VIDEO: DeLay And Abramoff Hug
By on Jan 3rd, 2006 at 5:11 pm
VIDEO: DeLay And Abramoff Hug
Rep. Tom DeLay is likely to face more legal problems as fallen lobbyist Jack Abramoff — one of his “closest and dearest friends” — cooperates with federal prosecutors.
But while DeLay will try to distance himself from Abramoff, the camera doesn’t lie. Watch it:
For more on DeLay’s involvement in the Abramoff scandal, click here.
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Maybe it is like Michael Corleone hugging Fredo?
January 3rd, 2006 at 5:16 pm“XXXOOOO, Oh I love you Tom” said Jack, “Not as much as I LOVE YOU!” said Tom.
And with that they disappeared into their lobbyist fincanced shared suite.
January 3rd, 2006 at 5:22 pmFor all the latest news, documents, legal filings and timelines on the growing Abramoff and Delay imbroglios, be sure to visit the Abramoff/Delay Scandal Center.
In the mean time, here’s an updated Most Wanted poster of the Banana Republicans:
http://www.perrspectives.com/images/banana_repubs_010306.jpg
January 3rd, 2006 at 5:23 pmIs that what you call a GOP reach around?
January 3rd, 2006 at 5:24 pmblaming this on Clinton starts in 5…..4……3…..
January 3rd, 2006 at 5:32 pmIt’s the REPUBLICAN-controlled JUSTICE DEPT., neh?
In Repug-controlled Florida and Washington, DC. How do we know that A. will implicate any Repugs. at all?
(If one is going to be in jail, “in their care”, for 30 years, one might need to be careful whom one accuses of what.)
== Emily
January 3rd, 2006 at 5:42 pmPriceless…
January 3rd, 2006 at 5:44 pmMy local news reported this..
Jack Abramhoff could be sentenced to 30 years in prison. That sentence could be cut by 2/3 if he does as promised and testify against members of Congress.
January 3rd, 2006 at 5:46 pmBush pardons start in 5…..4……3……
January 3rd, 2006 at 5:50 pmBushie won’t have the authority to pardon anyone pittdown.
His party is turning on him. The ones that aren’t going to jail that is.
Bubble boy is treading water and I see a huge wave headed his way.
January 3rd, 2006 at 6:00 pmBush pardons start in 5…..4……3……
Comment by piltdown
That’s interesting. Do you think he’d do that? Scary.
January 3rd, 2006 at 6:00 pmNot so sure, Susan.
If everyone was turning on him, there wouldn’t be talk of “debate” over a clearly illegal program.
January 3rd, 2006 at 6:02 pmthere wouldn’t be talk of “debate†over a clearly illegal program.
Thats just political talk. The pugs know that they will not have a job if the American People aren’t satisfied.
Notice how they are distancing themselves from everything these days? They’re treading water and they will drown if they don’t do the right thing and they know it.
Besides, the Pugs with any power at all are on trial. Like Delay, they have no power. They have already drowned.
January 3rd, 2006 at 6:09 pmIsn’t Abramafia a Bush Pioneer?
Didn’t Bush stop a Grand Jury Investigation into Abramafia?
Isn’t that a crime?
January 3rd, 2006 at 6:12 pmDidn’t Bush stop a Grand Jury Investigation into Abramafia?
Abramhoff has pled guilty so my answer would be..Bush didn’t stop anything. At least in this case.
January 3rd, 2006 at 6:19 pmSure hope Jack has body armor under his coat. I wouldn’t be taking any chartered flights either if I were him.
January 3rd, 2006 at 6:19 pmIn a heavily scripted court appearance, Abramoff agreed with U.S. District Court Judge Ellen Huvelle when she said he had engaged in a conspiracy involving “corruption of public officials.” The lobbyist also agreed when she said he and others had engaged in a scheme to provide campaign contributions, trips and other items “in exchange for certain official acts.”
