An emotional (public relations) response:
By on Jan 12th, 2006 at 11:17 am
An emotional (public relations) response:
An email from Creative Response Concepts, a conservative public relations firm: “Former Alito clerk Gary Rubman witnessed Mrs. Alito leaving her husband’s confirmation in tears and is available for interviews, along with other former Alito clerks who know her personally and are very upset about this development.” (Via TalkLeft)
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oh Gary (sniff) you just hang in there okay.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:19 amToo bad it happened when a Republican was questioning Judge Alito. I bit of information that will, conveniently, be left out of any story concerning Mrs. Alito.
Interesting how the radical conservative media picks and chooses the facts they want people to know about.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:22 am#2 – Interesting that the left has to resort to vicious personal attacks to derail Alito. You could never win on issues.
You shitheads deserve Alito. I am laughing at you.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:25 amTetris King, Personal Attacks? Try ALITO’s GD RECORD!!!
January 12th, 2006 at 11:28 amSecondly, if he doesn’t have the skin to handle it, he shouldn’t be on the court!
#3
It was Senator Graham who made the poor woman cry. It was Senator Graham who participated in Judge Alito’s practice session(s). It’s the Republicans who are armed and ready with the PR campaign over an event they staged, albeit perhaps unintenionally.
This is an inside job. What do Democrats have to do with it?
January 12th, 2006 at 11:28 amThe most offensive people are most often the most sensitive.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:29 amMrs. Alito should have just hung in there and pulled out her stiff Nazi monogramed handkerchief and sucked it up.
#3 – You still havent responded to the fact that Ms. Alito began crying only during the Republican questions!
Oh, how easy it is for trolls to stick their head in the sand and ignore facts that don’t support them!!!!
January 12th, 2006 at 11:29 amUh, she started when crying when Graham (R) asked him if he was a bigot. I listened to it and I don’t from his tone that it was obvious that it was a leading question. Sen. Graham should have phrased it differently.
I think, more likely than anything, that she was BORED to tears. The guy didn’t really answer anything and then there were Senators just using the camera time to send coded messages to their base.
As to #3, what about the vicious personal attacks leveled at “liberals” in TV ads promoting Alito? What about Sen. Graham calling him a bigot?
January 12th, 2006 at 11:29 amTetra King, what you could not answer the other questions on the other subjects so you have to leave until someone here presents a question that is logical? Run back to Bushie and tell him you are a misserable failure, and that he should send someone else to pick up where you failed from.
Run along, run, run, run….
January 12th, 2006 at 11:31 amVicious personal attacks? Like bush vomited about Kerry during the last election?
If alito was such a choir boy, the foundation of the questioning wouldn’t exist. But it is YET AGAIN another bitch republican that cries foul when we use their tactics against them.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:31 amTrade places and problems with you MRS ELITE O.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:33 amLet’s get nasty! Let’s call her elite-HO
January 12th, 2006 at 11:38 amIf one views closely the video showing Mrs. Alito’s smooth transition from smiling, supportive wife to grieved wounded victim, one can see the subtle “actors motivation” technique take hold. This technique commonly used by actors/actresses to turn on tears takes the thespian (mentally) to a time and place of deep hurt and desperation…
Alito’s wife did a good job…of acting on cue…
January 12th, 2006 at 11:38 amI don’t even think families should be allowed at these things… it’s a job interview, not a family outing… Supreme Court nominees will always face tough questioning… in this case, the question was from a Republicant! this whole incident could have been avoided if Alito had been honest about CAP from the start… admit it, say it was wrong, then move on…
January 12th, 2006 at 11:39 amActually, Mrs. Alito was crying over the way REPUBLICANS tried to get Valerie Plame KILLED when they were getting even with her husband Joe Wilson.
Why don’t Republicans apologize to Valerie Plame?
January 12th, 2006 at 11:40 amWhat a steaming pantload. The whole thing was RIGGED. What the hell is she doing at her husband’s job interview anyway?
January 12th, 2006 at 11:42 amYOU NUT JOBS DESERVE ALITO.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:42 amMz. Alito’s tears are meaningless when you consider the future damage her hubby will do to our personal freedoms.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:43 amThere’s a scene in A Clockwork Orange in which a reformed Alex returns home to find his room occupied by a lodger called “Joe.†Not wanting to lose his room, Joe goes on and on about what a bad boy Alex was, and how he doesn’t deserve such good parents. As Alex’s mother begins to cry, Joe says, “Now look what you’ve gone and done to your mother.â€
That’s what happened yesterday with Alito’s wife. Just replace “GOP” with “JOE.”
http://blogdebogs.blogspot.com/2006/01/niceties-not-necessary.html
January 12th, 2006 at 11:43 amSee folks. If Robert Byrd had simply said he “didn’t recall” being a member of the KKK, Republicans would have accepted that. He could have even put his KKK membership on a job application, and they would have considered that off limits.
Ouch. My sarcasm meter just blew a fuse.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:45 amWas Alito’s grandfather an Italian fascist? and if he gets in, will we end up calling him “Ill Douchebag”?
January 12th, 2006 at 11:47 amImpeach the bastards.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:49 amFunny that #2 Tetra King yells about liberals leveling mean personal attacks, yet both of his posts have been nothing but personal attacks. Chances are Alito will be confirmed and bush will get to do whatever he wants at that point. I don’t like it but that is the reality.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:51 amJohn,Personal What?
January 12th, 2006 at 11:53 amDid you mention the (F.R.E.E.)Word?
sorry I meant #3
January 12th, 2006 at 11:53 amTo lodge all power in one party and keep it there is to insure bad government and the sure and gradual deterioration of the public morals.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:57 am- Mark Twain’s Autobiography
Sen Graham’s voice makes me cray every time I hear it. I don’t understand all the attention this is getting. The poor woman was bored stiff and probably had to pee, and Graham put her over the edge with THAT VOICE.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:58 amToo bad it happened when a Republican was questioning Judge Alito. I bit of information that will, conveniently, be left out of any story concerning Mrs. Alito.
If you were watching you’d know that she started crying when Graham apologized for the the types of questions her husband has endured the past few days. She was upset because the Democrats were trying to paint her husband as a bigot. Graham acknowledged that the questioning was very harsh and said he was sorry that Alito and his family were subjected to that manner of questions.
