VIDEO: A Merry O’Reilly Retraction
VIDEO: A Merry O’Reilly Retraction
Bill O’Reilly signals retreat in the “War on Christmas”?
Media Matters notes that O’Reilly has reversed his position on “Happy Holidays”: Only few weeks ago, the phrase was offensive to “millions of Christians” and “insulting to Christian America”; on Monday night, O’Reilly said, “Happy Holidays is fine.”
Now O’Reilly has actually issued a retraction. On last night’s broadcast, O’Reilly admitted he was wrong when claimed a Texas school district “told students they couldn’t wear red and green because they were Christmas colors,” which he described as “fascism.” (As Media Matters noted, O’Reilly manufactured the point out of whole cloth.) From last night’s Factor:
Now I made a mistake a few days ago when I said clothing was included in that party dictum. Clothing was not included. It was colors of plates and cupcakes and things like that.
Watch and enjoy this rarest of videos, Bill O’Reilly admitting a mistake:
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December 21st, 2005 at 12:52 pmThe mere presence of OLeilly is insulting to americans!
December 21st, 2005 at 12:57 pmIt might just be me, but I feel like our country has more important issues to discuss–the war, hurricane reconstruction, healthcare, civil liberties–than “the colors of plates and cupcakes,” regardless of what side of the aisle you’re on.
December 21st, 2005 at 12:59 pmI am stunned!
December 21st, 2005 at 1:00 pmWhy does Bill O’Reilly hate Christmas?
Someone send him a pound of Loofah Sponges to Cheer Him Up!
December 21st, 2005 at 1:11 pmI am waiting to see O’reilly take up William Kristols challenge and Invitation that Kristol published in his Sunday Column in the New York Times. Cowards are always ayatollas while sitting in the comforts of their protected Television studios but put them on the line somewhere where it really counts and they be visibly shaken and cowering. I consider these Rightwing Ayatollahs to all be such cowards.
December 21st, 2005 at 1:14 pmYe gads, shock horror, who next, the preznit?
December 21st, 2005 at 1:19 pmmaybe he thought: “they all listning to my phone calls”…hmmmm ,fox and my ratings are dropping,maybe I better take a tiny tiny step backwards.
December 21st, 2005 at 1:27 pmWell Mr. Bill what can we say to this newfound introspection?
There are some things in life that can’t be taken back. You can take back a hastily spoken name that you call a your signifcant other in the heat of an argument.
You can’t take back that night in college that you did 23 funnels in three hours and woke up naked on the floor outside your dorm room.
You can’t take back that time you told the Senator to go f*ck himself on the Senate floor and by God you can’t take back The War on Christmas!
Come on Bill, don’t be a flip-flopper :)
December 21st, 2005 at 1:30 pmHow does that piece of humble pie taste Bill? Better get used to it, as there’s more coming your way…
December 21st, 2005 at 1:44 pmI’d like to think that I had a hand in TP adding this to their site (I posted about this retraction in a comment to Worfeus this morning) but perhaps I am “grasping for relevance”, as I think Ryan Neat once put it.
December 21st, 2005 at 1:44 pmI was getting a haircut yesterday. After I paid, I gave the barber (an Eastern European woman, I believe) a tip and said “Happy Holidays.” She gave me a dirty look and replied sternly “Merry Christmas.” I shrugged and turned around to leave, at which point she said, “People say ‘Merry Christmas.’” I just said, “Well, I didn’t know you were Christian” and left.
Now, it’s fine if people want to boycott their local Target because they’re dissatisfied with with the greeting they receive. Stupid, but their choice. However, this foot soldier O’Reilly’s “war” was bitchy to me, a Jewish customer giving her a nice tip, because I didn’t use her preferred greeting. How stupid.
Way to suck the fun out of the holiday season and the cordiality out of normal business transactions.
December 21st, 2005 at 1:46 pm#11
Giacomo, no offense, but that’s exactly how it appears. Why the need to be instrumental?
December 21st, 2005 at 1:46 pm#12
Dave,
Sorry tohear that. Not good deed goes unpunished with some of these genuine fruitcakes. I’m an Atheist, so I know how it feels to be a non-Christian casualty amid a nonsensical War FROM Christmas. I’ve learned to not say anything but “Have a nice day”. Or just “tTanks, you too” if they wish me a Merry Xmas first.
December 21st, 2005 at 1:50 pmDevoting time to considering bill o’reilly’s faux pax is like staring at the shit you just took. He is too excrementitious for me.
December 21st, 2005 at 1:54 pmWhat would be more worthwhile would be calling your congressmen and senators and whoever else majkes the decisions that ruin our lives and let them know that bush and his band of imbecils are toast and you want them gone now goddammit. cheney just flew back to be the deciding vote for a bill package that strips even more of the infrastructure that puts bigger holes in the safety net we so need, while the wealthy skate with a reduction in what they pay.
(…) (I posted about this retraction in a comment to Worfeus this morning) (…)
Comment by Giacomo — December 21, 2005 @ 1:44 pm
Giacomo,
Did O’Reilly ever issue a retraction on his “Silent Night” story? The one where the words to the song were changed for a Christmas play in an elementary school.