“Words will not ever be able to express my sorrow and my profound regret for all my actions and mistakes,” Abramoff said, addressing the judge. “I hope I can merit forgiveness from the Almighty and those I’ve wronged or caused to suffer.”
Question to the Criminal Supporters….Did Jack Abramhoff lie to the U.S. District Court Judge?
January 3rd, 2006 at 6:24 pmOr going out fishing on the lake…
January 3rd, 2006 at 6:24 pmRepublican power whoring is America’s most deadly disease.
January 3rd, 2006 at 6:33 pmWell, are the news networks going to show this on a continuous loop like the infamous Clinton and Monica hug?
January 3rd, 2006 at 6:38 pmMolly Ivans writes what I strongly feel and know to be the truth. She says
… This could scarcely be clearer. Either the president of the United States is going to have to understand and admit he has done something very wrong, or he will have to be impeached. The first time this happened [Nixon], the institutional response was magnificent. The courts, the press, the Congress all functioned superbly. Anyone think we’re up to that again? Then whom do we blame when we lose the republic?
[from http://www.creators.com/opinion_show.cfm?next=2&ColumnsName=miv ]
January 3rd, 2006 at 6:39 pmPlease put MS Media versions on your site as well as the quicktime files.
XP does not let quicktime to run.
please consider your audiance’s computer system not just your preferences.
January 3rd, 2006 at 6:43 pmThis is the year to impeach, we have more than enough crimes to do it. It starts with the house of reps.,I have signed 5 petitions,and now to put PRESSURE on the house to ACT…AND FAST as the country is hurting with cruption. Nixon thought he had unlimited power, he didn’t and neither does bush. He and some of congress have ABUSED their positions,and the American people reject it. A cnn poll just showed 97% want ALL LOBBIESTS BANNED. They are just a corp. money tool to BUY the gov. in their favor. Let’s all get to work.
January 3rd, 2006 at 6:48 pm#22 JC God of War,
Molly is a Texas writer, isn’t she?
I thought you were in OR?
(I guess she might be syndicated though, huh..?)
January 3rd, 2006 at 6:52 pmCome on, that’s got to be fake. A good Christian like DeLay wouldn’t hug a Jew.
January 3rd, 2006 at 6:58 pmEasyRider, QT does work on XP (where I just watched the clip), you do have to install it.
Screw Tweety, (Matthews). Screw them all. Digby speak, you listen.
January 3rd, 2006 at 7:03 pm
#25 – I find stories from all over the ‘net and all over the US. I followed a link from John Conyer’s site to reach Molly’s comments on impeaching the Toy King. She’s easily reached through Common Dreams too.
January 3rd, 2006 at 7:04 pmWonder if they’ll get to share a cell together.
January 3rd, 2006 at 7:06 pmLink to Mollie:
January 3rd, 2006 at 7:41 pmhttp://www.creators.com/opinion_show.cfm?columnsName=miv
Thanks for the Ivans’ links, JCGOW and allun.
JC: How would a liberal like me do in your state? Phys. Therapy Assist? Good hosp’s? Econ?
Just wondering. Sorry to veer so off topic. Maybe if you want to tell me more, I’ll somehow get you my email address?
January 3rd, 2006 at 7:55 pmThe culture of criminality is finally getting aired a little. I doubt the mainstream press will give this much due, but hopefully progressive candidates will be able to use it as tool to overturn this corrupt and inept crew during the next election cycle.
January 3rd, 2006 at 8:28 pm#16 Susan:
Abramoff was under investigation by a Federal prosecutor in Guam 2 years ago. Bush removed the prosecutor, and the investigation died shortly afterwards.
The Boston Globe reported on this on Aug. 8, 2005) Here’s the link:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/08/08/bush_removal_ended_guam_investigation/?p1=email_to_a_friend
January 3rd, 2006 at 8:35 pmBy now, most of us have developed the ability to read the Right Wingers like a book. They are that predictable. What is really sad is that these people are native to the same country as us. While watching TV in America, you wouldn’t even know it was America anymore.