I think any of us would get upset if we saw people behaving in an uncivilized manner toward our spouse … especially if WE knew the accusations were false. It would be extreemly frustrating to watch a loved one painted in a false light and watch them have to maintain cool and calm … I’d want to knock someone’s head off if they treated my wife that way. Clearly, questions that are difficult should be expected of a nominee … a lifetime appointment demands tough questioning … constant bashing of a nominee as a bigot (when witness testimony is 100% otherwise) is counter-productive and self-aggrandizing grandstanding. Ask him what he thinks, let him answer, re-but, let him answer … move on. What does it prove if I say “you’re a bigot” … they say “no, I’m not” … I say, “yes, you are” … etc. … this gets us a whole lot of nothing.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:58 amWas Alito’s grandfather an Italian fascist?
Stupid racist comment … nice job self-marginalizing …
January 12th, 2006 at 12:00 pmHey, they think this gag worked after Kerry pointed out Cheney’s lesbian daughter Mary in the debates, and they got sympathy points. Why not give the BOOOO HOOOO response another try.waaaawaaa
January 12th, 2006 at 12:01 pmThesetorturing,bigoted,elitist,warmongering,lying,corrupt,so-called Christians sure have thin skins.
If Mrs. Alito were a real woman, like Harriet Miers, she would do the honorable thing and tell her husband to withdrawl his name from consideration.
January 12th, 2006 at 12:02 pm#17 – If we get him, you get him.
Go back to licking out your aquarium, Tetra King.
January 12th, 2006 at 12:04 pm#6
What you wrote is absolutely disgusting. It is mean and hateful to laber this woman, a woman you do not know, a Nazi and ‘offensive’.
You and Think Progress are a degrading segment of American society. You don’t get what you want, and you go out and call people names and put them down. That is exactly what McCarthy did. In fact the rotund Senator from Massachusets resembles McCarthy these days. I mean all he has done is look into a guy’s background and say ‘you are affiliated with this group and that’s wrong’. That’s exactly what McCarthy did… “your a commie and that’s bad”.
Alito will be confirmed. Think Progress is mean and hateful. I’m laughing at you.
January 12th, 2006 at 12:08 pmDear Lyle,
Please wipe the Gopspew from your mouth eunuchgirl. Mean and hateful, please little girl go home to rightwing fantasy land.
January 12th, 2006 at 12:10 pmGiacomo – First of all…. This is a job interview. There is absolutely no need for her to be in there. Sure, she can come to the hearing to support her husband, but she has no reason to be in the hearing itself.
Do you get to bring your wife/girlfriend/boyfriend to a job interview? This interview is certainly much more important than any normal interview and therefore should have tough questions. If you believe that because the president says that this person should be on the highest court in the US without question, then you really are insane.
I just wish that both parties would ask more difficult questions, and rather than talkinig for more than 50% of their time ask a damn question. If they would just say something like: “well judge, we all know why you are here. Now tell me your answer to the following question.” I believe that this would have provided much more insight to the man and his beliefs (not that one can’t see them from his lack of answering a number of questions).
January 12th, 2006 at 12:10 pmI would like to know why Alito was so craven as to forcr his wife to attend what he knew would be a tough interview phase. First day can be understood, introductions were the order of business, but having her attend the question phase was cruel and unusual punishment.
January 12th, 2006 at 12:13 pmLyle you need to brush on you history a bit before you make a COMPLETE ass of yourself.
January 12th, 2006 at 12:14 pmSweet baby Jesus,
The right are such pus*ies! They fear death from a terrorist attack more than anything. They get all sensitive over Alito’s wife crying. They can’t and won’t join the service to serve America. They have repressed gay people throughout the party who attack gay people while raping their own children. If only they didn’t squeal so load and at such a high pitch.
January 12th, 2006 at 12:16 pmLyle has been listening to Michael “the retard” Savage again as he has been on this exact rant. The left is acting in McCarthey fashion,the left is communist and at the same time fascist etc.etc. Without dopes like LIE LIE listening there would be no Savage, and Savage would be working in an elementary school in his real field of expertise: a nutritionist.
January 12th, 2006 at 12:19 pmMIAMI – Jose Padilla, a U.S. citizen who was held for more than three years as an “enemy combatant,” pleaded not guilty Thursday to criminal charges alleging he was part of a secret network that supported violent Muslim extremists around the world.
THREE FREAKING YEARS!!!
Tell me WHY again we should give delay a speedy trial.
January 12th, 2006 at 12:21 pmBoo Goddamn Hoo that she cried. Her husband is trying out for a top spot in the big leagues and these theatrics are pathetic. Her husband’s record is up for scrutiny and if she can’t handle the truth then they need to go home. I hear there might be some spots opening up in the lobbying market sometime soon. Repent!
January 12th, 2006 at 12:22 pmthis whole incident could have been avoided if Alito had been honest about CAP from the start… admit it, say it was wrong, then move on…
Comment by Pete Bogs #14
One cannot deny one’s true beliefs, nor engage in behavior (being honest) that is foreign to him/her…
January 12th, 2006 at 12:33 pmThe more I read about Scalito’s wife leaving the hearing the more and more it smells like a staged incident. Republicans wouldn’t do that now would they? Is it just coincidence that it was Lindsy Grahm that made her cry? Coincidence that Graham was on Scalito’s prep board? Naaaawwwwww. Never. They’d never do that, now would they?
January 12th, 2006 at 12:36 pmI think any of us would get upset if we saw people behaving in an uncivilized manner toward our spouse …
Comment by Giacomo #28
jaggoffmore,
I knew you were an inbred p*ssy…
You’d actually CRY while watching your wife be raped by inbred dogs, huh?
January 12th, 2006 at 12:39 pmShe should be crying out of shame from her husband’s past, being involved in the disgusting social circles that he probably is STILL involved in.
January 12th, 2006 at 12:41 pmI think any of us would get upset if we saw people behaving in an uncivilized manner toward our spouse … especially if WE knew the accusations were false.
Stop it… stop assuming everyone thinks, acts, feels and behaves just like you. Not everyone feels this way or would act this way, so stop it.
It would be extreemly frustrating to watch a loved one painted in a false light and watch them have to maintain cool and calm …
Oh yeah, that’s just torturous… How about watching someone you love die from cancer? Or be killed in a false war? Or be on life support because a drunk driver got his license back? Nah, none of those things are nearly as bad as this…
I’d want to knock someone’s head off if they treated my wife that way.
It’s a job interview…
Ask him what he thinks, let him answer, re-but, let him answer … move on. What does it prove if I say “you’re a bigot†… they say “no, I’m not†… I say, “yes, you are†… etc. … this gets us a whole lot of nothing.
