Below you’ll find a report on what topic seemed most to interest participants at events around the country. Hint: It starts with the letter I.
You’ll also find a report of an important new story confirming the Downing Street Minutes and detailing which Americans Sir Richard Dearlove met with before he reported to Prime Minister Tony Blair that the “facts were being fixed around the policy.” We need your help in forcing the media to cover this new development. See the link below.
You’ll also want to read the cover story from the latest issue of The Nation:
The Impeachment of George W. Bush
By Elizabeth Holtzman, The Nation http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/6682
Murtha changed the course of this government. Maybe now we can go after the terrorists like Zawahiri and Zarqawi.
Why don’t you want to catch the terrorists, Tetra King? Why did the Bush government give up on catching the terrorists?
Uh, oh! It’s going to be frenzy-time for the trolls!
Rep. Jack Murtha served his country by enlisting in the Marines, and continues to serve his country as an elected representative. I wonder how many people will disagree with him simply because he doesn’t say “ditto” to the current administration or the President.
Don’t forget, it was a Republican who said “You can support the troops, and not support the President!” Can you guess who said that? Will it now be argued that he was wrong?
Murtha is a shameless pig. He only picked up the anti-war gig because he was two steps away from being investigated by House ethics. . Now, he can claim it is a right-wing conspiracy.
Murtha is red meat for the Dim base. You wouldn’t know good politics if it slapped you in the face. Thankfully, you have been routed from power and will have no say in the direction of this country.
I will only repeat this once.
Chinas Population is over 1.5 BILLION People
Indias Population is over 1 Billion People
The ENTIRE Worlds Population is less than6.6 BILLION People.
America has LESS than 300 MILLION People.
IF China And America get into a FIGHT Over Freedom VS Communisim, America WILL Lose A Whole lot more Monetary and Lives than what She is Losing at the Moment with this so called war of terror.
China OUTNUMBERS America by Four People to One.
The Odds of winning a war against China??
I Dont Know.
Murtha said:
“Iraq is not about terrorism; it’s about civil war”.
“Iraq is not enhancing the war against terror, In fact, just the opposite is true: Iraq is hurting our prospects for winning the fight against terror. We’ve become the issue over there. Abu Ghraib and Fallujah have hurt us badly. That’s why we need to take ourselves out of the equation.”
Tetra, can you offer a reasoned response to his statement, or are you going to continue to bleat the radical-right-wing talking points, and add nothing but bluff and bluster to the argument?
I have still no response to the post on the Republican who said “You can support the troops, and not support the Presidentâ€.
“Strategy for Victory” means high returns for the armament industry.
Murka must continue this war. If the expert economists say it is going to cost two trillion dollars over the next few years, how can it stop?
Long live George Bush, the emperor has no brains, oops, I mean clothes, no, I mean booze, no, not that, the emperor has no mission to accomplish… the war must go on. Yeah, well, whatever.
Red, White and Blue, Go Fight Win
Forget about those twelve thousand wounded and two thousand plus dead. It don’t mean nuthin.
#7
Repub talking point #12- “We control everything right now, We control everything right now, we control everythign right now.” Love that short sightedness.
Yikes!!! How LOW Can Americans STOOP? Read the below.
Really sad and pathetic.
Girl, 7, killed in N.Y. apartment
Evidence she was bound; stepfather, mother chargedThursday, January 12, 2006; Posted: 8:09 a.m. EST (13:09 GMT)
NEW YORK (AP) — A 7-year-old girl found dead in an apartment she shared with five siblings was apparently bound and held captive before her stepfather killed her with a vicious blow to the head, authorities said Wednesday.
The girl’s stepfather was charged with murder and sexual abuse, and her mother was charged with manslaughter and reckless endangerment, police said.
#16 – When they lose the majority (which history has proven happens to everyone in the majority), I’m sure their mantra will be “How could the Decmorats have done this to us? How could the Decmorats have done this to us? How could the Decmorats have done this to us?”