I know you said you were going to keep an eye on it… just curious…
December 21st, 2005 at 1:56 pmI just have to say that I am eternally grateful for sites like this and the brave people who watch this moron SO I DON’T HAVE TO! I can’t do it for more than a few seconds before I get disgusted and have to turn it off and watch I Love The 80’s for the millionth time.
December 21st, 2005 at 2:04 pmDave,
It’s amazing how brainwashed some of the zombies really are. NOBODY ever gave a shite whether you said anything regarding Season’s Greetings and now the wedge issue wingnuts have the zombie nitwits in a lather because….well….frankly they’re just not all that bright, they don’t think for themselves.
Sounds as though you did the right thing. I sincerely hope people start to figure out how they’re being manipulated.
December 21st, 2005 at 2:06 pmI hate him. It’s people like O’Reilly who are ruining America. He needs to go.
December 21st, 2005 at 2:24 pmGeoMetro,
You remembered Grasping for Relevance? And yet you forget facts, details and information that proves you are wrong so easily. That sort of ’selective memory’ is classic among those who practice ‘wishcraft’ and ‘delusional thinking’. Why don’t you expand some of that capacity to points that actually matter, like protecting our constitution. It might help you to earn that american citizenship and duties to protect our constitution, that you clearly don’t value…
December 21st, 2005 at 2:30 pm#14,
If I had any idea that she was Christian, I probably would have said “Merry Christmas.” I don’t have a problem wishing someone enjoyment on their holiday, even if it’s not mine.
I just find it ridiculous that someone would be upset that I gave them nondenominational well-wishes, and even more ridiculous that she would actually admonish me for it. I’m just sad at the way that some people are so easily brainwashed.
I should have stared her down and replied “Happy Hannukah” :)
December 21st, 2005 at 2:33 pm#21: Next time, ask for your tip money back. She didn’t deserve it.
December 21st, 2005 at 2:36 pmO’Scumbag is a mistake.
P.S. I say happy holidays to those I know are christian just to piss them off.
December 21st, 2005 at 2:45 pm#22, maybe you’re right, but it wasn’t worth starting a confrontation over (in the end, that’s what she wanted). I’d rather have just talked to her and set her straight, but neither option was worth the time or effort.
December 21st, 2005 at 2:46 pmhi billie, I know you read this blogg, Zigby poll shows 53% of folks want ol bushie impeached,wanna comment about that by using some troll name?….’happy holidays’…never mind about your rating drop, you just keep spitting out your puke.
December 21st, 2005 at 2:49 pmI think you waste your time talking, writing, listening or looking at what’s his name reilly.
December 21st, 2005 at 2:49 pmThe Great Dildo of Truth has hit Bill O’Reilly right in the puss.
Couldn’t happen to a cheesier windbag.
-GSD
December 21st, 2005 at 2:51 pmI kinda made up my mind that I would not participate in any more posts dedicated to the Ayatollah Al’Rielly, but I have to say this to Burnie, post #15:
Excrementitious? Cool! I just added another word to my vocabulary! Thank you!
Really, I love it. I just hope I never talk about something so disgusting that I actually have occasion to use the word…like commenting on another O’Lielly post, for instance…
December 21st, 2005 at 3:26 pmOk, now I can post this and be on topic, LoL.
Night before last, O’Reilly provided us this little tidbit of his wisdom, showing us just how educated in the Bible, and the things he preaches, he really is.
He said to his guest, Barbara Walters, that “In ALL Judeo-Christian philosophy, not the religion, the philosophy, there is a common belief in a heaven and a hell, and of free will and that you are free to choose for yourselfâ€
This is just another example of how the Christian Right who are public at least, like O’Reilly assert facts that they really know nothing about.
Barbara Walters tried to counter that by saying not all Christian religions believe this. He of course countered saying not the religion (there is a religion called Judeo-Christian? That’s an O’Reilly original), but the philosophy, whatever that means, and asserted she was wrong and this was fact.
Well Mr. O’Reilly, perhaps you should open that Bible you claim to know, and read about a little Judeo group called the Sadducee’s, who unfortunately do not meet your assertation that ALL Judeo-Christian philosophies believe in a Heaven and a Hell.
The Sadducee’s were a strong order because of collaboration with Rome, and prospered from around 200 BC until right after the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. The Sadducee’s were a Judeo sect that did not believe in Heaven, and they did not believe in Hell.
So once More O’Reilly shows us just how much he really knows about nothing.
But he did end the show with one little gem of wisdom.
He said “who know’s, maybe I’m the dummy”
Amen Mr. O’Reilly, amen.
December 21st, 2005 at 3:32 pm“Now I made a mistake a few days ago when I said clothing was included in that party dictum. Clothing was not included. It was colors of plates and cupcakes and things like that.”
He did make a mistake, so what? The issue is still the losers at the Plano, TX ISD that are banning the Christmas colors. Can you imagine that Plano ISD has been fighting in court TWO YEARS for the right to tell the students what color paper plates they can eat off of at a Christmas party? The same school district has also banned some kid from passing out red and green candy canes with a Christmas message attached.