Comment by Giacomo — January 12, 2006 @ 11:58 am
So, you’re a legal expert now as well? I see…
Giacomo, theory is all fine and dandy, except that you can’t seem to understand how it does not work in the real world. And I’d bet the ranch that if it were a liberal candidate you’d be demanding that they ask even tougher questions because this is a life-time position that impacts the entire nation for generations to come.
January 12th, 2006 at 12:43 pmWas Alito’s grandfather an Italian fascist?
Stupid racist comment … nice job self-marginalizing …
Comment by Giacomo #29
Well he*l jagoffmore was he?
If Alito isn’t a racist and sexist then WHY was he in the CAP organization, and even MORE important why is he trying to FORGET being a member of said organization…
If Alito isn’t a facist then why are the overwhelming majority of his decisions in favor of big business and the power structure as opposed to the common man?
Inquisitive minds like to know these things of their lifetime appointed Supreme Court Justices who hold enormous sway over their futures…
Then there are those microcephalic, inbred, mindless, unevolved, Troglodytes (that’d be you jagoff…) who simply believe in “trusting” the wisdom of their corrupt, greedy, murderous, amoral, unethical political gods…
Purge…
January 12th, 2006 at 12:47 pmQuite a play they put on with Mrs ELITE HO(I like that) seated behind hubby, only problem is that being an inexperienced actress she missed her cue, and walked off-stage at the wrong time.
January 12th, 2006 at 12:52 pmMrs. Alito,
With apologies to Mr. Tom Hanks,
THERE’S NO CRYING IN POLITICS!
January 12th, 2006 at 12:53 pmSen. Graham’s voice places him on the list of the most annoying people with the most annoying voices.
Also on the list,
Dr. Phil
January 12th, 2006 at 12:58 pmRita Cosby
Nancy Grace
Jeff Foxworthy
Wolf Blitzer
John Gibson
Rush Limburger, I mean Limbaugh
Dickless Cheney
Bubble Boy
“YOU NUT JOBS DESERVE ALITO.”
Are you one of those Al Qaeda terrorists who hate us for our freedoms? Or just another uninformed Beta-Monkey who takes perverse pleasure in cutting off his/her nose to spite his/her face?
Hard for me to tell these days.
January 12th, 2006 at 1:06 pmYeh, I saw that. I saw it was a Republican doing the questioning. It felt staged. It felt like one of those thing you hear Republicans always saying about about liberals. Well, I guess, right back at you then. Maybe they were tears of joy, because she knows the Republican party has this country by the balls, and her husband is going to get confirmed. Quite frankly, we are hiring her husband, not her, for the Supreme Court of Our Country. If she can’t take the heat, she should *NOT* have been there. But the Republican propaganda machine was working it’s act on the life’s stage.
I am very disappointed in Senator Lindsey Graham’s conduct. I thought he was one of the good Republicans, few as they are.
January 12th, 2006 at 1:07 pmSad thing is that the dems are being accused of having already passed judgement on Altio, but one one is accusing Graham or any of the others of passing judgement already, even though they obviously have. He gets passed to the full Senate by a party line vote. There, we will see what happens.
The so-called gand of 14 will have some interesting debates. They said they would stick together in the case of extreme candidates, let’s see how they now define extreme.
January 12th, 2006 at 1:09 pmshe should hear the women and men cry because we are suffering because of CONservitives/RWE’S Right/Wing/Exstreamists. Dead millitary,lost jobs,wire taps,false hope,liers,and so much more.
January 12th, 2006 at 1:10 pmI have to agree that making comments about Nazi hankys and Italian facists is way out of line. Take the high road folks, it is the ONLY strength we have in the left these days, that we are justified. Name calling only makes us look petty.
January 12th, 2006 at 1:24 pmHaving said that, I also agree this was a staged vote for sympathy! And then ham-handed with this bid for more sympathy from the aides that just can’t wait to spew the talking points.
And of course, we are not getting any real answers out of Velveeta, are we surprised?
I heard SwiftVets for Crying will be on Hannity tonight. :-)
January 12th, 2006 at 1:33 pmImagine the response fromt he right if a dem nominee’s wife cried and fled the room? Pretty viscious I would imagine.
January 12th, 2006 at 1:51 pmWho is “Mrs. Alito”?
Sam Alito’s wife is named Martha-Ann Bomgardner.
Unless they’re talking about Judge Alito’s mother, I’d say this PR firm isn’t very accurate.
But since they’re conservative, I guess that makes sense.
January 12th, 2006 at 2:08 pmWhat a LOAD of Hooey.
This reminds me of the ‘Poor George’ ploy during elections.
Remember?
Dont fall for this obvious Soap Opera.
Those mean People asked an Important man a Question!
Oh My! Graham Apologized and she Cried?
WTF? Wasnt Rush and Faux going on and on about Whiney Liberals when that guy killed himself at ground Zero of 9/11?
Someone asks Alito a Question and
Waaa waaa.
What a WEAK bunch of Tww faced Wimps Federalists are. Bush Sr WIMP. Jr WIMP. CHENEY WIMP
WIMPCO inc.
How many of you have been to court? And Admonished by a ‘Judge’. Did you CRY?
And now that a someone asks questions they are Mean?The most dramatic moment of the day came when the judge’s wife, Martha-Ann Bomgardner, who had been sitting behind him, left the hearing room in tears.
She left when Senator Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) was apologizing to Alito for his treatment by the opposition. Graham, who was present at a White House preparation session for Alito, mocked Democrats for their relentless questioning about the Princeton group by asking Alito rhetorically if he is “really a closet bigot.” After Alito replied that he is “not any kind of a bigot,” Graham continued: “Guilt by association is going to drive good men and women away from wanting to sit where you’re sitting…. Judge Alito, I am sorry that you’ve had to go through this. I am sorry that your family has had to sit here and listen to this.”
January 12th, 2006 at 2:21 pmA Public Proceeding made ‘DRAMATI’C by the ‘DRAMA Queens’ of ‘Make our own Reality’ Administration?
January 12th, 2006 at 2:24 pmFunny that she was Smiling and whispering into ALITOs ear during a break what she was planning…
Cmon, WAKE UP MEDIA FOOLS!
I turned the hearing off and on through the last couple of days. I saw a several women sitting behind Alito, but I didn’t know who they were. It always showed, in the background, one woman smirking, when the cameras panned Alito. I remember thinking, what a arrogrant expression, like she already knew the outcome and this was just a little beneath her. It wasn’t until the day, she started crying and they said it was Alito’s wife, that I realized who it was. I thought, there you witch, that’s what you get for sitting there smirking, on national TV.