Don’t forget, anything that the R’s don’t like is because the D’s did it. Anything the R’s messed up is because the D’s did it. Anything the R’s fail in doing is because the D’s caused it. Also, for fun, you can replace “D” with “Pres. Clinton” in the above paragraph. It’s ammounts to the same thing: the party of “personal responsibility” refuses to take personal responsibility for anything they do or cause.
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I sometimes wonder, what would I do if a Foreign Government tried to invade the U.S. and impose their system of Government upon us???
What would you do???
Would you be willing to sacrifice your life to repel this invader???
Moreover, would you fight with whatever weaponry you had at your disposal to kill this invader???
Finally, would you sit back and accept his “COLLATERAL DAMAGE” and invasion, and allow him to give you what he deems is a better way for you and your people to live???
If you choose to fight to the death with this invader, do you think it would be justified to be labeled a TERRORIST, OR FREEDOM FIGHTER??? ENEMY COMBATANT OR MURDEROUS THUGS???
If this invader dropped Bombs upon your innocent Women and Children by the TENS OF THOUSANDS in order to impose his will, do you think that would be acceptable “COLLATERAL DAMAGE”????????
#23 – I don’t think he needs a hidden identity. He;s doing a great job of questioning the boy-king, also known as Pres. Bush.
By the bye, I will always respect the office of President even if I think the person holding it is a half-witted pawn of special interests and a lackey for corporate interests over the individual citizen. I will always refer to him as Pres. Bush. People who just call him ‘Bush’, just like the people who called Pres. Clinton ‘Clinton’, have disgraced the office of President by their slander.
I like it Murtha. I like it a lot. Nothing makes the neocons duck and cover quicker than a healthy dose of truth. I like the fact that Murtha isn’t afraid to call a spade a spade. He doesn’t pull punches and speaks plainly enough that anyone can follow his logic. I wish there were more people like Murtha holding leadership positions in all political parties.
No More War, murkas nuklear submarines would level China in less than four hours. That new dam on the Yellow River would be dust. Besides, the last thing China wants is a war with the US. They know they’re toast if they do.
Don’t underestimate the war-making capabilities of murka.
Murtha is right all the way, it is time to get out of Iraq.
George Bush is just too embarassed to admit he was wrong when he said ‘Mission Accomplished.’
How does “President Douchebag” grab you? I’m sorry, but when someone urinates all over the constitution and gets thousands of our own killed on the basis of lies (not to mention tens of thousands of civilians), then he quickly loses my support. Pres. Clinton may have been a slickster, but I still held some respect for the office during his time (and I’m not even a Democrat). But what’s happened over the past give years is simply mega-tragic.
Tetra King knows that he can’t answer the questions. Notice that anytime someone provides a very logical question, that the trolls dissapear? They must contact the DOD to find out what they should say now. Like the Borg, if they are disconnected from Bushes brain they are just a walking piece of flesh.
Poor trolls, maybe someday our scientists can find a way to disconnect that wire and allow them to have a normal life. Oh wait, Bush does not believe in science and therefore they would be in this canatonic state forever.
#30 – I understand your sentiments. I felt that Pres. Clinton was disengenious in his arguments about whether he slept with “that woman”. If only he had known that (ala Pres. Bush) he could have said that “when I was irresponsible, I was irresponsible” and that would have been the end of it.
I may refer to Pres. Bush as the “boy-king” or the “post turtle” or “lying liar”, but I will not just call him “Bush”. He was selected President by the Supreme Court in 2000, and he was elected (or Diebold selected him) in 2004. While I think he’s a miserable failure, and his lies and obfuscations have lost military lives, he still is President.
That’s something that I have yet to hear one single Republican say out loud. In my opinion, it makes their arguments less-than-credible when they claim that Pres. Clinton reduced the respect of the office of President. When they spit on the title when a D is in office, it carries over into when an R is in office. It can’t only work one-way.
