6:18 pm
“Babykiller”? “Animate”? “Zealot”? You are getting apocalyptic on us here. Really, you got in the wrong forum.
The right will get just as nasty with Alito critics.
Comment by Andy in DE — December 21, 2005 @ 6:18 pm
How do you know? Are you a GOP decision-maker? Or did God tell you?
I am so happy the left is looking to Barbara Boxer for political guidance. That helps us alot.
Comment by Andy in DE — December 21, 2005 @ 6:40 pm
Uhm, noone is asking for Boxer’s “guidance”. She has started a petition and is asking for the people to sign it -you know, the way things are done in a democracy.
Who is “us”? You and the voices in your head?
December 21st, 2005 at 6:53 pmWho in hell is Drudge? never heard of him nor her.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:53 pmAndy in Delaware is probably Drudges Boyfriend.
December 21st, 2005 at 7:03 pmI,ll bet Drudge eavesdrops here.
Whom, if any, of the Uber-Ego journalists, had security clearances? Also, if I had to pick one monitored phone conversation above all others, I’d have to choose John Bolton’s. Why his calls? worth looking into? Give us the info on that one or have a good reason for not. Ok now to the thread, Question ; Did WJC request a warrant after the tap? Is this the White House’s defense? They seem to go with what they can quote. Hmmm. Drudge will come around, he adjusted his coverage of Delay after taking some flak for it. Just go there that’s all he cares about. He’s the Fox twisted sex & news blog. mmm Canada.
December 21st, 2005 at 7:04 pmits geting better by the moment. this Story (I pray) will turn out to be bigger than the watergate scandel.
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December 21st, 2005 at 7:05 pmWho in hell is Drudge? never heard of him nor her.
Comment by nofreedom!
nofreedom #37,
DRUDGE IS SLUDGE…
December 21st, 2005 at 7:05 pmSorry, i forgot to give up the link from Mr. Drudge’s site. Enjoy
December 21st, 2005 at 7:07 pmhttp://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2005-12-21T151550Z_01_KNE073843_RTRUKOC_0_US-SEX.xml&rpc=22
What do you call a boy with no arms and legs?………. Matt.
What do you call all the crap that accumulates on and under your doormat?…………… Drudge.
there it is.
December 21st, 2005 at 7:13 pmThe funniest thing about this whole Drudge canard is that with ALL the investigations into Clinton, whitewater, christmas cards, travelgate, monica, sneezing without covering his mouth (okay I made that up)… do you think the Republican congress would not have jumped at the chance to impeach Clinton over illegal and unconstitutional spying of citizens?
Well Rightie’s? I wait for your answer, and when you try, please try to answer the question without some shift in focus or ad hominem. You won’t be able to, but give a try.
December 21st, 2005 at 7:17 pm#42 I was wondering who the hell Drudge or sludge was and why any one would care and hit on your post. What I got was pretty funny but don’t think Canadian swingers and sex clubs is any where close to the answer I was looking for.. First time I have not wanted to read all the posts and that’s what I got….Pretty funny, LOL.
December 21st, 2005 at 7:22 pmyeah #45 SC, that’s what he brings to the table. hey when you’re bored of what Washington is doing just go there. It’s not Fair & balanced, it’s Fun and Distracting.
December 21st, 2005 at 7:30 pmDrudge is a good site for news and theres no libertroll spin .
December 21st, 2005 at 7:49 pmYea newsmax said slick willie was spying on alot of people in the 90’s. But hay thats ok because a libertroll did it.
December 21st, 2005 at 7:50 pmLike you were ever a liberal.
Change your screen name to something that means something to somebody.
December 21st, 2005 at 8:05 pmDrudge is a good site for news and theres no libertroll spin.
Regardless of your hyberpole, Drudge is a right-wing talking point/framing issue site. I read it from time to time. I get more of a kick out Savage and his paranio. To Savage, the homosexual is the new Jew to his latter-day Riech-Wing worldview.
liberal no more… Yea newsmax said slick willie was spying on alot of people in the 90’s. But hay thats ok because a libertroll did it.
December 21st, 2005 at 8:06 pmWell, I was right in predicting what a right-wing/bush apologist response would be. Your answer is a non-answer. Thought I’d rub it in your face rattlesnake.
Newsmax, what a joke.
Newsmax: news source for closet gays only. (closet gays hate reality)
December 21st, 2005 at 8:06 pmHere’s how good NewsMax is:
NewsMax ran a piece today claiming that the FISA judge that resigned over Bush’s secret wiretapping was a Clintonista. They fail to mention that it was George W. Bush that appointed Judge James Robertson to the FISA court on May 19th of 2002.
