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		<title>By: Iraq Information Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Article from Think Progress - Administration embedding conservative bloggers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iraq Information Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Article from Think Progress - Administration embedding conservative bloggers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/27/administration-embedding-conservative-bloggers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-349359</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Good news!&lt;/strong&gt;

Iraq has a newly elected government and now enjoy the bounties of Democracy.

The Iraqi people love America and thank them for this beautiful gift.

The troops feel very proud of their service.

Yeah, its true!

The U.S. and its coalition partners services are no longer needed.

&lt;strong&gt;Welcome home our fine brave soldiers!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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<p>Iraq has a newly elected government and now enjoy the bounties of Democracy.</p>
<p>The Iraqi people love America and thank them for this beautiful gift.</p>
<p>The troops feel very proud of their service.</p>
<p>Yeah, its true!</p>
<p>The U.S. and its coalition partners services are no longer needed.</p>
<p><strong>Welcome home our fine brave soldiers!</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=349359', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: gary jarvis</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/27/administration-embedding-conservative-bloggers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-349263</link>
		<dc:creator>gary jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 21:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are sending Jeff Gannon number one ace in the rear hole to report all the good news about slaves that are owned by contractors to work for nothing.  It&#039;s good news for the contractors indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are sending Jeff Gannon number one ace in the rear hole to report all the good news about slaves that are owned by contractors to work for nothing.  It&#8217;s good news for the contractors indeed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=349263', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EasyRider</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/27/administration-embedding-conservative-bloggers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-349159</link>
		<dc:creator>EasyRider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 21:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If any government funds were donated to help get these bloggers into the embedded bloggers program then we have a criminal use of public funds.

Track the money trail, it will be fun to see the rats running around trying to cover their tracks. Then again these rats don&#039;t really try to hide much. The more that is exposed to public review the more brazzen they get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If any government funds were donated to help get these bloggers into the embedded bloggers program then we have a criminal use of public funds.</p>
<p>Track the money trail, it will be fun to see the rats running around trying to cover their tracks. Then again these rats don&#8217;t really try to hide much. The more that is exposed to public review the more brazzen they get.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=349159', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dano347</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/27/administration-embedding-conservative-bloggers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-348971</link>
		<dc:creator>dano347</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right-wing bloggers have just been knee-capped by the Bush administration, but they don&#039;t yet know it.  It will become readily apparent in the coming months, however.  The Bush administration&#039;s revelations about buying positive spin in Iraqi news outlets, mixed with the Armstrong Williams, Maggie Gallagher, James Guckert -style tactics previously employed, and the conservative &quot;embeds&quot; blogging happy news from Iraq, paints a picture of conservatives (and conservative bloggers in particular) as being paid shills for the government - and as such they are now reduced to cartoonish, two-dimensional representations of the conservative cause - no more &quot;true believers&quot; than the little old ladies who staff phone-sex businesses are kinky nyphos.

Any conservative, pro-Bush spin can now effectively be countered just by saying &quot;typical spin from a paid shill&quot;.  Proving the negative - that they are NOT a paid megaphone for the Bush administration - cannot effectively be done without subjecting their financial affairs to intense scrutiny (more scrutiny than they would find comfortable, I&#039;m sure).  So don&#039;t bother with facts, logic, moral or ethical dimensions when debating conservatives online - that&#039;s not what they&#039;re there for; they&#039;re in it for that easy money offered to parrot propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right-wing bloggers have just been knee-capped by the Bush administration, but they don&#8217;t yet know it.  It will become readily apparent in the coming months, however.  The Bush administration&#8217;s revelations about buying positive spin in Iraqi news outlets, mixed with the Armstrong Williams, Maggie Gallagher, James Guckert -style tactics previously employed, and the conservative &#8220;embeds&#8221; blogging happy news from Iraq, paints a picture of conservatives (and conservative bloggers in particular) as being paid shills for the government &#8211; and as such they are now reduced to cartoonish, two-dimensional representations of the conservative cause &#8211; no more &#8220;true believers&#8221; than the little old ladies who staff phone-sex businesses are kinky nyphos.</p>
<p>Any conservative, pro-Bush spin can now effectively be countered just by saying &#8220;typical spin from a paid shill&#8221;.  Proving the negative &#8211; that they are NOT a paid megaphone for the Bush administration &#8211; cannot effectively be done without subjecting their financial affairs to intense scrutiny (more scrutiny than they would find comfortable, I&#8217;m sure).  So don&#8217;t bother with facts, logic, moral or ethical dimensions when debating conservatives online &#8211; that&#8217;s not what they&#8217;re there for; they&#8217;re in it for that easy money offered to parrot propaganda.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=348971', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SpudgeBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>SpudgeBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;If this is so, how do these right wing blowhards actually claim the taps were â€œonlyâ€ used to fight terrorism?&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The same way they speak about anything. They lie. And the right wing media covers for them.