This is nothing more than fat-assed Left Wing losers with nothing better to do than harass kids at Christmas time. Plano by the way is solid Republican and you can bet your sweet bippy when elections roll around there will be some changes made. It’s totally disgusting but typical of the anti-Christian bias of public education.
December 21st, 2005 at 3:37 pmIRI,
Christmas is a PAGAN holiday, and ‘christmas colors’ are pagan symbols. Why do you hate christianity so much? Is it just ignorance, or inherent anti-christian bias that comes from you living a sinful life as a divorcee?
December 21st, 2005 at 3:39 pmI know you said you were going to keep an eye on it… just curious…
Gregor, I told unbelievable about this a couple days ago … he did NOT retract that story/comment.
Giacomo, no offense, but that’s exactly how it appears. Why the need to be instrumental?
I should have snarked it.
You remembered Grasping for Relevance? And yet you forget facts, details and information that proves you are wrong so easily. That sort of ’selective memory’ is classic among those who practice ‘wishcraft’ and ‘delusional thinking’. Why don’t you expand some of that capacity to points that actually matter, like protecting our constitution.
Nice that I afforded you the opportunity to feel superior … cheers.
December 21st, 2005 at 3:40 pmIRI, have you lost weight? I haven’t seen you for so long and you look skinnier. I admire your discipline to not eat during this, the MERRIEST of seasons.
December 21st, 2005 at 4:00 pmIt might just be me, but I feel like our country has more important issues to discuss–the war, hurricane reconstruction, healthcare, civil liberties–than “the colors of plates and cupcakes,†regardless of what side of the aisle you’re on.
Comment by Justin Weitz
To the Filthy Left Justin, there isn’t much of anything more important than denigrating Christians and spoiling our Holy Celebrations.
December 21st, 2005 at 4:06 pmI shrugged and turned around to leave, at which point she said, “People say ‘Merry Christmas.’†I just said, “Well, I didn’t know you were Christian†and left.
Now, it’s fine if people want to boycott their local Target because they’re dissatisfied with with the greeting they receive. Stupid, but their choice. However, this foot soldier O’Reilly’s “war†was bitchy to me, a Jewish customer giving her a nice tip, because I didn’t use her preferred greeting. How stupid.
Way to suck the fun out of the holiday season and the cordiality out of normal business transactions.
Comment by Dave —
The lady is right Dave, people do say Merry Christmas, even Jews that tip. Next time smile and say, “and a Happy Hanukkah to you too”. You’ll get a smile and a Happy Hanukkah back. It’s not that hard to be a decent fellow this time of year.
Oh, by the way…the only friend a Jew has on this entire Rock are a few other Jews and Conservative American Christians. Your Marxist brothers at the ACLU and elsewhere are trying everything they know to change all that. Merry Christmas.
December 21st, 2005 at 4:20 pmTo the Filthy Left Justin, there isn’t much of anything more important than denigrating Christians and spoiling our Holy Celebrations.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 21, 2005 @ 4:06 pm
I-DESECRATE-I
You desecrate the name of Christ, every time you open your filthy mouth to preach your gospel of blood, war and horror.
December 21st, 2005 at 4:21 pmThe New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11
David Ray Griffin, Michael Meacher MP
This is a must read BUSH knew of 911 theres hundreds of bit of proof in this book
December 21st, 2005 at 4:22 pm#24
Yeah, you certainly should pick your battles. It’s why I figure it’s not worth wishing them anything in the first place but a nice day.
Once had a Jehovah’s Witness rebuke me for wishing her a happy Thanksgiving, because she said that we should be thankful all year long. I decided her getting upset was not worth it. Few poeple have a problem with wishing them a nice day… though a few trolls in here might… let’s see…
HAVE A NICE DAY EVERYONE!!!
December 21st, 2005 at 4:26 pmHAVE A NICE DAY EVERYONE!!!
Comment by unbelievable
Bitch.
December 21st, 2005 at 4:34 pm“Nice that I afforded you the opportunity to feel superior … cheers.
Comment by Giacomo”
Who needs ‘feelings’ when clearly there’s proof :()
December 21st, 2005 at 4:35 pmThis is a must read BUSH knew of 911 theres hundreds of bit of proof in this book
Comment by Liverpool
Hell, everyone knew except you.
December 21st, 2005 at 4:36 pmHAVE A NICE DAY EVERYONE!!!
Comment by unbelievable
Bitch.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 21, 2005 @ 4:34 pm
No you didn’t! ………Did you?
Naahhh, someone must be impersonating you.
I know you wouldn’t just post that, would you?
December 21st, 2005 at 4:36 pmYou heard it here folks, IRI thinks ‘civil liberties’ is a marxist idea, and that the pagan holiday ‘yule’ is a religious celebration.
So in otherwords, just like hitler, he’s a ‘pagan rightwing christian’ with psychotic murdering tendencies.
Not that I needed to clear that up for anyone who’s read his psychotic racist rantings :()
GeoMetro, you keep ‘fine’ company, your momma must be proud of her little mussolini.
December 21st, 2005 at 4:37 pmworfeus,
IRI was ’self reflecting’, closet pedophiles like him/her often act out that way.