January 3rd, 2006 at 8:43 pmWouldn’t it be cool if under pressure, Karl Rove devised a conspiracy to kill Jack Abramoff so as to protect his Fascist GOP allies, and after killing Abramoff,the athorities find out about it and Karl Rove is convicted of murder.
January 3rd, 2006 at 8:49 pmMafioso hug too — they check for weapons and wires that way.
January 3rd, 2006 at 8:53 pmTom and Jack know each other well.
#34 While watching TV in America, you wouldn’t even know it was America anymore.
What are you talking about? The MSM on tv is as liberal as ever with the exception of Fox. Besides, if you hate America, just leave. We don’t care. Really. I doubt you find a country with as much opportunity or freedom. I have been reading the posts here for about three months now and I have yet to see any constructive ideas posted. TP – how about actually getting some of your fellow liberals to actually think for a change. Just hating Bush or trying to pin phony indictments won’t be enough to win back any seats this year. Where is your “Contract with America”? This is why you have been losing elections. NO NEW IDEAS ON WHERE TO TAKE THIS COUNTRY.
January 3rd, 2006 at 8:53 pmOn close inspection it appears that during their mutually pleasurable bear hug, they’re rubbing up against each other. I thought that was only popular in Japanese subway cars.
January 3rd, 2006 at 9:11 pmI think it is great that the Republican Party, who just last year launched the attacks on Gay Rights (to marry) can be so open about thier friendship. I think ‘Broke Back Mountain’ is really done wonders for this country.
January 3rd, 2006 at 9:16 pm#23
Quicktime runs fine on my PC w/ XP. Make sure you have the latest Quicktime player installed from apple.com/quicktime. Uninstall previous versions first.
January 3rd, 2006 at 9:25 pmWhat are you talking about? The MSM on tv is as liberal as ever with the exception of Fox.
Comment by .
OK, you’re kidding, right?
January 3rd, 2006 at 9:42 pmThe MSM is RUN by corporations, that are EXTREMELY RIGHT!!!
There IS no ‘liberal’ media. It’s all owned and run by CONSERVATIVES…! (duh)
FOX?????
Oh you don’t *really* think that it’s “fair and unbiased*, do you?
BWAHHHHWHAAAWHAAAAA!!!
That’s nothing compared to a recorded phone conversation they have…
DeLay: Bye
January 3rd, 2006 at 9:51 pmAbramoff: Bye
D: You didn’t hang up
A: Neither did you
D: Okay hang up
A: No you hang up
D: No you first
A: Okay we’ll both hang up together, ready
A/D: 1, 2, 3!
(pause)
D: You didn’t hang up!
A: No, you didn’t hang up!
D: I wuv you
A: I wuv you too
D: Not as much as I wuv you
A: No, twice as much!
D: No, infinity!
A: Awwwwww…
#37… Gosh dot, you’re right. We’ll stop hating Bush right now. And I’ll go call off the dozens of phony indictments.
Feel better, mofo?
And it’s not that we don’t have new ideas, it’s more like you are not receptive to new ideas, so much so you ceased being aware of new ideas sometime in the 1980s.
January 3rd, 2006 at 9:54 pmRunningDogLackey,
January 3rd, 2006 at 9:56 pmSo I guess you are a fellow Bostonian as well!
(As is Jay… a native, that is.)
Not in Boston,(well, Cambridge) anymore. (Repub’s took care of rent control there; although I was born & brought up and even wanted to die there…. but I digress…)
I’m on Cape Cod now. (Ick) It’s just nice to have some “familiar” voices out there in cyber-space….
Cynical ex-
Those are some FUNNY posts!!!!
Thanks for the laughs.
January 3rd, 2006 at 10:00 pmEasyRider said:
Please put MS Media versions on your site as well as the quicktime files.