Here is the New York Times piece that discusses US only wiretaps. This piece came out in response to Bush admitting to the wiretapping and then saying it was only international communications.

New York Times
December 21, 2005
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/21/politics/21nsa.html?ei=5090&amp;en=4770d0165b0a7dde&amp;ex=1292821200&amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;emc=rss&amp;pagewanted=print&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Spying Program Snared U.S. Calls&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.n24.de/images/2005/07/11/zoom_2005071109231500030.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;null&quot; /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;If this is so, how do these right wing blowhards actually claim the taps were â€œonlyâ€ used to fight terrorism?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The same way they speak about anything. They lie. And the right wing media covers for them.</p>
<p>Here is the New York Times piece that discusses US only wiretaps. This piece came out in response to Bush admitting to the wiretapping and then saying it was only international communications.</p>
<p>New York Times<br />
December 21, 2005<br />
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/21/politics/21nsa.html?ei=5090&amp;en=4770d0165b0a7dde&amp;ex=1292821200&amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;emc=rss&amp;pagewanted=print" rel="nofollow">Spying Program Snared U.S. Calls</a></p>
<p><img src="http://www.n24.de/images/2005/07/11/zoom_2005071109231500030.jpg" alt="null" /><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=348941', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: good vibes</title>
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		<dc:creator>good vibes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question--- Does evidence exist showing  that the president  authorized spying on strictly domestic communications?
Is it true he was monitoring animal rights groups, peace activists, and Quakers? If this is so, how do these right wing blowhards actually claim the taps were &quot;only&quot; used to fight terrorism? Is there an article stating this evidence that someone could reference for me? 
 I really cannot wait to watch Bush attempt to explain this in front of congress. 
I predict new words will be created like &quot;Hispanically Speaking&quot;. Should be a show!

 Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question&#8212; Does evidence exist showing  that the president  authorized spying on strictly domestic communications?<br />
Is it true he was monitoring animal rights groups, peace activists, and Quakers? If this is so, how do these right wing blowhards actually claim the taps were &#8220;only&#8221; used to fight terrorism? Is there an article stating this evidence that someone could reference for me?<br />
 I really cannot wait to watch Bush attempt to explain this in front of congress.<br />
I predict new words will be created like &#8220;Hispanically Speaking&#8221;. Should be a show!</p>
<p> Thanks<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=348825', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Rider</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/27/administration-embedding-conservative-bloggers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-348681</link>
		<dc:creator>Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are over budget with Al Hurra and are trying to save money now by having bloggers do it for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are over budget with Al Hurra and are trying to save money now by having bloggers do it for free.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=348681', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;He who controls the media, controls the present. He who controls the present controls the past. He who controls the past controls the future.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;
Anyone who has not recently read (or reread) &lt;em&gt;&quot;1984&quot;&lt;/em&gt;  should do so.  It is the playbook for the Bushies.  
Propaganda directed toward the enemy in wartime is understood; propaganda toward our own citizens (military) is illegal.
Is this coming at a time when the election debacle needs to be overshadowed?  Is it timed to cover up that troops are NOT going to be withdrawn (or not re-deployed) as promised?
I have no doubt that certain humanitarian acts are being accomplished by the troops -- but where that fits into the entire scene is another story.  Soldiers are not trained to act as civil engineers and police enforcement, yet after three years, the Iraqis are unable to stand alone. Their country has been destroyed, their government is in disarray, and they are near civil war among themselves.  
Bush and Rumsfeld&#039;s propaganda is simply a smoke screen.</description>
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<blockquote><p>He who controls the media, controls the present. He who controls the present controls the past. He who controls the past controls the future.</p></blockquote>
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Anyone who has not recently read (or reread) <em>&#8220;1984&#8243;</em>  should do so.  It is the playbook for the Bushies.<br />
Propaganda directed toward the enemy in wartime is understood; propaganda toward our own citizens (military) is illegal.<br />
Is this coming at a time when the election debacle needs to be overshadowed?  Is it timed to cover up that troops are NOT going to be withdrawn (or not re-deployed) as promised?<br />
I have no doubt that certain humanitarian acts are being accomplished by the troops &#8212; but where that fits into the entire scene is another story.  Soldiers are not trained to act as civil engineers and police enforcement, yet after three years, the Iraqis are unable to stand alone. Their country has been destroyed, their government is in disarray, and they are near civil war among themselves.<br />
Bush and Rumsfeld&#8217;s propaganda is simply a smoke screen.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=348590', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: TJM</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two Americans a day are killed and according to the State Department&#039;s quarterly report,since 1/05 thru 9/05, 62 Iraqi security forces are casualties/day. That&#039;s close to a brigade a month. And that&#039;s with the Shiites and the Kurds either on our side or generally leaving us alone.