December 21st, 2005 at 8:17 pmallright, liberal no more, I’ll bite.
December 21st, 2005 at 8:30 pmWhat’s your problem that you’ve decided you are no longer a liberal, and that you feel compelled to blog on a liberal site?
This is a topic that must be discussed depending on your situation. It was reported by the ATF that 150 pounds of explosives are now missing in New Mexico. It has been advised that the explosive materials were stolen at an unknown time between Dec. 13 and Sunday Dec 18. Now lets talk about the question of protection. If you lived in this area how bad would you want persons of interest to be immediately wiretapped? Does Bush’ rush to tap policy seem so out of hand when a situation like this occurs, and you live right in the area?
December 21st, 2005 at 9:14 pmRyamond B
http://www.voteswagon.com
yea, but he ok’d the tapping of quakers,environmentalists, peace activists,animal rights activists etc., not exactly violent terrorist types. who next? the sisters of the poor? political oponents?,journalists?
December 21st, 2005 at 9:25 pmworst case scenarios applied to present everyday reality would keep you in your house under your bed 24/7/365 and for ex:the death penalty for littering.
Ah, Raymond, if you’d stop and think for a second, you’d realize that there are avenues available to do just that. Legally. With a warrant. A court that’s open 24 hrs/day.
Which come to think of it every federal court is. I’ve had bankruptcy filings signed by the judge on Sunday night.
Focus,Raymond,focus…………it can be done.
December 21st, 2005 at 9:30 pm#154
December 21st, 2005 at 10:02 pmHmm, that sounds like probable cause. Do you think the government would have a problem getting a retroactive warrant 3 days after the fact? Because that is exactly what FISA allows. Of course there is NO court that would give Bushie a warrant to spy on Quakers or peace-loving Catholic high schoolers. And that is the point. He can easily get warrants on suspected terrorists. He cannot get them to spy on his political enemies. Therefore he broke the law to do it.
#54
Raymond B,
First off, 550 pounds of explosives were stolen.
Secondly, do you think that the person/s that stole the explosives stayed anywhere near where the explosives were stolen from?
Thirdly the bad guys had up to five days to get as far away from the explosives depot, do you think they are anywhere in New Mexico?
So, realizing that 550 pounds of explosives were stolen from New Mexico and in five dayperiod could have ended up anywhere, do you think the federal government should monitor everybody in the US?
Sh!t, in this one post, I have mentioned New Mexico and explosives over and over. Should I have an illegal wiretapped placed on me?
December 21st, 2005 at 10:32 pmWith no apologies to Tom Cruise;
Matt, you’re being so glib.
December 21st, 2005 at 11:37 pmOk, what the hell is going on with google now? I just looked under the news section and not one story about the spy scandal in all of their top stories! How is that possible?? Those stories are supposed to reflect the most popular current news events. There is no way this isn’t some kind of trickery. Shame on them.
December 22nd, 2005 at 7:46 amThis smells really fishy! I access Google from another country, but I have never seen this happen. The illegal wiretap didn’t even appear on the extended news coverage page when you hit the icon that says “show more news stories’. This is a scandal!
Google quote:
Google News is a highly unusual news service in that our results are compiled solely by computer algorithms, without human intervention. As a result, news sources are selected without regard to political viewpoint or ideology, enabling you to see how different organizations are reporting the same story. This variety of perspectives and approaches is unique among online news sites, and we consider it essential in helping you stay informed about the issues that matter most to you.
December 22nd, 2005 at 7:59 amDrudge is a good site for news and theres no libertroll spin .
Comment by liberal no more
CAUTION:
THE PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR THE POST ABOVE (#47) IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN FARM ANIMALS ARE USED AS CONCUBINES.
December 22nd, 2005 at 11:58 amAh, Raymond, if you’d stop and think for a second, you’d realize that there are avenues available to do just that. Legally. With a warrant. A court that’s open 24 hrs/day.
Comment by TJM
TJM #56,
By pointing out the “FACTS” to Raymond you are attempting to fill a relatively small space (his head) with too much information. If you continue, you may be responsible for causing hemorraghic conditions in a micro-cranial sphere resulting in the death or serious injury of said individual.
Please cease and desist or charges may be filed against you.
December 22nd, 2005 at 12:07 pmBuzzflash mentioned this article on their website.
December 22nd, 2005 at 6:54 pmHow cool is that? See, we’re popular!
Druge is a tool.
His reporting in “depth” insures that he gets invited to the best cocktail parties in Washington.
The spin on his site makes you dizzy.
December 26th, 2005 at 7:08 pm