XP does not let quicktime to run.
please consider your audiance’s computer system not just your preferences.
Comment by EasyRider — January 3, 2006 @ 6:43 pm
I have XP Pro on my machines and have no problem with Quicktime. Flash was a problem until I set up a Linux partition.
January 3rd, 2006 at 10:43 pmAnother dirt bag that will be going to prison, but not before he rats out the rest of his clan. Is there nothing the neocons will not do for power? This “administration” has taken us down the road from where it will be diffucult to return. There was a time (many years ago) when this country stood for something good. Everyone around the world hates us, and with good reason. There truly appears to be a “culture of corruption” that permeates this country. I believe that this country cannot tolerate another three years of Bush. He really should be impeached. He’s making Nixon look like a choirboy.
January 3rd, 2006 at 10:48 pmDid you watch Countdown tonight? Not only it covered the whole Abramhoff scandal, but also everything from his alliance with Ralph Reed to supporting the Apartheid government of South Africa in the 80’s. YES, ABRAMHOFF SUPPORTED APARTHEID IN SOUTH AFRICA.
Chris Matthews was right to call him Satan. And for Satan to rip off the Native Americans financially and call them morons leaves him open for a bit of a scalping consultation.
And being one part Sioux indian, I am willing to make that a reality.
I personally think ten years is too light on him. Just as long as his cellmate is 300 lbs and has a thing for clean-cut Repukiclican boys, that’s punishment enough.
January 3rd, 2006 at 11:13 pmBy the way, Countdown will be repeated at midnight e.s.t. on MSNBC.
January 3rd, 2006 at 11:15 pmCheckmate
January 3rd, 2006 at 11:48 pmI think they’re crying on each others shoulders.
“Rising star” Rep. John “shut it down” Sweeney and the self-destructing NY-GOP needs some shoulders to cry on too. I love it when they battle each other.
They are really going to be crying after getting their butts kicked by a really great Democratic candidate in my district, Kirsten Gillibrand.
January 4th, 2006 at 12:33 amTo the person who thinks the MSM is liberal, here is the main headline taken from Buzzflash: (read it and think about it, buddy)
When Clinton lied about oral sex, editorial boards across the country called on him to resign. But when Bush lies about breaking federal law by illegally wiretapping American citizens, nary a peep from those same editorial boards. What liberal media?
January 4th, 2006 at 12:58 amhttp://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001773188
January 4th, 2006 at 1:00 amOff-Topic:
“I have a feeling that 60% of what you say is crap.”
-David Letterman to Bill O’Reilly, right now on CBS
Turn your channel now- David is taking him to task…so much fun.
January 4th, 2006 at 1:15 amThe $4bn industry that is America’s guilty secret
By Rupert Cornwell
Published: 04 January 2006
Lobbying is Washington’s grubby secret. Some say lobbying is part of the democratic process. Others claim it is legalised bribery, even corruption. But love it or loathe it, it is the way Washington works.
Usually you hear little about the quiet meetings, the lavish lunches and junkets that lubricate American politics. But every once in a while something comes along to open the system to what it hates most: daylight. The case of Jack Abramoff, influence-peddler extraordinaire, is one of those somethings.
Once Mr Abramoff claimed to have done nothing illegal, that his only sin was to have been too good at his job. But now his career is in ruins, a jail term of nine years or more beckons – an incarceration that would be even longer but for the plea bargain he reached yesterday with federal prosecutors.
For Mr Abramoff only contrition is left: “Words will not ever be able to express my sorrow and my profound regret for my actions and mistakes,” he said in court yesterday. As for the two dozen members of Congress and their aides reputedly under investigation, they can only tremble.
If Mr Abramoff spills the beans, they may soon be contemplating a similar fate. This is potentially the biggest Congressional scandal of the modern era. It is largely (though not exclusively) Republican, and may mark the beginning of the end of the party’s 11-year dominance of Capitol Hill.