That&#039;s what makes the media reports of the &quot;historic&quot; Iraqi vote so naive. They voted so we&#039;d leave. The people care less about who&#039;s in charge than about having some security and stability.

This desire from a populace which has known little of either in the last 25 years is contrasted to here in the US where the populace since 9/11 seems willing to forego the constitution for an ephemeral security and stability delivered by an administration capable of delivering neither. The current policies seem driven to increase a sense of foreboding that can be salved only by a government security blanket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two Americans a day are killed and according to the State Department&#8217;s quarterly report,since 1/05 thru 9/05, 62 Iraqi security forces are casualties/day. That&#8217;s close to a brigade a month. And that&#8217;s with the Shiites and the Kurds either on our side or generally leaving us alone.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what makes the media reports of the &#8220;historic&#8221; Iraqi vote so naive. They voted so we&#8217;d leave. The people care less about who&#8217;s in charge than about having some security and stability.</p>
<p>This desire from a populace which has known little of either in the last 25 years is contrasted to here in the US where the populace since 9/11 seems willing to forego the constitution for an ephemeral security and stability delivered by an administration capable of delivering neither. The current policies seem driven to increase a sense of foreboding that can be salved only by a government security blanket.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=348575', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Miro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Administration embedding conservative bloggers with troops to publish favorable news about Iraq. 
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Welcome to the world of CLCs (Clever Little Conservatives)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Administration embedding conservative bloggers with troops to publish favorable news about Iraq.<br />
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<p>Welcome to the world of CLCs (Clever Little Conservatives)&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=348463', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dano347</title>
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		<dc:creator>dano347</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;[. . .]who,having been lied to by the government for so long, donâ€™t want to hear anything good anyway.&quot; 

Comment by TJM â€” December 27, 2005 @

You must do better - they won&#039;t pay unless you mention Clinton twice, and 9/11 three times - geez, didn&#039;t you get the memo?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[. . .]who,having been lied to by the government for so long, donâ€™t want to hear anything good anyway.&#8221; </p>
<p>Comment by TJM â€” December 27, 2005 @</p>
<p>You must do better &#8211; they won&#8217;t pay unless you mention Clinton twice, and 9/11 three times &#8211; geez, didn&#8217;t you get the memo?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=348456', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Pablo in Mexico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pablo in Mexico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am almost certain that most of us who read this blog site are aware that this president must be excised immediately. Seen the same thing years ago, in the Nixon administration, right?

Only one big difference. Nixon was just power hungry. This president is mentally ill and must be done away with at all costs, and as quickly as possible.

Iraq a democracy? The man and his rightwingnut jobbers are  crazy! The &quot;suits&quot; the president is paying millions to see him as a source of income, the resst of the Iraqis want us out of their beloved country.

In the meantime an average of two american military a day are killed. Do you think this bothers Bushsie boy? Hell no, he wallows in the misery just as dogs wallow on their bones while marking them.