December 21st, 2005 at 4:38 pmI find that now, although I thought I didn’t care about all this silliness, after this “war on” war from Billy, I resent having to wish someone Merry Christmas because I feel that I’m being FORCED to do it. So where I used to try to wish Merry Christmas to Christians, now I don’t. Do I think they care? No, not really. But I care about being bullied by fools.
December 21st, 2005 at 4:41 pmThat was a low thing to say. I am really kinda surprised by even him.
It really shows his true character, or lack therof, to speak to a woman like that.
I’m embarrassed for him.
December 21st, 2005 at 4:42 pmI emailed Bill and wished him a happy Saturnalia.
December 21st, 2005 at 5:31 pmUnbelievable, it looks like IRI was trying in his own sick way to flirt with you again.
If conservatives really wanted religious ceremonies to stay the same that they always have been, they would ban Christmas, just like the Puritans and quite a few local governments did at the time the Constitution was written.
December 21st, 2005 at 5:35 pmAnd again, there’s nothing wrong with her saying “Merry Christmas” to me. I was not offended. And the fact that I’m Jewish is irrelevant to the discussion. The main point was that I was a customer. That’s why I found her offended and admonishing attitude bizarre.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:15 pmOh, by the way…the only friend a Jew has on this entire Rock are a few other Jews and Conservative American Christians. Your Marxist brothers at the ACLU and elsewhere are trying everything they know to change all that. Merry Christmas.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I
I know you are incapable of it, but you should be ashamed of yourself.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:16 pmSo where I used to try to wish Merry Christmas to Christians, now I don’t. Do I think they care? No, not really. But I care about being bullied by fools.
Comment by Solitaire
Really? Now if someone says “Merry Christmas” you just turn up your nose put on your best Walking Dead Loser sneer and walk away? Be sure and wear your Bush=Hitler T-shirt when you do that, K?
Here’s the dealio, nobody cares what you c**ksu**ers think or do but when you force your hate filled idiocy on us through the courts and in the media you’re going to find that we aren’t about to surrender our traditions to a bunch of human animals with an agenda.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:22 pmI know you are incapable of it, but you should be ashamed of yourself.
Comment by Zookeeper
If you can explain why I’ll certainly consider it.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:23 pm#39
Bitch.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 21, 2005 @ 4:34 pm
See what I mean? (although I know he was playing, it still validates my premise :)
December 21st, 2005 at 6:26 pmAnd again, there’s nothing wrong with her saying “Merry Christmas†to me. I was not offended. And the fact that I’m Jewish is irrelevant to the discussion. The main point was that I was a customer. That’s why I found her offended and admonishing attitude bizarre.
Comment by Dave
I guess it’s too much to ask of a Left Wing Jew to reply “Merry Christmas” instead of “and a luke warm sort of holiday to you too M’am.” The fact that you are Jewish is irrelevant. The fact that you’re a Left Wing Loser with a chip on your shoulder isn’t.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:27 pm#39
Bitch.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 21, 2005 @ 4:34 pm
See what I mean? (although I know he was playing, it still validates my premise :)
Comment by unbelievable
Does not.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:30 pm#48
Unbelievable, it looks like IRI was trying in his own sick way to flirt with you again.
Marc, see what I mean, he’s absolutely head-over-heels crazy with love with me… :)
Actually, guys, I think he was playing. Underneath all that psychotic delusion, he occasionally tries to muster a sense of humor. It’s usually off color, as usual (why there are only liberal shows on Comedy Central)… but thanks for the comments. Reminds me why liberal men are so much more attractive.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:32 pmRed and Green are the national colors of Portugal. Plano, TX is making sure none of its children are subverted by foreign, European sort of Liberal ideas by making sure their clothes and dishes don’t display this covert support for a foreign power.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:33 pm“Here’s the dealio, nobody cares what you c**ksu**ers think or do” MizzWrong
And yet you care so much that you take time from your ‘busy’ life to come spend time with us. How psychotic and pathetic is that for you?
Wow, that must make you the most sad and miserable non-christian in texas. Poor loser!
December 21st, 2005 at 6:37 pmMizzWrong,
You still haven’t explained why you practice paganism and celebrate the Pagan holiday of Yule (christmas) with all of its pagan symbols (Tree, Holly, Presents, Mistletoe).
Why are you so unchristian? Was it the divorce that turned you into a lost soul, or was that what caused your divorce and fall from grace?
It must be awful for you to believe so strongly in something, only to fail so miserably in your own life that you’ll never taste the success of your desires. Poor lost soul, no wonder you’re clinically insane…
December 21st, 2005 at 6:39 pm#54
I guess it’s too much to ask of a Left Wing Jew to reply “Merry Christmas†instead of “and a luke warm sort of holiday to you too M’am.†The fact that you are Jewish is irrelevant. The fact that you’re a Left Wing Loser with a chip on your shoulder isn’t.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 21, 2005 @ 6:27 pm
If you actually had friends, you might understand how ridiculous you’re being. I had friends come visit me when I was living in California during Christmas week. They were all Jewish, yet every time someone wished them a Merry Christmas, they replied with smiles “Merry Christmas to you do”. My Hindu friend from Mumbai (that’s in India) always wishes people a “Merry Christmas”. Not every one is insecure and hates others who are different. Even I wish people a mery Christmas and I’m an Atheist. So don’t be silly.