Lobbying per se is nothing new. The right to “petition the government for a redress of grievances” is enshrined in the first amendment of the Constitution. Back in 1913, Woodrow Wilson said Washington was “swarming with lobbyists … you can’t throw a brick in any direction without hitting one”.
But the 28th president cannot have imagined how access-peddling would blossom into a $4bn industry. There are 14,000 registered lobbyists, and as many again who are not registered. Between 1998 and 2004, foreign companies spent $620m (£350m) bending ears in Washington.
Lobbying thrives in the US for two reasons. In the US the executive and legislative branches are separate. The former is headed by the President, the latter consists of Congress, which writes laws and appropriates money for government spending. Although George Bush’s Republicans have majorities in both House and Senate, he has no direct control of the bills they consider. That power rests with dozens of powerful committee chairmen and ranking members, all with their fiefdoms, whose yea or nay is decisive.
The other key ingredient is money, the colossal sums needed to fight election campaigns. In Britain, the curbs on such spending are strict. In America, by contrast, the sky’s the limit. Total spending for the 2004 elections, presidential and congressional, reached $4bn.
The summit of extravagance was the 2004 Senate race in South Dakota, one of the least populous and less affluent US states. The two candidates spent a combined $40m. In an average state, the cost of defending a Senate seat is $20m. This means an incumbent has to raise $9,000 every day of his six-year term. At which point, enter the lobbyists.
The trade-off is simple. Corporate and other donors provide cash in a bid to secure the legislation they want. The intermediaries between the two sides are lobbyists. And the more people a lobbyist knows on Capitol Hill, the more effective he or she is.
Unsurprisingly, ever increasing numbers of them are former legislators. The Washington-based pressure group Centre for Public Integrity, says almost 250 former Congressmen and senior government officials are now active lobbyists.
Jack Abramoff and his ilk are key figures in Washington’s power networks. And no network was mightier than the one embracing Mr Abramoff, the former House majority leader Tom DeLay and Grover Norquist, president of the arch-conservative Americans for Tax Reform, one of the most powerful special interests groups in Washington.
Lobbying is Washington’s grubby secret. Some say lobbying is part of the democratic process. Others claim it is legalised bribery, even corruption. But love it or loathe it, it is the way Washington works.
Usually you hear little about the quiet meetings, the lavish lunches and junkets that lubricate American politics. But every once in a while something comes along to open the system to what it hates most: daylight. The case of Jack Abramoff, influence-peddler extraordinaire, is one of those somethings.
Once Mr Abramoff claimed to have done nothing illegal, that his only sin was to have been too good at his job. But now his career is in ruins, a jail term of nine years or more beckons – an incarceration that would be even longer but for the plea bargain he reached yesterday with federal prosecutors.
For Mr Abramoff only contrition is left: “Words will not ever be able to express my sorrow and my profound regret for my actions and mistakes,” he said in court yesterday. As for the two dozen members of Congress and their aides reputedly under investigation, they can only tremble.
If Mr Abramoff spills the beans, they may soon be contemplating a similar fate. This is potentially the biggest Congressional scandal of the modern era. It is largely (though not exclusively) Republican, and may mark the beginning of the end of the party’s 11-year dominance of Capitol Hill.
Lobbying per se is nothing new. The right to “petition the government for a redress of grievances” is enshrined in the first amendment of the Constitution. Back in 1913, Woodrow Wilson said Washington was “swarming with lobbyists … you can’t throw a brick in any direction without hitting one”.
But the 28th president cannot have imagined how access-peddling would blossom into a $4bn industry. There are 14,000 registered lobbyists, and as many again who are not registered. Between 1998 and 2004, foreign companies spent $620m (£350m) bending ears in Washington.