#32 – It boils down to the subject. Trolls are great at framing straw-man arguments, but when you push for a simple answer, then they either attack the question, attack the questioner, change the subject, or fade away.
Troll standard operating procedure: When the going gets tough, cowards cut and run. (Like how I used their words against them there?)
Lately I’ve been liking dkos alot more because they boot the idiots. Mind you, they boot too many folks. They aren’t much better than redstate in that reguard. But lately, we’ve had way to many morons comin’ over here to piss on the liberals. No fun at all.
dem solider the day I call the man behind the desk president is when he is elected fairly in a free election, until then eff this guy, Bush, running the country into the ground
1 – No More War: thanks for the link; excellent article. Makes me want to demand that our government cease and desist all activities NOW, and focus on impeachment proceedings against this administration. No more appointments, nominations, or other executive activities by any person appointed by this pseudo president.
Democratic Soldier, I have more respect for you and your service than for the people in our administration. I will show respect where it is earned and due and in this case it is neither. The Bush bunch are nothing more than thieves, liers and distroyers of our country, constitution and the world for power and money. The only good thing about this discussion is that we are still able to have it, if this bunch has their way that may not alway’s be the case…Blessings
Below you’ll find a report on what topic seemed most to interest participants at events around the country. Hint: It starts with the letter I.
You’ll also find a report of an important new story confirming the Downing Street Minutes and detailing which Americans Sir Richard Dearlove met with before he reported to Prime Minister Tony Blair that the “facts were being fixed around the policy.” We need your help in forcing the media to cover this new development. See the link below.
You’ll also want to read the cover story from the latest issue of The Nation:
January 12th, 2006 at 10:12 amThe Impeachment of George W. Bush
By Elizabeth Holtzman, The Nation
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/6682
Murtha is still in the fight for what – Betraying his country?
January 12th, 2006 at 10:17 amMurtha changed the course of this government. Maybe now we can go after the terrorists like Zawahiri and Zarqawi.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:20 amWhy don’t you want to catch the terrorists, Tetra King?
Why did the Bush government give up on catching the terrorists?
Uh, oh! It’s going to be frenzy-time for the trolls!
Rep. Jack Murtha served his country by enlisting in the Marines, and continues to serve his country as an elected representative. I wonder how many people will disagree with him simply because he doesn’t say “ditto” to the current administration or the President.
Don’t forget, it was a Republican who said “You can support the troops, and not support the President!” Can you guess who said that? Will it now be argued that he was wrong?
January 12th, 2006 at 10:21 amMurtha knows soldiers are being used as beurocrats and it’s only polite manners that are preventing Americans from abandoning them.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:24 am#2 – How can it be “betraying the country’ to want to keep our military members alive?
Why do you hate our military so much!?!?
January 12th, 2006 at 10:24 amMurtha is a shameless pig. He only picked up the anti-war gig because he was two steps away from being investigated by House ethics. . Now, he can claim it is a right-wing conspiracy.
Murtha is red meat for the Dim base. You wouldn’t know good politics if it slapped you in the face. Thankfully, you have been routed from power and will have no say in the direction of this country.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:29 amTetris King. Go back to your Playstation. You are way too young to talk politics.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:30 amby the way Tetris King, Whats your High Score?
January 12th, 2006 at 10:31 am#7 – Why are you calling a decorated veteran a “shameless pig”???
Why do you hate our veterans so much?!?!?
January 12th, 2006 at 10:34 amI will only repeat this once.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:38 amChinas Population is over 1.5 BILLION People
Indias Population is over 1 Billion People
The ENTIRE Worlds Population is less than6.6 BILLION People.
America has LESS than 300 MILLION People.
IF China And America get into a FIGHT Over Freedom VS Communisim, America WILL Lose A Whole lot more Monetary and Lives than what She is Losing at the Moment with this so called war of terror.