January 12th, 2006 at 2:41 pmSo, was the crying for PR? I don’t know, but that smirk really turned me off. Personally, I’d like to have seen someone slap the smirk off her face, then she’d really have something to cry about.
Giacomo,
Italian is not a race. It is a country of origin.
January 12th, 2006 at 2:42 pmA little dried onion juice on the fingertips is all it takes – a trick evangelists have used for decades. This was a con, pure and simple
January 12th, 2006 at 3:04 pmStop it… stop assuming everyone thinks, acts, feels and behaves just like you. Not everyone feels this way or would act this way, so stop it.
Whatever unbelievable … if you can sit by and watch someone slander a loved one without being upset, more power to you … for most people, it would be difficult to watch.
Oh yeah, that’s just torturous… How about watching someone you love die from cancer? Or be killed in a false war? Or be on life support because a drunk driver got his license back? Nah, none of those things are nearly as bad as this…
Uhmmm … what the heck are you talking about? Let me get this straight … because there are worse things that could happen to a spouse than be slandered rudely in a professional forum, that means it doesn’t affect a person? (”Boy, Kennedy’s really being a total jerk to my husband, but at least he doesn’t have cancer … ahhh, I feel better now”) Get off your high horse … you’re arguing for the sake of arguing now.
It’s a job interview…
So that means Alito should expect to be treated rudely (or to be slandered as something he claims, time and again, to not be).
And I’d bet the ranch that if it were a liberal candidate you’d be demanding that they ask even tougher questions because this is a life-time position that impacts the entire nation for generations to come.
And you’d lose that ranch … go back and review how the Republicans treated Ruth Bader-Ginsburg … compare then and now. She “swung the court” … and was unanimously approved by the committee. She came out and said she was pro-life … and was approved 96-3 by the Senate. This Alito nomination process is setting a very poor precedent for how an opposite party should/will treat a future nominee … I ask you to reconcile how RBG and Breyer virtually sailed through confirmation … the Republicans had concerns over both of them (RBG head attorney for ACLU, etc). They asked the questions they wanted, and approved Clinton’s nominees … no great grandstanding … no long monologues … no fillibuster BS. Why do you suppose this is (especially given that the republicans are the less “progressive” of the parties). Will you, or someone else, intelligently answer why the big difference btwn Clinton and Bush nominees treatment?
January 12th, 2006 at 3:19 pmTake the high road folks, it is the ONLY strength we have in the left these days, that we are justified. Name calling only makes us look petty.
Finally … someone with the stones to say it … THANK YOU.
January 12th, 2006 at 3:21 pmIf jocko homo really thought his right wing fascists were kicking butt, he would not be here 24/7………to learn. Keep the dopey comment disections coming Captain Blowhard bwahhaaaaaha
January 12th, 2006 at 3:53 pmGiacomo is to TP what static is to AM radio. Turn the dial a little and skip it.
January 12th, 2006 at 3:55 pmIs there no one else out there thinking this lady must be balancing on an emotional ledge. The fact that one and all seem to find it somehow “understandable” that she should cry are doing women everywhere a disservice by implying that we certainly can’t be expected to keep our emotions in check!
The media response to this demonstrates how far women really are from achieving equal status in this society. As long as we accept women’s tears as the fault of someone out there, we are colluding with the view that women are emotionally weak and must be protected by the big, strong men- in this case, the big strong men on Judiciary Committee, who should have recognized Mrs. Alito’s emotional vulnerabilties and given them deference, regardless of the fact that our democracy hangs in the balance.
Are we to lose it all because of a woman’s tears?
January 12th, 2006 at 4:08 pmWhatever unbelievable … if you can sit by and watch someone slander a loved one without being upset, more power to you … for most people, it would be difficult to watch.
Difficult, perhaps, but not tragic. Grow up.
Uhmmm … what the heck are you talking about? Let me get this straight … because there are worse things that could happen to a spouse than be slandered rudely in a professional forum, that means it doesn’t affect a person?
Yes. You can’t get upset about every minor grievance you ever encounter. That’s just ridiculous. Grow up.
(â€Boy, Kennedy’s really being a total jerk to my husband, but at least he doesn’t have cancer … ahhh, I feel better nowâ€) Get off your high horse … you’re arguing for the sake of arguing now.
No, I’m making a point that people like you who’ve never experienced a real tragedy find this sort of thing horrific. Get a life. What happened is nothing to cry over. It’s assinine to cry about this. I bet she cries over broken nails and prays to Jesus to that the Mexicans who parked her Cadillac SUV won’t have moved the seat…
So that means Alito should expect to be treated rudely (or to be slandered as something he claims, time and again, to not be).
Oh grow up! If you are really this insensitive you should invest in body armor.
And you’d lose that ranch … go back and review how the Republicans treated Ruth Bader-Ginsburg … compare then and now.
Nope… She didn’t have the background that Alito has. It’s hardly an equal comparision.
They asked the questions they wanted, and approved Clinton’s nominees … no great grandstanding … no long monologues … no fillibuster BS. Why do you suppose this is (especially given that the republicans are the less “progressive†of the parties). Will you, or someone else, intelligently answer why the big difference btwn Clinton and Bush nominees treatment?
Comment by Giacomo — January 12, 2006 @ 3:19 pm
Yep. Clinton picked relatively moderate, non-controversial nomineees. Bush has picked a fascist, misgynistic neocon to replace a moderate. Apples and oranges… no make that apples and grapefruits…
Ginsburg has consistently supported abortion rights but in 2000 she helped vote down Nebraska’s partial-birth abortion law. That makes her a moderate. Alito has said he would overturn Roe v. Wade That makes him an extreme conservative (since most Americans want abortion kept legal).
Liberals think. Conservatives have blind faith. Not our fault if you guys didn’t drive the car before you bought it… So stop crying that we want a test drive.