Maybe you should ask Santa for an attitude adjustment…
December 21st, 2005 at 6:39 pmActually, guys, I think he was playing. Underneath all that psychotic delusion, he occasionally tries to muster a sense of humor.
Comment by unbelievable
Are you kidding me. I’m the only one on this board with a sense of humor. Show me something funny from one of these Left Wing Loser friends of yours.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:43 pmI’m embarrassed for him.
Comment by WORFEUS — December 21, 2005 @ 4:42 pm
Thank you. Remember I teach high school – so I’m laughing. Not wallace rolling around on the floor style, but close :)
December 21st, 2005 at 6:45 pmMaybe you should ask Santa for an attitude adjustment…
Comment by unbelievable
Me need an attitude adjustment? If you were half way honest you’d tell the losers whining about people saying “Merry Christmas” to them that they need a little adjustment. I’ve got one for them too. It’s called IRI’s Merry Christmas Clue Boot” upside their ass, adjustment.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:47 pmAre you kidding me. I’m the only one on this board with a sense of humor. Show me something funny from one of these Left Wing Loser friends of yours.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 21, 2005 @ 6:43 pm
Down boy. I told them you were playing… what more do you want? You were funny. Raw, but funny. I got it. I am laughing… It’s all in good humor. Okay?
But you gotta admit, they did stick up for me. And I’m allowed to appreciate that as well.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:50 pmBut you gotta admit, they did stick up for me. And I’m allowed to appreciate that as well.
Comment by unbelievable
Birds of a feather get the bird flu.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:51 pmAll this talk of sex and boots to the ass of Left Wing Losers makes me hungry. Dang. I think tonight it’s the Chinese (Taiwan Ex-pats)buffet. Gotta go.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:54 pmIRI must have toxic shock syndrome again. Go change your week old tampon you sloppy hose bag.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:55 pm#63
Me need an attitude adjustment? If you were half way honest you’d tell the losers whining about people saying “Merry Christmas†to them that they need a little adjustment. I’ve got one for them too. It’s called IRI’s Merry Christmas Clue Boot†upside their ass, adjustment.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 21, 2005 @ 6:47 pm
Why do you want to force people to do anything that’s against their will? That’s the part I don’t get.
You can tell me Happy Hannukah, Happy Kwanzaa or Happy Holidays and I won’t be offended because I know it’s the sentiment. But to force me to celebrate it, and that’s where I will get upset.
But I think people also have a right to get upset over anything. I just think you getting upset about that, or anything else you can’t control is assinine. And why does it even matter if they don’t matter? Do you even know? Or do you just like to be angry over things you can’t control to look insane?
December 21st, 2005 at 6:55 pmI guess it’s too much to ask of a Left Wing Jew to reply “Merry Christmas†instead of “and a luke warm sort of holiday to you too M’am.†The fact that you are Jewish is irrelevant. The fact that you’re a Left Wing Loser with a chip on your shoulder isn’t.
Since you have the reading comprehension of a pre-schooler, let’s go over the story again. *First* I said “Happy Holidays.” *Then* she gave me a dirty look and a stern “Merry Christmas….People say ‘Merry Christmas.’” She wasn’t wishing me a Merry Christmas, she was trying to give me an etiquette lesson.
The idea that I have a chip on my shoulder is hilarious. People who get in a tizzy over the way that someone greets them during the holiday season are the ones with chips on their shoulders.
For what it’s worth, when my Jewish co-worker and I gave our secretary her Christmas present yesterday, we wished her a “Merry Christmas”.
And my Catholic boss just wished me a “Happy Holidays” when he left today. I’m sure that his Christmas has been ruined, absolutely and completely ruined!
December 21st, 2005 at 6:56 pmMe and Mom are going to rock the trailer tonight! If I get off first, I get dibs on the pork rinds.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:58 pm#70
I really don’t need that visual… especially this close to dinner.
December 21st, 2005 at 6:59 pmOne more for the road from my inbox:
For my Democrat Friends:
“Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best
wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible,
low-stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the winter
solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the
religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your
choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion and/or
traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or
secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally successful,
personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the
onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2006, but not without due
respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures who contribute
For my Republican Friends:
Here’s wishing all of You a
Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah and a Happy New Year
December 21st, 2005 at 7:03 pmWell, I see I-RIGHT-I has been making a complete, utter fool of himself -yet again.
And once again Unbelievable is to be commended for showing an amazing restraint. Must the Christmas ;-)
Merry Christmas everyone! -except for you I-RIGHT-I. You get a politically correct, socially conscious, non-denominational Happy Holidays wish.
December 21st, 2005 at 7:09 pmMerry Christmas everyone! -except for you I-RIGHT-I. You get a politically correct, socially conscious, non-denominational Happy Holidays wish.