Watch his speeches and his performances, if you can stomach them.Full of catch phrases and idiotic stuff, not cold hard facts. He is a low IQ cocaine sniffing alcoholic who has, and never will, amount to a hill of beans. He is ignorant, he is a loser, many times over. He cant even finish sentences in his speeches. He grinds his teeth. You know why? Because he is demented, knows he is lying and hopes, secretly, that redemption is coming. He wants to be put out of his misery and leave this earth as a hero, but knows that he will leave as a coward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am almost certain that most of us who read this blog site are aware that this president must be excised immediately. Seen the same thing years ago, in the Nixon administration, right?</p>
<p>Only one big difference. Nixon was just power hungry. This president is mentally ill and must be done away with at all costs, and as quickly as possible.</p>
<p>Iraq a democracy? The man and his rightwingnut jobbers are  crazy! The &#8220;suits&#8221; the president is paying millions to see him as a source of income, the resst of the Iraqis want us out of their beloved country.</p>
<p>In the meantime an average of two american military a day are killed. Do you think this bothers Bushsie boy? Hell no, he wallows in the misery just as dogs wallow on their bones while marking them.</p>
<p>Watch his speeches and his performances, if you can stomach them.Full of catch phrases and idiotic stuff, not cold hard facts. He is a low IQ cocaine sniffing alcoholic who has, and never will, amount to a hill of beans. He is ignorant, he is a loser, many times over. He cant even finish sentences in his speeches. He grinds his teeth. You know why? Because he is demented, knows he is lying and hopes, secretly, that redemption is coming. He wants to be put out of his misery and leave this earth as a hero, but knows that he will leave as a coward.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=348451', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: TJM</title>
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		<dc:creator>TJM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read Roggio&#039;s reports. He has good contacts inside the units in Iraq and has reported especially about the ops in Al Anbar province. While it can be seen as another source of info, he doesn&#039;t necessarily feel the same way in reverse,or at least his commenters don&#039;t. Tom Lasseter of Knight-Ridder spent a week embedded with an Iraqi unit this past summer (without Pentagon approval) and his reports were denigrated by Roggio&#039;s readers.
The split between those who want to look for good news and those who see the problems has grown wider recently.
The administration,military and civilian, has done a poor job in informing the public of the war (Pat Tillman comes to mind) and to expect that embedding bloggers to tell the &quot;real&quot; story is too little too late.
The real issue for me is that the media, cable,print and networks, have missed this boat as well. There are numerous reports filed by the government that have good news and bad. But you&#039;ll never see it unless you go get it yourself. 
This program will serve only to confirm good news fopr those who were expecting it and be dismissed as propaganda by those who,having been lied to by the government for so long, don&#039;t want to hear anything good anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read Roggio&#8217;s reports. He has good contacts inside the units in Iraq and has reported especially about the ops in Al Anbar province. While it can be seen as another source of info, he doesn&#8217;t necessarily feel the same way in reverse,or at least his commenters don&#8217;t. Tom Lasseter of Knight-Ridder spent a week embedded with an Iraqi unit this past summer (without Pentagon approval) and his reports were denigrated by Roggio&#8217;s readers.<br />
The split between those who want to look for good news and those who see the problems has grown wider recently.<br />
The administration,military and civilian, has done a poor job in informing the public of the war (Pat Tillman comes to mind) and to expect that embedding bloggers to tell the &#8220;real&#8221; story is too little too late.<br />
The real issue for me is that the media, cable,print and networks, have missed this boat as well. There are numerous reports filed by the government that have good news and bad. But you&#8217;ll never see it unless you go get it yourself.<br />
This program will serve only to confirm good news fopr those who were expecting it and be dismissed as propaganda by those who,having been lied to by the government for so long, don&#8217;t want to hear anything good anyway.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=348439', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dano347</title>
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		<dc:creator>dano347</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;Many people here reject the notion that, in spite of proven personal political leanings, much of the MSM reports in a biased (to the progressive) way â€¦ but everyone assumes that bloggers (conservatives) WOULD do so. Isnâ€™t that thinking a tad disningenuous?&quot; &lt;/em&gt;

Well consider the &quot;filters&quot; each must pass through in order for their words to reach print.  While reporters might be more liberal - their work must be ok&#039;d by their editors - and ultimately the publisher. Embedded bloggers have no such filter, as they don&#039;t rely on ad revenues (they&#039;re paid shills remember). Let&#039;s parse the embedded bloggers postings, and see how many report negative occurances; I&#039;ll bet those postings are few and far between.

Since all major media are controlled by five corporations, perhaps you could point us to which of these five are demonstrably liberal. And I don&#039;t mean just because a network might employ Dan Rather, either. Demonstrably liberal. I won&#039;t hold my breath waiting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Many people here reject the notion that, in spite of proven personal political leanings, much of the MSM reports in a biased (to the progressive) way â€¦ but everyone assumes that bloggers (conservatives) WOULD do so. Isnâ€™t that thinking a tad disningenuous?&#8221; </em></p>
<p>Well consider the &#8220;filters&#8221; each must pass through in order for their words to reach print.  While reporters might be more liberal &#8211; their work must be ok&#8217;d by their editors &#8211; and ultimately the publisher. Embedded bloggers have no such filter, as they don&#8217;t rely on ad revenues (they&#8217;re paid shills remember). Let&#8217;s parse the embedded bloggers postings, and see how many report negative occurances; I&#8217;ll bet those postings are few and far between.</p>
<p>Since all major media are controlled by five corporations, perhaps you could point us to which of these five are demonstrably liberal. And I don&#8217;t mean just because a network might employ Dan Rather, either. Demonstrably liberal. I won&#8217;t hold my breath waiting.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=348407', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: toys</title>
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		<dc:creator>toys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, with some &#039;independent observers&#039; stationed in those prisons, the entire torture scandal would have been avoided.  Wouldn&#039;t that be a good thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, with some &#8216;independent observers&#8217; stationed in those prisons, the entire torture scandal would have been avoided.  Wouldn&#8217;t that be a good thing?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=348379', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dano347</title>
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		<dc:creator>dano347</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Did anyone actually read the WaPo article? Far from propagandists, the bloggers live with the Marines and report what they observe â€¦ why conclude that their reports would be innaccurate?&lt;/em&gt;