January 12th, 2006 at 4:09 pmNo, I’m making a point that people like you who’ve never experienced a real tragedy find this sort of thing horrific. Get a life. What happened is nothing to cry over. It’s assinine to cry about this. I bet she cries over broken nails and prays to Jesus to that the Mexicans who parked her Cadillac SUV won’t have moved the seat…
It has nothing to do with chronological or emotional age … I obviously don’t think the Alito barrage is a major ordeal to endure, but I would be upset to watch a loved one be slandered without being able to help them … and I think most would feel uncomfortable as well. I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t be reduced to tears, but that’s me. I wold’ve thought, though, that you’d be a little empathetic and supportive of another person … Incidentally, I feel confident in saying that I’d feel the same were it a Democrat nominee …
Yep. Clinton picked relatively moderate, non-controversial nomineees. Bush has picked a fascist, misgynistic neocon to replace a moderate. Apples and oranges… no make that apples and grapefruits…
Well …. I guess that IS an answer … I foolishly assumed that you’d see a correlary between Ginsburg/Liberal and Alito/Conservative but that was, appearantly, a poor assumption on my part. From a conservative perspective, I have to tell you that RBG is extremely liberal … likely, as conservative/right you think Alito to be, I believe RBG to be liberal/left. That’s just my opinion (I’m sure you’d say RGB isn’t that uber-liberal just like I think Alito isn’t uber-right … it is somewhat dependent on our individual perspectives).
Ginsburg has consistently supported abortion rights but in 2000 she helped vote down Nebraska’s partial-birth abortion law. That makes her a moderate. Alito has said he would overturn Roe v. Wade That makes him an extreme conservative (since most Americans want abortion kept legal).
No … that makes her a good judge who isn’t an ideologue to the billionth degree … she is able to recognize bad law. By the way, I’d encourage you to look up her opinion on Roe … you may be surprized that she could possibly overturn it as well (but for different reasons than Alito might, obviously). Many legal experts feel Roe was poorly decided and that abortion is on more tenuous grounds because of this (RBG is in this camp). Most Americans support a “woman’s right to choose” or a “right to privacy” but when asked specifically if they’d consider an abortion, the answer is no … in the theoretical it’s all fine and good, but when the practical application is considered most balk.
Liberals think. Conservatives have blind faith.
This comment seems to say the obvious. Think and Conservative are not antonyms … look around you. Life isn’t black and white … you’re sounding as dogmatic as a religious fundamentalist …
January 12th, 2006 at 6:07 pmI guess what I’ve learned today is, for liberals …
1) RBG and Alito cannot be compared (the nomination processes) because RBG isn’t that liberal but Alito is a raving lunatic conservative.
2) Democrats have every right to act like total jerks because it’s “a lifetime appointment”.
3) Alito’s wife is a wuss.
4) The court can’t be filled by people liberals think to be conservative ideologues, but the people conservatives think to be liberal ideologues are fine.
5) Clinton appointees were “moderate” but Bush appointees are “extreme”. (This is extremely funny considering what most conservatives think about Breyer and Ginsburg)
6) Any nominee to the SCOTUS must pass liberal muster … if they don’t, they should be fillibustered … the conservatives should not engage in a like manner (nor, mind you, have they ever)
It amazes me that most can’t see the 1 to 1 correlation to Clinton’s and Bush’s nominees. The facts are that the conservatives respected the right of the executive branch to nominate who he wanted (in spite of misgivings about those nominees), but liberals extend no such respect. In fact, they feel morally superior when they call for the ouster of Bush nominees … you can try and excuse this all you want but, in so doing, only reveal how truly dogmatic and non-progressive you actually are.
January 12th, 2006 at 6:16 pmJanuary 12th, 2006 at 6:43 pm
This was all a planned scene. Graham was a coach for Alito; and the questioning was no more “tough” than for other candidates — it’s just that the swift boaters prepared the senators and the MSM to exploit the playacting.
January 12th, 2006 at 6:52 pmLook, Look!! Those nasty Democrats made the little woman cry!
Anyone who has observed anything in politics would have been well prepared for scrutinizing questions — this was another Con sham.
Unfortunately, the Supreme Court will be the lasting infection of the Bush presidency. It is our children and grandchildren that will suffer the lasting effects of these appointments.
Once Bush’s conduct is sanctified by the SCOTUS, which seems to be the entire point of his last 2 nominees, America will no longer be a nation of laws.
I guess I’m glad I don’t have kids. We are definitely becoming a darker, less-hopeful place to live.
January 12th, 2006 at 7:47 pmGiacomo,
Yes, as usual, you assume… ass – u – me (actually just an ass of u).
The problem with trying to discuss anything with you is that you keep trying to change the rules mid-play to your advantage, while crying about the injustices of the world! It’s a tactic some of the kids use because it works on their parents. Whine enough and you’ll get your way. All you’ve done is criticize and offer myopic personal opinion in a passive-agressive format. Do you have anything valid to say, or are you just swinging both fists with your eyes closed hoping to hit something?
As I’ve said before, I’m not a Democrat. I think Bill Clinton has done some terrible things as well. I don’t consider him a liberal. I consider him a moderate. If you wanted me to consider him a liberal, then say so – state your definitions and quit playing games. To me, Ruth Bader Ginsberg is a moderate. You asked and I told you, so quit bitching about how I define moderate, if you didn’t state it up front.
You don’t seem to get that the opposition party is supposed to oppose… if the repugs are too lazy to oppose, that’s not the dems fault, and it doesn’t give you a platform to demonize them for doing their job. At least they are paying attention…
January 12th, 2006 at 8:42 pm“The facts are that the conservatives respected the right of the executive branch to nominate who he wanted (in spite of misgivings about those nominees), but liberals extend no such respect. Giacomo”
The opposite is true. Clinton asked Hatch for his consideration, and only chose candidates that passed Republican approval before the process went forward. Bush however did the opposite, he put forward Alito without involving Democrats and didn’t offer the same kind of rejection/veto capacity.
I don’t think you intend on lying or misrepresenting the situation here – but you are. What you said is 100% the opposite of the truth, and in fact it is conservatives who rejected SCOTUS candidates under both Clinton and Bush (Miers), and not liberals. Conservatives have acted like children on this topic for years, and this is no different.
January 12th, 2006 at 8:45 pmIt amazes me that most can’t see the 1 to 1 correlation to Clinton’s and Bush’s nominees. The facts are that the conservatives respected the right of the executive branch to nominate who he wanted (in spite of misgivings about those nominees), but liberals extend no such respect. In fact, they feel morally superior when they call for the ouster of Bush nominees … you can try and excuse this all you want but, in so doing, only reveal how truly dogmatic and non-progressive you actually are.
Comment by Giacomo — January 12, 2006 @ 6:16 pm
Your holier-than-thou view of the world must really be heavy… you assume the worst in everyone except yourself and your side. You aren’t giving equal consideration.