China OUTNUMBERS America by Four People to One.
The Odds of winning a war against China??
I Dont Know.
Murtha said:
“Iraq is not about terrorism; it’s about civil war”.
“Iraq is not enhancing the war against terror, In fact, just the opposite is true: Iraq is hurting our prospects for winning the fight against terror. We’ve become the issue over there. Abu Ghraib and Fallujah have hurt us badly. That’s why we need to take ourselves out of the equation.”
Tetra, can you offer a reasoned response to his statement, or are you going to continue to bleat the radical-right-wing talking points, and add nothing but bluff and bluster to the argument?
I have still no response to the post on the Republican who said “You can support the troops, and not support the Presidentâ€.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:38 amTetris, Your Mommy is calling you.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:40 am“Strategy for Victory” means high returns for the armament industry.
Murka must continue this war. If the expert economists say it is going to cost two trillion dollars over the next few years, how can it stop?
Long live George Bush, the emperor has no brains, oops, I mean clothes, no, I mean booze, no, not that, the emperor has no mission to accomplish… the war must go on. Yeah, well, whatever.
Red, White and Blue, Go Fight Win
Forget about those twelve thousand wounded and two thousand plus dead. It don’t mean nuthin.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:40 amI hate the smell of trolls in the morning….as if they are going to change anyones mind with ‘no facts’ talk.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:42 am#7
January 12th, 2006 at 10:43 amRepub talking point #12- “We control everything right now, We control everything right now, we control everythign right now.” Love that short sightedness.
Yikes!!! How LOW Can Americans STOOP? Read the below.
Really sad and pathetic.
Girl, 7, killed in N.Y. apartment
Evidence she was bound; stepfather, mother chargedThursday, January 12, 2006; Posted: 8:09 a.m. EST (13:09 GMT)
NEW YORK (AP) — A 7-year-old girl found dead in an apartment she shared with five siblings was apparently bound and held captive before her stepfather killed her with a vicious blow to the head, authorities said Wednesday.
The girl’s stepfather was charged with murder and sexual abuse, and her mother was charged with manslaughter and reckless endangerment, police said.
http://www.cnn.com/US
January 12th, 2006 at 10:44 am#16 – When they lose the majority (which history has proven happens to everyone in the majority), I’m sure their mantra will be “How could the Decmorats have done this to us? How could the Decmorats have done this to us? How could the Decmorats have done this to us?”
Don’t forget, anything that the R’s don’t like is because the D’s did it. Anything the R’s messed up is because the D’s did it. Anything the R’s fail in doing is because the D’s caused it. Also, for fun, you can replace “D” with “Pres. Clinton” in the above paragraph. It’s ammounts to the same thing: the party of “personal responsibility” refuses to take personal responsibility for anything they do or cause.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:47 amGo John. Now impeach the bastards!
January 12th, 2006 at 10:47 amMORE NEWS
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• Watch: Police chase 7-year-old truck driver | Read
• Israel: Woe unto Pat Robertson
• Sources: Nearby tank had air for miners |
• U.S. finds California-Mexico tunnel
Why isn’t Zawahiri in prison? Or dead? Why can’t you answer this, Tetra King?
January 12th, 2006 at 10:49 amTetris got caught by mommy. tetris is grounded from using the computer. Tetris King cannot answer.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:52 amJack Murtha is a Hero… he must be wearing a cape under his suit.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:52 am#3
In answer to your question: Why did the Bush government give up on catching the terrorists?
Because bush is the biggest terrorist of them all.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:54 amthey say that Jack’s a bad Murtha (shut yo mouth!)
talkin’ ’bout Jack!
January 12th, 2006 at 10:55 amCopied from GI Special at http://militaryproject.org (bookmark it)
I sometimes wonder, what would I do if a Foreign Government tried to invade the U.S. and impose their system of Government upon us???
What would you do???
Would you be willing to sacrifice your life to repel this invader???
