I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

A non-doer is very often a critic-that is, someone who sits back and watches doers, and then waxes philosophically about how the doers are doing. It’s easy to be a critic, but being a doer requires effort, risk, and change.

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

I can not agree with you in 100% regarding some thoughts, but you got good point of view

Apparently, it has been quite some time since you have read 1984 given that your comment does not make sense in the context of my post. Now let’s deconstruct your arguments:

1) Since even your hero Bubba used executive priviledge to spy on people, I don’t find your argument persuasive

This argument has been debunked in numerous places – on this very Web site in fact. The Clinton administration program, code-named Echelon, complied with FISA. Before any conversations of U.S. persons were targeted, a FISA warrant was obtained. CIA director George Tenet testified to this before Congress on 4/12/00.

2) Your assumptions that 1) republicans control Washington and 2) that independent investigations can’t be brought against republicans aren’t supported by fact (see Scooter Libby who is being charged with lying, just like Bubba).

I apologize for not being clearer in my post. I am talking specifically about drawing up articles of impeachment against GWB. It happened with Clinton (or Bubba as you fondly refer to him – I need to come up with an equally cute name for GWB). Article 1, Section 2, of the Constitution specifies that “the House of Representatives…shall have the sole power of impeachment.” This means that it has the power to bring charges against an official. Current party affiliations in the House: Republicans=232; Democrats=202. Once impeached, high officials are tried by the Senate. Article 1, Section 3, specifies, “The Senate shall have the sole power to try all impeachments. Current party affiliations in the Senate: Republicans=55; Democrats=44; Independents=1. I’ll let you do the math on the probability of articles of impeachment being drawn up even if an “independent” investigation found evidence of wrongdoing.

3) If there were actual evidence (I defy you to produce it) that GWB lied, then I would be jumping on the impeach bandwagon, otherwise it’s not even worth discussion.

I encourage you to read “Constitution in Crisis” by Rep. Conyers which lays out in great detail the extremely questionable tactics (some would argue lies) utilized by this administration.

4) Are you going to charge Bubba, Britain, France, Germany and the UN of lying too (don’t forget that congress approved – with the same intel)? They all said previous to the war that Saddam had weapons of mass distruction. Hmmm

Once again, the argument that Congress had the same intelligence when they voted to go to war is false and had been debunked on this Web site (see Bush Resurrects False Claim That Congress Had “Same Intelligence” On Iraq) and the Downing Street Memo clearly indicates that the intelligence was being “fixed” prior to the invasion of Iraq. Clinton and other countries may have believed Saddam had WMD but he didn’t take use into war over it. Why? Because there was no imminent threat (I am sure you will have a much more colorful explanation why).

5) Wake up! America is great and the future looks good. Don’t deny yourself happiness just to spite others.

I concur that America is great and we need to take the power back to the people and away from this neocon, ultra-conservative administration.

As for Senator Kennedy, if his memory had been as good after his car hit the water as he wants Judge Alito’s to be 20 after the fact, he would still be serving time.

Graham is not an ass-hat. I think he is very intelligent and does his job well. Even the best prosecutors lose cases.

Besides, Graham was one of the incompetent House prosecutors during the Clinton impeachment. Did he ever apologize to him when the vote went in Clinton’s favor. Also, poor Lindsey nearly cried when his case against Clinton took a major hit due to his own incompetence. That is, not finding out that Vernon Jordan was on an airplane headed to Europe at the time Graham alleged a conspiracy had been formed. And Graham also argued that phone calls made in the early morning must have a sinister purpose even if the content of the conversation was not known.

Graham is another ass-hat.

You know full well that if, say, a decade ago Ted Kennedy was caught advising Stephen Breyer the way Graham’s feeding answers to Alito, you and your fellow cons in the GOP/Media Axis would be all over this like a cheap suit. (And if Kennedy made Mrs. Breyer cry the way Graham made Mrs. Alito cry, you would have said it showed that both Mr. and Mrs. Breyer were “unstable” and thus that Breyer was unfit to be a SCOTUS justice.)

There seems to be some confusion here on “why” these contracts are awarded as “no-bid” – do you know why? If you had ever worked in Federal or Defense contracting, you would know that when you bid out contracts, it can take up to 6 to 9 MONTHS before they can be awarded. The fastest I have ever seen was maybe 3 to 4 months for anything substantial, and that was when people had nothing else to focus on other than evaluating that ONE proposal. That is why you usually have no bid contracts, and I am sure that many of the same reasons were used when the Clinton administration awarded contracts to Haliburton as were used by the Bush administration. When it comes to being expedient, there are times that the government needs to act in this manner – that is why there are contract review boards, and organizations, to make sure that the money is spent properly. These have obviously been doing their due dilligence, since we have seen all sorts of reports about money being poorly spent in various ways.

The sad part is, even on contracts that are bid out (when it is a general rule that the LOW bidder wins), we usually spend so much money on follow-up to these contracts that between the bid review process and the additional work required, we spend twice as much money per project in the long run.

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Wake up! America is great and the future looks good. Don’t deny yourself happiness just to spite others.

Regarding the Vangaurd issue, Alito recused himself after the decision was called into question, and I believe a 3 judge panel then came to the same conclussion afterwards. The only thing any of you seem to be concerned about is what his stand is on abortion, and if you can’t get the answer you want on that (ie it will never change) you will look for any other excuse to pull a person down.

Be careful of being that person throwing rocks when you live in a house with glass walls. Why is it that 8 or 9 judges sitting can be so right about an issue – what is it that makes them so perfect that they can make the only correct decision? Only because they choose the way you like?

Personally, I find it amusing watching all of you get all red in the face angry that you can’t find a “good” reason to disqualify a judge that probably has more character and interity than any person writing on this board, or posting comments – myself included.

Have a nice day :)

Given that all branches of government are currently controlled by Republicans, who’s going to step up and begin the process of determining whether GWB lied? I chuckle at how Republicans were screaming that Clinton should be impeached for consensual sex but you are an unpatriotic, terrorist-loving liberal if you want an independent investigation of 1) weapons of mass destruction and the justification for going to war in Iraq; 2) where the money for the rebuilding of Iraq is going, most especially which contractors have received no-bid contracts; 3)warrantless spying on American citizens; 4) torture, etc.

1984 is no longer an Orwellian tale people. Stop drinking the punch and start making some noise!