Because they would be shown only those things the military WANTS them to see - geez, I guess this propaganda stuff really works; look how it caused Metro to shut down the logical part of his brain, and accept the party line at face value. Or were you just being willfully ignorant? 

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Many people here reject the notion that, in spite of proven personal political leanings, much of the MSM reports in a biased (to the progressive) way â€¦ but everyone assumes that bloggers (conservatives) WOULD do so. Isnâ€™t that thinking a tad disningenuous?&quot;&lt;/em&gt; 

Jim Guckert, Armstrong Williams, Maggie Gallagher . . . 

&quot;In addition, Iâ€™m sure that TP would be happy to provide one of their bloggers to go over to Iraq and report what they see (in the interest of fairness, of course).&quot; 

Comment by Giacomo â€” December 27, 2005 @ 11:30 am 

And if that blogger wanted to type something not favorable to the military (but true)?  We&#039;ve already seen how they treat reporters who aren&#039;t &quot;on message&quot;; they kill them.

Why don&#039;t YOU go? I&#039;m sure they would be glad to have such a staunch supporter giving &quot;their side&quot; of the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Did anyone actually read the WaPo article? Far from propagandists, the bloggers live with the Marines and report what they observe â€¦ why conclude that their reports would be innaccurate?</em></p>
<p>Because they would be shown only those things the military WANTS them to see &#8211; geez, I guess this propaganda stuff really works; look how it caused Metro to shut down the logical part of his brain, and accept the party line at face value. Or were you just being willfully ignorant? </p>
<p><em>&#8220;Many people here reject the notion that, in spite of proven personal political leanings, much of the MSM reports in a biased (to the progressive) way â€¦ but everyone assumes that bloggers (conservatives) WOULD do so. Isnâ€™t that thinking a tad disningenuous?&#8221;</em> </p>
<p>Jim Guckert, Armstrong Williams, Maggie Gallagher . . . </p>
<p>&#8220;In addition, Iâ€™m sure that TP would be happy to provide one of their bloggers to go over to Iraq and report what they see (in the interest of fairness, of course).&#8221; </p>
<p>Comment by Giacomo â€” December 27, 2005 @ 11:30 am </p>
<p>And if that blogger wanted to type something not favorable to the military (but true)?  We&#8217;ve already seen how they treat reporters who aren&#8217;t &#8220;on message&#8221;; they kill them.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t YOU go? I&#8217;m sure they would be glad to have such a staunch supporter giving &#8220;their side&#8221; of the story.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=348360', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: toys</title>
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		<dc:creator>toys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funniest part is some people took it &lt;i&gt;seriously&lt;/i&gt;.  Oh, a trolling we will go,...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funniest part is some people took it <i>seriously</i>.  Oh, a trolling we will go,&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=348353', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ptl</title>
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		<dc:creator>ptl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This comes just in time to help stem the future uproar over the US military&#039;s increased indiscriminant bombing, and the civilian casualties which will ensue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comes just in time to help stem the future uproar over the US military&#8217;s increased indiscriminant bombing, and the civilian casualties which will ensue.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=348350', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: -$$$</title>
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		<dc:creator>-$$$</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 16:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They target and kill liberal or independent journalists (in the future bloggers) in Iraq, don&#039;t they. The truth, and terrorists, are their enemy.
Better that they should all get back to tending their organic terra wrist farm in Iraq. Propaganda overload.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They target and kill liberal or independent journalists (in the future bloggers) in Iraq, don&#8217;t they. The truth, and terrorists, are their enemy.<br />
Better that they should all get back to tending their organic terra wrist farm in Iraq. Propaganda overload.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=348320', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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