Comment by Gregor Samsa — December 21, 2005 @ 7:09 pm
See IRI, that was funny…
December 21st, 2005 at 9:13 pm#73
Gregor,
My mom worked with handicapped and mentally retarded children when I was growing up. She taught me to be tolerant of people who are challenged :)
Merry Christmas to you too!
December 21st, 2005 at 9:16 pmO’Reilly Defects
It would appear that a soldier has fallen in the Fox News War on the War on Christmas. Take off your caps, and give a moment of silence for a soldier fallen in the line of duty. Sgt. Falafel Bill…
December 21st, 2005 at 9:19 pmMonday night, O’Reilly said, “Happy Holidays is fine.
Of course it is…
December 21st, 2005 at 10:11 pmMan, I love reading all the troll posts! Their rants are much more entertaining than television.
December 21st, 2005 at 10:19 pmI say cut him some slack, guys! I believe he is starting to get pissed with Bush. There is so much a brain can take after all. And whatever one may think of O’Reilly, one thing he’s not is Stupid.
December 21st, 2005 at 11:49 pmMy mom worked with handicapped and mentally retarded children when I was growing up. She taught me to be tolerant of people who are challenged :)
Comment by unbelievable — December 21, 2005 @ 9:16 pm
See I-RIGHT-I? That was hilarious! ;-)
December 22nd, 2005 at 12:32 amI wonder what Bill would think about this:
Link.
I found it on ebay and thought it would make the perfect present for O’Leilly.
December 22nd, 2005 at 1:36 amIRI- Admit it, you wish you were like us because we provide for you more truth and charm than Mighty Aphrodite. Just come out of your shell and admit that you agree with us.
You’ll feel better.
#79 You’re right. O’Reilly isn’t stupid. He’s REALLY,
December 22nd, 2005 at 2:38 amUNDENIABLY STUPID.
Ryan and Gregor,
I’ve noticed many liberal political shows on Comedy Central over the years, but ZERO reicht-wing political shows. And for very good reasons…
December 22nd, 2005 at 8:27 amMerry Christmas everyone! -except for you I-RIGHT-I. You get a politically correct, socially conscious, non-denominational Happy Holidays wish.
Comment by Gregor Samsa — December 21, 2005 @ 7:09 pm
See IRI, that was funny…
Comment by unbelievable
Not near as funny as when I first said it.
December 22nd, 2005 at 10:00 am#85
Not near as funny as when I first said it.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 22, 2005 @ 10:00 am
Actually… you didn’t say it, you posted a copy of an email that someone else sent you… :)
December 22nd, 2005 at 10:40 amIRI spends a lot of time insulting people on this site, doesn’t he? I mean, he calls me “hate-filled” when it is so obvious from every missive that he sends that his little heart is seething with hatred for anyone who disagrees with him… “human animals” I think was the description! He is an example of the kind of mind that will never open. Ever.
December 22nd, 2005 at 10:52 amClosed. Out to lunch. Don’t bother coming back later, it will be closed then too. Discussion, facts, truth will never mean anything to him, because he is not interested in truth, he is more interested in abusing people on the net. It has attacted, I’m afraid, an element of our society that finds their kicks by verbally abusing others without stepping up to the repercussions that abuse in most other situations would entail. He’s a coward. He’s sick in his soul. And taking his illness out on us has been his M.O. as long as I’ve watched this site. It’s unfortunate. It’s a waste of energy dealing with that.
#87
I’ve read several studies that indicate people who are abusive have been or are being abused. Just like the little boy who got a spanking then went and kicked the dog…
Republicans are being abused by their own party. I’m hardly surprised abuse is all most of them offer us. Especially as they are self-destructively imploding.
I don’t take IRI personally. I don’t think he’s a bad person, he is just obliviously loyal to a religious sect and a political party that teach him hatred and violence to solve problems. Why else would he be in here hanging out with tree-huggers, hippies, vegans and our peace-mongering types if we weren’t preferable to his chosen neocons? :)
December 22nd, 2005 at 12:30 pm“Why else would he be in here hanging out with tree-huggers, hippies, vegans and our peace-mongering types if we weren’t preferable to his chosen neocons?”
December 22nd, 2005 at 1:20 pmBecause he is a bully and an abuser, and this is where he can find people to abuse. I’m sure he has other sites where he does the same. Civil discourse in unmistakable, abuse is likewise. My guess is that this guy doesn’t have anyone in his life to kick around, so he does it on the net. I think it has a pathology, and truthfully, I am really tired of the sicko types taking advantage of everyone else’s kind and forgiving nature.
I don’t take IRI personally. I don’t think he’s a bad person,
Comment by unbelievable
Now that was a nice thing to say in a left handed compliment sort of way. On thing though, I’m no fan of neo-conservatives. A faithless man of the Left or the Right is no asset to a free people.
December 22nd, 2005 at 2:25 pm#90
Now that was a nice thing to say in a left handed compliment sort of way. On thing though, I’m no fan of neo-conservatives. A faithless man of the Left or the Right is no asset to a free people.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 22, 2005 @ 2:25 pm
You should be glad I don’t take your comments to me personally, seeing as I’m the only woman speaking to you at present – and probably for quite a while now…
The neo-cons are evangelical. That’s not faithless. It’s uber-faithful in a demented sort of way.