Moreover, would you fight with whatever weaponry you had at your disposal to kill this invader???
Finally, would you sit back and accept his “COLLATERAL DAMAGE” and invasion, and allow him to give you what he deems is a better way for you and your people to live???
If you choose to fight to the death with this invader, do you think it would be justified to be labeled a TERRORIST, OR FREEDOM FIGHTER??? ENEMY COMBATANT OR MURDEROUS THUGS???
If this invader dropped Bombs upon your innocent Women and Children by the TENS OF THOUSANDS in order to impose his will, do you think that would be acceptable “COLLATERAL DAMAGE”????????
January 12th, 2006 at 10:56 am#23 – I don’t think he needs a hidden identity. He;s doing a great job of questioning the boy-king, also known as Pres. Bush.
By the bye, I will always respect the office of President even if I think the person holding it is a half-witted pawn of special interests and a lackey for corporate interests over the individual citizen. I will always refer to him as Pres. Bush. People who just call him ‘Bush’, just like the people who called Pres. Clinton ‘Clinton’, have disgraced the office of President by their slander.
January 12th, 2006 at 10:58 amI like it Murtha. I like it a lot. Nothing makes the neocons duck and cover quicker than a healthy dose of truth. I like the fact that Murtha isn’t afraid to call a spade a spade. He doesn’t pull punches and speaks plainly enough that anyone can follow his logic. I wish there were more people like Murtha holding leadership positions in all political parties.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:03 amNo More War, murkas nuklear submarines would level China in less than four hours. That new dam on the Yellow River would be dust. Besides, the last thing China wants is a war with the US. They know they’re toast if they do.
Don’t underestimate the war-making capabilities of murka.
Murtha is right all the way, it is time to get out of Iraq.
George Bush is just too embarassed to admit he was wrong when he said ‘Mission Accomplished.’
The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well-meaning but without understanding. Louis D Brandeis
January 12th, 2006 at 11:04 amHow does “President Douchebag” grab you? I’m sorry, but when someone urinates all over the constitution and gets thousands of our own killed on the basis of lies (not to mention tens of thousands of civilians), then he quickly loses my support. Pres. Clinton may have been a slickster, but I still held some respect for the office during his time (and I’m not even a Democrat). But what’s happened over the past give years is simply mega-tragic.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:04 amI challenge everyone in the entire world to NOT use that Four letter word(F.R.E.E.) For just ONE Day.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:06 amTry it. (Its not Easy)
Tetra King knows that he can’t answer the questions. Notice that anytime someone provides a very logical question, that the trolls dissapear? They must contact the DOD to find out what they should say now. Like the Borg, if they are disconnected from Bushes brain they are just a walking piece of flesh.
Poor trolls, maybe someday our scientists can find a way to disconnect that wire and allow them to have a normal life. Oh wait, Bush does not believe in science and therefore they would be in this canatonic state forever.
Sorry trolls, sucks to be you!
January 12th, 2006 at 11:10 am#30 – I understand your sentiments. I felt that Pres. Clinton was disengenious in his arguments about whether he slept with “that woman”. If only he had known that (ala Pres. Bush) he could have said that “when I was irresponsible, I was irresponsible” and that would have been the end of it.
I may refer to Pres. Bush as the “boy-king” or the “post turtle” or “lying liar”, but I will not just call him “Bush”. He was selected President by the Supreme Court in 2000, and he was elected (or Diebold selected him) in 2004. While I think he’s a miserable failure, and his lies and obfuscations have lost military lives, he still is President.
That’s something that I have yet to hear one single Republican say out loud. In my opinion, it makes their arguments less-than-credible when they claim that Pres. Clinton reduced the respect of the office of President. When they spit on the title when a D is in office, it carries over into when an R is in office. It can’t only work one-way.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:11 amRon , and everyone else that dosnt get it,
George Bush is USING That Four letter Word(F.R.E.E.)