Lobbying thrives in the US for two reasons. In the US the executive and legislative branches are separate. The former is headed by the President, the latter consists of Congress, which writes laws and appropriates money for government spending. Although George Bush’s Republicans have majorities in both House and Senate, he has no direct control of the bills they consider. That power rests with dozens of powerful committee chairmen and ranking members, all with their fiefdoms, whose yea or nay is decisive.
The other key ingredient is money, the colossal sums needed to fight election campaigns. In Britain, the curbs on such spending are strict. In America, by contrast, the sky’s the limit. Total spending for the 2004 elections, presidential and congressional, reached $4bn.
The summit of extravagance was the 2004 Senate race in South Dakota, one of the least populous and less affluent US states. The two candidates spent a combined $40m. In an average state, the cost of defending a Senate seat is $20m. This means an incumbent has to raise $9,000 every day of his six-year term. At which point, enter the lobbyists.
The trade-off is simple. Corporate and other donors provide cash in a bid to secure the legislation they want. The intermediaries between the two sides are lobbyists. And the more people a lobbyist knows on Capitol Hill, the more effective he or she is.
Unsurprisingly, ever increasing numbers of them are former legislators. The Washington-based pressure group Centre for Public Integrity, says almost 250 former Congressmen and senior government officials are now active lobbyists.
Jack Abramoff and his ilk are key figures in Washington’s power networks. And no network was mightier than the one embracing Mr Abramoff, the former House majority leader Tom DeLay and Grover Norquist, president of the arch-conservative Americans for Tax Reform, one of the most powerful special interests groups in Washington.
January 4th, 2006 at 6:53 amUnsurprisingly, ever increasing numbers of them are former legislators. The Washington-based pressure group Centre for Public Integrity, says almost 250 former Congressmen and senior government officials are now active lobbyists.
They ought to have to wait longer than a year to become a lobbyist… all their buddies are still in office after that long… it ought to be a couple years at least…
January 4th, 2006 at 9:02 amTommy and Jackie appear to be practicing for “jailhouse love”
January 4th, 2006 at 9:03 amYep, better hold up Congress while T-Tom gets this whole legal problem cleared up . . . . NOT!
January 4th, 2006 at 9:30 amAbramoff rolling is the sweetest yet.
Now if Air Force One could just experience some ‘technical difficulties’ while flying over the middle of the Atlantic . . . .
Sadly America isn’t paying attention and what’s more, they don’t even give a shit. Bush spies on americans and no one cares. Bush bullshits his way into a war and no one cares.
WHERE’S BIN LADEN?????????????????
January 4th, 2006 at 10:35 amBesides, if you hate America, just leave. We don’t care. Really.
NO NEW IDEAS ON WHERE TO TAKE THIS COUNTRY.
Comment by . — January 3, 2006 @ 8:53 pm
Here’s an idea- More than half the country thinks your boy Bush sucks and has dragged our country into an unproductive and miserably failed war, at the expense of many fine soldiers that this Administration declines to support when they leave service.
You (Bush Supporters) will leave office eventually; and in your wake you will leave the country saddled in debt, contitutionally eroded, leveraged to Hell to foreign governments, and our military mired in an endless police states where our enemies have the opportunity & motivation to pick them off daily.
How about YOU leave, “Dot”. If the above scenario consititutes your ideas, you lack a patriotic bone in your body. I’ll come pack your stuff for you.
January 4th, 2006 at 11:31 am#37 The idea you have of “we” is very small for you anymore. And the idea of the media being liberal is just your delusion. Sorry to say, but just because most of the press is now not scared to print the news, doesn’t mean it is liberal. Because you think so, doesn’t make it so. That is just wishful thinking of someone that is in denial.
Don’t you find it odd that you think every media outlet but one is liberal? Doesn’t that sound irrational to you? Look man, you voted in one, if not the, most secretive and corrupt administrations in history and they are being found out. You had to know the secrets couldn’t last forever. Everyone knows there is no honor among thieves.
It is time to pay the piper – for all of us. We need TRANSPARENCY.