Faith in anything is dangerous to a free people. Thinking for yourself is all the self-defense you will ever need. Check out Prague v. USSR, or Gandhi v. British Empire…
December 22nd, 2005 at 2:33 pm#92
Because he is a bully and an abuser, and this is where he can find people to abuse. I’m sure he has other sites where he does the same. Civil discourse in unmistakable, abuse is likewise. My guess is that this guy doesn’t have anyone in his life to kick around, so he does it on the net. I think it has a pathology, and truthfully, I am really tired of the sicko types taking advantage of everyone else’s kind and forgiving nature.
Comment by Solitaire — December 22, 2005 @ 1:20 pm
I do understand your point. Very well. I had a rough childhood. But, I also believe that you have to give someone your permission to abuse you. I know he has tried with me, but because I didn’t let his feministic remarks get to me, he’s mostly stopped doing it (the intentional stuff anyway). I do not think my conversations with him are abusive on either end anymore (except for those occasional moments when he realizes that he actually likes a liberal atheist feminist :).
And I think that’s the thing with a lot of the trolls in here they are paid to frustrate us. We started ignoring wwallace and he changed his screen name. IRI has several identities and the same seems true for most of them. They aren’t worth worrying about. It’s the Dick Cheneys and Tom Delays we should be worried about…
And yes, IRI, I know you read this. It wasn’t personal.
December 22nd, 2005 at 2:47 pmThe neo-cons are evangelical. That’s not faithless. It’s uber-faithful in a demented sort of way.
Comment by unbelievable
You don’t even know what a neo-con is. Look it up. Dear Lord woman! A neo-con is a former left wing Jew turned conservative to meet the threat of the Left to Israel. That’s very simple but essentially correct. David Horowitz former Red Diaper Jew Baby from the NYC communist communes says he saw the light when his idealistic comrades turned bloodthirsty apologists for every vice and crime perpetuated in the service of the Soviet. There’s a lot of different ground to cover with these guys but none of it gets near evangelical Christianity. You don’t know what words mean anymore. The scary part to me is I know there are tens of thousands of numbnuts like you teaching America’s children.
December 22nd, 2005 at 5:08 pm#93
IRI
You’re just jealous that I dated a guy who graduated from Harvard.
And here’s the actual definition (ask Santa for a secular dictionary) courtesy of http://www.dictionary.com:
ne·o·con·ser·va·tism also ne·o-con·ser·va·tism
Pronunciation Key (n-kn-sûrv-tzm)
n.
An intellectual and political movement in favor of political, economic, and social conservatism that arose in opposition to the perceived liberalism of the 1960s: “The neo-conservatism of the 1980s is a replay of the New Conservatism of the 1950s, which was itself a replay of the New Era philosophy of the 1920s†(Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr.).
Also:
evangelical
adj 1: relating to or being a Christian church believing in personal conversion and the inerrancy of the Bible especially the 4 Gospels; “evangelical Christianity”; “an ultraconservative evangelical message” 2: of or pertaining to or in keeping with the Christian gospel especially as in the first 4 books of the New Testament 3: marked by ardent or zealous enthusiasm for a cause
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December 22nd, 2005 at 6:20 pmGood thing I’m teaching and not you! I shutter to think what you would actually teach. What Nazi gave you your dictionary?
This is from a consevative source. Nothing about the Jews or Israel. You’re clearly confused. This is exactly what I’ve belived it to be – a conservative reaction to the Revolutionary Liberalism of the ’60s… Same as the Fundamentalism reaction to it. But both are waning and there is a liberal mindset that will replace it… Think of it like a giant pendulum, which over the course of history has swung back and forth…
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/000tzmlw.asp
Viewed in this way, one can say that the historical task and political purpose of neoconservatism would seem to be this: to convert the Republican party, and American conservatism in general, against
their respective wills, into a new kind of conservative politics suitable to governing a modern democracy. That this new conservative politics is distinctly American is beyond doubt. There is nothing like neoconservatism in Europe, and most European conservatives are highly skeptical of its legitimacy. The fact that conservatism in the United States is so much healthier than in Europe, so much more politically effective, surely has something to do with the existence of neoconservatism. But Europeans, who think it absurd to look to the United States for lessons in political innovation, resolutely refuse to consider this possibility.
Neoconservatism is the first variant of American conservatism in the past century that is in the “American grain.” It is hopeful, not lugubrious; forward-looking, not nostalgic; and its general tone is cheerful, not grim or dyspeptic. Its 20th-century heroes tend to be TR, FDR, and Ronald Reagan. Such Republican and conservative worthies as Calvin Coolidge, Herbert Hoover, Dwight Eisenhower, and Barry Goldwater are politely overlooked. Of course, those worthies are in no way overlooked by a large, probably the largest, segment of the Republican party, with the result that most Republican politicians know nothing and could not care less about neoconservatism. Nevertheless, they cannot be blind to the fact that neoconservative policies, reaching out beyond the traditional political and financial base, have helped make the very idea of political conservatism more acceptable to a majority of American voters. Nor has it passed official notice that it is the neoconservative public policies, not the traditional Republican ones, that result in popular Republican presidencies.