I’m not dogmatic at all – just holding up a mirror for you to se yourself, and when you don’t like what you see reflected there, you try to throw a bunch of insults and throw a pity party with the hope of deflecting the obvious fact that you are delusional. You truly are delusional and grasping at straws. Please, seek professional help.
January 12th, 2006 at 8:47 pmDoctors who provided abortions before the Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 know too well the consequences women suffer when abortion is illegal and not accessible.
http://www.prochoice.org/policy/courts/doctorsspeak.html
Dr. Phillip Stubblefield
Dr. Stubblefield fears the consequences of a return to pre-Roe days. “We would go back to the bad old days where women got abortions anyway. Some women could afford to go out of state. Others could not. In the 1940s, 1,000 women a year died of illegal abortions. Maybe we would not go back to that level, but we would undoubtedly have a lot of sick women.”
Dr. William Harrison
“During the first six months of my residency, almost all abortions, except for those done to save the life or physical health of the mother, were illegal. Each night we would admit to the wards of University Hospital in Little Rock (a fairly small hospital, as metropolitan hospitals go) girls and women with raging fevers, extraordinary uterine and pelvic infections, enormous blood loss, and a multitude of serious injuries of the pelvic and intra-abdominal organs as a result of illegal and self-induced abortions.”
Dr. Curtis Boyd
“Many of the doctors of conscience who have provided abortions through the years were moved to do so by the horrors of botched illegal abortions. I saw those ill and sometimes dying women in my medical training too. I was moved by their plight. But that was not what drove me to risk my career and sometimes my life. I was moved by the certain knowledge that women’s lives could be ruined when they could not abort a pregnancy.”
Dr. Eugene Glick
“I think the image that I retain was that of a 31-year-old Mexican-American woman who died of endotoxic shock with her husband and four or five children around,” he says. “And that scene is in my mind and has been in my mind coming back all the time. I see the bed, I see the kids crying and I see the husband crying.”
Dr. Mildred Hanson
As the head of a hospital committee on abortion and sterilization in the 1960s, Dr. Mildred Hanson coached women through an elaborate system to prove that an unwanted pregnancy threatened their life or mental health. But one day she received a frantic call from a young woman seeking her help, and without a name or number all she could do was familiarize her with the process and ask her to call back. She never called back. “I later learned that she committed suicide by jumping out of a 17th-story window. To this day, I feel responsible for her death.”
January 12th, 2006 at 8:59 pmI was moved by the certain knowledge that women’s lives could be ruined when they could not abort a pregnancy.â€
Of course, they could be responsible and not get pregnant in the first place … children are indeed a tremendous burden if one is not prepared for them … the solution we’ve found? Kill them. How a woman could choose to violently rip her child out of her womb is beyond me (and, more importantly, my wife).
I’m sure that few people (of all political ideologies) are pro-abortion … the actual procedure itself … what a horrible process to even consider. Maybe someone can help me understand … I always thought it to be extremely barbaric … now that I have children of my own (and having witnessed some of their births (some are adopted)) I shudder to consider abortion. Can’t we as a society at least agree to try and end the need for the procedure altogether … whatever one’s opinion, pro-choice or pro-life, shouldn’t we all be working to reduce the abortions? Birth control, family planning, etc … we have the resources … I will never understand why pro-choice people seem unwilling to say that “this is a horrible, terrible procedure that takes an emotional toll … we must help women avoid this if at all possible … we must try and emphasize proper birth control … we must emphasize adoption … we believe in a woman’s right to choose, but we’d rather her not have to make that choice”. I’d, at least, then understand that the pro-choice position is not callously indifferent to a human life being snuffed out (and if you’ve seen the 4-D ultrasound at 10 weeks, you know it’s human). Why is it that Scott Peterson is charged with double murder, but Laci could’ve aborted her child without repurcussion … the “personhood” of the child/fetus can’t just be about the mother’s opinion of it … it can’t.
I understand the rationale behind being pro-choice … I do. But on an emotional level, when I look at a newborn premie … a baby who still could be aborted … I wonder why we consider it a better option sometimes to kill it than bring it into the world. Anyone? If you don’t have children, by the way, I’m not sure you can completely understand …
January 12th, 2006 at 11:49 pmThis is pathetic. The Republicans have stated how shocked they are at how deferential the Dems have been. Hell, they have been downright chivalrous to that pathetic, inbred, misogynist. And they still pull off this sham to make the American people feel sorry for this putz. Well, the right buys it (they would buy feces if it was sold by the Republicans), hopefully the people don’t. Pathetic excuse for an act, Keanu Reaves could throw a fit better than that.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:50 pmHell, they have been downright chivalrous to that pathetic, inbred, misogynist.
Yeah … at least they didn’t call him inbred …
January 12th, 2006 at 11:52 pmOh, and Tetra? Perhaps you would like to say somethig intelligent?
January 13th, 2006 at 12:01 amYes, Jacko, they didn’t. Too bad too.
January 13th, 2006 at 12:02 am#64- you say “if you can sit by and watch someone slander a loved one without being upsrt, more power to you. For most people this would be difficult to watch.” And- “there are worse things that could happen than a spouse be slandered in a professional forum, that means it doesn’t affect a person?” And are implying by these statements that Democrats are heartless rogues? Well your scenario would have a little more credibility, if not for the Valerie Plame-Joe Wilson affair. Sorry, but I think most of us can remember the vicious shredding they were treated to at the hands of the Republican hordes. But I’m sure that you defended them, didn’t you? Wilson/Plame, I mean.
January 13th, 2006 at 5:43 amSorry, but I think most of us can remember the vicious shredding they were treated to at the hands of the Republican hordes. But I’m sure that you defended them, didn’t you? Wilson/Plame, I mean.
I understand your point from a macrofocused view, but I felt the same about the Plames. I felt they shouldn’t be attacked, but should be inspected fairly … I felt Kennedy’s comments this week went far beyond fair into the attack realm.
January 13th, 2006 at 6:49 amGiacomo,
After what Hillary Clinton watched her husband endure, she didn’t cry once. Yet your side pummled that poor woman who had done nothing… Don’t forget about that.
Of course, they could be responsible and not get pregnant in the first place … children are indeed a tremendous burden if one is not prepared for them … the solution we’ve found? Kill them. How a woman could choose to violently rip her child out of her womb is beyond me (and, more importantly, my wife).
Responsible? 85% of women who get pregnant use some form of birth control. And don’t say ‘don’t have sex’… that’s not realistic. People have sex the same way they eat, it’s a survival instinct.