January 4th, 2006 at 11:32 am[i]Besides, if you hate America, just leave. We don’t care. Really. I doubt you find a country with as much opportunity or freedom [/i]
Opportunity of ruining the planet’s ressource by overconsuming oil, trees and all natural ressources ?
Liberty to kill, wear a gun, wage war across the globe ?
Naaa come on, visit europe, you’d be surprised. Not saying we’ve got no corruption, but it doesn’t get this bad….
January 4th, 2006 at 11:41 am#48 You’re right, 10 years is way too light. But, if that’s the price we have to pay to clean up Congress and restore democracy, it will have been worth it. When he gets out of prison, I want everyone who lives within shouting distance of this dirtbag to remind him of the damage he did to our country.
And keep reminding those wonderful “moral” red state voters how smart they were to elect these clowns into office, despite our advice to the contrary.
January 4th, 2006 at 12:06 pmThe ‘A-bomb’ part two
Abramoff’s next plea: five counts of fraud and conspiracy in a Florida case involving gambling boats, a dead guy named Gus and more than one member of Congress (hold me, Tom DeLay!).
January 4th, 2006 at 12:53 pm#37 Funny you mentioned the “Contract with America” in your post. Maybe you should go back and read that contract again, and then rethink your support for this administration. They have failed to live up to thier end of it. But that’s not really that unusual is it? We’re all getting used to being disappointed by these people. I wonder how long we’ll put up with it?
January 4th, 2006 at 1:04 pm#37
Actually, the middle class in communist China is growing very rapidly, while our middle class is being deconstructed by Bush.
Now, hurry up and call me a communist sympathizer.
BTW, if you have been coming here for three months and have found any good ideas, why do you keep coming back. We don’t care what you say and you don’t like our non-ideas, so please, for the love of your God, stop coming. Everybody, including yourself will be better off.
January 4th, 2006 at 1:19 pmMaybe it is like Michael Corleone hugging Fredo?
Comment by Optimist
I hugged a Left Wing Loser once. I swear I didn’t know.
January 4th, 2006 at 2:26 pmActually, the middle class in communist China is growing very rapidly, while our middle class is being deconstructed by Bush.
Now, hurry up and call me a communist sympathizer.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
The ratbastardcommiemofo label goes without saying but you don’t know squat about China or our middle class. You need to get to both places before you run your mouth.
January 4th, 2006 at 2:28 pmSince TP has compiled a list of alleged links between Mr. Abramoff and the former House Majority Leader, it should devote equal attention to the alleged links between Mr. Abramoff and the current Senate Minority Leader. That would be the ethical thing to do (you do want this post filed under “Ethics” don’t you?).
The question is this: Is TP ethical enough to do the ethical thing in covering this ethics scandal? Time will tell.
January 4th, 2006 at 2:50 pmIt seems to have escaped the notice of everyone here in the TP fever swamp that the Abramoff prosecuion was brought and vigorously pursued by the Bush DOJ. I know it doesn’t fit in with the left’s anti-Bush mythology, but the President actually has a visceral dislike of even the appearance of corruption. His Justice Department has done everything possible to pursue this case to its ultimate conclusion, regardless of where that might be.
By contrast, the Clinton DOJ under Janet Reno did nothing to seriously prosecute illegal campaign contributions from Chinese communists and Buddhist monks, among other colorful scandals. So let the fever swamp stew in its own fetid mire. I’ll stand with the ethics of the Bush DOJ vs. the Clinton DOJ any day.
January 4th, 2006 at 3:03 pmIRI does all his male hugging from behind, just like most of the in-the-closet right. oooogah!
January 4th, 2006 at 3:36 pm“but the President actually has a visceral dislike of even the appearance of corruption. ”
That’s right, he prefers that the corruption is hidden.