December 22nd, 2005 at 6:30 pmAnyway, getting to the real point – neoconservatives saw the evangelical movement (and religion in general) as something that could benefit conservatism. They cynically encouraged it and at the same time tried to drive religious people away from soulless liberalism.
December 22nd, 2005 at 9:35 pmThey cynically encouraged it and at the same time tried to drive religious people away from soulless liberalism.
Thanks for the laugh… I think of Dick Cheney, Chimp, et al and how hypocritical the neocons all are. Makes me proud to be a liberal Atheist!
December 22nd, 2005 at 10:23 pmAnyway, getting to the real point – neoconservatives saw the evangelical movement (and religion in general) as something that could benefit conservatism. They cynically encouraged it and at the same time tried to drive religious people away from soulless liberalism.
Comment by Dave
Nonsense. The Christian conservatives have been raising hell long before mental midgets like you ever learned to use the catchy phrase “neo-con” in a sentence. Religious people and even great Americans who were not particularly religious have known for the better part of two centuries that Liberalism is antithetical to the Christian faith and to a nation that is dependent upon a moral people.
December 23rd, 2005 at 2:52 pmGood thing I’m teaching and not you! I shutter to think what you would actually teach. What Nazi gave you your dictionary?
Comment by unbelievable
You got your definition out of a liberal textbook. I got my definition out of the mouth of the first men identified as a neo-cons.
If I was in your stead the first thing I’d do is toss out your re-written history books and the smut that passes for civics and start over. In addition, I’d make sure that those in my care didn’t grow up believing anyone who didn’t follow the Progressive/Communist line was a Nazi, that homosexuals are gay and that poor people deserve the money they earn. That would be day one.
On day two I’d take them down to the Black part of town and let them see first hand what 50 years of Liberalism does to a once proud and self sufficient people. On day three we’d go to a state prison and take a look at what happens to those who didn’t do their homework. That’s what I’d do.
December 23rd, 2005 at 3:03 pmYou got your definition out of a liberal textbook. IRI
What part of my writing This is from a consevative source. from #95 did you not understand? I’ve never heard your definition. No one I know has ever heard your definition, and I asked some conservatives. You claim that you got it from a person? You, the same guy who believes a mythical god also speaks to you? Sorry, your sources are suspect.
the first thing I’d do is toss out your re-written history books and the smut that passes for civics and start over. IRI
Your ignorance in regard to the Education system is astounding. No wonder you have so much to say about it. People with the least amount of knowledge are usually the first ones to offer their hair-brained schemes. Teachers don’t pick the books, they are approved and sanctioned by the state Board of Education. Teachers are bound to them by the school Districts for whom they work. So, you couldn’t throw out anything, unless you wanted to lose your credentials. That’s the reality of hierarchy for you. And why you people should stop blaming teachers for the mindless drivel your kids get taught.
On day two I’d take them down to the Black part of town and let them see first hand what 50 years of Liberalism does to a once proud and self sufficient people.
Don’t you mean what kidnapping them from their country, forcing them to abandon their culture while picking cotton or clearing the mansions of rich white Americans while being beaten and degraded for their skin color did to them? And don’t forget the racism of forcing them to sit in the back of the bus, or drink from a different water fountain, or denying them equal jobs with equal pay, or teaching your white children to fear them did to them. Not only should you not be selecting textbooks, you should definitely not be allowed anywhere near history class as you know so little of it youself.
On day three we’d go to a state prison and take a look at what happens to those who didn’t do their homework.
A little drastic? For not doing their homework? See, you neocons ARE all about fear mongering in order to get obedience. Taking them there to show them what happens if they commit crimes is one thing that I have seen work. But for not doing their homework? Part of teaching them to be good little fascist slaves?
I know you need to think you are right. But you haven’t experienced life, how can you possibly teach anyone anything about it? Life is not about how much theory you comprehend – it’s about how much experience you acquire. Clearly you have none. Have you ever even left Texas?
Again, good thing your job is to troll. You’re not fooling anyone.
December 23rd, 2005 at 6:15 pmReligious people and even great Americans who were not particularly religious have known for the better part of two centuries that Liberalism is antithetical to the Christian faith and to a nation that is dependent upon a moral people.
Comment by I-RIGHT-I — December 23, 2005 @ 2:52 pm
Moral people? Who? Your side is filled with pedophiles, Gluttonous pigs, perverts, war mongers, rapists and thugs. Don’t you understand that by forbidding people to do something, you insure that they will do it. By allowing people the freedom to choose for themselves, aside form those with innate psychosis, people will invariably choose wisely. It’s a fact. We’re smarter than all other living beings who don’t have any moral guidelines and are actually behaving better than we are.
Religion stole its sense of morality from humans, as humans existed prior to religion – not the other way around. As usual your argument is devoid of reality and rationality.
I am far more moral than you. And I have no religion.
December 23rd, 2005 at 6:21 pmIRI
One other thing – if you don’t like the textbooks the consevative State Education System is picking, then stop voting for the consevatives who pick them.
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