Having an abortion is not killing, unlike the cow or chicken you had for dinner last night. A fetus is a cluster of cells. It isn’t conscious yet. Most women have an abortion in the first 8 weeks when it doesn’t have much more than a brain stem (the reptilian brain that does little more than functional activities. No consciousness is required.) Very, very few women abort fetuses in the third trimester. You should read some statistics before you start assuming and accusing…
Some countries have discovered a that treating women equally with men in society actually reduces this situation. In our heirarchal culture we still treat women like second class citizens. You wanna fix this issue, then start demanding and Equal Rights Amendment, and that women be treated with as much respect as men. Countries such as Sweden, Norway, Austria, Germany and The Netherlands already do this. They have a lower rate of crime, no population increase, very low unemployment and more stable economies. In contrast, pick a country in Africa and the crime rates are horrific, unemployment is off the charts and they are amid disease and poverty. You want to reduce this problem significantly? Start by respecting a woman’s right to choose… making it illegal is the EXACT opposite.
January 13th, 2006 at 7:16 am#85- Well the Wilson/Plame affair was an attack by the Bush Administration in their attempts to distract from the facts revealed by Joe Wilson, mainly that Bush & Co. were not being upfront about the truthfulness of the “intellegence” they were using to justify what they were doing. In this case we have a person who is applying for a job that he cannot be fired from, if it turns out that he was fibbing too. If his wife can’t handle it, maybe she shold not be there. Alot is at stake here, and a weeping woman should not be allowed to muddy the waters. She cries for a few minutes, but we will be suffering for decades. Sorry, no contest. And Valerie Plame risked her life to protect us from terrorists. She should have been able to trust her President, and those who work for him, to protect her. Oh well, you can’t have everything.
January 13th, 2006 at 10:38 am85% of women who get pregnant use some form of birth control.
I’m confused about this stat … is it saying that women were actively using birth control and still got pregnant (which would mean birth control is not 97-98% effective) or is it saying that they’ve used birth control in the past (but may not have when they conceived). As far as I knew, most birth control choices were between 95 to 98% effective … inform me if you know otherwise. Given that, it appears that while the person may have used birth control in the past (or have a subscription) they didn’t and thus conceived a child … I fully understand, though, that getting pregnant is not 100% due to irresponsibility … I do.
Having an abortion is not killing, unlike the cow or chicken you had for dinner last night. A fetus is a cluster of cells. It isn’t conscious yet.
I can sort of understand this argument (the cells) but it is most certainly killing something … whether you consider it cells, or whatever … a “life” is expunged. Have you seen a picture at 8 weeks
how about 16 weeks
Looks like a baby, doesn’t it … hardly a “group of cells”. By the way, I had fish last night :-) I understand you feel the baby “isn’t conscious yet” … but how do we define conscious? Do you have children … have you ever observed a premie … they don’t do anything. In fact, from about 12 after conception until 1 month after birth, a baby’s behaviors are very similar … a lot of sleep, some movement, and some awake time. I wonder where the threashold is between “abortable bunch of cells” and “baby” … from 20 weeks on, there’s a chance of a premie’s survival … still can be aborted then. Where does it go from cells to baby for you? And you didn’t answer my Scott Peterson question …
Very, very few women abort fetuses in the third trimester. You should read some statistics before you start assuming and accusing…
I agree … they still do though. Here are some of the stats.
I’m sure some of those stats may disturb you (the sex selection one is outrageous).
You want to reduce this problem significantly? Start by respecting a woman’s right to choose… making it illegal is the EXACT opposite.
That seems counter-intuitive to me … I have a question for you, and you have every right to not answer of course. Would you get an abortion? It’s all fine and good to believe in the right, but would you do so? Most women I’ve asked say they believe in the right to choose, but would never choose to do so … why is that?
It sometimes helps to bring an argument out of the hypothetical … why do most woman support the right, but don’t think they’d ever excercise it ……. ?
January 13th, 2006 at 11:52 amor have a subscription
Pardon me … presecription (duh).
January 13th, 2006 at 11:53 amI ask you to reconcile how RBG and Breyer virtually sailed through confirmation … the Republicans had concerns over both of them (RBG head attorney for ACLU, etc). They asked the questions they wanted, and approved Clinton’s nominees … no great grandstanding … no long monologues … no fillibuster BS. Why do you suppose this is (especially given that the republicans are the less “progressive†of the parties).
Comment by Giacomo #64
jaggoffmore,
The reason is MOST WASP males (your republiscum “majority”) didn’t have to worry that RBG and Breyer were going to uphold rulings that would set their civil rights back 60 years…
They (you’ve) always enjoyed a privileged status in this country…
The republiscum WASP males didn’t have to fear RBG and Breyer making abortions illegal…
…they knew the secret abortions that they routinely pay for- for their inbred girlfriends- would remain legal (no threat to them)…
In other words, no matter who’s on the SC the WASP males have nothing to worry about, especially when 9 times out of 10 that person is going to be a WASP male or WASP male sympathizer…
January 13th, 2006 at 12:03 pm#89 You asked for it, Giacomo. This is a baby, too. One dead baby in Iraq, as many are dying now due to YOUR war started by YOU BUSH VOTERS AND YOUR BUSHITE GOP.
Sorry all for the image, but some people looks as if they don’t touch anymore. I must do this.
There are many more at Babykillers
January 13th, 2006 at 12:15 pmGiacomo,
The sad reality of the world we live in is that death happens at all stages… The sooner you accept that in this world one life dies to feed, protect, defend, or make room for another the less you’ll be awake at night trying to figure out how to change a system that you can’t control.
Death is a part of life. This is the reality that I talk about coming to terms with. The reality that sometimes nature aborts an 8 week old fetus. Sometimes it is done by a doctor. It really isn’t any different in the result that not all fetuses become humans. You can’t legislate that away. And thinking you can, will only drive you crazy…
The best any of us can do is to cherish the life we have. It’s all you control. Anything otherwise is setting yourself up for constant disappointment.
I’ve seen aborted fetuses and photos of fetuses in the womb. There’s a reason they are called fetuses and not babies… And in reality, they do not supercede an existing human life. I dated a guy who was a paramedic in the military before I knew him. He said that they were taught that if they arrived at the scene of an accident and there was a mother and children in equal life-threatening need of attention, they should always treat the mother first… always.