“I know it doesn’t fit in with the left’s anti-Bush mythology”
LOL Talking about mythology, I wonder what God told Bush last night in his prayers “Those miners will be ok…wait on second thought no George, you can’t convene a late night Senate meeting to save them.”
January 4th, 2006 at 4:56 pmHere, I will say it again, so that maybe this time you might learn.
I am the International Marketing Manager for a global technology company.
I make great money and I travel around the world. Not to mention that I traveled in the military also.
So Mr. Redneck Racist Bastard, I am in the middle class and I have been to China.
As usual, you don’t know sh!t.
January 4th, 2006 at 5:27 pmBSR,
Are you saying that you believe this Bush justice department won’t go after Reid if he’s involved? Wow, you have such confidence in their abilities, while simultaneously saying they won’t do anything. That’s pretty psychotic dude, you must really have a new years hangover for coming up with that kind of twisted logic.
And you’re also saying that you don’t believe the Bush Controlled Justice department would go after Gore/Clinton on the BuddhaGate story, if there was anything there but smoke?
Wow, I’d say there’s smoke, but it’s clearly something you’re smoking! It’s made you paranoid and irrational I’m afraid.
Now try again, why is it that Bush’s Justice Department should be ‘trusted’ to bring justice against Republicans, and simultaneously not bring justice against Democrats who are guilty? How again do you find this twisted ‘logic’ in the rubble of your subconscious?
January 4th, 2006 at 7:13 pmDelay/Abramoff hug?…a la Clinton hugging Monica in a reception line. It should become just as symbolic.
January 4th, 2006 at 9:26 pmBy contrast, the Clinton DOJ under Janet Reno did nothing to seriously prosecute illegal campaign contributions from Chinese communists and Buddhist monks, among other colorful scandals. So let the fever swamp stew in its own fetid mire. I’ll stand with the ethics of the Bush DOJ vs. the Clinton DOJ any day.
Comment by Blue State Red — January 4, 2006 @ 3:03 pm
Of course, I suppose you think it would be better to leverage our financial instruments to COmmunist China instead. Also- given the current state of indictments and guilty pleas regarding influence peddling, illegal campaign contributions and gerrymandering, it’s funny you should resort to lecturing anyone about ethics.
Here’s a hint- even if there is reasonable evidence that Clinton’s DOJ did what you say they did (post your proof); does it really justify similar ethical breeches by our current Administration? In other words, just ’cause they did it, it’s OK we do it?
Continue to support your party over your country- it shows your desperation to ‘just belong’. Sad little men….
January 5th, 2006 at 2:07 am“Bringin’ in th’ thieves,
January 5th, 2006 at 9:11 amBringin’ in th’ thieves,
We shall all rejoice in…
bringin’ in th’ thieves.â€
Delay/Abramoff hug?…a la Clinton hugging Monica in a reception line. It should become just as symbolic.
Comment by Mike Brown — January 4, 2006 @ 9:26 pm
By contrast, the Clinton DOJ under Janet Reno did nothing to seriously prosecute illegal campaign contributions from Chinese communists and Buddhist monks, among other colorful scandals. So let the fever swamp stew in its own fetid mire. I’ll stand with the ethics of the Bush DOJ vs. the Clinton DOJ any day.
Comment by Blue State Red
Mike and Blue #’s 75 & 76,
Then shouldn’t it strike you inbreds as odd why your boys in Congress impeached Bill on the former but not the latter?
Clinton is no longer president, and you inbreds “won”- get over it!
January 5th, 2006 at 11:58 amThis clip has got to be included on the AFI’s 100 greatest film moments, along with Dumb DeLay’s speech in the Marianna Islands…
January 5th, 2006 at 11:59 amSo Mr. Redneck Racist Bastard, I am in the middle class and I have been to China.
As usual, you don’t know sh!t.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
Spudge #73,
Haven’t you guessed by now that I-Triflinbushitewho*e-I is a sado-masochist, whose fetish is being publicly humiliated?
You’re feeding the beast bro.
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