To Wage His WAR.
You dont get it?
January 12th, 2006 at 11:13 amEverytime Pres. Bush Talks, Listen , I,ll bet that four letter word comes out of his mouth every single time he has a speech.
(F.r.e.e) Is being USED To WAGE WAR.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:13 am#32 – It boils down to the subject. Trolls are great at framing straw-man arguments, but when you push for a simple answer, then they either attack the question, attack the questioner, change the subject, or fade away.
Troll standard operating procedure: When the going gets tough, cowards cut and run. (Like how I used their words against them there?)
January 12th, 2006 at 11:14 amAwesome use of words Democrat Soldier.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:15 amExcellent, Democrat Soldier.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:21 amDon’t worry, NMW, I do get it. FREEdumb is the opiate for the masses.
Hearts and minds, flowers, regime change, liberty yada yada yada. All designed to seperate you from you and yours.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:21 amTetra King is NeD.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:22 amCalling Murtha fat – that a way to get ‘em, cowboy. You sure taught us.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:23 amMurtha is still in the fight for what – Betraying his country?
Comment by Tetra King #2
Trichomonas King,
Murtha’s war credentials and service to this country (unlike the cowardly deserters and deferment pros you worship) are impeccable…
You right wing inbred sewage rats get slimier and more stupid everyday…
You’re an inbred group of mongrels who should be sterilized and deported…
Thank God murtha “finally” sees the light…
Time to leave iraq to the Iraqis, and bring the troops and our tax dollars home!
January 12th, 2006 at 11:46 amthank god that was a short troll run.
Lately I’ve been liking dkos alot more because they boot the idiots. Mind you, they boot too many folks. They aren’t much better than redstate in that reguard. But lately, we’ve had way to many morons comin’ over here to piss on the liberals. No fun at all.
Murtha’s doing a GREAT job. Give ‘em hell guy.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:50 amIt would be nice if we had conservatives coming here to engage in real debate, rather than the trolling and baiting we see.
January 12th, 2006 at 11:55 amMurtha, Sheehan, and Tice are all true patriots.
January 12th, 2006 at 12:01 pm“In a nation of sheep, one brave man forms a majority.” — Edward Abbey
January 12th, 2006 at 12:12 pmdem solider the day I call the man behind the desk president is when he is elected fairly in a free election, until then eff this guy, Bush, running the country into the ground
January 12th, 2006 at 12:13 pm1 – No More War: thanks for the link; excellent article. Makes me want to demand that our government cease and desist all activities NOW, and focus on impeachment proceedings against this administration. No more appointments, nominations, or other executive activities by any person appointed by this pseudo president.
January 12th, 2006 at 12:48 pmBut lately, we’ve had way to many morons comin’ over here to piss on the liberals. No fun at all.
Comment by kindness #43
Come on kindness,
Where’s your fighting spirit?
The ONLY reason I come on this forum is to do battle with inbred Bushites…
Although admittedly it’s not much fun kicking the as*es of one legged imbeciles in an a*s kicking contest, (intellectually speaking of course)…
No one should be booted from any forum ever, after all this IS America…
If we, (inbreds included ’til the purge), can’t exercise our first amendment rights here then where can we?
January 12th, 2006 at 1:02 pmIt would be nice if we had conservatives coming here to engage in real debate, rather than the trolling and baiting we see.
Comment by cynical ex-hippie #44
Yo cynical,
What the he*l would they use for REAL ammunition (debating points), the truth?
January 12th, 2006 at 1:04 pmDemocratic Soldier, I have more respect for you and your service than for the people in our administration. I will show respect where it is earned and due and in this case it is neither. The Bush bunch are nothing more than thieves, liers and distroyers of our country, constitution and the world for power and money. The only good thing about this discussion is that we are still able to have it, if this bunch has their way that may not alway’s be the case…Blessings
January 12th, 2006 at 1:18 pm