January 13th, 2006 at 5:08 pmIn other words, no matter who’s on the SC the WASP males have nothing to worry about, especially when 9 times out of 10 that person is going to be a WASP male or WASP male sympathizer…
Comment by big papa — January 13, 2006 @ 12:03 pm
Touche…
I just told I-RIGHT-I a similar thing in regard to his current racist tantrum… that he’s never been discriminated against in this country and has not one inkling of understanding of what it is like to be among the minority of anything and in need of protection from the likes of him…
January 13th, 2006 at 5:14 pmHey, Evil Spaniard, when it comes to fighting ignornace, you gotta do what you gotta do. Excellent point.
January 13th, 2006 at 5:14 pmThat seems counter-intuitive to me … I have a question for you, and you have every right to not answer of course. Would you get an abortion? It’s all fine and good to believe in the right, but would you do so? Most women I’ve asked say they believe in the right to choose, but would never choose to do so … why is that?
It sometimes helps to bring an argument out of the hypothetical … why do most woman support the right, but don’t think they’d ever excercise it ……. ?
Yes, I would. But you’re trying to generalize here, and that’s not fair… One woman’s circumstances are different from another’s.
Same reason I voted for the lottery in my state many years ago when I personally don’t gamble. It’s not my place to tell others how to live their lives.
P.S. Life is routinely counterintuitive to those who think they can control others. It’s like someone who wants others to like him so he goes around constantly telling people how wonderful he is, and as a result no one likes him… By giving women the respect to choose (equal rights, equal pay, etc.) , you’ll have fewer abortions than if you disrespect their intelligence by illegalizing it. The research backs it up:
Where abortions occur:
78% of all abortions are obtained in developing countries and 22% occur in developed countries.
Among countries where abortion is legal without restriction as to reason, the highest abortion rate, 83 per 1,000, was reported for Vietnam and the lowest, seven per 1,000, for Belgium and the Netherlands.
Abortion rates are no lower overall in areas where abortion is generally restricted by law (and where many abortions are performed under unsafe conditions) than in areas where abortion is legally permitted.
Legality of abortion:
January 13th, 2006 at 5:31 pmAbout 26 million women obtain legal abortions each year, while an additional 20 million abortions are obtained in countries where it is restricted or prohibited by law.
#95 Thanks, unveliebable, but I fear I’be been too harsh anyways. But simply I can’t stand these people that thinks war, any war, can solve anything.
January 13th, 2006 at 9:04 pm#97 Gosh, 3 am here. Milions of typos: “unbelievable, I’ve” and surely many more. And in three lines. Awful.
January 13th, 2006 at 9:06 pmWhat are you doing up at 3:00 a.m.?
Yeah, my typos are bad when I’m awake :)
I don’t think it was too harsh. Though Giacomo is clearly more sensitive about reality than most people at this point in life. I think he’s probably avoided it until recently, as it was much the same for me when I took my blind-fold off…
I struggle myself, because I want to be happy, but at the same time, I don’t want to become desensitized to the point that compassion gets lost, you know?
The problem here is that the news we get is frequently not news at all. Our government has become extremely corrupt because it has literally been purchased by a handful of gluttonous Corporations – and they now own the major media operations. We live in a twisted version of Disneyland here. And the Internet is our last remaining bastion of free speech… for now. I imagine this is currently on the butcher block to the highest bidder and in a matter of years, we will be cut off from the world entirely. Unless we stage a Revolution, and I presently don’t see that happening. Things just haven’t gotten bad enough for the average over-weight, remote controlled American. But they will. As we like to say here in t.v. land – stay tuned…
January 14th, 2006 at 8:11 amWell, friday night, you know. A spanish sandwich supper, movies (Aeon Flux), and a drink with friends. Nothing extraordinary. And well, here in Spain we do strange timings, even for europeans, an usual hour for starting supper is between 9pm and 10pm, and is usually movies begin at 10pm-10.45pm.
Yes, I know that tv “correctness” abstract facts from ideas, and in the USA is too common. The first televised Baghdad bombardment in the war was only about lights and fireworks. No died bodies. The first images of the war were only lights on the horizon, and an idiot embedded periodist talking about the boldness of the american troops in the land. Sorry, but I don’t buy this ticket. A soldier bombing a city with a missile from a ship in the sea, a tank or an airplane spreads so many terror between the civilians as a suicide bomber. But, alas, the tv viewer doesn’t see this. Only tales of bold soldiers. And the politicians “don’t do body counts”. Yes, war is hell, but then those who wage war are sinful demons, not heros, nor poor boys lost in a war, not careful politicians. But too much people in the USA buys the “freedom” chatter and forgets that the actions they condone are killing and causing misery, pain and hatred.
January 14th, 2006 at 8:57 amSounds like a nice evening to me actually. I remember showing up for dinner at a restuarant in Barcelona at 7:30 and it was empty… But I have to get up at 6:00 for work, so 10:00 is my bedtime. Sounds so boring in comparison :). I prefer night myself. Would sleep until 10:00 a.m. every morning and go to bed at 2:00 a.m. But, nobody asks me… so I’m up before the sun. :)
So, this current bombing this morning in Pakistan is all over the news here. I’m sure it will be sold as another galliant effort to capture the evil-doers. They probably blew up another wedding… This is out of control. He’s treating the world as if it is his child to inflict corporeal punishment how ever he desires. I think he’s on the verge of starting World War III… And if he attacks Iran, I’m moving to whatever European country will let me in… So I spent an hour this morning signing more online petitions to have him Impeached.
I got a 3D world atlas this morning. I figure it will be nice to see the world, while it still exists :)
January 14th, 2006 at 2:37 pmWell, really we do this only in weekends, in the week we awake too early, and begin work at 6am – 9am, depending on the job… the greater difference is living a bit outside the limits at weekend, and going to bed early at sunday night.
Yes, the bombing in Pakistan (One of the last “willing” of the coalition), without informing the leaders of the country, from an unmanned plane, showering a lot of missiles on a village, and resulting in civil casualties only does greater damage of the USA standing, in Pakistan and the world. It’s a lame, cowboy way of doing things, as people of other countries were not so precious as the one of the USA…
I hope your world atlas will remain a good couple years unchanged…
January 16th, 2006 at 7:59 amI think Bush and people like him are incapable of understanding anything beyond their own gluttony…
I read that record numbers of Americans are ex-patriating, but that the government refuses to keep records because, I guess, it hurts their feelings that someone would willing give up all of this…
I hope you’re right about the atlas too… :)
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